Blaze Exclusive: Check Out the Paratus .308 Clandestine Breakdown Special Ops Rifle — Available to Civilians, Too
- Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:11am by
Buck Sexton
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The Blaze has been given a first look at an incredible special ops breakdown rifle that you haven’t seen anywhere else.
Consider this a special Firearms Friday treat:
(DRD Tactical Arms)
It’s called the Paratus 16, and it is one of the most exciting new rifle designs we’ve seen in a long time.
Designed from the bottom up and built by DRD Tactical Arms, the Paratus was conceptualized from the start as a multi-purpose rifle specifically for Spec Ops/Covert Ops missions. It can also suit many diplomatic or executive security, military, air crews, law enforcement– and of course– home defense uses.
What DRD Tactical has come up with is a high-tech clandestine ops rifle that fits right in your backpack.
While it derives some of its basic concepts from the AR-15 family, the Paratus goes much further with an innovative new breakdown design. As DRD Tactical told the Blaze:
“We developed [Paratus 16] in 7.62NATO/.308 caliber, and the AR platform, being so popular, led us to stay with a direct gas operated system. There are 2 utility patent applications filed, one on the internal recoil system and the other on the quick take down barrel design. The internal recoil system eliminates the buffer tube, spring and buffer from a traditional AR15 design, hence allowing it to have a folding stock.”
(DRD Tactical Arms)
For those of you who want to get right down into the nuts and bolts, here are all the weapon specifications:
CALIBER: .308/7.62×51mm
(DRD Tactical Arms)
OPTIC MOUNTING RAIL: MIL-STD 1913 SIGHTS: Magpul MBUS Front & Rear
WEIGHT: 9.2 LBS
LENGTH: 38″ with stock unfolded
BARREL: Lothar-Walther Stainless Steel (LW50) 16” with 1 in 10 twist
MAGAZINE CAPACITY: 20 Rounds
BUTTSTOCK: Magpul Folding, Adjustable
SAFETY SELECTOR: Standard AR15 type
RIFLE FINISH: NiBore (NICKEL BORON) TRIGGER
GROUP: GEISSELE 2-STAGE
OPERATION: Direct Gas operated Semi-Automatic
While it has all the benefits of gas-operated rifles like the AR-15 and M4, it adds a high level of portability and can be fitted in many configurations. Much of this stems from the rifles original concept as a clandestine operations firearm, first and foremost.
To that end, the Paratus has a quick change barrel that you don’t need any tools to afix, which means switching out barrels in the field is no problem. One could also decide to carry multiple barrels of different lengths for various missions, like short barrels for Close Quarters Battle and long barrels for Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR) applications.
The whole Paratus package can fit in a small camera size hard case 16“x 10” x 6″, or be placed in a Halliburton diplomatic attache case. There are also backpack and endless other civilian carry case options. You can see one standard carry configuration below:
(DRD Tactical Arms)
So how fast can it be assembled from the case? Really fast. In fact, you can see for yourself in video of the Paratus going from breakdown to throwing rounds, courtesy of DRD Tactical:
Now some of you may be asking “Can I get one?”
The Paratus was created with the elite warfighter in mind, but it is now available to civilian gun owners too. As DRD Tactical put it to The Blaze: ”Since we live in a free republic and our fellow citizens can own rifles we will be selling them to the commercial market as we work on demos with [government] personnel.”
For more information on this incredible new rifle, go to DRD Tactical.
(DRD Tactical Arms)
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Comments (466)
Nate3377
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:18amI’ve got to get me one of these!!
CATPBJ
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:28amYeah, I know, 2nd Amendment…. BS! Civillians should not be allowed to buy these. Is it used for protection like a handgun? No. Is it used for hunting? No. End of story. You cannot get one!
Epic Fail
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:41amI’ll take 2! And hey CAT if you don’t want one, don’t buy one.. And go back to huffpo.
Report Post »Landon410
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:41amcat, why can’t i have a .308 semi auto rifle for hunting? (i already have one DPMS LR308) but why is it bad?
Report Post »longun45
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:46amThat would be fun, but I have other things on the list for $5600.
Report Post »drphil69
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:49am@cat – rotfl… I CAN GET ONE… BUT YOU CAN’T. I love people like you – are the KING? Are you the DICTATOR? DOES IT PISS YOU OFF THAT I CAN BUY ONE OF THESE?? THAT I CAN BUY AK-47s AND AR-15s? DOES IT MAKE YOU ANGRY THAT I HAVE THE DISPOSABLE INCOME TO BLOW $6K ON ONE OF THESE WITHOUT THINKING TWICE?
No, you will be one of many begging on the streets after the fall…
I will have one of these to protect myself from people like YOU – the ones who think they are ENTITLED TO MY FOOD, MY WATER, MY SHELTER.
So, go get in line for govt cheese. Don’t venture out to farm country thinking you will get a free meal, you will only get FREE LEAD.
I WILL NOT COMPLY.
I AM JOHN GALT.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:49amPlease explain CAT what law says I can’t have one of these? I don’t live in NJ, NY, CA, or any of the other ‘ People’s Republic of *insert despot* ‘…. So again please, tell me why I can’t have one?
And if I do get one, please try and come take it from me. We have very strong “Castle Laws” in Montana…Only second to TX I do believe…
Report Post »Radiant.Simplicity
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:55amYes very cool I want one too! Bet it cost some $$$.
Report Post »iyam
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:57amthis sure is pretty.
Report Post »Jezcruzen
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:00amAt a price of $5,613, I guess my old M4 will have to do!
Report Post »BigM4U
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:03am@CAT
Report Post »The 2nd amendment was written for protection not only of home and self, but also to have equal firepower to that of the government, in the case of tyranny. Hunting has nothing to do with it. Further, if the fact that I can own one upsets the likes of you, is more reason to own SEVERAL! So put that in your crack pipe and put it where the sun don’t shine!!!
Blazebanned
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:04amAlso, everything this weapon has is available now, just not as a complete package.
Report Post »@Epic fail, you only need one, why spend the cash on two;p
The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:06am“Clandestine”until you fire it…then everyone turns to see where the .308 cannon fire is coming from.
Gun go BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!
Report Post »2A
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:06amI’m gonna buy one just to piss off CAT, and another “just to have”.
Report Post »woodyee
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:12am@CAT
You are so ignorant of your Rights, it’s down-right funny! LOL!!
Report Post »fish2mar
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:13amHey CAT, I own three different .308 Semi-Auto rifles, an M1A, a G3, and a FN-FAL, and ALL are legal to hunt with in many places. I really like the ability to ‘Hunt’ an intruder in my home at 4 AM. You should stop by sometime, and I’ll show you. Should we say about 4 AM ? hehehehehehehe
Report Post »MittensKittens
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:17amWhat’s the big deal, it’s an AR15 platform with a .308 upper….whoopty shyt.
Report Post »Medbob
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:21amCat, those aren’t the only two reasons for owning a gun. Putting lead on target is a worthwhile past time in itself. Add to that the fact that this weapon is perfect for tactical situations: What do you call it when you have a burglar at 3 in the morning? I would classify that as a “Tactical Situation”. Calling the cops is strategic, as they are only minutes away.
Report Post »Oh… BTW…. There’s also that “Keep the Government afraid of tyranny” thing.
ENIGMA28724
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:23amI’d like to have one too. In reply to CATPBJ, there is no reason this rifle couldn’t be used for hunting or for protection. You are just biased against it because it because it is appears to be an “assault rifle”. A shooter with a pump shotgun[used for hunting and protection] at close to medium range would be just as dangerous. Your ignorance on the subject is obvious!
Report Post »Havok
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:23amToo bad its gas impingement.
Report Post »Ill stick with a HK-91.
AvengerK
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:25amAt first glance I thought it was an AR15. Folding stock like an H&K G36. The receiver is a familiar design so you can rely on muscle memory…Nice weapon.
