Bloomberg Wages War on Other States’ Gun Laws
- Posted on September 27, 2010 at 8:34am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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WASHINGTON — A report being released Monday by a mayors group finds that nearly half of the guns that crossed state lines and were used in crimes in 2009 were sold in just 10 states.
Those states accounted for nearly 21,000 guns connected to crimes in other states, says the survey by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, an association of more than 500 mayors led by New York‘s Michael Bloomberg and Boston’s Thomas Menino.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives traced more than 145,000 guns used in crimes in 2009 and found that more than 43,000 guns were sold in other states.
Forty-nine percent of those guns were sold in Georgia, Florida, Virginia, Texas, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, California or Arizona.
The mayors group wants to push for tighter state and federal gun laws in order to stop the flow. “There are 12,000 gun murders a year in our country, and this report makes it perfectly clear how common-sense trafficking laws can prevent many of them,” Bloomberg told the New York Times. That’s despite nothing in the news reports proving that the guns were sold illegally — it seems the report is only making the observation that guns sold in some states have been used in others.
“[The report] finds that, across the board, those states with less restrictive gun laws exported guns used in crimes at significantly higher rates than states with more stringent laws,” the Times says.
But Chris Cox of the National Rifle Association says the data are flawed. “It’s completely bogus for a group with a clear political agenda to release some study based on selective statistics,” he told the Times. “This is not a serious discussion. But this is what we’ve come to expect from Mayor Bloomberg and his gun control agenda.”
Not so, says James Alan Fox, a criminology professor at Northeastern University. “A state’s gun laws are only as good as the weakest link in the national chain,” the Times article quoted Fox as saying. “A state with weaker gun laws becomes a supplier for states with stronger laws.”
Cox, however, isn‘t afraid that Bloomberg’s report will have an affect — especially due to the Supreme Court’s recent Second Amendment decisions. “Do I think Mayor Bloomberg and his group are desperate for relevancy in a debate where they have no legitimate role? Sure,” Cox said. “Do I think their approach will continue to be rejected by the American people and Congress? I do.”
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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tankchaser
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:39amGun control is working so well down in Mexico that Bloomburg would like to see it here also. Hey dumba##, When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns, the police don’t walk beside me 24 and 7. I am willing to bet most of the weapons used were not in the possession of the original owner and were also reported stolen by the owner. Look at anyplace that restricts guns and you will find an elevated crime rate. Pull your head out!!!!
Report Post »moelarrycurly
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 1:07pmAmen!!!
Report Post »jb1972
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 4:19pmAbsolutely true. A lot of stats were left out of this story that would show the real truth. Guns dont kill people, people kill people! How many of these crimes were committed by felons who shouldnt be on the street to begin with?
Report Post »Buck Bagaw
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:39amBloomberg is an evil unAmerican bit of toilet flotsam, a ruling class little bastard that thinks the citizenry is here to supply capital and bend to his whims. He is living proof of the self-destructive stupidity of the urban voter. We actually Need one more gun law, and that would be one that mandates all state governments to recognize the validity of the carry permits of Every other state as is done with driving licenses.
Report Post »Hillbillybone
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:37amThe Japanese did not attempt or even think about an invasion of the US in WWII because they said there would be a gun behind every blade of grass.
The people who think they are “Elites” Want to disarm America because they feel threatend buy the fact that when America pulls their heads out of the sand, they will have weapons to take back control to the PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Zombee
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:36am43,354 people die in automobile accidents a year. Maybe Bloomberg should be outlawing automobiles. Bloomberg wants to shred the 2nd amendment and disarm law abiding citizens of New York that are getting shot . Every law abiding citizen has the right to protect his property, family and himself. Law enforcements purpose is to investigate crimes, not to protect you.
Report Post »Tate
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:35amOne more thing. If you DID take all the Guns people would just use baseball bats, 2 by 4′s, pipes etc. You can’t stop people from being mean and praying on the weak.
DO YOU WANT JUST THE CRIMINALS TO HAVE GUNS MIKEY?.
