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5 Confirmed Dead in Tragic Yuma, Ariz. Shootings, Suspect Identified

5 Confirmed Dead in Tragic Yuma, Ariz. Shootings, Suspect Identified

YUMA, Ariz. (The Blaze/AP)—Yuma police say five people have been killed in a shooting that has forced authorities to close schools and the courthouse. Details about the shooter and victims were not immediately clear.

The Yuma Sun has more:

One other victim has been injured and airlifted to a Phoenix-area hospital.

Norred said the shootings are connected, and are currently under investigation.

Four of the fatal shootings took place out in the county, Norred said, while the fifth person was killed in Yuma.

Norred would not confirm the identity of any of the victims, but attorneys in the downtown Yuma area confirmed the Yuma victim was attorney Jerrold Shelley, who was shot and killed.

Norred also wouldn’t confirm if the suspect was alive or dead. However, traffic on the police scanner said the suspect in the shootings had taken his own life.

MSNBC continues:

The Yuma County Sheriff’s Office was called to the first scene this morning, when the body of a woman was found in a yard at Avenue 35-1/2E and Old Highway 80, the Sun said.

Around 9:21 a.m., the Yuma Police Department responded to a shooting in the 300 block of 2nd Avenue in Yuma, which is where Shelley was killed.

According to police scanner traffic followed by the Sun, two more shootings were reported in the Wellton area, followed by a report of a self-inflicted gunshot wound near Blaisdell off Highway 95. The Yuma Sun was not able to confirm the location of the sixth shooting

5 Confirmed Dead in Tragic Yuma, Ariz. Shootings, Suspect Identified

Wellton Mayor James Deermer said that he doesn’t have a lot of information about the shooting yet, but he called the incident a “tragedy.” According to the Yuma Sun:

Yuma Mayor Al Krieger commended public safety officers for their swift response to the tragedy.

“The situation has ended and now we’re sorting out the details,” he said.

“My sympathies to the families with this loss of life.”

This is a breaking news story. Stay tuned for updates.


UPDATE: From the Yuma Sun:

The suspect in a series of shootings around Yuma County is dead, police said. Carey Hal Dyess, 73, of Yuma, apparently shot and killed one person in Yuma and three people in Yuma County before shooting himself, according to a press release from the Yuma Police Department.

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  • calicogwen
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:41pm

    From twitter BreakingNews:

    http://www.yumasun.com/articles/sheriff-70412-wellton-county.html

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  • The_Almighty_Creestof
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:40pm

    And for the record, Yume PD is first rate, well financed and well trained. They also seem to believe in the “swarm” technique…you bring one down on you and you are getting all of them…even off duty. Great bunch of guys and gals.

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    • Entropy
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:48pm

      Yeah, nothing like 50 to one odds to even the score. Real brave bunch of guys and gals.

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    • Wedge
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 4:02pm

      well lets see…. if I was a cop, and you shot one of my fellow comrades.. I think I, along with the rest of the crew that was around.. would open fire..
      If you want to talk gun control, that should have had tighter laws years and YEARS ago! Saying a gun kills people is like saying a car kills people? How about the kid that falls off a bicycle and hits his head and dies, was it the bikes fault? PEOPLE kill PEOPLE! Period. I for one am all for an armed society. First a gun saftey program, second a thorough background check, I mean thorough.!! If you have had so much as a domestic dispute anywhere in the past say 5 years, anything linked to violence, no gun being sold to you. The problem is that now, there are sooooooooooooooooooooooo many guns out there already, nobody could ever get an accurate count. TEACH people, hell, when I was in 7th grade we actually had a Hunter/Gun saftey course in school. Actually went to the firing range and fired our weapons, under SUPERVISED instructors. I have had a gun in my possesion since I was 8 years old and not once.. did I EVER think of shooting someone! If a person wants to kill you, THEY WILL FIND A WAY! butter knife.. hammer, baseball bat.. etc..etc..etc…

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  • jdog777
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:39pm

    So far… Jerrold Shelley is a general attorney that includes personal injury, criminal, divorce… etc.

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  • ChiefGeorge
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:39pm

    Commence the hand wringing!

    Nannies: What to do about all the shooting sprees in the USA. Easy, confiscate all guns! Its coming folks, its been building and it will happen soon.

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  • www.Cryptoportico.com
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:37pm

    Yep… this is a clear case… it‘s the gun’s fault and the police will “act stupidly.”

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  • MLV 1055
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:33pm

    Sounds domestic. They shut the schools in case he went for the kids, bet me.

