Black Economist Thomas Sowell: Herman Cain ‘One of Us’ More Than Obama
- Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:21am by
Billy Hallowell
- Print »
- Email »
Economist Thomas Sowell made some curious comments in an interview with Fox News’ Neil Cavuto. While the two began their dialogue by discussing the NBA lockout and Bryant Gumbel’s recent comment likening league Commissioner David Stern to a “plantation overseer,” the conversation quickly turned to race as an issue in the 2012 presidential campaign.
When Cavuto pointed out that some African American leaders have said that Herman Cain isn’t really one of them, Sowell responded:
“My gosh, he is certainly one of us far more so than Barack Obama. Raised in Hawaii and going to a private school, an expensive private school.”
It is the “one of us” portion of this statement that is worth examining. Obama’s background, which did, indeed, include private schools and an upbringing in Hawaii, was one of privilege. In his adult life, Herman Cain, too, has seen his fair share of success.
But Sowell’s comments cause one to wonder why good schools and an upbringing in Hawaii would disqualify Obama from being considered as black as Cain. What, exactly, is Sowell saying here? Would being a true African American then require that someone live in the lower 48 and attend less prestigious schools?
While Sowell may have had no ill intention in his words, they certainly raise questions about what he believes “one of us” truly means. Now, it is quite possible that his comments were rooted more in his own upbringing and in the high unemployment rate (16 percent for African Americans) and economic depression that, unfortunately, impacts African Americans more profoundly.
If speaking strictly about these characteristics, then certainly Obama‘s background isn’t characteristic of what others in the black community are faced with. Going on to explain his own personal background, Sowell said:
“We didn’t have a lot of frills like electricity and central heating and hot running water.” [...]
“I was born into a family that didn’t have any education beyond elementary school, but they were people who wanted me to have education.”
Clearly, Sowell‘s upbringing was much tougher than Obama’s. Sowell’s comments are similar to statements that Cain recently made in an interview with Neal Boortz. Speaking about Obama, he said:
“He’s never been a part of the black experience in America. I can talk about that. I can talk about what it really meant to be po’ before I was poor. He can’t. So what I’m saying is I can talk about every issue two levels deep without a teleprompter.”
Watch these comments, below:
Again — there was likely no ill intention in Sowell’s statements, but they certainly deserve analysis.
(H/T: Real Clear Politics)
Popular Stories
MSNBC Host Snaps in Heated Segment: ‘What in the World Is Riskier Than Being a Poor Person in America?’ 694 Comments
Does Misstated Marathon Claim Prove Paul Ryan Is Dishonest? (POLL) 662 Comments
‘Jumah at the DNC’ Speaker: ‘Muslims Visited America Prior to Columbus’ & ‘It Was a Muslim’ Who Guided Him to the ‘New World’ 525 Comments
Obama: RNC Like Watching ‘Black-and-White TV’ Because Romney ‘Did Not Offer a Single New Idea’ 364 Comments
Paper Details Obama Admin’s Alleged Secret Note Sent to Iran: If Israel Attacks, We Won’t Get Involved 351 Comments
Faith
This Is the Creationists‘ Response to Scientist Bill Nye’s Viral Pro-Evolution Video Claiming They Harm Children 234 Comments- Pakistani Muslim Cleric Accused of Framing Disabled Christian Girl in Koran-Burning Case Read More
- ‘Made Up Religion’: TV Historian Enrages Muslims, Receives Threats After Producing UK Documentary Questioning Islam’s Beginnings 245 Comments
Meet the Controversial German Imam Accused of Brutally Beating His Wife & Pushing Sharia Law Read More
‘Self-Proclaimed Messiah’ & Unification Church Leader the Rev. Sun Myung Moon Has Died — Here’s His Life Story Read More
Business
President Obama Issues Major ‘Green Energy’ Executive Order Read More- Germany’s Upcoming Court Ruling Will be Huge for the EU Read More
Ford Looks to Beat Toyota for Best-Selling Car in 2012 With This Model 147 Comments
Bernanke & QE3: Here’s What You Need to Know Read More- ‘Extortion’: Why Did the Labor Department ‘Drop the Hammer’ on Oregon Farmers? 300 Comments
Technology
- This Is the Creationists‘ Response to Scientist Bill Nye’s Viral Pro-Evolution Video Claiming They Harm Children 234 Comments
‘TaserDrone’: Hackers Weaponize Quadcopter With Actual ‘Shocking’ Technology Read More
Ever Heard of the Wild ‘Burning Man’ Festival in the Middle of the Nev. Desert? Here’s Your Primer Read More
Stanford Develops Technology ‘Better Than Steroids’ for Athlete Recovery Read More
Have You Pretended to Know What ‘the Cloud’ Is? You’re Not Alone Read More
Submitting your tip... please wait!
