Education

CA Senate Passes Bill Mandating Gay History in Public Schools

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — The state Senate has approved legislation that would require California’s public schools to include gay history in social studies lessons.

Supporters say the move is needed to counter anti-gay stereotypes and beliefs that make gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender children vulnerable to bullying and suicide.

Opponents said it would burden an already crowded curriculum and expose students to a subject that some parents find objectionable.

The bill, sponsored by Democratic Sen. Mark Leno of San Francisco, passed Thursday on a 23-14 vote. The measure now goes to the Assembly.

It leaves it up to local school districts to decide what to include in the lessons and at what grade students would receive them.

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  • mom4times
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:39pm

    @SNOWLEOPARD…..hey, can you give me a warning ahead of time…..I‘m stuck living in NY and I don’t wanna get hit :O

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  • mom4times
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:36pm

    I cannot wait for “The Big One” to hit CA. On another subject relating to schools. I was just helping my son with his ss homework and the question was to compare/contrast MalcomX to Martin Luther King Jr. The text book completely left out any reference to Islam with MalcomX…..actually made him sound like a Capitalist. It was only after reading the info online (provided by the publisher) that you find all the Islamic info on him. What is going on?????

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  • liberalsarealiens
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:36pm

    Not surprised at all! Think I’m gonna be sick!

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  • BrerRabbit
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:36pm

    Coming next…the history of people with red hair and a wart on their left toe ! Ridiculous!

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  • AllAmericanGirl22
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:34pm

    It’s official, I will never be visiting California, they got issues. And so do public schools, I attend a public school (and will soon start homeschooling next year) and the lies they teach there are amazing, it’s horrible, because all the kids believe it, but me, because they don’t know any better! This is just sad.

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    • lketchum
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:30pm

      Awesome! All praise and support to you and your courgeous parents!

      I put my kids through private Christian schools and it was the hardest thing I ever did. It cost so much, some days my wife and didn’t eat at all and for the first two years each month we ate pancakes for every meal. The kids all ate well, but the truth of it is there was too little left for us, and their kids’ growing brains needed the meat/protien. We were pretty creative – making sort of a home made syrup out of powdered sugar and the cheapest butter ever seen. While at first it was really rough, it sure was worth it to ensure the kids received a quality education. Three are done with college now, and the rest are working through their 2nd, 3 and 4th years.

      Honor your mom and dad for doing this for you – as I am sure you do. We are proud for you and your hard work!

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  • eat-more-bacon-USA
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:33pm

    This move is no surprise – California public schools gave up on educating children long ago – they are nothing more than liberal indoctrination centers and have been for quite some time.

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  • hightide
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:33pm

    Disgusting.

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  • tarpon
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:32pm

    So what are the great moments in gay history?

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:46pm

      Well lets see there is the famous bathroom hookups like Senator Larry Craig, George Michael, and then there was two Carolina Panthers cheerleaders arrested for having sex in a bathroom stall at a Tampa, FL nightclub. To make matters funnier, the club was named Banana Joe’s.

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    • CALMOM
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:53pm

      An answer to that question may take a long time. perhaps some day …..when they shut up and go back to the closet.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:06pm

      #1 the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
      #2 Roman Emperor Hadrian’s deification of his dead lover Antinous
      #3 the trial of Oscar Wilde
      #4 Ellen Degeneres comes out.
      That’s about all I can think of. . . .for now;)

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  • rettpr295
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:32pm

    Can there possible be a more screwed up group of people in the Universe. For the love of god, when is the quake going to hit that will detach California from our continent. Let it float out there on it’s own, let these liberal morons fund all of their social programs and don’t ever, ever, ever, ever let them back into the United States.

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  • seminolebri
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:28pm

    We are losing our Country. Things are spinning out of control to fast for the average American to realize what is truly going on.

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  • ryguy1985
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:28pm

    So what if a child refuses to learn it because it is not what he believes in? He fails? There can not be prayer in school, but there can be lessons on gay history? Kinda messed up, dont you think?

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  • rightplanet
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:27pm

    Can you imagine teaching the benefits of hard work and personal responsibility to the left?

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    • Mary M. Tebbe
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:36pm

      rightplanet: You mean the Mexican Phoenician/Canaanite/Hamites…the black Hamites…the Assyrian/Gothic Hamites…all on the left…Ah…no, I can’t imagine it.
      Sorry, but understanding the races as I do, having written extensively about them, I see the world in a different light and I just could not resist! None of them have a good work ethic, and all those entitlements cheapen them as a race and as a people. Just sayin’.

