Border ‘Incursion’: Why Did Mexican Federal Police ‘Momentarily’ Cross Into U.S. Amid Gunfire?
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A national watchdog group says the Mexican Government incursion that happened just a few miles outside of El Paso could be a major security threat to the nation.
EL PASO, Texas — Border Patrol officials are investigating an incursion by Mexican federal police into the United State on Thursday morning.
U.S. Border Patrol spokesman Doug Mosier said armed officers with Mexico’s Secretaria de Seguridad Publica federal police were in the incursion, which took place in El Paso, near the Border Patrol’s Ysleta station.
The Mexican government, Border Patrol and Texas Parks and Wildlife Department are investigating the incident. U.S. authorities responded to the incident.
An ABC-7 viewer contacted the station early Thursday, saying her son, husband and friends were hunting on the Rio Grande levy on the
U.S. side when men on the Mexico side fired shots, narrowly missing them. She said more men on the Mexico side drove up with automatic weapons and into to U.S. side. She said the armed men fired weapons and stole hunters’ chairs and drove back into Mexico.
“This is a crisis situation on the border and unless a citizen seems to run into it as the hunters did, the government is not really going to tell you about it,” Tom Fitton said.
Fitton is the President of Judicial Watch, a national watchdog group in Washington DC. His organization won a fight with the government to gain access to information on border incursions and even obtained video of a border incursion that happened in El Paso in 2008. Fitton says, the data proves border incursions are happening at an alarming rate.
“We were shocked to find that the incidents involved shots fired on both sides of the border, unmarked helicopters invading U.S. airspace, drug smuggling and confrontations between U.S. Border Patrol Agents and armed members of the Mexican Military,” he said.
Fitton told us the data also shows some of the incursions weren’t accidents.
“The most recent incident, as reported by your station there, shows that it was not only purposeful, but criminal in the sense that they came over and seemingly robbed folks,” he said.
It’s a problem Fitton says is rising and could be dangerous to border security if ignored by Washington.
“What it means, and it shows, is the border is obviously un-secure and unsafe. With the recent restrictions regarding hunting on the border you have to wonder, who controls our territory? The Mexican Government or the U.S. Government?.”
Mexican federal police momentarily crossed the Rio Grande into the United States on Thursday morning in an incursion under investigation by both countries, a U.S. Border Patrol spokesman said.
The incursion occurred east of the Zaragoza Bridge while three hunters were on the U.S. side on the first day of dove season.
Agents arriving at the scene saw Mexican federal police crossing the river back into Mexico after they had been on the U.S. side, Mosier said.
Border Patrol officials said they did not receive any allegations that shots were fired across the border and had no information anything was stolen on the U.S. side. It is unknown why Mexican police crossed the border. The incident is under investigation.
A Mexican federal police spokesman could not be reached.
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Comments (238)
freedomofspeech
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:15amwhy cross the border above ground, I hear there are plenty of tunnels with air vents from Mexico to USA they could use.
Report Post »colonial10
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 3:43amLet’s see here. Mexican side will lie and the U.S. Government will lie and then they will lie to us. Sounds like text book corruption to me. You can’t lie to the Americans who live on the border. You can silence them with our own media but you can’t lie to them.
Report Post »fastfacts
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 4:11amThey passed above ground because there are no border fences. I think Rick Perry is the only GOP candidate, minus Huntsman that is against the fences. Bachmann, Romney, Santorum have all spoken against the fence.
Actually it was Rick Perry that created two magnets to entice illegals. Instate Tuition for Illegals, health care through easier access, and a proposed bi-national health care system with Mexico, which luckily did not pass the beginning stages. Though he and all GOP candidates are 100x better than Obama. I want to find out more on all the candidates. That is why I turn to http://www.thedailycandidate.com. Equal coverage for each candidate is their goal. I am a contributor, any one can. Support your candidate.
Report Post »Countrygirl1362
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 6:53amWhy us tunnels when they can just drive across the bridges unchallenged? Armed Mexican soldiers have come right across the bridges (2 or 3 times) and the boarder agents just stand there like they don’t know what to do. And was there not a plane of armed Mexican soldiers that accidently (yea right) landed at a US air strip? Makes you think they are testing the US security to see what they can get away with. Sadly they are getting away with it.