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    • Entropy
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:45pm

      I’ll bet ya. They lock down the schools if a juniper bush falls off the back of landscaping truck.

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  • ModerationIsBest
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:28pm

    I live in AZ. Same ole same ole.

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  • cbazan3
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:25pm

    There are no innocents in this world. You are either tough enough to fight and survive or you are not. I hate to tell ya. In a nation that has murdered over 50 million babies since 1973, there are no innocents.

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  • El Jefe
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:23pm

    My CHL is on the way…better get yours people…

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  • LINKSTER
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:23pm

    Damn Bush.

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  • smlgov
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:21pm

    I’m sure the libs will blame Sarah Palin.

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  • Tusker
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:19pm

    I hate to hear/read stories like this. The only positive thing in stories like this is when there’s that happy ending where the shooter takes his own life. Condolences to the families affected by this tragedy.

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    • Entropy
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:43pm

      The shooter may have been justified in his actions. You never know or can say that until you get the facts. Like Dirty Harry said ” there is nothing wrong with shooting, as long as the right people get shot”. But, you are probably right. I feel sorry for the perps too. It is terrible that a person would be driven to that.

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  • Texas Grasshopper
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:18pm

    I posted somewhere on a story here that when people feel cornered thats a bad thing ……the rule of Law in the US ( Consistution) has been taken a beating lately ….the tickle down effects is a bad thing ( lump Politcs, economy , social stuff all together ) ….make a tough row to hoe when you are not grounded in the three principles ….God , Family , Community/work/ Purpose ( the third one is interchangable with others )

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  • abbygirl1994
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:18pm

    Give us more Blaze, we want to know if it is illegals! Or liberals for that matter!

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  • frustratedwithgovt
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:16pm

    Lets see what the facts bring.

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    • code green
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:26pm

      If everybody did that, there would be no blogs .

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    • patriot308
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:42pm

      I’m guessing it is a guy who shoots his wife, her attorney, and then a couple of people who get his way. Then suicide. That‘s what I’m putting together????

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    • Nobamazone
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:02pm

      that is what I was thinking patriot, however, in AZ it could also be drug/illegal related… we need more info

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  • Arizona4Ever
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:16pm

    Let‘s hope this guy’s not a member of the Tea Party….

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    • RLTW
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:30pm

      If that was the case the libs would have it plastered all over the news. If it’s an illegal it will cross the MSM ticker once really fast.

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    • Entropy
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:38pm

      @RLTW
      IF it was a TEA party guy, it would have reached Moscow by now.

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  • Marylou7
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:11pm

    Violence on our borders is going to continue until our government closes the border down. Heavenly Father please be with Arizona’s citizens and keep them safe. Don‘t know if illegals are the problem but one can’t help but think such thoughts.

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:14pm

      @MARY LOU~~~
      The gov’t. isn’t going to close or control the borders. WE THE PEOPLE are going to have to do it in teams, I guess. By golly we will if they won’t!

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  • lindathepatriot
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:11pm

    I suppose that somehow this is Bush‘s fault or Palin’s fault.

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  • TSUNAMI-22
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:10pm

    Now remember everyone…it‘s the gun’s fault…not the shooter.

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    • code green
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:20pm

      “A sword never kills anyone, it is a tool in the killers hand”.
      Lucius Annaeus Seneca ………..4 BC—- 65 AD

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    • ZeitgeistBuster
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:15pm

      If guns kill people, then pencils make spelling errors.

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  • Arizona4Ever
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:10pm

    At least I see this story here on the Blaze nut not on Fox News – yet. This isn’t confirmed yet, but the police scanner here says the shooter killed himself. Schools are still locked down, but expect that to be lifted soon.

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    • Untameable-kate
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:26pm

      Are any local channels saying anything about it?? I looked and can’t find anything.
      Probably just some one who got frustrated trying to figure out the food pyramid and went on a crazed rampage!

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  • DVT
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:09pm

    1…2…3…and i’m sure someone will blame sarah palin for this shooting too, or is it only her fault when its politically expedient(i.e. congresswomen)

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  • Freedom Keeper
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:09pm

    Those victims are in my prayers, keep us updated!

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  • Vickie Dhaene
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:08pm

    The pace of violence is being ramped up. Lord, please pray for the innocent.

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  • nacilbuper
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:07pm

    Tragic

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  • Luckywon
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:06pm

    Another shooting in Az? Who want‘s to bet it’s either an Illegal, or an illegal sympathizer?

