BYU Hawaii’s First Non-Mormon Student President Credits Mormons for Making Him a Better Muslim
- Posted on April 23, 2012 at 7:32am by
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Mustapha el Akkari (Image Credit: BYU Hawaii)
Mustapha El Akkari recently became the first non-Mormon student body president at Brigham Young University-Hawaii. Interestingly, El Akkari is a Muslim who credits the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints-affiliated school with making him a better Islamic adherent.
In an interview with The Salt Lake Tribune the business management student, who is at the school on a basketball scholarship, highlighted the ways in which LDS has assisted his faith.
El Akkari, who was born in Tripoli, Lebanon, will be a senior next fall. During the interview, he shared his experience living with a Christian family in America. Additionally, he discussed the culture shock he encountered upon attending BYU, specifically when it comes to the honor code and other strict regulations:
“It was a big shock for me. I read articles about it, but I thought it would be like a normal college. It was none of that. It was really straight with an honor code and all — no tea or coffee meant no tea or coffee. I had lived through a half-Jewish, half-Christian family but not Mormons. But I adjusted right away. I fit in. I’m a little unique — the only Arabic speaker or Lebanese on campus — but I love Hawaiians. I never knew any Polynesians before. I called my parents and told them there were islands in the Pacific where people live. They never knew it. I decided I was going to learn from the experience and bring my culture to them.”
When asked to share how his Islamic faith has been impacted by attending a Mormon university, El Akkari provided some intriguing assessments. In sum, BYU has positively impacted and reinforced his faith.
“Before I came to this school, I was not a practicing Muslim. I had never been to a Muslim school,” he explained. “When I came here, I saw all these religious people who were successful and I thought, ‘I want to be like them. I want to base my life on principles, you can’t fail this way.’”
The student reiterated his belief that Islam is “right” and said that the experience of attending the school caused him to read Muslim books and educate himself.
“Now I read the Quran, do my five daily prayers and fast during the month of Ramadan. The Mormons kind of woke me up,” El Akkari explained. “I haven’t felt any discrimination from them, but their attempts to convert me always will be there. They believe their religion is right. I don’t really blame them.”
If he goes back to Lebanon after graduation, he said that he will play basketball, as it is easy and is something that he loves. During the interview, he also made mention of his brother, Mohammad El-Akkari, who The Blaze recently covered for scoring a record-breaking 113 points in a single basketball game.
You can read more of El Akkari’s interview in the Tribune.
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Comments (154)
DogTags
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 1:24pmWhy should we be surprised that a Muslim student feels welcomed at a Mormon university?
Of course Mormonism will reinforce his Islamic faith. Both Islam and Mormonism began with a “prophet” who claimed Christianity was perverted from its original form. Both “prophets” were visited by “angels.” Both claimed the Bible was corrupted, altered and unreliable. Both claimed his holy book was the correct, perfect scriptures. Both claimed to be God’s final prophet. Both were polygamists. Both religions received after-the-fact corrective “revelations” (Islam, in retracting the “Satanic verses” and Mormonism, in retracting polygamy.)
Both the Islam and Mormon religions have those who follow the “original doctrine” of the founding leaders and like these founding leaders, are violent, polygamists, and have revelations justifying their evil actions.
The truth is that Islam and Mormonism come from the same demonic source.
Galatians 1:6-9
Report Post »6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him
Baikonur
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 1:32pm@DogTags
Report Post »Posted on April 23, 2012 at 1:24pm
‘Why should we be surprised that a Muslim student feels welcomed at a Mormon university?’
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We shouldn’t, because it is evident that as a religious minority that was once persecuted, the Mormons do not mistreat others simply because they are of different faith.
4truth2all
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 1:52pmYo Dogtags:
Report Post »I think you laid that out pretty truthfully …you must be one of those hateful fundamentilists that adheres to God’s Word … how shameful…
P8riot
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 2:18pm@Dogtags – I tire of your repeated falsification of my beliefs in my savior, Jesus Christ. AGAIN, here is a direct quote from our Bible Dictionary describing Christ.
“Christ. The anointed (Gk.) or Messiah (Heb.). Jesus, who is called Christ, is the firstborn of the Father in the spirit and the Only Begotten of the Father in the flesh. He is Jehovah, and was foreordained to his great calling in the Grand Councils before the world was. He was born of Mary at Bethlehem, lived a sinless life, and wrought out a perfect atonement for all mankind by the shedding of his blood and his death on the cross. He rose from the grave and brought to pass the bodily resurrection of every living thing and the salvation and exaltation of the faithful.
He is the greatest Being to be born on this earth—the perfect example—and all religious things should be done in his name. He is Lord of lords, King of kings, the Creator, the Savior, the God of the whole earth, the Captain of our salvation, the Bright and Morning Star. He is in all things, above all things, through all things, and round about all things; he is Alpha and Omega, the first and the last; his name is above every name, and is the only name under heaven by which we can be saved.
He will come again in power and glory to dwell on the earth, and will stand as Judge of all mankind at the last day. ”
Do the Muslims believe that? Do you?
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 2:23pm“Both Islam and Mormonism began with a “prophet” who claimed Christianity was perverted from its original form.”
Are you a Catholic?
If not, then your denomination was derived from the concept that Christianity had, in fact, been corrupted (see Martin Luther and John Calvin).
If you are, then your statement must also apply to Lutherans and Presbyterians. Of course, that would not support your hate filled narrative.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 2:27pmDog;
You compared the two pretty well except for the following:
“Both claimed his holy book was the correct, perfect scriptures.” Joseph Smith said the Book of mormon is the ‘most correct” of any book. The account ofthe book itself claims to have possible errors for the natural weakness of man.
“claimed to be God’s final prophet.” Joseph Smith claimed to be the first of latter-day prophets; not the “last” prophet.
“Both religions received after-the-fact corrective “revelations” (Islam, in retracting the “Satanic verses” and Mormonism, in retracting polygamy.)” Banning polygamy was not a ‘corrective revelation’. It was a latter revelation saying it was no longer to be practiced. Both you and I know it was practiced in the Old Testament but not in the New Testament. What we do not know is to why it was no longer practiced; but we do for the Mormons.
“are violent”. Joseph Smith was hardly violent. The only violence he was engaged in was burning down the Expositor. To tell that stoery you need ot understand that the Mormons were in Illinois with the threat of being executed in Missouri, of what happened at Haun’s Mill, and the fact that the LDS community excercised their full legal rights upon the Expositor. Burning it down was perhaps illegal but it would be a civil, not legal criminal matter.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 2:38pm@dogtags –
Similarities between Muslims and Christianity in general:
- There is only one God. He is the Creator and Sustainer of the universe.