Report Post »debrarae
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:24amThey do it because they know that President Barack Husein Obama only cares about the illegal alien votes he ‘thinks’ he can buy. The Mexicans know that Obama will blame the victims! And call THEM racists!
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:44amRick Perry’s pro-immigration Texas base
Report Post »As Mitt Romney starts to turning to an immigration contrast with Rick Perry, the Texas governor’s own supporters are highlighting his stands on that topic that may not wear well with a majority of early-state Republican activists….
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62564.html
Jezcruzen
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:13amMy question is, why didn’t the hunters shoot the invaders? If they were close enough to see the mexicans stealing the hunter’s chairs, they were certainly close enough to kill several of them. The hunters would have been justified – the mexicans shot first.
Report Post »one years food ration like glenn says
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:18am@FREEDOMOFSPEECH.. Becaause it’s easier then crawling in a tunnel with no one there to stop you. And even one better the libs invite you to come..
Report Post »chazman
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:32am… What the hell is going on down there??!!!! Damnit!!!!
Report Post »Edct
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:10amThey are definitely testing to see what they can get away with and they are so crooked that they will help the drug smugglers get drugs into the US. It is sad that our own gov with nobama refuses to protect us from this corruption and abuse from a foreign country. The liberals and dims that support this imposter muslim in our White House will go down in history as having helped destroy this country.
Report Post »glashole
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:14amIf our federal govt were doing their job, then they would have engaged the Mexican govt to get this BS stopped. Since it has not stopped,then we need to blow up the tunnels and treat the border as the war zone that it is and let the states handle it. The Obama administration is worthless, as for Perry, what the ____ is he doing running for pres if he cannot handle his state?
Report Post »Ballot_Box_Revolution
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:34amI am not a fan of Perry, but you answered your own question within your post…..The federal Government wont get out of the way, and let the states handle it….
Report Post »Roberto G. Vasquez
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:55amI live down here on the border and this is nothing new. It has been happening quite often, but for some reason hardly ever makes the national news. We have even had American schools here hit by Mexican gunfire. Everyone here knows Janet N and her comments about “better than ever” border security is a joke.
Report Post »drbage
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:24amOnce is an accident, twice is a pattern, thrice is a habit. This is the third or fourth time that the Mexican military has crossed into the US either by land or air and the O regime led by Clownitano has said absolutely nothing, hmmmmmmmm!
Report Post »Boojer56
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:30amThis is the only one we know about. Could they be testing our border and lack of border patrol. We saw the Islamic spring, are we gonna se a Mexican Fall. Will Obama call on NATO to shoot the texas citizens who oppose the Mexicans. I think I’ll go buy an AR15 and 5000 rounds of ammo.
Report Post »bioengineer
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:25pm@freedomofspeech, Try reading the article before commenting… just a thought.
Report Post »Da Kingfish
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:36pmPersonally these US hunters have their heads up their butts or they are libs. You would think that living in that area they would realize to expect stuff like that, and if they don’t counter with their own firepower, they don’t need to be in the area. people better open their eyes and if they aren’t going to protect themselves, they we really don’t need to hear any crying about it. The Gubment isn’t going to save you, so you need to take appropriate measures to protect your self, not worry about killing some scrawny doves that don’t taste that good anyway. All we hear is how tough Texans are and how they take care of their own, unless they where waiting for a shipment themselves. Maybe the ATF will give them some of the guns they sold to the cartel’s to protect themselves, and show them how to use them, but we won’t hold our breath.
Report Post »Wayner
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:25pmOur Border Patrol had better not try to stop them or they’ll risk spending the rest of their life in prison.
Report Post »LOOKINGFROMTHERIGHT
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:45pmThis is all ONE BIG FABRICATED LIE, HAVEN’T YOU PEOPLE HEARD THE BORDER IS SAFE AND SECURE, AS PER BIG SIS.
