Brutality? Dramatic Arrest Video Pits Officer vs. ‘Drunk’ Soccer Fan
- Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:04am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
- Print »
- Email »
It looks more like a WWE wrestling match than an arrest, and the dramatic video is now causing a stir in San Diego.
It shows a police officer locked in a heated battle with a reportedly drunk fan at a soccer game. As the man resists arrest, the officer puts him in a choke hold. The officer then ends up on his back and struggles to flip the man over. Eventually the officer gets back on top and slams the man face-first into the concrete, which is accompanied by a loud slap (it‘s unclear if the sound is from the man’s face or hand). Now, police leaders are investigating:
[Warning: contains graphic language]
The man resisting arrest has been identified as 27-year-old David Rangel. KGTV showed Rangel’s arrest to the San Diego assistant chief of police, who said that they are looking into the incident, but was also quick to say that arrests aren’t always pretty:
10News showed the YouTube video to San Diego police’s Assistant Chief Bob Kanaski, who is in charge of the special duty officers who work the stadium.
“It’s a one-on-one type of incident. That officer is trying to get him into custody. He’s not getting cooperation from the individual, so his goal is to take him to the ground,” said Kanaski.
Kanaski said at first glance the officer appears to be using his training properly but said a full investigation is being launched to see if there was something he could have done differently.”
Sometimes what we do may not be pretty. When you’re dealing with individuals who fail to cooperate, sometimes those things do happen. It may look bad to those who don’t understand. The bottom line is that you still have to rely on the officer to do what he believes is the right thing to do at a particular time and in this case here, to get that person into custody,” he said.
The man who took the YouTube video told KGTV that he thought it was obvious police brutality. And his description posted along with the video says as much:
When I got there, it looked like two guys (obviously drunk) were about to start fighting. So the police tried to intervene. The had one guy under control but the other one tried to get near the guy being held down. At that point the second officer, tried to push the other guy back but when he didn’t do as he was told, he tried to take him down. The police guy started punching him on the face and then landed a couple elbows on this guy’s face. The guy at that point looked like he was just trying to protect himself – remember he was drunk so I‘m sure he wasn’t processing things the same way. Then the police guy put his arm around this guys neck to try to subdue him and you can tell in the video the guy was giving up. At one point you can see the guy raising his hands to show the cop he‘s going to start cooperating and at that point the cop decides to smash this guy’s head on the concrete (the sound that his head makes when it hits the ground was nasty). At that point the guy stops moving (his head starts bleeding immediately), the cop is able to put the handcuffs on him then he yells at him “Put your hands behind your [fu**ing] back”.
But Kanaski said the video doesn’t tell the whole story. Rangel and his fellow fan were removed from the stadium after throwing things at people during the soccer match, putting the public in danger, he said.
Neither the officer nor Rangel suffered major injuries. Rangel was booked into jail for being drunk in public, obstructing justice and for battery on a police officer.
Popular Stories
MSNBC Host Snaps in Heated Segment: ‘What in the World Is Riskier Than Being a Poor Person in America?’ 695 Comments
Does Misstated Marathon Claim Prove Paul Ryan Is Dishonest? (POLL) 666 Comments
‘Jumah at the DNC’ Speaker: ‘Muslims Visited America Prior to Columbus’ & ‘It Was a Muslim’ Who Guided Him to the ‘New World’ 525 Comments
Paper Details Obama Admin’s Alleged Secret Note Sent to Iran: If Israel Attacks, We Won’t Get Involved 368 Comments
Obama: RNC Like Watching ‘Black-and-White TV’ Because Romney ‘Did Not Offer a Single New Idea’ 364 Comments
Faith
This Is the Creationists‘ Response to Scientist Bill Nye’s Viral Pro-Evolution Video Claiming They Harm Children 241 Comments- Pakistani Muslim Cleric Accused of Framing Disabled Christian Girl in Koran-Burning Case Read More
- ‘Made Up Religion’: TV Historian Enrages Muslims, Receives Threats After Producing UK Documentary Questioning Islam’s Beginnings 254 Comments
Meet the Controversial German Imam Accused of Brutally Beating His Wife & Pushing Sharia Law Read More
‘Self-Proclaimed Messiah’ & Unification Church Leader the Rev. Sun Myung Moon Has Died — Here’s His Life Story Read More
Business
President Obama Issues Major ‘Green Energy’ Executive Order Read More- Germany’s Upcoming Court Ruling Will be Huge for the EU Read More
Ford Looks to Beat Toyota for Best-Selling Car in 2012 With This Model 147 Comments
Bernanke & QE3: Here’s What You Need to Know Read More- ‘Extortion’: Why Did the Labor Department ‘Drop the Hammer’ on Oregon Farmers? 300 Comments
Technology
- This Is the Creationists‘ Response to Scientist Bill Nye’s Viral Pro-Evolution Video Claiming They Harm Children 241 Comments
‘TaserDrone’: Hackers Weaponize Quadcopter With Actual ‘Shocking’ Technology Read More
Ever Heard of the Wild ‘Burning Man’ Festival in the Middle of the Nev. Desert? Here’s Your Primer Read More
Stanford Develops Technology ‘Better Than Steroids’ for Athlete Recovery Read More
Have You Pretended to Know What ‘the Cloud’ Is? You’re Not Alone Read More
Submitting your tip... please wait!
