‘Buy a Gun’ & ‘Keep Your Powder Dry’: Economists Warn of Looming ‘Economic 9/11′
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Left to Right: Harry Dent, Robert Prechte, & Gerald Celente
Despite recent reports that the U.S. economy is “recovering” and that there are signs of economic growth, some analysts are less than thrilled with what they see in the near future. In fact, they’re downright scared.
Harry Dent, author of “The Great Crash Ahead,” believes that the global debt bubble is going to burst and when it does, there will be a massive market crash. It should be noted that this is a revision of his earlier prediction that a crash would hit in 2012. He says he modified his forecast because the global central banks have been pumping the markets with so much money, stocks have been given a temporary boost. But he warns that as soon as the short-lived boost comes to an end, the crash will be hard.
“This will be a repeat of 2008-09, only bigger, when it finally hits,” Dent told USA Today.
Watch a discussion of this topic from Monday night’s broadcast of “Real News From The Blaze” by clicking here.
Gerald Celente, a market analyst at the Trends Research Institute, believes Americans should brace themselves for what he calls an “economic 9/11.” He blames policymakers for their inability to solve the world’s financial and economic woes, according to the USA Today report.
Once the meltdown hits, he says, it will lead to social upheaval, anti-government sentiment, a devalued U.S. dollar, and skyrocketing unemployment.
“Celente won‘t rule out another financial panic that could spark enough fear to cause a run on the nation’s banks by depositors,” USA Today reports. “That risk could cause the government to invoke ‘economic martial law’ and call a ‘bank holiday’ and close banks as it did during the Great Depression.”
“We see some kind of threat of that magnitude,” Celente said in a recent interview.
Robert Prechter, author of “Conquer the Crash,” is being described as “still bearish.” Because he believes there is a frightening amount of similarities between today’s economy and the one preceding the Great Depression, he warns that America should brace for “1930s-style deflation.”
“Prechter predicts that the major U.S. stock indexes, such as the Dow Jones industrials and Standard & Poor’s 500, will plunge below their bear market lows hit in March 2009 during the last financial crisis,” USA Today reports. “The brief recovery will fail as it did in the 1930s, he says.”
What does this mean? Well, if Prechter is correct, stocks stand to lose more than half of their value.
“The economic recovery has been weak, so the next downturn should generate bad news in a big way,” Prechter said in an e-mail interview. “For the third time in a dozen years, the stock market is in a very bearish position.”
But what about all that “positive” economic news we keep hearing about?
Take, for example, recent reports that the markets are rebounding. Many economists have noted that the markets are finally approaching pre-2008 levels.
“Tech stocks in the Nasdaq composite are trading at levels last seen in 2000. Data on auto sales, manufacturing and consumer confidence have been firming. Job creation is also on the rise. The unemployment rate dipped to 8.3% in January, its lowest level in three years,” USA Today argues.
Furthermore, economists and market analysts are updating their forecasts and predicting a hopeful and bright economic future. Some have even bet that the eurozone will stabilize.
So why are Prechter, Celente, and Dent so worried?
“Dent says the combination of aging Baby Boomers exiting their big spending years and a shift toward debt reduction and austerity around the world will cause the economy to suffer another severe leg down, making it more difficult for the government and Federal Reserve to avert a new meltdown,” USA Today reports.
Celente, on the other hand, who has also been warning of economic disaster for years, believes that the national debt and “income inequality” has put the U.S. in a very dangerous place.
He warns that bank runs, brought about by social unrest, will wreak sever economic havoc. He also warns that the current economic crisis could very easily transform into real violence. He believes the markets will be turned upside down by not only the eurozone crisis but also by an increase in oil prices due to the standoff between Iran and the West.
“2012 is when many of the long-simmering socioeconomic and political trends that we have been forecasting and tracking will climax,” Celente wrote in his “Top 12 Trends 2012” newsletter.
“When money stops flowing to the man on the street, blood starts flowing in the street,” he added in an interview.
So, although some are economists are advising investors to jump back into the markets, these three analysts are warning that a different strategy is needed.
“Get out of the way,” Dent advises.
His solution? Buy short-term U.S. Treasury bills and the U.S. dollar, which will benefit from safe-haven cash flows. Forget stocks; they’ll fall in value.
Celente advises investors to buy gold – it won’t lose its purchasing power when the dollar tanks. Also, he says, buy a gun to protect yourself from marauders in search of food and money. He also advises people to plan a getaway to places with “more stable finances and governments.”
Prechter’s advice? Simple: keep your powder dry and buy when the economy starts to get out of hand.
“When things get really scary, as in early 2009, I get bullish,” he said.
(H/T: The Daily Mail)
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Comments (382)
Marsh626
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 5:06amWhile preparing for disasters is obviously important, it’s important not to go off into crazyville. Also, economists predict collapses all the time. It’s nothing new. Eventually they‘ll be right and then everyone pretends that they’re an economic prophet.
Report Post »raderby
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 5:39amyour age? I am 61. trust me, the stuff going on is no where near normal. wipe the sleep out of your eyes.
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:28amMarsh626, you’re exactly right. I can predict a dry summer for years and when we finally have one, am I a weather prophet? of course not. This is the game Beck plays with the gullible goober segment of our society to keep them sending in their dollars.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55751455@N02/6910751527/in/photostream/
Report Post »Twinspeedr
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:42amRaderby,
Report Post »You missed the point. The point was; don’t try to prepare for the “Mad Max” scenario. People that are just coming to grips with the thought of things being “really not normal” could find themselves doing just that. Prepare, but don’t go off the deep end.
Economist
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:44am@Marsh626,
How familiar are you with the effects of our monetary policy? Maybe if you look at this video you will understand the crises that people are starting to understand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc3sKwwAaCU
These should help you as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu_VqX6J93k
Not just blowing smoke!! This is real and coming soon. I have been in gold and silver since 2002 predicted the crashes of the nasdaq and housing, so I do understand the markets.
One more essential video:
http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:05amFTA: “When money stops flowing to the man on the street, blood starts flowing in the street.”
Thanks for the conditioning.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:09amI have done thousands of hours of research, and as an analyst, look for the details. I can tell you also, I have lived this exact scenario in another country, and it happened, the country crashed, and civil war broke out. Don‘t be fooled by the ’head in the sand’ folks, they know not what they are talking about. We are going to crash hard, and there will be blood in the streets, as incredible as it may sound, it will happen. Mock me, doubt me, tell me to go jump on it all you want, but when the crash happens, and you’re not prepared, you won’t be laughing then.
Report Post »Delta D-5-3
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:18amWOW……looks like the Media Matters folks are paying us a visit today with some of these comments. But you know what, those of us who pay attention, study, and who have a mind of our own see what’s happening. And what’s coming. Those who don‘t listen to the MSM’s BS about the “big improvement” in our economic outlook and situation and have done our own homework, KNOW WHAT’S COMIMG. So, go ahead. Keep spreading the lies. You only give away who you are………….
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:27amThings are goona get really crazy soon !!!! Be ready
Report Post »bhohater
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:30amWhy do people buy insurance? To protect themselves against disasters, that’s why. What’s to lose by stocking up on food, water, medical supplies, guns and ammo etc. just in case it happens? Economic collapse or not you won’t be wasting your money. Makes sense to me to be prepared for the unexpected.
Report Post »michael48
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:38ammarsh/mouse…then don’t do anything…but IF the poop hits… at 64 this is the most disorganized and ill-prepared American populaus I have ever witnessed…mother 85 and lived through the depression…at least people then, had a chance. Now a majority of this country haven‘t a clue what planet they’re on…if I’m wrong I will live…if I’m correct , I and my family will survive…
Report Post »Windwalker
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:46amOf the three, Celente, Dent & Prichter, Celente has been calling correct predictions 90-95% of the time for about 30 years. His calls are not always timed EXACTLY, but his opinions and predictions have been to close to many times to ignore or disgard.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:57ambeck is a rodeo clown… what do rodeo clowns do? distract the bull from the person riding the bull. we are the bull.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:29amIts “another” great opportunity to usher in the New World Order!
Dr. Henry Kissinger from floor of Stock Market 2008.
I added ANOTHER! But we all know they’ve been working steadily to get all of their followers high and dry, the 08 collapse was just a money grab with a 2nd round brewing for all the blood suckers who didn’t get enough the last time.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:32amWyoming Is Preparing To Protect Its Residents
Wyoming is working on a Dooms Day Law that I wish my State would begin working on. My GPS navigator is already programmed for the shortest route to Wyoming and I have enough gas to get there. My only fear is that Federal Troops will open fire on me to prevent from from seeking safety in Wyoming. Our Greatest FEAR is our own Government.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:33amMarha, Marsha, Marshaaaa!