- God sent prophets such as Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc.
- People should follow the Ten Commandments.
- Mary, the mother of Jesus, was a virgin; therefore Jesus was born miraculously.
- Jesus Christ is the Messiah and he performed miracles.
- The Old Testament and the New Testament are holy scriptures.
- Satan is evil; therefore, people should not follow Satan.
- An Anti-Christ will appear on Earth before the Day of Judgment.
- Jesus Christ will return by descending from Heaven and will kill the Anti-Christ.
- The Day of Judgment will occur and people will be judged.
- There is hell and paradise.
Here’s my source – http://www.discoveringislam.org/islam_vs_christianity.htm
See? I can cut and paste as well.
Report Post »DogTags
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 3:10pmFor him that has an ear to hear let him hear.
Not everyone who reveres “Jesus Christ” will enter the kingdom of heaven. Mormons and Muslims say good things about someone they call “jesus, but they deny the eternal nature of Jesus Christ. They deny his deity. Mormons don‘t think they deny Jesus’ deity because they believe in many sub-gods. When you ask them if they believe Jesus is God, they will say “Yes, we believe Jesus is god.“ They then say ”See, we’re Christians. We beleive Jesus is god.“ But the while they are having us think they are saying ”Jesus is God“ they are saying ”Jesus is merely a god, who was the first born of God, who was once a man and attained god-status.”
They do not beleive in the real Jesus and are lost in their sins because they believe a false doctrine. What you believe about Jesus matters. There is still time for you to believe in truth and reject the lies. Jesus, the Eternal God, the source of everything is to be worshiped as God, not a god.
Report Post »FreedomPurveyor
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 3:38pm“When you ask them if they believe Jesus is God, they will say ‘Yes, we believe Jesus is god.’ They then say ”See, we’re Christians. We beleive Jesus is god.“ But the while they are having us think they are saying ‘Jesus is God’ they are saying ‘Jesus is merely a god, who was the first born of God, who was once a man and attained god-status.’”
Not even close. That you purport to know anything about LDS teachings is shameful.
Equally as shameful is that you feel the need to mischaracterize and demean the beliefs of others in order to qualify your own.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 3:56pmDogtags;
“Mormons and Muslims say good things about someone they call “jesus, but they deny the eternal nature of Jesus Christ. They deny his deity. ”
Mormons believe Jesus is Alpha and Omega, the Son of God, and the only name under heaven by which man may be saved. This is all taught in the Book of Mormon.
“”Jesus is God“ they are saying ”Jesus is merely a god, who was the first born of God, who was once a man and attained god-status.””
Mormons believe that Jesus always fulfilled the will of the Father and was with the Father in the beginning to create “all things” in heaven and on earth. What they do not believe is fourth century philosophy which says Jesus is co eternal with the Father and are numerically one being of the same substance. The Bible does not say that and therefore not believing it does not make on not a Christian. To say it does would be placing fourth century philosophy as the Christians standard and not the Bible. That, my friend, is a big no-no amongst Christians so why do it?
Jesus showed by perfect example on how to carry out the will of the Father in all things. That’s why he is exalted above all esle. Why He is the God of the whole earth for He is one with God Most High.
(con’t)
Report Post »brian8793
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 4:22pmQuit your damn crying, baby.haha
Ya tongue-speakin moron….
Report Post »brian8793
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 4:25pmHey dogbrains, I’m an atheist and I love Mormons. They don’t threaten me hell and damnation, and my Mormon neighbors even brought me cookies to welcome me into the hood.
Even if there was a Jesus, you can’t honestly think he approves of your tactics, right? DEET DEE DEEEE!!!!
Report Post »Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 4:51pm(con’t);
For supporting scripture, read the following:
“That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.
.” (Psalms 83:18)
Jehovah = Jesus. Here ‘Jehovah…most high’ is rendered “YHWH Elyon” in Hebrew. Therefore, Jesus is ‘most high over the earth’. Compare to 3 Nephi 11:14 where Jesus declares Himself the “God of the whole earth”.
In Deuteronomy 32:8- 9 we read “When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. 9 For the Lord’s portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.“ ”Lord” = YHWH = Jehovah = Jesus. Here ‘sons of Isreal’ is rendered “sons of God” in the Dead Sea Scrolls as well as in the 2001 New english Version. Here we see that “Lord” is one of the sons of the “Most High” (“Elyon”). Here “Lord” or “Jesus” inheited Isreal from the ‘most high’. Compare this to John 20:17 “I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.”. Jesus declares He will ascend to His ‘God’. “Most high here is the Father. Jesus is greater than all for He fulfilled all of the “most high”. Also compare to John 14:28 where Jesus said, “for my Father is greater than I.”
Report Post »DogTags
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 4:53pmGalatians 1:6-9
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
Report Post »OutOfTheAether
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 5:04pmHey doggy tags,
Let’s use a little logic here concerning your obvious hate-filled rhetoric.
You say “Both religions received after-the-fact corrective “revelations”.
Weelll, as Christians, let’s talk about the Nicene Creed – the doctrinal basis for belief in God for both Protestant and Catholic religions. Was that a “corrective revelation”? If a Revelation, then it falls under the same condemnation logic you spout out. If it’s NOT a revelation, but something else, then how binding is it, coming from man and not God?
The old adage still applies dude: “When you live in a glass house, don’t throw rocks” – especially while shouting hate-filed rhetoric based on misinformed understanding
Report Post »ShooterB0Y
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 7:26pm@Dogtags
Dude, Don’t be a hater. Just because someone believes differently than you doesn’t mean you have to try and tear them apart for it.
Report Post »Blackjacx1
Posted on April 24, 2012 at 5:16amDogtags- I doubt you will listen, but I have a scripture to share with you from John chapter 10:
Report Post »32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?(Ps. 82: 6)
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son OF God?
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
So, the doctrine which you seem to find MOST objectionable was actually taught to the Pharisees; By Jesus Christ, and they said the same thing you are and tried to stone him for it. It seems to me, that is worth pondering.
infortheride
Posted on April 24, 2012 at 5:59pm@ Baikanur, Move to Utah, Salt Lake City. Take with you two granddaughters who are Amerasian, then try to say the same thing. I lived there, have two Amerasian Granddaughters, also two other Grandchildren, neither of Asian decent. The non Asian were treated nicely, while the other two were shunned by the same people who treated the other two terribly. Mormons are a very ugly religious group
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 1:15pmThe Blazers have a gift for finding something negative to say about the best of things. I think this is a great story, and exactly how people from different cultures and religions build understanding and friendship.