Report Post »darkknight91
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:27amNevermind Cat. He’s a sissy. I’d rather have an AR-10. Wouldn’t pay 5K for this.
Report Post »eaterofdead
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:29amthese type of guns are what the 2nd is about, its for when the gov and courts go over to the dark side.
Report Post »Roberts any one. its so we can shoot the bastards in the head when they come for us.
james denell
VRW Conspirator
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:31am@CatPBJ….
first.. YUCK…you put cat on your PB&J sandwich…guess that explains a lot….but back on topic
the Second Amendment speaks of a “well regulated militia”… WHO do you think that is? NOT in your revisionist academic elitist language but in the language of 18th century Europe and America? OH I see…you don’t KNOW because you decided NOT to investigage that aspect? Well, lets school you a little bit…
the concept of a Militia MEANT the general public…otherwise it would have said “Standing Army” or “Police Force”… NOT Militia…
therefore…a “well regulated Militia” meant that the GENERAL PUBLIC was to be ARMED so that they could PROTECT their property rights (you know.. “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” ) from ANYBODY that tried to take it…be that foreign enemy, domestic enemy (criminals, Indians, other cities or states) and from the TYRANNY of the central government…but ESPECIALLY the TYRANNY of the central government…
Our Founders KNEW that the government MUST fear the people not the people fearing the government. The ONLY way that a government EVER fears the people is if the people have the ability to rise up and throw off that government in the event of tyranny, despotism, or dictatorship/absolute monarchy. That is why Socialist, Communist, Marxist, and Fascist TAKE AWAY gun rights first, then go after religious and speech freedoms..all in the name of the PUBLIC good BTW..
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:46amWho the hell is he to say we can’t own something? I’ll tell you what, if we can’t have one, you can‘t own those skinny jeans you’re wearing! Apparently, it’s affecting your ability to think straight. Does it make you look better than your sister? No. Does it allow your testicles to breathe right? No. So you can’t have them!
Report Post »SeanW
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:47am@CATPBJ You do not know the first thing about the Second Amendment, and it is people like you that need to educate themselves before opening their mouths. The Second Amendment is NOT about hunting. The Second Amendment is NOT about defending yourself from your fellow citizens. The Second Amendment IS about keeping the government and her agents scared and on notice that if they push too far we will rise up and retake our government. Do you not understand that this is the ONLY country in the world where the Government derives its right to existence from the people and not the other way around? Maybe this will help you, probably not, but I will try nonetheless:
Report Post »1. “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” (Thomas Jefferson Papers p. 334, 1950)
2. “Forty years ago, when the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised…to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually, by totally disusing and neglecting the militia…” (George Mason, In Virginia’s Ratifying Convention, Elliot p.3:379-380)
3. “Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation.. (where) ..the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” (Fede
DaveAz
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:48am@ Cat, I have hands and use them for many things, but they can become fists. My hands are weapons. Want to take them too?
Report Post »ManThong
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:52amWhat a distraction.. for $500.00 get a WASR AK… same firepower for any non spec-op person in a weapon you can afford to throw away.
If you can afford two of those things and want to be feared, get an M-82.. just make sure you can heave it around.
Report Post »jonnymac
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:54am@CAT… I know plenty of people that use AR’s for home defense and hunting. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. And like BIGM4U said, weapons weren’t in the second amendment just for hunting and home defense. It was also so the government would think twice about trying to oppress the people. One of the many safeguards put in place to protect this nation from enemies within. Also has the side effect of no one wanting to invade the US since such a large portion of the population is armed. The guns are not the problem. Criminals will have guns even if they are illegal, they are criminals, they break the law, its what they do.
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:58amThe public has needed a rifle like this for over 20 years and at last its here.
I like that silencers since I dislike wearing ear muffs. This would be great for returning fire at terrorists in a shopping mall or movie theater. Good too for defending your church against Atheist Homosexual Democrats like at that Sihk Temple. Does H-Depot have it yet in their hardware department?
Landon410
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:01pmyea but that WASR is going ot shoot 6 inches at 100 yards, with any decent scope I’d be able to shoot a 3 round sub MOA group at 100 with this thing.
and for you gun haters sub MOA means I can shoot something the size of your eyeball multiple times from 300 feet away
Report Post »cookcountypatriot
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:04pmoh hell yes…and to those progressives that dont want one…fine..dont buy one….i want one..its a fine weapon……..i love that its so compact…
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:05pmI LOVE IT
That rifle is causing sparks to travel down my leg. I think I will get three one for my two cars and one for home protection. My daughter goes to V-Tech and this would make an ideal compliment to her Ipad in class. If gun fire breaks out on campus she will be prepared to defend her friends and class mates.
Report Post »makamae
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:05pmCatpbj – The second amendment was written so people could go hunting… it was written so the citizens of our nation would have a defense against tyranny. Get a clue.
Report Post »The Jewish Avenger
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:22pmI’ll take 3 one for the misses and two for the kids…
Report Post »I’ll stick to my old wares.
mopman64
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:24pm@DRPHIL69, Love it, love you. Tell it like it is to these sispots like cat. I wish I had the money to get one.
Report Post »SiP
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:40pmDon’t you guys realize how dangerous this thing is? It’s clearly not for civilians, because it’s not made of wood! Civilians can‘t be trusted with guns that aren’t brown, especially if they have places to put attachments. And besides, look at that grip. This is supposed to be a rifle, so why does it have a pistol grip? Don’t you know that pistol grips are only used for killing people?! Plus look at that magazine! Nobody needs to be able to spray that many bullets. If this gun were sold with just a 5-round or 10-round magazine, or if bigger magazines were totally illegal, we wouldn’t have to worry about someone using it for mass-killings or cop shoot-outs being able to “fire so rapidly and [have] so many bullets“ that ”you can’t get to him to dislodge the gun”, because of course no criminals ever get a bigger magazine than what guns come with or the law allows. People should have to reload at least every 10 rounds. Oh, and this thing is semi-automatic. That’s practically the same thing as a machine gun – a “heavy weapon”! Don’t you realize how much faster bad guys can fire bullets from a semi-auto firearm than, say, from a revolver (like Jerry Miculek)?
Report Post »lketchum
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:47pm@CATPBJ, The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting, or sporting of any kind. It is there to ensure that no government can infringe upon the peoples right to keep and bear arms that are the equal, or better than those carried by government troops – thus allowing the people to resist tyranny.
To make my case clear, British troops were armed with smooth bore muskets, accurate to about 50 yards, while the colonialists were armed with rifles – these being “rifled” allowed for accurate fire out to 300 yards and more.
A couple of other points: many gun grabbers state things like, “well at the time of the Revolution, we were defending against a “foreign” power.” – that is utter nonsense. At that time there was no United States and the colonial revolutionaries were British Subjects, just like soldiers they fought against.
Another point, colonialists didn’t begin shooting at British soldiers until “their” government moved to seize their stores of powder and shot (their ammunition) at Lexington and Concord. In a game changing way, colonialists, armed with better rifled arms, could aim and deliver accurate fire, and they used this to target British officers specifically and from behind cover. The British could not answer back as in many cases they could not even see who was slaughtering them.
The rest as they say, is history, and we have our own history in part, because civilians had superior arms.
Report Post »The Weapon
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:47pmCATPBJ, you’re an idiot. The 2nd Amendment doesn’t protect our right to to self defense or guarantee our right to hunt. Its to protect ourselves from Tyranny. And if you don’t believe that then just go along with all the other sheeple that take their freedom for granted. You want my guns? Come and take them biotch!