Comments (204)
wakeup1
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:17amWho knows… It wouldnt surprise me that cain is just another LAYER of the progressive plan… Given what ive seen from repub traitors i wouldnt doubt it. But I guess time tells all..
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:22amMy Paulie detector is beeping.
Report Post »MUSE_FENDERTAMA
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:36amPlease, don’t invent ideas that progressives have this plan to put up straw men in the republican party. That’s a step further than paranoia.
Report Post »Sure, they might be like Stephen Lerner, saying divide the people, crush the banks & get people on board, etc., but they are not creating manchurian candidates.
We need to be the rational and intelligent side. Do your homework and don’t submit to hopeless political whims.
V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:47amYou can put the race card down now, Herman.
You’ve overplayed your hand.
Let’s talk about your flawed tax plan and your association with the Federal Reserve!
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »mad_hatter
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:09amNo, anyone that turns AFL-CIO’s Trumka into a tail spin has to be someone I like. Trumka last night was caught insulting Cain and the union leader, my union leader, is the true laughing stock: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/oct/trumka_cain_laughable.html
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:19amBarack Obama isn’t one of us in ANY respect. We should all know this by now:
Report Post »http://markamerica.com/2011/10/21/barack-obama-mission-accomplished/
ltb
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:22amExcept for Newt, who can’t seem to get organized, Herman Cain is the only GOP candidate I like. Herman needs to do a better job of explaining his 999 plan, though. If his plan replaces all current taxes (i.e., excise, ad valorem, gas, FICA, income, etc., etc., etc.) and replaces them with three taxes, it’s a great plan. If, however, he is going to keep ANY of the current taxes and add the sales tax on top of them, it’s a lousy plan.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:31am“Not one us us”? In the last election black voters said otherwise, and they will in the next one too.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:42amLTB,
Report Post »I share your admiration of and frustration with Cain. I have heard him give satisfactory, and relatively simple, explanations of why the 9% sales tax won’t make people pay more, because of the reduction on the retail price by the elimination of so much taxation on the wholesale end, but he never articulated that at the last debate. He sounded like he had no explanation when I know he does because I have heard him give it.
Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:12pm@qpwillie
Report Post »It’s pretty predictable, isn’t it? :-)
Imprimis
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 1:41pm“I feel your pain” … I too have become very synical of EVERYONE…how does one not? This article and the way words are “twisted” is part of the reason. I understand what T. Sowell was saying why is there a question? One side says he is not part of the black experience because he does not have anything personal to do at all w/the black experience here in this country. Cain, on the other hand, is someone part of our landscape for generations and each generation did what all families should aspire to and that is making it better for the next. His family did that and Cain climbed even higher. Because of his comfort in his own skin and his easy, accepting way w/people he has become a candidate for the Presidency…wow… that’s quite a ways to come in such a “racist” country.
If we follow the money, we know that, in general, we are not racists. If we can all be called racists because of the few both black and white, then logically we can all be called murderers, etc. because of the few psychos amongst us.
In any case Thomas Sowell was absolutely correct; Herman Cain is more like the real and portrayed black in this country than Obama could ever be. Want to play the race card? Well, he’s half white and raised by white people … “just sayin’”.
Report Post »oneshiner
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 2:17pmObama is NOT one of us! Sowell completely misses the fact that Obama went to school in Indonesia during very impressionable years. He studied from the Koran, did their 5 daily prayers, and all other things required by Muslims. His first college experience was a scholarship given to an Indonesian student to attend Occidental in Calif.
No, he is NOT one of us. Even tho he left Indonesia around 10 yrs old, I’ve wondered how he could claim a scholarship meant for an Indonesian when he no longer lived there. Duel citizenship? hmm?
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 2:19pmThomas Sowell has always seemed to me like he has his head on straight. I believe he was merely comparing Obama‘s and Cain’s experience to that of the average black citizen in America who did not live in Hawaii or attend private schools. I did not take it that he was saying you can’t be “black” enough if you enjoy those advantages. I think he was merely pointing out that as far as being able to relate to the averge black person, who attends public school and copes with higher than average unemployment, Cain is more likely to relate to that person than Obama, who shared none of their common experiences.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 2:21pm[V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:47am
You can put the race card down now, Herman.