Slightly off topic, but this is also a good reason to drop the blockade of Cuba. Contact between well meaning people from different sides of the isle can only increase understanding.The more contact that Cubans have with other people, especially ordinary people, the more motivation they will have to work toward a more democratic form of government. And maybe we will learn a thing or two from them about universal healthcare.
Report Post »Rijjka
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 2:21pmIt is rather disheartening to see so many people unwilling or even unwilling to see good news for good news. So yeah, I find myself agree with you readily.
Report Post »DamocleAurelius
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 2:59pmExperience has taught me (or just made me jaded and cynical) to expect the sort of negative comparisons between Mormonism and Islam (even tho it is far more likely that, thanks in part to Mormonism, this young Muslim man will grow up to be a productive, vital member of the community and positive representative of his religion, instead of a bomb-strapping terrorist), so I just read this story for what it is: a beautiful story about how different religious ideologies can influence one another for good.
And how sad is it that so-called evangelical, or fundamentalist, Christians, are so fearful of Mormons that they cannot allow similar positive experiences into their own lives? Why do so many Christians have to spend their time tearing down and misrepresenting the Mormon faith? If Muslims, who have more in common with Jews than Christians, can be influenced by Mormons for good, how much more positively could Mormons influence their fellow Christians if the latter would just let them?
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 1:05pmThis thread is a perfect illustration why Jews trust Mormons and Muslims more than they trust fundamentalist evangelical Christians.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 1:47pmAnd you have done this survey?
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 2:01pm@4truth2all
Report Post »Posted on April 23, 2012 at 1:47pm
‘And you have done this survey?’
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It was an article here on The Blaze a couple of weeks ago. I think it stated that 48% of all American Jews have a positive view of Mormons, 43% have a positive view of Muslims, and 23% had a positive view of evangelical fundamentalists.
P8riot
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 2:27pm@4truth2all
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/poll-american-jews-favor-muslims-mormons-much-more-than-conservative-evangelical-christians/
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 2:45pmThis all goes back to the values P8triot mentioned.
It is the values that are important and what we as human beings live for, not ideologies. Values like friendhship, fairness, hard work, opportunity, kindness, education, health care, respect, optimism.
You call anything you do not understand Demonic or Communist. I think if demons and communists liked rainbows, you would condemn rainbows and find a biblical passage to support your emotional response.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 5:37pmThanks for the info … it should not surprise me as according to scripture they will make a peace deal with the antichrist and the majority of Jews still deny Christ as their saviour. ( No I do not hate Jews) and pray for the peace of Jerusalem consistantly.
Report Post »MacPharlan
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 5:48pmI totally agree, I never understood the hatred fear from my far right Christian brothers. It truly is a phenomenon, where else do you get churches that go so far out of their way to preach against another church. Why does your church try and teach about the Mormon church? Wouldn’t your time be better spent in learning about the gospel?
My guess it is money, this is a livelihood for most churches and they loose that livelihood if folk leave the flock. Otherwise I just don’t get it, what else could fuel so much hatred?
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:10pmThis is a great example of how members of two religions with completely different doctrines and theology can combine their similar VALUES to make their community (in this case, their school) a better place!
Congrats!
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 1:19pmAgreed 100%
Report Post »DogTags
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 1:32pmIslam and Mormonism are not different religions. They both come from the same demonic source. Both deny the tru nature of God and the LORDSHIP of Jesus Christ.
Report Post »mcsledge
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 2:08pmDogTags – The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints follows the doctrines taught by Christ through His Prophets and Apostles of old as well as living Prophets and Apostles today. Paul prophecied that there would be a failling away from the truth and John the Beloved prophecied in approx 90 AD (Book of Revelations) that an angel would restore the everlasting gospel to be taught thoughout the whole world. If you read the New Testament in its entirety, there would be no discussion. However, when you discredit the need for continuous divine revelation and you focus your doctrines on a few scriptures disregarding the majority of scripture that discredit your interpretation thereof, it is quite clear why Paul said what he said.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 2:15pm@Dogtags – I tire of your repeated falsification of my beliefs in my savior, Jesus Christ. AGAIN, here is a direct quote from our Bible Dictionary describing Christ.
“Christ. The anointed (Gk.) or Messiah (Heb.). Jesus, who is called Christ, is the firstborn of the Father in the spirit and the Only Begotten of the Father in the flesh. He is Jehovah, and was foreordained to his great calling in the Grand Councils before the world was. He was born of Mary at Bethlehem, lived a sinless life, and wrought out a perfect atonement for all mankind by the shedding of his blood and his death on the cross. He rose from the grave and brought to pass the bodily resurrection of every living thing and the salvation and exaltation of the faithful.
He is the greatest Being to be born on this earth—the perfect example—and all religious things should be done in his name. He is Lord of lords, King of kings, the Creator, the Savior, the God of the whole earth, the Captain of our salvation, the Bright and Morning Star. He is in all things, above all things, through all things, and round about all things; he is Alpha and Omega, the first and the last; his name is above every name, and is the only name under heaven by which we can be saved.
He will come again in power and glory to dwell on the earth, and will stand as Judge of all mankind at the last day. ”
Do the Muslims believe that? Do you?
…
Report Post »brian8793
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 4:34pmWow, that was actually a very intelligent, thoughful, and considerate comment. If more Christians were like you, people might not be flocking to atheism like they are. I take it you’re not an Evangelical.
Good man…
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 5:07pm@BRIAN8793
Thanks for the kind words. I‘ve read your posts and its refreshing to sometimes have a third party step in and remind everyone how we’re acting.
I keep trying to yell as loud as I can on this website that the left will intentionally use the “mormon issue” not to divide the independents and the left, but rather to divide the right from within. As you’ve noticed, its the evangelicals that go into convulsions when the world “mormon” is whispered – its not the left that is freaking out about it. You can likely attest that to people outside of the mainstream Christian denominations – every Christian religion seems crazy – not just us “mormons”
Report Post »individualrights1st
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:02amBasic individual rights take precedence over religion. Any group (or
Report Post »person), whether it be a religion or a political party, that does not
recognize the right of the individual is not worthy of any respect or
tolerance.
MS-GlenNBC
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 10:37amI think the Mormons will make good Muslims out of all of us….
Report Post »Joey8
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 10:48amLol still upset that your bff newt is irrelevant? Keep blaming the Mormons.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:02pm“bff newt” – lol! Newt is a bitter, adulterous old man… I just can‘t figure out why he didn’t get the nomination??;) But that’s okay, I‘m sure he’ll get the moon colony delegates.
@MS-GLENNBC – So will you vote for Romney or Obama (either by ballot, abstention, or by voting for a third party)???
