Border Czar: America Needs a ‘21st Century Border’ for a ‘New Era’

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Commissioner Alan Bersin says the United States needs to undertake a “paradigm shift” in how citizens view the U.S.-Mexico border.Border Czar: America Needs a 21st Century Border for a New Era

In a recent speech at the Migration Policy Institute in Washington, D.C., Bersin claimed that this perception shift needs to include “a road to citizenship” for immigrants currently living in the U.S. illegally. Additionally, Bersin said that Americans said the “best way” to secure the southern border is to allow Mexicans to work in the United States in the future in what he called “a legitimate labor market” between the U.S. and Mexico.

According to CNSNews.com, a CBP spokesperson has since clarified Bersin’s remarks, saying the U.S. needs “a temporary worker program” that is “conducive to our labor needs.”

Bersin has been on the job since March, appointed by President Barack Obama after having formerly served as secretary of education for the state of California and as chairman of the San Diego Regional Airport Authority.

During his remarks to the Migration Policy Institute, the border “czar” recalled negotiations between President Obama and Mexican President Felipe Calderon in May in which the two leaders “articulated the vision for this new era — the creation of a 21st Century border, one that enhances our security and mutual economic competitiveness in an increasingly globalized world.”

“Underlying this new vision is a paradigm shift—a change in how people view the border,” Bersin said.

“Historically, governments have approached border management as, essentially, ‘holding the line.’ But the border isn’t an isolated place disconnected from the interiors of the United States and Mexico. What we do at the border has effects that are felt far away from the jurisdictional line—especially in an era of international trade and global supply chains. Although policing the line will remain a key element of any border management approach, we must shift our thinking and take a more holistic view of border management, one that is based on securing the flows of trade and travel.”

Bersin dismissed ideas of “mass amnesty” and “mass deportations,“ insisting the country needs to implement a ”long road to citizenship” for illegal aliens.

Comments (182)

  • wingedwolf
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 7:13pm

    I move for an electric moat. Anybody second?

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    • Diamondback
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 7:20pm

      I move for armed, deputized citizens on the border with authority to shoot to kill anyone not heeding an order to HALT.

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    • charliego
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 7:28pm

      I forgot to add ‘toxic sludge’–I bet Hungary would take their dehydrated sludge, mail it to us and then we could rehydrate it. Oh, silly me.

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  • America First
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 7:11pm

    I say our pre.sident is a traitor for not enforcing our bor.der. Impeachment should be considered now.

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    • charliego
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 7:22pm

      I have had that thought on a number of occasions–sad to say. Thanks.

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  • charliego
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 7:08pm

    I don’t care—fence, castle moat, electrical shock, alligators and/or piranahs—-just do it. I like to think I am a caring person, but we no longer can even care for our own. We are being beggared to our death.

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  • oljw00
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 7:00pm

    If the 21st Century border solution includes a good old (all centuries to present) fashioned wall then I agree completely.

    Note the timing and remember this was obviously scripted and planned.

    And who said that a border solution wouldn’t have a guest worker program? I think most people would agree. So please spare me the attempt to paint anyone opposed to this mamsy pamsy (Liberal) approach to securing our Southern Border as isolationists and unwilling to discuss and put put in place a fair system that benefits EVERYONE – including those that come here for work.

    We just want to close the whole thing down first….and THEN worry about the details.

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  • Sunnyr
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:50pm

    You can take your HOLISTIC view and shove it! You are going to be looking for work in a little over 2 years, goofball! And so is your Marxist Moonbat-in-Chief.

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  • doublebogi
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:47pm

    Just finish the fence.

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  • Vanessalynn26
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:42pm

    im so sick of haring this kind of let gave a free pass to our country this has been a problemfor years they need to come here the right way and if r here illgaly they need to be ship back nort gaven a freepass

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    • Contrarianthinker
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 7:36pm

      Rememebr both th estaablishment DP and GOP are willing to openly break exisitng law.

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  • lizaz
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:39pm

    Secure, and I mean SECURE, the border first! Nothing happens til then….you will see when WE THE PEOPLE come out on Nov 2! Don’t get too comfortable in your office!