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  • Bobaroonie
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:27pm

    Let’s teach our kids all about adultery, beastiality, pornography and pedophilia too while we’re at it!

    Utterly amazing what is happening…we HAVE TO BE in the final days.

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    • Bigliardi
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:51pm

      I am sure all that you mentioned will be part of the curriculum….and of course NAMBLA will figure very prominently as well….

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    • ChristianLayman
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 12:17am

      Well technically, every act of sexual perversion or disordered desire falls under the sin of adultery according to Christ in the Gospels and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. I believe that most sane Protestant communities still follow some semblance of this, though it varies from denomination to denomination.

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  • Obama Snake Oil Co
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:26pm

    GOTEA, you forgot a very important category…The worst presidents in the history of the United States. Just think, Carter smiles now knowing that Obama has worst ratings than he did. Woodrow Wilson rolls in his grave and chuckles….A whole chapter devoted to the attemped overthrow of America, starring Oblamabush Oblongo…

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    • gotea
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:05pm

      I lived through Carter, maybe because I wasn’t paying the bills. Plant a big garden if ya want to eat.

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  • rightplanet
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:25pm

    Just more Leftist crap being shoved down our throats.

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  • Unbelievable
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:25pm

    Don’t teach our kids about our founding fathers but teach them about gay pride… Yep, that sounds about right!

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  • ares338
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:24pm

    Cork Soaker history? Well, dang me, dang me, oughtta take a rope and hang me.

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  • jnobfan
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:24pm

    Somehow they have money for this?
    Lets remember when they come for the “bailout”

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    • Robert-CA
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:33pm

      Yeah this will solve the $26 Billion deficit good job you loons in Sacramento .

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  • thetwilightzone
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:24pm

    If I had children in school now, they would be staying home while that subject was being taught.

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    • Bigliardi
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:59pm

      Can’t you just imagine the “experts” in the field of human sexual deviation that will be brought in to lecture…? I was on a cruise to Alaska, and we had a gay entertainer aboard…A screamingly gay guy, who pranced around the deck between shows wearing jeans, a brightly colored head scarf, high heels, lipstick, and a humongous fur coat…I was almost sick….Had my grand sons and grand daughters along…Call me naive, or unitiated, or a homophobe, or whatever…I was very embarrased and ashamed that my grandkids had to see this guy….

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    • anniyan428
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:38pm

      Definitely a homophobe. He’s different, so what? Black people look different, that doesn’t make them less of people.

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    • ChristianLayman
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 12:30am

      anniyan428 – The question isn’t about whether gays are somehow less human because of their decisions, so much as questioning the wisdom of people who seek to mainstream sexual immorality as being normal and playing on people’s over-self indulgences. This is generally applicable to ALL people, whether hetero- or homosexuals. For example, it wouldn’t matter if I had anal sex with another man or a woman because the act is intrinsically disordered and in violation of the function and intended purpose of sex. In any event, what reasonable person would attempt to place lust on equal scale with love, and furthermore, do people even understand the difference in our currently oversexualized culture?

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    • IM-UR-HUCKLEBERRY
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 12:47am

      @CHRISTIANLAYMAN: Very well said. Thank you.

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    • Bhaub
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 2:00pm

      ( I sincerely hope this comment is not removed, as ChristianLayman made a very good point concerning immorality. I’ll try not to be vulgar in explaining things.)

      @ChristianLayman,

      If the concern is purely anal sex, then what about homosexual men who simply do not have it? If two men fall in love and they never do more than kiss, then there is no problem?

      And while it can be argued that anal sex is the norm for two gay men, I think it‘s fascinating that it’s mostly heterosexual couples having it. I think we should direct our ire towards pornography and heterosexual couples equally- there are far more straight people having it.

      From Wikipedia (not a great source, I know, but easily referenced):

      “In terms of overall numbers of survey respondents, seven times as many women as gay men said that they engaged in anal intercourse, with this figure reflecting the larger heterosexual population size.[43] According to the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior (NSSHB), although anal intercourse is reported by fewer women than other partnered sex behaviors, partnered women in the age groups between 18-49 are significantly more likely to report having anal sex in the past 90 days.[44]”

      So, again, the issue is not homosexuality but anal sex. If Oscar Wilde is being taught in school, it would be very fair to explain that his homosexuality was a large part of his identity and important in relation to his place in history. I don’t think the teacher would be implying, “Anal sex is great!” by teaching that. He or she would be teaching that a literary figure was imprisoned for his orientation.