Report Post »Marine 1
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:45pmGOD works in mysterious ways. It’s hard to say how or why this young man ended up as the student body president at BYU-H but there must be a reason for it. Stranger things have happened.
I run with this perspective, and it’s been emphasized from Elder Holland of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, we want the right to practice our religious beliefs and hold that to right to be true for others.
I absolutely do not agree with this young man‘s religion and that’s my right to do so. Hey, many of the folks that visit this site don’t think that Mormons are Chrisitian and feel the same way towards us. That’s cool!
As a convert to The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints from the Church of Christ, I can tell you all that we are Chrisitians. All that matters is that we know we are Christians.
Truth be known, that young man is fortunate to be able to attend BYU-Hawaii. I’ve been there and it is a beautiful place to go to school.
The polynesian people from the islands of the pacific are such beautiful and amazing people too.
The grounds are lush, green and well kept, the Temple sits upon the hill and is absolutely inspring, and the ocean is across the street. The place is like no other place in the world.
Now, I wonder if this young man had the opportunity to work at the Polynesian Cultural Center (PCC)next door? He looks somewhat polynesian.
All these things will give him unique perspectives on how others live — especially Latter-day Saints.
Report Post »MS-GlenNBC
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:51pmI will Vote for Newt…. I will vote against Obama…… I will never vote for Mitt..
I will follow your leader.. Glenn Beck.. and support a third party…
Just listen to Y O U R ~ L E A D E R….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcK_I3ogH0w substitute Mitt Romney’s name for Newt Gingrich……
Listen up Folks and Beck Heads……. If you did not listen to the link above, go back and listen to it. It is YOUR leader saying he will not vote for Newt…. Listen to YOUR leader…
Now a question for all you Beckheads and Romney-Aid drinkers…….
HOW DID BARACK OBAMA GET ELECTED ?
Answer…. Mitt Romney trashed every conservative in the 08 Primary giving us McCain… which lead to Obama.. Pat yourself on the back… Mitt gave us Obama
Just like Mitt gave us RomneyCare which lead to ObamaCare….
In 12 Mitt Romney has trashed all conservatives and Gingrich is still hanging in there with Paul…
Beckheads and Romney-Aid drinkers….. Mitt Romney still holds less than 45% approval from Republicans… He can’t even get 50% and you are waving the Victory Flag…
Mitt Romney is Barack Obama’s Running Mate.. In 08 he destroyed the GOP and gave us McCain and in 12 he has destroyed the Party with Paul and Gingrich hanging on.
You can’t even read this post and take a step back and see reality…. I will never Vote For Romney.. and like Beck, I will promote a third party..
OK for Beck, OK for me?
Report Post »MS-GlenNBC
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:55pmUh-Oh
Ron Paul’s Minnesota delegate blowout prompts Romney ‘panic,’ says Paul adviser
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/23/ron-pauls-minnesota-delegate-blowout-prompts-romney-panic-says-paul-adviser/#ixzz1svWBpg7y
http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/23/ron-pauls-minnesota-delegate-blowout-prompts-romney-panic-says-paul-adviser/
Report Post »MS-GlenNBC
Posted on April 24, 2012 at 12:10am“ The CARE Wars ”
You show me yours.. I’ll show you mine..
ObamaCare vs RomneyCare
Mitt Romney is Scared of Newt Gingrich… he is Ducking Debates…. Chicken?
How will he do against Obama? Obama on Letterman vs. Mitt on Leno
Report Post »MS-GlenNBC
Posted on April 24, 2012 at 12:21am@p8t
Who has a “DeathStar” Space Station…. The Russians
Who was ridiculed for StarWars…… Reagan….
Who is looking at Space Mining….. Google..& James Cameron. http://www.space.com/15395-asteroid-mining-planetary-resources.html
Who sold you off to Google… Glenn Beck… I have to Reset my Browser because of all the Cookie and Tracking YOUR Leader BECK has sold off. My Hard Drive is Spinning like Crazy every time I log on to this site.
Laugh it up D-head…. You are just like the Liberals who made fun of Reagan.. Reagan’s view of Starwars was just as Zany as Newts Colony on the moon…
HOW ABOUT ….. Woah !!! A Floating Colony in Space like the Death Star…
A S P A C E ~ S T A T I O N. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA NEWT i s ZANY>>>> Ooops… the Russians beat us to it… Maybe they will beat us to the Moon and we can rent space in their Moon Station when Google wants to Mine asteroids in space.
Laugh it up… When Romney helps Obama to his Second Victory…. Who you going to Blame? Me.
Look into history… Who is the Best Speaker of the House of ALL time?
1 Nancy Pelosi
2 John Get Along Boehner
3. Newt Gingrch
Look into history.. Who is the Only Governor to give his State Socialized medicine….
1. Ronald Reagan
2. Jerry Brown
3. Mitt Romney
You are too stupid to know your are stupid… Sorry, I don’t mean to be mean, it just is.
Report Post »MS-GlenNBC
Posted on April 24, 2012 at 12:34am@p8t
Sorry, made a spelling error…
You are too stupid to know you’re are stupid… Sorry, I don’t mean to be mean, it just is.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on April 24, 2012 at 12:40pmLOL!!! BOTH times in which you attempted to call me stupid you couldn’t figure out how to use the proper grammar and punctuation. LOL!!!
First, you didn’t know that “your” does not equal “you’re.” THEN you tried to correct your incorrect usage of the English language and messed it up again. Just so you know, you’re = you are. Thus, in your correction you stated “You are too stupid to know you ARE ARE stupid… Sorry, I don’t mean to be mean, it just is.” Maybe you didn’t make another grammatical error, maybe you just stutter when you type :)
Here’s a tip, if your going to try to call someone stupid – make sure you don’t in fact show your own stupidity in the process.
LOL – classic.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on April 24, 2012 at 2:02pm@MS-Glennbc
looks like Gingrich won’t be “hanging in there” much longer!
http://news.yahoo.com/gingrich-daughter-campaign-reassess-standing-161251966.html
Even you bff Newt knows he doesn’t stand a chance.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 9:59amNow, that I actually think about it… he is right about some mutual relationships between Mormon & Muslim!
Report Post »Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 10:41amWhat part of the story did you read which helped you conclude that Mormons acted as anything but Christian?
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:29am@DARREN
Report Post »My Degree in Divinity & Religious Studies… where having read the Books of both Religions… leads me to recognize that there are some similarities… begining with Fabrication, Wife-servant, Multiple Wives, Guidence by Elders, Collective Social-ism, etc.
Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:38amYour degree in Divinity & Religious Studies obviously has not taught you to answer a simple question.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:49am@DARREN
Report Post »What part of my original statement… did you not understand?
lukerw
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:00pm@DARREN
Report Post »You might also like to consider… in 1857, President Buchanan, Declared War upon Utah & the Mormon Rebellion, where their Religion caused them to hold practices contrary to US Law & Morality!
Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:04pmLurker;
“What part of my original statement… did you not understand?”
i understood all of it. Yes, you’ll find similarities between Mormons and Muslims. you can also find similarities between Catholics and Mormons like charity and havine teachers, priests, bishops, deacons, etc. and a belief in te necessity of baptism. You can also find similarities between Mormons and Baptists: read the bible for yourself, get a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, work hard and honestly, etc.
Now, what part of todays front page post leads you to concude that Mormons were acting less than Christian? Mormons ar,e afterall, Christian, not Muslim.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:20pm@DARREN
The word “THINK” means… to employ a Mental Process of Evaluation, Analysis, and Contemplation.
The word “SOME” means… a small quantity.
Report Post »ccrabill
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:25pmExactly right, Mormons and Muslims have a great deal in common, primarily the obsessive sexualization of their “faith”. The teachings of Judeo-Christianity place sexuality in it‘s proper perspective as a natural part of our humanity rather than the triumphant culmination of all life’s achievements to be eternally fixated on.
Seriously, when our flesh returns to the dust from whence it came, the spirit which is the truest expression of God given life, will be liberated from all the naturally occurring lusts associated with carnality, and be free to fellowship with the Creator unashamed. THAT is the POINT.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:43pmLurker;
“The word “THINK” means… to employ a Mental Process of Evaluation, Analysis, and Contemplation.
The word “SOME” means… a small quantity.”
Wonderful. Now, what part of today’s front page post leads you to conclude that Mormons acted less than Christian?
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:49pm@LUKERW – I’m just curious and thought I would finally ask – what is your profile pic? I’m not trying to be offensive, I‘m truly just curious as I’m sure it has a meaning.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 1:30pmCcrabill;
You gleaned the exact same intent from Lurker regarding the comparison of Mormons and Muslims. But here’s what the bible says regarding an and woman: “Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.” (1 Corinthians 11:11).
Also, here’s an excerpt from Tertullian: “A hint of the eternal nature of marriage is found in Tertuillian’s discourse on the widow, in which he wrote: “Indeed, she prays for his [her husband's] soul, and requests refreshment for him meanwhile, and fellowship (with him) in the first resurrection.”[2] In the same passage, speaking of marriage, he wrote: “If we believe the resurrection of the dead, of course we shall be bound to them with whom we are destined to rise, to render an account the one of the other…But if ‘in that age they will neither marry nor be given in marriage, but will be equal to angels,’ is not the fact that there will be no restitution of the conjugal relation a reason why we shall not be bound (to them), because we are destined to a better estate – destined (as we are) to rise to a spiritual consortship, to recognize as well our own selves as them who are ours… (con’t)
Report Post »Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 1:35pm(con’t);
“Consequently, we who shall be with God shall be together, since we shall all be with the one God – albeit the wages be various, albeit there be ‘many mansions,’ in the house of the same Father – having labored for the ‘one penny’ of the selfsame hire, that is, of eternal life; in which (eternal life) God will still less separate those whom He has conjoined, than in this lesser life He forbids them to be separated.”[3] ”
Tertuillian, ? Ante-Nicene Fathers, edited by Philip Schaff (Christian Literature Publishing Co., 1886)4:56, 67.
http://en.fairmormon.org/Mormon_ordinances/Marriage/Jews_and_early_Christians_on_marriage_after_death
Report Post »spamlds
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 9:53amThe religious and racial bigotry expressed in the comments on The Blaze is astounding. Intolerance and racism will doom America more surely than Progressivism or Socialism.
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 9:58amSpinster alert.
Report Post »rsanchez1
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:01pmNever mind that intolerance and racism are the signature tools of socialists and progressives.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 1:46pm@rsanchez1
Report Post »Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:01pm
‘Never mind that intolerance and racism are the signature tools of socialists and progressives.’
**************
Visit the Blaze and read the comments about black people, women who use work outside the home and use contraception, American Jews, gay people, teachers, etc. and you will decide that the Beck followers here are socialists and progressives ;)
4truth2all
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 9:07amI can drink coffee
Report Post »and I can drink tea
Jesus say‘s I’m free
and that it’s up to me …
I don’t have to pray five times a day,
I can do it any place. in any way.
Jesus is about freedom in Him ….I LIKE THAT!
Joey8
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 9:36amI can lie
Report Post »I can commit adultery
I can covet
I can hate my brother
I can be gay
How about the truth will set you free. If you love me, keep my commandments. That’s real freedom.
4truth2all
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 9:59amYo Joey8:
You totally missed it … cause you ain‘t telling me nothing I don’t know and don’t attempt to do; Joey.
Report Post »Machtyn
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:23amThe LDS people believe that drinking coffee, tea, and alcohol is a sin by commandment given by God through a living prophet. You DO realize that God’s people, the Israelites, also had a code of health. No pork, no meat and cheese, etc. Are you going to try and convince us that the Israelites, who received the 10 Commandments from God, are not free by following God’s commandments? That is essentially what you are claiming the LDS are doing.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:31amI am …I thought very clearly saying that I can drink coffee, and that NOWHERE in GOD’S WORD does it say otherwise …in fact QUITE THE OPPOSITE … but then I don’t follow other men. In addition; if I want to have a beer I am FREE to do so, and God’s Word would back me up….THAT”S WHAT I’M SAYIN….Yo
Report Post »Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:46am4Truth;
Here’s part of your original post:
“I can drink coffee
and I can drink tea
Jesus say‘s I’m free
and that it’s up to me …”
And now you’re saying:
” thought very clearly saying that I can drink coffee, and that NOWHERE in GOD’S WORD does it say otherwise …in fact QUITE THE OPPOSITE …”
Your original post clearly argued that you are free and Mormons are not basded upon the fact that Mormons do not drink tea or coffee and you do. If you want to argue that prohibiting coffee and tea are not part of God’s word than feel free to do so but that was not the essence of your original post but rather a different argument all together.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:05pmYo Darren;
No Darren, you are not correct …. and if you don’t mind I think I know what I was saying better then you … FREEDOM was not my point. I may have used it, but it was not the point.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 2:03pm4Truth;
“FREEDOM was not my point. I may have used it, but it was not the point.”
Fine. I do not doubt that it was but that is NOT what you posted. If your point is that Mormon standards of not drinking coffee and tea run contrary to biblical teachings, as I said, feel free to post it but instead of making that your original argument, despite of what you intended, your original argument was not that Mormon prohibition of coffee and tea are non-biblical but that they hinder on freedom. That since you are not prohibited from coffee and tea, you are free. In your own words:
“Jesus say‘s I’m free
and that it’s up to me …
I don’t have to pray five times a day,
I can do it any place. in any way.