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  • tankchaser
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:36pm

    Are there currently immigration laws and regulations that cover the United States of America? yes I believe there are. Enforce the laws that we have now, then we can talk about all this other stuff. A guest worker program? yes that’s a nice thought, but I think just maybe the people that apply after it is actually enacted have first priority over the people that came across in the middle of the night, build the fence, no back door Amnesty, and no special exemptions for law breakers. oh and by the way, entering the USA without permission to do so is breaking laws.

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  • generalstark
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:35pm

    Shame on you Mr. Bersin. A weak asssssss attempt to appease both sides of the issue. Grow a set and get control of our southern border before the drug cartels do. If they haven’t already.

    Live Free or Die

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  • Oh, God!
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:33pm

    Wouldn’t a “long road to citizenship” mean “mass amnesty? My question: How long is the road? And what about all those people that are trying to get into America LEGALLY? Also, is this the new ‘holistic’ term to amnesty? Seems to be…

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  • Silat
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:22pm

    Why doesn’t the guy enforce the immigration laws! Let Mexicans do it the right way.

    Liberals do not like standing in line or abiding the law. Liberals like lawlessness and revolution!
    Well unlike other socialist nations, the US populace is too well armed to let the left goosestep on us.

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:53pm

      Amen, when they try to take the guns, then there will be real trouble starting.

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  • untameable-kate
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:22pm

    I am getting so sick of this s***!Sick of having to figure out what signs say because they are printed in spanish, sick of talking about how we need to be tolerant of thier heritage and thier ways and d**m sick of being lectured on how they don’t take American jobs away from working Americans. Here in Az we are overrun, our social services are drained our roads are more dangerous and there are places in our state we aren’t supposed to go for fear of criminal activities. To he** with all these jerks who haven’t ever been down here telling us this crap.

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 7:00pm

      Agree, I am an AZ native – and while I am learning spanish, it is for one reason only, the immigrants I deal with have come here legally, often waiting for years to come in the country, and THEY all have said the first goal is to speak ENGLISH with fluency as quickly as possible.

      Illegals can go back home.

      The legal immigrants where I volunteer have a party for all who pass their tests and become fully naturalized citizens each year. It is great, they call it their second birthday.

      I do understand this though – In America respect OUR culture, be tolerant of AMERICAN ways and AMERICAN heritage for we are AMERICANS first and always in my book.

      IF YOU NO LIKE – GO HOME, or to American actors who dont like our country LEAVE.

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  • anigmanm
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:21pm

    for years people have been trying to solve the border issue. Surprisingly the battle cry is always the same, they are doing jobs Americans will not do.. Yes sadly there are some jobs that American’s refuse to do, however, for many years illegals have been welcoming themselves to our country, and taking those jobs. Now that as a country we no longer manufacture anything, the new construction industry is in the toilet, why do we need more people to do jobs that do not exist?

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  • Diamondback
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:21pm

    The governors of AZ and TX should call for citizen volunteers from all across the USA to come with their arms and then deputize them for service on the border. I’d bet thousands would show up if asked. I know I would. No need to even pay me. Just provide me with food, shelter and ammunition while I serve. We can seal the border! The Minutemen proved it just a few years back on a 20 something mile stretch. All we need is more manpower and the will of the people behind them.

    It may be the Fed’s responsibility to set “immigration policy” but the border state’s have the right and DUTY to protect their citizens and, since the fed’s are failing their duty, SEAL THE BORDER of their state to protect their citizenry.

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    • claymoremacm
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:38pm

      hmmm interesting vaca idea

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    • Rev. WC
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:41pm

      But then you would stop the drug flow..the government doesn’t want that.

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    • Rogue
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:48pm

      Sign me up. I get two weeks vacation a year, and would gladly give it up to defend my country

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:55pm

      If we cannot be at the borde physically, could we supply the ammo for those who are? Especially against those bloody drug cartels?

