Boehner Booed at Convention as Chaos Erupts on Convention Floor Over Ron Paul Delegates
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A security agent calls for more security as delegate from Virginia Braedon Wilkerson displays a Ron Paul sign after the vote on Maine at the Tampa Bay Times Forum in Tampa, Florida, on August 28, 2012 during the Republican National Convention. Credit: AFP/Getty Images
A floor fight was narrowly avoided today on the floor of the Republican National Convention, as a battle over proposed rules and alternate delegations threatened to spark a mass rebellion by supports of Texas Congressman Ron Paul, as well as opponents of the proposed rules.
The trouble began when Credentials Committee Chairman Mike Duncan took the stage to announce the results of several appeals requests to have three delegations controlled by Texas Congressman Ron Paul’s supporters seated at the convention. True to early reports, the convention seated two of them, but declined to seat the Maine delegation, instead choosing to seat an alternate delegation.
The announcement that the Maine delegation would not be seated met with audible booing. The decision, however, passed the convention floor by a voice vote, despite the cacophonous roar of “No” from the Paul supporters.
It was at this point that the real chaos started. Business Insider reports:
Things just got a little awkward during the Republican National Convention, as Ron Paul supporters burst out into protest and shouted “point of order” in protesting the RNC’s determination not to seat Paul delegates from Maine.
“Point of order! Seat them now! We’ve been robbed!” Paul supporters shouted.
The Paul supporters’ chants were countered by Romney supporters chanting “U-S-A!”
RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, who looked rather bewildered throughout the entire ordeal, repeatedly asked for calm banging his gavel on the podium.
Audio of the screaming was cut out by C-SPAN, but it continued unabated as the convention proceeded, with angry delegates shouting “No” to practically every motion following this decision. The shouting of “U-S-A” followed each outburst, a response that Tweeter robport suggested might have been coordinated:
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@robport: ND delegate just texted me saying they were instructed to chant “USA” to drown out dissent.#RNCpowergrab— Timothy P Carney (@TPCarney) August 28, 2012
Coordinated or not, the problems did not stop after this first outburst. When Rules Committee Chairman John Sununu took the floor to ask for agreement to a set of rules – rules that have been slammed up and down by grassroots conservatives and conservative pundits for depriving activists of power – the makings of a real rebellion looked to be in the making. Reporter Zeke Miller Tweeted:
Two members of the Texas delegation are chanting “Point of order” repeatedly.
— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) August 28, 2012
More members of the Texas delegation now joining in
— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) August 28, 2012
Permanent convention Chairman John Boehner called for a voice vote on the rules. Those voting “Aye” screamed their approval. Boehner called for those opposing to yell. The response was arguably indistinguishable from that of the supporters. Nevertheless, Boehner ruled that “The Ayes have it” and all the rules went through. Despite early reports that minority reports had been sent to the Chair that would have offered an alternate vision of the rules, no minority reports were voted on. It was as though no opposition had ever existed.
Boos and fury followed. The unseated Maine delegation walked out in disgust.
TAMPA, FL - AUGUST 28: A man gestures thumbs down during the Republican National Convention at the Tampa Bay Times Forum on August 28, 2012 in Tampa, Florida. Credit: Getty Images
Yet the convention went right on without any notice of those responses.
Ron Paul himself hardly seems to be helping his own cause. In an appearance with Fox’s Cavuto, Paul said he had “no plans to endorse” the current Republican ticket, a move that makes him unique among the losing Presidential contenders. Paul’s response, via Mediaite:
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Comments (655)
Sparky77
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:37pmThis story has a very misleading spin & title to it. The furor here was about a power grab by the RNC to shut down grass-roots selection of delegates. A lot of the uproar was by conservatives, not just the Ron Paul wing and not just about Ron Paul delegates. This represents another step away from a properly functioning representative form of government.
Report Post »IsThereADifference
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:40pmThe voters don’t give a damn. They got what they wanted by hook or by crook. Piss on all of them!
Report Post »fancynancy
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:41pmVery true. I am not (was not) thrilled with Boehner being the choice for speaker (which by the way, I first spelled Boehner incorrectly in this post and the spell check gave me the option“bonehead” HA!). I think he is weak-stomached and this passage of new delegate rules does not improve his standing with me.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:43pmI would vote for Ron Paul except for his crazy stance on letting Israel get nuclear weapons. However, the two choices we have now to vote for are equal frauds:
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78SZ1XcdPRY
watersRpeople
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:48pmThe Republicans are hurting themselves far more than Tropical Storm Isaac could have, and I suspect that‘s why they didn’t take a direct hit. God wanted to watch them make asses out of themselves.
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:48pmThe RNC is turning out to be the biggest Ron Paul rally ever. Too funny.
A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama. After this, you can forget about the Paulers getting behind Romney, not when his people are already trashing their proper representation. It truly is Ron Paul or bust now, congrats Romneyites.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:49pmExcuse me, not everyone voted for Romney in the primaries. I may not have voted for Ron Paul, but I didn’t vote for Romney only because he was shoved down our throats and declared the winner before all the states had their primaries. I voted for Santorum. But since he won, I’ll support him.
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:51pmTwo twitter posts is hardly chaos.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:55pmYou lefties are experts HAIRYBETH…you know all about anarchy and chaos.
Report Post »Thordomr
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:55pmGold Coin,
Israel has nucular weapons did you mean Iran?
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:56pmBoehner has been worthless, the executive branch is running all over the congress, and Boehner just sits there and cries………..RINO.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:02pmCertainly healthy actions during a convention, no doubt. The last thing we need is lock-stepped, mind-numbed robots going thru the motions like leftists.
Crybaby needs a kick in the ass every now and again. He’ll never change his spots, but at least we can be assured that he’ll continually hear about it. He really needs to be replaced; and that right soon.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:06pmGOLD COIN ET AL: I would vote for Ron Paul except that he has had 30 years in the HOUSE and accomplished nothing; the fact that he’s no friend of Israel; the FACT that he does not get it that neither his little boys (a different group every 2 years I’ve noted over past 2 decades) …he doesn’t get it that those animals in the M.E. don’t want to LEAVE US alone…they want to control or kill all of us…oh, and I can’t vote for him because I think he is a total nut-case; a one-note pony and totally self-centered. He sure didn’t help his Son any. Good thing his Son endorsed Gov. Mitt Romney a long time ago. I don’t give a hoot what Ron Paul Stands for….he accomplished -0-, not a sign of a viable leader or Patriot.
Report Post »4xeverything
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:14pmYes, the GOP is dead. Now it’s just a matter of time until we have replaced what is left of the RINOS with real conservatives but, the only way to make sure that they don’t also become RINOS is to purge the whole lot every 5-10 years and Freedomworks, the TEA party, and the Libertarian base have to stay focused on doing just that. Let them make their rules as it is just a desperate attempt at holding onto power they no longer have.
Report Post »Wilma
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:15pmSparky you are 100% correct. The Blaze headlines on this tory have been misleading with regard to the key issue at hand. This is not about Ron Paul. What is going on at the Blaze? I even sent an email to one of their writers about this. Today the RNC and Mitt Romney gave the finger to conservatives. I am currently listening to Mark Levin who is ballistic about this.
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:20pmIt is what it is you can be adult about it and deal with it rationally and make the best of it or you can just roll up another and smoke your troubles away.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:22pm***** is jsut now getting boo’d? Bummer: I’ve been booing him for ever. Nothing more than a lib RINO just like the rest of the GOP. Not worth the energy it’d take to pizz on them.
Report Post »Vegasdad702
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:23pmNo Gold Coin meant Israel! LOL. Thats just it with Ron Paul it isn’t our RIGHT to tell ANY nation how to rule themselves. ITS GUN CONTROL! Are you for gun control?? I bet your not. WHY? Because it flys in the face of FREEDOM and you can try and get rid of all the WEAPONS but you CAN”T STOP A NUT OR CRAZY PERSON FROM BEING CRAZY!! They will get a weapon if their hell bent on doing so. WE SHOULD NOT compromise our principles in order to prevent a hypothetical. THATS NOT FREEDOM!! Anyway WAY off topic, but I couldn’t resist. Too funny! Oh and I support Israel and her RIGHT to exist. Just thought you should know that before you say I don’t love israel. Thank you God Bless.
Report Post »Want our country back
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:27pmGold coin:
Report Post »This has me more concerned
Acorn whistleblower Anita Moncrief
part 1—- http://www.youtube.com/embed/3CmkbShVqNA?feature=player_embedded
part 2—- http://www.youtube.com/embed/gy6odnqyLeU?feature=player_embedded
Please send to ALL the people you know! (Ron Paul & Gary Johnson supporters need to see these 2 videos before throwing their vote to obama.
heyjim55
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:27pmI agree it was misleading , and it shows that even Glenn Becks operation has a corrupt side to it. Any denial of grassroots influence is wrong and now we see a very corrupt GOP inside the beltway gang. Now I have a real problem supporting anyone for president Romney just made his first big mistake, and so has the GOP.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:28pmJohn Sununu is the perfect man to represent the elite progressives.
Report Post »http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_H._Sununu#Controversies
WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges12
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:33pmRepublican Progressives … just like the Democrat Progressives.
Report Post »It’s a puppet show. Right or Left. Republican or Democrat. Romney or Obama.
It’s a puppet show … while they stay in control.
Vegasdad702
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:35pmOH and the reason why I wanted to comment in the first place is because IF you have been watching GBTV today and saw David Bartman, and what he was talking about, then you got your FIRST glimpse of how Romney will lead. I got a text from Freedomworks this morning and saw article 16. Basically forcing the MOB RULE of Mitt Romney and his BIG GOVERNMENT tactics. Already changing the game to give himself MORE power. Gee I wonder if he’ll be a PROGRESSIVE President like EVERYONE warned he would be? I like that he has adopted SOME of the TRUE Tea Party and Ron Paul platforms like auditing the Fed, but DO YOU REALLY TRUST HIM TO KEEP HIS CAMPAIGN PROMISES? REALLY? Look he’s a better bet than 4 more years of Obama, BUT that don‘t mean we didn’t get CONNED AGAIN into voting for ANOTHER PROGRESSIVE! GOD SAVE OUR REPUBLIC!!! “In a Democracy, the people get the government they DESERVE!”.
Report Post »2gether
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:39pmThat’s exactly what it was about! The big boys don‘t want the conservatives opening their mouths at all and it should leave a bad taste in everyone’s mouth. Ron Paul could never win the general election. But someone like Santorum could have. He was destroyed by the press and his own party. I hate this as much as the next person but I’ll be damned if my vote will in any way shape or form propel Obama back into office for 4 more years. I will vote for Romney and I will vote for every conservative grassroots state rep that I can. I will campaign my butt off to get these lugs out and get some people in this government who will actually represent the people
Report Post »db321
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:39pmThere is already a movement in Texas to run a Conservative Candidate up against RP in the next election. Texan’s have had enough of Ron Paul and his Pot Smoken obnoxious Worshipers. Remember, most of these idiots are Democrat and they are going to vote for Obama anyway.
Report Post »Toltepeceno
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:40pmRon Paul is the best thing that could happen for obama. He is nothing more than a spoiler.
Report Post »mrsuperpat
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:43pmThey have been pulling this crap the entire primary season. Changing the rules, ignoring the rules, breaking the rules ,lying, and cheating.with the purpose of stopping Ron Paul’s grass roots victory. HE WON IOWA and NEW HAMPSHIRE AND THEY KNOW IT! With the corrupt lap dog media they ignored these victories early on to stop Paul‘s momentum by cheating the results so the main stream idiots wouldn’t flock to Ron Paul. Now they are trying to shut out any grass roots including the TEA Party and now it can be seen for all because it was not only Ron Paul’s people they wanted to shut up.Now the RINO TEA PARTY is all uppidy. RON PAUL WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PRESIDENT but the crooks and special interests in Washington and their Operatives in all MEDIA would not have it. So everybody chant…USA…..I’m A SLAVE……..I GOT NO BRAINS……….NAIL MY GRAVE……Romney was just a place holder for Obama. Ever notice how he NEVER ATTENDED ANy TEA PARTY RALLIES (he hates you people). I’m 43 and have voted party line every election but I woke up a few years back and NOW is the Time for a 3rd Party. These RINO $%^holes will do nothing for the conservatives. Every election we get a RINO and it will never change especially after these Rule changes. It is long overdue. But both parties control the media and debate rules so 3rd party may be a dream as well. The biggest problem is the majority of AMERICANS are simply childlike and easily swayed by propaganda because they choose to remain igno
Report Post »Obama Snake Oil Co
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:49pmYou mean like we have in office right now? You a communist or a socialist….anarchis, qer, OWS gimme, union thug, nazi skinhead….what are you?