Comments (226)
David Pasztor
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:47amThe Police Officer should have been trained how to arrest people without SLAMMING their head on the concrete.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:47pmAgreed.
Report Post »code green
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 1:08pmThe tactic is taught in rookie school. It is a shock move,which stuns the perp. The shock tactic can involve what you saw in the clip,or the perp being slung hard against a wall. . If the officer was not properly trained he probably have used his baton because he was alone in the arrest. Which could cause real harm. Been there done that got the t-shirt .
Report Post »I don’t expect civilans to understand tactics ,but trust me the drunk really got off easy.I think the officer used restraint.
zorro
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 1:26pmLOL…“civilians”
I’m actually looking out for the cop Code Green. I really am. I know a little bit about “stun moves” and am only arguing the fact I feel this one was poorly executed. I feel it is the cop who is lucky the suspect didn’t get hurt. It would have sucked for him to ruin his career over some idiot drunk.
Report Post »hud
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 1:28pmHey, life has consequences. You make the wrong decision, you risk your head hitting the concrete. You can’t cure stupid, but the moron perp might think twice next time. He showed great restraint, I would have shot the ***** with the camera.
Report Post »Chilloften
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:44amLooks to me like the cop is trying every possible last ditch effort in an attempt to hold this POS down, with no back up. It sucks to work with the public, I’m an RN and HATE it with every fiber in body. Def would never recommend being police officer to the young folks, working with libs- BLOWS
Report Post »Betula
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:38amThe guy who took the video states… “remember he was drunk so I‘m sure he wasn’t processing things the same way”. Really? He knows he was drunk? Did he do a breathalyzer? He knows for a fact he wasn’t on drugs? Oh, and could he please tell us how the guy normally procecesses things, since he wasn’t processing the “same way”. The same way as who? Him? Because he’s doing some pretty good processing there….
Report Post »And then there’s this brilliant line….”At one point you can see the guy raising his hands to show the cop he‘s going to start cooperating and at that point the cop decides to smash this guy’s head on the concrete”. So he’s saying the cop should have been watching the video while he was subduing the guy? Umm…Ok.
Maybe when the guy raised his hand, the cop should have let him go and given him the handcuffs so he could cuff himself….
Nutthuggers
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:36amI feel the same way you do Drippy. I used to read the articles and do some posts but the site has become tired. It rarely has new articles, and when they do they are replied to by the same five people all the time saying the same thing all the time. The site taking off posts they don’t like is what finally got me to come back way less frequently….. It is a shame.
Report Post »vixenpgh
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:36amGuess this dude never saw Chris Rock’s “How not to get your ass kicked by the police” video!!! It would have helped!! LOL
Report Post »JoeyBagaDonuts
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:34amWhat Police Brutality? Clearly a good cop doing his job without any kind of retaliation towards the drunk guy. Obviously this cop is no ***** and did his job like a pro, his only fault is that he’s white and the minorities hate the white man.
If this drunk was back in Mexico, the cops would have kicked his ass and locked him up with no trial for God knows how long.
Report Post »MONEY_FOR_NOTHING
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:34am@ Drippy Fawcett Your announcement has the tone of someone who thinks they will be missed. Trust me. No one noticed you before, and they won‘t notice when you’re gone. So, do us all a favor and stick to your word. Stay gone.
Report Post »Creeker
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:34amOfficer went home alive. Bad guy went to Lockup. The head to the pavement was known as a “stun” after which compliance was obtained. Arrests are not always pretty and choreographed to the delight of the public eye. Taxpayers should be thrilled they are not burying their tax dollar well-trained employee.
Report Post »temple62
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:30amYou’ll get no sympathy here. Drunks are making the enjoyment of a game impossible, drunks falling out of the stands because they think they can fly and yet these venues love beer profits and wouldn’t dream of banning alcohol from athletic sports events, why heavens no, it would be “un-American! So have another and lets see who you’ll hit driving home today!
