‘Bloody Massacre’: Syrian Forces Slaughter Hundreds in City Assault, Activists Say
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A Syrian woman who said she was injured in shelling by the Syrian government forces stands at her home in the city of Homs, Feb. 1, 2012. Activists said the government unleashed a deadly barrage on the city before dawn Saturday, Feb. 4, 2012. (AP)
BEIRUT (AP) — Syrian forces unleashed a barrage of mortars and artillery on the battered city of Homs for hours before dawn on Saturday, sending terrified residents fleeing into basements and killing more than 200 people in what appeared to be the bloodiest episode in the nearly 11-month-old uprising, activists said.
The government denied the assault. It said the reports are part of a “hysterical campaign” of incitement by armed groups against Syria, meant to be exploited at the U.N. Security Council as it prepares to vote on a draft resolution backing an Arab call for President Bashar Assad to give up power.
With Syria growing increasingly chaotic, Western and Arab countries have stepped up their push for a U.N. resolution to pressure Assad. A vote was scheduled for Saturday, but negotiations were continuing to the last minute as Russia, a strong ally of Syria, signaled it would veto any call for Assad’s removal.
In a blunt warning to Washington, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Saturday that if a resolution is put to a vote without taking Russia’s opinion into account it will only lead to “another scandal” at the Security Council.
French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe countered that after the Homs bloodshed – which he called a “crime against humanity” – “those who block the adoption of such a resolution are taking a grave historical responsibility.”
Tunisia decided to expel Syria’s ambassador in response to the “bloody massacre” in Homs and “no longer recognizes” the Assad regime, said an official in the president’s office, speaking on condition of anonymity in line with government policy. Angry Syrians stormed their embassies in Berlin, London, Athens, Cairo and Kuwait city, clashing with guards and police and – in Cairo – setting fire to part of the embassy.
Hours after the Homs assault eased, security forces in the Damascus suburb of Daraya opened fire Saturday on a funeral procession for victims of a shooting a day earlier, killing seven people, activists said.
In this citizen journalism image provide by the Local Coordination Committees in Syria and released on Wednesday Feb. 2, 2012, a Syrian rebel stands next to a destroyed government forces tank as they replace on it Syrian revolution flags, in Homs, central Syria. Syrian forces have detained and tortured children as young as 13 as the government tries to crush an uprising that began nearly 11 months ago, Human Rights Watch said Friday as fresh clashes erupted between regime troops and rebels in the country's south. (AP Photo/Local Coordination Committees in Syria) EDITORIAL USE ONLY, NO SALES, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS IS UNABLE TO INDEPENDENTLY VERIFY THE AUTHENTICITY, CONTENT, LOCATION OR DATE OF THIS HANDOUT PHOTO
There were signs that the bombardment in Homs, Syria’s third largest city, was in response to moves by army defectors to solidify their control in several neighborhoods. There were reports that defectors set up new checkpoints in several areas, and two activists from Homs said defectors attacked a military checkpoint in the Khaldiyeh district Thursday night and captured 17 soldiers. The activists spoke on condition of anonymity to protect themselves from retaliation.
If defector activity was the spark, the assault signals a new willingness by the regime to unleash more devastating force against the dissidents. The defectors, part of a force called the Free Syrian Army, have grown increasingly bold in attacks on the military and attempts to take overt control in pro-opposition areas.
Khaldiyeh, a mainly Sunni neighborhood in the mixed city, took the brunt of the assault. Residents described a hellish night of ceaseless shelling that sent them fleeing to lower floors and basements of buildings.
“We were sitting at home and the mortars just started slamming into buildings around us,” said Mohammad, a Khaldiyeh resident. “There was nothing that prompted it, not even protests … people are terrified today,” he added by telephone.
Mohammad, who like other Syrians in Homs declined to be further identified, said the shelling started shortly before midnight and lasted until the early morning hours Saturday. He said residents were out Saturday inspecting the damage, looking for relatives. “It’s a catastrophe, no other way to describe it.”
Online video by activists showed chaotic scenes in a makeshift clinic set up in what appeared to be a Khaldiyeh mosque, the room filled with wounded men with gashes and broken limbs being bandaged. Several dead bodies were shown. In another video, fire ravaged a house that had been shelled, as people desperately poured water on the blaze.
The videos could not be independently verified.
Residents said most shelling came from a military installation west of Khaldiyeh and Alawite-dominated neighborhoods to the east. Syria’s Alawite minority, who belong to an offshoot of Shiite Islam, forms the backbone of Assad’s regime and the military leadership.
The government denied the assault and said corpses shown in amateur videos were of people kidnapped by “terrorist armed groups” who filmed them to portray them as victims of the alleged shelling.
