Blaze Political Analyst Will Cain in Heated CNN Debate on AZ Sheriff Scandal
- Posted on February 19, 2012 at 10:33pm by
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The Blaze’s Will Cain appeared on a CNN panel with LZ Granderson and Don Lemon Sunday to discuss the resignation of Mitt Romney’s Arizona Campaign Co-Chair Paul Babeu, who stepped down Saturday amidst a scandal involving allegations from a gay lover that the sheriff had threatened to deport him if he went public with their relationship. Babeu is seeking the GOP nomination for an Arizona Congressional seat. The sheriff stepped down from Romney’s campaign Saturday, denying the allegations but acknowledging that he is a gay man and will still run for Congress.
Cain called out Granderson Sunday for making comments that Cain believe generalized a hypocrisy in the GOP in regards to sexuality.
“I think these stories should be looked at as individual circumstances and judged as individual circumstances. LZ, by your own standard, I don’t know how you apply a broad generalization to an entire party. I don’t know how you can do that by your own standard,” Cain said.
Mediaite video of the tense exchange:
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father_of_10
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 11:19amI live in AZ next to this county. I am shocked that this didn’t come up when he ran for sheriff or at any other time recently when he had been in the news. I think his political propects in Pinal County are done.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 1:45pmYes and that’s what liberals wanted, cow down to the liberal progressive machine
Report Post »jdog777
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 6:55pmBabeu is part of the Republican Progressive machine. There are plenty of true conservatives to fill any void that Babeu leaves.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:18pm.
Report Post »Nobody cares if he’s gay.
I’m worried that the country is burning,
as long as his lover isn’t Barney Frank, who cares?
Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 11:04amUuhmm… He said FLAME.. Where’s the outrage? And the only attack on the gay community is coming from the left int he form of marginalization once again. If it is “gay” marginalize it and make it feel lesser than all else. Then try to get it to vote for you as it’s savior. Free thyself my gay brethren.. Get away from these alinsky radicals who will kill you if they get their power. They only want your vote and have no respect for you and your individual liberty. (see: all other marxist regimes)
Report Post »welovetheUSA
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:43amDoes Barney Frank ring a bell…………..
Report Post »ClunkerT
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 11:06amWhen is Will Cain going to remind the American citizens of Barack Hussein Obama’s crack cocain and bi-sexual relationship with Larry Sinclair. The left should not have a problem with the bi-sexual encounter with Larry Sinclair, so why not cover the story, the progressives would be praising Will for digging into this adventure by the President, it shows he is truly a progressive in practice. Just think, we have elected our first crack head and bi-sexual POTUS. Now that is progress!!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 1:43pmDusseldorf held a parade, which was seen by 3 million Germans in person or on TV. Then there are the photos of the floats.
These floats are not very flattering of the Democrats (Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton or Obama).
Bill Clinton was shown standing behind the Statue of Liberty & groping her breast. So apropo!
Obama was labeled “The Loser” on a float. there were 2 other floats that showed that showed Obama as a poor leader.
America does not look better as the result of the election of Obama & the elevation of the Democrats. au contraire.
Report Post »Atilla
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:32amNelbert,
Report Post »What broad generalization? I haven’t seen a heterosexual parade that glorifies the sanctity of marriage and the fidelity of two people living in peace for the pupose of procreation and the raising of a family lately. What I observe is the decadent morality of the human specie glorifing drug addict entertainers and legislation to force school districts into hiring transgender teachers. Then there is the anti bullying agenda that is designed to enforce the notion that homosexuals are “oppressed” along with all the rest of the classified minority population. Fat will be the next classified oppressed segment of society. Classified society is a Karl Marx special and many Americans are lapping it up.
woodcellar
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:20amWith this guy’s resume the Dems are all most duty bound to vote for him. Tee Hee.
Report Post »Guitar Master
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:12amzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Should anyone be surprised by this?
It’s just another example of a dysfunctional person trying to enter the surreal life of Washington politics. And then you wonder why our government is so screwed up?
Report Post »schroeder123
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:43amI’d vote for a family man to represent my area. I could not trust the sheriff to teach my son right from wrong. Sorry bud….Commi or Democrat..your out.
