‘Blatantly Homophobic’: Furor Erupts After Mormon-Owned TV Station Refuses to Air New NBC Show About a Gay Couple
- Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:25am by
Billy Hallowell
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A furor is erupting over a Utah television station’s refusal to air an upcoming NBC comedy called “The New Normal.” The station, KSL-TV, is owned and operated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. The program focuses upon a single mother who is planning to be a surrogate for a homosexual couple. The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), among others, has been voicing its anger with the decision to ban the show.
“These days, families come in all forms — single dads, double moms, sperm donors, egg donors, one-night-stand donors… It’s 2012 and anything goes,” an official description of “The New Normal” reads. Information about the pilot adds more: “With successful careers and a committed, loving partnership, Bryan and David are missing only one thing: a baby. Could Goldie be just the surrogate mother they’re searching for?”
"The New Normal" (Photo Credit: NBC)
After viewing the first episode, which will premiere nationally on September 11, CEO of Bonneville International, the parent company of KSL-TV, said that the company deems the show “inappropriate” for its viewers (One Million Moms, a conservative group, has also targeted the show).
“After viewing the pilot episode of ‘The New Normal,’ we have made the decision to keep it off our fall schedule,” Simpson said in an interview with Deseret News. ”For our brand, this program simply feels inappropriate on several dimensions, especially during family viewing time.”
Watch the program’s trailer, below:
GLAAD president Herndon Graddick isn’t pleased with the decision, calling KSL and its leaders “deeply out of touch…with the rest of the country.” In addition to dismissing the station’s charge that the show is contrary to family values, Graddick also invited KSL to sit down with the gay rights organization to talk its issues out.
“We invite Jeff Simpson to sit down with GLAAD and local LGBT families,” Graddick said in a statement. “We know that if he would, he would see that not only are our families normal, but by citing ‘crude and rude’ content and refusing to affirm LGBT families, KSL and Mr. Simpson are sending a dangerous message to Utah. They should make that right.”
Actress Ellen Barkin, who plays the lead role in “The New Normal” is also targeting KSL, calling the station’s decision “blatantly homophobic.” On Twitter, she also pleaded with LDS to “change,” writing (spelling kept in tact) “There r Mormons who struggle with their church’s stance on gay rights..among other issues.Chruch proved capable of change ie, polygamy. Hope?”
Over the weekend, she also wrote, “Shame on u @kslcom not airing @NBCTheNewNormal So L&O SVU (rape & child murder) is ok? But loving gay couple having a baby is inappropriate?”
So far, Bonneville International isn’t bending. This isn’t the first time KSL-TV has prevented a show from airing. Last year, the short-lived progrm “The Playboy Club” was also held back from airing on the station.
(H/T: Hollywood Reporter)
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Comments (607)
TheGrtDcptn
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:49am“It’s 2012 and anything goes,” an official description of “The New Normal” reads.
‘anything goes’…?!…Yes, it is 2012, but this is nothing more than propaganda and deception, sodomites are NOT ‘the new normal’…history speaks for itself. If this program airs, WE the people have 3 choices…block the stations that carry such shows, turn the channel, or shut the TV off…
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Report Post »The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:03pmSomebody said it on the blaze once, and it bears repeating,
Denial of evil is impossible, and only results in the reversal of evil’s definition.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:15pmWango – correction. That’s how we got Obama.
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:17pmNo, them pulling the show because it disagrees with their beliefs is not homophobic, it’s simply an expression of their beliefs. The reaction, however, is blatantly theophobic. Time we start calling a spade a spade, eh?
Report Post »Belwraith
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:21pmI’m confused….doesn‘t the left promote abortion on the premise that women aren’t baby machines…yet here they are, promoting a woman as a baby machine….in the words of the kid in Big, “I don’t get it”.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:28pmThat’s how we got WANGO!!!!!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:29pmWHACKO…I see in that in that “busy” retirement you’ve bleated about on other posts (that you use as an excuse not to answer questions) that you still have lots of time for your drive-by insult hurling in leiu of a post of any value to anyone. Is that “interesting and provactive” enough for you to start explaining why Obama’s added $6trillion to the debt when he said he’d halve it by the end of his first term?
Report Post »walnutportconservative
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:35pmThe bible also says something about man never growing weary of creating new ways to sin. What’s Next?
Report Post »quiet little lamb
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:32pmshow is gonna bomb anyway. i saw a full episode and there aren’t enough gays to make it profitable
Report Post »Wayner
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:39pmI’m not Mormon but I am “BLATENLY HOMOPHOBIC”… In other words, I depise them.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:42pmYou will notice that the MSM is very quick to attack mormons, but will say nothing about an equal stance from the muslims. It is a double standard.
Side note – Wango Tano came out of the closet on a different thread last week. I figured he would be upset about his fellow sodomites not getting air time.
Report Post »seanscythe
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:46pmI find it scarry how the named the show, “The New Normal”. Seems like subliminal messaging to me, by calling a show that is anything but “Normal” normal it put the thought in your head that this is what other consider to be normal. Which is a lie seeing as how most Americans don’t agree with this at all.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:46pmTheGrtDcptn
Great comments – thanks
Report Post »mmmmarilyn
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:49pmMormons are MOONIES in suits.
Report Post »This will cost Romney even more votes -
so it works for me.
Locked
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:01pmPrivate company, they can choose what and what not to host. End of the story.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:03pmseanscythe
Hollywood has a history of using names like this. They also like to use names that make light of Bible tearms and names.
Will and Grace is an example. In the Bible Will is mans choice, and Grace is the means of salvation through faith. In the popular show, Will acted gay, and Grace actled like a slut.
Crossing Jordan is another example of making light of a Bible term.
Report Post »sillyfreshness
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:09pmThe New Normal…..according to PC Bolsheviks. NBC is just a propaganda machine. It would fit right in airing shows in Sweden or Denmark. NBC wants to make the US just like Europe…..ripe for conquest by Muslims who see European/American men running around with “man purses” and speedos. They know Western culture is weak and can’t hold much longer which is why they want to conquer us. Well that and the fact that we have troops over in their countries trying to spread political correctness on them, they don’t like it.
Report Post »I Fly Low
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:13pmNotice how they hijack words. “gay” and “new normal”. I thought phobic referred to fear. I don’t know of many men afraidr fear a gueer !!
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:24pmmmmmarilyn
You are quick to talk about Mormons, what are your thoughts on Muslims?
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:32pm@ Kevintampa
Report Post »Good word: “theophobic”
It should be used more.
peace maker
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:44pmThey are trying to shove the “new Norm” down our throats. Propoganda is alive and well. Thanks KSL for taking a stand.
Report Post »QuincySmith
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:58pmSean; ~~~ It is not subliminal – it is blatant!
marilyn; ~~~ When the R’s (Romney and Ryan) win, will you move to another country?
Report Post »Leader1776
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:40pm@seanscythe
I suggest you read Marketing of Evil. It will describe the ingenious plan that this TV program fits into. That plan should actually be a Harvard Business School case. Brilliantly conceived ….. including the name change.