Report Post »1TrueOne55
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:48pmWith the fact that the Drug Cartels have uniforms from all the major law enforcement agencies I would not be afraid to say that they are doing what their Hezbollah teachers are getting them to find out for an ability to get into the US without papers and carry out a Terrorist attack on the Midwest somewhere.
Report Post »Remember the Patrick Swayze movie Red Dawn was an invasion of the midwest from the south but with at the time was portrayed as Cuban Military. All you have to do is swap out either organisation and the same scenario could play out if the worlds food supplies that are grown in the US are wanted by other Governments.
aerorepairo
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:59pmAmerica needs to follow Israel’s lead as far as border security goes.
Report Post »Elena2010
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 3:07pmThey must have really wanted those $20 chairs the hunters had stolen fm them!
Last night, well after dark, a BP agent jumped the fence into my gated community chasing some bad guy. I heard him stomping thru the brush and trying to wade the water behind my house. So it does nto surprise me that the Federales crossed and shot. Perhaps if we returned fire? Just sayin’…
Report Post »hud
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 5:18pmTake an M 14 with scope along with you and send them home in body bags, and they’ll never bother your hunting again.
Report Post »Wyatt's Torch
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 5:47pmNext time you dove hunt near the border, leave your shotgun at home and take your AR-15
Report Post »Ron on the Rio Grande
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 11:18pm3000 miles of border. The geology varies a lot. You are talking out of your ass.
Report Post »Spark
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 11:49pm@jezcruzen
Sure … You fire bird shot at Mexican troops armed with semi-automatic weapons and see how long you survive. What a ditz!
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on September 4, 2011 at 12:10amWe need to elect Ron Paul. He’s the ONLY CANDIDATE that has constantly said he will bring our troops home to secure our borders and protect our citizens. We need our troops here in the US now. No more BS and compromising our Constitution for foreign nations and interests. Enough of this global war on terror crap. Secure our damn borders with our military already. We don’t need our troops in bases all over the world. We got enough problems here at home. And we’re broke. Stop this invasion of illegal aliens taking advantage of and abusing our resources, land and government for their benefit and use.
Report Post »OneCitizenOfTheRepublic
Posted on September 4, 2011 at 6:04amThe NEXT American Revolution is coming…When our federal government (Obama, et. al.) REFUSES to enforce the laws intended to protect our nation from invation, fails to protect our citziens and keep us safe…and then denies the states their rights to defend their own citizens it is time for a change in government, regardless of what day it is on a calendar. Some things simply must not be allowed to stand.
Report Post »mfwil
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 1:06pmthey had a need for the hunters’ chairs!
Report Post »Banana Republic Capitalist
Posted on September 5, 2011 at 2:08pmHow much of our debt does Mexico own? Will this be the way in which we allow our nation’s debtholders to stake their territory? I hear China’s taking over a big patch of land in Idaho…
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:12amMexico keeps testing the waters.. in our religion we have been told that if we as a nation do not repent, then God will unleash the Mexican/Indian people on us… God help us!
Report Post »Darren
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 5:12am“in our religion we have been told that if we as a nation do not repent, then God will unleash the Mexican/Indian people on us…”
Huh?
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:55amThat‘s the main reason I don’t like Rick Perry. He could have made a law much like Arizona, but apparently didn’t want to get sued. We are overrun with illegals. Oh, but they just want a job (and benifits for their 8 kids and wife). You go to the social security office or the Department of Public Safety (DMV in other states) and it’s all you see. I would not doubt if the Driver‘s license place gives out driver’s license to illegals.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:22amWhat crazy religion is that? I am not a biblical expert but I am pretty sure that the words “Mexican” and “Indian” isn’t in it. Is this one of those new age religions?
Report Post »chazman
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:32am@ABBY
Huh?
Report Post »Mountain Dew
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:39am@RICKFROMILLINOIS It’s a Mormon thing, well, kind of. What I mean is it’s not officially taught by the Mormon Church (and no it doesn’t say Mexican or Indian in The Book of Mormon either). Some members of the Mormon Church believe that the Hispanic people (not just Mexicans) will one day turn on the United States and destroy the U.S. after the people have shown they are unwilling to obey God’s commandments. The words Mexican and Indian are never actually used and A LOT of inference is used by members of the LDS Church to claim it will be those people.