Two main opposition groups, the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and the Local Coordination Committees, said the death toll in Homs was more than 200 people and included women and children in mortar shelling that began late Friday. More than half of the killings – about 140 – were reported in the Khaldiyeh neighborhood, they said.
“This is the worst attack of the uprising, since the uprising began in March until now,” said Rami Abdul-Rahman, the head of the Observatory, which tracks violence through contacts on the ground.
The reports could not be independently confirmed.
Homs is a hotbed of dissent to Assad’s regime and is known to shelter a large number of army defectors. The city has seen several crackdowns by security forces but many parts of it remain outside of government control.
Ammar, a resident of the Bab Tadmur district of Homs, said the real death toll exceeded 330, and hundreds of others were wounded. He did not elaborate.
“A few more nights like this one and Homs will be erased from the map,” said the distraught man by telephone. “We are being massacred, what is the Security Council still waiting for?”
The Syrian National Council, Syria’s main opposition group, put the toll at more than 220.
It called on Russia to stop its “shameful intransigeance” at the U.N. and for the world to take action to stop the bloodshed.
Assad is trying to crush the revolt with a sweeping crackdown since March. But neither the government nor the protesters are backing down. The opposition, which began with peaceful protests, has turned more and more to arms, and clashes with the military have thrown many parts of the country into relentless violence.
This month, the regime has seemed to have stepped up its use of force to stamp out the defectors. Last week, the military launched a heavy assault in the suburbs east of Damascus after dissidents showed greater control there. Three days of fighting ensued in residential areas, killing several hundred, until the regime appeared to have silence the dissidents for now.
The U.N. said in December that that more than 5,400 people have been killed since March, but it has been unable to update its count for weeks due to the chaos. Hundreds more have been killed since that tally was announced.
The U.N. Security Council is scheduled Saturday to take up the Syria resolution, and diplomatic efforts continued to the last minute to try to avert a Russian veto.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton was to meet Saturday with Russia’s Lavrov on the sidelines of a security conference in Berlin.
Lavrov said the latest version of the resolution resolves “quite a number of things which were important to us.” But, he said, it makes too few demands of anti-Assad armed groups, and Moscow remains concerned about whether it prejudges the outcome of a national dialogue among political forces in Syria that it is trying, with little success, to arrange.
The U.S. and its partners have ruled out military action but want the global body to endorse an Arab League plan that calls on Assad to hand power over to his vice president.
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Comments (146)
FreedomPurveyor
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:21pmI think we have seen this scenario play out enough times, especially recently, to know what is going to happen.
Two things are certain, no matter what we do: it will not end in democracy, and it will not end in Syria becoming our friend.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:47pmWe never gave Syria a chance to be a friend. So, that’s an outrageous statement on its face.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_involvement_in_the_Gaza_War
Look at U.S. involvement in Operation Orchard.
The U.S. has alienated virtually every nation in Levant with its immoral and unconditional support of the rogue nation, Israel. These acts are acts of aggression. No way to sugar coat the facts.
Report Post »ThemDemsLie2much
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:57pmJerk, how do you live with it? What this Country is doing to you is terrible. If I were you, i’d leave this place and move to Syria where someone will treat you like you long to be treated! Don’t blame you one bit. Let me know if I can drive you to the airport. That is if your not already on the NO FLY LIST. Sincerely: Pesky American.
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:59pmfrom reading all the mid east stuff, this is going to be a foot note. War with iran is so close. Things are about to change, and change quickly; I will pray that I am wrong.
Report Post »rs9
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 1:14pmYou gotta love ole Basher A## Wad, and the religion of peace
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 1:17pmIshka4me, like Iraq, the war with Iran will be no accident. WMD’s are still the excuse. Jews for Israel, all of whom have held high office in our government, wrote about it as far back as 1996. They made no secret that their intentions were for Israel. American’s have been, are being, duped by a complicit pro-Israel media.
Here it is, ” A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm.” Look at the authors and see where they were prior to our Iraq war. Look at the results. Remember that this study for Israel fell on the heels of what became known as, “The Wolfowitz Doctrine.”
Report Post »http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm
The_Jerk
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 1:22pmAn interesting line taken from this study: “Israel can become self-reliant only by, in a bold stroke rather than in increments, liberalizing its economy, cutting taxes, relegislating a free-processing zone, and selling-off public lands and enterprises — moves which will electrify and find support from a broad bipartisan spectrum of key pro-Israeli Congressional leaders, including Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich. “
Report Post »ThemDemsLie2much
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 2:26pmJerk, I’d say it exist because they do it in public for all to see. Beat your wives and screw your camel.
Report Post »Yep, thats all on the net too! Jerk.