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    • D0ntTread0nMe
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:08pm

      I am willing to put 20 cents on an illegal alien… you got me covered?
      http://www.mythoughtsfromthemiddle.blogspot.com

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    • Untameable-kate
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:16pm

      I just went through our local news channels and cant find anything. Not a word.

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    • Luckywon
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:20pm

      Got ya covered Tread. 20 cents

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    • Dont-hate-on-me-2
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:20pm

      just think if more people were armed there would have been quite possibly two deaths, the first is the victim, the second would be the shooter. just sayin.

      this is horrible.

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    • Luckywon
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:23pm

      just my thoughts on this. Its not a shooting at one location… ie; disgruntled worker who has been fired goes back to the job and opens fire. Not this one.
      This is random shootings around the countryside… someone roaming around killing people at random. IE: terrorist attack. Probably homegrown though

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    • SeasonOfReason
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:25pm

      It’s also possible that if more people were armed then more people would have gotten killed. Just writin’.

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    • The_Almighty_Creestof
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:25pm

      Wow…I live in Yuma…first I’ve heard about it.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:26pm

      And here come the gun control advocates.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:28pm

      Could be the narco wars between two“ Mexican” can I say that? drug smuggling gangs.

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    • Entropy
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:30pm

      If it IS an illegal alien the govt will do everything they can to hide that fact. Just watch. That is why you cannot find anything on the perp.

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    • 101
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:34pm

      leaving the house without your gun is like leaving your wallet, you turn around go back and get it!

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    • The_Almighty_Creestof
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:38pm

      From what I’ve heard, 4 of the deaths took place in Wellton…about 30 miles from Yuma. This sounds like it was VERY personal ending in the death of an attorney in Yuma. Probably a nasty divorce or yet another poor country gone broke AND around the bend.

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    • AmericanPatriot01
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:38pm

      The cover up begins!!!
      The video has changed to an interview about nediscare with the wicked witch Palosi!!
      The will bury this story as deep as they can you wait and see!!

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    • Mike Westfall No Hiding
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:43pm

      More calls to keep us safe through the restriction, denial of new ownership and outright confiscation of guns will be made. Get rid of guns and their will be knives. Get rid of knives and there will be bats. Get rid of bats and their will be rocks. Get rid of rocks and there will be fists. How do you get rid of fists? Get rid of people. Research UN Agenda 21. I’m not a demoncrat but check this site out

      http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/

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    • Patrick in AZ
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:44pm

      The lawyer is a personal injury lawyer – my guess either a client or a defendant that was not happy with the outcome of a lawsuit. Their life was crap and they took it out on those they blamed for it

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:45pm

      The reason there are so many of these mass shootings in America is because White people are cracking after 30 plus years of multiculturialism, forced intregation, forced segregation, forced political correctness, forced affirmative action, and all kinds of other unnatural acts that are FORCED upon our people.

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:45pm

      If its an illegal or a Muslim they will spin it to make him an angry white Republican.

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    • angelcat
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:48pm

      But the media will automatically assume it is a conservative egged on my right-wing vitriol, right?

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:52pm

      @seasonof… Actually, statistics and history show the OPPOSITE to be the facts.

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    • gramma b
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:52pm

      Jerry Shelley is an old acquaintance and a good man. He represented me in a matter when I lived in Yuma decades ago. This makes me sick.

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    • von der Recht
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:00pm

      Sounds like a bitter divorce. My guess is the shooter was the ex-husband who shot his ex-wife, in-laws and her lawyer. If so, I hope he didn’t shoot the kids…….

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:04pm

      A lawyer was killed…..thank god nobody important died.

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    • ZeitgeistBuster
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:07pm

      @ SEASONOFREASON,

      I am alive because of the right to bear arms.

      My mom was a young widow with two young boys (4 & 2 y.o.) and she had to pull a gun (my dad’s 30/30) on a psycho who threatened to kill all of us if she did not tell him where his wife (my mom’s best friend) was. My mom pulled out the 30/30 and told him he had one chance to stay alive, and that if he ever showed up again, she would assume the worst and there would be no conversation, just bullets in his head.

      He had beat her repeatedly and my mom sent her bus fair and she got the hell away from this guy.
      We found out later that he went to prison shortly after this because he had beaten to death his next girlfriend.

      There was no way we could have kept this guy at bay long enough for the police to do anything for us except fill out a murder report and collect forensic evidence of our demise.

      I have friend in Yuma btw, and he repelled a pair of home invaders with a gun, protecting his wife and kids.

      Hell, even Tammy Bruce is a Liberal Babe who understood the need to be able to defend yourself, and thus was always a proud gun owner.