Jesus is about freedom in Him ….I LIKE THAT!”
Clearly the gist of your post was about freedom.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 5:48pmYo Darrentheallknowing:
My point was ……that scripture was/is being misapplied if is even taken from the bible at all. Freedom in fact has nothing to do with it. Again I only used “freedom” as the scriptural example.
Clearly you missed the gist of my post …. please show me the scripture about the coffee in the 66 books of scripture … THAT IS THE GIST OF MY POST …thankyou …
Report Post »Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:28pm4Truth;
“My point was ……that scripture was/is being misapplied if is even taken from the bible at all. Freedom in fact has nothing to do with it. Again I only used “freedom” as the scriptural example.”
Freedom had everytyhing to do with your post, despite the fact that freedom was not your intent; but to show how scripture is misapplied.
Abstaining from coffee and tea are very latter-day revelations. The early saints could even drink and smoke until what is known as the Word of Wisdom was revealed and even after that it was only counseled to abstain from. It wasn’t until the early 20th century that the Word of Wisdom became a standard of the LDS Church.
You may be sola scriptura, Mormons are not. If you wanted to ask for a scripture reference for coffee and tea then why not simply ask for it? You did in your post @ 5:48 PM and I bet it wasn’t hard to do once you decided to do it.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on April 24, 2012 at 8:52amYo Darren:
Thankyou … but I already new the answer … and that is the POINT(or gist), if you will.
As far as the freedom thing …whatever, Darren …next time I want to post I‘ll just leave it blank and you can fill it in for me since you’re brain knows better then my brain the gist of it …
Report Post »Joey8
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:47amMy time in England as an LDS missionary taught me a few things. I was treated warmly and with respect from most Muslim families while the evangelicals would foam at the mouth and act like animals when they encountered us. Most of these comments reek of ignorance from “experts” on the Quran who have never read it. You do a good job of ignoring most of the Old Testament. These comments are embarrassing. I’d much rather associate myself with respectful Muslims and gays than these kind of “Christians”.
Report Post »hi
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 10:04amJesus is love. Many claim to be Christian but aren’t. I learned that at our baptism class. Many came to be baptized only to find out they have never been a true believer.
The Old Testament shows that man cannot live by the law and that man is sinful. The fact that someone didn‘t try to clean up the OT and hide man’s sin shows that it is true. Jesus came to take away man’s sin when he died on the cross. The Bible fits together perfectly from Genesis to Revelation when Paradise will be restored.
Jesus is perfect. Mohammad is a pedophile who declared holy war. Muslims mutilate female private parts. THey say it is okay to sleep with a child or a dead wife.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 10:43amI agree that some evangelicals do not adhere to a strict code of conduct and that muslims can find it refreshing to know their is a group of Christians who do adhere to one. I believe many in the muslim world see TV like 16 and pregnant on MTV or anything else for that matter and say Christian nation? The west is hell bound. I hope my son ends up at a nice strict Christian college.
Report Post »weremoose
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 10:47amJoey, I’m sorry that was your experience. While there are still good people everywhere, my experience is that England is generally a cesspool devoid of true Christianity. The highest concentration of true Christianity I’ve ever encountered in my travels is in some parts of Africa and the southern US. I wish you could come visit my very conservative evangelical church. We’d welcome you as a brother, and after discussing our different views on the faith, have you over for some pot roast and sweet tea.
Report Post »Joey8
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:17amDon‘t worry I don’t take the actions of a few to condemn an entire religion. I did meet many Christian African refugees over there who were the kindest people I’ve ever met. They were living in poverty but willing to share anything with strangers. There were also many Iraqi’s who loved us because we were American. It makes me sad to see how hatred can blind people here.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:50amWeremoose;
“I wish you could come visit my very conservative evangelical church. We’d welcome you as a brother, and after discussing our different views on the faith, have you over for some pot roast and sweet tea.”
Sounds like a really good church you attend. God speed, sir.
Report Post »BuckarooBanzai
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:52amJoey, hatred blinds people EVERYWHERE, not just here.
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Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:38am“I saw all these religious people who were successful and I thought, [‘I want to be like them]. I want to base my life on principles, you can’t fail this way.’”
Kind of like “Wrong Way” Wooten with your particular choice of direction then.
Report Post »RushEcho2
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:25amThe article has two typing errors in the name of “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints”, the main one being the ‘d’ is not uppercase ‘D’.
Report Post »SingerGuy
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:39amI was a typesetter for the LDS Church back in the 80′s. The first thing they told me was exactly how to type the name of the church, and that no variations or typos would be tolerated. You are correct, it is “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.” Rarely do I see outside media get it right.
Report Post »P8riot
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:45amHonestly, I’m just glad they used out correct name. Lately, I’ve heard many commentators, even conservative talk radio, simply call us the Church of Latter-day Saints. That drives me crazy more than anything because they know very well exactly what they’re doing and trying to imply.
Report Post »Rayblue
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:19amWhat a sweetheart. Seems being a cultist is right for him. And while his pandering monologue has it’s caveats and sideswipes, he’s just a regular guy trying to make it in a world that somehow has it all wrong except for the violent, suicidal, murdering adherents to islam he has avoided mentioning. But what a smile. What a positive attitude. What likability. What a croc.
Report Post »Joey8
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:32amWhat a sweet “Christian” you are. I’m so happy the message of loving your neighbor and removing the mote stuck with you. Keep being the light on a hill and setting the example. Keep looking at people as individuals like real conservatives do.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:32amEasy Ray, we all need to embrace this glorious multiculturalism. Look what it’s done for Europe!
Report Post »Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:56amWhen has mocking and ridiculing good Muslims become part of conservatism?
Report Post »notreally
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 9:08amReminds me of the charming smiley Hitler Youth circa ‘35.
Report Post »-7/09 UK’s Department for Children, Schools, and Families estimates that 5 to 8 thousand Muslim girls were forced to marry last year.
-1/29/07 Daily Telegraph UK: 40% of Muslims, ages 16 to 24, want Sharia law; 13% admire al-Qaeda; 36% believe apostates should be executed; 75% believe that women should wear veils.
-5/22/07 Reuters: 25% of young American Muslims believe in suicide bombings to fight the West. “We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us.” – Osama bin Laden
-7/10/07 worldpress.org: Poll of Muslims in Egypt, Morocco, Pakistan and Indonesia indicates that 75% believe in strict application of Sharia law.