13th Imam
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 2:32pmCrapper just reaffirmed that the muslim Brotherhood ,, a largely secular group of moderate muslims,, will be able to sieze ( I mean take control )of the reins of Syria when THE BASHER is done bashing his people.And is then forced out, like Mubarek. Another future link in the Caliphate Chain.
Report Post »Kiba
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 2:48pmOh well, I guess thats what happens when your a Syrian Muslim huh? Too bad for you all. Why should we care? When my son was in Iraq when it first started they killed like 40 enemie fighters a day, and 30 to 35 of them were Syrians so who cares about them, I certainly dont. If were lucky they will kill theirselves all out!
Report Post »HoggKilla
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 3:35pmAgreed 100%.
Report Post »tgthompson
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 5:41pmThe Jerk sounds like a Nazi, a hater of the Jews. I guess He wants to gas them.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:39am@ Jerk
Report Post »You said “We never gave Syria a chance to be a friend” really ??????
Do you remember when Obama appointed an ambassador to Syria without the knowledge of senate & congress , what was that for ?
Do you remember how many times Hillary stated that the Syrian president is a reformist , what was that for ?
+ we don’t need to be friends with Syria , the homeland of all kinds of radical muslim terrorist organizations .
cuinsong
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 2:54amHay JERK, Muslims have always hated Israelis just because they are Jews and have always refused to make peace. You always blame others for your hate and never live in peace with your neighbors! What is interesting to me is how long they have been able to get away with the hypocrisy! Muslims in general are a bunch of idiots who’s only goal is to mistreat women and kill infidels! They want the world to bow down to their reticules religion or die! I could go on but the bottom line is I don’t ever want to get along with this kind psychopathic society. They’re NUTS!!! and You’re NUTS!!! I wrote this song for your kind called
Report Post »“That’s not right” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_10789999
jamestoms
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 7:49amYou are right on. This is Islam, great people, butcher their own. Perhaps Allah wills it!
Report Post »johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 8:06amHey guys,
It‘s all pretty simple if you apply the Richard Daley priciples of governance to Obammie’s Presidency.
When a “political special interest group” like the Iranian mullahs comes to you with promises of huge caches of “Internet Contributions” during your 2008 campaign, you “stay bought” during the summer 2009 and watch the Iranian middle class die in the streets of Tehran. Then you refuse to intercede in Syria, a special child of Iran. The you turn Iraq over to the mullahs. Then you deliver a fully-intact drone; and, you refuse to take any independent action against Iran. That’s “The Chicago Way,” pumped-up on steroids for international operations. Obammie’s just a corrupt Chicago-bred politican WHO REMEMBERS DALEY’S FIRST COMMANDMENT: Reward your friends and punish your enemies.
Class dismissed!
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 3:11pmMy guess is that the rebels in this case might actually be looking for a Western-style form of democracy.
If these guys were more Caliphate people, they‘d be supporting Syria’s government, right? Oh, and Barrack Obama would have condemned the government’s actions and sent troops to help topple the government.
I think Syria is trying to flip the opposite way from its neighbors.
Report Post »American Mensch
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:16pmI am coming to the conclusion that 99% of the people commenting on this story are absolute racists. The only other time I have read such hateful and nasty language would be the way the Nazis described killing Jews. I am embarrassed to say I share the same species as you dirtbags. I don’t like calling names, but I do call them as I see them. All of you are sad and loathsome for taking such delight in the deaths of these poor people. Where the hell did any of you go to church? What Bible did you read from? How can you could say such horrible things? To call it unchristian is an understatement. A person doesn’t even have to be religious to be appalled by the way you speak of the slaughter of the Syrian people.
Report Post »Some of you need to get a mirror and take a real hard look at yourselves, and ask yourselves; how could I allow my heart to turn so black?
Not one of you losers can look past a religious affiliation, and see the woman or the frightened and terrified child. They are ALL creatures of God like you and I. There is a German expression for the way you sickos take delight in the suffering of these brutalized Syrians, and that is schadenfreude.
I would hope if any of you ever faced adversity or tragedy in your lives, that even your worst enemy would have more compassion than any of you are capable of showing to these innocents.
Detroit paperboy
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:29pm@American wench
Report Post »Nope, your wrong, they are all future terrorists who would slit the throat of an infidel in a heartbeat… They are camelhumping, 7th century inbred freaks…they would kill you and your family , if you are a non muslim that is…. They can not and will not co exist with the rest of the world, and when they turn on each other , its a good thing…. cuz that means they’re not killin us for the moment… Extra butter on that popcorn please… Lets watch the show ; ))
Locked
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:35pmInternet anonymity brings out the worst of people. Much like hiding behind a uniform, a mask, or a hooded robe, you’ll see how people really feel.