Report Post »bioengineer
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:29pmYea, what religion is that? And you do realize 95% of Mexicans are Chrisitan, predominately Catholic? I wonder if in their Bibles it says they if the USA doesn’t repent they Gold will use them to punish us, lol
Report Post »bioengineer
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:45pm@MountainDew, I‘m Mormon and you don’t know what the heck you’re talking about. I’m someone who actively studies deep aspects of LDS teachings, wildly speculative things such as the White Horse prophecy, and I‘ve never even heard of what you’re talking about. Right now there are more Mormons in Mexico and South America than in the USA, by a rather significant margin. A high % of Mormons in the USA are also Spanish-speaking, because of the large numbers that have served two-year missions in Spanish-speaking countries. And in border states like Texas there are vast numbers of Mexican-American members. I live in the Austin area and most of the leadership in my ward and stake are Hispanic. Nearly every stake in the entire state also has at least one Spanish-speaking ward, some several. Native spanish speakers probably make up 1/5-1/4 of all Mormons in TX. Including second-language speakers probably half among adult Priesthood holders. I would say as a church (and religion) we have one of the absolute most liberal and embracing attitudes when it comes to hispanic culture. I know of no fear regarding Mexicans, Indians, or anybody. We do believe that we are living in the last days, as does all of Christianity, anybody that believes in the Second Coming.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:48pmRead the Book of Mormon!! It is the truth! I challenge anyone, all that is happening right now is happening right now. Better yet.. buy the Book of Mormon made easier.. it really explains it. They are called the Lamanites.. and God has promised to unleash them on us if we do not repent and turn to him. You may laugh if you wish or scoff or ridicule. But it is all in writing from Prophets of God!
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:17pmI don’t want to speak for her, but I think she just means enemies. They are not coming here legally, so they are invaders. I agree that we as a nation need to turn back to God.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 4:32pmMountain Dew;
“Some members of the Mormon Church believe that the Hispanic people (not just Mexicans) will one day turn on the United States and destroy the U.S. after the people have shown they are unwilling to obey God’s commandments.”
Huh. That could be true but i’ve never heard it before.
Abbygirl;
“They are called the Lamanites.. and God has promised to unleash them on us if we do not repent and turn to him. ”
i figured that’s what you were going with but frankly that is NOT what the LDS Church teaches in our times. the lamanites were the enemies of the Lord in the Book of Mormon times though tere were definite times where the Lamanites were more righteous than the Nephites and thus received the Lord’s blessings more abundantly than the Nephites. But the way I read it, if we are not righteous then the Lord will unleash enemies upon this land but those enemies are not defined as far as I can tell. I think those who disintigrate and devalue family, God, and godly virtues are among those who’ll destroy this land and that is hardly exclusive to any one race or ethnic group.
I do agree 100% that sin and destruction do go hand in hand.
Report Post »Mountain Dew
Posted on September 4, 2011 at 1:05am@BIOENGINEER Well if you actually bothered to read my post instead of going off on an emotional rant you would of seen that I stated that it WAS NOT an official teaching of the Mormon Church, but a belief held by SOME Mormons. If you are as educated about LDS beliefs as you claim then you woiuld be well aware of what I’m referring to and realize that I was not not trying to disparage Hispanic people or Mormons as you seem to be suggesting. Put you reactionary temper back on idle and think before you speak (type). The person who started this particular thread left an ambigious statement and I was simply trying to clarify what they were referrring to. If you want to get your panty hose all tied up in knots at someone then perhaps you should address your frustration at them.
Report Post »Ron_WA
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:32amHey I welcome this!!! At least the Mexican federales are making an attempt to police the border; Lord knows US authorities aren’t doing enough.
Report Post »Da Kingfish
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:40pmMy ass, they are protecting the cartels and the mules, you must live in a tequila fog.