Report Post »The Giver
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:55pmWhere was The Blaze all last week when this GOP takeover was unfolding in Maine and other states? Despite several tips… they never covered it. I am quite sick. Standing by Romney good or bad is not a wise move. Is this how we are going to treat anything Romney and the GOP does? Ignore it and it will go away? Best of two evils?
Report Post »The Truth has no agenda… right?
LetUsReason
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:57pmThese Ron Paul people that you are witnessing here are no better than the OWS crowd. OWS is looking for intense government oversight to “spread the wealth”. This will inevitably lead to tyranny. The RP people want zero government intervention, which inevitably results in anarchy. Both will stop at nothing to ensure that they get their way, even if that means stifling the free speech of others. If I have to choose, then I choose anarchy, but there is always a better way.
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:59pmThis is WROL in action folks. Whoever yells the loudest wins.
OBAMNEY 2012, Hasten the Collapse
Time to end Bankster Rule, shock the gene pool, separate the wheat from the chaff……
Report Post »Will liberty rise from the ashes? Or will martial law and tyranny rule the huddled masses?
3monkeysmomma
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:59pmIn AZ, we elected a Ron Paul supporter as our new chairwoman at our convention. The Arizona Rep. Party then said it was so close that there had to be a recount and the recount was declared a tie requiring a run-off election.
That was months ago. We are still waiting.
I have been an active registered Republican my entire adult life and it really sickens me to it become so corrupt.
Report Post »The Giver
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:03pm@DB321, Did anyone inform you that Ron Paul is not running again for Representative? After 30 years of fighting for sound monetary policy and liberty, he will not run again. Happy?
Report Post »kiddopup
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:03pmplease go to mi9chelle malkins web site because Glenn is in the tank with the GOp this has nothing to do eith Ron Paul it has to do with a power grab to shut out the bTea party band if it does not get changed I for one am done I will take my chances
Report Post »joiseycop
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:09pmJust a question…In the Minnesota primary Romney received over 50% of the vote and came in 1st. Paul received 10% of the vote and came in third, Santorum came in second. So how does Paul get 33 delegates and Romney only gets 6???So according to you supporting RP…thats ok?? thats fair??? If so why have primaries??? Why vote???Sounds a bit Alynsky to me…you know…your ends justify your means? I thought you stood for Liberty and the Rule of Law?? silly me !
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:10pm@letusreason
your post is unbelievably ignorant. Since you’re either to lazy or to illiterate to read anything and find out what the constitutionalists want, I’ll give you the cliff notes version:
We want our governmental and monetary systems to more closely reflect the founders original intentions….and with only a few exceptions, the federal government only does a few things the states couldn’t do better a cheaper if Washington would stop syphoning our tax dollars out of our states. If that’s your idea of “anarchy” then you don‘t know much about our county’s history or our constitution.
Report Post »IsThereADifference
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:20pmVegasdad702
Awsome post! :)
Report Post »WakingSheep
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:24pmThis is disgusting. FRAUD GOP!
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:26pmPaulestinians are the largest collection of kooks, low-lifes and losers in the history of the world.
Report Post »farrier1
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:35pmRon Paul is a joke he has more pork to his name than any other senator I know of in congress and he looks and acts like a lunatic.
Report Post »Todd P
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:38pmOh my….. NOW the Paulbots are not going to vote for Mitt. He’s gone and done it this time!
These pot-heads never had any intention of supporting the RNC. Paul should register as a Libertarian or Green Party (as in marijuana) candidate. Actually, I hope all these druggies really do vote for him – they won’t be taking votes away from Mitt, only from Obama, since they are all liberals whose main agenda is getting high legally.
Ron Paul will go the way of Ross Perot – and not a minute too soon!!!
ROMNEY / RYAN 2012 / 2016
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:41pmPaul drawn the enthusiastic support of a collection of Neo-Nazis,Neolibs,Code Pink ,White Supremacists, Holocaust Deniers, 9/11 “Truthers” and other paranoid and discredited conspiracists. His only talent is gathering nuts
Report Post »Will4Freedom
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:44pmWhile I’m not a “Conservative” (iin the GOP sense), we share a lot of planks. They should be as upset as we Freedom people about this power grab. Yeah… I could have said “Ron Paul supporters”, but it’s not about him, its about the message.
Anyway, the RNC doesn’t care about me (us) , that’s fine with me. I wasn’t sure I could hold my nose long enough to vote Romney anyway.
Report Post »WakingSheep
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:49pm@GoodStuff
This was stolen from the get go. That was purely gestapo and your the fool for not seeing it.
The GOP manipulated and changed the rules throughout the whole process. They didn’t even acknowledge their own rules right there! They let it be drowned out by the “patriotic” chanting.
What a joke.
Make the votes disapear.
Disqualify delegates.
Drown out a grand ole party rule on the convention floor.
Why would I ever support this? Let me guess…. anybody but Obama?
Report Post »This country is so screwed……
inblack
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:07pmYou anti-Ron Paul GOP people are as bad as Obama.
You are supporting increasing a $1 trillion defense budget and the Ryan plan doesn’t cut the budget just slows it growth. Let’s face it – Ryan doesn’t balance the budget for 30 years. That is not conservative enough, if we get control we need to slash. Not replace Obama care with Romney care, not add troops, not continue blank checks to ATF and Homeland security.
We need to slash washington including the big military industry. If this country can’t survive on $1 trillion total budget then we are doomed. We also need to slash red tape regulation by over 50%.
That is the message of the Tea Party – not “lets slow the growth”.
BTW, Neil Cavuto is awesome.
Report Post »chigger
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:08pm@KEVINTAMPA — The Paulbots would not have supported him anyway. What did you expect the RNC to do? Paul supporters have been on their blogs for months saying they were gonna pull some kind of stunt at the convention and somehow force Ron Paul to be nominated. They are gonna screw around and get Obama in office again. Romney may not be a lot different than Obama, but at least he doesnt hate Amercia.
Report Post »WakingSheep
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:10pmThis is fraud. When did we become the USSA? That is what the chants sound like when they are drowning out a GOP RULE on the convention floor.
Report Post »The delegates were stolen throughout this whole process.
Why don’t they just go ahead and chant N D A A! N D A A!
Nolan Ryan-s Fastball
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:15pmAnd oddly enough (dare I say suspicious?)….
Report Post »…not a single link from Drudge to ANYTHING regarding this story, ANYWHERE.
What is going on, TheBlaze, Drudge?
God Bless Michelle Malkin, FreedomWorks, etc. Your ranks are about to grow exponentially…
WakingSheep
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:17pm@Chigger
Read N D A A and the Constitution.
He hates what America really stands for.
Good luck with his lawyers and Czars telling you what the Constitution means.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1yY3NCiMVQ
Report Post »dwf1
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:22pmR&R just lost a chance to unseat BO. You crazies blaming RP need to educate yourselves. What a stupid thing the RNC did today..
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:29pm@Want:
Why should Paul supporters throw their votes to Romney instead of Obama?
Why should we reward election fraud when there is an (R) behind the candidate’s name, and not when there’s a (D) there?
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:32pm@DB321:
You tool. Paul is retiring after this year. I guess whomever the GOP is running against him, might have a chance this time.
Report Post »dwf1
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:34pmSeems to me after the RNC crazy today maybe BO heads it up? R&R just lost the election blame the RNC not BO. I’m ABO but lost all hope today.
Report Post »Something is Wrong
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:45pmThis is for all the people who want to carry Ron Paul’s baby that love to post links to youtube videos and think that now that Ron Paul is out, Gary Johnson actually has some kind of a chance to really be elected. I know this video is just for laughs but it really isn‘t too far off the mark for the reality of Gary Johnson’s chances (or what Ron Paul’s chances have been from the beginning, for that matter).
Report Post »http://video.adultswim.com/robot-chicken/we-are-the-victors.html
Enjoy!
Trollkiller68
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:05pmRon Paul is a shill for the devil. This election is about choice or default; we choose Mitt Romney or we get Satan by default. And two more years of satanic power in the white house means the end of America forever. Kill the beats while he’s wounded! Ron Paul is senile, jealous and very selfish for holding back his endorsement. I hope he retires and is never heard from again.
Report Post »Uranium Wedge
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:07pmHang in there Paul supporters… The country is going to need you.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:13pmMark Levin talked about this today and made very valid points that this was not cool, in so many words!
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:53pmFrom now on I will not send a dime to the GOP local or national. I will only send money to FreedomWorks and directly to candidates. I will also send money to candidates running against the RINO’s.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:57pmwhat you read in this article is the future of the republican party under progressives like Mitt Romney. In your quest to have ‘anyone but Obama’ you will chain yourself to tyrants and corrupt RINOs which will lead this country to the same exact place….
I will not support Romney because of stuff like this. Doing so would only encourage this corrupt behavior
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:59pm@Detroit paperboy
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:56pm
Boehner has been worthless, the executive branch is running all over the congress, and Boehner just sits there and cries………..RINO.
Report Post »****
Did you ever notice how the disappointed look on the face of the Lady from Puerto Rico in the video so exactly mirrors boehner’s attitude toward the cabal?
American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:02pmRegardless of winning the nomination, the point is the underhanded actions to unseat elected delegates. No matter who you support, you should be appalled at the actions in our Republic. Chanting and celebrating that rules were being broke? You are like the frog boiling to death gradually. You just don‘t realize what’s happening to you, you may even start enjoying the warmth of your future frog stew.
If you are not appalled that rules would be easily broken in our delegate process, then you are part of the problem in this country. It’s not about getting Ron Paul elected anymore, it was about showing to the country that no matter how hard you try, the establishment will squish you. You may support most of the tenants of the establishment now, but what about tomorrow? Next year? Next decade? It’s only a matter of time before your party, the establishment, will turn on you. Then who will be left to fight for YOUR rights then?
Report Post »PANEOCON
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:36pmIMO you are completely correct here. I have just given up a week of work to man the county fair to register voters for the RNC and I find myself wondering why. I now know that the RNC is NOT going to be the salvation of the country that I thought it could be.
No Donation without Representation is my new motto.
Report Post »Watchingtheweasels
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:51pmAbsolutely correct. This has nothing to do with Ron Paul, but by an elite Washington minority in the Republican party attempting a massive power grab that will permanently entrench progressives at the head of the party. So much for the “deal on the rules”. Go to hades, Mitt.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:54pmAfter watching all this unfold on a private ustream webcast today and attending the Ron Paul rally at USF on Sunday I am putting my backing behind Gary Johnson.. The republican party pulled every dirty trick in the book including re-routing Ron Paul delegate buses and refusing them entrance to the RNC event to make sure they could not vote.. It was disgraceful and I’m telling people that if you agree with Ron Paul you have been thrown to the curb today.. There are a lot of disenfranchised young people who out their heart and soul into this and they got taught a good lesson about politics. It was like getting into a ring with a pig, It will get dirty and the pig likes it.. The disenfranchised are welcome at the libertarian party!! http://www.lp.org/
Report Post »mercenary4freedom
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:58pmPauly-ites are acting very silly. Do they still think that Ronnie is going to be th nominee?