Report Post »delhoghe
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:30amSoccer is a sport for Muslims and Roman Catholics. It should be banned in Protestant Christian countries.
Report Post »JoeyBagaDonuts
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:41amSerious drug problem.
Report Post »randy
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:29amYes the Officer did do a great job. People like you ZORRO, are what’s wrong with this country.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:45pmWhat did I say!? I feel the cop is poorly trained. I feel the cop should have used a taser – though I don’t know he had one. If he didn’t have one, he should have used better judgement and not let it get that far. Cops first defense is always “you didn’t see what happened before”. I don’t give a crap what happened before. I’m sorry dude…people, even drunks, should NOT have their head slammed in the concrete by cops.
Report Post »MommaGrizzly
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:26amDrippy – don’t like the site? – stay off it. We need to support our cops. They risk their lives out there every day. He did his job. End of story.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:24amHe‘s lucky this drunk fool didn’t get hurt. Do they not have tasers in California? This idiot cop just got his city sued. Yeah…great job, officer.
Report Post »BILLH8R
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:52amZoro,
You obviously have no idea how the ACLU has been attacking the use of tasers all across the country. I’m not sure about this dept. but even if they had used it you are probably the type of person who would have a gripe about it. You may call this Officer an “Idiot” but until you put on a gun belt and have to take a fighting drunk to jail, confine your weak opinion to school yard scuffles….
Report Post »zorro
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:40pmOh…I see. So because my opinion is not the same as yours, I need to keep it to myself.
You have no idea the type of person I am or what kind of belt I wear or have worn. You sound foolish when you try to figure it out.
Report Post »BILLH8R
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 1:38pmI’m pretty sure the only belt you wear or have worn is one use to hold up your stockings….
Report Post »zorro
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 1:54pmLOL. Thanks for proving to me you’re really just an idiot too stupid to argue your points.
Report Post »BILLH8R
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 2:35pmThought I would throw in some humor. Good luck on your new job of training all those “Idiots” protecting you and yours. Sounds like you’ve received some negative contacts from our law enforcement officers out there. Maybe someone could video tape you doing your job then provide public comment telling you how to do it better. Take care of yourself. Gotta go to work now….
Report Post »Stevsea
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:23amGood for the cop. He did his job and did it well.
Report Post »joelack55
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 2:35pmWhen A Cop does his job WELL ……No one is injured.
Report Post »obama_binpharteen
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:23ambased on what I saw in the video, the officer was justified. Unfortunately a lot of drunks become combatant and usually end up regretting it the next day.
Report Post »lhills
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:20ami don’t see what is controversial here. The officer continued to use force for as long as the suspect was resisting. If you don’t want to be forcibly brought to the ground, you probably shouldn’t resist arrest. Last time I checked, being arrested wasn’t an optional thing. The officer was just doing his job.
Report Post »rienheart
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:20amDrippy Fawcett, your funny. You know you’ll be back. You can’t get enough.
Report Post »teachermitch32
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:37amJust what I was thinking. “I mean it this time….I really, really mean it….I’m telling you, I mean it”.
Now I’m concerned. What will we do without him/ her?
Report Post »code green
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:18amVery lagit stun move by the officer slamming the cheek into the pavement . Resist and get hurt. So what is the big deal? The drunk is lucky the officer didn’t really rip him a new one.
Report Post »LimoDavid
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:17amDoes NOT look like police brutality. Just don’t resist! If you are not doing anything wrong everything will be cool, is all. That is not to say there are not some thug cops, But a majority, a VAST majority of cops are doing their jobs (like the cop in the video). And I truly appreciate what they do. Those of you who HATE cops, or think ALL cops are thugs or vermin or punks or etc., it is funny how you change your mind when YOU need the cops.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:30amI don’t “hate” cops. Personally, I love how we videotape everything to catch the “bad cops” and what we find is that there are a lot of good cops out there. That said, I can’t stand it when people tell me “when YOU need cops, blah, blah, blah.” I pay taxes. Lots of them. I expect cops to do their job, period. I don’t have to like them or “appreciate” what they do because they’re not doing me a favor. They’re getting paid for it. I don’t do my employer a “favor” by doing my job.
Report Post »marine249
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:11pmyou fok with da man things go upside down for ya
Report Post »rienheart
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:16amAlcohol, great stuff, especially if you can’t hold it.
Report Post »BILLH8R
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:15amFine work Officer!