You’ve overplayed your hand.]
How about you put down the lunatic card for a change V-Man. We already know you are crazy. Give it a rest.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 2:25pmA general observation about Ron Paul and his followers. Since most of his followers are absolute lunatics, like V-Man, etc, can we assume that we have something to fear about Ron Paul?
I have studied Ron Paul enough to know that I like him VERY LITTLE. I see very little leadership qualities in him.
1) Supported the trophy mosque.
Report Post »2) Wants to stop supporting Israel.
3) Cried over a terrorist getting killed.
4) Leans towards being an isolationist.
5) Has .01 chance in hell of getting elected.
Vindex.Dogood
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 3:06pmAnother daily Herman Cain stories from the Blaze. They should just go ahead and change their name to the “TheHermann2012.com”. Such journalistic bias. Makes me sick that people don’t see it. Beck should stop complaining about liberal journalism. He’s using the same tactics.
Report Post »Fella
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 3:13pm@KMichaels So really all your study boiled down to was fear and a misunderstanding of actual policy. Just so we are clear.
Its going to be really sad when you clowns put up another flexible ‘say anything to get elected’ candidate that is just going to lose to Obama in the end. Your understanding of the actual trouble this country is in, warrants more study. Keep at it. But try to do your own research and not just listen to the radio talking heads. Because all you are doing is parroting them.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 3:43pm[Fella
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 3:13pm
@KMichaels So really all your study boiled down to was fear and a misunderstanding of actual policy. Just so we are clear.]
Not even remotely. I understood Paul’s policy perfectly. But I also understand that he was too stupid, as a leader, to cover the concerns of the normal American. Case in point, the trophy mosque. The correct solution was to say something like this. Although it may be legal to have a mosque there, it is unwise to continue on with those plans, because most Americans look at this as a slap in the face and a case of total insensitivity. Therefore, I will use my influence to have it built somewhere else.
There you go, still legal, but acknowledges why most Americans are opposing it.
I have similar issues with the other things I listed. Bottom line, Ron Paul was too damn stupid to see what the issues really were, almost sounding identical to Obama himself on some of the issues.
Report Post »Fella
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 5:03pm“Therefore, I will use my influence to have it built somewhere else.”
I see, so you are for abandoning the constitution as long as it supports your world view. lol wow man. If you can’t see the double edge sword that this idea presents, then good luck. And your going to say that Ron Paul sounds like Obama with a straight face. Yeah, I’m starting to see who the stupid one is, and it’s not Ron Paul.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 6:04pm[Fella
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 5:03pm
“Therefore, I will use my influence to have it built somewhere else.”
I see, so you are for abandoning the constitution as long as it supports your world view.]
Boy, you Paulites really are rather stupid. Go back and re-read what I said. My solution was totally legal, according to the constitution. Which part of this were you too dumb to understand. It is not against the constitution to verbalize the fact that the legal builing of something is insensitve and or unwise. It is called the bulley pulpit. Totally legal, according to the constitutution. Also referred to as free speech.
You nitwit.
Report Post »Fella
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 6:26pmActually you’re another pathetic excuse for a conservative. You talk a big game about the constitution and then completely ignore it as it suits you. The name calling and whining is a pretty good indication of who won this argument. But carry on you living in your fear induced hysteria.
Herp derp “Bailouts are a win win.” – Herman Cain 2008
Report Post »DanBritt
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:08pmAll of these Ron Paul “people” are becoming very irritating. Close to as irritating as liberal Democrats!
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 12:54amkmichaels
I already know that you’re a neocon troll sent to make a childish response to my every comment, as if discrediting me affects Ron Paul’s campaign whatsoever, or as if you can shut me up. Not gonna happen.
You’re desperate and pathetic.
Ron Paul 2012.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 1:00amWhat idiots like kmichaels doesn’t understand is that no amount of forum bullying, ad hominem attacks, or childish retorts is going to stay supporters‘ hands from writing in Ron Paul’s name if he doesn’t get the nomination.
You will HAVE your 4 more years of Barry the Tyrant after all, you warmongering neocon trash. We‘ll make sure of it by writing in Ron Paul’s name.