I suggest you start by, in every instance, return to calling homosexuals by the proper term ….. homosexual. Lesbians are either bi- or homosexuals. Putting lipstick on a pig …….. its still a pig ……. metaphorically speaking. They can call themselves ice cream cones, I don’t care. But they are still homosexuals. This has nothing to do with hate or ‘phobia’. I doubt few of us fear homosexuals.
I’m waiting for the restorative justice crowd to manipulate the dialogue so that one day we are demonized for not allowing Charles Manson out of prison. Too funny.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:15pmI am surprised that KSL is not airing the show. KSL has become almost anti-mormon and this is very evident on their website which always posts any anti-mormon AP or Reuters stories and will not allow posts critical of those stories. The church should fire the KSL website administrators and editors.
Report Post »jodi0626
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 5:33pmYEAH!!! It is about time that more companies start taking a stance on this controversy! It is pushing the next generation to believe that it is ok and it is NOT! God made man and woman for each other. If it was okay for them to be together than why didn’t God give them a way to procreate because I there is no other species created that does not have a way to reproduce themselves. They are the only ones that cannot! So it is not Normal and I am so glad that someone is taking a stance!
Report Post »damnedifwedont
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 5:38pmWell said….‘The rest of the country’ does NOT agree with homosexuality.
Report Post »Claudius
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 5:44pmLiving in Utah, I can tell you that if KSL ran a show like that, it would lose 80% or more of its audience. The whole thing is a publicity stunt for gays – there was zero chance KSL would even consider it.
Report Post »aragona
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 5:50pmI don’t blame them for not wanting to air this program. I found the racist Calista Gingrich comments to be crude and insulting. I found that more offensive than the surrogate/homosexual male couple relationship the show is based on. How I feel, however, doesn’t really matter. It’s their TV station and they can air what they want. This is America afterall where we still have First Amendment freedoms, no matter how dwindling.
Report Post »WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:01pmWhat a disgusting abomination of a show, the name alone is blasphemy…. It won’t be long till the fire and brimstone rain down on this country for this garbage.
Report Post »WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:05pmThey need to stop using the word homophobic, it has nothing to do with fear but with the fact that homosexuality is an abomination, it is disgusting, and perverse, evil and WRONG!!!…. The lefties just love using words that defy the actual truth!
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:58pmBarkin has a bias here to get the show aired so she can get paid.
Report Post »Wango
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:54pmRANGERPEE . . . MSM attacks on Mormons? Haven’t seen any of those. And neither have you. Tell me, why does Mitt refuse to say the word Mormon?
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:03pmMMMMARILYN, same sign in name as Marilyn Manson,
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6TFW1F6oY0
tglaittli
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:03pmAs a constituent of KSL, I fully support their decision. I do not consider myself to be an ultra-conservative, nor am I homophobic. However, I do recognize propaganda when I see it. The attempt of the liberal media to brand this extremely small minority of “family lifestyles” as “normal” is completely ridiculous. I’m sure that everyone involved with the tv show is very talented and I wish them the best of luck. However, the message that they are giving is a message that doesn’t sell in all markets. KSL doesn‘t believe that it’s constituency will watch it enough to make a profit from the advertisement sales.
If you really want to watch it, I’m sure you can find it on the web.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:06pmDo you suppose Mormon is more or less a slang term used by outsiders taken from the title of the Book Of Mormon. They most often refer to themselves as the Church of Latter Day Saints.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:54pmwango tango
Dude, what planet are you on?
got to google, and type “MSM attack mormon”.
enlighten yourself, there are enough article to keep your self busy for a while.
Report Post »lwillis59
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:31pmwango… you will hear him say(which he did just last week) that he belongs to “The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints” because that is the name of the Church, Stop trying to make something out of nothing..
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges12
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:37am> “Blatantly Homophobic”
Fear ONLY God and His judgment on evil-doers.
> “Furor Erupts”
A hand full of Liberals having a hissy-fit.
> “Mormon-Owned TV Station Refuses to Air”
Bravo! Are you listening, Glenn?
> “New NBC Show About a Gay Couple”
There ain’t no such-a-thing — it’s a Homosexual ABOMINATION.
And the judgment (yes, there is JUDGMENT)?
“If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.” -Lev 20:13, Holy Bible
Because it’s THAT SERIOUS a crime.
Report Post »sillyfreshness
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:22amA long time ago, before PC Bolshevism, gays were considered mentally ill. Now in 2012, you are the one who is mentally ill if you don’t think gays are the greatest thing since sliced bread. You are the one who suffers from the mental illness called “homophobia.” You need to be locked up, not the (real mentally ill) gay person. No, they are perfectly normal and you are the odd ball. That’s PC Bolshevism.
Report Post »QuincySmith
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:54amRJJinGadsden;
“They most often refer to themselves as the Church of Latter Day Saints.” ~~~~ Small correction the correct name is: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:18amThe 45 Goals of Communism: https://onceuponatimeinthewest1.wordpress.com/45-goals-of-communism/
See #26.
Report Post »stage9
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:24am“deeply out of touch…with the rest of the country.”
SINCE WHEN IS 1.8% of the population IN TOUCH with the rest of the country??? That’s the percentage of of the population that identifies as “homosexual”. That means that 98.2% of the population does NOT IDENTIFY WITH HOMOSEXUALITY!
Who’s out of touch??
Furthermore, in EVERY SINGLE STATE where a ballot measure has set out to define marriage as between a man and a woman, people have voted to NOT REDEFINE MARRIAGE…EVERY TIME!
Again, who’s out of touch???
DON’T BELIEVE THE HOMOSEXUAL COMMUNITY! They are manipulative liars!
http://www.massresistance.org/
Report Post »Wango
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:26amRANGERPEE . . . I did what you suggested. The only thing I could find was an article about Newt Gingrich attacking Mitt’s Mormonism. So sorry. Perhaps you should ask Michelle Malkin for help. Her speciality is making up stuff. Hey, did you know there are homosexuals in the military? (Google it!) Isn’t that great? So brave and patriotic. Be sure to thank them for their service.
Report Post »ImprovementEra
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:09amKSL hasn’t had Saturday Night Live on for many years – at least 12 or 15. It is aired on another network in their broadcast area. I’m sure this will be, too.
In the article, it says that the LDS church is out of touch with America. Why does a church have to change with the fads and immoralities of society? Seems to me that a church should be a bastion of what is moral, not changing everytime someone comes up with another definition of normal. These days, it is hard to even find a church that openly condemns sodomy. I’m glad that they have some courage and strong definitions of what is moral.
Report Post »QuincySmith
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:28pmwango;
Seems you need remedial google classes!
Report Post »Oldtimer2
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:22pmIt’s good to know that at least one TV station in the country still has a moral compass that works. The New Normal?,,,,,no, just the same old sin (yes , I said sin), dressed up and trotted out for another go around, in hopes that they can drag a few more over to their way of thinking. The goal of the entertainment media especially in the last 30 years, has been to blur the lines between right and wrong, good and evil, redefine the family unit, exclude God from the public view.and marginalize Christian ethics and faith and push the progressive agenda. Shows like Friends and this New Normal, glorify perversion, Reality shows nudge us toward loss of privacy and personal dignity (think Survivor, Sister Wives, Housewives, face book, Nielson surveys,Google tracking etc), Murphy Brown, Two and a Half Men, undermine the core family unit. LA Law and any of the SVU series push a liberal,progressive political agenda.(anti 2nd amendment rights) Most of the Discovery Channel stuff is anti God, humanism and pro global warming, Mother Earth garbage. Major companies like J,C.Penny and Starbucks have jumped on the side of perversion to make a buck. Companies like Quiksilver , Levi, Microsoft, Coke etc, have jumped on the global warming bandwagon with their 1% for the planet programs giving a portion of their profits to a group whose end goal is to end capitalism. (how stupid can we get!) People really need to wake up and use the brains they were given!!
