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CA Man Drowns After Policy Forbids Rescue Workers From Saving Him

A police and fire department policy has been changed after a San Francisco-area man committed suicide by wading into the bay and drowning, all while first responders stood by for an hour and watched.

Rescuers in Alameda, CA cited budget cuts and policy for not rescuing the man earlier this week.

“(The) Alameda Fire Department does not currently have, and is not certified, in land-based water rescues. The city of Alameda primarily relies on the United States Coast Guard for these types of events,” a police spokesperson told NBCBayArea.com.

The Coast Guard tried to respond, but the water was too shallow for them to stage a rescue. That created an almost unbelievable scene, said witnesses:

That means not one certified person did anything. That is until one off-duty nurse swam 50 yards to recover the man’s lifeless body. But her efforts were all for naught. The man was later declared dead.

The policy forbidding such rescues has now been reversed after local outcry and a public hearing:

“It just strikes me as unbelievably callous that nobody there with any sort of training couldn’t strip off their gear, go in the water, and help this person,” one man said during the meeting.

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  • Texas woman56
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:39pm

    This is the Obama admin. We have more to come before he is voted out. Muslim schools all over the U.S. and more opening, paid for by U.S. taxpayers.

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  • Fight for America
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:39pm

    The man was supposedly committing suicide.

    Yes, in our hearts we believe or want to believe that it is up to us to save him whether or not he is ill or suicidal or caught in the water.

    Now, if one of them had gone to save him and that rescuer was pulled down to drown as well, his name would be listed as a hero across the papers. A dead hero.

    His loved ones would have lost him and on the financial side, the govt. would have said he was acting against orders so no payout on insurance or any other benefit. Not being callous just honest.

    People who commit suicide also risk the lives of others sometimes – where is the line that says his life / death was more important than that of the rescuer?

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    • Dustoff
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:33pm

      It’s a risk that life savers take everyday.

      Part of the job.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:55pm

      Enough. There are far riskier rescue operations than saving a drowning man, especially if he is suicidal. He probably doesn’t have much fight left in him. If you are TRAINED, you can do it without losing your life as well. How stupid are we becoming?

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  • Richard Compton
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:37pm

    Where there is a godless society like that in San Francisco it is not suprising to hear of such things, may God forgive them for their actions, and may they come to understand the error of their actions. We can only pray for them for they have no idea of what they are doing.

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    • mdlwoods
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:57pm

      All I can say is Amen, Richard. Oh, and that I Thank God everyday and count my many blessings that I was born, raised and still live in TEXAS! Nothing so callous would have happened here and no law so stupid would have been in effect here.

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  • caexpat
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:35pm

    Just what Ca needs, to pay out more millions in a lawsuit, …Get ready Ca, just open your wallet!

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    • Vickie Dhaene
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:06pm

      Well, all these Califreakinlosers believe in redistribution of wealth let them redistribute away. They don’t care who gets their money. They want to share it all. Don’t they say that all the time?

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    • Kalidor835
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:53pm

      No they want to share everybody’s but their own. Just look at how many of the rich progressives put their money in offshore banks where it can’t be taxed like Spooky Dude does.

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  • gAMEoVER
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:35pm

    people who need people. obamas defeat will be sweet

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  • Dustoff
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:35pm

    SF doesn’t have a helo?
    Come on. This is what I do for a living.

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    • G
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:11pm

      THANK YOU. I have 3 kids, 2 Soldier Medics. I think they would have appreciated someone trying to save their father from committing suicide as well. yup you heard me. I would have too. 16 yrs ago. Shame on them for not bothering with this man.

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  • trnkey
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:34pm

    Maybe if the guy was an illegal alien they would have responded….

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  • Texans stand UP
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:33pm

    Im A Fire fighter and This is not surprising me. This all stems from Big Goverment and regulation, You cant blame the fire fighters. This man put his self in this situation why should a fire fighter risk their life for someone that dosent want to be here?

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    • Vickie Dhaene
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:01pm

      Because that is what the “FIREMAN” signed up for. To save lives, this is incredible. They watch a mans house burn to the ground because of 75.00 fee to city. When are you all going to wake up?!!!