I‘m a wee lad at age 48 and I can tell ya we’ve never seen the likes of all the combination of things on a global scale. The whole world is in an uproar and it will get much worse simply because people are losing what love they have and inequity abounds everywhere. The more the cycle continues the more out of control it gets…people stop trusting anyone, people start pulling back, people bury their heads even further and are indifferent to what is happening all around them and think it what happen to them…their somehow special.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:40amWhat To Do When Your Neighbors Don’t Care And Roll Their Eyes At The Subject
I am prepared but my neighbors will attack me when they hear my generators and smell my food, What to do when the Government outlaws food and fuel hording. Some of us are preparing for what we pray will never come and what we have will be torn from our hands. I do not know if I can start shooting all of my neighbors who begin attacking my home for my food and fuel.
Report Post »Steven63
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:43amWith all due respect, you are not keeping up on what is going on behind the scenes. Massive, MASSIVE problems under the pretty looking veneer. And the veneer isn’t all that pretty. I implore you to get educated about it. You can start by visiting Zero Hedge – these guys who post here have their pulse on the reality of the markets here, and around the world. The outlook is beyond unbelievable, it’s downright apocolyptic.
Report Post »swalt
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:53amEzekiel 33:
1 The word of the LORD came to me: 2 “Son of man, speak to your people and say to them: ‘When I bring the sword against a land, and the people of the land choose one of their men and make him their watchman, 3 and he sees the sword coming against the land and blows the trumpet to warn the people, 4 then if anyone hears the trumpet but does not heed the warning and the sword comes and takes their life, their blood will be on their own head. 5 Since they heard the sound of the trumpet but did not heed the warning, their blood will be on their own head. If they had heeded the warning, they would have saved themselves. 6 But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes someone’s life, that person’s life will be taken because of their sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for their blood.’
Now that you have read this passage from the Bible, you are officially a Watchman. To not pass this information on is done at your own peril.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:20pmI’ve been chosen as a watchman, not that I am any special person, believe me, I am just a regular Joe here. I have warned my community to prepare, and have been rediculed, laughed at and called a kook, right-wing extremist, the list goes on. I have given my warning to family, and the same response. So my conscience is clear, the blood will be on their heads, not mine. I am now just sitting and waiting for the collapse, but NO ONE knows what the timing will be, but mark my words it will be soon. Under every rock there is a major problem, so now it is just a matter of timing, but I have no crystal ball to give you that info. My gut tells me, between this spring and next spring, we will in full tilt anarchy. I will help those that have helped themselves, and the infirm, all others will be my enemy, and woe be to my enemies!
Get right with the Lord God Almighty, and only through Jesus Christ can you achieve that end.
God Bless America and her people who have morality and a conscience and believe in Jesus Christ. To all of the liberal amoebas, communists, islamo-fascists, anarchits – your days are numbered.
Report Post »Mike N
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:48pm.
@ MARSH626
Pay closer attention to all that goes on around you. Have we not recently seen a radical increase in burglaries, counterfeiting, suicides, armed robberies, etc?
It’s one thing to observe the bubble stretch, but not break. However, when so many are clearly strained beyond their elasticity, and cross moral lines which they had long respected, is it not a sign that the crisis is more real this time around?
Don’t declare the sky to be falling, but don’t be caught unprepared either.
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shogun459
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:53pmI feel sorry for anyone that listens to you an those like you.
You will be one of the first to demand that those of us that stored food share it with you.
MARSH626 You are a Grasshopper.
News Flash the World doesn’t owe you a living,
and neither do we.
The Ants
Report Post »geotico
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:11pmWhy do you think the gold price and silver price keep rising? People in the know have been buying this stuff for over a decade. If you want to keep track of the gold price http://www.goldprice.info silver prices http://www.silverprices.info.
It’s a good idea to have some around!!
Report Post »ThePostman
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:20pmAll I can say is, those ignoring Raderby do so at their own risk. I’ve spun around the sun about 50 times now, been investing since before 1987, and these days there is most certainly something much more wrong, on a deeper level. We ain’t getting out of this unscathed. So far, we’ve been unscathed. There may be a pop up, but calamity is coming far sooner than any of us wish it were.
Report Post »LauraPZ
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:22pm@Raderby- wise words. I’m not quite as old as you, but I am informed on what is going-on economically in the world.
Report Post »The coming crash, will be much worse, than the 1929-39 “Great Depression”. Then- 90% of our population lived in rural areas, and were fairly self-sufficient. Now- 90% are urban, and panic if the electricity fails.
Food, medicines, essential supplies, guns & ammo- and friends of a like-mind, will help you survive what’s ahead. And- I prefer Silver, to Gold. Far easier to “make change” for.
nichevo
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:51pmMan you nailed in anonymouse. Well done! Beck has made fear-mongering for cash an artform. So many stupid sheep….so little time….
Report Post »jzs
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:04pmAnother fraud taking your money by predicting the end of civilization. Used to be that these guy stood on a street corner and were laughed at. Now they’re selling books to those suckers born every minute. Not to mention the TV and am radio.
Now, to learn more, look up “end of the world” on youtube and find other experts like this guy, who isn’t actually an economist of course, except self-proclaimed. When it comes to predicting the end of the world, everybody is an expert.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:24pmHey Gibbs and Anonymous,
Once again your “dumbness” is amazing. Lets see…if I buy some silver, extra food and guns what harm have I done? Lets break it down:
1) I started collecting canned food over the last few years. If I am wrong I have extra food around to eat or give to charity. Final outcome: Tax write off/money saved/convenience of not shopping for a while.
2) Bought Silver over time and doubled and quadrupled my investment. Hmmm…pretty much a no brainer there.
3) Ammo and Guns: Of the guns I have bought over the last few years they ALL have increased in value and demand. I also have ammo that has increased in price and demand. Outcome: Investment $$$
4) Have a generator and some extra fuel. Ummm, still no negatives yet.
So let me see. Everything I have “invested” in over the past 4 years while wearing my “tin foil” hat has increased in value and convenience. If I am wrong, I have food, guns worth more money, ammo to have fun shooting and a generator/fuel that will get good use for my band when we play out. So your point is “only buy one roll of toilet paper at a time, because stocking up on toilet paper is crazy and stupid”. The point you dopes aren‘t getting is I’ll use all this stuff regardless. Oh, and if the SHTF, I‘ll have it and you won’t. Who’s stupid? I’ll leave you with this: “better to have and not need than need and not have”. Happy scavenging!!!
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:34pmMarsh626,
Report Post »I agree with Raderby, you are a FOOL who believe the media. I have been prepared for over 5 years BECAUSE I READ MY BIBLE and it tells you to always be prepared. If you are truly listening to God and following HIM, He is preparing His own. I guess either you are not listening, or you are not one of His. I wouldn’t know, but without God, you WILL BE SORRY.
Skrewedretiree
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:43pm@Raderby- True! The young refuse to listen. I am 60, retired, and am already seeing the collapse slowly happening. Even with a cost-of-living-allowance (COLA) on my EARNED pension, it is immediately taken back with massive increases in healthcare premiums (So much for the “Affordable Healthcare Act of 2010- “Obamacare”), plus since I turned 60, my life insurance premiums just went up. Add to that the skyrocketing cost of heating oil, gasoline and food and you don’t need to be a Prepper to be extremely nervous.
Another thing: Our property rights are slipping away. Ever since the SCOTUS stuck us with the Kelo Decision, there is a massive land grab by municipalities for development; taxes stay high regardess of the constant DEVALUATION of our homes and land!
There are very few jobs for all the masses of NEA indoctrinated Socialists coming out of the public schools, and we are 16 Trillion in debt, so where will the money come from to pay today’s retirees, much less any others, and let’s not forget the Welfare State.
So….What is there NOT to be alarmed at?
Report Post »kingssman
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:49pmA general sound rule of advice that will prep anyone anywhere.
Get a FOID card, it’s easier than obtaining a drivers license. Get one now before the rules become so strict that you probably can’t get one.
Buy a gun, it doesn’t have to be an AK47, glock, Uzi, or any military grade. A cheap .22cal is better than having nothing. Bearing arms is your right. Pick one up now while some are as cheap as $20, before a government taxes and regulates them so much that a .22cal rabbit rifle will cost more than a mortgage payment.
Get a good book on basics. In any event you don’t have internet, it’s a good idea to have a handyman book, a cooking guide, an outdoors manual, anything. I personally have an Amish guide to living. It contains blueprints, designs, everything needed for basic life from building tools, making homemade soap, cooking with cast iron, animal cleaning, and basic indoor plumbing. I also have alongside wiring 101 and mechanics bare essentials. Knowledge is great, but it does you no good if you can’t access it.