Every time I hear someone say “we’re in a post-racism world“ or ”oh, the US is so civilized compared to the Middle East!” I hop online and read comments. Nope, racial and religious hatred are alive and well here in the US of A.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:53pmAmerican Mensch, I applaud your attempt, but many here have been misled and ill-informed by a media practicing the art of omission and the sin of commission. They are fundamentalists.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:54pmI have always wondered if it is the ‘worst’ of people, or the ‘true thoughts’ of people… I post things on here hoping to change a mind or two – who knows. Your frustration is clear and well communicated. I used to share some of the thoughts as the ‘worst’ folks on here but over time i have chaged my worldview based on the bible, love, freedom, and liberty. Just as there is hope for people who do not believe in God, so there is hope for people on here who say overly hatefull things
Report Post »ThemDemsLie2much
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 1:10pmMuslims like the way you think A.M. Makes it easier to slit your throat while your sleeping.
Report Post »Wake up bigot. Where “the hell” do you go to church?
The_Jerk
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 1:26pm“Muslims like the way you think A.M. Makes it easier to slit your throat while your sleeping.
Wake up bigot. Where “the hell” do you go to church?”
On its face, this statement would be hilarious if the author was not serious. How does this ignorance exist?
Report Post »Winkycat
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 1:31pmAMERICAN MENSCH:
Report Post »When you state “I am coming to the conclusion that 99% of the people commenting on this story are absolute racists” This is a sectarian issue not a racial one. Islam like Christianity, Buddhism and Hinduism have all the races in them, even Judaism is a multi racial faith. so the application that all Muslims belong to a particular race is absolutely wrong. Sectarian warfare has killed far more people than race based warfare.
AxelPhantom
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 1:33pmSome people were raised in an environment where hating non-Muslims was the thing to do.
Some people were raised in an environment where hating Muslims is the thing to do.
I see percentage wise, the results are about the same in the hate blindly catagory. Just goes to prove that people are people.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 3:25pmIt is a shame that the same muslims that danced when the WTC crashed down, are now expiring, Too Bad.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 3:39pmAxelPhantom, it may be anecdotal, but I encountered many people that initially had no opinion about muslims, more than a decade ago. Even after 9/11, they made the distinction between militant radicals and moderte muslims. But with time, certain patterns came to forefront and he distinction started to disappear.
When Erdogan explained, a few years back, that there is no such a thing as radical or moderate Islam, quite a few people saw it as confirmation of their suspicion that the moderate Islam is just a modus operandi,not a reflection of any moderate world view.
The prediction that if the Muslim Brotherhood and salafists take over that the minorities will be slaughtered on grand scale that the current events would pale in comparison, is likely correct.
Boku Haram is already slaughtering Christians in Nigeria on a daily basis. North Sudan seems to be getting on bandwagon and making infrequent testing-the-water war cries and if the seems to be no response, they’d attack the Christian/Animist south under any pretense they ‘ll come up with. The persecution of Copts in Egypt will gain in volume and speed. The wave won’t be contained within ME (or Central-Western Africa) only, it will spill over to other places that have either a muslim majority (like Malaysia) or a sizable minority (like Thailand, but also France).
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 5:57pmTO ISLAM
I feel sorry for your followers. They deserve to know the truth.
You are full of deceit, lies, suppression of women and men. You blind them with hate. You offer nothing but war, oppression, inequality. You kill innocent women, children and men. Charity is not on your list. You force your clergy to show no mercy to enemies. Christ asks us to have mercy and grace and even love for our enemy. Can you say the same? No, you cannot. You have brought NOTHING of value to the world. All you bring is misery, poverty and death. The poorest of the poor live in Islamic countries. You treat especially women with such hate, because a woman gave birth to Christ. There’s only hate and no love in you. You want world domination to enslave humanity. Your god Satan denies love, mercy, grace and forgiveness. You will be destroyed when Jesus will revenge on you and your followers for what you have and will do to God’s children. When people will know the truth they will leave you. You do not give freedom only shackles. You are a totalitarian, dictatorial system. Satan hates God’s children (Christians and Jews) and will stop at nothing to kill them Thank God he cannot touch Christians. Sure he can kill our body but our soul belongs to God. Things will get harder. But we will not despair. The Savior Jesus Christ is on our side. You are of Satan and his demons.
Report Post »Every follower of Islam, and many have already, has the opportunity just like everybody else to come to Jesus Christ.
BaconSlinger
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 6:14pmWell said American Mensch! God is love and I pray all that do not know him personally,will do so soon.