Report Post »jzs
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 12:01amAll I know is that you, me, everybody hates Romney. He was in favor of abortion before he against it. There is not a single major issue he hasn’t held polar opposite views on. He doesn’t really have any personal values, he just take whatever position is politically expedient.
Face it and tell me if I’m wrong: you guys can’t stand Romney, he passed Romney-Care and isn’t even a RINO. He’s a liberal – if he’s anything, which he’s not – who just wants to be President more than anything and will change his views in whatever way needed to achieve that goal. You know dang well you’re just hoping he REALLY believes the last thing he said, not the thing he said last week, or a month or a year or two ago.
But, okay, I get it. You hate President Obama more than you would anyone else. That’s okay, but would ya just admit it to yourself?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 12:16am@jzs
“All I know is that you, me, everybody hates Romney”
Well, it appears that you don’t know very much. BTW, what happened to that wonderful spelling you used to have? It’s really gone down hill. Bill W. and Dr. Bob might be able to help you. You can find them under AA in your local phone book. Easter Island does have a phone book, right J-Zak?
Report Post »Nolan Ryan-s Fastball
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 12:18am@ Mercenary4Freedom:
Report Post »Not a single “pauly-ite” thought that Ron Paul would be the nominee. Nor was that their aim at the convention. Their aim, which ought to be applauded by everyone here, was to ensure that the convention was not a dog-and-pony show, that it actually would “work” for the people as conventions were originally intended, and that the Constitutional principles of this country would be upheld by the Republican elites running the “show.”
What IS silly, though…that so many have been fooled by the media to think otherwise, instead of informing themselves with facts. And sadly in this case, it pains me to admit, TheBlaze is now guilty of contributing to the deception/misdirection of the RINOs/Progressives. What a sad day. One I did not anticipate.
Mil Mom
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 12:18am@WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges12
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:33pm
Republican Progressives … just like the Democrat Progressives.
Report Post »It’s a puppet show. Right or Left. Republican or Democrat. Romney or Obama.
It’s a puppet show … while they stay in control
***
Let me give some insight from a web site I was on yesterday”
(From Areminder, ) ” Have you ever rode in a car with a teenage driver when suddenly someone ran a red light from the other way? Your feet went through the floorboard didn’t they? Well the cabal is our teenage driver and their driving our vehicle of state. There’s all kinds of destructive forces running the red light from the other direction and about to plow into us. Romney is the name of the holes where our feet have broken through the floorboards and if enough of us drag our feet we may be able to slow the vehicle enough to avoid the collision, SO EITHER BREAK YOUR ROMNEY HOLE THROUGH THE FLOORBOARD AND HELP DRAG YOUR FEET OR get out and try to flag down the destructive forces coming from the other way before the collision! It’s your decision! (May not be an exact word for word quote.) I’m not sure which site it was on but it bears spreading because we need all the Romney holes to drag our feet as we can get under this vehicle of state!
desertspeaks
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 12:24amEverything our so called government representatives do is a con job! from beginning to end. Doubt my statement?
Report Post »Go check out CAFR reports for towns, cities, counties, parishes, states and their agencies like DOT and the federal government. For decades OUR GOVERNMENT has been using two sets of books of accounting! The one they relentlessly tell us about “the deficit” and the other is the CAFR report.
The cash on hand that our government has in their CAFR is estimated to be between 60 – 114 TRILLION DOLLARS!! Who are they saving this money for? It’s supposed to be used for WE THE PEOPLE! but try to get them to cough it up! No chance!
Our alleged government representatives scream about taxes and deficits and yet they have AT LEAST 60 TRILLION DOLLARS SQUIRRELED AWAY! Sort of makes the 16 trillion dollar so called deficit pale in comparison, doesn’t it!?!
Why have the majority of people NEVER heard of Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (CAFR) ?? The major news outlets receive copies of CAFR reports EVERY YEAR for at least the past 30 years and yet have miserably FAILED to inform us about them. Our government has done it’s very best to NEVER MENTION CAFR and have succeeded to keep the masses IGNORANT of their stash of TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS!
Is WILLFULLY withholding the information about the TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS a treasonous act? That is entirely possible!
These CAFR reports are readily available online to anyone that wishes to read them! READ your cit
Mil Mom
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 12:24am@Toltepeceno
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:40pm
Ron Paul is the best thing that could happen for obama. He is nothing more than a spoiler
Report Post »***
That‘s pretty much the feeling I’ve had all along, his views and the occupants views have always been so much the same and from what I’ve researched soros donates to ALL his campaigns.
Mil Mom
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 12:32am@3monkeysmomma
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:59pm
In AZ, we elected a Ron Paul supporter as our new chairwoman at our convention. The Arizona Rep. Party then said it was so close that there had to be a recount and the recount was declared a tie requiring a run-off election.
That was months ago. We are still waiting.
I have been an active registered Republican my entire adult life and it really sickens me to it become so corrupt
Report Post »***
Unless Romney shocks everyone and runs a Conservative administration, it’s definitely time to talk 3rd party AFTER THIS ELECTION!!! (That way we have 3 years to discuss the how and why and see how many Conservatives and Independents (Most of who have already left the republican party) are willing to join in the effort.
It may be time for the Republican party to join the whigs and torries of olden days!
Hobbs57
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:04amIf you goofballs didn’t try to manipulate the delegate process in the first place, this would have never come to a vote. I watched Ron Paul grinning evilly as he mocked reporters that they shouldn‘t be so sure if he wouldn’t win the primary .. You see, his boys figured out how to manipulate the delegate process currently in place, now you get the back lash…. “The object of the rule change is to prevent state delegation takeovers in states like Massachusetts and Nevada, where Romney delegates were nearly erased by Paul enthusiasts.”….. You people can’t except that majority rules in this republic and there is no majority for Ron Paul. Even if the media gave Ron Paul full coverage, even if Ron Paul was the primary candidate, at this point and this time in REALITY, Paul would get 5% of the national vote. You people just don’t get it, and acting like sneaky little liberals, justifying your manipulation by saying you played by the rules.. Well guess what , you now got the rules changes because you demonstrated exactly what would happen if there was no government in the United States. People like yourselves, would bend and push rules until you got into power, and we would be in the same exact place, if we weren’t in poverty and taken over by a foreign threat first. Does feel very nice does it boys ??
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:13amAnd by the way .. I understand the extent of a con job we have been handed, but electing Ron Paul isn’t going to change that. Most of you have been asleep at the wheel as long as I have, this government didn’t come to be just yesterday. We have to do this at the level of congress first, people we can hold heat to and hold responsible. This change will require time, and putting Obama back in is not going to destroy us, but transform us, into a place where we will never have chance to change this government. This is reality whether you like it or not. I assure you, I am a recovering junky, if anybody understand wanting what I want when I want it , is me. I had to re build a damaged life, and it takes time. GO ahead, take the route you are, fight your way back in, and you will lose. Cut off your nose despite your face, and don’t vote for Romney, then you can feel you have a real purpose in life, as an anarchist. You may never know peace or be able to build any life for your children, but at least you can feel you served a purposeful existence though, accomplishing nothing.
Report Post »Nolan Ryan-s Fastball
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 2:36amA fascinating clip that shows just how little Pat and Stu understand about what is going on here, and they admit it!
http://noisyroom.net/blog/2012/08/28/real-news-mytheos-holts-piece-on-the-blaze-tomorrow/
Barton doesn’t do the best job explaining the real problem, either, which was rule 12, not 15(16).
Report Post »Do your homework, people!
LoveBringsTruth
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 3:05amMytheos Holt could be an undercover Communist. He has been spinning the GOP take over as Ron Paul Fans going nuts. He did it yesterday and he follows up with his alinsky tactics today. He should be fired immediatley.
This sums it up:
“No insight on the delegate takeover?
the website THE BLAZE has done an about face and kicked FreedomWorks right in the face with its support of the GOP delegate takeover through propaganda and alinsky tactics attacking Ron Paul and spinning the delegate story as Crazy Ron Paul Nut Jobs.
What a let down, I knew they had some commi’s working over there (BLAZE) but I didn’t think they would actually backstab freedomworks which Glenn Beck is a huge contributor to.”
Report Post »MDKing
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 6:19amThere hasn’t been a representive form of government in decades. Our freedoms have been lost to us for years. Why is this news to anyone?
Report Post »Kevin The Elder
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 7:04am@PATTY HENRY. I can‘t honestly say that I’ve followed Ron Paul’s record or non-record as you apparently have done, but I must say that if he hasn’t accomplished anything in 30 years, I say Amen. If all of our Washington politicians would have voted ‘no’ to every single bill presented for all those years, I would submit that we probably would be in great shape as a nation right now. Further, you say that he doesn‘t understand that ’those animals in the M. E.’ want to kill or control all of us and that makes me recall all of my years growing up, where our government contained a much more fearful enemy without having this country on a war footing every day. From what I’ve read, Dr. Paul is of a mindset that by our being militarily involved in foreign lands, our presence is creating enemies. I’m not qualified to assess whether that is true or not; however, I must say that when I took a step back and thought of it (and how it was when I served in the Army stationed overseas) it is certainly a position that should cause all of us to think hard on.
Report Post »Economist
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 7:57amHey guess what >>> There is no room for a non-fascist in either party.
What we are witnessing with disbelief and horror is the end cycle of all democratic republics. This is the stage where the oligarchs have been given the keys to the currency printing presses. The political process has now been monetized and co-opted. This experiment will always end where it began. We shall return to slavery, wandering through the greatest depression while the dependant enslaved citizens, banksters, the professional politicians cling to the remaining parts of the government apparatus.
Then the good men who have kept their guns, who value liberty more than life will organize and revolt. There will be blood. The country will return to local, maybe state government, and we will begin again with a new central government that will for a while be restrained. There will be a new burst of freedom, faith and prosperity as the cycle starts anew. In the digital, fiat age, this will happen sooner, not later.
Mr. conservative himself, William F. Buckly Jr. always urged others to vote for the right-most electable candidate possible. >>The problem with that advise is you can do just that and still drift ever leftward and/or statist. Well I refuse to do that anymore, I will stand my ground and say NO MORE! I will always vote my conscience from here on out. I will not vote for Democrat or Republican.
Report Post »GENEPAGLIARI
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 7:59amWell said.
Report Post »fencekicker
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:14amSparky is right! I was listening to Limbaugh yesterday and when he caught wind of this whole episode. He launched into a tirade about this convention being a united convention and the Republican party heads using this opportunity to seize power for the Party at the expense of the State election boards/voters and the Conservative movement (Tea Party). The The Ron Paul folks were really just a side-bar.
Report Post »Dcjones
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:25amEconomist,
VERY WELL SAID!!
You are right.
Systems are always perfectly designed for the results they obtain. Despite a carefully kept delusion to the contrary, the individuals in the various polical seats make no real difference.
We once had a system that achieved the results it was designed for. We had sound money and apportioned tax system and therefore natural limits on goverment.
Idiots, criminals and demogogues have monkeyhammered it beyond any semblance of what it once was over the last hundred years. The system is co-opted. The general public doesn’t even understand the reason for sound money and apportioned taxes anymore. Don’t blame them, its not taught in any schools. Fix or replace? We would need a President, a Senate majority and a House majority all willing to take a chainsaw to the Fed and the DC bureaucracy at at the same time putting their of their lives and livelihoods at risk. Uh not going to happen in this system.
At this point, replace is the only answer. Time for a reset. Neither Democrats or Republicans can get the job done.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:36amThank you sparky, this is what it is, our voice. Our own party want to silence you.
Report Post »christianUSA
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:54amOpinion: Since voter elections of minority representative are forcible removed, disrespectively and by rule changes, by majority as was the case also in several primaries in states how can we believe these candidates or party respect the voters and wishes of US once in office? Actions speak louder than platforms! How are we to believe that they truly do and will actually act on, once elected the economic and liberty rights concerns as Ron Paul and many others in this country since they disrespect his delegates this way? This may have been a foolish and little person’s way to punish Ron for his sticking to his principles and not endorsing Romney or is it as in the past showing the real hypocrisy of the party’s leaders and progressives members just lip-service to reform? Things like this disenfranchises fiscal conservatives.