Keep $100 in currency hidden in a secure place. Always need good ole paper money when the plastic doesn’t work for some reason and no place will take checks.
Last…. a first aid kit and a batteryless flashlight. Why a home doesn’t have one just for modern life is beyond me. Keep the wind up flashlight and firstaid kit in the same place. Everyone needs a flashlight, and those wind up ones are just handy if the power ever goes out
Report Post »sarahf
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:57pmRADERBY is exactly right.
Report Post »For those of us who did not just fall off the turnip truck, what’s going on now is unbelievable.
I‘m pushing 70 and I’ve never experienced anything like this mess.
The very fact that Obama got elected and still remains relatively popular is a big indicator of how stupid the masses now are.
Back in 1980, we still had a fairly educated populace who were able to figure out quickly what a disaster Jimmy Carter was. That populace has diminished as it has died off or landed in nursing homes.
The populace today is stupid and ill informed and very pleased with its bread (pizza) and circuses (TV).
umreb78
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:58pmMarsh….WOW, you are living dangerously. As a CPA / economist, I can assure you that I have done tons of research in this arena. IN fact, I’ve wriiten a forty page whitepaper on the monetary policy of the Fed and the fiscal policy of Congress since 2001. This paper was written to attempt to simplify macro-economics which is an extremely complex field. Given the staunchness of your post above, I’m sure it is unlikely that you would benefit from the education that the paper can afford a non-economist. Suffice it to say, though, that you are putting yourself and your famly in grave danger. The US Dollar is on life support and the hospital is about out of power to run the respirator. The FED has covered the systemic disaster for as long as it has been possible, but they are out of bullets. Read something about the Weimar Republic…then collect as many one dollar bills as you can find….You will need them to start fires to heat your home. Alternatively, you might consider one other thing. WAKE THE HELL UP AND EDUCATE YOURSELF! If you don’t, it will SUCK to be you….and don’t plan on coming to people who learned and prepared for assistance…it will be every man and woman for themselves.
Report Post »ronin_6
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 3:30pmYou are correct. I am 43 and have been listenting to this doomsayer crud since I can remember. You will grow old “preparing” for this. My grandfather, who passed at 103 in 1997 used to laugh at folks like this. He said he had been hearing the same sort of stories since he could remember. Wake up folks, you are being used and abused. Investors can’t make money unless there is market volatility. Keeping you in a sense of constant panic is the best way to maximize returns. People like this gentleman have tapped into a psychological need and have made a lot of money off your anxiety.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 3:57pm@ronin_6 and all the other gullible fools, don’t prepare, we don’t care what you do. Glenn Beck has not made a penny from me…you fools assume so much. Your complacency will be your undoing, and I could care less what happens to you, but rest assured these are NOT normal times, and our debt is $177 TRILLION – go to usdebtclock.org…if you tell me this amount of debt is normal, you are off your rocker, and uneducated. Fools will not prepare, so it is basically a waste of time to try and convince these amoebas to do anything…soon enough they will be proven wrong, tick tick tick.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 3:57pmThey have been working towards this for a long time. There will be a period of a type of anarchy, but then the U.N. will work with the POTUS to convince us that everyones system has failed and our only hope is to accept the New World Economic Order and the new money that will be distributed at a percentage of the worthless money you have. Get ready.
“We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is purely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries. “
- David Rockefeller, June 1991— The Trilateral Commission Meeting
This is why I say a POTUS that actually believes in the Constitution is imperative at this point and time.
Ron Paul 2012!
Report Post »robert
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 4:13pmjzs
“Another fraud taking your money by predicting the end of civilization. ”
These three men are tops in their field, especially Gerald Celente who forecast the crash of 08, plus many other accurate forecasts over the years. http://www.trendsresearch.com
Not listed here, but also another economist is Peter Schiff who also forecast the 08 financial debacle.
In addition to those not listed here, there’s an absolute dirth of experts who are forecasting EXACTLY the same.
The reason you denigrate them and their assessments is because you‘re a homosexual who trolls sites like this with some brainless idea that you’re going to help bring society into a more leftist idea of a rainbow utopia and that way homosexuals will be accepted as part of your conglomeration of flakes, oddballs and misfits.
Because of your delusions, you hate it when there is talk of societal break up, because that would mean your fantasy world would never come about.
US debt to GDP is at 103%. When that ratio gets to 100% that signals economic collapse at the slightest hiccup. This nation is rapidly accelerating toward 120%, which will put it in the same league as Spain, Portugal and Ireland, all three of which will be requiring bailouts pretty soon just like Greece. Greece, incidentally, has only kicked the can down the road a bit. They’ll be in the same boat next year. Anybody who doesn’t realize economic armageddon is nearly upon us is too stupid for his own good.
Lock and load,
Report Post »jzs
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 5:31pmRobert, it’s fascinating that you bring up the subject of homosexuality in a completely unrelated context. Psychologists say that often homophobia is the mind’s way of fighting against the very impulses you claim to hate. That seems to be happening in your case. Do you often bring up the topic of homosexuality for no apparent reason whatsoever, or is this something that just started?
When I say you need to lubricate and polish your rifle for the coming apocalypse, what does that make you think about? Really?
Report Post »1casawizard
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 5:37pmIt’s the end of the world as we know it.
Report Post »BenzinVasser
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 5:40pmPlain and simple “teamarchesen”….I plan on eating my neighbors…LOL!..Really just joking…I think.
Report Post »Cousin_of_Marx
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 6:17pm@raderby
Report Post »Your age is 61? Well, I’m 107, and believe me, this is nothing.
phunkejay
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 6:52pmSurvival of the fittest. I say let all hell break loose and let those who aren’t prepared live (or die) with the consequences of their decision. That way we thin the herd of the weakest among us.
Report Post »The Eradicator
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:06pmJZS,
Dolt.
~Fin
Report Post »welloddyfriggindah
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:19pmAs our national debt continues to increase over the gross domestic product over the next 10 years…110%, 120%, 130%?, with Washington whistling in the dark – I must say you have a lot more faith in the monster that is our government than I do. They haven’t done anything right to repair this yet, and it may be too late. If you’re wrong, you’re screwed…me not so much.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:30pmIf you lived long enough, you were blessed to live thru the Carter years of misery index…double digit inflation, double digit interest rates for cars and mortgage…
But now you have a much larger audience and a global market…the net certainly adds to the chaos and feeds fear as the MSMs are not telling the truth…it’s a cauldron of goats head soup.
Defiantly going to be different than the Carter years.
Report Post »robert
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:36pmjzs
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 5:31pm
“Robert, it’s fascinating that you bring up the subject of homosexuality in a completely unrelated context. ”
It isn’t an unrelated context. What you obviously are explains a lot of why you say things that obviously has an underlyinbg motive, because they’re deceitful, dishonest and they’re misinformed and really, just plain ignorant. But there’s no mistaking your uynderlying purposes and motivations.
I find it facinating that leftist freaks are always with the opinion they’re fooling somebody.
Based in homosexuality you say? Nonsense. How about based in keen perception?
You never denied I had you figured right, though, did you?
Report Post »jzs
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:09pmrobert says homosexuals are “…deceitful, dishonest and they’re misinformed and really, just plain ignorant.” That’s a new one. Do you mean in addition to all the other bad things you imagine about them? I notice you couldn’t deny your fantasies, if not your outright behavior, are homosexual in nature.
Okay, when I say “Obama” what’s the first thing that comes to mind. “Homosexual” by any chance?
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:11pmI don’t know Harry Dent and Robert Prechte, but Gerald Celente is a brilliant man who can be trusted and is anti-establishment.
He could tell you about the bankruptcy (holiday banking act) of 1933.
That was when you were pledged to a PRIVATE BANK for the debt of another man’s incompetence or corruption, both of which, are unacceptable and unconscionable.
The Blaze is to be held accountable for posting an article about the depression, derived from USA Today.
The Rothschilds bought Reuters in the 1800′s and the Associated Press thereafter.
They have been spinning revisionist history and resorting to outright lies, since the beginning.
The USA Today is another irreputable MSM POS.
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges12
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Report Post »Operators are standing by!
shogun459
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:17pm@TEAMARCHESON
If you can’t get away to a safer place,
Report Post »yes you can, you must, your family depends on it.
robert
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:45pmjzs
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:09pm
“robert says homosexuals are “…deceitful, dishonest and they’re misinformed and really, just plain ignorant.” That’s a new one.”
That’s old hat, you little maggot. Who are you trying to deceive now? You’ve heard all that before…..and more I’m sure.