Report Post »Roxtar1968
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:13amThat’s why the call it resisting arrest. Don‘t resist and your face won’t get slammed into the concrete. Drunk people can be so stupid!
Report Post »thriceconcussed
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 7:40pmAmericans need to “resist” a bit more. Control is coming from every angle, and everyone is so happy to be controlled. We are fascist, not free, and anyone who thinks otherwise should actually read books describing the rise of fascism in Italy and Germany.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:11amthe drunk offender is okay, no injuries. no problem. and should have been tasered.
Report Post »Smitty1969
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:16pmYes! “Few Police can RESTRAIN like that” if the camera crew wasn’t distracting him he would have remembered his own strength when he thew “soccer fan’s” chest to the deck (the head following):(
Better than a power freak with a Tazer.
Report Post »hersey10
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:10amHe was clearly resisting , the ACLU will of course see the opposite . Very nice rear naked choke attempt btw .
Report Post »thriceconcussed
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 7:36pmThis is why I despise both Democrats and Republicans, utter brainwashing. The State says the agents of law are just “doing what is necessary”, and you all accept it like sheep. Why was there no police force until 1854? I would assume because the founders didn’t want the government to hold that much power over the citizenry. You’ll change your tune when it effects you.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 1:40am@Thriceconcussed
What do you propose we do, just let everybody operate on the “honor system”? See how that works out in homicide-ridden NYC, Chicago, St. Louis, Detroit, and L.A.
I would say you’ve been hit on the head a few too many times…
Report Post »xoke
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:09amUmmmm, what is the problem?
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:15amIf a police officer says to submit…you submit.
Report Post »xoke
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:19am@Drippy…
Ok, sorry my one liner wasn’t clever enough for you. That said, sometimes you don’t need a four paragraph dissertation to explain your feelings on a particular story. Being the king of brevity that you think I am…I will again, be breif. Don’t let the door…you know the rest.
Report Post »Revere1
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:20amThe criminal is always right, according to liberals: http://www.battlefield315.com/2011/02/liberal-view-of-crime-punishment.html Police have to walk on eggshells, but people can break as many laws as they like and it’s never their fault.
Report Post »My Hero-Allen West-click my name
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:20amWhat was he to do. Ask him to just roll over? Dam this is what is so wrong with this country. When you break the law they they have the right to use force if you resist. We have all become so PC concerned we have forgotten the policemen trying to do a job that is under paid and not appreciated by most. While there are some police ( in WIS to name a few who may not always have your welfare in heart most do). With the freedom we have in American we have to balance it with common sense and when necessary bust a head or two.
Also when you deal with a drunk they cannot be reasoned with so that has to be taken into account as well. I see nothing wrong with this video.
Report Post »lovenfl3
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:20amDo the crime………. The ploice have a tough job. I guess the guy should have put his hands behind his back as he was told. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=619wI12Ky20
Report Post »pappy
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:24amI can see it already… The officer(s) are on administrative leave, charges & law suit pending. The aclu wanting to know why they didn’t give the drunken offender a hug, and on & on & on….
Report Post »randy
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:26amHEY Drippy Fawcett,
No one is asking you to stay here. So….. get lost and don’t let the door hit you in the butt on the way out. Problem solved.
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:26amObvious intent to subdue, but not injure. Cop got heated enough to get the job done, but wasn’t trying to get cheap shots in, or freebees after the fact. I’d trust that guy with keeping MY neighborhood safe.
Report Post »Phantom2487
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:35am@Drippy Fawcett
King of one liners: You’re as annoying as your name…
Report Post »7.62AirMailComeGetIt
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:43amListen to A L E X JONES on INFOWARS .com For REAL INFORMATION where do you think Beck gets his talking points YUP thats RIGHT Alex J ones Show
Report Post »ManThong
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:44am@ Drippy
AMF
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:46amNotice how the Policeman’s reflective vest is nearly torn from his body? I wonder how that happened if this was just a “peace loving” (hispanic) soccer fanatic? I also believe if someone is involved in a high speed chase that the Police helicopters are armed with offensive measures…..real easy math here; The Police say STOP =You STOP!
Report Post »sdd757
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:50amSee, this is what I can’t stand about my fellow conservatives. You guy will side with the police at all cost. We already have more law enforcement officers per-capita than Nazi Germany. Just think about that when government decides to implement a security force and realizes that you’re a law breaker (ie owning guns, owning gold, possessing certain political material etc.).