      Would that be a fair point to make on this issue? Though we may not agree with it, gay historical figures (as well as the gay and lesbian movements of more recent times themselves ) would certainly be mentioned and factor into the tale of the country we love. So long as the sexual acts themselves are not glorified, it should be acceptable, correct?

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  • Mary M. Tebbe
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:22pm

    Wow…my husband is a School Superintendent, and I doubt he’d ever let gay history be taught. We have trouble enough in the school system just getting the core curriculum subjects funded. We are becoming a disgrace as a society if we are now educating kids about perversion. Be careful…God is watching! He rained down fire and brimstone on the Phoenician/Canaanite cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. What makes people think he has changed his ideas about what is sin and what is not???!!!

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:35pm

      Mary M. Tebbe

      God hasn’t changed his mind about sin. AIDS! The poor people that get it through transfusions are unintended collateral damage. The gays and promiscuous people are the real targets.

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    • Thing
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:03pm

      God and collateral damages ?, i dont think so, hes almighty after all, he must have other reasons

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    • LadyLirpa
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:30pm

      LOL, do you hear yourself? You sound like a lunatic.

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    • Mary M. Tebbe
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:57pm

      ladylirpa: What part of that didn’t you understand?! It’s pretty self-explanatory.

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    • EP46
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 5:54am

      As a school superintendent would your husband go along with a curriculum that excluded certain children ? Muslim children who attend public schools will not be required to take this class will they?

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  • mike1119
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:21pm

    yea thay should teach ALL about the gay life style including aids at the bath houses and show the guy parades where all of them walk arount humping fire hydrents with the ass cut out of there leather pants…

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    • Professional Infidel
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:16pm

      I live in Palm Springs and have you ever been to a WHITE party??? 50,00 desend on the town for a week, just finished!!!

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    • BonnieBlueFlag
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:59pm

      They should teach the facts, for sure. They should warn the children that this 1-3% of the population (so-called ‘gays’) commit 33% of the child sex crimes in this country. That means a gay man is about 30x more likely to molest a child than a straight man. Common sense to those that have any, but backed up scientifically as well.

      http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS02E3

      @Professional Infidel:

      Didn’t the gay lobby in your town get your Sherriff fired for arresting homosexuals who commit lewd acts in the public park? I never knew Palm Springs was such a militant gay town until I read that. No offense to the normal folk that live there but I will never visit.

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  • Blazer334
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:17pm

    And this is why some of us feel that those few conservatives left in California should leave, and then we should all pray for a 9.5 quake to hit and sink California into the sea.

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    • AllAmericanGirl22
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:35pm

      Ohh, great idea! I’m with ya!

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    • Hope1620
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:32pm

      Blazer! I‘m one of those ’few’ [along with my family, born 'n raised], so let me get the ark built first! This started with imposing Harvey Milk Day on the schools, but it got diluted to being optional. This curriculum was ‘meant’ to be mandatory, but got diluted to optional as well. So you know Leno, Kheul, et al are gonna fight to shove it down our kid’s throat by any other means using our own laws, including continuing to push to overturn our Constitutional Marriage law. Gratefully, God’s laws NEVER change. http://revelationrainbow.com/

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    • TheBattleAxe
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:41pm

      How pro-life of you to suggest California get hit with a 9.5 magnitude earthquake which would likely kill thousands of people. Oh wait, I guess it’s okay because they have a different opinion than you.

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    • eddymunster
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 1:10pm

      Ya! I want to watch.

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  • gotea
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:16pm

    I thought it was against their values to talk about Sodom and Gomorrah in public schools. Next up Midget history, then Rodeo Clown history, followed by People who famously won on Jeopardy.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 2:28am

      Ding ding ding
      WINNER
      Post of the day !!!!!

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    • DocStrangelove
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:01am

      How about the history or ignorance?

      There could be a course solely based on YOU and the rest of the troglodytes on this thread.

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  • GONESURFING
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:17pm

    Good idea, everyone should learn about AIDS.