Report Post »alienguns
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 11:20amyou are exactly right..if someone wants to murder someone they will do it with their hands or a rock or anything handy….a gun never hurt anyone …it is the person holding it…..I would rather have everyone armed….. that way the law abiding citizen at least has a chance…everytime I hear this crap I go out and buy more guns and more ammunition….you can pass all the laws you want but criminals don’t obey the laws,, that is why they are criminals…when you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have guns…that is not a place that I want to live!!
Report Post »Tate
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:32amHey Blooming Idiotberg, Don’t you have enough to worry about in New Your City?
Report Post »Don’t worry about Texas. You might want to visit someday.
moelarrycurly
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:32amPlease New York…Please do something this election year about your mayor. Elect someone that will do something about the GZM and someone who will look at the source of the real problem in this instance…criminals. They will get guns-if they cant get them-they can manufacture them. In middle eastern countries the AK-47 can be manufactured by uneducated with little more than blacksmith tools. Please understand-the vast majority of us gun owners are out to protect ourselves, and our families. Sure, these criminals leave your cities to come buy guns somewhere else-but they go back home to commit crimes because the chances of someone shooting back or being able to defend themselves is much lower where you live. I invite you to join the ranks of responsible gun owners who want the ability to protect themselves-against criminals and the government…
Report Post »Silat
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:31amFACT: All of the crimes were committed by democrats. Check out what political party inmates and ex cons belong to or used to belong to. 95% of a criminals vote democrat.
Report Post »Hey Bloomturd, there is your answer.
JJStryder
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:28amThe report never mentioned if the guns were stolen from owners in those other states. Also it makes sense that cowardly criminals would want to commit their crimes in states and cities with the toughest gun laws. Less chance of getting killed by an armed citizen. Could it be that restrictive gun laws lead to more crime not the other way around?
Report Post »FreedomOfSpeech
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:27amBloomy is all for the First Amendment when it comes to Muslims wanting to build a victory mosque on the graves of those killed on 9/11 but somehow he thinks he is smart enough to declare the Second Amendment unnecessary. This guy is interested in his own narrow agenda only.
Human remains were found at the Ground Zero Mozque location:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUn552ZZmc8
But who cares, right?
Report Post »AMERICA4EVER
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:23amI just wonder who was going to arm Obama’s civilian army? Hmmmm…
Report Post »Hillbillybone
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:40amArmed, I don‘t know but manned by the Peace Corps and all the other agency’s that Obama said “If you serve 10 years your college debt is forgiven” There is the manning, weapons will just come from armeries around the country…..
Report Post »Greg the Great
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:19amBloomberg · BusinessWeek, Bimini Capital Management, Inc has Muslim investors. Some people have their price.
Report Post »nevadapat
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:18amHey Bloomberg……come git some.
Report Post »mr chievous
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:16amSince the progressives are so concerned about safety, seems to me they should work on banning vehicles. There were 33,963 traffic fatalities and only 12,000 murders. They’re on the wrong course IF safety was really their issue. Obvioulsy there is some other agenda!
m c
Report Post »eaglescout1998
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 5:11pmRumor has it that Bloomberg is trying to ban dihydrogen monoxide.
Okay, not really…. But I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried. He’s already banned sodium chloride, or so I hear.
Report Post »common everyday citizen
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:08amVery odd that the United Nations socialists club is trying to dictate to America the same thing…
Turn to history to learn something about the future.
Restore the U.S. Constitution, it may not be “PC” to the marxists socialists loons, but screw ‘em!
Report Post »FieryRed
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:04amMan, I don’t like that guy. Being a single mom, I decided a few years back to get my CWP and carry. Unless Bloomberg wants to act like the secret service and protect me and my son 24-7, he just needs to butt way the hell out of this matter.