Report Post »Crush_Liberalism
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:10amCommi or Democrat? Hard to tell the difference anymore…
Report Post »antisocial21
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 11:31pmWow, that is pure discrimination. I don’t care who you are what beliefs you may hold, you cannot discriminate a man like this sheriff or anyone else just because they are gay? Who gives a bleeping &^%& what sexual orientation this sheriff might have. Also your comment about right or wrong has no logic supporting it, are you seriously suggesting that this sheriff does not have the moral sentiment to judge between right or wrong because he is homosexual? All you “social conservatives” claim don’t tread on me, yet you are so quick to tread on homosexuals and their lifestyle. How is that conservative? How is discrimination and controlling other people’s lifestyle conservative? This is tyranny, not freedom. Let people live life they want to live it and you live life the way you want to live it. Don’t tread on others.
Report Post »go2gym
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:28amGay and Republican. Black and Republican. Hispanic and Republican. All must be destroyed by the media. People of those groups, and others, are only allowed to be Democrat.
Report Post »timeout
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:42amSurely the people of Arizona knew that Babeu is gay. And there is something to say about not gramming your “ways” down everyone’s throat. This is an election in Arizona. Not our business.
Report Post »bree001
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:10amI am a Christian Conservative and I believe in the bible and that it is a sin to live that life style. According to the bible is it not a sin to have a sexual relationship outside of marriage, yet how many people hold jobs that have done this. My point is that we all sin, however when we let someone encourage others to commit these sins that’s when we need to draw the line. It sickens me when I see such hateful words towards a group of people, hate the sin not the sinner. We need to pray for these people, specially for the ones who are rapping our children and trying to get them to live their sinful lifestyle. It’s okay to hate this sin, but let’s be careful about hating people who commit sins like you and I . I know some of them go beyond what we consider small or normal sin and it‘s okay to hate that sin and call them out on it and to make sure they don’t harm others specially our children. http://www.brendasblog7.com/home-page
Report Post »spikebu
Posted on February 22, 2012 at 12:40amBree, gotta tell you, I‘m not sure I could count the acts of murder I have committed today in God’s eyes. If you are angry, you have already committed murder. My frustration level was low, so I angered easily. I murdered each of my children at least once today. Between the media and the politicians it was a slaughterfest. I‘m pretty sure I’m okay on adultery today because I haven‘t left my house and I don’t have TV. My point is, without the intercession of Christ, I would have been dead to God many times over in just one day. The wages of sin are death. The wages of a “small or normal” sin are not a little less death. Sin is sin and the penalty is equal. We all sin daily (some of us while shaking a fist at God in defiance). That’s why Jesus was necessary. I believe the only “unforgivable sin” would be unbelief (disbelief?). Rating sin leads to judgement. That‘s God’s job. I understand what you were saying, and I think we are saying much the same thing. We just need to tread cautiously when contemplating other people’s sins. My daughter wants me to french braid her hair, so I am off to commit even more murder. Don’t worry. I have been forgiven!
Report Post »coalfired
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:36amThe only standard the “Left” has is a “double standard”!
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:20amReal leadership is so hard to find nowadays.
Report Post »Atilla
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:48amFor all of those who belive that the homosexual lifestyle “is no big deal” I would suggest the reading of the “Homosexual Manifesto” of 1971 or 72. This is their own agenda where they describe “sodomizing your children in the government schools.” Homosexual activist are promoters of a lifestyle via parades and exhibitions of defiance of the norm. It is not about marraige folks it is about “normalization” of an abnorma lifestyle. Period. Read their own agenda in explicit language.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:05am@Atilla
glad to see other blaze posters that speak the truth, and have not gorged themselveso on the PC Koolaid.
I will not support or vote for any homosexual. They are perverts hell-bent on destroying marriage, the American family, and the nation.
Report Post »nelbert
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:08amAtilla, you didn’t get the message from this article, did you?
Report Post »“I don’t know how you apply a broad generalization to an entire party. I don’t know how you can do that by your own standard.”
There may be some homosexuals who support a radical agenda, but as Cain here said of the Republican party, it’s wrong to judge an entire segment of the population by the extremism of a very few.
marion
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:49pmRANGERP, I didn’t see the Sherriff going around doing gay rights and making any deal whatsoever that he was gay. If we want to talk about double standard, he is acting as human and normal as each and every gay man should, he didn’t flaunt it, he didn’t speak out for gay rights, he wasn’t trying to say gays should be able to use the term married, but he didn’t deny it or lie about it when confronted with allegations at the same time. So essentially we are going to be the hipocrites that throw a conservative (by all accounts) out of the “party” because he is different?
Here’s the bottom line. We all are with sin, he will have to deal with God on that when the day comes. In the meantime we have a Sherriff that actually does an outstanding job keeping our borders safe and his political views are in keeping this country safe and strong, and he isn‘t any kind of a special treatment advocate because I think he believes they aren’t deserved, either. Given as old as he is and how long he has been Sherriff and on TV and respected for what he does, I think he should do just fine.