Then you can celebrate 4 more years of Liberal Obama continuing Neocon Bush’s policies of preemptive warfare under the guise of humanitarian aid, while the country goes belly up financially and socially.
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 1:08amThat’s just too bad, Neocons.
Ron Paul supporters aren’t going away on this site. I know you would love to shout down anyone who dissents from toeing your pathetic line, but this is an online forum.
You have no such power.
No telling Ron Paul supporters they aren’t welcome here…and telling them to get their signs outta here…nope.
You just have to sit there and whine. Want some cheese with that?
Herman Cain kisses Ron Paul’s butt on the Federal Reserve issue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4vxB2ocXKp0#t=174s
Ron Paul 2012
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 5:34amSowell (millionaire) supports Cain (999)~~ whatta shocker.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 12:33pmObama has never been a part of the Black community. Not EVER!
Report Post »sayangku
Posted on October 23, 2011 at 9:52am@ oneshiner
Report Post »Give the Indonesians a break! Some of the best friends I have are Muslims. Kind and decent folks who like the rest of us are just trying to make it in this world. If you want to BLAME someone for BO look at WHO gave him his current JOB not some far away land that is an easy target.
Buck Shane
Posted on October 23, 2011 at 1:29pmI‘ve read Sowell’s columns and one of his books. I would vote for him for President.
Report Post »americanmama
Posted on October 24, 2011 at 4:56pmSeriously?? Have you listened to this man? If he’s being phony, he deserves an oscar.
Report Post »No. We cannot trust in any man, but if this guy isn’t for real, we might as well stop listening to everyone because no one could ever appear more genuine than Herman Cain.
BurntHills
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:10amblack lesbian “angry comic” Wanda Sykes said it best at that First dinner, if obama screws it up they can blame his WHITE HALF.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:17amI almost believed Wanda. His grandparents were communists, but so was his father. So both side of his families were communists.
Report Post »ADNIL
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:37amBO the teflon man. Nothing bad ever sticks.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:41amMy wife taught school for 33 years and observed the real world. Half blood blacks were called zebra’s by white and African American kids! These half breeds were also excluded from all activites by both groups. My wife had to be their teacher and their friends.Herman Cain did not have this problem.
Report Post »123456beatriz
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:09amAGAIN! Please Tell Glenn that the TV and Radio by Roku has problems. And is Just when Glenn is talking important issues about the communists and the morons in Wall Street. Yesterday the beginning of tv show was stopped 3 times. And today in radio the same.
Report Post »Please this is sabotage from Soros’ team of communists. Please maybe a good computer experts can help to prevent the sabotage. Maybe Israel can help, they know a lot about this. Please! try to defend the country. I know beacause I already lived in communist environment I know how those moron work!PLEASE! If I am in NY I will help, but in NC I can not!.please!
wakeup1
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:14ami know plus sometimes when I post in here …i get a “blue screen” widows shutdown..has been the 4th one…everytime I post a really good post ….soros’s hackers are trying to shut it down here.
Report Post »dopie joe
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:06amThis happens on my computer as well.Yesterdays show on GBTV about home schooling played with out a hitch.Most of my problem is the HD.I have to click on the HD and turn it off every time.
Report Post »Mohawk1773
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 6:35pmStay strong my friend and please share your story with as many as possible. We are watching.
God Bless America.
Peace.
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:05amActually, the real story is Herman is a real American. The Manchurian candidate Obama is not.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:32amMy first thought also .. CAIN IS A REAL AMERICAN … and a real American success story .. coming up from hard working parents he is a self made man…. unlike BO .. the little boy who was indoctrinated and never grew up!
TEA!
Report Post »V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:55amHerman Cain isn’t any more “real” than any other person in America. Don’t start falling into the trap of presenting Herman Cain as some superman from the Federal Reserve, because it WILL blow up in your face.
Herman Cain is a “real” Federal Reserve agent.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 2:29pm[V-MAN MACE
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:55am
Herman Cain isn’t any more “real” than any other person in America. Don’t start falling into the trap of presenting Herman Cain as some superman from the Federal Reserve, because it WILL blow up in your face.
Herman Cain is a “real” Federal Reserve agent.]
THIS JUST IN. V-Man is still CRAZY. Seriously, when you look as nutty as you do, one wants to avoid Ron Paul even further.