Report Post »vehoae
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:42pmRON_WA: You surely are not a “baby boomer”, or older. The X, Y, and Z generations are the generations that are not being taught non-revisionist history. If you are from the “baby boomer” generation …. well, all I can say is, it’s sad that you do not understand why it is unacceptable if another country invades this country — for watever reason. During the 11th through 18th centuries, Europeans and Eurasians invaded the Americas, accompanied by charters and contracts which precisely detailed pre-meditated murder and extermination of the people to whom these lands had belonged for a very long time. When the indigenous people tried to rebuff those invasions, they were labeled “savages” and referred to as “non-humans.” So, I will be very interested in learning what reason Congress and bHo and his ilk will have for taking no official action to rebuff Mexico’s repeated invasions of our country. Is some kind of precedent being laid down for a future turning back to Mexico of our southern border lands? After all, Pima County, AZ, and thirteen of California’s southernmost counties are already in litigation to secede.
Might I suggest a reading of AGENDA 21 at http://habitat.igc.org/agenda21/ . You should also watch Lou Dobbs‘ CNN segment on globalization politicians’ efforts to implement a borderless continent called the North American Union … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ernLnhIR8uI
Lord, come quickly.
Report Post »libertytreecaretaker
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:22amHere in California the Governor is days away from signing legislation to give illeagels state college grants. I am so f—ing sick to my stomach right now! The only way to turn this country around is physically remove progressives from office. I can’t wait for someone with nothing else to lose initiates this. In CAlifornia there are a majority of hispanics that live on government hand outs. Voting is no longer an option!
Report Post »survivorseed
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:44amI thought the tea party was a religion of peace and not a bunch of redneck terrorists.
Report Post »NatGuardMom
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 4:03amIn reply to Survivorseed’s comment. Not everyone has to be a part of a tea party movement to feel the same way.
Report Post »jorja
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 4:34amLegislation to give ill eagles state college grants? Enough is enough. I don’t think we should give healthy eagles state college grants.
Report Post »lee48md
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 5:22amAnd didn’t Moonbeam tell all the conservatives to leave and go to their neighboring AZ? Evidently, there is no freedom of speech in CA either.
Report Post »Ampleforth
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 7:23amYeah, but, Jorja, a lot of eagles are smarter than most college students. Even ill eagles.
Report Post »FedUpAlready
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:36amhttp://media.causes.com/1098660?p_id=179631924&s=fb_feed&ref=nf
Report Post »You wanna really get pissed, watch this!
hidden_lion
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 9:24amIt is the communist infiltrators in the government, AKA progressives, AKA Democrats, AKA RINOs that are the terrorists. Taking them out is a civic duty.
Report Post »The ME-ssiah
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:21amThey were here to buy guns. Was Eric Holder in the area with a box truck by any chance?
Report Post »jzs
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:40am“A national watchdog group says the Mexican Government incursion that happened just a few miles outside of El Paso could be a major security threat to the nation.”
With all due respect, I’m, not worried about the Mexican government posing a “major security threat to the nation. Mexico is going to start a war with us?
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:19am@JZS,
With no respect at all, you don’t think there is any way they can cause problems outside of starting a war with us?
Only 10 days till GBTV. aren’t you excited?
Report Post »EODGhost
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:27amWhen the Mexican Military can enter our country without reprieve? Yeah it is a threat to the security of any American near the border, “safely” on his/her side.
Report Post »Wake up Jacka**.
Steve
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:58amTypical left wing clown troll.
Report Post »Mountain Dew
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 6:28am@ JZS What is a Mexican Authority now days? Half of them work for the Cartels. Especially if we’re talking about so called authorities on the border. These hunters may have been mistaken for armed Minute Men. The armed response from the Mexican “Authorities” may have simply been a scare tactic to clear the way for drug mules etc.. I agree that Mexico isn’t in a positon itself to cause a security threat. That troubled nation can barely keep itself together. But I wouldn’t dismiss the danger of armed cartel activity now crossing into our territory and threatenting our own citizens. It‘s not just a Mexican problem anymore if that’s the case.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 4:11pmThey don’t have to resort to this tactic when they can now just drive the drugs in by the tractor trailer load legally now. I am sure some of our government officials are in the drug trade and the Mexican cartels are in the shipping business. The real problem sadly is the Americans (that’s us) consumption of the drugs.