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    • G
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:06pm

      I DO blame the firefighters. What is the MATTER with your thinking on this. What if it was a 14yr old child? What if this was your MOM. You would have me believe you would save a kitten up a tree but not TRY to save him and watch him drown for an HOUR.

      Just simple COMPASSION please. No matter how you feel about it, this life is on the heads of those who watched and simply did NOTHING. His feeling of hopelessness in this world was surely proven on that day.

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    • bertr
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:54pm

      Im not saying they should face legal punishment for it, Im just saying they were wrong to follow the rules instead of doing the right thing

      The emergency responders are to blame here, if you stand by and watch someone die because of policy, you’ve already lost something of more value then your job.
      If they were ordered to kill children or gas jews and they did would they be without blame to? I know a lot that would also say they werent to blame in that case either so i suppose there is a split opinion.

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    • patriot308
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:27pm

      As a retired firefighter. I agree with Texasstandup. And to everyone on this forum, loading up on keyboard testosterone …. I will tell them to expect you to volunteer for you local rescue services. (there is always a need) If the loser had changed his mind… he could have walked back out. For the most part this forum has become superwussies. Go on back to your I wooda, they shoulda, they coulda. And encinosomething… you can still bite me!

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:30pm

      patriot308
      “If the loser had changed his mind… he could have walked back out.”
      ——-
      If the “loser” could have changed his mind without help, he wouldn’t have committed suicide. Making it public was probably his last cry for help. People who are mentally ill or have severe emotional trauma are not losers; they have a disease which can be treated.

      Glad you’re retired.

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    • football lady
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 7:42pm

      Thankfully, I don’t know any firefighter like you.

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    • bertr
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 6:39am

      If they didnt save him because he was an idiot that would have been different, the reason they say they did save him is because of the policy.
      There‘s no need to become a firefighter to save someone’s life, but anytime I see EMS, firefighters, police on a scene, I assume they have it handled.
      They probably should have just left when they got there

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  • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:32pm

    San Francisco reaps what they sow. This story is representative of the inhabitants of that cesspool. Someday when SF crumbles under the big one I wonder if the rest of us will stand there and watch?

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  • Jim Ed
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:32pm

    I can just see the wrongful death suit coming next and in SF they will probably win millions of dollars because of this stupid policy.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:32pm

    Great example of how government works. If you’re not certified in fire fighting and you are standing with a garden hose next to a burning man, are you allowed to squirt him…a little bit?

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    • integrican
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:03pm

      @ Gonzo: Not unless you have a ‘certified water-saver nozzle’ !!!

      Suicide eh? It was a cry for help. Who, in their right mind, would wade into the cold bay to commit suicide? Especially with that beautiful Golden Gate Bridge just miles away. If he was actually not in his right mind than a rescue should have been attempted. Regardless of policies. It’s called look, assess, adapt, act!!! I’m sorry, that’s what heroes do…..it is NOT what Cali pansies do!!!

      I wonder if a kid fell off of a dock into the water in a ‘no swimming’ area, would he be saved? Or would the rescuers say “We can’t go in there…..can’t you see the sign? …..there is no swimming here!”

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  • Vickie Dhaene
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:32pm

    Humanity is lost. I can just imagine what these people were saying as they WATCHED this man die. My heart is sad, my mind whirling, what can I possibly do to change anything? Evil surrounds me. I pray God takes me home too.

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  • TEIN
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:31pm

    Welcome to socialist USA!!! If it is not in my Union description or I don’t have a cert to do it, I am not obligated to try and resolved of any wrong doing by policy…

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  • chubster
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:31pm

    We need to find as many Jackhammers as we can, cut around the city limits of San Fran and kick that city off into the Pacific!

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  • Rob
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:30pm

    Not everyone needs to be kept alive.

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  • mom4times
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:29pm

    when is Ca going to fall into the ocean….it’s turning into a major trash heap

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:03pm

      I’m ready for it.

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    • The1stDave
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:42pm

      That plate is heading northwest. Eventually it will be under Washington. California won’t fall off the country, but it makes for a nice story. We can hope.