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    • DocStrangelove
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:09am

      For all of the THROWBACKS on this thread that are obviously so UNSURE of their own sexuality….

      ALL GAY.

      They don’t belong in a history class?

      Alexander the Great
      *Macedonian Ruler, 300 B.C.
      Socrates
      *Greek Philosopher, 400 B.C.
      Sappho
      *Greek Woman Poet, 600 B.C.
      Hadrian
      *Roman Emperor, 1st-2nd c.
      Richard the Lionhearted
      *English King, 12th c.
      Saladin
      *Sultan of Egypt and Syria
      Desiderius Erasmus
      *Dutch Monk, Philosopher
      Francis Bacon
      *English statesman, author
      Frederick the Great
      *King of Prussia
      Lord Byron
      *English poet, 18th c.
      Walt Whitman
      *U.S. poet, author, 19th c.
      Oscar Wilde
      *Irish author, 19th c.
      Marcel Proust
      *French author, 20th c.
      Colette
      *French author, 20th c.
      Gertrude Stein
      *U.S. poet, author, 20th c.
      Alice B. Toklas
      *U.S. author, 20th c.
      Federico Garcia Lorca
      *Spanish author, 20th c.
      Cole Porter
      *U.S. composer, 20th c.
      Virginia Woolf
      *English author, 20th c.
      Leonard Bernstein
      *U.S. composer, 20th c.
      Pope Julius III
      *1550-1555
      T.E. Lawrence
      *English soldier, author, 20th c.
      Jean Cocteau
      *French writer, director, 20th c.
      Charles Laughton
      *English actor, 20th c.
      Marguerite Yourcenar
      *Belgian author, 20th c.
      Tennessee Williams
      *U.S. Playwright, 20th c.
      James Baldwin
      *U.S. author, 20th c.
      Andy Warhol
      *U.S. artist, 20th c.
      Michelangelo
      *Italian artist, 15th c.
      Leonardo Da Vinci
      *Ital. Artist, scientist, 15th c.
      Christopher Marlowe
      *Eng. Playwright, 16th c.
      Herman Melville
      *U.S. author, 19th c.
      Horatio Alger, Jr.
      *U.S. author, 19th c.
      Tchaikovsky
      *Russian composer, 19th c.
      Willa Cather
      *U.S. author, 19th c.
      Amy Lowell
      *U.S. author, 19th & 20th c.
      E.M. Forster
      *English author, 20th c.
      John M. Keynes
      *English economist, 20th c.
      Ludwig Wittgenstein
      *Australian mathematician, 20th c.
      Bessie Smith
      *U.S. singer, 20th c.
      Noel Coward
      *English playwright, 20th c.
      Christopher Isherwood
      *English author, 20th c.
      Pier Paolo Pasolini
      *Italian film director, 20th c.
      Yukio Mishima
      *Japanese author, 20th c.
      Eleanor Roosevelt
      *U.S. stateswoman, 20th c.
      Julius Caesar
      *Roman Emperor, 100-44 B.C.
      Augustus Caesar
      *Roman Emperor
      Harvey Milk
      *U.S. politician, 20th c.
      Bayard Rustin
      *U.S. Civil Rights activist, 20th c.
      James I
      *English King, 16th-17th c.
      Queen Anne
      *English Queen, 18th c.
      Marie Antoinette
      *French Empress, 18th c.
      Melissa Etheridge
      *U.S. Rock Star, 20th c.
      Pope Benedict IX
      *1032-1044
      May Sarton
      *U.S. author, (1912 – 1995)
      Edna Ferber
      *U.S. author, 20th c.
      Elton John
      *English Rock Star, 20th c.
      Margaret Fuller
      *U.S. writer, educator, 20th c.
      Montezuma II
      *Aztec ruler, 16th c.
      Peter the Great
      *Russian Czar, 17th-18th c.
      Langston Hughes
      *U.S. author, 20th c.
      Pope John XII
      *955-964
      Madame de Stael
      *French writer, 17th-18th c.
      Martina Navratilova
      *U.S. tennis star, 20th c.
      Greg Louganis
      *U.S. Olympic swimmer, 20th c.
      Billie Jean King
      *U.S. tennis star, 20th c.
      Roberta Achtenburg
      *U.S. politician, 20th c.
      Barney Frank
      *U.S. Congressman, 20th c.
      Gerry Studds
      *U.S. Congressman, 20th c.
      Hans Christian Andersen
      *Danish author, 19th c.
      Tom Dooley
      *U.S. M.D. missionary, 20th c.
      J. Edgar Hoover
      *U.S. director of the FBI., 20th c.
      Frida Kahlo
      *Mexican artist, 20th c.
      Suleiman the Magnificent
      *Ottoman ruler, 15th c.
      Rock Hudson
      *U.S. actor, 20th c.
      Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz
      *Mexican author, 16th c.
      Ralph Waldo Emerson
      *U.S. author, 19th c.
      Candace Gingrich
      *Gay Rights activist, 20th c.
      Margarethe Cammermeyer
      *U.S. Army Colonel, 20th c.
      Zoe Dunning
      *U.S. Military Reservist, 20th c.
      Tom Waddel
      *U.S. M.D., Olympic star, 20th c.
      Kate Millet
      *U.S. author, 20th c.
      Janis Joplin
      *U.S. singer, 20th c.
      Rudolf Nuryev
      *Russian dancer, 20th c.
      Waslaw Nijinsky
      *Russian dancer, 20th c.
      Ernst Röhm
      *German Nazi leader, 20th c.
      Dag Hammerskjold
      *Swedish UN Secretary, 209th c.
      Aristotle
      *Greek philosopher, 384-322 B.C.
      Paula Gunn Allen
      *Native American author, 20th c.
      Angela Davis
      *U.S. political activist, 20th c.
      June Jordan
      *U.S. author, activist, 20th c.
      Rainer Maria Rilke
      *German poet, 20th c.
      James Dean
      *U.S. actor, 20th c.
      Montgomery Clift
      *U.S. actor, 20th c.
      Baron VonSteuben
      *German General, Valley Forge
      Edward II
      *English King, 14th c.