Report Post »Mohawk1773
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 6:49pm@V-man — For being such a “FED insider” Mr. Cain sure isn’t pulling the “FED insider” cash, now is he? For being such a “FED insider” Mr. Cain’s “FED insider” campaign sure lacks slickness, now doesn’t it? For being such a “FED insider” Mr. Cain’s “FED insider” desire to return to the gold standard doesn’t add up, now does it?
You are preaching to the choir, find a forum we‘re people don’t get it and spread your message.
We got some altering and abolishing to do.
Report Post »vieteravet
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 1:23amV-Man, it’s guys like you that will get Obamanumnuts re-elected. Ron Paul is never going to get the nomination.
Report Post »UrsaMajor
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 5:38amRight on, V! Because we all know that there is only ONE super-human being running for President who is above any criticism whatsover and is so perfect that he wasn’t born, he was an immaculate conception… Our Lord and Master Ron Paul!
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:03amThis is what I see…An American in Mr. Cain…Obama, not so much…Obama has turned out to be the “worst” person for the black community…let alone America.
Report Post »Jim in Houston
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:41amHe has plenty of company so he won’t be lonely in that position – Jessie Jackass, Al Not So Sharp Ton, Mad Maxine Waters, Jessie Jackass Jr., Sheila Jackass Lee, Cornel West to name just a few.
Report Post »ADNIL
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:42amI agree. It is an American issue, not one of color. I also feel it is unfortunate that BO has turned out to be a discredit to his race and has done so much to re-divide americans.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 2:31pmObama turns out to be half African and zero percent American. A very bad combo.
Report Post »ares338
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:01amOh my God…….Sowell didn’t have any ulterior motive for saying “one of us”! It was a response to a question and he just doesn’t like Obama. Certainly not anywhere near as bad as Holders “Americans are cowards”!
Report Post »ImJusSayin
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:00amBlack Economist Thomas Sowell: Herman Cain ‘One of Us’ More Than Obama
Exactly He is “One of US” an American.Herman was born here and built his wealth on his own, not born in Kenya and got his wealth by milking the system as a Community Organizer.
Report Post »Howyinthehills
Posted on October 22, 2011 at 12:53amAnyone who thinks Sowell is racist should read his book “Markets and minorities.“ Milton Friedman said of this book ” A breath of fresh air on a topic that, more than most others, is generally the subject of unreasoning passion, emotion and predjudice…. I have no doubt that this slim volume will become a classic in the literature of the economic and social problems of minorities.“ Sowell also authored another book ”The Economics and Politics of Race.” A lucid and reasoned work on the effects of social custom , race and environment on human development.
Report Post »mtorres20
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:55amObama African Father is not part of the Black American Slave Past. His father came, procreated, then when he saw legal issues for multiple wives abandon his American Wife and son like an old shoe. Does anyone think the acorn falls too far from the Tree. Obama has discarded political allies like Rev Wright, Farraken, Gaddafi, Muburak like an old shoe when it became inconvient to have them as friends.
Report Post »marthasusan40
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:08amWell said…
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:54amOne of who? I think they call that identity politics. Is that OK now or not? I’m losing track.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:25amBurnt Hills . . . You can’t be a little bit black, not in this country. I refer you to the one-drop rule which codified the classification of black or not.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:27amIt’s something that just IS and always has been. It’s something that a mature party tries to rise above than pander to. E Pluribus Unam. Out of Many One. Out of many ethnic groups we are one people. True American politics accepts, embraces and reinforces that reality. False old world politics works against it and Balkanizes us. Cain is American in his heart. Obama is old world, African and European in HIS heart.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:42amObama tells black Americans that he can feel their pain & knows their issues, because he has experienced the same thing. He has not. Obama is a liar. He comes from a privileged (not quite silver spoon) background.
Report Post »Cain is taking the issue away from Obama. Typically, Republicans get 5 to 11% of the black vote. If we get 12% or more, the Democrat Party is doomed (& all their stupid policies).
your sensei
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:44amIsleofJordan . . .You speak of what is in their hearts. I’m not sure you can profess to know.
Jeremiah 17:9
“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
Let not your point be smothered by overstatement.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:27amSenseless, you can achieve a practical knowledge of a man’s heart by paying attention to what constantly flows out of his mouth. By their fruits you shall know them. This is not a final or eternal judgment. It is a practical one that tells us where their hearts are right now.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:26pmIsle of Jordan . . . you can gain practical knowledge of a man’s heart by what constantly flows out of his mouth.