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    • Domin0z
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 6:04pm

      I’m with you. I’m sick of hearing about them and the damage that they have done to themselves. Let’s cut them off the nations tit now…before it’s too late…or before it’s too, too, too late.

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  • Gump
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:29pm

    Wow, policy over human life. I think we need alot more government layoffs.

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  • red_white_blue2
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:29pm

    Common Sense, Common Decency, Common Morality–anyone have it anymore!!??

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  • Tomfang
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:28pm

    Only 50 yards out? I am normally on the side of the rescue workers, but this is just too ridiculous. Well, after all, it IS San Fran sissy co.

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    • starman70
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:32pm

      After 40+ years as a volunteer Fire/Rescue worker I personally find this the most disturbing display of idiotic andmoronic behavior by the onscene commanders. ONE LIFEJACKET and one strong swimmer and the person would still be alive. With all the police and fire personell on the scene, surely there was someone who would fit the bill.

      Being a UNION shop, the firefighters could not do anything without being ordered to. They would face disciplinary action from their department and even sanctions by the union. So, even though the subject wanted to take his life, he succeeded because of total malaise on the part of the first responders.

      What comes next, refusing to fight a fire in a business because the workers in tghat business weren’t unionized? I certainly hope that San Sissy Frisco and the rest of California is the ONLY place in the USA where such a story would come from. I hope the rest of the country has better sense than this.

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  • NOTAMUSHROOM
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:27pm

    If any one of those guys had any morals, they would have shouted, “I quit!” and jumped in to save the guy. What is this world coming to?

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  • HorseCrazy
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:27pm

    sad! morally I cannot stand by while someone is suffering, hurt, being beaten or dying. All of these videos lately where no one cares or does anything breaks my heart. at which point do we just start doing the right thing?

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    • J.C. McGlynn
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:49pm

      WE, as individuals, can make that choice. Fortunately, some of us still have a mind capable of problem solving and morals.

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  • Elena2010
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:26pm

    Thank you San Fran for again proving you are not of us Americans!

    Morons! What ever happened to the concept of the Good Samaritan? Oops — my bad, that’s a Biblical concept — tot+al6ly fo14eign to San Francisco!

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    • BSdetector
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:32pm

      Not foreign, just “against policy.”

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    • J.C. McGlynn
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:36pm

      Didn’t Oblahblah say something about being “My Brother’s Keeper” when he was getting Obummer care passed? A religeous concept.

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  • colascguy
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:25pm

    Their Union Contract does not cover saving lives.

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:18pm

      What does this say about the American people? How about this union? CHARACTER, INTEGRITY, GODLY LOVE OF MAN? To do the RIGHTEOUS thing is an abomination to satan and therefore when you do not do the righteous thing, you are not of God. There is no in between. Each and every person standing there that did nothing, will be held ACCOUNTABLE to God.

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    • grandma7
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:14pm

      San Francisco

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  • salvawhoray
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:23pm

    I have nothing against a person that wants to commit suicide, just don’t be an ******* and take people with you.

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    • smokie
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:01pm

      It was such a public event- wading in to the bay- that I suspect true suicide may not have been his goal. he could’ve crawled under his sink and ate rat poison if suicide were his true aim.
      I like how they leapt forward and kicked ‘budget cuts’ into the fray, because that’s the real story they are trying to push. In my small town, it’s called Extortion.

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    • Nobamazone
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:31pm

      I’m with smokie on this one. The man was crying out for help. I don’t personally understand this, but it is a fact that most suicide attempts are actually very desperate cries for help. People who really want to die, do, because they don‘t do it in public and they don’t use a method that might not work.

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  • Robert-CA
    Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:23pm

    They should read their OATH again .

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    • theonefromabove
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:30pm

      Whoever made that policy should have some consequences.

      http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos

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    • J.C. McGlynn
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:30pm

      UNION RULES! This is what democracy looks like!

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    • BSdetector
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:30pm

      The problem is if they violate policy, Uncle Sam throws the book at them even if it was the right thing to do…

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    • Opinionmonger
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:33pm

      Where does it states that ONE person who has obvious chose to die has to be recued?
      From what and by whome?

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    • Uncurable wound
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:34pm

      I will not be surprised when this whole craphole city falls into the ocean!I thought miniaholeless was bad,but sanfransissyco wins the prize.
      God cursed sodomites!