Report Post »Anadara
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:55pmMy pistol is for self defense, My rifle is for hunting, my black guns (and now this one) are my insurance against tyranny and despotism. Now, I know that there are people who dont agree, but its the Left’s desire to undermine of American freedom that makes liberals want to control guns. If the hypcritical Left wanted to save lives, they would get rid of our nation’s drug problem, or require a 3 day waiting period to buy a car.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 1:03pmThe anti gun crowd gets their panties all in a bunch when they see something like this. You could show them a pic of a M1Carbine, and because the stock is wood, they would think it fine. Generally you find the media is clueless when it comes to any firearm.
there seems to be a big craze right now for the short barrel piston driven guns. Personally, I stay away from them. While they are smooth and clean to shoot, they generally lack in accuracy. Gas gun may be more dirty, but they are generally more accurate. Check and see the scores AR gas guns are getting at Camp Perry these days. Just weeks ago, two shooters (one military, one civilian) both shot perfect 300s in the President’s Hundred match, shooting gas ARs. Never has that been done with the piston driven M1a.
These short barrled (16 inch) carbines also lose velocity, and are very loud. With such a short barrell, you are not getting full value of the powder in the charge that you would get with a 20 inch barrell.
There are lots of “gun people” that always want the latest Zombie gun out there, and while I back their ability to get it, most are wanna-be types that can’t shoot worth a flip.
I laugh when I got to civilian gun ranges, and you see all the Bubbas with their zombie rifles with the lights, lazers, fancy broom handle grips. They set up on some sandbags, and blaze away at the whopping distance of 25 yards. Or they stand there, and blaze away with Wolf ammo, and just burn ammo. To each his
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 1:06pmBy The Time you opened the case and assembled the thing,Eric Holder’s jackboots would have done gotten 200 bullets in you.
Report Post »strike1st
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 1:26pmNow that looks like FUN! I may need to add this as the big brother to my AR’s.
Poor CATPBJ…you must have never experienced the enjoyment of different firearms platforms…you see most people don’t buy these kinds of firearms for “killing”. You may be surprised to know there are competitions that require these and similar types of firearm platforms; it’s called sport.
I encourage you to excercise your rights by choosing not to own this type of firearm but I do ask that you leave my right to own this alone.
Have a nice day.
Report Post »korbin
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 1:50pmNot in COMMUFORNIA you can’t own anything with a folding stock after all everything including a DAISY is an assault rifle, can’t wait till I sell all my property and quit my 20 year job and move to a Constitutional friendly state. I hate my own state how EFFED up is that, between the gun laws and all of my taxes supporting illegals I can’t take it….
Report Post »cockENstien
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 1:52pm@catpbj
stfu
Report Post »cockENstien
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 1:56pm@CATPBJ
Why dont you shut your whinny f*cking mouth allready
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:09pm@ Cat PBJ:
Bite me.
So how does this differ from the ACR and SCAR?
Looks like most of that assembly time was dedicated to snugging down the barrel nut. Maybe a 1/8 turn quick lock like what it appears was used on the free floating front rail system would shave a good 20 seconds off that assembly time.
Report Post »JoesyWales1
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:13pmI want one for every member of the family
Report Post »RJ1067
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:16pmI am PRO gun but I do not see any reason why a Civilian would need one of these. I have not been hunting in years & keep saying i am going to buy a cheap gun to practice with & then work my way up as I get better. Food prices keep going higher & higher & where I live we have so many critters running around that many of them end up dead on the highway. I could save a few $$$ by shooting a few Deer, Rabbits & even Squirrels. (ok a lot of rabbit & squirrel) and target practice would be a good stress reliever. Have we already forgotten about the killings in Colorado ? This is the type of gun the crazy killers like to use because you can kill a bunch of people in a matter of seconds. What will you say when a crazy nut job buys this gun (Legally) & then goes out & kills a few dozen people at your kids school,movie theater or mall ? What if your son/Daughter was one of the dead from that asshat in Colorado ? would you still want a gun like this sold Legally ? I fully understand that the Bad guys do not follow the laws but do we have to make it so easy for them to get a gun that was built for one reason & one reason only & that is to KILL other humans ? JMO
PS. on a happier note…. IT’S FRIDAY ! ! lets all go get “Randy Travis Drunk” tonight.
Report Post »Dennis
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:27pm@CATPBJ
Report Post »Now that you have established that we cannot have one.
We will be good, sit down shut up and eat our peas……..Not.
blazingaway
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:28pmI agree we all should have one … best insurance for our freedoms every from invasion or betrayal by the government if they every try to enslave us with our own law enforcement or military
Report Post »Jack in Ga
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:35pmI love this article!! I bet all the liberals get all nervous inside when you put that “available for civilians” tag on the story. :) While I won’t be spending $5,600 on this I really appreciate The Blaze for reporting on it. The truth is libs that I spent $750 on a nice AR-15 Carbine and it‘s all I’ll ever need. I got a whole bag full of 30 round magazines, just imagine those “large capacity” magazines libs all sitting in a bag waiting for a liberal “home invader” (most criminals are democrats because they’re soft on crime).
Report Post »2WarAbnVet
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:42pmWell CAT, there are others who would agree. Since the invention of firearms every wanna-be tyrant or despot has attempted to deny or restrict them to those they wanted to subjugate or control. The Founding Fathers were perfectly aware of this, and wrote the Second Amendment as a guarantee that citizens could protect themselves against government tyranny:
Report Post »The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty.” – Adolf Hitler
“The measures adopted to restore public order are: First of all, the elimination of the so-called subversive elements …. They were elements of disorder and subversion. On the morrow of each conflict I gave the categorical order to confiscate the largest possible number of weapons of every sort and kind. This confiscation, which continues with the utmost energy, has given satisfactory results.” – Benito Mussolini
A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the
bourgeoisie. – Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
“The revolution is now over, and all good revolutionaries must turn in their firearms” – Fidel Castro
stevejanko
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:46pmCat, guns are not just for hunting. They are also meant to defend yourself and by definition kill people. I do believe that “arms” were used to kill king George’s people during our revolution so it can be surmised that our founders knew that guns killed people. This gun looks like a good one!
Report Post »VoiceFromTheRIght
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:51pm@CATPBJ You’ve obviously never studied the founding our our great nation and what the Founding Fathers intended with the 2nd Amendment. They had just overthrown a tyrannical government. The wanted to ensure the new American citizens would be able to do that once again if ever needed. So you darn tooting we should be able to have these in our private possession. ‘nuf said!
Report Post »tthan43
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:51pmBeautiful machine…..would love to have one. If you do not want one, do not buy one. If a person wants one and can afford it, buy it. But a person has no right to tell another person what they can and cannot own. It is legal to own one and, like you, I gotta get one.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:53pmCATPBJ…Molon Labe….
Report Post »JoeBloe
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 3:02pm@CATPBJ
The 2nd Amendment Right to bear arms has nothing to do with hunting, it has to do with two things:
1) the readiness of the people to form a militia when necessary (militia’s are formed by the people not by a standing army or military apparatus. The Founding Fathers wrote quite a lot about the dangers of a standing army. This is why they believed the people should be ready to form a Militia when needed. Being ready meant – as the Founding Fathers wrote clearly about in all their commentaries on The Constitution, The Federalist Papaers and elsewhere – the people having their own, personal arms. They also wrote that those arms be of a sufficient quality and strength to fend off foreign armies, put down insurrections, etc.
2) It is about the right, ability and duty of the free people of the United States, to be the last defense against Tyranny. The representatives of the people (government) may betray their constituents and therefore the people, with their arms, had the right to restore their republican form of government by force, if necessary, as an extreme last resort.
Madison – author of the Constitution – wrote of this in numerous letters and commentaries to The Constitutions, The Bill of Rights and the Federalist Papers….and in Federalist 46 itself.
Hamilton – author of the Federalist Papers – wrote in Federalist 28 and 29. quite clearly and plainly, the same points.
Jefferson, Franklin, etc. wrote extensively & clearly on this, emphasizing #2
Report Post »itsjustmyview1
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 3:16pmWhen everyone else (especially the government) CANNOT have one, then i wont want one…LOL…I am still lusting for the Barrett .50 cal…through a cement wall at a mile…myomy
Report Post »sy212
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 3:21pmCat, yeah, I know, you are a liberal and because you don’t like guns, no one else can own one. Guns are scary, guns are bad, yada, yada, yada. Never mind that some of us just like guns and the technology that is involved in them. Guns can only be used for killing, not for fun. Yeah, I get it, yada, yada, yada…..