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 7:08pmStop worrying and learn to love the A-bomb.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 12:40am2X4
I have no doubt that there is something going on in the Muslim world that is very dangerous. However statements like “the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim” are blanket statements that are not only dangerous, but bear little difference from those in the Muslim faith who started spreading the ideology that “the only good infidel is a dead infidel” – or “America is the Great Satan”
We are products of our environment. They are a product of theirs and we are a product of ours. The results are the same, blanketed hate expressed in broad sweeping statements that resolve nothing and serve little purpose other than to further the egos of those who utter them.
When those American Muslims who have embraced our culture (yes, they do exist) would dare to stand against their bretheren hear those kind of statements from fellow citizens are they more likely or less likely to stand up? And then we turn around and say “where are the moderate Muslims? I guess there aren’t any!” It is hard to take a stand when both sides decry you as evil.
I have read posts that attack Catholics and Mormons with such vitrol that it practically oozes from the screen and it comes to mind….First they came for the Communists and I said nothing…..History has an aweful way of repeating itself.
BTW I have a son who just finished his second tour in Afg. trust me I know what we are up against. But if my other son deploys, you had all better start digging.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 1:08am2×4-cont
As for the Christians being slaughtered in the middle east, what chance do they have but for a Muslim to stand up for them, perhaps hide them in a hidden room in their basement? Does it sound familiar?
My grandmother stood for a Jew and she landed in Auschwitz. She never regretted it, but she escaped her fate only because a German in good standing with the Reich stood up for her. Back then, the only good Jew was a dead Jew, and the only good Pole, was a dead Pole. Do you see? Back then, the Russians hunted the Poles, the intelligencia, and the Socialists, the Germans hunted the Jew and Roma and Communists. In my grandmother’s words “everyone was killing everyone” Those who survived often did so because someone else was willing to stand up and say ENOUGH! There are good people in every group even when the vast majority are going with the flow.
It is the only chance for this world not to end with a nuke up their butts. Pulling troops out won’t solve it, electing a new President won’t solve it. It is always easier to place the blame on others, but we cannot control the actions of others. It begins and ends with us. Right now from what I am reading, I don’t hold out much hope.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:57amGet out of the way, the only good muslim is a dead one…. Sorry if that offends anyone, actually im not sorry !!!! ; ))
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:39am.
Report Post »We just need to stir the pot just right, so we can get them to “Kill the Crap” outta each other. So when it‘s our turn to Play War we won’t have to worry about Collateral Damage…..
American Mensch
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:49amGod, you are disgusting. Go crawl back under your hateful rock.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:18pm“God, you are disgusting. Go crawl back under your hateful rock.”
It is logic, not hate.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:28pm“It is logic, not hate.”
It’s hate wearing the mask of logic.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:37pm“It’s hate wearing the mask of logic.”
Emotion is the bane of logic. Sympathy and hate impede logic equally.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:40pm@locked
Report Post »Thats cool, i do hate people who stone women for being raped, i do hate people who kill children on school buses, i do hate people who cut the clitorises off young women, i do hate people who kill their daughters and be head their wives for some honor crap… So yes, hatred masked by logic … I aint maskin NOTHING…. they are despised and despicable sub humans… And they have earned all the hatred directed at them !!!
Locked
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:52pm@Detroit
“the only good muslim is a dead one”
The fact that you claim such a thing shows your true colors. Save your platitudes; when a Muslim woman is stoned to death after being raped, you think it’s a GOOD thing. When buses full of children explode, you think it’s GOOD if some are Muslim. When a woman is murdered by her family for honor… it‘s GOOD because she’s a Muslim.
There’s no logic to this. You said it yourself: the only good Muslim, in your view, is a dead one. That’s hatred, boyo, not logic.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:55pm@Freedom
“Emotion is the bane of logic. Sympathy and hate impede logic equally.”
Not going to deny that. However, I‘d posit it’s also our sympathy and emotion that keep us human. It’s hard to justify your position, because in the end we‘d be the country who kills everyone who we think won’t like us. Logically, that’s perfect. In reality, it makes us a totalitarian state full of mass-murderers.
Report Post »Kiba
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 3:11pmBingo!!!
Report Post »Kiba
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 3:36pmHey American Mensch, why dont you crawl back under Obamas bed? Go back to Rev. Wrights web-site will you?
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 3:50pmLocked, why is it that you always extend sympathy and emotions to the bona fide enemies but ….
Tell me what is your opinion on abortions?
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 7:11pmWe’ll be killing each other here soon.