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    • Diamondback
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 7:10pm

      By the way, I do know that California is also a border state but realize they’re to lefttarded to understand this issue. My hope is all the illegal traffic will move over to CA‘s stretch of the border and provide the final straw that breaks CA’s fiscal back. Californica is a cancer to the rest of the U.S. in its present condition!

      Just sayin’

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    • AngryTexanFromAmarillo
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 7:20pm

      I’m in! now the problem is should I use the 12 gauge shotgun with my mossy oak camo or should I go with 30.06 with my real tree camo? decisions decisions….

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    • Diamondback
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 7:43pm

      @ANGRYTEXANFROMAMARILLO: Bring’em both brother!!! And bring your friends.

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    • flyguync
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 9:06pm

      I guess I’ll have to bring my 7mm Magnum, that 12 guage slug gun kicks like a mule!!

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  • claymoremacm
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:21pm

    maybe a fence would be shovel ready?

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    • DMD
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 10:36pm

      I don’t see TX and AZ holding up the project due to zoning or permits. CA would and NM I am unsure about.

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:17pm

    why do we need new ideas for a border? havent land mines and concertina razor wire worked well in the past? close the damn border and send them all back already. If Americans dont stand up and take drastic measures to ensure our future, it will become a different country in our lifetime. NEW SCIENTIFIC DATA shows that we are not reproducing enough to ensure our culture and as we are only having 1.6 descendants instead of a required 2.11 descendants to ensure our culture and heritage, that there will be more muslims in America by 2035 than Americans……..yes i said Americans…….because the end goal of Muslims is not to become Americans but to make America Muslim………muslims are multiplying by 8.1 descendants per generation you do the math

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  • Ronko
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:17pm

    We need a wall not a path to citizenship we deal with that after the wall goes up. Not just any wall a state of the art wall that is deep so you can’t dig under it and explosive proof. If the border czar wants more innocent Americans to be killed by the Cartels then thats his problem and it will bite him in the butt eventually.

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  • neverending
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:17pm

    I didn’t think there was any more airheads left for barry to add to his circle of corruption – but oh no – he found another.

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  • Rogue
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:17pm

    A legitimate labor market is the solution to illegal immigration? Making it easier for illegals to register once here and find work will only multiply the problems at the border – the difficulties in finding work and the threat of deportation are the only issues keeping many people from trying to get here illegally!

    I thought this guy was the head of Customs and Border Protection. Look dumba$$, your job is to secure the border by any means neccessary, not determine the best path towards immigration. Once you seal the border and stop the flow of illegals, I’ll listen to anything you have to say on immigration reform.

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 8:41am

      Very True!! I would like to add, whatever happened to to the word “enforcement” as in the last letter if ICE. The problem with these “Czars” is 1- we don’t know who these nutjobs are, 2-they are not accountable to anyone, 3- we don’t care what thy say

      Zorro

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  • spendthrift
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:14pm

    Build the fence and keep America secure……

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  • PALEHORSE
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:14pm

    This guy is nuts. This is just another way of saying open borders. We need to know who are here now and who are coming into this nation at any time. Most of these people have no loyalty to the U.S. and just want to suck whatever they can out of this country.

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    • rmsuperglide
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 9:38pm

      TRUE,only a regular working person understands this.The elite politicians will never understand!

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    • mygirl1
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 9:57pm

      Political correctness at its finest…We HAVE to get rid of these radicals. We now have unelected officials directing programs that answer only to Obama. It seems like he wants to create an entire new group of democrats, who’ll vote for those entitlements. These idiots remind me of the story of the couple who killed the goose who laid the golden egg…and in this case the goose is the law-abiding american taxpaying honest-to-god citizens…
      Note that he made no mention of the drug cartels, human trafficers and threat against american law enforcement officers. Nope, don’t want to address that little conundrum, that would recquire that someone grows some testicles, items sorely lacking in this sissy administration

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  • NoName22
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:13pm

    All I read was “status quo, status quo, status quo……Felipe Calderon can’t run his country.”

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  • ME
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:11pm

    Just build the fence!