You despise Christians, conservatives, and people who bathe regularly, and those who believe in traditional American values, especially, because they are so far removed from the perverted world of your choice. You’re filled to the brim with unparalleled hate for them.
Your hatred is so great you troll the web sites like this one looking for people to bash who do not fit into your disgusting leftist ideology. Yes, its bashing you like most of all, because surely you‘re not so dense as to believe you’re going to convert someone to your way of thinking.
Go to a shrink. Get cured. You don’t have to stay sick. You’ve got a choice.
As the article attests to, financial armegeddon IS near, and, when it arrives, your ideology is going to be a target.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:13pmrobert, I haven’t said anything hateful to you, although most of your remarks toward me have been. Got to give credit to your imagination though. Got me all figured out huh?
robert, I’m here to help. In that vein, I want to point out an error of yours. You said, “In addition to those not listed here, there’s an absolute dirth of experts who are forecasting EXACTLY the same.“ The word ”dearth” means a shortage or lack. So your statement says the opposite of what you intended. The word you were searching for is “plethora.”
Who but me is going to teach you new words to make you sound smart? Frankly, your regular vocabulary leaves a lot to be desired, consisting mostly of words related to homosexuality.
Report Post »JimCDew
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:22pm@unix – “. . . when the crash happens, and you’re not prepared, you won’t be laughing then.”
You forgot to add, ‘You’ll be shot when you come for my stuff.’
Report Post »JimCDew
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:30pm@JZS – If I see you on my lawn after the collapse I’ll hit your apricot with a .227 round and watch you drop like a rag doll.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:55pmJimCDew, okay, but is “apricot” some sort of, you know, secret word for a private part? Anyway when we meet the code phrase I’ll use is, “Hi, I’m Glenn Beck.” That way you‘ll know it’s me.
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Report Post »EndTheFedNOW
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:25pmGerald Celente is on AJ show almost every week. He knows about the white show boys (as he calls em) I call them the NWO vampire soul sucking eliet bankers.
Report Post »readytostand
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:27pm@Marsh – You act as if preparing is , a bantered up for profit only scheme ! Save up necessities folks ! Food ,proteins, water , med supplies ! Medical supplies , sutures ,antibiotics, for some med supplies here is a hint (veterinary farm fleet supply stores ) will have many sterile med supplies that can be used for human use also ! For anyone who thinks preparing is foolish , you may literally have to eat your words , because thats all you will have ! What would cause the need for preparation you ask ?? Natural disasters yes! How about this scenario , TEAMSTERS UNIONS shut down all trucking , it would cause panic, and food shelves would be stripped within hours ! It would go into a panic within one day ! Prepare don”t be a FOOL !
Report Post »robert
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 12:33amjzs
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:13pm
“robert, I haven’t said anything hateful to you, although most of your remarks toward me have been.”
And after writing that you continued on to make snide, hateful remarks and make reference to a misspoken word.
Your posts are usually always based in hate when you comment originally, and when you respond to somebody’s comment. Your reason for coming on this site is based in hatred.
You come on here specifically to denigrate and belittle, because you want to spew your hatred. You’re full of hatred for conservatives, those who embrace traditional American values, but especially Christians, because they refuse to embrace perversions.
And you’re loathing of Christianity extends to Catholics, as you indicated when you wrote: “If Santorum is elected, he’ll be getting his marching orders from the Pope. The US will become a Catholic dictatorship.”
That remark is steeped in hate for Catholics and Christianity in general.
And you despise anybody who legitimately warns of a looming disaster like Gerald Celente, a very highly respected figure in the field of trends forecasts, because he reports things you know will bring your radical leftist agenda to a screeching halt.
“Another fraud taking your money by predicting the end of civilization. Used to be that these guy stood on a street corner and were laughed at. Now they’re selling books to those suckers born every minute. ”
You’re disgusting.
Report Post »fldammy
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:15am@anonymouse You have it wrong, no one is saying not to purchase things, quiet the opposite. They are saying to buy and invest in things, just different things like gold/silver, food, weapons, water, supplies and a safe place away from the urban death traps. That sounds like a whole lot of spending to me.
Report Post »Hollywood
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:34pmThis TIME, it will be different. The world’s economies are 600 Trillion in debt,with a Global GDP of 60 Trillion. The numbers ARE what they are. There is NO way out,but economic collapse, of many countries currencies,and economies. Kicking the can, extend and pretend,are coming to an end. The printing of more EUROs,U.S.$,Yen, ,Pounds etc, is having less and less effect,and just ruining the value of the currencies. There is a day of reckoning about to happen,and ANYONE, who follows the markets, without a bias, can see it happening. I do,and can.
Report Post »toomuchgovt
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 2:12pmI prepare for the worst and pray for a solution from all of us (not the government). My hubby is older and is always saying he saw worse in the sixties and during the “Carter years”. I was just a kid, but I do remember the Carter years. My answer during those years, the U.S.A was not 16 Trillion (and counting) in debt, the people had a fundamental belief in God and worked not took for a living.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on March 2, 2012 at 9:50pmWhat is Operation EFAD? From 20,000 to number 2 in less than 24 hours.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 4:47amPs. You might want to protect what you have. Gold is golden, and thew bottom is going to fall out. Obama and his cronies may well not be able to stop it before the November elections, but he has a back up if the bottom caves, and he’s pushing street rioting as well. he thinks he has all bases covered. Surprise Bammy, there is One, who is a bit bigger than you, little “o”.
Report Post »Teabunny
Posted on April 24, 2012 at 10:07am@kibs
Matthew 24:38-42
King James Version (KJV)
38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
Acts1:11
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
The rapture is a literal event. He goes to prepare a place…if it were not so he would not have told us. God is not a man so he cannot lie…question: Do you believe he is the son of God? he who has seen him, HAS seen the Father.
Report Post »louise
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 4:25am~~We have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God and God abides in him.
By this, love is perfected with us, that we may have confidence int he day of judgement; because as He is, so also are we in this world.
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love.
We love because He first loved us.
If someone says,” I love God, ” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen.
Whatever is born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world —- our faith.
Report Post »Your security, safety, home, liberty is found in God. All of history has led to this for one reason: That you would choose Life.
Come into the Ark
John 3:16
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:12amLouise !!!! The words you have written are facts, with love, for those that have ears. Thank You
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:02amWas he loving the Russian Christians that were massacred by the 10s of millions? What about the 80 million chinese that were murdered by Mao? Or the asians in Cambodia slaughtered in the killing fields? Were these people all unworthy of God’s love?
Are you really so ignorant to think that God is going to somehow pick out a few of his favorites and save you because he is love? Really now? lol
I don’t want to sound to harsh because I use to believe this myself but their have literally been Billions of people slaughtered upon this earth.. all who thought that God loved them.
Were they all placed in this Ark of yours? Is that we’re suppose to do is just lay back and get ready to be taken away in the Ark?
This very dangerous and unsound reasoning is being spread across this country by such ignorant Pastors.. Completely opposite of the type of real men and godly Pastors that founded this great Nation..
I literally have loved ones telling me there’s nothing we can do.. but get ready for the Rapture.. Jesus will save us..
Whatever. You people better wake the hell up and begin to prepare and oppose the tyranny coming upon this land.
And it would‘t hurt to understand where it’s coming from…
Report Post »AmericanStrega
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:44amLouise;
God helps those who help themselves.
AmericanStrega
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:00amyou don’t know how the people are going to be raptured… these innocent people slaughtered… well, that action could have been their rapture… you don‘t know HOW it’s going to happen… you just think people will magically disappear? God uses nature and everything in it to carry out these actions… we are very much a part of nature…
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:08amit’s comes from a select group of askenazis who have been known about since biblical times.
Rev 2:9 “I know thy works, and tribulation and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, (and are not), but are the synagogue of Satan.”
the love of money and women have destroyed more nations that you will ever know because you CHOOSE to ignore history… Wilson was blackmailed and sold our nation out to the banksters for a WOMAN…. pathetic…
Report Post »Anonymouse.
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:23pmGot news for this new crop of evangelicals that have started commenting here: Tech Engineer is correct. God is going to save you people about as much as he saved the Neandertals and all the people who lived on earth for 100+ thousand years before he “showed up” in the Middle East 4000 years ago. If you don’t have farmland, water, hand-pump wells, animals and guns, you might want to look into it. But this total collapse stuff is the same song Garner Ted Armstrong was singing back in the 1970′s. See this link for info in case you weren’t around then. i was: http://www.batteredsheep.com/armstrongism.html
One thing you can do – vote this amateur out of office:
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Report Post »louise
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:58pmTech,
Your loved ones are correct. All that God has already told us will happen. I hope you will not turn your back on the truth. Since God has already fulfilled all prophesy, why do you think that the rest of His prophesy will not be fulfilled? It is going to happen. Just like when a woman starts to have labor pains, she knows what is going to happen.