Report Post »FreeOurRepublic
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 9:24amChaos is a extreme word for a simple disagreement.
?Why is Puerto Rico seated in the front row and Main in the back?
?Why was a foreigner from Puerto Rico allowed to speak and Ron Paul was not?
?Why was TEXAS screaming USA when she spoke and it got blamed on Ron Paul followers that were assigned to the 3 floor bleachers?
Report Post »LaughinWillow
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 9:41amYou people who don‘t care about this just because YOU don’t want to vote for Ron Paul are fools. You don’t get it, do you? This is a move to ensure that there will NEVER be a truly conservative, free-thinking republican candidate, not a simple attack on Ron Paul. They knew Paul had no chance of being the nominee. They’re worried about the future – because when you people vote in Romney (if you succeed, which is looking doubtful) and it becomes blatantly obvious that he is absolutely not one single iota different than Obama (which you blind sheep would already realize if you simply LOOKED AT HIS RECORD), you are going to start screaming for a real conservative, which is NOT in the best interest of this party or the ruling elite who control it (and the dems). They’re making sure you will NEVER GET ONE. And you‘re cheering them because you don’t like the “potheads” who support Paul. Well, good for you, geniuses.
As an aside, I was on a large libertarian forum last night, and this move has now created a movement among libertarians and Paul supporters to vote Obama in protest. Because WE all know that Romney is not change from Obama, and we will not reward him and the GOP for crushing freedom. So enjoy – we may be a small contingent, but we’re dedicated. And we’re voting Obama to protest your candidate.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 10:31amAgree with Sparky’s initial comment. It’s a spin story cut out, Blaze style, to make Paul look bad. Report without bias, gang, please?
“The Paul supporters’ chants were countered by Romney supporters chanting “U-S-A!”
Also, and this is just a suggestion, can we stop the “USA!” chant every time something happens? It made sense at the 1980 Olympic hockey game, but it really doesn’t make sense in many other places. What the hell does “USA!” have to do with RNC shenanigans, one way or the other, precisely? What message is it trying to communicate? It just falls flat as some kind of rebuttal to *anything* except “what country are you from?”.
Report Post »keraz
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 10:53amThis is most definitely a power grab by the RNC and I don’t like it one bit. This goes beyond anything I have see from the Republican party and smacks the very foundation of a federalist for of government right in the face.
I think the RNC just shot themselves in the foot.
Report Post »prouddadoftwo
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 10:55amSparky has it right. Looks like the Republican establishment has made a power grab. Changing the rules and replacing delegates is not my idea of what “anyone but Obama” was about, Romney is nothing more than Obama lite. “The Republicans claim to be the party of the grassroots and everybody has a voice, it’s citizen government and these rules, the rules that they’re trying to put in place, they’re going to take that away from us.” I’ve had it, the republicans have LOST my “hold my nose” vote. I feel that if you are not speaking out against what the RNC is doing then you are all tyranny needs, silence. I never thought I would say this, but if Ron Paul isn‘t on the ballot in November as a third party then I’m writing him in. Regardless of a Romney or Obama win our nation will end up in the same place, one just gets us there faster. I know the whole split the vote argument but at this point I’m over it, if we get another four years of Obama then so be it, maybe that is what it will take for people to finally wake up and fight back against the establishment.
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 11:29amTHIS IS A RINO CONVENTION
John McCain’s party of surrender and defeat has now been divided. Ron Paul got over 100 votes and he was not even allowed in the convention. This party came united and the McCain forces have divided it. The ruling class elites of the GOP did not want to win this election so they could blame the defeat on the TEA and Conservatives. Our TEA and Conservative candidates will win in spite of the RINO Convention. John McCain could be seen pulling the strings on the black and tan Democrat speakers. We could see John McCain behind every speaker.
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 11:33amThe Ruling Class Elite Republicans would rather see the total destruction of our nation than allow TEA and Conservative majority win. The Ruling Class Elite of the GOP do not intend to allow Obama to loose. Obama is too black for the GOP to be allowed to defeat him.
Report Post »Carl Dracula
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 1:11pmThe brazen fraud of the RNC began to show itself with the Iowa and Maine caucuses. The republican governor of Iowa is a traitor to the party and to the conservative cause. Boehner is impotent and useless to those who are true conservatives. The fact that so much lawlessness has been allowed is testament to how deceitful and gutless republican “leadership” has become. Our founding fathers would be aghast at the betrayal and disloyalty.
Report Post »Something is Wrong
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 3:12pm@LAUGHINWILLOW
Report Post »So you‘re telling me that because Ron Paul supporters can’t have their way, you will all vote for an undeniable socialist who was raised by Communists and mentored by Marxists, has already driven our country further into debt than anyone even thought possible, has increased the numbers of Americans on welfare beyond anyone’s predictions, and has been caught on a hot mic telling the Russian Ambassador that after the election he’ll really be able to do a lot more. Is that what you’re telling me? Romney isn’t the best guy politically but whether you like it or not, he really is a far cry from Obama even if only because he was never raised to be a socialist dictator and because his record of financial success indicates that he can at least do one thing right even if he isn’t what we really want. Not to mention that his personal life and the history of where he puts his money (do you even have a clue how massive his charitable contributions over the years have been?) versus Obama who hangs out with terrorists (Bill Ayers) and only helps anyone else when forced indicates that Romney is really just a decent man as opposed to slimeball BO. So you’re telling me you choose certain death for our nation rather than the possibility of another shot in 4 years? You will willingly cast a vote for the exact opposite of Ron Paul and everything he stood for? Wow. If you are what Ron Paul supporters look like, then what did you ever stand for in the first place?
MadAsHeII
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 3:40pmAs I read these posts on here, I come to the conclusion that not many are with the Tea Party. The uproar at the convention was about the rule changes that hurt any chance of grassroots candidates into the future. That is why Freedom Works Tea Party members are jumping off the Romney train and toward Gary Johnson at a fast pace. I believe Romney has shot himself in the foot. Not only will he not get the Paul crowds votes, which they say undeniably they will not, but he is losing Tea Party voters left and right because of this power grab the Paul supporters were all up in arms about. The Republican Party has not been able to bring solidarity to the party, but have, because of their own ignorance, caused more division.
Report Post »Wilma
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 4:26pmFor those who still think this story is about Ron Paul delegates here is a link to yesterday’s (8/28) Mark Levin radio show. The download is free. His explanation of what happened regarding the rule changes and why it was a power grab begins at the 15 minute mark and continues for at least 10 minutes.
http://www.marklevinshow.com/sectional.asp?id=32930
Disclaimer: I think Ron Paul and his Paulbots were wrong to make so much trouble in the first place.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 9:55amAhh yes, Ron Paul, that fine Republican….. What? you mean he isn’t a Republican?!?!?! You mean he lied?!?!?! “Never!”
Report Post »rparrny
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:34amI agree, this is the second story in recent times I have read that has sensationalized a story and put an unrealistic spin on it. Shame on Scott Baker, I expect more from the blaze….
Report Post »Scott, don’t turn the blaze into the NY post, do not sell out truth for hits on the web….
Get back to honest reporting.
undrprsr
Posted on August 30, 2012 at 1:01pmThis IS too both Sparky77 and INREADEFERENCE, the left has worked slowly over the last 40+ years to get to Odumbo,DO YOU REALLY THINK WE CAN SHIFT FAR RIGHT IN ONE ELECTION?Romney was not my 1st choice(RON PAUL IS BRAIN DEAD ON FORIEGN POLICY,PULL YOUR HEAD OUT,AMERICA CAN’T BE ISOLASIONISTS),But Paul Ryan IS more CONSERVATIVE THAN MITT(8YRS and RYAN THE NOMINEE) then keep moving to the RIGHT! YOU MORONS would vote for PON PAUL,GARY JOHNSON AND GIVE FOUR MORE TO ODUMBO!Want a Libertarian Party PRESIDENT? GET 30% of the House,Senate,Governors,THEN RUN! OR SUPPORT MITT/RYAN!
Report Post »martyinhagerstown
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:36pmRomney 1st and foremost, then get to work on tea party candidates for the midterms.
The GOP will be transformed via dilution of the old guard or they will assume a spot in history next to the Whigs.
I don’t care which but I do know the status quo is over.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:41pmThe republicans are on their way out, the TEA PARTY is on its way in……………I hope…
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:43pmAgree 100%
Report Post »PlowMan
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:47pmRon Paul is a moron!! He needs to get behind Romney! This country didn’t get to this point in one election cycle and it will hardly get back to where it needs to be in one cycle!! This old man needs to go to a resort and live out his life peacefully. Let Rand take the family torch. At least he is reasonable. We need to keep pushing for a return to our constitution but it has to be a slow methodical process or we will erupt in civil war.
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:50pmLibertarians are on the way in if the TEA party realizes that’s who they really are. Between the two there’s enough actual votes to unseat the crooks of both parties. I’m actually starting to feel good. The two party scam is falling apart. People are FINALLY waking up it seems. Thank God.
Report Post »OlefromMN
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:52pmAmen Mary!
Everytime somebody calls me a party hack I simply tell them exactly what you so eloquently just did. Rather than start a whole new third party, we will find a party that can be molded to fit us. It takes time, but we are all guilty of being asleep for decades.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:00pmRomney is on notice. I will work diligently to get him elected. I will donate to his campaign. I will do all this because Obama cannot be allowed to continue in the oval office. He and his gaggle of marxists, corruptocrats and incompentents are a death sentence to this country. First order of business is the removal of Obama above all else. Then if Romney is a disappointment he will be dealth with in the next primary. The Tea Parties have not been silenced and they are a potent political force. They’re waiting to see if Romney delivers.
Report Post »As for Ron Paul…he didn’t stand a chance of winning against Obama. Rand Paul has endorsed Romney…that’s good enough for me.
OlefromMN
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:01pmMy apologies. It is Marty, not Mary.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:05pm@Plowman
Constitutionalist = Moron
Yep, pretty much speaks volumes about the state of the Republican party. Enjoy Boehner, McCain and Romney (if he wins). Can’t wait to see what the REPLACE Obamacare with. Of course, you good little sheep would accept anything.
Report Post »UnsilentMajority
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:10pmAre you saying you prefer Obama Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve?
Report Post »Wilma
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:20pmGood luck with that. As of today, the RNC is in control. That is what was at stake today.
Report Post »ExTex
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:20pmThank you PLOWMAN. Finally, a voice of reason. Paulbots want everything NOW! And, they want Ron Paul as POTUS. Neither can feasibly happen. You’re too extreme libertarians. America (as a whole) will never accept your terms. For instance:
1. Drastic austerity cuts in the budget like slashing entitlements will cause civil unrest.
2. Your assumption that if we remove ourselves from “foreign entanglements” and bring all the troops home from all over the world everything will be fine. We aren’t the Swiss. The world counts on us to be the “big brother” on the playground so the bullies won’t pick on everybody. And “big brother” is NOT the Orwellian reference here.
3. Saying that Iran should have a nuclear weapon like everyone else is lunacy. Everyone else hasn’t threatened to wipe us off the map repeatedly. If a guy says he‘s gonna blow your head off first chance he gets to buy a gun but doesn’t quite have the means yet…Are you gonna hand him the gun?
4. Stating that it‘s America’s fault for the 9-11 attacks for having troops on muslim soil is comparing apples to oranges. If they want to attack our forces then fine. They attacked innocent people. Not fine. And certainly not our fault. Ron Paul agrees more with UBL than he does his fellow Americans. How nutty is that?
Ok, you get point. Your positions are just plain nuts. And your behavior is just as nuts. Stop acting like a bunch of loons and people might listen. You (RP) had your chance
Report Post »The Giver
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:27pmThe GOP will not allow the Tea Party to take over. Look at what they did to Sarah Palin and what they did with duly elected state delegates sent to the Convention. They want to stifle dissent.