Report Post »AntinomianismMeansAntiamericanism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:29pmIf pay-per-view TV existed, no one would watch this show. The more they drive up the price of cable the fewer people will order it and the more people will start listening to talk radio and getting their news from internet outlets. The left is causing their own demise. America need to hold to their faith and embrace virtue and wholesomeness. I would watch KSL specifically because it refuses to air this show. Bravo!!!
Report Post »Euna
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:54pmMeg Amen, good response. Let those people do their thing, but don‘t try and cram it on us that don’t go for it. We have as much right to our beliefs as those on the opposite side have as theirs.
Report Post »RWCT
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:55pmGLAAD is SAD! Poor,LOST fools. Romans 1:19 to 1:32 tells of their state. Their destruction, and ETERNAL separation, from our Creator, is guaranteed, UNLESS– they repent. Sadly, the Media portrays PERVERSION, as an alternative, if not worse,LYING re being DNA determined. Maybe 1% are preverted in their lifestyles,in THIS way, and if one would view T.V. programs, it is made to APPEAR that a much larger % are living this life, and therefore it should be no longer just condoned but accepted.
Report Post »Believe GOD, or believe satan. THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN!. One stands with truth, and RIGHTEOUS living, OR, one does satans’ will.
I will pray for these LOST souls!
Maranatha
klnassie
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:21pmThis new Socialist attitude has lead every leftist to think that they have a right to dictate to EVERYONE. Since when is the television programing dictated by a few or even the Government. Just because you can swear and show a little skin on TV now, does not mean we have to have programing that is against our beliefs! God Forgive US!!
Report Post »Treaty
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:49amNBC just can’t get anything right LOL. Joining the ranks of JC Penney is not exactly a resume enhancer.
Report Post »Godfather.1
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:16pm“On Twitter, she also pleaded with LDS to ‘change,’ writing (spelling kept in tact) . . .” (Spelling kept INTACT).
So, by attempting to point out spelling errors in TWITTER, TheBlaze makes a spelling error of its own. This site never ceases to entertain.
Report Post »Oneirishman
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:34pm@godfather.1
Report Post »Just put some hemorrhoid cream on already, crabass.
rangerp
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:45pmTreaty
James Cash Penney (founder of JC Penney) was a christian. His father was a Baptist preacher.
He would be sick to know what his company is doing.
Report Post »kadster01
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:20pmSo glad I quit watching TV…
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:52pmYears ago, the JC Penny in our local mall closed. A few years later they wanted to return to find that their old location had been completely rebuilt and expanded into a multiplex theater. They then moved to the center front of the mall building a huge wing for their return. Right after opening this recession hit, and now that they have come out of the closet, nobody wants to shop there. I can see a huge cavernous hole looming in the mall soon.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 5:11pmMy family no longer shops at JC Penny, Home Depot, or buys coffee from Starbucks. If you side with the sodomites, you don’t get my money.
Report Post »buttpatriot
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:21pmRANGERP
is that all sodomites or just homosexual sodomites?
Report Post »Wango
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:58pmRANGERPEE . . . Speaking for the dead again, eh? Why stop there? I suggest you baptize them into the Mormon faith. And if their family demands you stop, just promise you will stop but then just keep on doing it. It’s what the good Mormons do. Just ask Elie Wiesenthal. (He’s not a sodomite, so you can google him without feeling all icky and confused inside.)
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:10pmRANGERP, I hear you sir. I make a mean pot of coffee from German grind whenever we can make it to Redstone Arsenal about once a month. The Germans used to think that I was crazy drinking it black at Herb’s in Hohenfels on my first tour there. Damn, he made a great pfeffer steak at night though.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:57pmWango Tango
I see you have as much love for the false mormon faith as I do. So what are your thoughts on the false Muslim faith? The two run a pretty tight parallel, do you agree?
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:05pmthe libs have been smacked with reality again.
the companies that came out in support for gay marriage are not doing so hot. Companies like JC Penny, Home Depot, and others are starting the fell the pain when decent Christian folks stop shopping there.
On the other hand, Chick Fil A is seeing some pretty hefty boosts,
Every state (38 of them, including California) that put gay marriage to the vote of the people, found out that the people do not support it.
The sodomites are an abomination. They destroy nations, they molest children, they pass on diseases, and they are an evil people.
Report Post »Tankertony
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:21pmBehold the bearded marxist speaks. You know the beard gives one wisdom and an unparalleled level of morality and goodness and righteousness.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:45pmRanger;
“The two run a pretty tight parallel, do you agree?”
In so far as the context of what you mean, I don’t. But keep Wango in his place. In that you are doing a good deed.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:56amDarren
Handling wango is easy. he does not debate, he just throws out a one line talking point and runs. It is easy to come back with facts, history, stats that prove him wrong, and make him look like the fool he is.
like most libs, he is all over the mormon faith. Muslims can have the same believe as the mormons, and he will not say a peep. Libs are all chummy with muslims.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:45amracist, anti semestic and homophobic that cult is and we don’t want a preacher of something like that for president, its very dangerous like what happened in Germany or the USSR.
randy
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:48amDude! Use some punctuation and a spell checker please!
Report Post »edcoil
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:49amWe also don’t was gays on tv shown as a new normal.
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:50amHooRah. Good for the Mormons. I am a born-again, follower of Jesus Christ. I WOULD NOT EITHER.
This is STILL a free country and if they own that station, IT IS THEIR RIGHT. I will watch their station any day, any time.
REMEMBER, when the left begins to attack the Mormons, like they did the Catholics, then YOUR RELIGION WILL BE NEXT. Wait, watch, and see.
Sometimes I wonder if people WHO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS, ARE REALLY CHRISTIANS AT ALL, BUT IN NAME ONLY. They will be the very 1st ones to bow to the Beast.
Report Post »Laymen
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:55am@Individualism – “like what happened in Germany or the USSR.”, what – are you in delusionalville?
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:01pmits also the fact if you mix a bigot with big goverment, it can lead to persecution of certain groups.
Report Post »RedNeckMormon
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:02pmHave you been to chick fil a today to harass a drive through worker yet ???
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:03pmYou do realize the Nazi’s in germany were mostly ****, and WWII started as a battle against the sodomy laws in Germany?
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:08pmGays are not born gay & they are recruiting grade schoolers.
We Are Not Born Gay, Swedish Twin study Shows
In general, twin studies show that when one male identical twin is gay-identified, the other will be gay-identified one time in nine, or only 11% of the time.
http://current.com/community/89099881_we-are-not-born-gay-sweedish-twin-study-shows.htm
http://www.canadiantimes.ca/CMS/index.php/icv/858-confusing-grade-three-children-with-six-gender-teaching-is-wrong
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:11pmIndividualism
Here is a nice picture of Hitler meeting with the grand Mufti of Jerusalem. You might not have seen it because you are kind of callow.
http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=52184
Just like to point out that the left loves to meet with Islamicists & says nothing to see here. So does it seem to be with you.