Do I advocate “just lay back and wait”..? No. In the meantime, we continue on in the faith, Tech. We work, we tell others of the Truth of God. We tell others the way back Home ( Through Jesus Christ).
I just know who I can trust and who I do not trust. Don’t place your trust in yourself because you will choose from self and for self every time (This is what Adam did …he chose from self).
Tech, everything you see is passing away. The only thing that will stand is the Word of God.
Report Post »“The grass withers and the flower fades, but the Word of God shall stand forever.”
techengineer11
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:07pmjb.kibs
“the love of money and women have destroyed more nations that you will ever know because you CHOOSE to ignore history… Wilson was blackmailed and sold our nation out to the banksters for a WOMAN…. pathetic…”
You know he repented of that in his last days or it may have even been on his death bed.
Louise (btw, that‘s my mom’s name..) I studied the scriptures pretty much non stop for 20 years both old and new testaments. I can‘t deny that many things I’ve read seem to be unfolding at this time; however, after having learned the way of the Jew in recent years and reading the OT with that in mind, I’m like Rick Santorum in that it literally makes me want to throw up.
I don‘t have all the answers and don’t pretend to know but I will place my trust in a loving God who obviously rewards faith but that will not be the God of the OT.
My issue is with people who are just sitting back all nonchantly saying what will be will be and God’s in control.. I can‘t tell you the number of grown men I’ve spoken to that have that notion… and it’s being preached to them. It’s wrong. Glad you clarified that was not what you were advocating.
best wishes.
Report Post »watchmanwatch
Posted on March 4, 2012 at 3:27pmI totally agree FATHER or GOD is love and those that love the LORD will have no fear as they are protected by GOD. This is just the mortal body; but GOD also tells us of those who do not love HIM that HE shall pour out HIS wrath on them. HE gave us his word and also a brain or grey matter to have ears to hear and eyes to see; but many do not choose that path. I do believe that many have died in the name of loving the LORD and many more shall; but hey… remember this is just the beginning and our time here is to prove whether we choose to love GOD or follow the ways of the world or satan??? Your free will…. make a choice and stick with it.
No one but FATHER knows the day or the hour…. I choose to be a watchman and pay attention to the signs and seasons… That is my choice; Any of you have the same choice; read his word; not listen to a preacher; do your own homework, learn Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic and see what it says; there is nothing new under the sun… This happened before and will happen again; even our forefathers of the new world knew if you give single men enough power they will abuse it and they have…
But I did not mean to preach here; but did not see some full truths of FATHER’s word hear; so I decided to throw in my 3 cents worth inflation being what it is; or would that be 102 cents by now the way our government is printing money; oh did you know gasoline is the same price it was in the 1940′s… 2 silver dimes went as far back then as it does now???
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 4:20amForget about money–its useless and the government will take whatever you have anyway.
Concentrate on having a deep relationship with God, food, guns and ammo, and a roof over your head. Get out of debt as much as possible. Sell all your junk. Everything in this world is going to rot and rust anyway. I never thought I would see this country turn corrupt and I always thought the good guys were up in the big house…no more. We are no better than any of the other third world countries…just we have more cunning ways of killing people and our government is sneaky and tries to act “civilized” in their tyranny. In the end what well have is the fruits that last forever…..
Matthew 6:19-20
“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.”
Be prepared to share food, shelter, and the word of God with your neighbors and especially Christians who may not be prepared…Remember to love one another as that is His greatest commandment. Therefore you will not be ashamed of the way you lead your life…..you WILL be rewarded IF you accept Christ and keep His commandments.
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 4:40amIf man survives this mess,,,it will be in the history books of our children’s children.
Report Post »4xeverything
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 6:19amI plan on being here to write some of those books. I hope enough people are prepared as well.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:01amGet out of debt? Really? I believe you should borrow as much money as you can now and buy gold and silver. When the dollar collapses the price of gold and silver will skyrocket. Then you can pay of that measly debt easily. A gold ring will be able to buy a lot of food when hyperinflation hits. A million dollars wont even buy a loaf of bread though…
Report Post »The Golden rule will be in place…He who has gold makes the rules. Chaos will the champion of the day for a while and big cities will burn when the welfare State isnt paid, after that we can restore the Republic.
There will be many a fool die if you arent prepared or they try to steal my food. I will help those who I deem to be a good person and a help to society, I will have mercy on the weak and infirmed. I will give no quarter to a thief.
Yea…you probably wont survive if you havent thought this far…
Economist
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:34amIf you are really interested in what is going to happen. Please watch this video, it will explain a lot. This is what keeps Bernanke up at night.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2550156453790090544#
Report Post »BSdetector
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:36am“His solution? Buy short-term U.S. Treasury bills and the U.S. dollar” Lolwut?
Report Post »Food, Weapons, Water, Energy(Propane, Wood, etc) Gold, Silver, and ability to use, cook, etc without electricity. These are the things you need.
Every family member able and responsible enough to shoot a gun should have their “own” gun that they are familiar with.
AndiAndiAndi
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:42amI agree. I’m going over to the dry pack to pack up some more dried food. Then later this week I’m going up to Honeyville to buy some of their dried goods. Honeyville.com Try it. They ship for $5.00. They have all kinds of dried foods. Buy your basics. Wheat, a wheat grinder, dried milk, dried eggs, dried butter, dried honey, flour and sugar. Order some dried meat. Get a freezer and get meat and butter to put in it. Yeast, freeze it. Buy canned things that you like and be sure to rotate it. We need to share in times of need. And times of need are coming. Heck, I think they are here.
Report Post »rot_soldier
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:55am@Baddoggy – You seriously need to rethink what you just said. Sure a gold ring “could” buy lots of food…. right now. When the SHTF your gold will because worthless except to those that want to take it from you. Trust me, read Selco’s blog, shtfschool.com, and you’ll understand what I am talking about. As soon as you pay someone in gold you’ll put a target on your back. You probably won’t last 24 hrs after that.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:06am@Soldier…If you think I havent planned way ahead of that you dont know me LOL
Report Post »PPMStudios
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:10am@ BADDOGGY
Actually, all that gold and silver will only buy what someone is willing to trade it for. A troy ounce of gold today is worth roughly $1800. When all collapses and I’m the one with the food, that ounce of gold may only get you a sandwich.
Stock your pantry with food, water, and ammunition….
Report Post »rot_soldier
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:11amWell, either way, check out Selco‘s blog if you haven’t already. It’s a real eye opener. Good luck to you and your preps.
Report Post »BSdetector
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:49amYup, the people stocking JUST gold/silver better be willing to part with it for food/guns/propane/anti biotics/etc.
Report Post »That being said, if you have savings, physical gold/silver is likely the safest place for them. Don’t dump ALL your dollars either, you should have enough greenbacks on hand for a few months of fixed expenses such as mortgage payments, etc. There will likely still be people willing to accept them as payment in the first months as well.
mils
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:50am@@@@….ANDIANDIANDI
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:42am
I agree. I’m going over to the dry pack to pack up some more dried food.
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agree totally and will probably see you there!!!…try “red feather ” butter/cheese if you can.., requires no freezer…..really good and lasts
there are going to be some classes at honeyville in the next couple of weeks you might want to check into.
we’re doing some more dry packing in a couple of weeks..
mils
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:46amAndiAndiAndi
Report Post »Posted on February 28, 2012 at 7:42am
I agree. I’m going over to the dry pack to pack up some more dried food.
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Agreed!…Honeyville is a good idea.. they have some classes coming up next month you might check into… We will probably see you there…AND THE DRY PACKING!!.. good idea…we have appt next month to do some more…Try the “red feather” butter..good taste and vacuum packed. We went for the basics for family for a couple of years.., that took us about 2 years. because we paid only cash for things….then expanded what we put away. now into meats.. we don’t tell everyone what we do…what we have…where it is…if we are truly lucky, we will not need to depend upon our governement, or FEMA>>>>in the case of any emergency.. ***************************************************************
If you wantt to listen to Obama, GOOD, do it….if you want to believe someone is going to sweep in and take you in their arms and tell you not to be afraid…GOOD believe in that….US?…we’re preparing for reality. God gave us a gift in reasoning and at least trying to protect ourselves. We may not have it all covered..but, we’re trying and we sincerely believe in the secular adage…”God helps those that help themselves.”…and i don’t mean help yourself to my things….