-2/08 United Nations Report (un.org/en/women/endviolence): Mainly in Muslims nations, over 130 million girls and women alive today have undergone FGM (Female Genital Mutilation); each year 2 million girls are subjected to FGM.
-7/27/08 Sunday Times UK: 33% of Muslim students support killing for islam; 33% want world Islamic law.
-12/2/0/09 The Independant, London: UK fails to halt female genital mutilation; “cutters” being flown in by Muslims.
-3/8/10 Daily Telegraph: Sharia courts in Britain have already judged that a man may have up to four wives at any one time; that a wife has no property rights in the event of divorce; that a woman may not leave her home without her husband’s consent; and that a woman cannot marry without the presence and permission
Gonzo
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 9:48amI think it was around 9-11-2001 Darren.
Report Post »Angry Christian
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 9:49am@ Joey8: You claim to have been an LDS missionary, then you should realize that Islam intends to take over the entire world and FORCE us ALL to worship Muhammad or die. What’s wrong with you other than that you are obviously uninformed?
Report Post »Joey8
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 10:14am@angry Christian
Report Post »I‘m uninformed because I don’t believe an entire religion is evil because of extremists? I have read the Quran and I see as much hate in the Old Testament as I do in the Quran. I‘ll ask if you’ve read the Quran and you probably think you have since you’ve read verses from Google. You are so informed. How many Muslims have you interacted with in your life? Excuse me for being slow to condemn an entire religion because of a few. My religion suffered through persecution from so called “Christians” who were quick to condemn people to die because their beliefs were different but I don’t hold that against you.
Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 10:33amGonzo;
“I think it was around 9-11-2001 Darren.”
I’m glad those Muslims are dead but those are hardly the Muslims I was asking about, were they? Here was my question:
“When has mocking and ridiculing good Muslims become part of conservatism?”
That question was clearly referring to Mustapha El Akkari. Jihadists have declared war upon my country and I say we win that war, even if we have to kill each and every last one of them. But what part of what he said gives any indication of being a jihadist? If you think you can win this war mocking and ridculing all Muslims, even good ones like Mustapha El Akkari, than you’re gravely mistaken. For one thing, we got hold of Iraq in large part from alleying ourselves with Muslims willingto help us. Second, Islam is a very large religion, you honestly think by attacking all ofthem is gonigto advance anything Christian or conservative? Third, attacking religion is not righteous and I’m convinced that God will not support your efforts to do so.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:34am@DARREN
Report Post »If you bother to read the Koran… you will find that there are No Good Muslims… or as Thomas Jefferson said (paraphrased)… ‘they are Crazy’!
P8riot
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:52amI sure hope the rest of the world doesn’t judge Christianity by our historical extremists.
Good thing I don‘t judge the southern baptists’ chastity by the actions of Brittney Spears.
Report Post »Rayblue
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:54amJoey…assumptions like yours based on your own misconceptions about me is a hallmark of the untrained mind.
Report Post »Let every eye negotiate for itself and trust no agent. The facts of the muslim cult are glaringly obvious for the awake to view in its full regalia. Your hero Obama can smile till his teeth fall out along with this storys subject, but that’s no reason to put any creedence in their drivel. For the ignorant it suffices.
Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:57amLurker;
“If you bother to read the Koran… you will find that there are No Good Muslims… or as Thomas Jefferson said (paraphrased)… ‘they are Crazy’!”
If you bothered reading the front page post above you‘ll see that you cannot say anything negative about Mustapha El Akkari’s character. You honestly think that by condemning his religion that you’re going to help him at all? There ARE attempts to convert him but they clearly go about it by respecting his religion and his beliefs. Jihadists are crazy, kill every last one of them if mst be forthey’ve waged war upon my country and have slaughtered many of my countrymen. but Mustapha El Akkari is not one of them, sir. Neither are many like him. Why condemn him only because of his religion? He didn’t launch a jihad or encourage people to fly airplanes into the Twin Towers.
Report Post »Rayblue
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:19pmdarren…I’m free to mock and ridicule anyone and anything I please. Expressly because I AM free to do so. islam doesn’t even pretend to have that standard of values. And when they claim to, it’s not based in any form of reality.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:26pm@DARREN
Report Post »I am not here… to help him… nor Convert him. His Religion is self-defined to be the Enemy of all other Religions… and I accept their Declaration of Permanent War… so, I perceive the followers as an Enemy!
Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 5:45pmRayblue;
Nobody here is denying you one iota of your freedom to ridicule and mock. All I asked is when did it become a part of conservatism to mock and ridicule a good person like El Akkari’s religion. He has purported nothing sinister, evil, or bad as far as I can tell. Yet for the mere fact that he’s Muslim he is mocked and ridiculed. We need to side with people like El Akkari; not tear him down because of his faith.
________________________________________________________________________________
Lurker;
“and I accept their Declaration of Permanent War… so, I perceive the followers as an Enemy!”
Yet what part of the declaration does El Akkari play? I cannot perceive he has a part in any way. So why mock and ridicule him for something he does not promote? Christianity for many centuries had a de facto war against Judaism yet tha has nothing to do with you or me as Christians.
Report Post »Rayblue
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 7:06pmTypical of the muslim cult to speak publicly (at first) about the fine morality they outwardly possess until the payment comes due. The stupid 70 something virgins in heaven must really be a “together” moment for the regular jihadist. The “irregular” will not mention much less denounce that absurd belief for obvious reasons. Because they all believe the same thing in the end. That murder and savagery is the acceptable norm for all muslims with some only unwilling to admit to loving an atrocious superstitious hatefilled backward heresy of a religion for the outward gain it could afford them. This smiler is only playing possum until the time when forced by his peers to choose between themselves or the conscience he professes to possess. And thus they clothe their naked villiany.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:40pmRayblue;
“The stupid 70 something virgins in heaven must really be a “together” moment for the regular jihadis”
Here‘s the virgins they’ll find. not exactly what they expect. ;>)
http://www.hamous.org/?p=4312#comment-53982
(Hat tip to blogger Wagonburner)
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:19amHow dumb can we be? A muslime, is a muslime, is a muslime. their core is hate, evil, violence. It is their society, the way they are brought up (I changed that from “reared” for obvious reasons). they are taught to lie, cheat, kill, mutilate, rape, murder all for 27,000 virgins, give or take a few thousand.
muslimes, go home. Do yourselves in. Leave the rest of us alone.
Report Post »Sol Invictus
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 9:00amHow’s that “turn the other cheek” working out for you then Grandma? Out of interest, do you have any opinions on Mormons?
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 9:23amSOL……….That turn the other cheek bludgeon that the left uses on Christians isn’t going to work any more. Reread the scripture with a good commentay by someone like J. Vernon McGee.