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    • AllAmericanG
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:41am

      What exactly is GAY history? Are they going back to ancient Rome and the um bedfellows that soldiers kept while in theater? How much time is CA devoting to the founding of our country and the great men that gave us the freedom to be idiots?

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 1:24pm

      Doc,
      Your list is laughable. You justy throw a list of names of anyone who someone somewhere might have said that that person possibly was gay, without a shred of evidence.

      Queen Anne was gay? She was married and had 5 children, but eighteen pregnancies.

      The filth that you gay propogandist throw out tarnishes all freindships by implying that they are evidence of homosexuality. You trade in rank rumor and sleaze. I’m pretty sure that is exactly the kind of putrid lies that will be taught.

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    • the_zazzy
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 1:29pm

      So that’s what DOCSTRANGELOVE means! I didn’t seen your name on that list. I don’t force my heterosexuality on you, quit forcing your lifestyle choice on me. I hope you enjoy your lifestyle, but just like aethists don’t want to hear about Christ…I don’t want to hear about your homosexuality.

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    • DocStrangelove
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 1:38pm

      THE_ZAZZY…

      I’m straight… and I’m TOLERANT unlike ignorant BIGOTS like yourself, dimwit.

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    • DocStrangelove
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 1:39pm

      ISLESFORDIAN…

      You don’t think gays marry and have children?

      You’re a JOKE.

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    • the_zazzy
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 2:26pm

      Let’s refrain from name calling, DOC! That seems to be your primary weapon throughout this thread. Just because I don’t want to hear about it does not make me a BIGOT. That is the problem with your mentality. Do you think the CA schools should give equal time to Bible study as it is going to give to gay history? If not, you must be a BIGOT. Liberals think that bigotry can only be against blacks, gays, etc. Not so, my friend and BIGOT!

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    • SonOfaCommunist
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 4:55pm

      DocStrangelove – Can you provide a historical list of all that practiced beastiality, necrophilia and/or paraphilia? Why stop at homosexual history?

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    • KOCHLEFFEL
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 4:59pm

      Docstrangelove,
      Thanks, you did an excellent job, unfortunately I doubt most of these BLAZE writers do not recognize any of these people you mentioned.

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    • the_zazzy
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 5:24pm

      KOCHLEFFEL
      You used a double negative, but never mind that. I’m sure all of the Blaze writers/readers know who those people are on his list. But, how does knowing who Barney Frank is and that he is gay strenthen the argument that gay history needs to be taught in our public schools? If you knew that Waslaw Nijinsky was a 20th century Russian dancer, perhaps your name belongs on that list too.