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    • Sheepdog911
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:09pm

      Ex-wife, her laywer and her friends – then self. He got the order wrong.

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    • BBomber66
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:20pm

      I’m going with domestic/legal. Maybe a custody suit gone wrong. The restraining order didn’t work.

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    • Showtime
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:22pm

      Was thinking the same thing!

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:30pm

      SEASONOFREASON: You’re not using any reasoning…when an unarmed person is confronted by an armed person willing to kill, the outcome is preordained. When an armed and trained person (normally the case with legal gun owners) is confronted by the same person, the chances are that the problem stops right there, many times with no one being killed….your “gunfight at the OK Corral” thinking just doesn’t exist in the real world!

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:34pm

      This will be used again by the administration for their own ends of gun control, and crackdown here in AZ, almost guaranteed.

      God above, comfort the ones close to the fallen, be with their families and bless the hands of the doctors and staff who are helping the injured one to fully and swiftly recover.

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    • upstateny
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:45pm

      Season…, When people like you just blurt out assumptions or more likely in your case a blatant lie. Study after study statistic after statistic proves you wrong. Also the country studied is irrelevant, citizens owning guns reduces crime. No matter how badly you want it to not be true it is. Go back to the rock you obviously live under, tool.

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    • gramma b
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:48pm

      Pickle, are the Democrats paying you to come here and post your stuff?

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    • upstateny
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:54pm

      Carey Hal Dyess come on people, when was the last time you have ever seen a Mexican with a last name of Dyess. Most of us are tired of the illegals too but lets work on reading comprehension.

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:58pm

      gramma b
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:48pm
      Pickle, are the Democrats paying you to come here and post your stuff?

      __________________________________________

      Believe it or not, I’m a conservative, tea party constitutionalist. Hate both dumbocrats and repukecans equally.

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    • Patrick in AZ
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:02pm

      @upstate – there was no name when those posts were made

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    • bjc535
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:03pm

      Seasonofreason….

      1) if everyone had guns, it probably wouldnt cross most peoples minds, to even attempt it. Yeah the man killed himself in the end, and probably because of pride or something…much more gratifying to take your own life before someone else can….

      2) When we say everyone, we mean the law abiding citizens, and because they are law abiding most of them would have taken shooting awareness class or something, and learned the dangers and how to properly use the guns…..

      3) Could a stray bullet have killed another person from either gun…the one going around killing people, or even the one trying to take him down….sure….but that whole scenerio would have probably ended at the first victim….and also you must remember it is challenging enough to shoot to kill the target you are aiming at….less likely to hit and kill someone you are not aiming at….not saying it doesn’t happen…but not likely…..I know i know you have seen tons of stories about stray bullets killing people…..well because the media loves those stories and will give them tons of airplay….

      3) Just because you do not understand guns, and are afraid of them, doesn’t mean they are bad. Guns do not explode….the reason I say this is because all the gun control people make it sound like if there is a gun in the vicinity everyone around it will die…..if this were the case all the soldiers would be dead….just because they are alive does not mean they have not been shot at…

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    • Patrick in AZ
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:05pm

      @ “big” pickle – over compensating for something? You strike me as one of those people who is ALWAYS the smartest person in the room

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:09pm

      Patrick in AZ
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:05pm
      @ “big” pickle – over compensating for something? You strike me as one of those people who is ALWAYS the smartest person in the room

      ______________________________________________________

      Nope….I’m just smart enough to get a college degree in economics, but pride myself on common sense.

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:10pm

      Oh dear God….glen is crying on his show and has a box of kleenex. Give me a break. Rolls Eyes!

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    • GODSAMERICA
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:14pm

      @luckywon
      Either that or a liberal progressive. Oh wait a minute that is covered under the illegal sympathizer, AKA freedom haters and law haters.

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    • survivorseed
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:22pm

      Don’t forget these people were living in Yuma….we can’t rule out mass suicide

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:30pm

      So much stupidity here, it really is quite sickening. As soon as this story showed up, many of you assumed it would be an illegal who was the shooter. Why not? It would reinforce you prejudices, and fit right into the paranoid racist narrative you’ve all been pushing. Now, that doesn’t seem to be the case. So, where are the apologies?

      And then there are the posts anticipating the gun control arguments, as if it were unfair for someone to make an argument based on facts and real events. If the shooter was in fact an illegal immigrant, obviously the incident would be used to make some political point about our borders and security and how immigrants are ruining this country, etc. etc. However, it is apparently completely out-of-bounds to use what ACTUALLY HAPPENED to reinforce an argument about gun control.