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 3:25pmthe gun makers need to be held liable for the death of innocents that these guns will cause. There is no right or need to allow civilians access to military weapons. Its time to enforce the “well regulated” requirement of the 2nd Amendment, before another racists shoots up another temple or another lunatic walks into another movie theater. Those that want this gun, should not be allowed to have any, they don’t have the basic common sense to own any weapon.
Report Post »NWOSHILLSSUK
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 3:41pmOne already on pre order.
Report Post »Vladilyich
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 3:42pmThis is quite nice (I like the breakdown features), but I’ll stick with my FN-P80 with SS190 ammo. Top mounted horizontal clip and light armor piercing (i.e. 40 layers of Kevlar). It’s about the same size and weight, but more complex to breakdown and reassemble.
Report Post »OldSkoolDJ
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 3:46pmcatpbj, move to Massachusetts where this gun is not legal. It fits the definition of an “assault weapon” which you libs love to toss around. Because you’re so enlightened and smart, can you explain what makes it an assault weapon in the Peoples Republic of Mitt?
Probably not, but give it a try.
Report Post »vonstro
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 3:55pmI‘ve gotta’ have one too. Sharp looking AR!
Report Post »Ex_Machina
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 3:55pm@CATPBJ – some required reading for you: http://www.jaegerresearchinstitute.org/articles/militia.htm
Your argument is that the only purpose of a weapon like this is to kill people. To which anyone who understands the second amendment responds, “Exactly.”
Report Post »desertspeaks
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 3:56pmI wonder how much the blaze gets paid to ADVERTISE this gun? is it piece work, clicks, % of sales
Report Post »And my blazlings run to see.. Talk about advertising placement!
NWOSHILLSSUK
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 3:57pmCaptainblowjob below me thinks not, he has no clue.
Report Post »shakedowncrews
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:00pmCATPBJ: shove it. The second amendment had NOTHING to do with hunting it was about the PEOPLE being the MILITIA to defend the nation from enemies foreign and domestic, and please be sure you understand that people like ME think of pansies like YOU as a DOMESTIC ENEMY.
Report Post »Wolfgang the Gray
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:13pmOooh Oooh Oooh! Dear Santa….
Report Post »00100111
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:16pmTXDAVE and ENCILOON, are you off your meds again? Please sit down, you’re getting dizzy. You may want to change your underoos as well, it seems you’ve wet yourself.
Report Post »EruditeMan
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:17pmThe 2nd Amendment and right to bear arms is intended for US citizens to protect themselves against the US Government. We are near the end of civil, economic society in the USA. The rise and fall of nations happens in about 200 to 250 years and is often hastened by governments debasing their currency (just as the private bank named Federal Reserve has done since 1913). Executive orders have already been created to make it easy to establish Marshal Law. In the near future, when the USA goes through hyper-inflation and the currency is more worthless than it is today each of us would be wise to be well armed to protect selves and families. Thanks to Marxist, Socialist, DummyCrats electing an ineligible POTUS and his desire to destroy this nation we will see many people killed by the US military and/or placed in internment camps around the country.
Report Post »Dave.556
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:26pmcatpbj our gun rights are not for hunting or sport we have it to protect us from the iron fist of government when the wrong people get in and strip us of our freedom,just as im sure someone like you would have them do in a second. Americans are getting tired of people like you forcing this trash down our throats so please stuff a cork in it! On a lighter note to all non COMMYS this is a cool rifle over priced but cool.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:27pm“…..many people killed by the US military…..”
You were going good till you said that…
Report Post »Axed_off
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:27pmok now you have seen the only item on my Christmas wishlist as i do not currently have the money for it
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:42pm@VRW CONSPIRATOR
That is why Socialist, Communist, Marxist, and Fascist TAKE AWAY gun rights first…
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Depends. At this stage, I wouldn’t disclose what I own in a public forum, and I’d keep most of my weapons out of sight. Just sayin’.
Are you prepared to defend yourself against non-conventional weapons? Do you have a safe haven for your wife and kids in case the SHTF? My guess, though, is that Commieman will try to avoid a full-blown civil war. He didn’t get into the WH via a revolution. As Glenn has pointed out, that was the MO in the 60s and it failed. Let’s not forget, this traitor has state-of-the-art tech and a huge machine at his disposal.
We need to think outside the box.
Report Post »LordChaos
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 4:50pmFor that kind of money I would buy a couple of M1A’s. More reliable and less cleaning. Gas impingment systems are so messy.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:03pmHAVOK, At my first glance I thought that it might be based on the FN SCAR-H, but they are already building a semi auto for the civilian market. Then that gas impingement really caught my attention. Looked like the same bent gas tube on top of the barrel group. The SCAR-H, and even the civilian version SCAR 17S, works on a short stroke cycle where the expanding gases are mainly contained in a telescoping piston. Much cleaner than gas impingement. So, this weapon is built to look like the SCAR, but they don’t want to pay the licensing fees to make a full copy. Would be interesting the check on out though.
Report Post »chobers
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:23pmAt $5600- each, a bolt-action Remington will be more my speed if I go for a .308. I think 30-06 is more versatile, however. At least it used to be.
Report Post »Hannsta
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:00pmLandon410, something about hunting with one of these reminds me of the SNL skit were Chris Farley, Mike Myers and couple others go hunting with assult rifles, grenades and rocket launchers. What is really the sport in hunting at that point? Why not just bring a tank with you? If you just like sweet guns, admit it :P
Report Post »obamasacommie
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:23pmSince when did the 2nd amendment allow only for hunting and handgun weapons, or when did your opinion become the deciding factor on what type of firearms that law abiding citizens can own. Go live in Mexico, England or Australia if you wish to live in a gun free country. I know how safe those countries are, wait no it’s the oppisite they are terribly dangerous countries, expecially Mexico the big difference is here in the USA you are able to defend yourself. Get a clue and try to respect The Constitution that so many of our brave men and women have fought and died defending or pack up and get out your choice.
Report Post »Boise Rocker
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:24pm@CATPBJ – how do you know people don’t hunt with it? It would be perfectly legal to hunt with that rifle in several states, as long as soft point ammo is used. BUT…that’s a red herring, anyway, ’cause nowhere in the 2nd Amendment is hunting mentioned. Can’t be used for defense? Again, what would you, being so trusting of the government to protect you, know about home or national defense? Admit it…this rifle (and probably every other firearm in existence) scares you. That’s okay…you can go wet your pants and hide in the corner while the real men of this country protect you.
Report Post »Hickory
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 6:55pmI will have one……………………..
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 7:26pmWow. Congratz, Cat PBJ. You’ve just united virtually the entire userbase of The Blaze in flaming you into thermonuclear oblivion. Bravo.
“The Second Amendment is not about hunting deer in the woods. It’s about hunting politicians in the streets.”
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 8:33pmI suggest Legislating a LAW requiring every household to own
Report Post »and be trained in the use of this weapon..excluding illegal’s and
felons. I WILL be the first one in My neighborhood to own one
when it becomes available…….OORAH !!!
MIBUGNU2
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:04pm@encinom
Report Post »Posted on August 10, 2012 at 3:25pm
the gun makers need to be held liable for the death of innocents that these guns will cause. There is no right or need to allow civilians access to military weapons. Its time to enforce the “well regulated” requirement of the 2nd Amendment, before another racists shoots up another temple or another lunatic walks into another movie theater. Those that want this gun, should not be allowed to have any, they don’t have the basic common sense to own any weapon
Have to give a BIG F’OFF on this one….You seem to forget that a large number
of AMERICANS have been VERY WELL TRAINED in the use of these weapons,
as a former Marine I believe I would be qualified to own a weapon like this…and
any American, excluding illegal’s of felons, should own one as well with the proper
training in its use….the ones you should worry about, are the people that are
trying to take away OUR guns… sleep well tonight, some of us will protect YOU…
Vdavid3
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:32pmOk CAT, so who decides where to draw the line, morons like you?