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    • KOCHLEFFEL
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:02am

      ZAZZY,
      Thanks for correcting my error, have to be more careful. No, my name is not on that list, the only list my name is on is called the s–t list.
      By the way , Diaghilev was the lover(for a short while) of Nijinsky. Correct me if I am wrong.

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  • Obama Snake Oil Co
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:16pm

    Yep, California…is hell bound…did they vote for this…of course not, it wouldn’t have passed. Here is your gay lesson…If you practice this lifestyle, there is a pretty good chance you will get AIDs. It is more dangerous than smoking cigarettes or going to war…

    Obama Snake Oil Co  
    • T-2
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:15pm

      if there were a vote, it would be over turn by the court….

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:18pm

      If you are in Calif get out now!

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    • Happy Killmore
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:22pm

      Two words for Californians: home school.

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    • and to the republic
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:23pm

      did Kobe Bryant have any say on this???

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    • starchy
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:25pm

      AS much as I disagree with the policy, saying it is dangerous is just wrong. Remember “Personal Responsibility”? Gay and lesbians can be responsible just as well as anyone else. That being said, this would be one more reason my daughter wont be attending public schools….

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    • sleazyhippo
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:26pm

      Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
      What do they think this is, Texas?

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:27pm

      Why would ANYONE besides the illegals send their children to public school in CA? Mine would be out so fast !!!

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    • avenger
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:27pm

      sure..tell the kids it was a disease in the 1960 & 1970″s until the homosexual lobby spent millions to clean it up ! the law of nature is very clear,species develop and perpetuate their survival.the weak die off or are killed in nature.the only purpose of a species is to propagate and survive.this is not about religion,this is about natural of the planet/universe. so tell me how homosexuals/lesbians adhere to natural law.

       
    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:29pm

      Obama Snake Oil Co

      Agreed! I wonder if they will actually mention that living the gay/lesbian lifestyle is more dangerous because of AIDS than playing Russian Roulette with a 357 Magnum or joining the military and going to Afghanistan? You can survive the later but AIDS WILL kill you!

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    • starchy
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:31pm

      @ AVENGER
      Unfortunately gay parents don’t have gay children (kinda tough when you don’t have the right tools)
      Propagating the planet or not, they will still exist

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:33pm

      Is there any way we can just put all the countries progressives, commies, and socialists in CA and send it out to sea as an island next to China or such. Maybe even just give it to them in exchange for our debt they own being cancelled?

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:34pm

      There is one thing I have come to figure upon, is that if the day comes the Lord Almighty brings down His wrath and judgment fully on this nation, look for it to begin in DC, CA, and NY. We have three full areas worse than anything Sodom and Gomorra combined would be.

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:37pm

      History lesson…u sure gotta purdy mouth….

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:38pm

      FACEPALM!

      (mandatory lower case text)

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    • Creestof
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:39pm

      I’d like them to have a class called…”Where will you be in 20 years and what path will you take to get there!”

      It would be a class for girls only. Designed to show adventurous lifestyles of famous women…adventures which would not have come to pass had they fallen into drugs/alcohol/baby making.

      Message being…”Hey Susy, would you rather party and spread your legs for every “dime a dozen” boy with a good line, wind up pregnant, tattooed, wearing spandex and living in a trailer park? Or would you rather explore the world and accomplish extraordinairy things…and when you are ready to settle down and have kids…then you can make that choice without giving everything else up.”

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:41pm

      Nice, we can teach gay history, but how many young teen mush brains out there know what’s in the Constitution or what it means, or what our fore fathers wrote in the Federalist Papers. Gay history, but no AMERICAN history. No wonder our country is going to crap.

      We are destroying ourselves. Now you union thug teachers go out and teach all our youngins about how much gay history means to our country and forget about all those oldsters that pledged their lives, fortunes and sacred honor so you could one day teach all about gay sex.

      I may just move to Costa Rica and get away from this freak show soon.

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    • cognitivedissonance
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:42pm

      Hey guys, did you know I was home schooled? Seriously I was, not only that, my parents are loving, conservative, born again Christians and I still turned out to be a liberal, gay-rights loving socialist. If you want to keep your children from learning different values different from your own, I would recommend just locking them in the basement.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:43pm

      lol@ watchtheotherhand who found the change name feature.