Katydidnt
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 4:19amhe is missing the thing that will make stocks drop. Next year if nothing is done, taxes on dividends will reach 50%. Think just rich people own stocks. Nope they are a big source of income for retirees. They will sell those stocks to move into something else that might provide some income. People and pension funds have been buying those stocks and reinvesting the dividends. These are huge blue chip stocks. In order to make money people will switch from income stocks to growth stocks which are riskier. This will decimate the DOW and hurt retirees and pension funds.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:00amIMHO, pensioners and retirees deserve to be hurt. They are the ones who fell hook, line, and sinker for the fallacy of the soc. sec. Ponzi scheme and they are the ones who weren’t smart enough to notice that their “trust fund” was really just another source of taxpayer debt and gov’t spending. What’s more, they are the ones who through either their ignorance or planning have turned my generation into their slaves. Retirees deserve to take a financial hit of some kind. I just hope that they take it willingly and that they pay off all of the debts that their generation incurred on the backs of future generation. Greatest generation my @55. While ending the holocaust was certainly a good deed, it was shadowed by eugenics being practiced at home and the continual loss of individual freedoms. Their legacy is clear to me and it doesn’t match the PBS approved story.
Report Post »rot_soldier
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:13am@SGTB – Wow, I see someone has been doing some similar thinking. I’m not a hateful kind of guy, but it really irritates me when I see these pensioners complaining about what they caused. You made your bed now lie in it.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:51am@ Rot, my grandfather retired a long time ago on his USPS retirement along with the retirement he received from working for the USPS union as a lobbyist. Not to mention that he is also receiving soc. sec. checks. He has been a life-long Democrat and he cannot for the life of him understand how his children and grandchildren could ever think that social security and welfare are evil systems. Of course, he is also a Catholic and has admitted that he does not believe in any basic human rights. He cannot even see that it is a human right to be able to defend one’s self.
While I love my family, I know that they need to reap the oats that they have sown and if they ever do so and repent, I might then help them. But from all actions thus far, the older generations are not going to even acknowledge their mistakes or trespasses whichever the case may be.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:01am@Sgt B
From one SGT to another, I am one of those terrible people you are talking about.
Do you work for an employer? If you do, you surely know that Social Security is an involuntary tax that the employee and the employer must pay. You are stuck paying it. No choice. That makes it not an entitlement. It makes it a pension plan I and my employers paid into. It isn’t government money. I have been paying into Social Security since 1965. I have been paying into Medicare since 1972 which is another forced tax I resent paying.
What really sucks about Social Secuity, is that the government couldn’t keep their hands off of it. Since they keep draining the Social Security pool for any reason, our politicians on both sides scare old people with the threat of losing Social Security. The ones who get scared are those that grew up in the Depression and/or have no other savings or pensions to supplement retirement income.
I personally have never liked Social Security. I always felt I could do a better job managing my money. My 401k and investment accounts are reflective of that belief.
Frankly, I am getting tired of people calling Social Security an entitlement. It is not. It is not welfare, unemployment insurance or any other Government give away. It is a forced tax paid.
Shake the crap out of your brain bucket. We are just as much a victim of the government as you are.
Report Post »arjundawg
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:11pm@dismayedvet
Report Post »I think the difference here is between generations. As part of the younger generation, I don’t expect to receive anything that gov is forcing me to contribute to. I just wish I would have enjoyed the time your generation had through the Reagan Bush and Clinton years and the opportunity to have braced for the future like you did. I’m not trying to be a victim, like you, but reality is reality. Your generation (generally speaking) slept under the covers of great opportunity while our country was being destroyed. Most baby boomers I know are ignorant when it comes to politics, but when it comes as a threat to their SS or medicare they become experts and point their finger haphazzardly at any reality or threat. Many in the younger generation want to opt out and accept the losses made by the bad decision your gen made. But if that comes as a threat to your entitlement, even though it’s not our responsibility, your gen won’t hear tell of it.
I think we just got to all work together, accept reality and try to fix the mess without all the blaming.
JonSigMan
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:16pm@ Dismayed Veteran
First, Thank you for your Service Sgt! Second, you are correct, but only to the point that you do not receive one dime more than you paid into SS…plus reasonable interest. I have paid in as well, but I don’t want one more red cent than what I contributed, and….I don‘ t have any doubt that I won’t see one cent of what I contributed, as I am one generation behind you. That I believe is the fundamental difference. Medicare part A is paid into, but the others are “entitlements”…. Bottom line is that someone screwed up the math, and NO ONE is willing to admit it, much less correct it in THEIR lifetime. Sad but True! God help us all! He is all we will have left besides each other when it finally hits the wall.
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:33pm@SGBT
Report Post »Just how dare you.The greatest generation didn’t single handily cause this problem.In case you haven’t figured it out, politicans did then what they do now.LIE CHEAT AND STEAL.My father paid for his own retirement.He also had to pay into ss.Never mind the fact he would never recieve a dime from his own contributions.Many of them were in this boat.
Want to blame someone look to the real problem.World war two never really ended.The same b’s that created the diasters then do so now.Its a mind set.They found a opening in the sixties and went full tilt boogie from there on out.What you seem to think is freedom is actually a veneer.Wars facade.Wake up cupcake and smell the coffee beans.Do you not know that some of the greatest generation and their families are and have been hunted like dogs since the start of ww2?Why do you think that is?Its because they are the absolute enemy of those who have been in power for decades.The same ones bringing you the economic collapse and other oldies but goodies, like genocide, concentration camps exc.The same mind set that prevailed then, still prevails.They are just waiting for the economic crash to institute the latter ones.Unlike you I was raised by a member of the greatest generation who had active combat skills as well as countless other skills.My parents passed them down to me.Something I will always be eternally grateful for.Instead of biYYing about them, maybe you ought to humble yourself to ask one to pass the skills onto you.
happ77
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:52pmSGT, Social Security, which you rightly call a ponzi scheme was started in the 30′s. Most of the
Report Post »people “who fell for it’ are dead. Life expectancy was 61 for a male and you couldn’t collect until
you were 65. My Grandfather paid in for 35yrs and collected 2 checks before he died. My father paid in until he was 70, he spent all of wwII in the navy, and he got only a few checks. The crooks in DC
have had alot to do with the fact SS is broke. Clinton and Gingrich like to brag they balenced the budget but they robbed SS to do it. I have 3 sons and a daughter and they understand they’ll never
get a dime. It needs to be phased out starting now. Raise the age, means test, and get rid of it.
A question SS is broke, right, then why reduce the payroll tax ?? There where no other taxes
to screw with.
ABO & libs
babylonvi
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 1:40pmTwo trillion have been stolen from the SS account to pay for wars and balance Clinton’s budget(Gingrich is also a thief as he now joyously revels in his balanced budget but says nothing of how they did it). They have also stolen a trillion from Medicare including the half trillion removed to help pay for Obamacare. Get rid of Obamacare and it helps keep Medicare solvent for years. Note hoe Obamacare only hits payers and payments, while increasing the actual costs for healthcare delivery.
Report Post »tomloy
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 4:04amThats why I live out in the country, far from any big city. Let the collapse happen!
Report Post »Tickdog
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:21amAgree!
Report Post »silentwatcher
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 3:54amwe are about to be culled.
Report Post »funwithguitars
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:56amSold all 401k’s, emptied savings, sold un-needed items etc… and bought silver about the time glenn moved to fox. Best thing I ever did financially. Thanks, Glenn…..Stock up on beans, bullets, band-aids..
Report Post »AmericanStrega
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:51amYou forgot the BEER!
Report Post »jsDway
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:26amI have told my kids for years that we are living in a Mad Max world – and that is just because of the way people looked – tatoos, piercings, dressing like trash, acting like fools! When GOD is pushed away from a nation – EVIL will take His place!
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 3:26am…
Report Post »jsDway… Amen!!
ADNIL
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 5:13amYou NAILED it! The natural word abhors a vacuum. So does the spiritual.
Report Post »sillyfreshness
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:11amSince I moved my 401k back into stocks today, look for a crash in the next few days. That’s my kind of luck. I had it in a stable fund, but decided to change it since the market has been rising steadily up. Now I’m reading more doomsday news stories like this one. Hopefully the crash won‘t happen for a couple of months and I’ll move my stuff back before it happens. Celente saying “protect yourself from marauders” he is predicting a Mad Max style of living where it’s every man for himself. I know Celente got burned from Corzine’s MF Global. If that really happens like Celente thinks, life is going to really suck. It will be like going back 100 years in standard of living. So you have people saying to prepare for economic doomsday and then you have our government saying you’re a terrorist if you do prepare. You can’t win. Next our government will have spies at Costco and Sams Club watching who’s buying food in bulk. After all, there’s nothing more dangerous than a person running around with a pizza in their hand. Reminds me of stories of life in the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. We’ve finally gotten to that point.