No buyer… no seller !!!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:13amPersonally here are the most likely scenarios as I see these incursions over the last few months:
A. Smugglers allied with the Mexican border police, trying to hold onto smuggling and drug routes.
B. Narco-terrorist cartels are making a play to cross the border and seize control part of the border states for themselves from the United States.
C. Terrorist bands, such as Hezbollah and recently “Iraqi smugglers” caught infiltrating the border are disguising themselves as Mexican border guards and military forces; purpose is to destabalize the borders, intensify hatered between the nations, and probe for weaknesses to be exploited by them and any allied forces (such as the narco cartels).
D. A combination of terrorist and narco cartels seeking to cause enough of a disruption that the US under Obama will move to fortify the border or actually invade Mexico in the name of “national interest and security” to establish a buffer zone or such. If the invasion comes, then they will use established bases and operatives to start slaughtering the US troops and strikes into US territory in response to the ‘hostile actions done to the innocent people of Mexico.”
I have to wonder just how much of this Obama is letting happen, and how much he is instigating on the behalf of his extremist terrorist allies?
Report Post »M 4 Colt
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:25amSnow i know you live in Arizona and with the gun laws they have there and the number of gun owners do you really think that they stand much of a chance of “taking back” the border states and making them part of Mexico. Now as far as California goes, well that state i am sorry to say is a lost cause and since the state is already 40% Mexican they already own it, no great loss the rest of the state is made up of hippy s, progressives and left wing nut jobs.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 5:37am@M 4 Colt:
If any of the narco cartels decided indeed to try and take AZ, or Texas, the body count on their part, of dead cartel members would be horrendous indeed. The thing is though, I do talk with people and we do the “what if” scenarios, and these are the four most common we keep coming up with.
And mind you, in these discussion groups, on many topics, we always have one or two (prefered two) to play the devils advocate and attempt to logically tear things to peices. Yet in the case of a cartel striking out northward, success or fail, would give Obama an excuse to make a further mess of things and grab more power indeed.
Always to me, when the most illogical scenarios are dismissed come two events of history:
Chamberlain saying, while waving a peice of paper “We have peace in our time…”
So called Mid-East experts saying “Saddam Hussein will never invade Kuwait, he is bluffing…”
Just because we dismiss the idea as illogical, does not make it the same for someone else. Especially if they have the common sense of a terrorist or cartel leader; i.e. none.
Report Post »Airb0rne4325
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 4:12pm@ M4 Colt
I believe it may be the same scenario as what’s being played out in the UK. The Muslim incursion into the fabric of their society and using their (UK’s) laws against them to proliferate. Same happening in the US, esp. in the border states. The one’s we “took” from Mexico during the Mexican-American War in the 1840′s.
Infuse yourself into the society, become an entrenched member of that society and use it’s own laws to your favor. Garnish as much as you can from the working class until the system collapses and then take over. They have guns too. The Reconquista’s and the Mexican Drug Cartels and the Latino Gangs will all work together in this attempt.
“It is not our fault that whites don’t make babies, and blacks are not growing in sufficient numbers, and there’s no other groups with such a goal to put their homeland back together again. We do. Those numbers will make it possible. I believe that in the next few years, we will see an irredentists movement, beyond assimilation, beyond integration, beyond separatism, to putting Mexico back together as one. That’s irridentism. One Mexico, one nation.”–Jose Angel Guiterrez-Poli Sci Prof at University of Texas 1999. Source Wikipedia.
Throw a little extra help from New Black Panthers, any Radical Islamic element and yes it is possible that it could happen from within our borders and from outside our borders in coordination.
Report Post »ANOTHER ISOLATED INCIDENT
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:12amMexico is our friend. Now be quiet while we colonize. shhhhhhhh!
Report Post »LinkedIn G
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:04amIs it chupacabra season or duck season or wabbit season ?