Report Post »kalli
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:16pmWALKABOUT: Gays are not born gay & they are recruiting grade schoolers.
Absolutely true, and we have owebama to thank for that. Many people have not heard how he is silently forcing schools (Kindergarten-12) to make his radical agenda the curriculum taught. And, it includes teaching our kids how to be gay. He is dumbing down our youth.
Report Post »grimmster
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:17pm@Randy.
Report Post »Thats encinom, and he cant help himself.He has also posted as steelhead and a few others on here today.he obviouslt doesnt self medicate, and seems to be waiting on mommy to come down to the basement to administer his lithium,or crack,or whatevr his drug of the day is……
Centurian
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:22pmGet your facts straight.
32 states have had ballot initiatives where traditional marriage was upheld.
And in those states where gay marriage is approved, it has been done against the wishes of the people by having a judge intervene.
Most Gays only know how to sue and spew hate against “breeders”. I say most because there are gays who also don’t care about this issue and are mad at the gays who are only making matters worse by ticking people off (I know, because I have spoken to some that I know).
As far as anti-Semitism goes, it has nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with ignorance.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:26pmhey individualism,
Report Post »Is that title the antonym of you as a person…because your post paints as much. It seems you correct title should be collectivism as you attack mormons for now following your belief structure.
See individualism isn‘t accepting and approving life style dumba55 it’s allowing other to live their lives and practice their beliefs as they see fit…. It requires no affirmation or acceptance. Much like freedom of speech requires us to accept what we find offensive not as fact but as one person oppinion. You sound like one of those PC ******** that are destroying the first amendment apparently one all side speech,press and religion…
TO EACH HIS OWN learn that or quit lying to yourself and accept the fact you’re a fascist
Lord_Frostwind
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:26pm“Talk like Yoda I do, yes.”
Whatever happened to the idea of “I can disagree with you and we can be resepectful to eachother?” Oh no, now it’s “if you don’t agree with me you are (insert noun here)ist or (insert noun here)phobic.”
Twits like you have completely demeaned what was once a bad thing and turned it to cheap political slander. You created a whole generation of people who no longer fear those titles, and in some cases wear them with pride (“Warmonger” being the one I chose to wear on my sleeve.)
The most intolerant people in the world are those who are preaching about tolerance, you don’t agree with them then you are an enemy that must be destroyed. I would have been happy to coexist with people like this in the past, but since they have so demeaned my faith, and the people I care about, I am more than happy to become their enemy.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:28pmIndividualism
its also the fact if you mix a bigot with big government, it can lead to persecution of certain groups.
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Gays are doing the persecuting. They do so under the guise of science & education. that is why they invented Queer & Lesbian studies. Once they get their ‘credentials’ they start changing the education establishment & calling everyone & their mother a homophobe if they object.
Confusing Grade Three Children with Six Gender Teaching is Wrong
“The Newly proposed, Ontario curriculum, which teaches six genders (male, female, transgendered, transsexual, two-spirited and inter-sexed) is being taught by teaches in Toronto schools and is confusing to our children”
Report Post »http://www.canadiantimes.ca/CMS/index.php/icv/858-confusing-grade-three-children-with-six-gender-teaching-is-wrong
johnjamison
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:54pmYou mean like the bigot we have in the DOJ who perscutes states for ebforcing federal laws as breaking the law and ignore actual states breaking federals laws simply because it fit his agenda.
Report Post »Or the bbigot in the DOJ subboring fraudulents voting practices and attacking states trying make sure that their votes are all casted by legal voters….
SH*T LIKE THAT
Wilum
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:06pmHmmmmmmmmmm! You talkin’ about JFK?
Report Post »mecanic
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 5:28pm@randy…… he can’t, he’s an IDIOT.
Report Post »timpclimber
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:22pmThank you for calling me and my family names, my grand son ,son and my self spent years in the military protecting your right to be a bigot. rommney is the beat thing to happen to the POTUS in a long time.
Report Post »I_Love_Chick_Fil_A
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:08pm@Individualism
Those of us who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints believe in being very tolerant and kind to all people. You on the other hand are a hateful and mean-spirited person to say such things about my church and its members. The “Mormon” church has only 14 million members but our church provides more emergency relief to stricken areas worldwide than ANY other church. Our active members do not need government welfare becaues we take care of those in need and we believe very strongly in self-reliance. We have no paid clergy and volunteer hundreds of millions of hours of charitible service annually. We are also very nice, normal, funny, and interesting people. It just so happens that we LDS members don’t like shows like this gay promo so KSL knows that very few people in their market will watch it. They would get more viewers with a rerun of the Office or something. They know that they will get serious flak from their viewers with Christian morals if they air the show so they are making a smart business decision and not catering to the (very) small but (overtly) vocal minority.
Report Post »Jim
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 1:37amWe aren’t racist, we accept all races. We aren’t anti-semitic, we are very accepting of the Jewish faith. We aren’t homophobic, we do not accept their lifestyle. Next!
Report Post »dat bee
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 3:29amI find your ignorance exceedingly plain. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is not in any way racist or do they hold Jewish people in anything but respect and high esteem. As for Homophobic…that is utterly ridiculous. They, like most Christians, do not support that lifestyle…but care for them as children of God. I feel people have the right to choose how they live, I reserve the right to not have it shoved in my face.
Report Post »Disgusted_in_CT
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:44amGLAAD president Herndon Graddick isn’t pleased with the decision, calling KSL and its leaders “deeply out of touch…with the rest of the country.”
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No frigging way.
You are out of touch.
Take your lifestyle and shove it up your A&&, it is a choice.
I am so sick and tired of these homos trying to shove this cr@p down our throats.
This reminds me of the show that tried to show muslims were simply misunderstood people who really loved everyone else and never did anything against people of other faiths.
If you tell a lie often enough it soon becomes the truth.
Being gay is not a choice, you are born this way.
The islam faith is a peaceful religion.
Sound familar?
Report Post »PilgrimStuckInBizarroWorld
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:59amI agree totally with your posts. Thank you for saying what I was thinking.
Report Post »TEA
Capt_Gregg
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:20pmBingo!!! Kudos to the LDS church for its stand in refusing to air such a program on its own station. They should not be expected to do so, any more than one would expect the Vatican to air a program on the joys of having an abortion. As a 68 year old life-long conservative who loves comedy, I will NOT watch so much as a single episode of this tasteless trash that is being thrust upon us as “mainstream.”
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:01pmI was stunned to see the ads for the show during the Olympics. Good for KSL. Looks like they are just as “out of touch” as me.
Report Post »Centurian
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:18pmGLAAD, like many other groups, are based not on tolerance, but on hate.
With advocates, such as Dan Savage, the right and conservatives have to look hard for hate speech from their side; and when we do find it, we voice our disapproval against it.
The left’s response? They embrace their hatemongers… how sad and disgusting..