Report Post »KangarooJack
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:16amI’m sorry. If you vote and/or attend a parade our gov’t labels you a terrorist…so we are to believe you soaked your future into the market?
Yawn, stretch…NEXT!
Report Post »jnobfan
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:37amWoW silly youv’e got balls!!!
Report Post »I just can’t see myself in the stock market anymore.
Good luck !!.
Me. All in cash (MMKTS) spread around several credit unions.
Couple of grand in silver coins and ammo at the house. Building the house on the acreage I bought just in case. Party hard for me dude!
I’m seriously nervous about a reset. Hope your right.
spikebu
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 3:45amWhy would they need spies? They can just look at your debits. Everything is itemized.
Report Post »jakartaman
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:19amIsrael just told Barry – stick it – there will be no warning given to the US when they attack Iran.
Report Post »That means the attack will be soon – this spring – implications:
war
oil prices way up
economy way down
Espada
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:37am. “It will be like going back 100 years in standard of living. ”
- SILLYFRESHNESS
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Back before integration… I like it !
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:08pmHey..not kidding…any of you in Texas – DFW area…within one tank of gas…about 300-400 miles…and have some acreage set to run too…if you need another family or two to join up with…my bro and i are in the area. it is stuff like this that has made me realize why God impressed on me to move my family from CA to TX this August…we have the SUV’s and trucks to haul stuff…getting the guns and ammo as soon as possible…
Report Post »anybody that needs assistance or looking to join up to make a stand until order is restored…let me know….
Razorhunters
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:10amand now something completely different…
Report Post »Merck Vaccine Chief Brings HIV/AIDS to America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=edikv0zbAlU
martinez012577
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:44amI said this a week ago in a post on these forums. Of course everyone said I was crazy. Look I got involved looking into this stuff because of Glenn Beck. This disaster is coming. There is pretty much no stopping it I am afraid. Look at our current field to run our country.
Obama – he is literally trying to run this country into the ground. Spending increases, more wars, more debt, keeps the fed, less freedom.
Romney – only cuts spending increases, more wars, more debt, keeps the fed, less freedom(NDAA).
Gingrich – less spending cuts in future increases than Romney, more wars, more debt, keeps the fed, he is a globalist.
Santorum – in between Romney and Gingrich on future spending increases, more wars, more debt, keeps the fed, he is a big government guy.
Paul – cuts 1 trillion dollars from the budget first year, less war, less debt, phases out the fed, restores the Constitution, hated by both sides, hated by the media, labeled a crazy person.
We are screwed. I am ready. I am voting for Ron Paul either way. When the SHTF we will either come out of this a new free United States or we will come out as the new Communist States of America.
Report Post »Unc68
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:50amI remember the day I was listening to Glenn on the radio and he finally was coming around. You see I was one of the people he called crazy for so many years before he started figuring things out. I just hope he catches up with everything else before he keeps calling people crazy for what he has yet to figure out.
Report Post »Economist
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:00amMost Republicans and Democrats will come around to Ron Pauls views eventually. The world is changing around them. It will take time, but when reality sets in and stares you in the face it is harder to avoid.
Most people have no clue that the FED is the real problem. Repubs blame Dems and Dems blame Repubs. Meanwhile virtually no politician (Ron Paul excluded) can understand monetary policy and its implications much less legislate solutions.
Monetary policy is not taught in schools and is a nebulous subject to most (even intelligent) citizens.
Report Post »Diego Roswell
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:07amArticle 5 of the US constitution. It is time to call for a constitutional convention to amend the constitution once and for all. It may be the last hope for a deeply divided nation’s prelude to civil war. Ban the federal reserve and balance the budget.
Report Post »politicaljules
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:43amThe stars at night are big and bright….
Report Post »Deep in the heart of Texas.
KangarooJack
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:18am‘k Pat….lol
Report Post »rot_soldier
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:34amGod Bless Texas! http://www.texaspreparednessgroups.ning.com
Report Post »AmericanStrega
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:57amClap, Clap, Clap, Clap!
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:14pmI wasn’t born here but I got here as soon as I could….CA born and breed…TX resident now…always the heart and mentality of a Southerner…
Report Post »LogicalMetaphysician
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:53pmAll conservatives are welcome in Texas.
Report Post »Liberals should shamble on to California or one of the other lib-tard write-off nests.
VoteRightDammit
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:40amI last saw Dent at a Harvard Business School dinner here in San Diego at which he was the guest speaker – probably sometime around 2005. His premise was simple and difficult t argue with:
The fancy socio-economic models many prognosticators rely on are silly in the same way global warming models are: overly complex; utterly inadequate; myopic. Rather, Dent believed (in 2005) one should look forward simply by seeing the movement of the baby boom population bulge as it ages … and tracking that with products desired by people of that age group. His highlight was about housing:
Dent: When people are newly married, in their 20′s, they want a starter home. The baby boom passed through this stage in the 1980s. When these people reach their 40′s & 50′s (2000) they are near peak earning power, have lots of kids at home, and want large homes. Thus, the popularity of McMansions. When people reach retirement age they will no longer have kids at home, will not be earning as much, will not want the expense and trouble of huge homes. It will become nearly impossible to sell such things as the demand will dry up.”
Dent predicted this would occur in 2012 (it was 7 years ago when he said this). Several weeks ago we saw an article discussing exactly this problem with large homes.
Dent was not only right – he was even correct about the time frame.
So, I tend listen when this guy speaks. Like Beck, he seems pretty good at staying above the trees and seeing the rea
Report Post »VRW Conspirator
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:28pmI have been following what Dent has been talking about for 15 years now. He has always used demographics to model economics not trends in the currency or stock markets. It is simply about the demographics. We currently have the largest generation EVER in US history retiring, they are so big that the next two generations combined are BARELY equal to their size. Combine that with the longer lifespan of Americans and you will soon have more people retired then there are people under the age of 65. Hence, the system goes upside down permanently and never recovers.
Report Post »Dent talked about this happening, when I first heard, in the next 10-15 years, which puts us right in his window of 2010-2015. One of his markers would be a “temporary” drop in the market followed by a HUGE surge..maybe even up to the level of 15-20000 in the DOW, everyone would rush into the market and then the hammer would fall, the bubble would burst, and financial ruin would steamroller people for the next 1 to 2 decades.. YES..10-20 years of DEPRESSION!!
satman40
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:39amYou homes are decreasing in value, your saving is paying no interest…Your money is being devalued…Your wages are shrinking…..and you are being taxed to death..
Government Workers are asking and getting more money, and perks…..
How does it feel to be a slave…spread the wealth…
Report Post »Diego Roswell
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:58amDon’t forget: despite the fact you saved your own money for your entire working life (401K, IRA, etc.) you cannot have access to it without paying a penalty. The federal government has a “one size fits all” mentality about everything. I think we should take our money out of numbered accounts, all of it, because the government will take it when they need it.
Report Post »Mahtoska
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:34amAnd the hills are burnin‘ and the earth is shakin’ and the serpent’s eyes shine, as he wraps around the vine……
Report Post »ken john
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:29amI doubt anyone reading this can just get out to another country.
Report Post »Only a few can afford gold. Yeah, some crap is coming. But this is still the best country in the world.
I wouldn’t leave just yet. Some say buy food for a year. Come on now. If we all need food for a year, I doubt it will be worth living.
KangarooJack
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:19amYeah, but I like to eat. :)
Report Post »KangarooJack
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:22amThe REALLY GOOD NEWS??? We won’t have electricity NOR (gasp TV) so I don’t have to see those PERPETUALLY STARVING kids in Africa DESPITE BILLIONS of $$$$$ and FOOD sent by INTERNATIONAL efforts!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »isobamamadd
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 10:10pmI Think information will work best, Nations are run by Just a few crazy’s. Sadam ruled by an iron fist, but our military took him out. Our economy’s ,wars, Banking system is run by a very few. Surely not capable of Flying a plane, or anything else but ordering fools to do their dirty work, or by doing things in stealth. Such as using bio weapons , Vaccines , and additives in foods and products. Let’s face he Facts we have a world wide ruling elite of only 5000 to 10,000 that rely on patriotism as a tool. that preach that they love their subjects , but don’t.