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:36pm

      Why should police or fireman risk their lives to save someone whose doesn’t want theirs? There should be a nationwide policy that requires all public servent to ignore these people. Sure it cold but alot of people would stop doing if the world would stop looking.

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    • TexasCommonSense
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:39pm

      Maybe they should have gotten one of their $200,000 per year life guards to do his job. OK, different city, but still a good point. It’s all California wackiness.

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    • bbg1123
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:39pm

      I would blame society, and those who like to sue people who are good samaritans. I just glad I wan’t there. I don’t think I could have stood there, and watched this man drown, although it was obviously his desire from the outset. He just did it it public …

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    • vennoye
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:40pm

      Guess the Alameda Fire Department doesn’t have anyone who knows how to swim either…..wonder how it makes you feel to stand and do nothing while someone drowns?

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    • lovenfl3
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:40pm

      What a mess that whole state has turned into. How could anyone just stand there and watch this?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbXPpBLlc1U

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    • oldasdirt
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:42pm

      California:So P C people die for it.
      Bachmann-West or West Bachmann.
      You want truth,they can handle the truth.

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    • D0ntTread0nMe
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:43pm

      I live here in Cali and it’s all people are talking about… keep in mind the fire chief is actually saying they would not save a drowning child… Kalifornia is imploding, and the crazy nut-bags out here don’t even care. They are actually starting to sound like a bunch of lawyers instead of free thinkers… it truly is sad! Abolish Cal-Osha!!!!
      http://www.mythoughtsfromthemiddle.blogspot.com

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    • NES
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:45pm

      Typical leftist compassion and upholding of the rule of law. The law never applies except in the rare cases when it‘s obvious that it shouldn’t based on natural law and human morality.

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    • wildjoker5
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:46pm

      Just like the emporer of Japan that lost his family cause no civilian could touch the ruling class. So his family drowned because the witnessess were afraid to be put to death for touching them,

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    • Who would Jesus bomb?
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:52pm

      Now that is some STUPID S#!T!

      That‘s the GOV’T for you! Oh well, at least the guy got what he wanted.

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    • the_ancient
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:56pm

      I am sooo tried of people using the Nazi Defense to explain their actions,

      “But I was ordered to kill them, I was just doing my job”

      But there are no pubic servants any more, the pubic has become the servant, and how dare we expect our masters to risk themselves to save a lowly pheasant

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    • USAMama
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:56pm

      Yikes! If I was gonna kill myself I think I would find a better way of doing it then THAT!?! Part of me thinks that if he was determined to do it, anyone who was a simple bystander on their own trying to help him would have just been putting themselves in danger because he would fight the rescue. However, if I were there, I couldn’t watch, I would probably go in and try to do something even though I don’t think it would be wise. But it would just be a natural instinct. The people trained in this sort of thing and with the proper equipment, however, have no excuse and should have at least tried. If any other bystander had gone in after him and drowned in the process the professionals would have both deaths on their hands, IMO.

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    • Meyvn
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:01pm

      Hmm. Since when does SF admit relying on the military? They generally snub them.

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    • JoKerr
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:06pm

      They should have ran down to the Home Depot and picked up some illegals…. they know how to swim and aren’t constrained by the law.

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    • Joey8
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:09pm

      hasn’t anyone seen the incredibles? save someone trying to commit suicide and you’ll probably get sued

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    • Christian4ever
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:09pm

      I’m sure GOD will look down on them and say “ Good Job ” Not…..When they go one day to meet Him (GOD) he will actually say ” What have you done for your fellow man? “. Good luck guys. I would have quit my job on the spot and saved him. To hell with the unions.

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    • Susan Harkins
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:12pm

      Then again, it occurred in no other place than….San Francisco.

      You want to fix gridlock and inaction?

      Shove California (the Progressive Kingdom) into the ocean, for starters. Then remove their ‘representitive disease’ from DC.

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    • Ronko
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:14pm

      What a joke, I hope the family sues the state for all it’s worth because I know that I would. This is disgusting and I hope someone pays for this.