Report Post »American Mensch
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:38amThe U.N. is an embarrassment. Russia is an abomination. And the world is full of cowards. This is the truth of this horrendous situation. How many more of these atrocities does the world need to witness before it says ENOUGH! I don’t care if these people are Arabs, and I don’t care that they are Muslim. I do care that they are innocent human beings, God’s creatures, and are being butchered in the most brazen fashion by a ruthless dictator and his henchmen. Men, woman, children, and babies are being slaughtered before our very eyes, and the world dithers. The U.N. makes speeches, and people are shot like dogs. They try to pass worthless resolutions to do absolutely nothing, and towns are being obliterated. People of conscience need to step up in governments around the world, and do something tangible to save these lives. It is obvious that the U.N. is going to do nothing for as long as possible, simply because they allow bad actors like Russia into the “Security Council”, who can veto anything that would hurt Assad and his precious government. I would call the U.N. a joke, but considering the amount of money we throw at these clowns, and what they are incapable of accomplishing, I’m not laughing. I am praying for these brutalized people and hope the rest of the world starts pulling their heads out of their collective butts. I am not optimistic, but I continue to hope.
Report Post »Kiba
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 3:24pmOMG , waaa waaa waaaaa. You and your ‘hope’ (sounds like someone else we all know) So ever hear of the definition of someone that sits around employing the same tactics as in Hope and expects different results? You said it yourself, the Usless Nations arent gonna change neither will the Russians or the Chineese so just who does that leave? And please dont say ‘the Europeans’ and make a bigger fool of yourself. The shape our country is in right now is proof of what will happen with pacifist at the helm like you with your hope and love. Why dont you hope in one hand and crap in the other and see wich one fills-up first? Hope is just fine untill it comes to the point that it turns into stupidity where it will blind you from whats really going on. Well do what you want Neville, Im going with Winston and Franklin. They wound up on the right side back then wouldnt you say? And as soon as we get the B.H.O. types outta-there we can with any luck and God willing get back on the right side again.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 4:54pmRussians know that if Assad is gone, the slaughter will more than quadruple. Instead of a few hundred people, there would be thousands of dead. Practically all Alawites, but also Christians, Druze, Yazidis, Ismailis, etc., etc.
You, AM, in the bout of your sanctimony, do not see where that what you want would lead.
Or would it make you happier if ten thousands were dead instead of a few hundred? Maybe tht is what you want and I misunderstood. You just hide it under a veneer of compassion–better than buying indulgences!
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:27amMay i please get extra butter on my popcorn…… Please !
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:41am.
Report Post »No! Moochell said it’ll make your butt big……..
FreedomPurveyor
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:23amNo matter how oppressive the Assad regime is, it is important to remember that this is not a fight about whether or not the people will be free. It is a fight about who gets to oppress who.
Report Post »Kiba
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 3:39pmCouldnt have said it better myself. Its the day two fools met over there. And who cares wich side wins.
Report Post »thegreatcarnac
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 5:46pmYou said it correctly…..you have had a moment of pure genius.
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:11amIslamic culture, as observed by Sir Winston Churchill, is a retrograde culture.
They will not move forward as a people until they divorce themselves from the chains of Islamic culture. Islam = DEATH.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:40amBin Laden boasted that “ they love death ” while we weak Western guys ” love life.” Just shows how truly sick these people are. And they boast of their love of death…
Report Post »Rechercar
Posted on February 5, 2012 at 9:25amChurchill went on to push for the overthrow of Mossadegh, Iran’s only democratically elected leader, and have him replaced with the Shah, who had no problem letting his men torture innocent people with rape, being cooked alive, and detaining them indefinitely. And all for oil, and unapologetically so. I don‘t think he’s the guy you want to cite as an authority.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:11amit is not our fight
Report Post »mike_trivisonno
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:19amFrom an historical perspective, it is. Through our weakness and timidity, Western Civilization has ceded much of these now muslim-occupied lands to the Islamic Empire. We abandoned many of our own behind the Iron Veil and left them to rot and die and be sacrificed on the altar of Allah.
We should seek now to no longer appease or submit to their Allah deity and instead seek at every opportunity to re-establish our Western Civilization at the expense of Islamic culture.
The Islamic Empire has taken enough from us. There are no more New Worlds to which we can bear off our civilization, so we should seek to regain what was once ours.
Destroy the Caliphate and liberate the suffering.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:30amnot sure what time period you are referring to. The crusades?