Report Post »dcx10music
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:49pm@ UNSILENTMAJORITY
Show me one – just one – post on this entire site where Rothbardian says anything about preferring Obama to Romney.
This is the problem I have with so many conservatives on this website. They just assume that libertarians like Obama because they don’t fall in line with the GOP establishment. It’s simple: people such as Rothbardian and myself see Mitt Romney for what he is – a big spending, big government hack who has minimal regard for the Constitution. He and Obama are two sides of the same worthless coin.
As long as the GOP establishment keeps putting up horrid lip-service “conservatives” like Mitt Romney and John McCain, they will continue to not receive my support, just like the Democrats will not receive my vote as long as they continue putting up people like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
Report Post »Naps
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:53pmR.I.P GOP!!!! By electing Romney as your puppet for 2012. You have finally hammered the last nail in your coffin. I must say that an election between Mitt for Brains and Barry Soetoro will inspire me to do ONE thing. Stock up on ammo and dry foods. With these two yahoo’s running for office,the Constitution is nothing more than a doormat. Dark times ahead,dark times ahead indeed.Ron Paul is and will always be my President. So Glenn,Rush,and any other talking head on the MSM can go straight to hell. Enjoy another 4 years of NoBama you Beckistani’s.
Report Post »woodypynes
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:08pm@ EXTEX:
Report Post »I agree with you that my guy (RP) will not get enough votes to be the POTUS. I totally concede that. But, what we have witnessed during this selection process (as well as today’s convention) only further proves what we are saying. Take a look back at the ‘choices’ we have been given……Reagan/Carter: Carter sucked and Reagan raised the debt limit numerous times AND granted amnesty to illegals (I think all of us on the right are opposed to both)….Bush Sr/Dukakis (NWO ring a bell?)….Bush/Clinton (wow, what a choice we had that time)….Clinton/Dole (see previous election)….Bush/Gore (RINO vs nutcase)….Bush/Kerry (RINO vs nutcase)….McCain/Obama (RINO vs nutcase). I see a pattern, EXTEX. I hate Obama’s policies as much as you do, but I will not support the same BS we have been spoonfed for decades. It is time you vote FOR something, not against something. You can soak up all the BS these schills spew, but if you vote for Romney you are supporting NDAA and the Patriot Act. If you are OK with things like that, then don’t log on here and B@@CH about your liberty eroding. And don’t tell me a vote for liberty (RP) is a vote for tyranny (BO) when R/R is practically a photocopy of BO. I TOTALLY agree with you that BO sux and I‘m sure you’re thinking “RP can’t win. Why is he ‘throwing his vote away’?” I’m not. I’m going to cast my vote for liberty again and be one of millions who do the same. Once the #s are there, you sheeple will flock to liberty.
Individualism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:38pmwe need to make sure this animal does not take the white house. so our revolution can continue and not be given a false label under that evil man.
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:11pmThe TEA Party from day one has known this battle would consist of two fronts…the first front being the most important (right now) getting Obama out of office becuase without a solvent nation there is no point in replacing the establishment Repubs…there won’t be a country to rebuild. So obviously the second front is ridding the current GOP party of it’s establishment/progressive friendly faction. The latter will take time and dedication while at the same time keeping our eye and grip on the direction the nation takes. Just as it took the liberals the better part of a century to complete the transformation of the Democrat party , we must have the patience to cleanse the GOP of it’s non conservative elements no matter how long that takes. In the meantime should we prevail this fall make certain to keep intense pressure on our reps to carry out our wishes. We won;t win every battle but we will win enough of them to win the overall goal…..in the end as it was in the very beginning, the direction we take, is up to us.
Report Post »WindyDualism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:32pmIndy
Report Post »“animal”? Really? You a vegan now? Stay stoned and classy. You, Indy, are the exact reason people shy away from Doc Paul. Carry on.
The-Monk
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:09pm@WindyDualism
Hey dipstick…. trolls need to be ignored, not mimicked.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 9:47am@ Marty………agree…………..Good bye Rinos….hello……. tea party…but it’s going to take some time.
Report Post »NILAP
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:36pmNow that Romney has shown his true colors, after his loss to Obama, Sarah Palin who opposes this betrayal of grassroots Tea Partyers will be our Presidential nominee in 2016 whether Republican or third party.
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:59pmRepublican? LOL. With these rules it doesn’t matter who you select, if the delegates don‘t like Sarah Palin she won’t be the nominee regardless of anyone’s vote. Now it‘s up to whoever they want to nominate and that’s that. Wake up. What they just did is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what REPUBLICan means, you understand that right? The whole representation thing was just voted down today by the REPUBLICan party.
Report Post »Nolan Ryan-s Fastball
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:13pm…the delegates that the RNC will appoint themselves. Excellent point, Kevin. This maneuver was hardly “Republican.” RINO’s! I am disgusted.
Report Post »To paraphrase Patrick Henry: “Give me liberty, or give me Obama!”?! Has it come to this?
nealb4zodd
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:21pmRomney will NOT lose, you putz.– you need to vote for Romney so Obama and his crappy job and economy killing policies can go.
Don‘t be a Debbie downer because your guy didn’t win.- Romney IS our next president and he’ll be great.
Report Post »Wilma
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:23pmKevin you are absolutely correct. Why is this so difficult for others to understand?
Report Post »Nolan Ryan-s Fastball
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:42pm@NealB4Zodd
Report Post »Why do I need to vote for Romney if he’s not going to lose (who’s the putz)?
Romney was Obama(care) before Obama was, and the Ryan pick for VP worked to make me forget that. The veil has been lifted on the GOP. Perhaps there’s a chance to save the country now, after all.
Individualism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:34pmlets do everything we can to insure a romney loss this november. we don’t want anyone in death camps.
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:45pmGovernor Mitt Romney has signed into law a permanent assault weapons ban that he says will make it harder for criminals to get their hands on these guns.
“Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts,” Romney said, at a bill signing ceremony on July 1 with legislators, sportsmen’s groups and gun safety advocates. “These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”
Report Post »WakingSheep
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:31pmGood luck……
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:43pm@Nealz:
Nope. Can’t support election fraud and disenfranchisement. Not from Barry Soetoro and the Communists, and not from Willard McBain and the Fascists.
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:48pmThere is no tomorrow as far as politics are concerned IMHO…the GOP , as it is now constituted (warts and all), is the only viable choice right now. 2016 is 4 years too late. Obamacare cannot be allowed to fully constute….it must be repealed before it’s implimented, period.
Report Post »soybomb315_II
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:10pm@NILAP
Report Post »Dont you see? That is EXACTLY what the establishment RINOs are afraid of and that is why they are changing all the rules and consolidating power – in order to prevent that in 2016
jonnydoe
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 4:01pmTime for a new party. One that actually believes and abides by the Constitution.
Report Post »no_more_harkin
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:36pmIf Obama wins again, and stays his current course, our country will be 4 more years in the hole, but maybe this is what we need to eject any semblance of communism/socialism/marxism out of the country. The RNC will learn it’s lesson when it hits rock bottom, and their still quite a ways to go. Perhaps our country just isn’t in bad enough shape yet. Maybe we need 4 more years of the worse president ever to really sink it in. So that even the most die-hard lib will either face reality, or be shamed out of voting.
Report Post »Another thought is, we’re on the expressway to collapse, and government takeover of everything. Regardless of the R or D after their name, we’re all on the train to socialism, just the D party pushes the pedal a little harder.
hwwgandolf
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:13pmnow all the people that said anyone but obummer will get the lite version with mitt. like it has been said before. you get the gov. that you deserve. well the people had a chance to vote for someone that would stick with the constitution, but 98% of the people could not live bye the constitution they would have to give up all there freebies and would have to fend for themselves . they would rather be socialist, that way they don,t have to think of how to take care of themselves. to bad our country has come to this, but it will not change till it is to late. will we be like Syria. if so what will the rest of the world do. will they help us get our country back , or support the socialist stay in power. you decide .
Report Post »fedup ohio
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:48pmYou are right. I have been saying for years, the Rino’s are taking us off a cliff in a freight train, the dems are using a bullet train. Unfortunately, Obama is going to win. Conservatives have not completely stepped up to the plate. We are too divided. I can not believe what I’m hearing from some republicans.
Report Post »WE NEED TO PULL TOGETHER AND NOT WORRY ABOUT MSM AND DEMS. We are in the middle of the road and getting ran over, time and time again. God Bless this Great Country
F_This
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:07pmThere is a point of no return involved in that sinking you’re talking about.
Report Post »Paul Revere
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:35pmGlenn Beck is a traitor self indulged pig! You too, stu and Pat. You conned your followers.
Report Post »UnsilentMajority
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:08pmStiffle yourself tool. Its hard to con someone that already pays attention.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:44pmStupid GOP should have embraced the RP delegates, many of the states did. Drowning them out was childish.
The RP people acted like children and were pushy. Their goal was to infiltrate the delegates and get as many seats as possible – so they shouldn’t have been surprised the GOP pushed back.
Despite the fact that Romney’s people bought the nomination, Romney won and it’s basically his party. In NC we could only muster 10% for RP, that is NOT enough to own the convention.
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:28pm@Paul Revere
You’re a kook. Step away from the computer screen and go for a walk. Then…get a life.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:47pmIf the whole thing had been square all along, I would not have minded losing honestly. I might have even supported the Republican.
But with all the hubbub that’s gone on, forget it. The Republican party is a dead letter. Stick a fork in it.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:32pmPaul isn’t going to win, why are they worried about the Maine delegates that were voted in at the state convention. The Republicans are killing themselves. Don’t blame us. Anyone here with any intelligence realizes what they RNC did to those delegates is wrong, and I’m sure the Dems Superpacs are already working on the commercial. You all need to stop listening to the Neocons. I mean they‘re just hawkish democrats in the first place meaning they’re stupid.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:41pmHi Justangry,
I saw the Maine votes (live); Romney got 17 and Dr. Paul got 10.
Were there more than 17 delegate votes total?
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:43pmNobody with a since of patriotism can think this is right. I am actually really pissed they used a USA chant. What part of USA is changing the rules last second when things arent going your way?
The GOP deserves this loss. I just hope it awakens people who have been listening to the GOP establishment and talk radio.
We are going to collapse, I had hope we would come out of it stronger and more free. I think we will come out of this a socialist/communist global state.
Report Post »resme
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:45pmThey really are democrats. Back a few decades ago the Trotskyites from the democrat party switched over to republican party. All I’ve heard today is repeal and replace obamacare from the rnc speeches. Good luck holding mitt romney and john boehner feet to the fire,hahahahaha.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:47pmHey THE-MONK! Thanks for the “live” reporting! What the heck happened with the rules change? That was BS!
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:50pmI guess nobody sees the irony in using “U-S-A” to drown out dissent.
It was a good run that America had. We should be proud.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:55pm“Were there more than 17 delegate votes total?”
Oops, I meant “27 delegate votes total”.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:59pmHi Copatriots,
I don’t know but, the RNC has been s c r e w i n g the Ron Paul delegates for a while now.
This should really be a fair fight but, it’s not.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:05pmHi Copatriots,
Here‘s something else that’s screwy; the tally broad where the votes are totaled only lists “Romney” and Others”. They should have everyone’s name listed including Dr. Paul’s.
The vote is 1992 to 200 presently.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:08pmI really worry the RNC was “blowing smoke” with accepting almost all of Freedomworks platform. Starting to really feel for the Paulites.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:10pmHey THE-MONK, is it as contrived as it seems? Boehner really pffed me off…..more than usual.
The-Monk
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:22pmHi Resme,
That‘s what I saw but now it’s back to normal? Weird….
Report Post »dukielouie
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:23pmThe Tea.912, and liberty movements have just been silenced by the rino’s. The rules change will make it hard for the grassroots. Romney,Bush,Boehner, and the like will get no help from me.They are Globalist elites who want to hold on to there power. Rove and his PAC . Crony Capitalism Even Cupp and the Blaze coverage is coving for the the party. I am ready for a 3rd party.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:29pmHi Copatriots,
“…is it as contrived as it seems?”