Not really.
Matt 7:16. The word “fruit” used here is Strong’s Number 2590, which means “work, act, deed” [Strong's Greek & Hebrew Dictionary]
This is, in fact, a refutation of the role a man’s word plays in knowing his heart. I recommend studying and knowing the Word before you further cheapen it to make unlettered political claims.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 2:08pmSenseless, you know as little of human nature as you do of the Word. A man’s chosen declarations are also deeds, just as a vow is a deed. They are words chosen to be spoken. Actions do speak louder than words, but when one’s actions are consistent with his words then you can indeed judge his words to be a reflection of his soul.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 2:37pm[your sensei
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 12:26pm
Isle of Jordan . . . you can gain practical knowledge of a man’s heart by what constantly flows out of his mouth.
Not really.
Matt 7:16. The word “fruit” used here is Strong’s Number 2590, which means “work, act, deed” [Strong's Greek & Hebrew Dictionary]
This is, in fact, a refutation of the role a man’s word plays in knowing his heart. I recommend studying and knowing the Word before you further cheapen it to make unlettered political claims.]
I am with ISLESFORDIAN on this issue. Your words are part of your fruit, just as much as your physical deeds.
Matthew 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:46pmKMichaels . . . Join Isle if you like, but you do so out of emotion and not scholarship.
Report Post »Carol Ingian
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:52am“One of us” is referring to coming from humble beginnings, having a family that was not well off. Their families did however value education, and saw that as a key to bettering their situation. Hard work and knowledge paid off for both of these men.
Report Post »your sensei
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:59amSo, he’s talking about Obama and Cain? Because that describes both of them.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:00amBingo.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:06amobama was placed in the WH thru the media manipulation of the ignorant democrat and black masses by george soros,. obama’s wealthy white BANKER & OIL COMPANY EXECUTIVE grandparents placed him in every elite school and university he was in after he was brought to America from indonesia when he was 11.
Report Post »calling a spade a spade, not only is obama not 100% AMERICAN (like Mr Cain IS) obama is half african black, he is a mulatto. obama is America’s first mulatto President.
BurntHills
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:14amobama’s wealthy white American communist grandparents were not ”humble beginnings”. there was money there. a LOT of money. neither one of them scrubbed wealthy white people’s toilets or chauffered wealthy white people around.
Report Post »stop trying to play obama as an “American” because his wealthy white grandparents were pure communist democrats and his spoiled white teenaged communist mother went to bed with the darkest african bigamaist she could find in college to strike back at the white boys she was in school with who wouldn’t date a ratfaced white girl named STANLEY. .
BurntHills
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:17amMr Cain would become America’s FIRST Genuine 100% AMERICAN BLACK President, with 100% AMERICAN BLACK History and 100% AMERICAN BLACK Parents and Family.
obama can claim none of it.
Report Post »ADNIL
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:49amCain could return dignity and prosperity to the black race, the presidency, and the country. All things that BO has squandered.
Report Post »IowaWoman
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:07amObama did not come from humble beginnings, Please! he went to private schools, never wanted for anything. He was never hungry, he never went without anything. His mother was single for a short time, big deal. She then dumped him on her parents, that had more then enough money to raise him. Has it ever been explained why she abandoned her son? She and her new husband had good jobs at the time, doesn’t seem that money is the reason.
Report Post »rosegrower
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 4:11pmThe only reason Obama’s beginnings were “humble” was because his mother was a profligate narcissist who cared not one whit how her life choices affected her child. She abandoned Obama so that he was raised by “typical white” grandma, then schlepped him to Indonesia (where he was called the “fat n**gger kid” by his schoolmates), all the while doing her thing.
Report Post »toomuchgovt
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:48amAs a Sowell Fan, and a Cavuto fan, I must say the question was loaded and Sowell was commenting on being from a poor black family with slave roots. Just as someone may comment on being from a holocaust survivor family. I am not comparing the two but there are events in history that tie people together. Some people see an opportunity to overcome the tragic events and learn from them and teach their children. As Booker T. Washington Said (Paraphrasing), “is slavery was the price freedom so be it”. Other see the event as a way to take advantage of the people that event happened to, using it as a crutch, to keep people down as victims. It is up to the families to chose their path.