Report Post »I’m ordering mine tomorrow before you and Cass Sunstein and that ***** Holder ban them. Just try to coffinsgate it you liberal idiot!
goldmankc
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:07pmevery home should be assigned one of these along with markmanship training. the 2nd amendment isnt about duck hunting
Report Post »Bdubrocks
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:21pmI’m going to purchase three of these to protect my constituional rights from people like CATPBJ. No! make that five.
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:40pmWe will be able to end hostage and terrorist shoot outs without the police.
While the CoPs are setting up, putting on their armor, ordering coffee, donuts, and pizza, civilians will be able to use this rifle to snipe off the terrorists before the CoPs can call for back up. The bodies will hit the ground and we will be on our way while the CoPs fill out the paper and try to figure out what happen.
Report Post »bojax
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:41pm@catpbj – What kind of gun would you prefer protecting your family with? Perhaps a super-soaker? You‘re an idiot so I’ll be brief and speak slowly…. Guns don’t kill people, unless you bash them in head repeatedly with one… Bullets kill people! Usually fired from guns in the hands of CRIMINALS! I’ll admit that occasionally accidents do happen, and I do believe that there are people who shouldn’t have guns, as many as there are people who shouldn’t EVER drive cars. The fact still remains, in this Great Nation, a private citizen (not a criminal/felon/crazy person) has the right to own a gun or many if he/she chooses…. If it bothers you so much, move to another country where the laws are more restrictive… I’d bet we could find a few people on this site who would be more than willing to contribute a dollar or two to purchase you a one-way ticket to the country of your choosing….Just sayin’….
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:50pmThese will be excellent for liberating FEMA camps. After a week or two of hostilities the insurgents will begin acquiring the US Army big stuff. That is what usually happens in other nations. When the greens eating, gay, smoke free, Foreign Legion, girly men US Army units begin surrendering then the insurgents will really be able to Rock and Roll with captured equipment.
Report Post »Mr. H.
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:52pmYou can buy a car for what it costs, but I just put in my order for 2 of them anyway.
I have two other .308 rifles and a one .308 pistol. One rifle and the pistol are bolt action. The other is a custom semi auto I like to use for 1000 yard target shooting.
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:53pmObama made a big mistake declaring war on the American people. Everyone who has declared war on the American people is not around anymore. That was a really big mistake.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:32pmAnother fool speaks foolishness…
Report Post »“…RJ1067
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:16pm
I am PRO gun but I do not see any reason why a Civilian would need one of these. I have not been hunting in years & keep saying i am going to buy a cheap gun to practice with & then work my way up as I get better. Food prices keep going higher & higher & where I live we have so many critters running around that many of them end up dead on the highway. I could save a few $$$ by shooting a few Deer, Rabbits & even Squirrels. (ok a lot of rabbit & squirrel) and target practice would be a good stress reliever. Have we already forgotten about the killings in Colorado ? This is the type of gun the crazy killers like to use because you can kill a bunch of people in a matter of seconds. What will you say when a crazy nut job buys this gun (Legally) & then goes out & kills a few dozen people at your kids school,movie theater or mall ? What if your son/Daughter was one of the dead from that asshat in Colorado ? would you still want a gun like this sold Legally ? I fully understand that the Bad guys do not follow the laws but do we have to make it so easy for them to get a gun that was built for one reason & one reason only & that is to KILL other humans ? JMO…”
Obviously RJ is NOT ‘pro gun’- which, soon as someone says that, I know they’re lying. One person with a legal gun could’ve stopped the theater shooting post haste.
Wolf
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:37pmFools like Cat, RJ and Encinom don’t have the basic understanding of freedom. Not for themselves nor for others. Nor do they have a basic understanding of the Constitution and the Amendments, but comfort themselves into wetting their panties whenever a real American does something that displeases their ***** cat sensibilities.
Report Post »Two words for people like you, Cat/RJ/Encinom: KMA and SD&STFU
SerikFox
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 12:43amAnyone who thinks this gun shouldn’t be for civilians, please do tell me more about how your judgment is naturally better than mine and how I am completely untrustworthy to own such an awesome gun. Tell me why it’s safer to only let the criminals and the government have guns. Show me how that equation works out. Or, better yet, I’ll just tell you. Criminals get guns regardless of laws (they are criminals because they ignore laws), and government goes to stop said criminals. Police are likely to get sued if they don’t kill said criminals and only wound them, and they get internal investigations if they do kill them. They get shot at and get paid way to little. Criminals offer more money for police to look the other way. The honorable ones don’t accept the bribes, but a number do. The corrupt set up the honorable, and the corrupt take their power. The honorable are prevented from fighting back because they’ll get sued or fired, and they aren’t willing to play dirty to win. The government becomes criminals, and armed criminals are all that’s left against civilians. Basic point: civilians will always use the gun when they need it because it is necessary for their immediate safety. Anyone who would go shoot people in the streets will get guns regardless of laws; the laws only prevent those in danger from protecting themselves and shooting back. Compare it to being to strict on “protecting forests”.
Report Post »SerikFox
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 12:53amWhen you let a forest (people in this analogy) have it’s natural small burns (self defense shootings and occasional misuse of guns) you keep it from having a big fire (aurora shooting, other big shootings, etc.). What if someone had a gun to stop the lunatic in aurora. Would a couple more people be alive now? When criminals think they can get away without being shot they will go for it. They won’t stop using guns due to laws, but they won’t use them if it means they will die. You cannot expect people to not be able to defend themselves. Think about it. If you were at one of those shootings. Whoever the shooter is is now moving to aim at you. You can’t fight back, you can’t save yourself, you’re going to die (or at the very least be severely injured). Anyone around you whom you care for, your children, your spouse, they’re probably going to die to. However, if you have a gun, you can live, and you can save everyone around you. If nothing else, and you aren’t able to kill the attacker, someone else can grab your gun and shoot them. Saving themselves and possibly others. I’ll let anyone who thinks that these guns be restricted be the first one in line to tell a father or a mother that their child was killed, all because they had no way to defend them.
Report Post »WTFHappenedToTheUSA
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 12:54amCATPBJ…how fittingly hypocritical of you…
You say “BS” to the second…while exercising your first amendment right.
I guess YOU get to decide which Amendments are banished and which are upheld??
Report Post »Lamarr01
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 2:34amWe need this kind of weapon to protect CAT from himself. What will CAT do when the New World Order decides he is a Useless Eater? CAT is a Useful Idiot that trolls blogs posting Leftist propaganda he copies from some website sponsored by George Soros.
When the grocery shelves are empty and the gas tanks are dry, what will CAT do? He will crawl on his belly to the nearest UN refugee camp and sell his soul for a crust of bread.
Report Post »OHMALIK
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 5:23amCan not get one or should not be able to get one it‘s really no big deal it’s not full auto
Report Post »SteelWolf13
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 5:33amActually below poster, I can use it for defense and hunting. Mess with my family watch how fast i defend them and then hunt the offender down. Butt-plate to the face. Sure i’d be looking at assault charges but my family would be safe. If the attacker did not leave he might just be allowed the pleasure of eating lead . Due to recent lawsuits by living attackers we’d have to make sure hes dead. However his relatives would sue because he died invading my house. Personally i’d rather get a good lawyer then have a injured or dead family member of my own. Stop being a democrat. If everyone in the USA had a concealed carry permit and a gun, would shootings like the one at the batman theater happen? No Unless they were looking to commit suicide. Crime rates would drop. Why? Because everyone would have the means to protect themselves. If you make gun laws It will be the criminals that will have the guns. Joe citizen will be caught in the crossfire of Washington gun control lobbyists and the criminals firing back. No one wins.