Yep. When the original 8 Republican candidates got whittled down to two, it seemed like it was predetermined that Romney was going to win and Dr. Paul was not. This is one reason why all the Dr. Paul supporters are so mad.
Now, I was never for Dr. Paul but…. not a fair fight at all. : (
copatriots
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:41pmI so agree, THE-MONK. Not shocked, though. Romney was chosen 4 years ago.
I said on another post about the Rules Change that it almost seems that the RNC wants to lose again. Fox News (the only day this year I have actually watched them) is making it sound like it is such a kumbaya success. But, it really comes across as spin. What’s the pulse from the scene?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:43pm@dukielouie
The Tea Party and Freedom Works have been concentrating or the Senate to win it back, keeping the House and not so much of anything on the POTUS race.
Report Post »WindyDualism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:51pm@ Monk
Report Post »The more bong hits you take, the larger the 17 Paulbots look.
copatriots
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:18pmOh my gosh……Boehner’s speech and bar story was the worst thing I have ever heard. It is so difficult to believe this guy is the Speaker of the House!
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:21pmHeehee The-Monk, Occupiers like the finer things in life. They are only as committed as the weather report. LOL
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:33pmObama deserves to win against Romney since he won his primary much more fairly.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:40pmbecause they are the communists.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:56pmRon Paul did not actually win any state primaries or caucuses. Most of the delegates he sent to the convention he won through cleverly exploiting procedural quirks and flaws in the system, so there is no point in whining that the other side is cheating or acting unjustly when they do exactly the same thing.
Report Post »resme
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 12:32am@monk, Ya I repeated all the steps. this time my old picture is gone, I just see my name in the spot where the picture is supposed to be.
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 12:51amMonk, thanks for the link…interesting music (beautiful flute work)….you might enjoy this music (Shpongle) as well….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsIEvj6RgsE&feature=related
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 1:41amHi Resme,
Have you rebooted your computer? Remember the last time you had to restart IE?
Put your avatar to the default (nothing avatar), clear the cache, reboot and put the Gremlin avatar back. Keep me updated.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 1:45am@Puddle Duck
Thanks for the link. It’s a bit too “techno” for me.
I really appreciate that you thought of me. : )
Report Post »Clive
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:28pmwell, this is going swimmingly.
Report Post »freethinking
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:51pmFocus people. This is do or die. Well.. sink or swim. No that’s not it either…
Report Post »Stop the fringe stuff.
luxlife
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:13pmNo.
Report Post »Election does not matter.
watersRpeople
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:27pmAnd not only have Republicans not taken severe steps to repeal Obamacare, but to-boot they endorse a candidate who brought a similar thing as Obamacare to Massachusetts. The Republican establishment is finished.
Report Post »Tom70
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:26pmWhat is with all the Republican elite’s diddling with the rules. I can understand booing ***** but for his spineless lack of leadership more than anything else
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:36pmThis is only going to get worse. The GOP had their chance. A third party is for sure going to be created after this. We are not going to have a candidate shoved down our throat out of fear.
That is the GOP, the party of fear.
Fear the Muslims.
Fear the Libertarians.
Fear Obama.
Fear individual freedom.
Fear free thought.
A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama. The only difference you GOP sheep had going for you was you didnt act like the Democrats. I guess you fixed that.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:39pmHear Hear Mutiny!!
Report Post »fancynancy
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:42pmDang, they make me mad.
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:43pmBecause the Paulers won Maine and their voice was removed. The finagling of the rules will make the rigging next go around much easier. Face it, when the Paulers said this thing was being rigged, any people called them looney, well this is the proof.
Too many people are on the wrong side, and ignorance is no excuse. Wake up before you vote for the same failed system that’s gotten us to where we are at. What does Romney stand for anyway? At least he’s not a commie? Really? That’s why he should be President? I’d rather vote for a stupid slogan like Hope and Change.
I told you before. The Paulers are not going to vote for Romney. WON’T HAPPEN. TEA party types better hop on the wagon. A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama and what you are seeing is the solidification of that fact.
Jump ship or Obama will be the President.
I mean if I should vote for Romney because at least he’s not a commie, than I can vote for Paul because at least he’s not a Progressive.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:57pmMUTINY:
Report Post »I used to read your comments and see some light, but no more. If the “process” is your issue then make that point and stick to it. You sound like a fool comparing Romney to Obama when the crux of your issue is the system. Not, you, not INDY, SOY or KID have said how to continue the momentum gained in 2010 if you DON’T get your way this go ’round. Wins in the house were largely conservative wins but rather than build on those you sound like panty-wasted little sissies. You take on the look of OWSers for sure. So Romney wins…what next. Nahhhh, you aren’t at all good with delayed gratification.
Mutiny
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:31pm@inlight
What? My problem isnt the system. My problem is Romney believes in 90% of the same crap Obama does. On the major issues they are practically identical. Had the GOP nominated a conservative there wouldnt have been any disputes and everyone would be focused on getting rid of Obama. Instead Romney got shoved down our throats and people with common sense wont vote for a guy with the same policies as Obama.
As for the “system”, you think its ok the GOP changed the rules last night? You think its ok that no delegates are actually bound but they were sent letters by the Romney lawyers warning them they would be sued if they didnt vote Romney. You think its ok, that Maine’s delegates nominated by the people of Maine were thrown out and replaced by delegates picked by establishment insiders?
Hell man, use google and see it yourself. This happened in many of the states. The GOP cheated. They are no different than the DNC now.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:06pmMUTINY:
TO be clear I was talking about your thoughts regarding the two-party system. For me – how the GOP operates has an inseparable connection. I agree, it’s a mess. I‘ve listed here many times what POTUS has done that I don’t believe Romney would do.
I‘ve studied plenty of history through all this and don’t believe it will ever get fixed with career politicians. What’s his name in Hi with what, 49 years in the senate? I know that was never the plan.
In the end I give credit where it is due and the Tea Party has been instrumental in bringing focus and change. I have talked to many in my local tea party and shared many of the Paul philosophies and they are not the same. Sorry, just the feedback I got when I searched it out. The Tea Party here has no interest in collapsing the system as we know it. Doesn’t like 3rd party idea, loves Sarah Palin, fully support Mitt Romney and genuinely excited about Paul Ryan. Not sure what else to say, but they do know that we have a better chance of building from where we are now with R&R than 4 more years of POTUS Obama. I believe that to be a fact.
BTW, Ryan budget is accelerated with additional growth and I believe is based on abysmal 2.0% growth +/-.
Report Post »Nolan Ryan-s Fastball
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:25pmHoly Smokes. Romney had solidified my vote, against my better judgment, when he selected Ryan as his VP candidate. But these shenanigans prove that he truly is a RINO, and the Ryan move was a charade/smokescreen to deceive Tea Partiers and libertarians like myself. If they don’t rectify this, I’m voting third party in November. This depresses me as Obama will win. But better to have Democrats/Progressives/Communists responsible for this country’s ruin, than having a RINO tarnish everything our GOP has stood for in the past. I am losing hope that things can turn for the better any time soon. I fear things are going to get much, much worse for a good while longer before enough people hold these people’s feet to the fire. But I won’t stop fighting for the principles I believe in. Go Tea Party!
Report Post »The only thing that gives me pause for voting third party is this quote from Thomas Jefferson (in a letter to Thomas Cooper): “…but we cannot always do what is absolutely best. Those with whom we act, entertaining different views, have the power and the right of carrying them into practice. Truth advances, and error recedes step by step only; and to do to our fellow-men the most good in our power, we must lead where we can, follow where we cannot, and still go with them, watching always the favorable moment for helping them to another step.”
Time to pray and ask God for guidance…
escape_from_socialism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:31pmSame here, what is wrong with this guy?
Report Post »Ryan pick – OK
then embracing Romneycare – huh???
and now this???
Bush all over again????
scndchance
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:48pmvalid points all, but at this time, if we split the vote, it will guarantee another 4 yrs on the path to communism. I am afraid there will be no turning back from that. I have wrestled with the thought that we deserve what we are getting but believe me you do not want socialism or communism. Been there unfortunately, and it is hell. We have to stop the bleeding first, then work on healing. We need to kick the bums out one by one. It is an uphill battle but we cannot stop now.
Report Post »GOD BLESS THE USA
Belwraith
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:18pmI don’t agree with what the Republican Establishment did….but you can’t deny that it was, at least in part, in response to what the RP campaign/supporters were doing, ex: acting like they were in support of Romney but then vote for Paul at the convention and not voting in the convention in a way that reflects what the people they’re supposed be representing want. If the establishment wants to alienate the grassroots voters, let them. Sometimes people learn their lessons the hard way.
Report Post »pinostabaum
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:40pmscndchance, romney is not going to stop the bleeding. elect conservatives down-ticket, but romney may be worse for the cause then having a clear enemy conservatives in the house and senate can oppose. its kind of like we say in california: “only a republican governor can raise taxes”. a progressive republican like romney will be able to push through all sorts of government expanses through a friendly congress, just like bush did.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:00pmBetter four years on the road to Communism, with erstwhile patriots’ hair on fire, than to have them sleep through eight years on the road to Fascism.
2016. Libertarian or Constitution Party. The Republican Party will join the Whigs. Bye, suckers.
Report Post »Twobyfour
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 12:49amNorm D. Plume, You have no idea what are you talking about. I lived through 30 years of it. It is dark evil that I don’t wish anyone have to experience. Either you’re insane, or you’re Obot. Communism would not be easy to dislodge, once it sets fully in, an I’ve no doubt that is what Obama (or his puppeteers have in mind. It my create a momentum that would entrench the regime for 40-50 years. I don’t know how old you are, but you may not live to see it dislodged. Furthermore, I think this would be a prep stage for another change down the road, a takeover by Islamists. A majority of population would be docile enough, trained to respond positively to authority and maybe tired of communism that Islamism may then seem as something better. It is not, but people may not know it in sanitized information vacuum.
You want to lose all your freedoms and have no chance of regaining them? Stick with Obamao.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 1:35am@TwoByFour:
It‘s not that I’m insane (well, not totally,) or an Obot (certainly not.)
I just, honestly, don’t see how fascism (Romney) is going to be better for us than communism (Obama, putatively.) Honestly, I don’t even see Obama being as communist as he is fascist (those big banks, those green energy companies, those car companies, are all corporations, after all.)
Do I think communism would be a horror, that might not end in my lifetime? I know it to be. Had we not defeated Hitler in 1945, we might have found out how much horror existed in a unitary fascist state, too. I suspect that the horror would be just as horrible, and just as deep, and last just as long as the communist systems. I hope to not find out. Especially not in America.
Given that I cannot see a practical difference between Romney and Obama on policy — and I have looked, and I have asked Romney supporters to show me in any tangible, meaningful way, just how these men differ — I am forced to draw a close comparison between Obama‘s and Romney’s demonstrated character. With this demonstration today, we see that there is no difference between them as regards the rule of law, following those rules, fair play, good sportsmanship and an honest, competitive American spirit.
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Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 1:47amSince they differ in no real way, insofar as their policies and their respect for our basic liberties, and since there seems to not be any tangible difference in their temperaments, I must ask, why I should settle for twelve years of Obama instead of merely eight?
Why, when there is a real candidate out there, whose name is on the ballot, who has the backing of a legitimate political organization, and who has proved himself a capable executive (eight years the governor of a state, who started with a fiscal deficit, but who balanced the budget for eight straight years and left the state with money in the bank, whose philosophy demands respect for my basic human rights,) why should I vote for Romney, who offers none of these qualities?
What possible reason on Earth could I have, aside from stark raving LUNACY, to vote FOR a fascist, no matter the magic rune cast behind his name on the ballot? Why, oh why, would I EVER vote to enslave myself and my children? Because that is what is coming, my friend. There is an economic and societal collapse in motion, and we will live to see it. And soon. And you know it.