Now for the matter at hand. I hate thugs. Even the ones wearing police uniforms. I expect professionalism 100% of the time. NOT 99.9999%. ALL THE TIME, even in the face of difficulty. If you can’t live up to it get a different job. I don‘t care how hard it is dealing with the ’low life’ law breakers is. No one is making the Police take the jobs, they do it because they like it.
We could stand to cut 66% of them loss so they can go on unemployment. I challenge you to look into how much the police state has grown over the last 10 years. Its staggering.
So my fellow conservatives, keep siding with the police regardless of what crimes they commit…
Report Post »KOCHLEFFEL
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:58amPolice Brutality? I don’t think so. That drunken pig should stay home.
Report Post »My Two Cents
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:59amThe drunk guy in the green shirt should have tapped out like Drippy did.
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:06pmafter over 20 years in law enforcement, i believe this not excessive force or brutality, but rather it reflects excellent training. The officer gave verbal commands, and used several restraining methods taught. The officerwas very professional.
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:08pmNow deport him. Yea right
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:11pmIf the idiot knew English he’d know what to do
Report Post »Bloody Sam
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:11pmI don’t see a single solitary thing the officer did wrong. Although, he should have arrested the moron in the green cap who was looking to interfere. But I suppose he didn’t have a spare set of cuffs with him.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:23pmDrippy Faucet, don’t the the doorknow hit you in the azz on the way out – buh-bye now!
Of course the police are going to be villified, that the idiot was drunk, fighting and throwing stuff at other fans means nothing does it? Lock the idiot up and get over it Mexicans!
Report Post »Tom C
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:24pmHey Drippy…
QQ
Report Post »Bill in Texas
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:25pmBye
Report Post »Bill in Texas
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:27pmGonna miss ya Drippy. God Speed.
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:31pmSome people just don’t get it? What we see here is a uncooperative drunk being subdued, nothing more, nothing less, the police officer did his job!
If we see police brutality we will speak against it, if we don‘t we won’t pure and simple isn’t it – we don’t pick sides just to pick sides, we use our eyes, ears, and BRAINS! Get over yourselves liberals, BTW, you will be getting over yourselves very soon ROFLMAO, very soone! Vote the retreads out of govt at every opportunity – only way we get this country back on track, freakin’ communist ruling elite!
Report Post »Brasil2520
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:32pmIf it was a Mexican with a choke hold on a white man, this video would be a none issue.
Report Post »Now the Hispanic with his “extra” civil rights, will sue for a lottery sized settlement.
As for that annoying DRIPPY you sound like a liberal with diarrhea.
HappyStretchedThin
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:32pmSDD,
Report Post »Silly accusation. We didn’t side “no matter what”, we sided AFTER WATCHING the video.
As for Nazi Germany, a few rather major points of difference you apparently are unable to accept delivery on:
1. Nazis were dealing mostly with generations worth of a culture of sheeple. American cops deal with generations of a culture of individualism and liberty. The very model of America PREDICTS that there will be a large criminal element, and therefore need for a large police contingent, because criminals have more freedom and are dealt with more fairly than anywhere else until proven guilty. Freedom to choose is neutral, most will use that freedom wisely, some will choose wrong and become evil. Police are necessary to prevent harm to innocents and society as much as possible.
2. Nazi police weren’t there to enforce laws, they were there to PREVENT uprisings against unjust laws. The number of officers per capita is an irrelevant statistic because they are not morally equivalent to US law enforcement, whose goal is the protection of innocents, and capture of criminals AFTER they’ve committed crimes. And the laws themselves are just.
3. Nazi police didn’t have any fear of their superiors or the public checking to make sure they were never TOO physical. This officer is now national news, just for doing his job.
America is not a police state. And you’re not a true conservative if you think it is.
Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:32pmoh BTW, it was the palm of his hand making the ugly sound, a common trick used in court to claim police brutality, and yeah he got his head hurt boo hoo, if he’d of cooperated he would not have a migraine right now – he deserved everything he got!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:37pmDRIPPY FAWCETT…………And what is your point?
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:43pmThe slap you hear is his hand. I can’t tell whether or not the guy is faking after the officer pushes his head to the ground.
It looks like the purpose of the choke hold is to wear the guy out so he can cuff him.
This one’s a tough one to call. We see the guy covering his face at the beginning (not enough context), and you can’t tell whether he was faking scared so he could claim brutality, or whether he was actually scared and was honestly protecting his face.
When the guy puts his hands up, then puts them down when he gets turned over, I can’t tell whether he was just playing with the officer, or whether he was trying to release the pressure on his neck for his own safety. It‘s pretty hard to put your hands behind your back when you’re worried about breathing.