Report Post »OHMALIK
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 5:34amCat is well aware that anyone can get one and no need to attack this man because he feels guns should not be so readily available combat weapons some of you people are truly sick and with out any God in your life like “@@@@drphil69″ what makes you think our great country is going to collapse and anyone on here will have to eat from trash cans cat i’m sure is employed and could afford such a item $5g‘s is a little to steep for me i’ll stick to what i have as well
Report Post »little big man
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 6:38amCATPBJ
Sure is used for protection like a hand gun. in the home, you keep it behind your bedroom door when someone breakes in you grab that. just imagin the look on a crooks face when youcome after them with that.
Report Post »dcatkin
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 7:42amFirst of alll Cat your a dumb ass. The second amendment is artp of our constitution, and no matter how bad you left handed looneys want to remove our right to bare arms, you can’t.
Now to the obvous; it doesn’t say anywhere in the constitution how we are intended to use the arms that we bare, or what type of arms that we can bare.
Therefoe if I want to languish a fully auto weapon, in my state with the right permits I can. And by the way moron that is a cool gun, and I would buy one if I didn’t have other places for the money to go.
Report Post »bigcsurv
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 8:12amCATPBJ The main reason to own one is the 110 bullet holes from AK’s in the home of a friend during a home invasion by 4 black men and 1 white woman. He managed to kill one and the rest were arrested, a week later in a town 45 miles from the scene. The police were there as quick as possible, but all they could do was work the scene of the crime. Now he has to worry for his wife and family as to what to expect after their release from prision in 5 years. Had he been similary armed, he’d have no worries. Better to have no worries.
Report Post »ObserverOnTheHill
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 9:25amCATPJ can’t get one until the BET card she buys her cat food with can be used to do so. Maybe she doesn’t NEED one because we all know how well cats are known for defending a home against intruders and she probably has 10 or more stinking up her basement apartment.
Report Post »not a liberal
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 9:38amCAT the second amendment was designed so we can defend ourselves from our government ie how this country gained its independence, and why could you not hunt with a .308?
Report Post »STGCSSW
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 9:59amCat, if you or your family ever get in a bind and someone steps up to help you and they are using a weapon like this, you be sure to tell them they can‘t have that weapon and you don’t want their help.
There are sheep, there are wolves, and there are the sheepdogs. You, you poor unenlightened sheep, will someday find yourself your your loved ones in a bind. After you have asked the wolves to please, pretty please, leave you alone, and have thrown you last pillow at them, will be at a loss about what to do. Then you will look for a sheepdog to help and believe me you won’t care what they tool they use. But you are probably the type who will then bad mouth the sheepdog for the actions they took to save you or your family that you were incapable of handling yourself.
The difference between the firearm mentioned here and others is simply a matter of efficiency, not funciton. Now get over it.
Report Post »charleyrocks
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 10:30amWhy do people need this? There is no need but to kill what humans? Or cheating on hunting, like most males do, they should visit the Indians sometimes and get skilled.
Report Post »Fire1949
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 10:31amCAT’s shoe size exceeds its IQ.
Report Post »charleyrocks
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 10:32amWhy do men need this, to hunt humans or to cheat on hunting animals like most white males do. Maybe the indians can show these so called men how to hunt and eat what they catch skillfully.
Report Post »Wes inTexas
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 12:25pmI’ve already contacted where I buy most of my firearms, it will be available for citizen use when they become available, first by pre-order, and later on the self.
Report Post »Dkoonz
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 1:20pmThey is a great looking weapon. Wish i could afford to get one.
Report Post »X-ile
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 2:29pmThe 2nd ammendment is not about hunting. It is about having an armed populous that will keep those in power from imposing tyrannical rule. So if you are truly patriotic you would have not just a weapon but a military style one
Report Post »Serpico
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 2:35pmIn 2005 a storm surprised the gulf coast when it came ashore with all its fury. The normal escape routes quickly became parking lots. No food, no shelter, no fuel, no comforts of home. The situation did present itself with an abundance of chaos, fear and hopelessness. But that was just the headlines of what really took place.
Report Post »Back in paradise, for those of us that were not allowed to escape and those that choose to stay, it took but two or three days without fuel, electricity, food, water and no communication to or from the outside world for the animal instincts of man to take over and lawlessness to prevail.
The lawless moved without reproach, bubba’s took the opportunity to darn their fatigues load up their Wal-Mart purchased rifles and jumped in the back of the pickup trucks looking for something to kill. Law-bidding citizens in many situations were disarmed in their homes by law enforcement leaving them at the mercy of the lawless.
It does not take an incident at a movie theater or a mosque for our way of life to become disaster overnight and completely out of control. And it can be as simple as having the electricity turned off for a couple days and anarchy will begin to show its ugly head.
Law enforcement does not prevent crime and cannot predict when it will occur; law enforcement responds to reports of crime;
So if you choose to not to defend yourself and family, when the lights go dim and you do survive you will hopefully be able to report your molestation
rc30
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 2:53pmNice gun but for me. I will keep my my M-4. I don’t like a gun with this many parts that can fail. My AR-15 M-4 will do me just fine. Yeh the barrel coming off and stock folding nice. But to me more things that can go wrong. I want a gun when I pull the trigger it goes boom. My friends all laugh because I refuse to put on Red Dot scopes and lights green laser. That stuff all nice and fun. But if TSHTF I wan’t to be able to feed my family and defend them. That all I care about. That it shoots stright and it works ever time. I like AKs but at 200 yards I want to kill a deer. Not scare it off.
Report Post »constitutionaldirective
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 3:46pm@CATPBJ …. OH THE SCREAMING IGNORANCE..
You think the 2nd Amendment is about HUNTING????
Sigmund Freud: “A FEAR OF WEAPONS IS A SIGN OF SEXUAL AND EMOTIONAL IMMATURITY”
GROWTHEPUKUP!
Report Post »SanDiegoCountyCitizen
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 3:55pm@CAT
Report Post »When the truckloads of looters show up on your street, and you breath your last breath after trying to hopelessly defend your family with a kitchen knife and a baseball bat, it will likely only be then that you will understand and appreciate the concept of the 2nd Amendment. Until that day, you are an enemy to the constitution and should be imprisoned as a communist subversive.
survivorseed
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 7:10pmSo now this site is advertising assault rifles…cool. Does it come with a detailed floor plan of the local liberal university or mosque and a timetable?
Report Post »Kalish
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 12:28amJEZCRUZEN said :
At a price of $5,613, I guess my old M4 will have to do!
M4 will do just fine !
Report Post »bumpkin
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 1:04am@ catpbj- And WHY NOT??? I want one for hunting! I think it would be quite the kick!
Report Post »aleeser
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 4:26am“My newest 10 commandments, in addition to the Original Ten:
1. I will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.
2. I will NOT obey orders to conduct warrant less searches of the American people
3. I will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as unlawful enemy combatants or to subject them to military tribunal.
4. I will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a state of emergency on a state.
5. I will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
6. I will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
7. I will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
8. I will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to keep the peace or to maintain control.
9. I will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
10.I will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.’
This weapon will definitely help me enforce these commandments! I WANT ONE!
Report Post »Thomas_Jefferson
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 10:10amLiberal Nazis often say that civilians should not be allowed to own advance military grade weapons.
During the American Revolution, The British were armed with smooth bore muskets which were accurate up to 50 yards. The American Militia (Civilians) were armed with Kentucky long rifles which were accurate up to 150 yards. If it weren’t for American Civilians owning weapons more advance than the British military. This would not be THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Report Post »its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:26pm@captblowjob
Report Post »we are allowed to own any firearm that our military has. the reason being is in care we have to fight our government. its morons like you who need to be outlawed. if you dont like it here and the fact we are allowed to own guns i suggest you pack your things and get the hell out we dont want or need losers like your kind here.
supermansdad
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:39pm@ The_Almighty_Creestof
“Clandestine”until you fire it…then everyone turns to see where the .308 cannon fire is coming from.