Report Post »shoulda coulda woulda
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:24pmI think you need to back down off the stridentcy, but you basically have it right. Obviously, this station in Utah is not the rest of the country and shouldn’t be expected to act like the rest of the country. If they don’t want to air show that their customers want they will know very quickly.
Report Post »jcldwl
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:44amWho is even still watching network TV. Hollywood just doesn’t get it. They are the ones out of touch with the real main stream America. I don‘t believe there is a sitcom on TV anymore that isn’t pushing the homosexual (satan influenced) lifestyle. I may be wrong because I quit watching network anything about a year ago but at that time the ones I did see were all pushing it. Just one of the many reasons I have stopped watching television as well as no longer going to Hollywood made movies.
Report Post »gragums
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:49pmWe dropped our cable service a few years ago. Now if I watch cable TV, it shocks the heck out of me!
Report Post »Spqr1
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:34pmIf “Hollywood” was out of touch with “mainstream” America, then they wouldn’t be making uncountable millions of dollars. That’s the evidence that your archaic, discriminatory, retrograde views are dying the slow death they deserve.
Report Post »TeresaJ
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:28pmI stopped watching TV over 10 years ago, about the same time family shows left the airwaves and “reality TV” took over.
@Spqr1
Report Post »Actually, TV viewing has been in decline.
http://www.clarkhoward.com/news/clark-howard/technology/tv-viewership-decline/nMjTT/
joex51
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:43amI am not going to say whether being gay is a sin or some crap that the people who put the bible together ( it was assembled 300-400 years after Christ died, by a roman ruler trying to get rid of pagan religions)…
Report Post »But the name “The NEW Normal” Being gay is anything but “normal” now I am looking at this from a purely Scientific view… IF an animal in nature is completely gay (does homosexual describe animals that only want to mate members of the same sex?) then how does it reproduce? it doesn’t and its genes die off. If you are gay because you choose to be be or because you can’t help it then fine thats OK, but genetically there is something wrong with you it is not your fault,but scientifically you were not programmed to be Gay you were programmed to reproduce and multiply and to do that you have to have Sex with a member of the Opposite Sex…. More than anything the Name ****** me off, I hope it flops like the rest of the stupid shows on NBC…. they should stick to sports that about all the get right .. some of the time atleast
Calm Voice of Reason
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:10pm@Joe: A couple of points for you. There IS an objective definition for “normal” and it is illustrated by what is termed the “normal distribution curve” (http://bit.ly/cGjdJ9). It is easy to see that, while being less frequent in the population, an outlier may still represent the “normal” spectrum of a society. In fact, in almost anything that can be counted, you will find extremes at one side and also at the other, all of them part of “normal” distribution.
Additionally, there is not evolutionary principle that prohibits homosexuality. Evolutionary forces act upon the GENE and not upon the INDIVIDUAL. It is perfectly reasonable to suggest that a biological factor for homosexuality exists. Often, the evolutionary stable state requires that some members of a population sacrifice fecundity in favor of other benefits for the group. For a better understanding of these things, I would recommend “The Selfish Gene” by R. Dawkins.
Report Post »DimmuBorgir
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:22pmYeah I mean, Darwin was gay
Report Post »normalmom
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:30pmYou are in the right direction. It is not normal and they would quickly die off under the theory of evolution it is survival of the fittest, well if they can‘t reproduce they won’t survive.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:42pmThe Calming Voice to Insinuate Falsehoods
If Homosexuality is genetic, then we would expect to see near to a 100% of where one twin is homosexual that the other would be also. Instead we see 11% which is close to zero.
Also, I have seen homosexual friendly poster argue that homosexuality is similar to Tay-Sachs disease, sickle cell anemia, cystic fibrosis & other genetic conditions. In the cases Tay-Sachs, sickle cell anemia & cystic fibrosis we try to treat those disease. We treat all genetic disease except homosexuality if indeed it is genetic.
The second line of defense for the homosexual LOBBY is to say it is epigenetic. As one researcher pointed, epigenetic problems are easier to correct than genetic ones. He likened it to the difference to writing in pencil to writing in ink. The 11% of twins who became gay might have been influenced by epigentic or hormonal factors. Or it may have been childhood environment. What we know is that the gay LOBBY does not want it to be treated at all because they want the numbers.
We Are Not Born Gay, Swedish Twin study Shows
http://current.com/community/89099881_we-are-not-born-gay-sweedish-twin-study-shows.htm
P.S. Your post name makes me sick. You remind me of Sauron from L.O.R. a.k.a. Annatar the Lord of Gifts. You post a picture of a wise man circa 1870 of the Victorian Age (Darwin’s time) & pick the sage like name. You are nothing but a homosexual lobbyist.
You are to intellectual discourse what ninjas
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:51pmJOEX51….the new testament was written within the lifetimes of some of the people described in it.
Report Post »Luke was Paul’s companion in his ministry. Mark was Peter’s physician and had to write the accounts because Peter was illiterate. No…Constantine did not write all four Gospels and the book of acts, contrary to anything you’ve been told by the angry secular progressive crowd.
SquidVetOhio
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:57pm“( it was assembled 300-400 years after Christ died, by a roman ruler trying to get rid of pagan religions)…”
There is a saying about keeping silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it. You might want to heed that advice since you are so unspeakably ignorant on the compilation of the Bible. It’s just embarrassing. The ONLY thing that is remotely close to true in that sentence is the timeline.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:59pmCALM VOICE….there is absolutely NO genetic pointer to homosexuality. NONE.
Report Post »Dr Charles Socarides has noted that in the 1970′s the APA (American Psychiatric Assoc) removed homosexuality from it’s list of psychologica disorders not because clinical research demanded it, but because social lobby groups demanded it..throwing away decades of work in the process.
By all means tell me what’s “normal” or acceptable about homosexuals making up over 61% new cases of HIV in this country each year while the comprise less than 2% of the population? They are an over-represenation of at least 44%. Tell me what’s “normal” or acceptable about that?
Furthermore, strict homosexuality as it appears in the human species doe not occur in nature. What appears to be homosexual behaviour is actually shows of dominance and dispute resolution. The animals go back to mating with the other sex when their instinct to mate and couple takes over.
Even those penguins homosexuals like to tout can be made to mate with females. Strict homosexuality is a psychological aberration only found in the human species.
AvengerK
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:12pmcorrection CALMVOICEOFPROPAGANDA…it is an over-representation of more than 2750%. yeah..that sounds very “normal” and “acceptable” right?
Report Post »Is it dawning on your champ that the practices of homosexuals are actually a detriment to the human species?
I love the “one-night stand donors…anything goes” quip from the imbecilic mouthpiece defending this what will be a very shortlived TV series. How severed from the reality of raising healthy, happy children does one have to be to reduce the creation of a family to “donors” and casual sex? The left is truly mad. They’ll say anything to defend their delusions.
Centurian
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:13pm@Joe,
Please get your information correct.
Not long after Jesus Christ’s death, the Apostles found themselves battle against “certain individuals” of the faith who were trying to alter the message of Christ and inject their own beliefs and perspectives. One such group that would soon catch on were the Gnostics, who believed in completely different version of Christianity.
Finally, in 325 AD, a council of Catholic bishops convened in Nicaea in Bithynia by order of Emporer Constantine I. The main purpose was to determine what writings could be attributed to the main Apostles and which ones had little, if any, historical proof of their authenticity.