I can’t call this one.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:46pm@Drippy Fawcett,
“I’m done with TheBlaze. AND THIS TIME I MEAN IT!!!”
Anybody want a peanut? :D
Report Post »Mike Westfall No Hiding
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:48pmSouthern California is the land of Rodney King…
Report Post »S G Applebee
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 12:49pmA police officer should never touch anyone. If a person resists arrest, the officer should politely let him go. If a person runs away, the officer should politely walk after him asking him nicely to stop, but he should never yell or impolitely chase him. If a person takes off in a car, the police officer should follow him UNTIL he reaches the speed limit, and if the person goes even faster, the officer should just politely wave and say “Have a nice day”.
Report Post »Last but not least, if the person speaks spanish (or any other non-english language) the police officer should just let the person go because if he does not know english, he cannot understand his “Miranda” rights, and the judge will probably throw the case out anyway.
APatriotFirst
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 1:02pmThe guy who took the video is saying alot of stuff that seems to not be on the video. A little video editting being done, maybe?
Report Post »tdtresrch
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 1:04pmCorrect – clean, professional and more restraint than I could have shown with others pressing in on the dangerous work of arresting.
However, look for the video where the cop lied to a man about the basket ball pole.
Report Post »timjohnson1967
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 1:13pmI agree, shut up and sit still.
Report Post »hud
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 1:17pmTruthfully, he should have held the sleep hold for 30 seconds and the guy would have gone to sleep, or stroked out. Either way, he could have administered attitude adjustment procedures to the camera *****, by beating him severly about the head and shoulders.
Report Post »MAULEMALL
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 1:33pmsdd757
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:50am
See, this is what I can’t stand about my fellow conservatives. You guy will side with the police at all cost. We already have more law enforcement officers per-capita than Nazi Germany. Just think about that when government decides to implement a security force and realizes that you’re a law breaker (ie owning guns, owning gold, possessing certain political material etc.).
Now for the matter at hand. I hate thugs. Even the ones wearing police uniforms. I expect professionalism 100% of the time. NOT 99.9999%. ALL THE TIME, even in the face of difficulty. If you can’t live up to it get a different job. I don‘t care how hard it is dealing with the ’low life’ law breakers is. No one is making the Police take the jobs, they do it because they like it.
We could stand to cut 66% of them loss so they can go on unemployment. I challenge you to look into how much the police state has grown over the last 10 years. Its staggering.
So my fellow conservatives, keep siding with the police regardless of what crimes they commit…
Report Post »
bears repeating
Report Post »RJGUSA
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 1:50pmNo question the drunk caused the sound by slapping the ground with his hand (this drunk is not new to breaking the law & is looking to sue someone, i guarantee it)…If those investigating this can’t see that then they need to be reassigned to garbage collection.
Report Post »standunited
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 1:58pmIt was clearly the guys hand that made the slap, the face could not make that slapping sound on concrete, the hand easily does. This is deffinitely not police brutality, i wish they’d deal with all disorderly people like this, maybe they‘d learn to listen to the police and we’d all be better off.
Report Post »joelack55
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 2:34pmSure YOU should alway submit!!! otherwise things could get nasty. Don’t ever offend the cops.
Report Post »Now that i’ve been sarcastic……… The Cops have Guns , Tasers , clubs. We have nothing. If we are being abused we have to take it , we can’t defend ourselves from the Cops. That would be assault.
Svt4Him
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 3:05pmIt’s amazing how a story like this can be related to liberals. Man, give it a rest, otherwise you start to sound wacky.
The cop did his job. I don’t know if he was a progressive cop, a liberal cop or a conservative cop, there is no indicaiton in the video of either.
Report Post »Brasil2520
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 3:16pmIn the “good old days” us white’s would have shot that P.O.S in the face, end of story !!!!!!!!!.
Report Post »t00nces2
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 4:00pmOne should always write, “DO NOT ARGUE WITH POLICE OFFICERS” on the glass bottom of your beer stein.
Report Post »Firefight
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 4:45pm@HappyStretchedThin “America is not a police state. And you’re not a true conservative if you think it is.” that has got to be one of the most foolish statements I have heard in a long time. typical neo-con reminiscent of the start of the war in Iraq “you‘re not a true patriot if you don’t support bush. you’re unamerican”.
so you are okay with the TSA doing what they do and rolling out their programs into the street right? because they are. you are okay with cameras on every corner? X-ray vans? the Police can stop you at any point and search your vehicle w/o cause in the name of a “check point”. we have “free speech zones” now. your phone can be tapped, your home searched, you every movement can be tacked, all electronic purchases monitored and it is all done wi/o a warrant etc etc the proof that we are becoming more and more of a police state everyday is there. you just have to stop drinking the kool-aid and open your eyes.