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    • what4
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 8:03pm

      add manned 50 cal’s every 500 yds with real bullets and use them!

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    • angrymob
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 9:36pm

      @ ME

      Bersin dismissed ideas of “mass amnesty” and “mass deportations,“ insisting the country needs to implement a ”long road to citizenship” for illegal aliens.
      *********************************************
      Exactly! Should we ever reward illegal activity? NO!

      When I was younger I went around my neighborhood and had people sign a petition for Prop 187 which called for securing our border here in CA…anyways the American people voted for prop 187 and it passed BUT…the courts struck it down!

      That was before the Republican take over of Congress in the 90′s…hope there will be another victory for Conservatives real soon! Vote!

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 4:08am

      First of all…. can we lose the whole CZAR thing? What the hell is this? Russia?

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 4:21am

      How about Closed Circuit Television and then you can just post men every mile or 2, or 5???

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 6:00am

      He is a typical Washingtonian. He is right and the whole world is wrong.

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  • wleeblake
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:10pm

    What about all the Americans out of a job right now, what do ya say we put them to work before you wave in another wave of illegals!

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    • Rev. WC
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:37pm

      I grew up in California and all of the construction jobs were lost to Illegals. 12 million new jobs if they all go home? I say we put old Alan Bersin on a border town and let him send his kids to public schools. Just my guess that he would change his mind. Elitists don’t get it.

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    • Vanessalynn26
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:40pm

      yeah u r right what about the ones that hasnt been able to fine a job bc them they need to start thinken about us

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:41pm

      Another day, another deal, another Czar with no accountability to anyone for whatever they do and control.

      Why should this be a suprise to anyone.

      Why not try a novel (to Washington) idea – close the entire blasted border with fences, guards, and for the countries that wont stop their own people fleeing into ours – cut off trade into and out of our nation for a time.

      Tell them we will reopen the trade part when they get their own act togeather.

      For the drug cartels there is a simple solution in two parts…

      1. Bounties on their heads so large that someone will take them out.
      2. Send in the Delta Force for precision strikes to take out or bring them back.

      Enough cat footing around – get the job done.

      http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (mix art)

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    • klstj
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:43pm

      I’m with you. Also, as far as the working relationship and economy, the illegals save or send their money back home. They don’t spend in our economy, unlike the citizens that spend here, creating jobs. So we are supposed to have the only open boarder in the world and their problems with crime to boot? Not!

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    • solaveritas
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 7:24pm

      WE WANT OUR HONOR BACK. Our government promised no more illegal immigration after the last amnesty. When they fulfill that promise, THEN we can talk about the future.

      Secure the border, send the Army to kill the cartel occupying our territory.

      The Czar is planting an EVIL SEED of a paradigm shift re: “border attitude”. Sure, shifting from a Republic to Socialism is a paradigm shift too. We don’t want that one either!!!

      Consider this: Secure border. Increased immigration quota (thru the right door) from Mexico (if the workers are needed). Crooks and government dependent illegal immigrants deported. Productive illegals are given permanent residence if they learn the language, BUT (like felon/citizens) do NOT have the right to vote, ever. That takes it away from politics. We are HUMANE in letting the family stay, but there is a price. They live in paradise, but since they cheated, they can’t vote. If they want to vote, they can go home, immigrate legally, become a citizen, and vote. No problem.

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    • jzs
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 9:23pm

      The solution is simple. The only reason Mexicans cross the border is to find work. If American businesses stop hiring them illegal immigration from Mexico will stop. Why do the hire them? Because they’ll work for less than white people. It’s not discrimination – any company would hire a white guy to pick grapes for $5 an hour as quickly as a Mexican. But white guys won’t work for $5 an hour. Don’t pretend this is anything but pure capitalism, so let’s stop demonizing the Mexicans.

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    • uneedmorekoolaid
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 9:27pm

      cant wait until 2012 when all of this is tossed in the incinirator along with obama’s dreams of a reelection. since they were never elected by us nor are they accountable to us then we don’t have to do anything they say. they are unconstitutionally in a position of “authority” so we can constitutionally ignore them. thank you have a nice day czar!