Report Post »fldammy
Posted on February 29, 2012 at 8:42amProblem is this is going to be a global financial and fiat currency cataclysm. There is no safe place to be as all hell is going to break lose. If you think this is all just organic, I would suggest you think again. This is all been in micro steps for decades, and the money traces back to the global elites like Soros and the other billionaires. What will the result be if the fiat/financial cataclysm be? Massive inflation as central banks flood the market to replace credit lost with bank collapse. 50%-100% inflation, who wouldn’t be begging for a new currency that is stable? You make purchases with your debt card all time, what if there is one that won‘t lose it’s value but it’s not US currency, would you jump on that? Most Americans will, they want to be able to put food on the table for their family, who can afford to be paid in worthless US Dollars? Dollar will be losing value as you drive from the cashing your paycheck to the super Wal-Mart to purchase some food for the next two weeks, who will put up with that?
We are being herded by financial/economic pressure brought on by the world’s elites. They are set to buy up things with pennies, if not fraction of a penny on the dollar during bad times when everything has to be sold or foreclosed. Then they will be in charge of a new world reserve currency. You think Soros will be wiped out or making a killing in a full blown collapse? I know how he loves currency manipulation, so it’s an easy guess on
Report Post »LoriInNC
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:25amAxelPhantom >> I just question his political alliances
Don’t pay so much attention to where Celente presents his views — do you really think that the mainstream media would give him a platform? Listen instead to his message.
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:59amI think there are many here smart enough to realize this oil deal will again begin sucking the economy dry. The effects will start to show up in 12 weeks . So the impact will hit just perfect for the Obama “New age progressive communists” …Only difference I foresee from the last spike. is you already have basically a weak underbelly to the economy to begin with..Reading that consumer credit report that came out ..You just watch in weeks the quick cash out to any stock market gains to pay for that increased fuel…12 weeks…
Report Post »Thevoice
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:05amAnd take note…. no doubt we will be feed all kinds of spin quickly about positive signs to the economy…Just remember go with your gut …If you feel the pinch..multiply that millions of times …that the true strain to the economy…Don’t be the fool left holding a empty bag…
Report Post »Slowman101
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:59amIt does sound scary. Hopefully the chief ****** will not manage to get re-elected. Until the election, keep buying ammo and food!
Report Post »PJL
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:56amGoogle is tracking…moohaha
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:37ami getting 16 to 18 trackers on ghostery.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:38amAnymore with Celente, I don’t listen too much (he is a guest on Russian Television, RT a bit too often) but that doesn‘t mean he’s wrong I just question his political alliances. The other two I don’t know about.
I think most people outside the DC bubble, can feel it coming and have for a while now. For most it is not a question of if but when and from what direction it will come.
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:54amwhere he does his interviews and discussions is trivial…
the man speaks facts.
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:00amis a bad moon arising.
Report Post »LoriInNC
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:23amAxelPhantom >> I just question his political alliances
Do you really think that the “mainstream media” would let him have his say and give him an audience? Don’t pay so much attention to where he is delivering his message but rather focus on what the message might be.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:37amCelente is not the only one who speaks the truth. Never seen Peter Schiff on RT.
The man is playing footsie with PUTIN’S KGB network!!!!
Report Post »Bonnieblue2A
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:57amCelente and hundreds of farmers were robbed of money from their segregated accounts by MF Global under the watch of Obama donor, former Gov. of NJ, and former Goldman Sachs VP Jon Corzine.
Take a good hard look at the toxic derivatives (approx. $55 Trillion) which Merrill Lynch pushed onto the books of Bank of America so their losses would be FDIC insured (read depositor insured).
If you are not serisouly concerned about the pending economic collapse of this country you are not paying attention.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 4:33amBonnie,
I have been preparing for a total economic collapse for 6 years. 2008 was a hiccup of what is coming as far as I am concerned. But having a mother who was born under the control of Communists, a grandfather who was arrested and sent to the gulags and a grand uncle who was killed at Katyn makes me very wary of anyone or anything connected to them, as it should you. Like I said, it doesn’t mean he is wrong in his prognositcations, I just question the motivation of anyone who would trust people like that as worthy of your time.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:30amWith Liberals, such as the Progressives, desiring to return the Standard of Living into a CaveMan Society (Green Peace & Energy)… and an INSANE Dictator in the WH… the 5 G’s sound like good advice!
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:27amBring it on! It’s way past time for this economic zit to pop. Frankly, I’m excited and ready. Oh, and if it doesn’t at least these guys get to sell a few books. Next…
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:35amOh yeah, and buy gold…LOL!!! One of the funniest spots on tv is Bill Devane pushing gold. It’s hilarious!
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:53amLOL now I get your side of why you dont want Paul. You want it to happen. See I have a wife and four young children kids. I want them to have better than I have had. If we ignore the problems and keep with the same track we have been on we are completely screwed.
I will not for my children’s sake,
Vote for another Mcain.
Report Post »Vote party line because people on radio and tv think that is what I should do.
martinez012577
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:53am@carbon
I have been screaming on these forums this is coming. So I am very aware of the coming storm. You say forget Ron Paul, but who of the other 4 address the debt or the spending. Obama and the clones all increase the debt, continue huge government spending, continue endless wars, start new wars, and have no issue with taking away American freedoms for our “own good”.
Its people like you who see the problem that do nothing to try and fix it that are the problem. We have been going down this spiral for years now and the status quo is what is driving us into the ground.
I have no doubt that this country will collapse, its what we come out of on the other side that matters at this point. If we can elect a main not cut from the same cloth as these other four then I think we have a chance. If not, well its going to suck Comrade.
Report Post »KangarooJack
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:25amSocial Unrest…..lol lol
It took New Orleans 3 days THREE DAYS to disolve.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:31amIf only we had some ‘useful idiots’ to hurry things along…
(sarcasm off)
If they are wrong, I eat for free for the next year and a half, oh well.
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 12:58amActually took less than that…1st nite , there were rapes and murders.
The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-taU9d26wT4
spikebu
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 4:02amTrue enough. Seriously missing practice because we can’t afford to use the ammo up and bullets are getting progressively more expensive.
Report Post »Boycott the Media Let the People Decide
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 4:04amWrong, have plenty of bullets and plenty of supplies to reload hundreds of thousands more…..
Report Post »mmabri
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 5:50am@Spikebu – I hear you. It costs a small fortune to use the range regularly these days. But I have found a way to keep your skills without blowing your budget. I go to the range once every other month, and I will only shot at ranges with a tactical course. Target shooting is a waste since your targets will be moving, and shooting back at you. Another thing I do is I go to the archade once per week, and will play those first person shooter games. This really helps with depth perception, and actually helps keep your targeting skills intacted with going to the range less. Also if you do take my suggestions be sure to use different games switching up from week to week so you don’t get used to the game play.
Report Post »rot_soldier
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:02am@Boycott the Media Let the People Decide – Who is going to do the reloading while people are shooting at you. Do not think for a second one man is his family will be able to hold off a starving mob. It’s been proven time and time again in history. Just recently look at Bosnia and even Argentina. If you don’t work as a community then the community will come for you.
Report Post »PPMStudios
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:15am@ SPIKEBU
Actually the price of some ammo is coming down. Especially .223/5.56 X 45mm and .308/7.62 X 51mm because of the wars winding down. The military ammo (Lake city) is abundant and inexpensive right now.
Report Post »rot_soldier
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:27am@mmabri – Call of Duty and BF3 will definitely work. The thing that people need to remember is that having a high reaction time through FPS‘s doesn’t do any good if you are physically incapable of performing the moves necessary to get the job done.
Report Post »rot_soldier
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:31amI can get my 7.62×39 at Academy for $4.65 a box of 20. 7.62×54r i can get 440 rds for $89.
Report Post »PPMStudios
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 8:52am@ ROT_SOLDIER
Is that the Russian stuff (Wolf, Bear, Tula, etc.)?
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 9:43am@RotSoldier
You are dead bang on. Anyone who thinks their home is defensible in depth is a fool. Any typical suburban house will get rolled over within 5 minutes. The walls only give the impression of safety. There are too many windows and doors to cover.
People have to join into some type of trust group where mutual protection and cooperation are the goals. While you might still end up doing an Alamo, at least you are not a “lone wolf” who won’t survive first contact. Anyone who has any military experience knows this is the answer.
Usual advice. stock up on food, water, ammo and medical supplies. When currency, gold and silver stop, a good batering item is cigarettes. Cigarettes are currency since they are discretionary. When they are in short supply, their value increases. I bet a lot of non-smokers will become smokers. I didn’t really smoke until I was on the receiving end of a rocket attack. That’s when I learned cigarettes had value.
Report Post »AxelPhantom
Posted on February 28, 2012 at 1:04pmFor anyone without military experience looking to defend their home may I suggest “Holding YOUR ground” by Joe Nobody. It is different than “Holding THEIR ground” by the same author as that is a fiction book.
Those with military experience will not find it useful, but those uninitiated will find some useful information in it. Good Luck.
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