Gun go BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!”
Not really. Even while shooting super sonic ammo, weapons that are equiped with a suppressor have a tendency for those down range to hear the shot as though it is coming from 90 or 180 degrees from the shooters actual position. This is partly because the ballistic crack of the round is all they hear. As it passes the observers position the last time they hear the sound is after it has passed.
Everyone will turn and look but by the time the hide is discovered (provided using proper technique) all the brass should be cleaned up and the shooter should be exfiltrated. And thats given that they use supersonic ammo, it would be much quieter using sub-sonic loads.
Report Post »its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 3:47pmwhen food prices go way up im just going to take the food from ole cat there with my gun. jackass!
Report Post »Jedburgh
Posted on August 12, 2012 at 6:07pmHey CATPBJ thanks for proving a few very valid points a) liberals can’t read , or what part of “…shall not be infringed!” do you not understand? b) Liberalism is a mental disorder that‘s why it’s mostly liberal nuts that attack .Gifford’s attacker was a liberal, Reagan’s assailant wanted to impress Jody Foster, the Aurora idiot had ties to the most liberal university in Colorado and OCWS.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on August 13, 2012 at 7:45amMeh, I can only afford the Russian Saiga 12 cocktail…cheap and can blow up in your face…why don’t your rich conservative buy me one for my B day, eh? Why so bloody much? How long down the production line will it take for the costs to become REASONABLE?
pfft Can’t afford a high end car either…Can barely afford to live…stop trying to sell me sweet stuff like this…temptation…you know like drinking a beer in front of an alcoholic…thank about it GB…you are breaking my wallet…very tempting with this one.
Report Post »sjflemingusa
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 6:13pmI don’t understand why a Civilian should not be allowed to buy one… please explain CatPBJ .. Is there a Civilian threat that says these should be kept from law abiding citizens? Or is there a reason that sport shooters should be kept from owning these? If so shouldn’t we restrict Crotch rockets and Pole dances and fast cars and take a Inside the airport approach to everything.. I’ve done nothing wrong in my life.. why should I have restrictions placed on me because you want things restricted? Take your tyranny and go elsewhere.. While you’re free to have your way of life in your own utopia… I’m free from it! I like my own freedoms and rights.. and honestly, I want to be even more FREE.. not shackled by laws of tyranny!
Report Post »ZZBlueComet
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 10:30pmI’m in love!
Report Post »Speak2Truth
Posted on August 16, 2012 at 4:55pmCATPJ apparently does not know what the 2nd Amendment protects.
It has nothing to do with hunting or sporting. It protects your right to keep and bear ARMS, that is Combat Weaponry.
As the Supreme Court affirmed in the Miller case, if a weapon can be shown to have combat usefulness, it is absolutely protected against any infringement by government. No permits, no taxation, no restrictions are allowed, just as our Right to vote is protected (no poll tax, etc.)
We Americans support our Right to bear Arms. The enemies of the American People are working hard to eradicate it, especially the communist-founded ACLU and the Democrat / Communist Party.
Report Post »Common Sense Sally
Posted on August 16, 2012 at 5:50pmI think Cat’s comment is more about why someone would “need” one of these versus “wanting” one. Most people I know who are anti-guns, can understand having a pistol or rifle for “self-defense,” but just can’t quite seem to understand why anyone would “NEED” an assault weapon or semi-automatic weapon. I contend it’s mainly due to the fact that they have never fired one of those said weapons to realize how fun they are!
Report Post »The_Surgeon
Posted on August 19, 2012 at 1:18pmhttp://images.codingforcharity.org/dmp/20101201/Free-Cat_20101201225453_reg.png
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:12ami don’t own a centerfire rifle, i need one. i’m a bit old fashion maybe a winchester alaskan in 30.06. at less than 1k i can get the rifle and a whole bunch of ammo. i really like the 30 cal. of ww2.
Report Post »STGCSSW
Posted on August 11, 2012 at 10:07amI’m a big fan of the M1 Garand. Have one and although I don’t shoot as much as I used to, I still think it is great. Heavy but tolerant of weather, dirt, and shoots much better than I do. That may be becuase it was upgraded for me to near National Match condition by a former Marine armorer when I shot high power competition.
Report Post »Mr.Fitnah
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:12amThis works fine if you add a muzzlebrake
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=plr+16&oq=plr+16&gs_l=youtube.3..0l10.32562923.32566347.0.32566612.8.6.1.1.1.0.408.1476.0j2j2j1j1.6.0…0.0…1ac.k9tv75iYYBQ
Report Post »orion1958
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:09amThat Gun is week on the scope and over priced. You could get a lot of AR’s and Ammo for the price of this gun. But if they wanted to sell at a cheaper price I would get one.
Report Post »supermansdad
Posted on August 13, 2012 at 6:04pmYou do realize that you can attach what ever scope you wish right?
Report Post »And a Trijicon ACOG is not really a low-end of the spectrum optic.
Gunnett
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:01amBoring! Looks like a cross between the FN SCAR-H, and a FAL. Certainly not worth the money they are asking for it. I sure hope they gave Glenn a free one for putting it on the website. BTW.. The SCAR is less than $2,800.
Report Post »woodyee
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:20amBut Gunnett, you can’t put a SCAR or FAL in a briefcase – how convenient!
@METALPATRIOT – unConstitutional laws must NOT be obeyed. Obedience conveys compliance. Nullification conveys refusal. In 1989, CA passed Roberti-Roos (state registration and ban of certain long arms). CR[a]PA ran an article by an attorney suggesting acceptance; the NRA opposed it in it’s entirety. In the end, 40,000 out of 250,000 were said to have complied that year – nullification. But so many citizens were running scared and continued adding to the numbers.
Report Post »calypsocoral
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:24pmThe Robinson Arms XCR is sold for less than the SCAR– and it’s more adaptable.
Report Post »wisehiney
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:01amThey take paper money for this? Good trade.
Report Post »Inlandmar2
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:58amStrange that they would chamber this for the 7.62 NATO round (308 Remington). It’s not a close range round. Use this on an airplane and it’s bye bye airplane.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:07amJust because it‘s a large caliber doesn’t mean you can not still use a subsonic load with CQ rounds in it.
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:20amThe .308 is a nice round. Shoots straight and flat for a good distance and can take down an Elk. This would make a very nice hunting rifle. Price is a bit too high.
Report Post »Le Sellers
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:17pmEvery large airplane has a hole the size of a standard phone book in it. A few bullet holes would make no difference to the flight path.
But this weapon is too long to use inside an airplane, no matter how large. It’s just not a close combat weapon.
Report Post »Billis820
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 12:17pmThat’s not true. Mythbusters did an episode and proved that shooting a hole through a plane in flight will not destabilize the plane.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:45pmSorry, Inland: the .308 is a Winchester round, not Remington. ANd why would someone want to use one on an airplane? It doesn’t take a .308 to take down a plane, any old .22 will do.
Report Post »JohnGalt
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:57amVery nice! but odd that it doesn’t use 5.56 (.223) NATO ammo. I’m wondering how many fps it gets or are the stats the same as a AR-15.
Report Post »Landon410
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:03amit would be the same as any other rifle with same length barrel shooting same ammo.
Report Post »rp454
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:10amThe .308 NATO (Winchester) / 7.62 x 51 is a 30 caliber, high power rifle round. It can be loaded with projectiles from 125 gn up to 200 gn. The muzzle velocity depends greatly on the projectile weight, but for example, a 150 gn will have a muzzle velocity of about 2800 fps and a 125 gn can have a muzzle velocity up to 3000 fps. Think of it as a shorter version of the 30.06 Springfield. The ballistics are virtually identical.
Report Post »Havok
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:27am.223 is junk.