Christians are supposed to fight against evil not embrace it.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 10:13amYo Momrules:
YES, we are to fight against evil. Unless it is war we do not for the most part do that physically. We do that spiritually since our battle is such (please read Ephesians 6:10-19). I have the right to protect my family, or a woman who is being raped. I am in these moments given the right by God to kill another.
The commandment is not kill … it is thou shall not murder …
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 10:34am4thuth2all……..exactly right. No where have I read in the Bible that Christians are to just be rugs for evil to walk on.
Report Post »Sol Invictus
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:27amI notice Grandma never replies herself, just posts and runs away. I also notice that you actually quote Ephesians to “overule” the word of Jesus himself. Just accept that you really don’t get it – you‘re not Christians and you’re not saved. Spite and hatred are NOT Christian. Period. You‘ve got to have guts to accept Jesus’ commandments – you can’t say “Oh he didn’t really mean that”. lol.
Report Post »weremoose
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:38amEph 4:15. The body of Christ grows when we speak the truth in love. I fail to see the love in Grandma’s post. Muslims, don’t go home, come and have a discourse with us. My faith, for one, is strong enough to hear about Allah. And hopefully my faith is strong enough to bring a Muslim(s), lost in the dark, to the light and freedom of Christ.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:40amYo Sol:
Since when are the words in Ephesians NOT the WORDS of GOD ????????
“You‘re not christians and you’re not saved”, say you …. and YOU KNOW THIS AS A FACT …this statement goes AGAINST the VERY WORDS of CHRIST ….. and you are “telling” me ???
Report Post »Sol Invictus
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:50am@Weremoose
Report Post »Thank you for expressing it so much better than I did. Your faith is as strong as Grandma’s insecurity.
weremoose
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:54amSOL, you seem to equate conflict with spite and hatred. This is not the case. You can fight for the Lord with love in your heart. It is not the man you are fighting, but the power of darkness that has imprisoned him. This is the meaning behind Eph 6 and what I believe 4Truth was saying.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 12:16pmYo Weremoose:
Correct …. THE CROSS was WAR … I am to understand what plays apon the hearts of men and fight against that power.
“Deep calls to deep” … is scripture I love … I would not wish to sound arrogant but “we” are a shollow pond.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:12amI called my parents and told them there were islands in the Pacific where people live. They never knew it
yet somehow we let them dictate how we fight a war
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 10:46amthe majority of the info, tv internet etc is censored in the arab countries. they are indoctrinated in their mosques since they are young. knowledge is power. that is why many arabs come here and begin living secular lives because they find out most of what they have been told about the western world is wrong.
Report Post »woodruff
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:11amMormons are human and we don’t discriminate because of religion to go to BYU. Students that attend have to live the Honor Code and it is easy to conform to once you realize that it’s in place for your success (most students have growen up with the honor code at home) So very greatful that this young man will take a positive attitude home towards the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:09am.
El Akkari is a Muslim who credits the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints-affiliated school with making him a better Islamic adherent.
Plus they have pretty little rugs too…….
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:04amDid they rip those pages out of his Ouran that says to kill the Infidel? Just have to ask what book he was reading cause it sure wasnt the Quran or he would be killing them or converting them….Its a religion from hell…
Report Post »Better Dead Than Red
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 9:35amI suppose the Christians ripped out the same pages (and Mormons who still read the Bible, the BOM is supplementary)
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:03amGreat story of hope and all..
But let him do a semester with the Muslim Brotherhood and
he will be put to death…
for being a “Lukewarm Muslim”
OR
He will be strapping on bombs in no time..
It’s something isn’t it…
When a Muslim does NOT follow the teachings of Mohammad ..
You get a decent law biding citizen.. and
If he does follow his teachings…He can become a monster..
When a Christian does follow Jesus Christ teachings..
You get a decent law biding citizen…and
If he does NOT follow his teachings ..He can become a monster..
Christianity is the exact opposite of the Islam faith…
Report Post »Isn’t that something…
loneindividual
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:03amI DO NOT HATE MUSLIMS but I have to say the following about Islam.
Ramadan = In the dark of the night when the Sun has set and Darkness has covered the land….all Muslims will *BREAK* their *FAST*.
Gives new meaning to Breakfast in the Mourning.
Jihad = Islamic Revolution
….and for all you Mormons out there….you’re gonna love this…..
———->>>>>>> Master Mahan —>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Mahan
then
———->>>>>>Mahan Airlines —>>> http://www.mahan.aero/home.asp?lang=en-us
and then there’s this —->>>> The Prophet Mohammed never attacked Christians or Jews, was blind and illiterate….yet his successors were the one’s that actually wrote the Koran and established an IMPERIAL CALIPHATE.
True or False Prophet…the Koran is a pact of lies.
Report Post »loneindividual
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:33amcorrection, Mohammed did attack Christians and Jews….according to what’s in the Koran
Report Post »mike551
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:01amWell, like Andy always said, “don’t that beat all.”
Report Post »loneindividual
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 7:47amMaking a person actually have more convictions & giving them the tools to properly express themselves IS REALLY BETTER THAN thinking like a “luke-warm” piece of **** who do nothing OR feeling that violence is always the answer.
Report Post »Mr.Fitnah
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 7:58amWhat does Islamic scripture have to say on the matter ?
Report Post »http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=161&CATE=14
loneindividual
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:41amlolz!
You need to study the history of the Seljuk.
Muslims are tools n’ fools.
We now have a new breed of “revolutionaries” called ISLAM-O-MARXISM
I use to defend Islam….but it’s pretty clear that it is only meant to *discipline* the Muslims as CANNONFODDER for the expansion of an Islamic Empire.
Report Post »Mr.Fitnah
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 7:46amAs for fasting, skipping lunch isnt fasting. I have fasted for 40 days twice( water only) and 30 days several more times.You learn the difference between what you want and what you need.
Report Post »loneindividual
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:36amThe point is that they feast in the night.
Report Post »SurhanSurhan
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 11:41amObviously you two know nothing about fasting. If you drink water during your fast you have broken your fast. Eating a small meal at sunset and restarting the fast before daybreak is the proper way to fast. You two need to go somewhere and get a clue.
Report Post »Mr.Fitnah
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 7:42amI wont go into details as far as scripture goes , but does he say who he has killed?
Report Post »momrules
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 7:41amIs he trying to hurt the reputation of Mormon faith or help it?
Just what the world needs, another faithful adherent to the cult of Islam.
Report Post »grimmy
Posted on April 23, 2012 at 8:04am@Momrules.
Report Post »I agree,looks like he will follow the koran more closely,and finish his path to being achmed the dead terrorist…..