Also of note: Emporer Constantine I did not try to get rid of all pagan religions. His passage of the Edict of Milan (along with support from Licinius) in 313, abolished the massive persecution of Christians in all of the Roman Empire. Constantine had a long history of allowing the various cultures to keep their religions and arts. This one one of the main reasons why he was extremely popular with the various peoples and tribes throughout the United Kingdom and the Germanic lands.
As for the rest of your postings, I generally agree, only with one main contention. The LGBT community has always based their conflict with mainstream America with the premise that sexual orientation should not define marriage.
For me and for at least 31 other states who believe marriage is between and man and a woman, it does.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:41pmjoex51
I am not going to say whether being gay is a sin or some crap that the people who put the bible together ( it was assembled 300-400 years after Christ died, by a roman ruler trying to get rid of pagan religions)…
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So you are saying that if the council had not been held in ancient Anatolia, that no council would ever have been held or that correspondence & meetings were not going on at all during that time.
Walkabout
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 5:07pmCalm Voice of Reason
The Calm Voice of Reason believes in shoot & scoot.
The Calm Voice of Reason believes in sniping.
The Calm Voice of Reason believes appearing as an elder statesman of the Victorian era & making pronouncements that are seemingly scientific but are anything but scientific in the way they were reasoned.
Off topic but related
BTW did you know fluoride in water is bad for you? The national Academy of Science (NAS) published a study in 2006 that the levels of fluoride in water were too high. The EPA relented. Someone with the NAS said they are looking into the currently levels of fluoride but as of this date cannot make the case. But they are still looking into it. So for 60 or so years (3 generations) we have been calling people who didn’t want fluoride in their water kooks. It appears that the people pushing fluoride were pushing something unnecessary & harmful. How many people get their water out of taps anymore. Likely as not they filter their water. So why are we putting a potentially harmful chemical in water? Because of the same sort of people who are pushing homosexuality, & global warming say they know what is best. They were wrong about fluoridation of water & s many other things.
BTW Calm Voice of Reason who groomed you, when you were young?
Report Post »WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:38pmHomos are proof that evolution is false!….. The evolutionist say that we evolve to a higher state, there will be no evolution for homos, for they are headed in the wrong direction, they will soon extinct themselves!
Report Post »Calm Voice of Reason
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 8:50pm@AvengerKirk & Walkabout: I don’t mean to “shoot & scoot”, I had to go to work. It is certainly not an established fact that homosexuality is not genetic, we are decades away from understanding what the proteins our DNA codes for actually do in our bodies. One of you cited a twin study, but there have been several. Here are some that support further study on the epigenetic nature of sexuality: (http://abouthomosexuality.com/policy-org-twins.pdf). I honestly don’t think it really matters, I fully support any adult’s right to choose their legal and consensual partners. I don’t know that the AIDS numbers you propose are truly accurate, such things are bound to be embroiled in politics, but even if they are, I don’t believe that they are a direct indication of any problem with the gay lifestyle. Such things tend to have many factors and right off the top of my head I would suppose that high risk behavior tends to follow strong societal pressures to remain hidden. I don’t doubt for a moment that we will begin to see see a dramatic drop in AIDS cases as homosexuality becomes more mainstream. I am really sorry that this part of our culture makes you uncomfortable, but we live in a free society and that requires us to be mature enough to live with things that we don’t necessarily agree with. I am not a force for evil, literal or figuratively, and I make no claims to wisdom greater than I possess.
Report Post »Wango
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:05pmAVENGECAKE . . “strict homosexuality” . . . just like “severely conservative”
Hey quick question – when Paul Ryan was extolling the virtues of stimulus sending back in 2002, was he lying then or is he lying now?
And why do you spend so much time thinking about homosexuals? That’s kind of gay. Let me guess, you’re a Michael Barry hetero – one who hangs out in gay bars. Right?
Report Post »SerikFox
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:17pmCalm Voice Of Reason: There is a lot of evidence to say that you are not born gay. One example mentioned above in a comment was the prevalence of homosexuality with regards to twins. If one twin identifies as gay, then only about 11% of the time does the other one as well. Also there is a much higher prevalence of homosexuality among those whom are abused (physically, sexually, or verbally) or bullied as children then among anyone who was not. I can’t remember the number (I think it was 75% more likely, but don’t quote me on that: it could have just as easily been 25%) exactly, but it was a significant correlation. There is no significant evidence that genetics play any major role in orientation. Also the sudden prevalence of homosexuality indicates that it is influenced more by culture than by genetics. Also, it is highly likely that genetics would normally turn away from homosexuality due to evolution. First, if it were a genetic marker it would be far rarer than it is and it would be more focused along certain ethnic groups/family lines. Second, considering that it has been a death sentence for most of recorded human history to be gay, it is likely that that gene would be very rare. Third, due to the previously short life spans of humans before modern medicine, anyone not actively seeking an opposite sex partner is less likely to have had children. Giving even more reason for any homosexual genetics to be rare.
Report Post »Angel_light
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:43am“The New Normal.”? sorry but that couldn’t be more false.
Report Post »normal(adj)-conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural.
The majority of people on earth are straight. that is the norm. man was built for woman and vice versa. if you want to be other than straight sure that’s fine. I’ve met a few homosexual men and women and they were very nice and down to earth. to be honest I don’t and never will understand what causes that kind attraction but whatever. and i conclude with this: homophobia does not exist, i just don’t agree with it. end of story
Belwraith
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:45pmI use to work in E.R. We had a homosexual who’d come in with an impacted penis…gross…nothing “normal” about it!
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 6:59pmI‘m predicting the show won’t last past season 1. The people will speak out through the ratings, which will by abysmal. If the show does last longer, well I’ve got no objection to NBC creating a money pit.
Report Post »PurrrpleMtnMajesty
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:41amThis was done intentionally.
They made SURE the program was offensive by it’s very title (The NEW NORMAL)
when it was about homosexual relationships.
The Mormans have more guts and show greater strength in living a live devoted to
their Lord than the majority of Christians. I admire them and believe their lifestyle
could set a great example. I’m not condoning the Morman faith as in some very
essential ways, it is off course in my understanding of scripture, HOWEVER, their
lifestyle and the way they live their lives (not polygamy of course, but putting such
strong emphasis on family and CLEAN living) is certainly admirable.
Can you imagine if the (supposedly) 80% of Christians stood up for no more glorification
Report Post »of sin? Hollywood, TV in general, esp, commercials and products would have a whole
LOT of changing to do. We must NOT forget that we, as the BODY of Christ are responsible
for what is happening in our society when we are 80% and sin of all sort is promoted and encouraged
and made to sound like the normal. I don’t think you have a more clear definition of “calling good evil and evil good” than the liberal viewpoint and agenda.
Do I think they should have a RIGHT to be aired…SURE, IF anyone wishes to do so. THERE IS a gay TV channel. Why don’t they take it there?
Again, I’m not saying we take away RIGHTS, but our reaction/endorsement of it is where we are NO BETTER than those who HATE God….something to think about, esp. when we need o
GeorgeWashingtonslept here
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:41amNew Normal? Okay, I will support this when gay people can procreate without the needed opposite sex and or artificial means………………until then these freaks can STFU.