What happens during a collapse, in the modern world? If you said, “someone tries to take control”, then you get the gold star! Who should I rather see in charge? Fascist A, or Fascist B? My choice: NEITHER.
How can I wake up you guys, so that you can see what I see, to snap you out of your stupor? What will it take? What line must be crossed, before y
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:24pm2010 was the Republican parties last chance – they haven’t repealed Obamacare. It’s over for the Republican establishment.
Report Post »Deadbang
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:52pmhow in the name of god can they repeal obamacare they only have control of the house. Are people really this ignorant or just trying to cause trouble. If this is the collective intelligence of the Paul supporters, it’s no wonder they believe every conspiricy theory that comes down the pike. If the delegates from Maine would have gone to the convention to do the job the voters from their state sent them there to do they would have been seated. Face it Ron Paul, although he has some interesting ideas he has no political capital if he couldn’t get anything in the time he has had inside the beltway he would fare no better as president.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:04pmIf Willard McBain had the delegate count to get the nod, anyway, why didn’t he just let the process play out peacefully?
A bit of hooting and hollering from the Paultroons, and Romney gets the nomination, and more or less good will would prevail.
Now, we have a Republican Party controlled by a dictator. And they expect people of good conscience to support this man? Not even if I was a Romney supporter, would I support that ticket now.
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 1:14am@watersRpeople
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:24pm
2010 was the Republican parties last chance – they haven’t repealed Obamacare. It’s over for the Republican establishment
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The House HAS voted again and again to repeal it AND to defund it, prince harry won’t bring the bills to the floor of the senate and boehner is to cowed by whatever he was told on that first golf outing (I wonder if they pointed out how many CAIR employees worked in the house and senate?) to try to hold his ground so IF YOU HAVEN’T NOTICED THE SPENDING BILLS PASSED IN THE LAST 2 YEARS ALL ORIGINATED IN THE SENATE, THEY NAMED THEM THE SAME AS THE HOUSE & MADE THE HOUSE VOTE ON THEM!!!
watersRpeople
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:22pmThe Republicans are going to appear dysfunctional and divided, and the Democrats will appear unified, and voters will hand Obama another victory.
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:31pmThat’s what happens when you worship security, money and power over liberty and goodness.
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:14pmLiberty and goodness…I like that.
Report Post »Stelex
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:15pmVoting yourself money is exclusive to the dems. And trolls with cheeto’s on there tummy tend to answer themselves. Not sure how you get Repubs voting for money and security. You should try pretzels, they don‘t leave a stain and the dye doesn’t effect your thought process.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:21pmYou Paul supporters, I do understand your conviction and passion. But, at the same time I still recall what H. Ross Perot brought us…twice. It can and will happen all over again to give 0bama more time to bring this country to it’s knees. I personally am not found of Mitt, but less fond of Paul or Johnson. Mitt has far more supporters that either of the latter. It will pay dividends to beat 0bama. Yeah, I know. Afterwards we’ll have to deal with Mitt and let him know that we will hold his feet to the fire, or he will be the next one termer.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:25pmFond, not found.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:26pmYup Ross Perot brought us Clinton and Clinton brought us the majority of seats in both houses and in the only time in American history the Government shrank in size. Throughout American history the houses usually go to the party that is opposite of the President. Congress controls the purse strings so I would rather have control of both houses than control of the Executive branch.
Report Post »resme
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:26pmI guess you love democracy, Bye republic. Voted away and cheered away by the rnc.
Report Post »Clive
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:26pmbuddy, face it, mitt ain‘t winnin’ sh1t.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:26pmI get what you’re saying, but we weren’t dealing with the Patriot Act, NDAA, Drones, Cispa, HR347, etc… back then. It’s kind of a whole new ball game where desperately clinging to our rights.
Report Post »jadams1214
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:30pmi bet you were going to hold republicans feet to the fire when they were nominating a candidate too. how did that work out for you.we got the most liberal of all the candidates.
Report Post »bravjim
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:31pmIt is not the Paul supporters bringing this country to it’s knees. The tea party delivered in 2010, and we’ll deliver again, but not with these kind of shenanigans going on. I established it in 2009 that if the establishment pulls this kind of crap, they will lose my vote, period. They want the votes the tea party can deliver, but they don’t want to have to follow through. If they lose this election, it’s on them, not the Paul supporters. If they want to deliver a unified convention, then do so by allowing the voice of the grass roots to be heard. Otherwise, it’s not going to be close.
Report Post »XScramblerX
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:32pmSo vote for Mitt? Paul supporters are the reason you have a Conservative Congress. Thank you Paul supporters! Thanks for bringing the FED into the light, because the progressive Romney wouldn’t have.
Report Post »Don’t give these progressives any support. They want to laugh at us and call us names, so I say give em Obozo for another four! That should wake em quick!
KevINtampa
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:36pmRomney=Obama
The way I see it you just like the way Romney sells progressive progress better than Obama. A vote for Romney is a vote for the same failed system so many “conservatives” say they oppose.
Romneyites are worse than Obamers. At least the Obamers know what they are voting for at this point, Romneyites seem to enjoy lying to themselves a bit too much I’m afraid.
Seriously, you want me to vote for a Republican governor out of Massachusetts? Sorry, my eye’s are wide open. I will not support someone who has stated he supports the secret detention of American citizens based merely on the whims of the federal executive branch. I cannot do it. It’s not within my principles to do such a thing, sadly, Romney supporters can. For that I weep for my country.
God bless and save the republic.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:45pmHow exactly do you hold his feet to the fire? I really want to know.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:29pmFREEDOMOVERFEAR:
Report Post »Congress controls the purse strings. You serious…? No budget in the Senate this whole election cycle, $6 Trillion in new debt and congress holds the purse strings? Nonsense. The presence of POTUS gives Reid the un-constitutional authority (associative power) to do nothing but spend. Yet the Paul folks will vote to continue that to make their point.
circleDwagons
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:47pm@rj. I respectfully disagree. Bush 1 got us clinton. Bush 2 and mccain got us obama. I voted for GWB because i knew algore and was afraid. I voted for mccain/ Palin because i knew who obama was. When obama wins reelection it won‘t be Paul’s fault. When will the Republicans Stand?
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:12pm@InLight…
Nope. Paul supporters (now simply Lovers of Liberty) will not vote to continue Obama’s malfeasance.
Neither will they, if they stand on principle, vote to allow Romney to usher in a new and different set of authoritarian bull droppings.
Look at what just happened at the convention. Look at who directed it.
Tell me, please, if you see any difference between Dictator Obama and a would-be Dictator Romney.
Perhaps Romney is worse, because he feels no compunction about simply slapping people who would be his allies (if he had any real love for liberty and our republic) right across the face with a big, dead mackerel. Obama at least has enough class to play nicey-nicey with folks on his side. Heck, he won’t even pull the rug out from under the NBPP!
Report Post »WakingSheep
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:48pmRoss Perot would have probably brought us at least a balanced budget if you idiots could see past the party lies.
Report Post »Good luck with whomever the mob makes worthy of ruling again….
Paul Revere
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:21pmYou will be very sorry for the lack of respect you’ve shown the Ron Paul message.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:27pmI watched it unfold on ustream it was corruption at it’s worst..All were claiming railroaded! They adopted the new RNC rules as well.. Grass roots activism (Tea Party) is done.. You now can be removed by the RNC boss if you dont goose step to the party line..
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:13pmScrew Ron Paul supporters. Ron Paul AND his supporters got EXACTLY what they DESERVED today.
“BLOWBACK”…. how do you like US now?
Answer: Exactly the same way as before… you didn’t. So when you get right down to the bottom line. Screw Ron Paul and his Obama enabling supporters. You didn‘t want US and WE don’t need you.
You and your Messiah just got some well deserved “BLOWBACK” for the BS you have been pulling for the last 8 years starting with the election of Obama. You miscreants and malcontents thought you were going to game the system and the system just slapped you down for your nonsense.
This isn’t a repudiation of the Tea Party Movement, or Grass Roots Movements in general… this was a repudiation of Ron Paul and his supporters plain and simple… AND… HE and you DESERVED what HE and YOU got.
Now go toss your vote to Obama like you planned on. You have been zeroed-out anyways for a number of reasons.
Oh and btw… I thought it very funny today that you (Paul Delegates) were relegated to the cheap outer perimeter seats. Smart move by one and all.
Report Post »Nolan Ryan-s Fastball
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:03pm@ Time_To_End_The_Paul_Campaign_In_12:
Report Post »IF that were the case, why not hold a proper referendum according to the current rules, effectively bringing the Paul delegates into the fold? Their numbers were great enough to stop it. Why push through an open-ended rule change (by a laughable “ayes have it”) that effectively strips the grassroots (the states and people) of their delegates/votes? Why consolidate this power with the RNC elites? Wake up, please. You’re being snookered. Your “revenge” on the “Paulbots” will not taste so good in the near future. Romney could have learned something from Paul, who clearly understood our system as it is supposed to work. Romney is the crybaby here, unwilling to work with others. No, the process wasn’t fun or pretty, but per the Constitution it was certainly preferable to what we are now getting. Good luck getting y(our) voice heard from now on. Our job just got a lot harder. Go Tea Party!
cous1933
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:08pmNolan,
I‘m not sure if you’ve attempted to reason with Time_2 in the past or not, but I can tell you from experience, it’s a waste of time. He is so hate-obsessed in regards to Ron Paul, Paul supporters, and libertarians in general, you’ll get nothing but lies, arrogance, and insults (on a level slightly south of Beavis and B***head). Friendly advice – don’t waste your time. Oh and by the way, be careful that he doesn’t snarl at you, he claims his snarl to be very scary.
Report Post »Nolan Ryan-s Fastball
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:26pmThanks for the warning, Cous1933. No, I have not tried to reason with Time_2 in the past, and yes, that was my hope in posting my response. Apparently I can now abandon that idea. It was also my hope, however, to reason with whomever may have been partially persuaded by the cheap thrill his base emotions can momentarily provide. Such immature reactions deserve an immediate response from those with some level of maturity, lest the insanity begins to become contagious, as it most certainly will in a vacuum.
Report Post »blaze7c
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 8:24am@Time To Shut Up,
Report Post »Screw you punk! You will absolutely be getting just what you want with mittens. You will be one of the first crying about the government can’t do this or that, but you and your like just hand the keys to your shackles to the RNC. As for your dislike of RP followers, you scream so much hate on this board, but yet all you do is talk about how bad we are. You are a joke and a disgrace. Have fun with mittens and Obama idiot.
watersRpeople
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:20pmPeople don’t believe anything 100% that comes over the airwaves with good cause, and when it comes down to it they will vote security and entitlements – and in the end they will decide Romney looks like a crooked politician from a movie.
Report Post »Joe Public
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:20pmNever underestimate the power of Republicans to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Report Post »NoNannyState4me
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 12:36amAdversely, never underestimate the ability of Republicans to set themselves on fire (figure of speech) at the last minute as well.
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:19pmpeople all of this infighting is just allowing the democrats the ability to hang on, we must stop this non sense ,i don’t agree with changing the rules in the middle of the game either, but it would not have to happen if paul would just concede and allow this country to get on the road to recovery, everyday this drags on,it is one more day that obama and his cronies can continue to drag us into a hell hole we will never dig out of, we must stand together, then when we get America back on the road to recovery,then we can have the arguments about who,how and when,but right now, we must come together and save our great country.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:28pmWhat if Romney gets elected and doesn’t make drastic enough changes to induce the results we need. What if things get worse and people blame Republicans and we loose control of the House of Representatives and don’t have the majority in the Senate.
Report Post »turbo
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:31pmMitt should have made an agreement with RP along time ago, like Federal Reserve Chairman.
Report Post »Nolan Ryan-s Fastball
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:34pmPaul has admitted defeat. Paul played by the rules. He does not/cannot control his delegates, as they are not bound to him. Their minds are their own.