I must not be a conservative though because I want the government out of my business if I am not hurting anyone. I almost forgot the new definition of conservative has nothing to do with the size and power of govt but ONLY fewer taxes. so I guess that’s me typical Maximum freedom – minimal government Liberal right?
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 6:43pmFirefight,
Report Post »Thank you for the important challenge. Please excuse me for summarily dismissing principled argument with a label. I was reacting to a NAZI comparison, I was NOT trying to alienate observers like you who rightly note that increased surveillance and police powers are making it easier for govt to make abuses. The govt DOES have the correct mandate to maintain law and order, and freedom from terrorism. It needs the tools to accomplish this part of its constitutional mission. These tools should only ever be used in the ways the Constitution allows for their use. As technology makes more intrusive tools available, laws defining constitutional use need to be carefully crafted so as not to cross the line of denying people liberties and privacies on the basis of mere accusation.
On the other hand, both you and SSD still haven’t answered my central point. You think the existence of surveillance technology, and debatably constitutional use of checkpoints, the Patriot Act, etc. mean that we live in a police state.
I still assert that you have no historical, or definitional leg to stand on in applying that term to the US.
And it isn’t even close.
The cops here aren’t in the business of using those tools to make innocent people afraid to challenge the authority of the President. They’re out to catch criminals, not prevent debate. Journalists have free reign here, and there’s vast movements of challengers with total freedom: birthers, truthers, etc. None of these groups would be allowed to get the slightest purchase in Nazi Germany or Stalinist USSR. Those were police states. Where a wife would rather agree with a false accusation when her jealous neighbor denounced her husband, than face the prospect of her entire family going to a gulag.
You may hold some conservative beliefs, you and SSD. But a conservative, by definition, believes that this country is founded on freedom and is free today because the Constitution limits the powers of the federal govt to the bare minimum. You don’t need to agree with all the points, (and I said NOTHING about Bush!) but in general, true conservatives are grateful for the police because conservatives recognize that policing IS a legitimate role of government, and is NOT often abused.
Should police be held accountable? Of course! Even to a higher standard! But should we be suspicious of cops just because they have authority? That leads to anarchic lunacy, when taken to its logical conclusion, NOT conservatism.
Up to you to decide which you really are.
Eliasim
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 7:55pmWho knows what‘s wrong because we don’t know what happened at the very beginning. He did smack is head on the ground pretty hard indeed. But this is for sure: if the general population loses it moral direction so do the police since they come from the population, and then the entire system becomes self destructive.
Report Post »Firefight
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 8:20pmHappyStretchedThin
Report Post »I understand your point in comparison to nazi germany as I said “we are becoming more of a police state everyday” do I think we are comparable to nazi germany? Not yet. but the potential is there and the threat is growing. Honestly I had no idea the extent until I started researching the presidential orders (Very scary stuff if you would like I can post some). My defense of SSD came because of the “litmus test” you gave. We can debate all day about what a conservative is or isn’t. But the fact is we are much more of a police state now than ten years ago and a huge reason for that was someone who called himself a conservative (BTW I know you didn’t bring up Bush but I thought it was a similar insulting accusation). It is my opinion the Founders would be appalled at the extent of intrusion and interference into our lives. I am a strict constitutionalist and I feel that the threat from terrorism is no excuse to strip us of our rights. It is also my opinion that it has been because of our deviation from the constitution that has brought much of our problems on us. “Free Trade With All, Entangling Alliances With None”.
I can‘t really make a determination on the police in the video because it doesn’t show enough. It looks as though it may have been excessive because he was pretty well controlled, but as I said you don’t see the beginning of the altercation.
back to your central point. “I still assert that you have no historical, or definitional leg to stand on in applying that term to the US.”
here is one example (I can give you more).
the MIAC report :you’re a suspected domestic terrorist if you:
Supported third-party candidates like
Ron Paul (Republican, Constitution Party)
Chuck Baldwin (Constitution Party)
Bob Barr (Libertarian)
Are an “anti-abortion activist”
Believe the United States, Mexico and Canada will someday form a North American Union
This is described as a “conspiracy theory” – It’s a new one to me
Possess the
Gadsden “Don’t Tread on Me” flag
Widely available anti-income tax film “America: Freedom to Fascism”
arx
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 9:56pmSTD 757 what are you talking about? What would you have the officer do in that situation? He did what he had to do in order to gain control of the situation. Every second he spent rolling around on the floor is another opportunity for the perp to gain the upper hand and possible obtain the officer’s or his own hidden weapon. My only criticism was that the other officer should have cuffed his perp quicker in order to help out.