Report Post »weneedrubio
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:46amObama has led an extremely pampered life. One that has also been fed with anti-American propaganda that has molded his thinking. Together with the most liberal legal education you can get he has become what black people should hate the most, a lying, highly liberal lawyer who sees our constitution and morality as a commodity for sale. He is the epitome of the type of people who the black community has been voting for for my entire life who are the same people that are killing the black’s chances. Talk about voting against you own self interest, they have been doing it for decades
Report Post »Watcher1952
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:46amListen to all the comments from some of these people……Sowell.“one of us” Eric Holder…“my people” Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton….and yes Barrack Hussein Obama…..if you haven’t seen or heard the racisim yet…you will by the time Nov 2012 gets here. People like Herman Cain are a pleasure to be around….he see’s Americans…..and wants the best for all American if they are willing to work hard and stop looking for a hand out……
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:41amSowell is pointing to the black identity as being more ethnic and tribal than merely racial. While black liberals make it ideological so that if you don‘t come to the same conclusions as they do then you aren’t authentically black, making their identity own of LOYALTY, Sowell is saying that black identity is one of shred experiences. This has always been one of the most important facets in any ethnic identity. They are a people who have experienced the same things, and struggled against the same hardships. At the very least, they are descended from those who HAVE shared those experiences, like the people of Isreal were descended from those who came out of Egypt and were led by God in the desert.
A common history is critically important to enthic identity. Obama does not share, either in his experience or in that of any of his ancestors, the experiences that was common to nearly all blacks in America. He is at best an adopted black, a man of mixed heritage, none of which are black American, who has been accepted by the black community as one of theirs yet without ever experiencing what they have. He is like King George I of England, a man neither born in England nor to English parents and who didn’t even speak English but who was chosen to be king over England because there was no other candidate. George III was actually the first authentically English king of the Hanoverian line.
Report Post »wtc101
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:53amWith all due repect…Herman Cain IS 100% Black. Stick that in your pipe Obama and smoke it!
From…A Son-of-A-Bitch, Bible Reading, Racist, Radical, Revolutionary, Right Wing, Gun Toting Conservative and BROWNS Fan! I suppose that would be a double racist?
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:20amMy condolences on your being a Browns fan, but you were born that way, surely, and can’t help it.
Go Steelers. :-)
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 1:03pmWTC101 – at least you finally are using a good quarterback
OMG
Report Post »True American66
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:39amI’m fairly sure that what Mr. Sowell was trying to express was that Mr. Cain is much more experienced in the overall lifestyle and economic backround of the MAJORITY of African-Americans. If we look at the statistics, the MAJORITY of African-Americans were NOT raised in Hawaii nor did they attend private schools. Hence, Mr. Cain can relate to African-Americans on a real level and not from some Ivy-League, idealogical, dogmatic high-ground.
Report Post »BrandyWilson
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:49amThomas Sowell is 80 and knows what he says and means it when he says it….I agree 100% with the gentleman…Herman is the real deal!
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 3:50pmI agree. The message of what he said is that Herman Cain is GENUINE — and a REAL American, not a Communist POSER like Obama who does not even have the legal right to occupy the house he is presently squatting in. Never mind where the Great Eard One was born–the Constitution decrees that not only the candidate, but his PARENTS must be natural-born citizens. Was OBAMA’S father a natural-born American? No, he was a Kenyan Communist. Ergo, Obama’s presidency is ILLEGAL, because he does not meet the Constitutionally defined legal requirements to hold the office. The founding father’s were wise. That provision of the Consitution was INTENDED to keep some foreign-raised “citizen of the world” who could give a crap less about THIS country from being elected President. We can now see why they put that provision into the Constitution in the first place, now that we HAVE a foreign-born “citizen of the world” who could give a crap less about THIS country in the White House.
Report Post »AzCowboy
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:38amI’m a redneck (proud) I like Herman Cain. Not because he’s black, because he’s not career politian.
Report Post »Fight for America
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:37amI‘ve always been a follower of Sowell’s.
And as to the commnet – “Herman Cain ‘One of Us’ More Than Obama……What is that supposed to mean ? I don’t get it.” read the whole piece again and try harder.
Report Post »brooksjk
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:37am“One has to wonder, how many people, self-proclaimed Christians, many of whom we see in church with us every week, never really even made a conscious choice to accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior. How many people inherited their faith, have maintained it, and adhere to it publicly, but have never actually asked Jesus to be lord of their lives? How many of us are unwittingly destined to hear Christ tell us, “I never knew you; depart from Me.”