Besides, I thought the Right was supposed to be the ones that weren’t prejudiced against things like this, just another person, right?
Report Post »spikebu
Posted on February 22, 2012 at 1:43amThis is not a man you would ever find prancing down the street in a bustier and high heels. This is a guy you’d go shooting with and learn from. It was not his intent to be known as gay, because that’s not how he defines himself. His choices are between him and God. Just remember, Babeu didn’t make it an issue, his ex did. He didn’t run as “The Gay Sheriff”. He ran on border security and he’s done a damn fine job. He’s better than Joe Arpaio (Sheriff Joe). Joe has gone from fighting the system to working it. I’ve voted for him for nearly 30 years. Not this time. Sheriff is the most powerful position in your county. Only they can trump the Feds. Consider well. Support your local Sheriff!
Report Post »Recceman90
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:46amIt’s kind of funny, all the Gay people I know are Conservatives…but then again I avoid the flamboyant type people…so using a Stereo type, if someone is respectable they are conservative!
Report Post »Miami
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:38amThe fact is that liberals can not get past their bigotry. They see racial or sexual minorities as their property and when they stray, they must be destroyed.
Making the story about sex, when if true, the statements from the former partner consist of a crime. Brushing aside the criminal act, lets get to the Sheriff’s sexuality and their lies the hypocrisy.
When called on it, the “mediator” rushes to the defense of the Liberal.
Liberal = Hypocrite
Report Post »antisocial21
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 11:35pmyes, but it’s shame that some so called “conservatives” are trashing this sheriff because he is gay. We need more gay conservatives in this country, not more gay liberals. These “social conservatives” are alienating what already is a crucial voting bloc by claiming that being is a sin and such.
Report Post »suz
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 4:16amthat wasn’t what i would call “heated” but, as always, two against one — if you’re the one — you won’t get the last word.
Report Post »asybot12
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 4:10amI am always amazed how less 10% of the population in any group (ie gays, Sharia types corrupting the justice system, illegal immigrants etc. can yell and scream about discrimination and although I agree with most of the T-party philosophy I am at times frustrated with their passive reactions. Damn-it guys kick the garbage can just do not kick it over!
Report Post »R.A. Bullseye
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 1:38amI like and support Paul Babeu. I really don’t care what he does in his private life as far as who he sleeps with. He is a good person and an honorable man.
Report Post »TotalCredence
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:54amAmen!
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:08amR.A. Bullseye
Did you see his advertising on adam-4-adam. This man is a sexual pervert (like all homosexualst), who threatened to depart his gay lover.
This small group of deviants spread disease, molest childrent, and recruit the young. They destroy nations.
Every nation in the history of the world that has accepted homosexuality as normal has soon their after crumbled.
Report Post »ShyMan
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:12amHe’s a pervert.
Report Post »nelbert
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:33amTo RANGERP:
You make some scathing accusations about a broad swath of the population. Did you just not get Cain’s message from the article, or do you simply disagree with it?
I was surprised by Babeu’s explicit postings – not because of his homosexuality, but because it showed such profound ignorance in posting something like that when you’re a controversial figure involved in politics. (What went through his head?)
You call homosexuals perverts and child molesters. How do you explain Brian David Mitchell, who abducted and Elizabeth Smart? How about Josef Fritzl, the Austrian man who held his daughter as a captive in his basement for 24 years and had 7 children by her?
Report Post »One could go on and on, but the point is that there are ample examples of debauched behavior by heterosexuals to nullify any blanket, stereotyped notion that homosexuals are somehow morally evil.
You state, “Every nation in the history of the world that has accepted homosexuality as normal has soon their after crumbled.” Really? The Roman Empire “held on” for nearly 5 centuries (not counting the Republic). China had accepted homosexual rulers back as as far as the 16th and 11th centuries BC. I’m not claiming their longevity is due to homosexuality, but I think it safe to say that it didn’t foretell their collapse.
timeout
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 9:45amOf course it is correct to note the leadership, and love of this country that Babeu has exhibited. His personal life, unless he is sex offender or abuser, is none of our business. Do we offer this same understanding and “forgiveness” to Newt Grinrich?
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 10:09am@timeout
Excellent Point!
FAR TOO MANY Will Only Choose To “Understand” and “Forgive” If Doing So Will Further Their Agenda = HYPOCRISY!