I am shocked by the people who post to this website. At a time when america is collapsing from within – when we have genuine socialists running this country – when we are bankrupt – when our military is too thin…We are talking about conquering the middle east. Brilliant!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:41am“We should seek now to no longer appease or submit to their Allah deity”
Report Post »I’ll go along with that, though I think Soybomb is right that it isn’t our fight. I hope the good guys win, and that the gross injustice shows those trapped behind Islamic Theocracy how horrible it can be.
wdittgasn
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:42amThis is not our fight. If it were politically expedient you could bet Obama would have us dead in the middle of this mess, bleeding our countries wealth dry
Report Post »georgeisn6
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:06amAllegedly 200 hundred dead, and allededly the media showes us a women wraped up in rags and alledge that she was wonded by alleged govermen forces and alleged that we should belive that any time we see a person in that part of the world wraped in rags that we should allegedly allege that in a place in the world where everone wrapes themselves in rags ever where they go that they have allegedle been wonded by goverment alleged forces allegedly.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:02pm@just angry
Report Post »There are no good guys…. PERIOD ! let them kill kill kill… Each other, that is !
justangry
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 7:59pm@Detroit, It often appears that way, though I imagine there are some people over there who only say they believe out of fear.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:02amThis region has had its brush fires over the years, but nothing like it have we seen in our time before. Its an epic upheavel of human misery and destruction. More will be killed unfortunately because inequity abounds everywhere and hearts grow cold because of it, therefore life grows ever more cheap. Someone will answer a solution but that day is far from us for now, people are still in their cozy cocoons in most of the Western nations enjoying this weekends game while slaughter is happening all around them. Boy we are in sad times for sure. Damascus prophecy has still not happened and its next. It will lay in a ruinous heap and Damascus will be no more. Damascus has never been destroyed by warfare and it is part of the revelations of Kingdom against Kingdom or civil war. Either they destroy it or Israel decides enough is enough because of the War that will come from the North from Syria as they let loose one last gasp of this regime in an attempt to settle the score once and for all with Israel.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:01amThis is why i do not trust government
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:50amWe should just bomb both government and rebel forces. That way, we don‘t have to look like we’re picking sides. We can call it an “equal opportunity bombing campaign.”
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:59amyou are so cool for saying that
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:03amClearly, you misunderstand. I’m not kidding.
Report Post »jnobfan
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:07amAnother stop for the money train? The train has reduced its stops in Iraq and Afgan so it needs new stops. Syria and Iran have applied for the express service with frequent stops at premium fares.
Report Post »2 new wars (I mean stops) coming to us this spring. The Iran stop will be wildly popular.
soybomb315
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:10amok then let me revise….You are such a fool for saying that
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:15amPlease, do elaborate.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:25amok then. If two people you really hate are fighting each other – why in the world you step in the middle? it is a very simple concept. our military is stretched thin and we are bankrupt. Besides, syria and the rebels have not done anything to us that justifies bombing them. Do you think the middle east is a playground? It is a real place with real people and real consequences. You may not understand it, but our friends such as israel certainly do
Let them kill each other off and we go from there
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:30am@freedom
Report Post »Can we carpet bomb ?….. Please !!!!
FreedomPurveyor
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:35am“Let them kill each other off and we go from there”
If the goal is let them kill each other off, it will be much more effective if we keep one side from wiping out the other.
If we destroy the artillery, they have a reduced capacity to kill innocents.
If we simply allow Assad’s regime to crush the rebellion, he will be far more capable to aid Iran in a fight against Israel.
Obviously it will never happen, but I can dream.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:40am“Can we carpet bomb ?….. Please !!!!”
That sounds pretty fair.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:45amI understand. Let me explain what would happen in that scenario…First, we start bombing syrian military targets. Lets assume innocent civilians are not killed in the bombings. The syrian government announces that the USA is bombing them, the rebels see that USA is bombing syria. What happends next? The rebels realize that they hate america more than the syria government and the stop fighting each other. They stop fighting each other and see us standing in the corner of the kitchen with cake all over our face. We are then at a state of war with syria and go through iraq/afganistan all over again
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:25pm“What happends next? The rebels realize that they hate america more than the syria government and the stop fighting each other.”
We have a good example of what would happen. We intervened in Libya, and the rebels were emboldened by it. They do hate America, but as long as America is helping them achieve their ends, they will gladly accept help.
“They stop fighting each other and see us standing in the corner of the kitchen with cake all over our face. We are then at a state of war with syria and go through iraq/afganistan all over again”
We don’t have to put boots on the ground. They don’t have the capability to defend themselves against our Air Force or our Navy. It would be just like Libya, except we wouldn’t let the rebels win.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:34pmI consider libya to be a disaster, not only for libya but for our rule of law. Only time will tell – i hope you pay attention
Report Post »georgeisn6
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:50am@ hundred less Owhatabummers we will have to fight.
Report Post »Legal Immigrant
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:36amLooks like Lebanon from the 80′s.
Same mistakes from one generation to the next.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 6:35pmIt may be congenial. Cousin marriages … mayhaps.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:36amI don’t believe anything the international media tells us. But I do believe that the Muslim Brotherhood and the Islamic fanaticism we are seeing heralds the coming next World War …. ( the anarchy we are seeing here in our internationally connected Occupies is just another sign of what is brewing ) .