Report Post »Hiswill
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:41amThe station has a target audience. If people want to see gays on TV, there are plenty of shows out there to turn to. Just change the channel.
Report Post »RedNeckMormon
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:40amFunny how the Gay crowd always wanted people to stop bullying them because of their lifestyle choice, they now have become the biggest bullies of all when people don’t jump in line with their beliefs…..shame on you. You live your life, that’s your choice, but please don’t try to shove your lifestyle down on me !!!
Report Post »commoncents5
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:09pmThis is the crust of the whole progressive movement. Shut down all dialogue but their own.
Report Post »TEUFELHUNDENUSMC
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:40amWay to go KSL! Stand up for what you believe! What the gay community stands up to defend their rights and what they believe they are called heroic but when anyone disagrees with them they are “Blatantly Homophobic”. Really getting sick of the double standard.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:01pmYes, it‘s awesome to have Mormons and the government deciding what’s appropriate on TV rather than the market. Three cheers for censorship!!
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:38pm@just I read the article but missed the part about the government censorship,you sure it’s in there?
Report Post »If a private company doesn‘t want to carry a show that’s not a problem,it’s a problem when the government uses censorship though.
riseandshine
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:45pm@Just…It’s their station…they can do what they want….3 cheers for freedom.
Report Post »FreeBeer
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:48pm@justangry …Don’t worry so much. The market will get its say and this trash will end its short time on air just like the other recent Lib trash shows. Remember GCB (Good Christian Bitches). Even the title change didn’t help them. You can’t insult more than half the population in your title and expect success.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:16pmProgSlayer, Yeah, I’m just speaking in general. It’s not a part of the story.
RiseandShine, I’d usually agree, but I thought they said it was an NBC affiliate refusing to show NBC material. Perhaps NBC will have some way of pulling their affiliation, so people who pay the cable bill to watch NBC programming don’t have a middle man between them saying no, that’s not appopriate based on their religion.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:33pmJust….I was speaking generally also. KSL doesn’t air SNL either, but it is still aired on another station in Utah….this won’t hurt NBC.
Report Post »downhillmike
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:54pm@just: Well, each affiliate station has the choice of what shows they want to air. That is the market. Apparently, some stations take seriously the idea that trash is trash and they don’t want to air trash. Most stations take the trash given by NBC. If more stations refused to air this type of trash, NBC wouldn’t be pushing their agenda and trying to force people into the “new normal” that they want to make. If people in Utah decide to watch this trash, they have other means – the internet and cable, which is also the market. I find the groups that force this kind of agenda to be the hateful, bigoted ones in our “new” society. I will vote with my TV and never watch any of this type of trash. Call me names, but my moral values are more in line with “normal” values than yours, and no amount of bullying will make me change them.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:59pm@Riseandshine, Cool man, thx.
@Freebeer, Yeah I imagine the market would kill it quickly. It doesn‘t sound like anything I’d be interested in.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:10pm@Downhillmike, Yeah, Rise set me straight. I’m sure our morals in how we live our lives are quite similar. I just don‘t really care what other people do if they’re not hurting anyone else.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:22pmHi Justangry,
In this case I think some Children might be “hurt” if they start watching shows that promote a life-style like this. Just like the porno mags that have to be covered so Children don’t accidentally see the the photos on the covers when they go into stores.
I vote to protect the Children over a total freedom for “anything goes” for all ages.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:25pmJust….I should‘ve said this won’t impact cable subscribers…I hope it DOES affect NBC’s decisions in the future…I’m with you…the free market baby!….Peace.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:43pm@Monk, I do too, but I see what our kids watch on TV as our responsibility and no one else’s.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:41pmHi Justangry,
I agree. The issue I see is what happens when Children visit a friends house where the parents have an “anything goes” mentality? Sure, you should know the other parents but sometimes the other parents hide what they allow their Children to do when other parents are around. I speak from my own Childhood memories.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:46pm@JUSTANGRY
Always good to see you.
The attempt to tie KSL to Romney was thin, at best.
You’ll notice that KSL did not say NO ONE should watch it, they just felt it was inappropriate for THEIR audience; and I believe they are right. They did not say it was inappropriate for ALL audiences.
The church allows people to do as they please. They teach an ideal and expect you to reach for it, but they recognize that you may choose not to.
I believe Romney will do the same: Teach an american ideal and allow you to pursue it.
Again, I tip my hat to you for recognizing the fact that there is no basis in this article for tying the ‘Mormons’ and KSL with government censorship.
Report Post »KyleD
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:15pm@Just – Sure, you‘re responsible for your children but don’t you think other’s should be responsible for what they are in charge of? If you owned a business and were suddenly told to sell something you disagreed with wouldn’t you want to have the right to say no? Good for this station for standing up for what they believe in, at least somebody is doing it.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 9:45pm@Brother_Ed, Hey man, I didn‘t really catch that they tried to associate this station with Romney but yeah that’s kind of lame. You have much more faith in Romney than I have, but it has nothing to do with his religion.
@Kyle, I had a knee jerk reaction to the story. The station can do what it wants.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 10:06pm@JUSTANGRY
I really only have ‘hope’ in Romney.
I stick to my original premise that the press has done a masterful job painting conservatives as mean spirited and uncaring. Add to that the fact that the conservatives themselves weren’t enacting conservative policies, and you wonder why people don’t trust us.
If we can enact a few of these policies, show the people they work, then they will be more apt to try more.
I think Romney has a better chance of winning. I also think we need to keep the pressure on him.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:27am@Just….I had a bit of a knee jerk reaction myself…I could’ve worded my reply a little better. Peace.
Report Post »DangerMike
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:39amMr. Jeff Simpson and KSL;
Report Post »THANK YOU for not surrendering your values and morals.
Please know that there are TENS of MILLIONS of Americans who view your actions not as “Homophobic” but rather as “Principled”, and we support you wholeheartedly.
Angel_light
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:45amI concur
Report Post »momrules
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:52amWell said. I agree.
Report Post »TheyMustBeStopped
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:39amThis is good news! No business should be FORCED to broadcast things that are against their conscience. It‘s time for God’s people to rise up in this country.
I hope this demonic TV show fails abysmally.
Report Post »kalli
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:39amWonderful! I congratuate KSL for their decision to keep the airwaves clear of this crap. I stopped watching all broadcast TV in May 2008 and just recently stopped paying for TV altogether. There are only a few stations that have anything worth watching. This country is under the judgment of God, in case you haven’t noticed. Unless we turn from our wicked ways, immorality, corruption and greed, and stop defying the Creator, this country will be lost.
Report Post »okishdu
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:38amI’m really tired of the pressure of the media to include ever increasing numbers of LGTB characters in virtually every show on TV. The name of the show is the tell ‘The New Normal’ is exactly what they hope to accomplish. And virtually all of the LGTB characters are loving and practically angelic. Come on, in real life they are truly ‘just like other people’ including being just as mean and nasty as the rest of us.