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    • LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 10:01pm

      What we need is a little 7th century BC boarder protection. BUILD A WALL great wall of China style! Simple, easy, quick, EFFECTIVE.

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    • MSG
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 10:35pm

      Quote from the Declaration of Independance: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. BUT when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their RIGHT, it is their DUTY, to THROW OFF such Government, and to provide NEW Guards for their future security.”

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    • poozak
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 10:42pm

      Shock collars on the Illegals triggered by the Unemployed, stirred-up by Gibbs covering for the Regime, televised by CNN. Free to the Masses. Popcorn?

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:39pm

      I wan’t to be the “fire the Czars Czar”. And yes I will resign after I fire the rest of them.

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 12:21am

      Love the part about exploiting workers. As if 2 people entering into an agrement without government help is exploitation. What he should have said is…
      “Our minimum wage laws, taxes, and regulations make it impossible to compete in a global market therefore the industrialist, producers, capitalists, and self made men of the world must resort to crime in order to feed those who deem them criminals due to the ability to create.”
      Instead of admitting that social planing is a failed idea 1000 times over, as usual government will come out and bastardize those who apposed it. claim failure was due to lack of sacrifice. them propose even more social planning to fix it.

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    • hopin society
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 1:25am

      so this new hi-tech virtual border will keep LEGAL citizens from doing whatever THEY want to do BUT, it will ENCOURAGE ILLEGAL aliens to KEEP DOING WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING?

      How is there any difference than before?

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 4:16am

      I suppose this moron thinks that illegal aliens–you know, criminals that are here by way of tresspassing, are just going to walk up to city hall and pay a fine and then get on a long waiting list for citizenship?

      Head-in-Sand epidemic spreads throughout Washington.

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    • mexicanhasmyjob
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 7:38am

      i want my job back

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    • JKN
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 8:35am

      This “Border Czar” believes in NO borders! This despicable man feels that we should keep our borders wide open permanently… Either leading to a North American Union (along with Canada) or just simply wide open borders for America; and of course, of all this leading to a “Global Society.” A fantastic boon for our few ultra-wealthy Progressive elites at the top; a disaster for the rest of us working stiffs… We just have to take a look at the European Union to see how well this experiment would go…

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    • drbage
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 10:10am

      Instead of this dweeb and his parallel universe of paradigm shift, let’s hire Angela Merkel and put her in charge of the border. In this whole debate, just like in the Ground Zero mosque debate, where are the voices of the moderates, those who have come in through the front door and obeyed that inconvenient truth-the law! How about adopting a new foreign policy as to aid to Mexico? My proposal would be that for every dollar sent to Mexico by those working in this country we reduce our aid of Mexico by that amount. It is estimated to be $1.5 billion. Part 2, we further reduce the aid by the cost of policing, jailing and deporting illegals. Part 3, as part of Rep. Bachmann’s Constitutional classes for new members of the House, we should also include a lesson on vocabulary which would start with the difference between legal and illegal!

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    • Promotefreedom
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 11:01am

      Obama will keep pushing amnesty in any way he can think of. The agenda ultimately includes Canada Mexico and America as one nation.

      He is also under the false impression (just like with so many other things) that Latinos will automatically rush to join the dems and vote Obama in 2012. So the more “favors” he appears to give them, the better.

      And Obama’s labor unions (SEIU etc) need new meat to join their ranks.

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 11:19am

      Absolutely, you have double digit unemployment and you want to bring in illegals to take jobs from Americans? Unions why exactly do you support Democrats? This is proof positive that this is the most inept administration in history. Stupid beyond believe. You’d have to really try hard to be this dense.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ3OxZhXKQ0
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UtmTALMkU4

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    • Republic Under God
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 1:06pm