NEWT 2012
Report Post »AZSCOTTZ
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:07pmAlthough I do not live in Mr. Babeu’s county his actions in public mirrored my desires for a secure border and, I support his efforts. This state drastically needs every outspoken conservative right now. I hope Pinal county has a good alternative if the citizens cannot support Paul any longer.
Report Post »texanpatriot
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 1:32amMy concern has always been the homosexuals themselves – some evidence:
Report Post »Medical researchers have known for many years that the “homosexual lifestyle” is a very disease-ridden lifestyle. What you and I might call a ‘filthy’ lifestyle as well as a deadly lifestyle.
In the Journal of the American Medical Association found that the anal cancer rate for homosexuals is way above normal, maybe as high as 50 times normal. And a 1997 New England Journal of Medicine study again drew attention to the “strong association between anal cancer and male homosexual contact.” (The reason for the connection is that the lining of the anus, as opposed to the much thicker lining of the ******, is only a single cell in thickness, tears easily, and thus is an easy point of entry for viruses and bacteria.)
Another study found that anorectal sepsis, a potentially toxic bacterial infection, is 4 times more common in homosexual than heterosexual men.
And a September 2010 report from the Centers for Disease Control titled “HIV among Gay, Bisexual and Other Men Who Have Sex with Men (MSM)” noted: “Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV and are the only risk group in which new HIV infections have been increasing steadily since the early 1990s. And according to a CDC report released in November 2009, 63% of syphilis cases in this country were found in ****/bisexuals in 200
NOT A CRAZY
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 2:33amDid you miss the recent article that said there is an incurrable gonorhea now? It is predominately in the homosexual community.
Report Post »chalkdust
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 4:12amMy concern has always been with people who are concerned with with the gay communities well known high risk lifestyle, not out of compassion but pure disdain. Those people really scare me. Didn’t the Nazi propaganda machine pump out volumes about Jews being disease ridden, inferior low life’s to be held with complete disregard and disdain?
Report Post »Yes, I just rhetorically compared your summation of the health risks in the gay community to the Holocaust. Never thought I would write that. You are clearly concerned about gays “themselves”, as though they are your enemy, not merely as a lifestyle you don’t approve of and that smacks of hatred. I call it like I see it.
ShyMan
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 8:28amChalkdust
Nice try. He’s still a pervert.
It’s not a lifestyle. It’s a perversion.
Report Post »Collbuzz
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:48amIf being gay is no big deal, then screw who you wanna and leave us all out of it! NOBODY wants to read or hear about it, but funny how big a deal is made when it suits someone else’s agenda. YUK!!
Report Post »Idahosauce
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:03amI am so sick of this idea that the GOP or Conservatives are anti gay… I am as christian, right wing, conservative etc. ad nauseum as anyone can be and although I disagree with the gay orientation, it is their choice. I just don’t want to see the constant whining by the left and gays over their “rights” and all the political crap they load on our society. Screw who you want, just shut the hell up about it.
Report Post »I want the Sheriff to run for the GOP and promote conservative ideals.
HumbleMan
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:29amRight … who cares if he’s gay. Why is this an issue?
Report Post »SWLinPHX
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 1:18amSo then it’s okay if you say you “disagree” with someone being black, or left-handed or having green eyes? How can you “agree” or “disagree” with HOW SOMEONE IS BORN? Or, do you want to ignore this fact so that you have carte blanche to be prejudiced without being labeled a bigot? You can say you hate gay people, but don’t hide behind behind falsehoods that it is a choice just to ease your own conscience. Just say you hate gay people (or blacks, or Jews, or whatever) and be man enough to own it. I am so sick of cowards hiding behind this false assertion.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 2:50amSWLINPHX, all you ignoramuses who lump black civil rights with supposedly “gay” rights are about as far off as the east is from the west. There is neither comparisons nor similarities. Blacks are who they are because they were born that way. Gays were not, but chose that aberrant life style, and many choose to promote it as a special class. The only class they are is a special class that is bound for Hell on a train named FAST, but like everything else God gave man, He also gave him a free will, meaning people can choose to go to Hell. They do it every day. It will be the worst experience of their lifetime, worse still – it lasts for an eternity.
Gays can take their lifestyle and shove it where they shove everything else. Just don’t parade it around me, nor try to force either your lifestyle or agenda upon me, as you might find yourself eating something you don’t like. Plain and simple.