Report Post »onenation
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:02amBloomberg is a fascist and thinks he can control what goes on in other states. The last long gun I purchased was purchased in PA because the dealer had it in stock. NJ Laws have driven gun dealers out of the state and the government looks for any opportunity to take away a dealer’s firearms license. The Pa dealer had a suit filed by Bloomberg and the city of NY regarding what Bloomberg calls a STRAW purchase. Bloomberg was going around to other states and setting a trap for out of state gun dealers to fall into. The dealers who fought Bloomberg all won. But this particular dealer didn’t have deep enough pockets to fight him so he settled. Turns out every purchase now has an extra form which is filled out and sent to the City of NY. Absolutely unconstitutional but fascists like Bloomberg don’t care about the Constitution. Bloomberg belongs in jail. He has no authority except in the City of NY. The Liberal Left should have never given him a Third term (he usurped the term limits). Vote freedom stealing thieves like Bloomberg out of office.
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 10:20amits time to put a lot of these ******** in jail for a long long time as a warning to any of the other lefties that we will never disarm. youll get all my bullets first one at a time.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 8:59amWhat a crock. Lies and more lies; try to move across a state line and buy a firearm LEGALLY in a state you are a non-resident. The best way to cut down on gun crime is to arm your self; secure your weapons so they don’t get stolen. Of the firearms used to comit a crime, how many were obtainted LEGALLY by the person using them? Law abiding citizens don’t go to a gun store; by a pistol then go rob the 7-11 down the street; Bloomberg for the Mosque, but against the Second Ammendment. New Yorkers need to have their head examined!!!
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 8:53amHistorically, every society which has allowed itself to be disarmed has then been heavily oppressed by it’s government.
Report Post »Independent Tess
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:22amSo true. I truly believe that one of the reasons the US mainland has never been invaded is because they knew that we have a well armed citizenry. An invading army would have to shoot its way through an armed populace. Most of us are not rabbits.
Report Post »mck05002
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 11:38amNot only oppressed, but massacred. Look at China, USSR, Germany, Turkey, Rwanda….you lose your right to defend yourself, and you might as well start digging your own grave!
Report Post »tepartyblog.info
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 8:49amThey don’t seem to get that they cant wag the dog anymore. They make up some scare campaign and expect the people to run to their reps and beg for new gun control laws. There should be no such thing as an illegal gun just illegal uses(murder,bank robing,etc). People are informed and will not be moved by the by the excretion end.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 8:47amLet us never forget that this anti-American, traitorous coward Bloomberg is bought by islam and he is the one in NYC who is pushing to help them build their VILE victory mosque atrocity on AMERICA’s 9/11 ashes.
Report Post »WishWeWereFree
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 8:47amThese people are so transparent! They want your guns and your freedom and they will tell any lie that they have to to get them.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 8:45amBloomberg sounds exactly like Daily from Chicago sounded. He wanted to ban all handguns in Illinois because of the gang wars in Chicago. Of course him pushing a ban on handguns in Chicago for everyone in addition to the cut back in police had nothing to do with the crime rate. Things were and are going to hell in a handbag in his city and it can’t be his fault, it must someone else fault.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 8:45amto those left mayors: keep your cold cowardly clammy hands off MY American guns. We will NEVER disarm.
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:54amBlaze People, go to BQI’s blog http://www.blackquillandink.com and see the video about Mr. Jefferson!!! How appropriate an answer to this bozo! Pass it on. LOL
Report Post »dwh320
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 8:44amThey will only get my guns if the take them from my cold dead hands. Charlton Heston said it many years ago and it still rings true today.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 8:49amBloomberg needs to try to help his islamic masters disarm AMERICA so it can slaughter our children easier and turn our nation into a subjugated, poverty-stricken, goat herding ghetto.
Report Post »adifftake
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:41amYes, but the antigun crowd think cold dead hands is a political expression. They have no clue we actually mean it.
Report Post »OneIfByLand
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:47amThe constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that… it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.
Report Post »Thomas Jefferson
Contrarianthinker
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:57amReview the movie RED DAWN. On a bumper sticker displayed the “dead hands” position but the invadsers still took over. The invaders eventually lost because of local groups of “militias.”
Those cold dead hands will only win when organized ahead of time. ONLY FOR DEFENSIVE PURPOSES!!!!!