      @JZS
      I will agree that one of the strongest reasons that illegal immigrants cross the border is to find work.
      “Why do the hire them? Because they’ll work for less than white people. It’s not discrimination – any company would hire a white guy to pick grapes for $5 an hour as quickly as a Mexican. But white guys won’t work for $5 an hour.”
      First and foremost, I recommend removing the word “White” and replacing it with American. Secondly, you may want to review the minimum wage laws. The only way around paying an American that low is tax evasion…? Anyhow, I read that the offers are more along the lines of $10/hr. But the problem becomes that these jobs are seasonal. And in this progressively progressive welfare state, these Americans are always faced with jeopardizing their unemployment income that has the potential to last 99 weeks for a seasonal stint. It wouldn’t make sense. (Unless they stopped receiving unemployment).
      Secondly, it goes beyond just the willingness to work for cheap. It also has to do with control. What immigrant is going to complain to OSHA about unfair working conditions/hours?
      Immigrant labor is a euphemism for slave labor.
      There are more reasons illegals make their way into the US. Some is for drug/people trafficking and other explicitly illegal activities (including kidnapping and murder). Others are running away from more than poverty. You MAY have noticed the turmoil going on in that country.
      Also, Mexicans are not being demonized, they aren’t even the issue. The issue is ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. You seem to have a slight problem with generalizing. Most on these boards just do not want to see these law-breakers be rewarded or… absolved of the crime they are committing which contributes to the economic problems of a nation that can barely support itself.
      “Don’t pretend this is anything but pure capitalism…” Sorry, but slave labor doesn’t quite fit into the capitalist equation (nor does it in our Republic). Slavery was part of a failed economic policy employed so long ago in this country in the South when Blacks and Native Americans were the heart of slave labor. Capitalism thrives when the middleclass thrives. You cannot have a middleclass without a working class which is undermined when you have slave labor.
      Your pinning the blame on employers who hire illegals for the illegal immigration is flawed. While it does contribute to the illegal immigration, if any of these illegals had any respect for our laws, no amount of illegal-alien hiring could take place as they would not be in our country out of respect for our laws. We may both agree, however that any and all employers who hire illegals (AND I AM TALKING THE BLATANT ONES… the ones that obviously made no attempt to determine if the person they were hiring is legally hirable) should be punished severely.
      Side question, JZS… how do you feel about Capitalism?

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    • showourstrength
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 1:26pm

      @Republic under God. Your explanation given for the detrimental effects of illegal immigration were precisely those given by Che Guevara who also vehemently opposed illegal immigration. Maybe our fledgling marxists… oh. sorry. Progressives on this sight need to read of their own before attempting to diminish the only proven system.

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    • democratgirl
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 2:47pm

      Another armchair quarterback! I am so tired of listening to all these politicians and leaders who don‘t live there and don’t really understand the extent of the problem on the borders. Their vision is so narrow, they will agree with whatever their boss says. It’s time for WE, THE PEOPLE to make these politicians understand that we really don’t care what they say or feel, we will vote them out on November 2nd and we will do everything we can to get them to enforce current laws, which they do not do. I am so hoping that the courts give states the right to not accept the Healthcare and their little house of cards will come tumbling down. NOVEMBER 2ND: VOTE CONSERVATIVE! VOTE FOR CONSTITUTIONAL AMERICA!!!

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    • Major Infidel
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 3:37pm

      There’s some prime waterfront in Mexico, I say we take over that awful little toilet of a country and ship all the Mexicans to the middle east. Then nuke the middle east, take the oil and start developing the Mexican coast. All problems solved and we get some prime Pacific realestate.

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    • FIRED UP FREE MAN !
      Posted on October 20, 2010 at 9:40pm

      Mr. SOROS is an international criminal. Any government official taking money from this monster or those he supports should be brought up on treason charges. Anybody who takes money from this monster has sold his soul and our government to HELL ! GOD BLESS AMERICA AND THE LIGHT OF DAY! For only TRUTH and the light of day is what this country DESERVES. Democrats seemed to have been infected by this DEADLY parasite and his minions. This country will NOT rest until SOROS is in prison orange and handcuffs standing in front of a military tribunal in Guantomino Bay, Cuba

      If you have any complaints about Mr. SOROS here are the names and addresses, maybe you can send them a line.

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