Report Post »Romney is acting out of fear and foolishness, and it will cost him dearly if he doesn’t reverse course immediately. Romney had finally won me over with the Ryan-for-VP pick. Now I‘m convinced more than ever that he is a lion in sheep’s clothing, a RINO who will undo everything the Tea Party has fought for up to this point. At this point, I feel he has NO principles. He will lose the election because of this….
Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:20pmWhy should Paul have conceded? He was a legitimate candidate.
The rules are there for a reason. Paul used them in the primaries. Mitt broke and then changed them for the convention.
I‘m thinkin’ the Paultroons had the moral high ground here, and have exposed Willard McBain for the dictator he is, and wants so badly to be.
Oh, well.
Report Post »Jimmy Stewart
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:19pmThe Paul Bots are idiots. We can win without their idiotic paranoid Ron Paul or nobody else.
Report Post »RailRoadCar9
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:25pmright people who think for themselves are robot , you people are idiots and lack the balls to stand for freedom , if anything what is happening is the signal to the end of the 2 party system both dems and rep have sold the average person out , i will be writing Paul in regardless of what is comes out of this convention
Report Post »Paul Revere
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:25pmGood Luck
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:29pmYou are idiot, calling your fellow Conservatives, idiots. Romey’s lawyers start this mess.
Report Post »endgamer
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:38pmGary Johnson here I come..
Report Post »XScramblerX
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:40pm@JIMMY STEWART
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:19pm
The Paul Bots are idiots. We can win without their idiotic paranoid Ron Paul or nobody else.
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Thank you for supporting the people who won Congress in 2010 jerk! The Paul bot idiots as you like to call them are 100 times more patriotic than you will ever be! Typical jackass! The Tea Party saves your ass and now you sh it on them! Good for you! Hope you get what you deserve!
Report Post »Deuteronomy22
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:40pmRon Paul is the only person who stands on principal. Romney will say and do anything for his personal success. He is not a statesman.
Report Post »Simonne
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:41pmPaul didn’t get that many delegates & Mitt did real well. Most conservatives are supporting Mitt but the extremist will never be happy until they get one of their own. One problem, they are in the minority.
Report Post »phrogdriver
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:44pmIt amazes me how the people who all think alike somehow think they all think for themselves.
There are things Ron Paul believes that I agree wholeheartedly with. There I things I disagree vehemently with. That’s because I actually think for myself – I don’t accept ANY politician at face value. I don’t trust any of them – including Ron Paul.
Yet, somehow, I’m a “sheep” to the lockstep cultist ronbots.
Go figure.
Report Post »Belwraith
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:58pmExcuse me…but the Tea Party is not the Ron Paul party.
Report Post »greenNflightless
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 8:30pm@belwraith – Thanks for clarifying that fact. I thought it was sorely needed.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:22pm@Jimmy:
I’m glad you think so.
Good luck with that.
Report Post »grimmster
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:19pmJust what we need, idiot paul-bots causing problems at the convention.paul and his followers are nothing more than obama, and his followers…lite.paul needs to go away permanently.I’m ashamed this idiot is from my state….
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:40pmYeah, who needs all these people screaming about the Constitution? The Constitution? Really? That old relic of days gone by might as well be used to cut out snowflakes or something. It’s about time we got a progressive republican on the ticket that can move passed that thing.
Report Post »XScramblerX
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:46pmThank you for supporting the people who won Congress in 2010 jerk! The Paul bot idiots as you like to call them are 100 times more patriotic than you will ever be! Typical jackass! The Tea Party saves your ass and now you sh it on them! Good for you! Hope you get what you deserve! You should be ashamed of yourself!!
Report Post »bharris0
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:46pmyou must be another one of the anti-American, anti-republic, pawns of the progressive establishment.
Where we are headed, your kind is going to need all the help you can get.
When you make a deal with the devil, he ALWAYS COLLECTS !
Report Post »WindyDualism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:55pmHey uh, Cleve dude…how is that math thingy working for you? We hear you, you are a minority in a bank of pot smoke, shut up, sit down. Whaaaaaa. Whaaaaaa.
Report Post »Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:18pmOh those wacky Repiblicans — can’t trust them – Huh Blaze?
That’s one —-
Report Post »mikeeuk
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:18pmGreat let’s just feed the liberal media all the ammo they want. Way to go!! This will just distract more from the real issues facing this country from Obama.
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:25pmIn case you hadn’t noticed:
Romney was a Judas goat all along. He is there to throw the election.
Report Post »WindyDualism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:02pmSenor Plume
Report Post »Where do you get your insider info? Really, share, don’t condescend and obfuscate now, let the squirrel out of the bag and don’t keep it secret. Is Norm the secret squirrel? How is the business dude worse than the socialist again? Please, I will shut my cake hole, is Romney in on the NWO too? He was leaving chem trails last weekend right? Share man-enlighten por favor. Trying to actually see how a dude with actual experience in bidness and trabajos is worse than a faculty lounge reject. Please, elucidate.
Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:24pmBlah blah blah.
Good luck in November.
Report Post »Watchingtheweasels
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 9:17amThis is a very real issue. If these rules aren’t overturned, good luck in trying to advance a limited government message within the ranks of the GOP in the future. The fact is that people like Boehner, McCain, and Romney are quite satisfied with a quite large, intrusive, expensive government. Heck, Romeny has spent have his career as a state level politician advocating just that. They just don’t want that government to demand too high a rate of capital gains or corporate taxes so that they can continue to pull the levers they use to enrich themselves. I doubt that any of them care more about the ideas of the founders than Obama. Shenanigans like this are evidence of it.
I wonder if Sarah Palin had inside information that such rules were coming and that’s why she made her comments about the need for a 3rd party in 2016.
Report Post »Mike Benton
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:17pmA family argument that the Media will obsess over for a few days. Util they get some more grist for their mill.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:01pmExactly .. a few little bots throw a hissy fit .. and the MSM will fixate on it .. as for the rule .. they may be sorry … when the TEA Party is the MAJORITY!
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 9:31pm@CATB:
You do realize what your good ol’ buddy Willard McBain and his crew have done, don’t you?
Think about this:
Willard is an avowed progressive. A big government hack from way back. To the left of Ted Kennedy, he trumpeted from the mountain-tops.
Why would an enthusiastic progressive, who now has essentially total power to control the delegate process, allow TEA Party folks a seat at the table at all?
Boy, you guys are suckers! On November 7th, I will cry for the fate of my country, under the boot of the re-elected Obama. And I will double over laughing at mindless Republicans like you, who GLEEFULLY threw the election.
It’s a Greek tragedy. Ironically, we’ll look like Greece, too!
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 12:16amYou are overeacting Norm……they may have temporarily won this round with the outrageous rule changes but in the long run when enough conservatives are elected to the party they can simply restore what was changed.
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:17pmIt doesn’t matter, Obama will get another term, and then maybe even a few more.
Report Post »bigjerk
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:36pmJust pick out your favorite lootin’ spots just in case.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:17pmPaulbots…they’ll cost Republicans the election, will gain no ground for their candidate, and ruin the early career of Rand Paul. Pendejos.
Report Post »Clive
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:22pmmitt “john kerry” romney being our candidate, has cost us the election.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:23pmRomney will cost himself the election. Blaming voters for not voting for your candidate is like a cook being mad at people for saying his food tastes horrible. Even Rush Limbaugh thought this was a stupid move is he just a Paul Bot or maybe just a freaking conservative.
Report Post »SWORD_OF_THE_LORD
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:24pmAgree.
Report Post »escape_from_socialism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:25pmSo you agree, will of the people doesn’t matter anymore. It is only what “establishment” want. Good luck with that. This all convention is BS. Primaries doesn’t matter, delegates doesn’t matter.
Report Post »jadams1214
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:27pmwhat you fail to understand is i dont see republican as any different than democrat. i dont vote for the letter in front of the name i vote for the principles which the candidate stands for. romney or obama are more of the same so if republicans lose the election its their own fault not people voting for other candidates. it means that a majority of americans aren’t falling for the republican crap anymore.
Report Post »bravjim
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:28pmAt this point, I would say the establishment is probably the problem, trying to avoid the grass roots. Do you really think they can carry the day, and the vote, by implementing rules against the grass roots movement. I might have to look elsewhere if this is the way the party is going to conduct it’s business. Libertarian, Constitutionalists are now getting a much closer look from me.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:28pmGood, the Republicans don’t deserve it. You should vote for a libertarian, they don’t think they have the right to KILL YOU without a trial.
Report Post »TheSpiritMan
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:32pmNeocons… they’ll cost Republicans the election by shutting out the most qualified and electable candidate, Ron Paul, and instead nominating the unelectable, progressive GOON Mitt Romney. If Romney wins the nomination, the Republicans WILL LOSE the election. The Republican leadership have acted like CHILDREN and COWARDS, changing the rules and flat out cheating so they could win. They have DISGRACED THEMSELVES!!
Report Post »XScramblerX
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 6:07pmGlenn helped secure an Obama win. Most of the people at his RESTORING HONOR rally were Ron Paul supporting Tea Partiers. Then he says he’s a Libertarian but craps on Paul! You get what you deserve! HOPE the CHANGE is good for you! If you think Glenn cried allot before, wait till November!
Report Post »Good God we’re in for another four. What makes me even madder is the fact that the Libertarians and Conservatives win big in 2010, then everybody craps on them! I thought Glenn was authentic, but it seems that even he has an agenda. This Paulbot hopes you get Obozo for another round! That might wake you up even more! Thanks again.
resme
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:37pmfine by me.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 7:42pmwell anything is better the electing adolf hitler 2.0
Report Post »WindyDualism
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 10:48pmWhoa now. I actually get the whole constitutional/libertarian thing-voted for Paul in my state as he was 1 of 2 that made the effort to get on the ballot on time, at the time. Ce la vie say the old folks. How do the current Paul supporters go around and get over the whole math thing? How does that work? All bs aside, what equation is at work to have Paul as the candidate now? How? All you Paul supporters with a bad taste in your mouth that ain’t bad mexican weed-look to your ilk like “Indyvidualism” for reasons why people mock you and the great Doc-on display every day and you look the other way. How does piss off and vote for the socialist if it suits you sound? Stand with 0 if it floats your boat. One election at a time. Lots have been asleep for a long, long time, and we are fricken broke morally and monetarily and math once again gets thrown out the window. Act and stand locally if you want the bigger problems addressed eventually on a national level. Whhaaaa, Doc Paul could fix this and that and bs, math gets in the way once again. WTF?
Report Post »Norm D. Plume
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 11:28pm@Windy:
If you’d bother pulling your head out, eschewing for a moment the entirely intestinal basis for your perceptions, you’d realize that us Paultroons are no longer holding out hope that he will become the Republican nominee.
We’re displeased, of course, but that could be worked around.
What cannot be forgiven, however, is the power grab by Dictator McBain at this convention. He has, at one fell swoop, placed himself at exactly the same moral plane as Dictator Obama.
Are you REALLY naive enough to vote for this festering turd? I mean, I guess he looks a lot like what you’re used to, given where your head must of necessity be, judging by your remarks, but REALLY?!
Report Post »PRESIDENT_OBAMNEY
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 1:29amAre you there now at the RNC convention? Did you even go to your state convention? If so, which? Were you even a delegate? Either you clearly do not know anything about the process or you are participating in the past outright voter fraud by being complaisant in what just occurred! Caucus, Primary and Convention shenanigans occurred on vast scale in 2012 on the Republican side; and what just happened via the Romney establishment Rules Committee was another blatant attempt to seal the deal towards ending Grass-roots candidates from ever winning the Republican Presidential ticket.
Report Post »Watchingtheweasels
Posted on August 29, 2012 at 9:21amThis has nothing to do with Ron Paul. This has to do with what level of influence the Tea Party will have within the ranks of the Republican party going forward.
Report Post »SWORD_OF_THE_LORD
Posted on August 28, 2012 at 5:16pmI’m so sorry “Jone”… Hope you don’t cry…
Coward.
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