Report Post »Liberty1791
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:02amWe should have American Militia practicing sniper shots 24/7. Should slow the smarter ones for awhile. Its a win win.
Report Post »Boojer56
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 11:08amYou Know who the department of justice will go after, Can you say Gringo. Does any one remenber Obamas speech about overseeing the decline of america, If so think about that! is the failed stimulus, the debt ceiling debacle npne opf which worked. Us pesky conservative Americans don’t want to play ball So the prez wil force the decline “under the radar”
Report Post »flattop
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:59am“A Mexican federal police spokesman could not be reached.”
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You’re not supposed to call during Siesta!
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 4:54amFor Spanish press two!
Report Post »Blazeanswerman
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:58amI’m tired of these “incursions”. First there was the military trucks entering the U.S and the mexican govt said that they didn’t know the area that well and accidentally crossed into the U.S. Then it was the helicopter that landed in the U.S to reasons I don’t even remember, but now we have this “incursion”. I say if they do it again then you light em up like a christmas tree. Sounds like a national security threat and I was that hunter I’d be firing back.
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:38amDo you want to take on police armed with automatic weapons when you have a shotgun with light (7s or 8s) dove loads?
Report Post »If you want to commit suicide have at it.
loadingmyclips
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:12amIf they had shotguns then Bill is correct hold your fire and hide. BUT a good scoped rifle would have been fun
Report Post »LinkedIn G
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:56amSounds like tactics Hamas employs in the Middle East … Constantly harrassing the border … almost begging for retaliation to make us out to be the bad guy. I wonder who’s training people south of the border. This administration is allowing a flood across the border. Coincedence ? I think not.
Report Post »Axle1
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:35amWhat takes some people a couple day of to learn… Takes others a life time…. And some just never learn…
Report Post »Axle1
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:41amSamantics ??? That’s what they do best….
Report Post »El Pistoffo
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:50amEnough is enough. This has to end now. The border needs to be secured and guarded immediately. What the heck is wrong with those in charge with securing this nation? Are they imbeciles? There are incursions of foreign forces into our country. Wake up you a$$clowns!!!!!!!
Report Post »loadingmyclips
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:04amListen Pistoffo the clowneared fool was on vacation. besides what is a friendly incurrsion or two??
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:46amUh, there is no difference between the Mexican army and the drug smugglers. They are the same.
Report Post »Axle1
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:46amFunded by Eric hold our asses for a while…..???? How long……. ? As long as we let him……
Report Post »Axle1
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:52amAnd they are funded by Eric hold our a–es….. For how long ? As long as we let them…..
Report Post »AR_OR_AK
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:38amI say all of this is dry runs. Or maybe I just like the movie “Red Dawn” too much. Either way, if the Army ain’t here to defend us, and the Border Patrol is stretched too thin, then the local Citizens/Militia should (and do) have the right to fire on them. Especially if they fire 1st. If I can shoot an intruder in my home, anybody should be able to shoot an intruder in our country.
Report Post »CleanUpAisle2013
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:52amOur country is our home and there are lots of home invasions taking place from the direction of Mexico.
Report Post »adastra2005
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:39amYou got my vote.
Report Post »Nathan
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:38amIt seems obvious to me that the federal government is intentionally allowing this to go on.. We should really wonder why….scary.
Report Post »Dangerous Dave
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:53amIt’s no wonder to me. It’s allowed to go on to undermine our sovereignty & create chaos & anarchy. This will help the gubmint increase their power over the citizenry. The destruction of our liberties must precede the coming power grab.
Report Post »Dangerous Dave
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:01amI should say “attempted power-grab”. I won’t go down without a fight, and I‘m sure many others won’t, either. Besides, I fight dirty and I’m not interested in being “re-edumacated!”
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:40amJust another reason we need a real border wall. screw the “fence” concept.
Nip it in the bud and be done with already.
Nice concept if the global elite didn’t call the shots.
Report Post »Just like you said, they want social chaos.
United we stand, Divided we fall.
They want a NAU – North American Union
The Global elite do not want a border. The Agenda21 map calls it the 124 mile wide International Zone of Cooperation or Border 21.