Report Post ».308 is a real battle rifle round.
ANTIPATHIZER308WIN
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 3:02pmHavoc
they both have their place. Men can shoot the 308 and the little girly boys can play with the 223. Seriously, both rounds work fine for their intent purposes but the 308 will go through things like walls and still take out a threat. Having both an AR15 and an AR10 I will admit the 15 is a better woodchuck round than a big game round.
Report Post »MetalPatriot
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:54am”Since we live in a free republic and our fellow citizens can own rifles we will be selling them to the commercial market as we work on demos with [government] personnel.”
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Except CA. We can’t even purchase standard .40 cal Springfield XDs because it’s considered to have a “high capacity” magazine.
Maybe the rep is trying to push the point that we SHOULD be able to buy these. I can‘t even find anybody willing to sell M1A’s and ship them here. Let alone an M14…
CA is NOT part of the Republic. Seems like this is becoming epidemic throughout our land. Be aware!
Report Post »woodyee
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:52am@Buck Sexton
Nice article, and HOORAY!!! for Firearm Fridays!!! Buck, if you make this a regular Friday feature, the possibilities are endless, ditto the array of subtopics, and even children can come aboard (must include articles on firearm SAFETY)
THANKS!!!!!!
Report Post »Landon410
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:05ami think a firearm weekly thing and hunting thing would be good. There are a lot of us that love to own guns legally, shoot for fun and hunt for food.
Report Post »I haven’t bought ground beef in years! have been eating deer which is a very lean and healthy red meat.
and some of us see and feel the movement to try to take those rights away from us.
Super68
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:49amI love my weapons as much as the next guy, but if I was gonna drop $5600+ on a rifle, it would be a Barret, or maybe 2 or 3 nice M1As. Besides, I don’t understand the practicality of a modular battle rifle, unless you are a clandestine operator and need to smuggle one into the bad guys back yard. Nice toy, but I’ll pass.
Report Post »Landon410
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:57amif i‘m spending that much i’m getting a greybull precision rifle
Report Post »http://greybullprecision.com/
eagle2715
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:03amNo kidding…
$5 Gs could get you a SCAR-H with every toy in the book..Or as you said a bolt action .50 with a very nice scope… or several different assault rifles…. Or a complete reloading kit and enough brass, powder, and bullets to last 10 years…. Or a remodel in your house to have a walk in gun safe…
Report Post »Jinglebob
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:45amI really have to question the need for this system. and the cost. Companies are always looking for ways to make money and can’t argue with that. It seems to me that there are many great, and cheaper systems out there. I am a M1A1 guy myself. Springfield has a platform or can make one based on this weapon that is proven, less costly, accurate etc.
Report Post »caleejr
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:45amon my wishlist to Santa…..
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:43amRather have a BAR for heavy full auto… (But I’m a bit old fashioned.)
Report Post »Iamnotanumber
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:01amYou and me both!!! Love ‘em!
Report Post »Landon410
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:12ama fully auto 30-06 could do some work, for sure
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:19pm7.62X63 that really is old school.
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:35amI just ordered a cheap television online and crossed my fingers..…
Report Post »Landon410
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:40amseriously funny post, laughed outloud at my desk
Report Post »NewLife56
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:41amROTFLMbO
Report Post »Docrow
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:42amIf it works don’t call the cops.
Report Post »RobbieTLHughie
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:44amI ordered two, this is like the lottery!
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:57amAwesome.
Report Post »DantheDog
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 2:55pmDang, I needed that laugh! Thanks
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:29pmSAWBUCK, It’s really been one of those days, even worse than the fifth Monday of the week. So, many thanks for that laugh. Good thing that I was sitting sideways to my desk with my feet propped up. Didn’t get too much wet, but the cats scattered at warp speed.
Report Post »CA Okie
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:36pmListening to B. Obummer lie some more to us. TV no match for .45, 230gr JHP- TV=0, Me=1
Report Post »contkmi
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:31amWhile I like the folding stock, I can pick up a few AR-15s at that price. And have enough left over for a shotgun and a .45 ACP. And ammo.
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:34amGot that right
A good Colt AR should run between 8 and 12 hundred dollars.
Report Post »1 K rnds $236
Arm the whole family for that price!
Landon410
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:56amjust get some kel-tec SU16C’s
Report Post »$500 give or take.
http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/su-16c-2/
AR style receiver, AK style gas block
historyguy48
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:26amLovely piece. Didn’t see it on the cheaperthandirt.com website. I was wondering how much this little toy would set you back. I especially like the heavier caliber bullet, and the sound suppressor was a nice touch also.
Report Post »Landon410
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:31amhaha i looked there too!
actually I was looking for and FN SCAR.
20 round mag filled with .308, and a small herd of deer = several full freezers!
Report Post »subic
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:58amH&K and Imbrel are just as good for 2/3 less price
Report Post »Landon410
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:07ami know h&k doesnt make a civilan SCAR style rifle, I do like their SL8-6 though, stll $2,500 and just a 223
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:50pmLANDON410, FN makes the SCAR, and they are releasing a semi auto version of the SCAR-H as the SCAR 17S soon. You can look that up on the net for some reviews. One I just read a short time ago listed the rifle at $3,000. A better deal as far as I am concerned, and no gas impingement either. I can do away with the suit case anyway.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 5:53pmLANDON410, My bad, misunderstood your post, and had no reason to correct you about FN.
Report Post »jcldwl
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:25amOh man I want one of these. Gonna go look it up now to see the price.
Report Post »Listen_then_think
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:24amBenefits of a gas operated AR???? You mean like the burnt powder that builds up in the chamber and causes the gun to jam? Unless they built it so loosely like an AK that it will take a while. Why in the world wouldn’t they make it a piston operated cycle mechanism? I don‘t particularly like AR’s. Just my opinion.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:00amYour ‘bias’ shows through clearly. While Piston operated systems have many advantages, they also have many disadvantages. First of which is their are not standards for piston systems. Each manufacturer makes their own setup and has their own parts. This makes manufacturing and repairs far far more expensive….. They are also immensely more complex. This makes it inherently difficult to create a system that can break down into a brief case.
And your ‘jam’ issue is no more a design problem than an improper maintenance problem.
Report Post »Landon410
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:13amthere is a reason camel jockys are still using AKs made in the 60‘s and 70’s….
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 10:29amFor about $1500 you can buy a Ruger 556 that is gas piston operated. Not direct impingement. Stays clean and cool similar to the operation of an AK. weights about 8-9 lbs
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:23amSomeone send the link to my wife for Christmas eh?
Report Post »historyguy48
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:35amStand in line.
Report Post »McNamara
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:19amIt’s a mere $5616.00. I could buy several firearms for that price…
Report Post »cloudsofwar
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:50amthat leaves me out.
Report Post »Landon410
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:19amits an FN SCAR rifle thats modular…… not that special
Report Post »its been used in service since 2009, and I know people that own them
NO_MORE_OBAMA
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:18amTo quote Will Smith “I gotta get me one of these”
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:41amWill Smith can afford it. I can’t possibly justify 6 grand for that thing…
Report Post »McNamara
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:17amOH Boy! I would love that in a .308 package!!!
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:31amsarcasm or ignorance?
“We developed [Paratus 16] in 7.62NATO/.308 caliber, and the AR platform, being so popular, led us to stay with a direct gas operated system. “
Report Post »jettson
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:15amThats cool can I have one???? I want to rule the world to.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:21amAgreed.
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 9:42am“If the enemy is in range, so are you.” — Infantry Journal
Report Post »drphil69
Posted on August 10, 2012 at 11:01am@lel2007 –
Not true. The hoods coming out of the city mostly carry 9mm. I doubt most of them could hit a person at 20 yards. This rifle could easily reach out 200 yards with the short barrel.
Your quote is only meaningful when the enemy is similarly equipped and trained. I doubt the snipers in Afganistan were worried about their targets shooting back.
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