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    • nptden
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:14pm

      Nothing like a Communist regime who control by committee and unions to replace ‘courage’. California should be known as the first ‘Red’ state.

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:19pm

      Why won’t either of these videos play? I click “play” and they stay black. Frustrating.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:27pm

      Once again, I AM GLAD I DON”T LIVE IN CALIFORNIA!
      They are too stupid to save a person walking into the water.
      I sure hope those people don’t hold their mouths open while looking up in a rainstorm.

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    • jackeric61
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:33pm

      What happened to this man is awful but he chose to do what he did. The fire and rescue teams may not be certified in water rescue and the fact that the coast guard could not get in is BS They are certified in water rescue. They are the ones who failed. But it still comes down to the man taking responsibility for his actions and it ended in his death.

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 1:38pm

      Government at work. Can you imagine what will happen when Obamacare is implemented?

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    • Ookspay
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:01pm

      If they had saved his life he would have sued. He wanted to die, he suceeded. Nothing to see here, just keep moving.

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    • We Are Not Alone
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:02pm

      There was a time, not that long ago, that not one person would have stood around and let this happen;
      before we fundamentally changed this GREAT country.

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    • Ironmaan
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:05pm

      God forbid something happen to them and they couldn’t collect those fat pensions.
      http://guerillatics.com

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    • Dont-hate-on-me-2
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:06pm

      BSdetector
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 12:30pm
      The problem is if they violate policy, Uncle Sam throws the book at them even if it was the right thing to do…
      ———————————————————————————————————————————————–
      I cant belive this, The problem is these agencys have lost the definintion of right and wrong in there boook of political correctness or fear of losing thier job. THIS GUY JUST LOST EVERYTHING!!!. If i was a bistander and saw this i would have jumped in and tryed to save him, but how could i ever look at my kids again knowing i stood by while a life was needlessly lost because we did nothing, How could i look at myself.Take a stand, do the right thing even if it leads to your death.
      I stand with Isreal

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:16pm

      Lets cut more taxes , causes tax cuts never hurt anybody, and along as the rich can continue to get larger and larger tax breaks it will all work out in the end.

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    • Domin0z
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:17pm

      I thought there was some kind of good citizens law. Basically, if you are able to help without risk to yourself, then you HAD to help. Maybe I am wrong. I think it is disgusting to sit there and let a human being die for “policy”. What the hell is going on in this country? Oh, that’s right…we are talking about California.

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:22pm

      Don’t ya just love the common sense of these Kaliforians!!
      A blue state for sure!! I hope Texas can hold all the workers and companies that are leaving Kalifornia.
      They are running out of people to TAX – Ha HA

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:28pm

      How do you wake up in the morning and look at yourself in the mirror, knowing you let someone drown while you watched. Is this a desensitizing exercise so when people are marched into the gas chambers you are impervious to their fate? Who, in their right mind, would set a policy like that; and who, in their right minds, wouldn’t attempt to save this person? A rope, as we saw in Arkansas, anything!

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    • We Are Not Alone
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:33pm

      @ENCINOM – This has NOTHING to do with cutting taxes, it has everything to do with common decency, which is LOST….. Blame the rich all you want but without them and their money, we are all doomed. This is an old banality but “I never worked for a poor man” did you.

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    • Melvin Spittle
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:35pm

      Government is full of robots that cannot consider moral judgment and common sense to act decisively. It has been conditioned out of them.

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    • nothingbuthetruth
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 2:48pm

      Califonia STINKS!!!!

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    • ME
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:12pm

      J.C. McGlynn
      UNION RULES! This is what democracy looks like!

      Yes!! They will stand with there brothers in the union before they will raise a hand for any mankind. When it there pension or a raise on the table and your life is in the balance they just proved its them they will worry about first, who really needs them? Only the other government workers that need the revenue/tax they impose on us I would love to know if they would have fined him if he would have lived?

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:32pm

      This man had a disease. He suffered from clinical depression or trauma, and he should have been rescued and given therapy.

      Now he is in h*ll, and those who could have done something to stop it are accountable to God. And don‘t tell me a suicidal man can’t be saved from drowning. With a little training, first responders can tell when the individual has stopped struggling, and then they can pull him out.