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 10:15amcome get my guns bloomberg! i got something for your ass its more than you can carry and its less than 200 grains but itll zip through a kevlar vest like cutting hot butter. but im not a nice guy when it come to losers like you our constitution says we have a right to own guns and it also says you cant pass any laws that stop me from owning a gun. a well regulated melitia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. do you see those 5 words i capitalised? that means we the people can keep our guns and you cant pass any laws that stop us. so just try mr bloomingidiot and youll see what happens.
Report Post »rlmeals
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 11:57amYou know, they are already going after gun shows in Texas. This happened back in January, 2010. You can read the links below, the first is what happened, and the second is an update. See, here in Texas, is you are a dealer, you are required to do the federal background check. But if you are a private seller, you are not. This means if I want to sell my gun to anybody, whether on the street, in a pawn shop, between buddies in a shooting club, or even at a gun show, I don’t have to do a background check. Not to mention I wouldn’t have the resources to do one. Now the BATF is trying to take away our rights to commerce by forbidding us from private sales. Allegedly, the BATF is setting up people by sending illegal aliens with valid driver licenses to purchase a gun from these private sellers, then arresting the sellers. All a seller must do is check ID for age, but a private seller is not responsible for determining the immigration status or running a background check. Could you imagine if they started denying sales to Hispanics on suspicion that they were illegal? Then they’d get sued for discrimination. It’s a no win for these guys, and what the ATF is doing, allegedly, is against the current gun laws and against the Constitution.
http://www.infowars.com/texas-gun-shows-organizer-targeted-by-the-atf-makes-his-case-on-the-alex-jones-show/
http://www.ammoland.com/2010/01/23/austin-texas-gunshow-update/
Report Post »mrdbcooper
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 12:08pmMAIG kept their report secret until an organization called CALGUNS filed a FOIA request (sorry about all the acronymns). In Virginia, we fought for weeks to get this document released…very scary stuff…
http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/MAIG-Blueprint-Gun-Control.pdf
Report Post »VJ
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 12:40pmPerfect example of bad guys getting guns under any circumstance no matter where they live.
Report Post »nomad360
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 2:03pmAmen brother. I was moderately armed prior to 2008. Now I’m adding as much to the arsenal as I can afford. This revolution is eventually going to be fought street by street. Maobama is setting up the US Military to be a eunuch, so it will be up to us Real Americans to take our once proud United States of America back and return it to God loving, bible reading, gun toting Americans. In case you may have forgotten, Maobama promised to build a civilian security force that is trained, funded, motivated as well as the US Military. Well health care law has a provision that sets up a recurring fund of 14 M to be used for recruitment and training of an office corp to command his civilian security force. That provision of the law has all ready been implemented. For boots on the ground, here is where the “troops” originate. ACORN, Americorps, SEIU, AFL-CIO, college students who used nationalized student loan program. (10 year commitment US Government to cancel loan) So my friends, the time to arm and make sure adequate ammunition supplies are established is now or it will be too late. (See Obama-Clinton – UN Small arms treaty)
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Mentoring1
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 2:52pmPeople of NY City UNITE and recall on this nut!
Report Post »I am 'We the People
Posted on September 27, 2010 at 9:54pmInteresting statistics, did you know that approximately 45,000 people per year are killed by car accidents? Oh, that’s 12,000 deaths by murder which includes all methods.
(A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun “for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere.” Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all “military service, police work, or work as a security guard.”)
(Based on survey data from the U.S. Department of Justice, roughly 5,340,000 violent crimes were committed in the United States during 2008. These include simple/aggravated assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, rapes, and murders.Of these, about 436,000 or 8% were committed by offenders visibly armed with a gun.)
(A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:
• 34% had been “scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim”
• 40% had decided not to commit a crime because they “knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun”
• 69% personally knew other criminals who had been “scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim”)
Based purely on statistics: Shouldn’t we then issue more firearms to the population? :)
Report Post »txgentsr
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 12:59amYes you are right Mr. President I will cling to my guns and religion.
Report Post »PostProgressiveAmerican
Posted on September 28, 2010 at 5:36amAmendment x
The right of the people to keep and bear Firearms, including pistols, rifles and shotguns, shall not be infringed. No limitations shall be placed on magazine size.
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