My new book, The Four Pillars of the Kingdom, is set to be released soon. It is, not only a response to some of the metaphysical arguments of the so-called New Atheists, but also a call to believers to take their faith serious in a very real way. You can find a few excerpts from the work at my website, The Immaculate Conservative, here:
http://bit.ly/TheFourPillars
Please read and let me know what you think!
Thanks,
Report Post »Joe Brooks
DanWesson455
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:37amWell he is more like Black America than O’Bozo is. I‘d say his politics are more like most American’s than O‘Bozo’s are to. 1/2 Breed is a Bozo without a heritage.
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:36amI think he is talking about the black experience of the older black generation-not the kids today but the 50ish group who grew up poor without welfare, and were determined to make it in this country on their own hard work. I’ve met many of the 50 and up group and their mind set is completely different than the young black people who grew up with “help” from the goverment. The more the government has done, the less iniative most of the young have. Don’t get me wrong, there are young black people growing up who have what it takes to get to the top, (and not just in sports) who are only looking to compete and succede, and they are not going to “buy” Obama a second time. Some have expressed they got fooled once, but won’t get fooled again. Good for them.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:36amWhy do you have to call him “Black Economist”?
Report Post »rockstone
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:00amExactly. Stop it people. Stop with the “I don’t care that he is black… blah blah blah…..”. We will never get past this until WE stop first.
Cain is an American. Sowell is an American.
Stop it!
Report Post »geo01
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:36am.
Report Post »This economist is RIGHT ON!!!
.
But now he will be called an Oreo . . .
.
ALL people of color should be WILLING TO SPEAK THE WAY THEY SEE IT.
.
This country is NOT NEARLY AS RACIST as the POLITICIANS WOULD MAKE YOU BELIEVE.
.
RACISM IS MERELY A FORM OF CAMPAIGNING to a specific ethnic group at any given time.
.
SpankDaMonkey
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:33am.
Report Post »I’m sorry to tell you Thomas, you will now have to wear the label “Uncle Tom” from now on……..
NCBookworm
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:33amCan we stop with the race crap! Maybe he just meant that, because of his privileged background, Obama can’t understand the average, hard working American. Maybe it wasn’t about his race at all. Get over it already.
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:23amHerman Cain ‘One of Us’ More Than Obama……What is that supposed to mean ? I don’t get it..
Report Post »Obama Snake Oil Co
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:34amI’ll keep it simple, he is a Black American…not an elitist Afro American. Hope that helps.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:41amI think he means Cain identifies more with Americans and is more concerned with our interests than our Marxist president.Obama is at heart an anti-colonialist just like his father and is more concerned with correcting all the ills America has caused the world,according to the twisted ideology he subscribes to.
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:45amI was thinking the same thing. Is that us being “we the people” or is that us meaning “black”? I’m tired of black Americans dividing themselves off into a seperate elite group. Then suggesting the rest of the country owes them something. What happened to “One nation, under God”? I can’t even participate in certain events, watch certain movies, or listen to a type of music without feeling excluded.
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 9:49am@Obama Snake Oil Co.. That’s funny, you tried to explain it like you know what you’re talking about, but you don’t know.. You obviously didn’t get the quote… My point was that he is a person, nothing more, nothing less An American.. Not a black American .. I don‘t go around saying I’m a white American and I am more of a white American than you Because I lived down in the dumps with the “real” white Americans.. Now, if you want to go around putting color of people in classes that’s your problem.. BTW it didn’t help..
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 10:45amObama Snake Oil Co
Report Post »I think you have explained it well.
Islesfordian
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 11:36amSowell sees himself as a black American where “black” refers to descent from blacks in America, both free and slave and thus sharing a common experience of being a discriminated minority class.
As conservative he recognizes that his idenity as an American is superior to his identity as a black, thus he avoids racial politics. But looking beyond his black heritage doesn’t mean that he forgets he has one, and Conservatism doesn’t demand that he does, any more than a Texan has to forget that he is a Texan and not a Californian, or a Catholic that he is Catholic and not Presbyterian.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on October 21, 2011 at 8:58pm“Sowell is right. Obama’s father was a foreigner and his mother was white. That’s just a tad different from most African Americans. I see no controversy in the comment.”
You don‘t think gonzo’s comment was on target? I feel sorry for you. You can’t fathom logic
Report Post »