Report Post »afishfarted
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:37amSo GLAAD says the tv station is out of touch with the rest of the country (paraphrasing). BULL !! This moniroty has been shoving an agenda down America’s throat and the majority has allowed it. Now the majority is FINALLY standing up and say ENOUGH !! NO MORE
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:37amyou will see more of this if Romney is elected, Mormons are as intolerant as the Taliban.
Report Post »kalli
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:45amSteelhead is a good moniker for you..steel can only make thoughtless statements.
Report Post »randy
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:46amI sure as heII hope so!
Report Post »Now go back down to your basement. Your mommy will call when your lunch is ready.
And don’t forget to wash your hands when you and your partner finish with your unnatural sex acts.
Steelhead
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:55amRandy- your name says it all,lol Got your head in the gutter again don’t you.
Report Post »RedNeckMormon
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:04pmWhat you call “intolerant” the other 90% of Christians call the “TRUTH” !!!!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:22pmHow many people have the Mormons beheaded lately Steely, you dope?
Report Post »Altair
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:27pmTolerance is for people who have no convictions.
Report Post »afishfarted
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:32pmGONZO, I can always count on you to simpliy an argument. good one
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:38pmREDNECK- How does it make you feel that most Christians don’t consider Mormons Christians at all. That’s the truth and it is also why they call you Mormons and not Christians.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 12:48pmSofthead
I know that you a given over to hyperbole, flights of fancy & outright lies.
But seriously do have anything like what is happening in Afghanistan happening in Utah.
17 PEOPLE BEHEADED IN AFGHAN TOWN OF KAJAKI
vladtepesblog.com/?p=52182
I thought not. Intellectual debate for you is nothing but an excuse to lie.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 1:02pmOoooo EMPTYHEAD…boogah, boogah…Romney will usher in another dark ages complete with inquisitions and witch hunts. Will we see you in stocks EMPTYHEAD? Scary……
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:57pmSTEELHEAD
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i6OrOZwtmA
I_Love_Chick_Fil_A
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 7:25pm@Steelhead
What kind of lying troll are you? I can guarantee that you have never met an active Member of my church that is intolerant. We in the LDS church ARE Christian, we love the Savior Jesus Christ as much as the members af any other church and we follow his teachings incuding those that teach tolerance. I personally hate the gay lifestyle, but I treat my patients who are gay just as kindly and nicely as any other patients. I even treat liberals kindly! HAHAHA Anyway, you are very ignorant, hateful and dishonest. If you want to see how horrible Mormons are, spend 5 minutes on this site and pray about what you see. Ask God if what you saw on this site is good.
Report Post »http://www.lds.org/?lang=eng
dat bee
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 4:02am“you will see more of this if Romney is elected, Mormons are as intolerant as the Taliban” Good Heavens! What planet are you hanging on….LDS people are some of the kindest, most tolerant, caring people I come in contact with. You will never see an LDS person stone a gay person to death. The Taliban… that is a camel of a different color!
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:36amScrew the licker and suckers – let them get their own TV station if they want to show their in your face sh^t
Report Post »PurrrpleMtnMajesty
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:45amThey already have it. In fact there are a few, but one in particular. It’s on Direct TV and most cable networks. LGBTV; also LOGOS (I think that’s the network name)…probably many more as well!
Report Post »SingerGuy
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 2:39pmLGBTV? Yet another reason for Glenn to rebrand his media outlet as TheBlazeTV. It’s just a little too close. Don’t want to cause brand confusion like that, eh?
Report Post »sy212
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:35amGood for Bonneville, don’t bend, the name says it all. The show is called “The new Normal”. Normal to who? To gays, because they say so? No thanks, that’s what wrong with politics, period, these days. Just because gays call gay normal doesn’t make it so and you should not bend to their whims…. And Ellen……shut up, no one cares what you tweet.
Report Post »scrapadapolis
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:34amLet me get this through your thick liberal skulls! IF I OWN a radio or tv or newspaper you or noone else will tell me what I can or cannot do.If the stance on the church OWNED station says no then the answer is no.
Report Post »HornsFan96
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:32amThe previews for this show look disgusting. It is trying to normalize living arrangements where children are subjugated to their parents’ sexual lifestyles, instead of being raised in two-parent, heterosexual homes that give them the best opportunity for healthy development.
Sick.
Report Post »lembrandt
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:49amI agree with Hornsfan – this preview *is* disgusting. Of course, within the preview, the female lead says”…a family is a family, and love is love…” – this is a nice attempt to frame the argument.
Who *wouldn’t* be all for family and love. I mean, isn’t that what you right wingers are always preaching, so, ergo, you *have* to like this show…
Well, I *don’t* have to like this show. In fact, I don’t have to agree that “The New Normal” *isn’t* a creepy show about a decidedly *non normal* lifestyle.
Also, the title – Come on, the title alone is revolting. **If** this is the new normal, then what is the traditional male/female/child family now? Old? Passe? The past – make way for the future?…which is what the pervert left would like us all to believe.
I predict this show will fail on the title alone (unless NBC tries to cram it down our throats regardless of the ratings) and further more it will help to damage democrats and Obama come election time, if it is still running by then.
One more thing – the people in it set my teeth on edge. Did whomever did the casting, try to cast annoying people in it?
Report Post »lembrandt
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:57amOne more thing. *anything* that annoys Ellen Barkin **must** be a good thing.
Report Post »QuincySmith
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:03pmLem;
I don’t think they tried casting annoying people (I haven’t see the preview – nor will I), it just works out that way – go figure.
Report Post »jungle J
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:30amhomosexuals create drama because theysee only what they want to see.
Report Post »walnutportconservative
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:40amThat is true for most of us… I am not a… well… you know… pervert.
Report Post »Never the less we justify our actions no matter what they are. We see what we want.
God help us ALL.
Save us from ourselves.
stotlaat
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:30amAnd the lbgt folks run spots with a Christian bias in their outlets? Really?
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:28amHOORAY! This is what COURAGE AND COMMITMENT look like!!!
When our GOD said, “You will have NO other gods before ME”, HE meant it!
We are not socially correct.
We are not politically correct.
We are, as GOD CALLS US, “peculiar people.”
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 11:43amCould not be prouder of this station, and I am pretty sure it is not deemed socialy acceptable to most of the people in Salt Lake and the rest of the Valley. It is a “church” owned station. What part of that do they not get?
Report Post »ImMormon
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:46pmI’m glad 95% of the people on here are smart enough to know you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. I don’t have the desire to even try to talk sense into your grossly messed up mind. I suggest you check your sources of information before you start your spewing words. I’m embarrased for you.
Report Post »Smoke Ranch
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 3:46pmYour ignorance shows. Your lack of knowledge is noted. There are many gays (except in Iran where they just kill them) everywhere. Doesn’t make it right.
Report Post »mmmmarilyn
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:13pmMormons are pretty silly.
Report Post »But no more than any other religion.
Christians think – in the 21st century, a book written in the Bronze age
is some kind of, ‘Guide to Life.”
mmmmarilyn
Posted on August 27, 2012 at 4:06pmRomney had 5 grandmothers.
Report Post »He doesn’t even KNOW who he is.
Exiled
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:16amBring back “Three’s Company”!
Report Post »QuincySmith
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 12:31pmmarilyn;
Your EVIDENCE is? Without including great-grandparents, what you claim is IMPOSSIBLE!
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