Report Post »1947
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:35amCould it be that this is what OBAMA has in mind for America…… that‘s why he’s bring the troops home. This is the Islam and commie way bombing your people
Report Post »pitboss711
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:44amIf it can happen in Syria, it can happen here. People need to wake up and stop being complacent.
Report Post »Kiba
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 3:46pmLet it happem Im ready, I just ordered a new Mares Leg yesterday. in .44 mag.! I havent been this exited in a long time. C’mon wednesday! Aint nothing more beautifull than a 24′ long lever-action w/a big-loop lever! And that 24″ is overall length too. And yes its legal too, its classified as a handgun. Its just so cool I cant hardly wait to get it in my hands.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 6:50pmKIBA:
Report Post »I’ve been looking for quite a while at that rifle. Let us know how you like it.
gpk
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:35amIt’s ready to hit the fan. What a mess.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:14amSo, if they ever do overthrow Assad, they will replace him with an Islamist government. I would really like to pull for these people but, I know what they’ll do if they get their way. At least is Assad is afraid to die, the Islamists can’t wait to die. Who would you rather deal with?
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:23amYou‘re being practical in that we can deal with Assad because he’s rational,unlike the people who would fill the vacuum if the dictator is deposed.It’s the same situation in Egypt.Mubarak was a dictator but he was rational,unlike the MB who are now in power in Egypt, the same fate will befall the people of Syria,MB takes power and shariah law is instituted.
Report Post »randy
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:12amChocolates: $30
Report Post »Long stem Roses: $80
Candle light dinner: $120
Hotel room: $100
Champagne: $50
Muslims killing Muslims: Priceless!
Kiba
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 3:30pmBeautifull Randy, beautifull! lol… I think they should all (on both sides) be given new AK’s and a full compliment of ammo. And some tactical-nukes (tactical is the key-word here) as well , and a pat on the back and a “go get em Jameel” word of confidence and send them on their way! lol!!!
Report Post »thegreatcarnac
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 5:51pmLol!
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:08amThe more they kill the better it is for the rest of the world… Stay out of the way !!!!
Report Post »junkmaninohio
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:30amYou forgot to add the words “each other”……get it right.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:04amWhen muslims are killing muslims….. Buy popcorn.
Report Post »CleanUpAisle2013
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:22am@Detroit Paperboy “When muslims are killing muslims….. Buy (BACON FLAVORED) popcorn.”
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 9:55amThe tyrant will slaughter many to maintain power and control.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:03amWe will see this level of bloodshed many times more when Obama refuses to surrender power after the elections; assuming we even have them.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:15amI never would of thought that possible in this country but with this Marxist POS in power and the way he‘s violated our constitution I’d say it’s quite possible that could actually happen.
Report Post »junkmaninohio
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 10:33amObama will start a war with Iran prior to the 2012 elections and Romney will lose big time to the Democrats once again. Republicans are idiots to put up people like Romney and McCain for the WH. That’s why they will always be the minority party.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 11:33amJunkman. You are correct. Any new wars will only strenghten obama’s re-election. Republicans cannot get new wars and presidency – they must choose. Their problem may be something along the lines of arrogant denial? i dont know
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 12:27pm@JUNKMANINOHIO Since we have an imperial presidency and no longer have a constitutional republic our Marxist POS president can start a war without congressional approval.He will do so if he makes the calculation that it will help his re-election effort,and the irony here is so called conservatives rally around the president at times of war,so how can a so called conservative back a Marxist on anything?
If any president starts a war so called conservatives are all hard for it no matter what because perpetual war is what they crave and getting wars declared by congress is lawful but so passe and the constitution was written so long ago let’s just get to killing as much as we can,I tell you all this,endless undeclared wars and our national debt will destroy our republic faster than some terrorist with a bomb.
Report Post »momrules
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 9:51amEvery atrocity that was reported was denied by the Syrian government. The government is, of course, innocent.
These are the same denials we will be hearing from our own government in the not too distant future.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 1:52pmAre we sure that these atrocities were committed by the Assad regime and not false flags commited by outside forces?
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 2:25pm* I should say committed or assisted by outside forces.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 4:16pmThere are Spetznaz merc working for Assad, but not sure if that qualifies as outside force. Locals may see it that way. Kaddafi had his Niger, Mali, Chad mercs, Saddam Hussein Palestinian mercs. It’s a normal MO in the Middle East–the mercs are less squeamish about butchering locals if a “need” arises.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 9:45amAahhh…peaceful Islam.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on February 4, 2012 at 6:55pmAahhh….peaceful Obama. Same thing.
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