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 10:06pmFirefight:
Report Post »I find I’m disagreeing with you less and less. Glad your challenge made me refine my ideas.
You are ABSOLUTELY correct about the DIRECTION the US is headed. And the MAIC report, you’re quite right, was conceived in utterly Anti-American idiocy. We don’t profile by politics here.
On the other hand, the speed with which the MAIC director was reassigned, the media having a frenzy, and public apologies coming forward about it suggests there’s still hope for America, despite new technologies.
Please excuse my “not a conservative” comments, although I think you’d most properly line up with Libertarianism, because they obviously don’t apply to a Constitutionalist like yourself.
I think we need watchdogs and people who aren’t afraid to be called conspiracy nuts–that’s healthy skepticism–but I also think we need healthy respect for the law, and its enforcers, without which we would be an anarchic democracy, rather than the great, freedom-loving republic that we are.
Peace out, bro.
Anti_Spock
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 10:22pmI can‘t believe what I’m reading from you people! Wake up!
XOKE… “Ummmm, what is the problem?”
PAJAMASH… “If a police officer says to submit…you submit.”
KOCHLEFFEL… “Police Brutality? I don’t think so. That drunken pig should stay home.”
ISHKA4ME… “after over 20 years in law enforcement, i believe this not excessive force or brutality, but rather it reflects excellent training”
Just to list a few… you guys had better wake up to YOUR reality when the police come after you. Slamming anyones head against the concrete is uncalled for. So the guy is drunk… doesn’t mean you risk giving him brain damage.
SDD757 is about the only one here with an ounce of common sense. This is POLICE ABUSE cut and dry. This officer doen’t need a suspension, he needs to be fired.
————————————————————————————–
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
Martin Niemöller
Report Post »*************************
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 10:50pmAnd the alleged crime was … what? Hope that police thugs gets fire for acting like a thug … or we all are going to fight this guy and those like him. What say YOU, Glenn? Are you even watching?
[Gabby on rooftop sees sheriff riding into town]
Report Post »GABBY JOHNSON: “Hey! The sheriff’s a nig …” [Church bell chimes]
HARRIET JOHNSON: “What did he say?”
Dr. SAM JOHNSON: “He said the sheriff’s near.”
GABBY JOHNSON: “No, gone blame-it dang blammit! The sheriff is a nig …” [Church bell chimes]
-Blazing Saddles
Firefight
Posted on March 31, 2011 at 11:05pmHappyStretchedThin
Report Post »That is what it is all about and what made our nation great. The ability to have civil debate and an honest exchange of ideas. I do align more with libertarians (than republicans), which I do consider conservative because of fiscal issues and being advocates for smaller govt. And I agree all is not lost there is still time to restore our Republic. God willing.
Anti_Spock
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 1:16am*************************… We need to stop these abusive acts of police whose job is to serve and protect. I don’t care what the situation was… those men weren’t armed… just drunk doing what drunks do. The problem in this country is we have sold out our neighbor so we can feel safe. As long as ‘I’m not the drunk” who is getting the crap beat out of him thats okay. It’s stupid.
Report Post »If we don’t wise up and hold our police 100% accountable 100% of the time then these types of incidents will repeat themselves over and over again. Now granted this 49 second clip doesn’t show everything. And I’m sure the drunk acted aggressively before the clip rolled. But we have other ways to subdue drunks that do not involve a WWF match.
The tragedy is the same elected officials that have installed a multi-layer law enforcement arm (its HUGE… FBI, US Marshals, DHS, ATF, State Patrols, Border Agents, National Guard, County Law, Local Law, blah blah blah) all connected, all fully armed with full auto weapons, those same elected officials are the same ones who want to disarm citizens. Welcome to the collective.
dr_funk
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 1:35amBeing drunk isn’t an excuse for assaulting a police officer.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 1:37amAs far as I can tell, this officer did exactly what he was supposed to when faced with having to put a resisting suspect in custody by himself.
Shame on the bystanders for not helping him!
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 1:42amAlso, a face doesn’t make that kind of a slap on concrete. That’s most definitely his hand. He was fine, as the article very clearly stated.
Not police brutality, its suspect stupidity.
Report Post »hud
Posted on April 1, 2011 at 11:06amTO Anti Spock You are delusional. This isn’t a brown shirt army invading Jews homes, this is public criminality being dealt with.
Report Post »