      So, you folks do the patented Blaze Shuffle. You construct an alternate counter-factual reality and use it to support your political beliefs, all while refusing to acknowledge the actual facts.

      This was a tragic incident. The idea of using this incident to make petty political attacks on immigrants without knowing any of the facts is just stupid.

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    • JoeAmerica
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:40pm

      Another one of you nutty insane Right-wingers.. AGAIN. Mad because the evil government unjustly regulates their coffee.

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:54pm

      @publuis

      I was one of the first people to say it was a White guy that cracked under the pressure of multiculturialsim or political correctness.

      What do I win for being right?

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    • @ Coyote2
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 6:00pm

      @SEASONOFREASON

      Hows that??

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    • techengineer11
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 6:02pm

      The Big Pickle “White people are cracking after 30 plus years of multiculturialism, forced intregation, forced segregation, forced political correctness, forced affirmative action, and all kinds of other unnatural acts that are FORCED upon our people.”

      First of all I’m not familiar with this story.. I was just reading the blog.. Although I am well aware of the results of multicult, dieversity, and desegregation.. It‘s not working was not intended to work and has no chance to work going forward but in the meantime big gov’t is clamping down taking more and more of our liberties and freedom..

      You go on and mention GB crying today.. I took a short nap after work and woke up to it.. I was cussing in a matter of minutes.. He’s truly a sicko shilling for Jews. .Probably being paid real well to lie to the people and deceive them into believing that Jews are always innocent..

      Anyway, I thought you were a big fan of Israel of the Jews? No? Or are you simply just making fun of GB crying?

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    • SeasonOfReason
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 6:14pm

      Ok. I understand the danger of guns, that is why I made the statement I did. I’m unaware of the statistics or studies cited. My statement was in response to the hypothesis that more guns could have led to less deaths. I was just proposing an alternate hypothesis.

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 6:20pm

      @ techengineer

      For of all 1488. We both know that it means. :wink:

      I understand where you are coming from regarding jews owning the banks, the media, the government etc..etc..etc… We just have a different order in listing our enemies. You have the joos at the top of the list and I have them about 5th on my list.

      And yeah…Glen is going way overboard with all his jew sympathy…they must have threatened to take away his publicity or blackmailed him into this submission. Either way, him sitting there with a box of tissues and crying is unwatchable.

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    • Professional Infidel
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 7:15pm

      let the mex’es kill each just like the bloods.

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    • brian8793
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 7:58pm

      That’s bullcrap Luckywon. Study your facts. Illegals don’t commit more crimes than citizens. Don’t be absurd. Are you a racist, or just ignorrant on the matter?

      I’m not for illegal aliens or the “crap” act, but I’m also not for scapegoating our problems on Mexicans…

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    • brian8793
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 8:01pm

      While I’m here, I might as well say what’s up to my fellow Arizona Conservatives on The Blaze. Is this not a beautiful day we’re having today? It’s almost like this every day!

      Also, if you are a Black or Hispanic, or Asian Conservative, get your butt out here! This is the greatest State in The Republic : )

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    • brian8793
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 8:05pm

      @THE BIG PICKLE- I‘m 6’2″, 240 pounds of solid muscle. I climb Squaw peak barefoot, I’m as tough as nails and I cry. Crying is as natural as farting.

      You should try it out some time…

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    • brian8793
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 8:23pm

      OMG BIG PICKLE—”He cracked under the pressure of multiculturalism?” That’s WEEEEEAAAAAAK!

      Everybody’s responsible for their own action, buddy. I just wish one of my friends was there so they could have laid him out before he murdered the others…

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    • Contrarian51
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 1:22am

      Those were some real good guesses about the shooter being an illegal. God forbid anyone would wait or look for a fact or two.

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    • SamIamTwo
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 9:05am

      Not very good odds…not worth betting on. Send in the marines.

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    • Classical Liberal
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 10:43am

      @ thebigpickle, you sound like of those westboro church hate mongers, not a tea party conservative.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 11:31am

      This is one time that liberal athiests get religion and actually pray. Every time a shooting hits the news, liberals and democrats get down on their knees, and pray” Oh dear God, please, please, please, let the shooter be white, drive a pick-up, hunt, fish, be an NRA member, watch Fox news, go to church, and be republican. And one other thing God, if he is a typical shooter, and is a minority, a muslim, a listner of violent rap music, or wears an Obama t-shirt, has long nappy braids, and is know to support liberal causes, please let the MSM not air anything about this shooting”.

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    • tasmaw
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 7:40pm

      No bet. I can’t afford to throw money away these days.

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