Diversity worked for America for centuries; Come here and be a proud American and enjoy our culture.
Multiculturalism is destroying our country; Come here and denounce America and it’s culture.
It is destroying the social fabric of our Country, and getting worse daily.
Our Country is under an all-out economic and social attack.
Our Government is gone.
Just a bunch of minions running around, dancing and making noises, posing as politicians.
Axle1
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 3:41amThe wall… ? The fence….? The tunnels…. ? The drug submersibles… ? The Reo G river…???? We are ******’ up a wet rope…. With the people running this un-united states of ????? Un-recognizable some place in Florida / U.S.A…. ???? Battles from day one…. The snake and the tree of life….. And battles ever since….? And it goes on 1000 years after the battle, let him out…. for the final battle…???? Why the constant battles ? God…. the all knowing…. and the Devil…. the all loosing (but taking out many) why are there so many wires that got connected to the wrong terminal block ? And not by choice…. Their wires just were not connected right from the beginning….? I think someone is laughing at us all, as they re sift the sand in the ant farm…..???? And the battle continues….. Why ?
Report Post »loadingmyclips
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 10:05amThis would not happen in North Korea
Report Post »Ken2
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:36am“A Mexican federal police spokesman could not be reached.”
Try looking for him in Grapevine…or maybe Tulsa by now.
Report Post »jmgair
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:32amHow many times has this happened this alone and this administration seems as unaware of this as they are about Uncle Omar & his DUI ? Maybe the Mexican officials did act “stupidly” so bring on the Cerveza Summit and maybe some tequilla shots to.
Report Post »muzikant
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:39amthose shots fired WERE tequila shots
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:32amgosh, it’d be nice to have a protected, guarded border.
Report Post »BuckeyeWithA45
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 2:47amNow now Janet Hippalotano says its the safest its ever been she wouldn’t lie would she??
Report Post »Ken2
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:32amEvery day, in every way: Whiskey…Tango…Foxtrot?!?!?!? What has happened to US?
Report Post »El Pistoffo
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:42am“What has happened to US?”
We got a sissy in charge.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:48amWe have had crony socialists in charge for a long time.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:29amThe Feds won’t protect the border, That’s a proven fact!!! IT’S TIME FOR WE THE PEOPLE TO PROTECT OUR COUNTRY and Take it back!!
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 8:46amRemember Roger Barnett, he stopped a large group of UDAs crossing his land. he held than a gun point unrtil the Border Patrol picked them up.
Report Post »They sued him claiming that he caused delayed stress syndrome, by pointing a gun at them. They won.
Roger may have to sell his ranch if his appeals are not successful.
NEMATIC
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:28amI would be on pins and needles if I lived anywhere near the Mexican border . Until we get someone who is honestly concerned about our security, all of us are vulnerably.
Report Post »Dangerous Dave
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:22amThe Mexican Federal Police acted stupidly. Time for another cerveca summit.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:19amSaid it before and will say it again: use drones to deal with these nasty, secretive killers..
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 12:16amI know of only one person that would shut down the border as a matter of national security if he was the President of the USA… Allen West. If only he were running for President!
http://www.AllenWestforPresident.us
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:05amAgreed Dave! This country will likely be beyond repair in 5 years when Lt. Col. West may feel he is ready but his country needs him now!
Report Post »blownaway
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 3:32amI agree… Allen West is the right guy for the job!
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:14pmShame shame Dave, you should know that Ron Paul is strongly for closing the border using the troops we bring home from Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s REAL firepower.
Paul would use executive authority to direct the military to close the border. We’d finally be safe.
The others, including West, would try to get congress to pass laws or to fund something, which is a losing battle.
Report Post »Secessionista
Posted on September 3, 2011 at 1:18pmI believe you to be a patriot, dave.
I also want to point out that any American can shoot on site without asking questions any armed invading foreign force. I think we need to start organizing hunting parties to the border. This could be fun. They are testing our borders, testing our reactions, and this will only get worse. It is time to bring this to s stop right now.
Let’s call it “Paintball Weekend, with AR15′s”.
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