Report Post »Dstarr55
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 3:01amSWL, Your premise is wrong and therefore so are your conclusions. Not everyone believes people are born that way. The only so-called evidence to that theory is studies that are done by left leaning institutions looking to confirm their personal beliefs. I happen to believe as you do but I at least recognize the fact this is not a foregone conclusion to some. Your own prejudice is in believing your conclusion is the only one, much like a global warming advocate that stamps his feet and says the debate is over. No, it’s not. I would argue why I believe homosexuality is from birth, but to deny someone else their view, who can also argue why they believe otherwise, is just as destructive. I think this attitude is why debate on an issue becomes heated and uncivil. Understand many people do not endorse homosexual lifestyles but do not hate the homosexual – I don’t think that makes them bad people and I don’t think that makes them a bigot. There are true homophobic people in this world, don’t lessen its meaning by painting everyone who doesn’t agree with you in such harsh terms.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:59pmThe media would like you to believe that if people do not approve of gay sex that they are anti-gay. This is not true.
I do not approve of pre-marital sex, but that does not mean I’m anti-single people.
But, as usual the media wants us to focus on anything but…
Report Post »the fact that Obama is a totalitarian tyrant who is stripping us of our rights every day.
SWLinPHX
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 1:20amSorry, apples & oranges. You are saying you do not “approve” of black people or disabled people? Please be sure your statements work the same way when you substitute any other way someone is BORN (including their brains hypothalamus).
Report Post »chalkdust
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 6:22amSorry, it’s not an apples to orange comparison. Premarital sex is not an ethnic group. It is an act, not a person. Obviously the poster did not come close to say or insinuate they do not approve of black people or the disabled. Not one study or experiment has proven a person is born with a sexual preference. Some show possible biological links to ones eventual sexual preference but nothing conclusive yet. And they stress that there are many non biological factors that lead to a persons eventual sexual choice. So saying they are born gay as though it was proven science is actually just your opinion. Science by consensus is pseudo science. Being gay is not the same as being a particular ethnicity, at least to reasonable people. It is a disservice to the gay community and civil rights movement to falsely classify them as an ethnicity or special group. They’re just people. And trying to force someone, who’s core values is that homosexuality is wrong, to not live and let live but to embrace it is clearly wrong. Ironically, it is not Christians and Jews who are trying to force others to embrace their lifestyle as is commonly portrayed in secular pop culture. We don’t have the thought police yet or do we?
Report Post »semihardrock
Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:46pmThe Whole Democratic Communist Party is designed to make “broad generalizations” in order to confuse their OWN political party into re-electing them…over and over and over again!
to keep them on the plantation!
Report Post »Miami
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 7:44amVery good and true
Report Post »neverending
Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:44pmSaw the interview – thought Cain did a good job. My guess would be that babeu will end his campaign by the end of this upcoming week. If and I say if his boyfriend/lover or whatever he was is an illegal he may just be stepping down from his Sheriff position as well. The full truth always comes out!!
Report Post »USAMEDIC3008
Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:23pmSomebody has to take Barny Franks place in DC
Report Post »HumbleMan
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:32amBarney has other issues … like being brain-dead. His gay-ness is between him and God … it’s not our judgement.
USAMEDIC3008
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 1:10amOOHH I think he knew what he was doing when Hin and Dodd
Report Post »distroyed the houseing market
Razorhunters
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 6:55ambarney is a dam criminal and should be tarred and feathered.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:21pm“Blaze Political Analyst” is a title akin to “Flat Earth Society Cartographer”.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:25pmmessage from your stomach………………….kindly remove head from anus tapeworm complaining of over crowding
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:37pmpsycho-the blaze guy had no clue what was going and neither do you
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:44pm@Steelhead—-
Report Post »psycho-the blaze guy had no clue what was going and neither do you.
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Mirror Mirror.
Rayblue
Posted on February 19, 2012 at 11:54pmFlat humor from the square.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:00amActually, “Blaze Political Analyst” is equal to “Glenn Beckbot Brain-Dead Lackey” (just like you Blazers). My apologies to the Flat Earth Society.
Report Post »82dAirborne
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:06am@Broke – but you are still here. Hmmm Broker a “beckbot!!”
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:16ambik – the blaze guy should go back to being a phrenologist and examine the lumps on your hairy noggin, and dude get a haircut
Report Post »Rayblue
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 12:20amDon’t worry broker…He already said he wouldn’t deport you.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on February 20, 2012 at 3:01amBROKER, you ware two hats, a simpleton and a simple azz. Get your head out of your azz, read a few good books like, Liberty and Tyranny, Ameritopia, and The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness. Before you step permanently off the deep end, get a life and read some truth. Amazing what it will do for you.
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