      This is what happens when you are taught that man evolved from apes and the world was formed through spontaneous generation. Who cares if one or twenty million people are wasted when there is no afterlife or accountability to a Higher Power.

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    • BenThereToo
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:40pm

      It’s the “policy” that’s to blame, not the rescue workers. There are simply too many flippin’ laws and policies in this country. Often made by unelected…what shall we call them…how about something like czars.

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    • The Big Pickle
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 3:46pm

      This guy died because of LAWYERS, LAWYERS, LAWYERS and LAWYERS!

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    • getalong
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:08pm

      Unbelievable. My prayers are with this man’s family. Suicide is a horrible death that leaves so many unanswered questions. But for this family to also deal with the fact that itr could have been prevented if just one person had intervened is unconscienable. What is this country coming to when there are people who would sit back and watch someone commit suicide.

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    • 101
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 4:16pm

      Union over life…Hmmm have to ponder that one for a while, to late he’s dead!

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    • GODSAMERICA
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:07pm

      @theonefromabove
      “Whoever made that policy should have some consequences”
      That plus any uncaring idiot that #1 obey a policy like that, #2 let things like “budget cuts” determine if they save someone’s life or not. If anyone makes a determination like that based on either of these “reasons” then they have absolutely NO business being in any job or career that deals with saving lives and helping people!

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:14pm

      This incident may not be answerable to mankind, BUT IT WILL WITH GOD ALMIGHTY ON JUDGEMENT DAY, and that day will be here soon.

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    • calikarla
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:24pm

      here‘s the direct website link if the videos don’t work for you here
      http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Rescuers-Stay-Dry-as-Man-Drowns-122944013.html

      this makes me heartsick

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    • avenger
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:45pm

      hey…it was his choice….

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    • JoeAmerica
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 5:46pm

      This is about budget cuts. This is what happens REPUBLICANS when you decide to cut the budgets of your first responders. If the money isn’t there how can you buy licenses and training? Seems if there is an emergency you should spend, no matter what.. cough cough at the Federal Government.

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    • old white guy
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 6:15pm

      ya, so much for the couragous firefighters. just another bucnh of union aholes.

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 6:44pm

      Someone should definitely be fired at least, jail for sure, and the city sued into oblivion…

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    • carnifex
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 7:45pm

      As a certified scuba diver I had to learn how to rescue a drowning person. It is extremely dangerous. The drowning person will do anything to keep above water, even if that includes drowning you. They teach us its best not to get close to the victim, use some object or a rope to keep your distance. In the last resort, approach the victim from behind so they can’t grab you. If you haven‘t had the training I don’t recommend it. Hard truth is that the first responders have families too. They did the right thing without the training. On the other hand, how was there no life guard or trained water rescuer in a city located ON THE OCEAN!!

      CHIVALRY–NOT ALL GIRLS LIKE IT. JUST THE ONES WORTH DYING FOR.

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    • carnifex
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 7:48pm

      I live in Louisville KY, ad we have a volunteer water rescue squad of police divers, and at least 1 police boat. How can a city located on the ocean not have at least that?

      CHIVALRY–NOT ALL GIRLS LIKE IT. JUST THE ONES WORTH DYING FOR.

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    • NOKOOLAIDDRINKER
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 8:19pm

      You got to remember this is San Francisco!!! I’m just saying.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on June 2, 2011 at 11:20pm

      @ opinionmonger….
      .Where does it states that ONE person who has obvious chose to die has to be recued?
      From what and by whom?
      …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
      If you have the ability to save a human life you must try. Paperpushermj General Rules of Life. Thats wear…….. Look it up.

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    • Rampart
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 12:04am

      Then again…If I lived in San Francisco, I think I’d wade on out to sea myself…And thank them all to just let me die.

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    • bombshelterbob
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 12:17am

      California is the poster child for the absolute need to restore honor, morality, intelligence to government. That asylum is the perfect example of socialism at work,

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    • foobear
      Posted on June 3, 2011 at 1:45am

      This is why we need lifeguards making $200k a year!

      Pfft.

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    • manuelbetten
      Posted on June 4, 2011 at 3:14pm

      I he does not want to live then why should we interfer?

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