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    • BIGJAYINPA
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:45pm

      Inasmuchas this is the 150th anniversary of Ft. Sumpter, Do you think we could get California to secede in celebration?? I for one could do with a few less liberal-progresive states in my Union. Unfortunately I think my state (Pa) is not to far behind those toads on th left coast. Maybe Gov Corbett can save us maybe he can’t. Dear Lord, Once again I pray to You. Either lead us in Your path or smite us…Your call…Amen

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:47pm

      The actual full story goes into much more detail, it’s on Drudgereport.com .
      is it only me, or is the only thing they don’t teach in schools Jesus?

       
    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:48pm

      @ TROLL ……sometimes you just gotta have a little fun and laugh. I am in one of those moods today. If I didn‘t laugh I think I would probably start cryin’ at the news sometimes. Keep smilin’ my friend.

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:52pm

      BIGJAYINPA

      Yeah I heard one of your Mayors thought it’s a good idea to send 11 year old kids Condoms in the mail free. What next?

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    • Obama Snake Oil Co
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:53pm

      Blackhawk1, unfortunite, but true. If you look up San Franscisco HIV/AIDS…its easy to see why they have no money and are in debt. I just think its funny when I see they ban smoking yet support gay behavior and smoking pot. You might just as well promote texting while driving too….diving from bridges….when the day is done and the question is asked; what did he die of? California lifestyle…..

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:56pm

      Just give them their own restroom and segregate them. They want to feel special, but get offended when you point out their “gay-ness.”

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:57pm

      Ever heard of “Sodom and Gomorrah”? Really? Last thing they’d want to do in California is to please God!

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    • Creestof
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:00pm

      @cognitivedissonance
      Most kids rebel against their parents beliefs and authority…you just took it a few steps further by becoming a non-procreating, sexual deviant, lacking the desire to make it on your own…and expect others to do the same.

      All of this stems from a lack of faith in our creator. For a long time the liberals have dumbed down our Lords teachings in order to make our failings in life “OK”…they are not OK…and we will one day be called to answer for them.

      At a time in a childs formative years, when he/she is impressionable and exploring their beliefs and opinions…why encourage them to stroll down the wrong path by having them attend “Tutti Fruiti 101”?

      If there is a “gay gene” or whatever you want to call it (I don’t believe there is) then they’ll become rump riders soon enough on their own. They don’t need some class or teacher saying “Hey kids, look at this and know that is OK to do!” …Because it isn’t.

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    • hauschild
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:11pm

      How lucky California’s children must feel today!!!

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    • unsalvageable.org
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:11pm

      @cognitivedissonance

      I am a conservative Christian that has a gay son and I would NEVER let any of my children attend a school that teaches a “gay history”

      We have lost our way America, turn back now before it’s to late!

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    • AKMIIKEUS
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:24pm

      I think there is one thing we can all agree on is that when it comes to Hate, the Blazers are #1.

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    • gramma b
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:31pm

      While we’re at it, why not “History of Intergenerational Love” (as the pedophiles like to call it,“ or ”History of Interspecies Love,” (a euphemism for bestiality), or “History of Incest, Necrophilia, Fetishism . . . , ” you name it? Why not provide for early exposure and desensitization of our innocent children to every form of perversion? After all, every one of “God’ children” engaging in these acts has a rationale and feels justified.

      This is sickening.

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    • lemmings4obama
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:58pm

      Home schooling in CA is about to spike…

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    • Islesfordian
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:06pm

      Here’s my idea for a Constitutional amendment;

      Public schools may not teach any child a single thing that has not been approved by the parents of that child. Lazy parents can sign a blank waiver, but parents who actually might care how their children’s mind might be poisoned in school can insist on approving every lesson, subject and textbook.

      This would force schools to get back to non-controversial basics.

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:11pm

      Well, swell for California. The land of fruits & nuts.

      I wondered if these “intellectuals” considered for a second that if they present this topic and way of life to school children, that they’ll also have to explain why this lifestyle is considered an abomination, subject to teasing, tormenting, and possibly suicide.

      Eventually, God and religion enter in to the discussion. No way to avoid it. What comes after that, you say?????? Something about separation of church & state……????

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    • AKMIIKEUS IS MY COUSIN AND MY SPOUSE
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:13pm

      I don’t hate you cuz…..I mean sweetie……eh either one works. Love ya baby …I mean cuz…..

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    • niterider
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:15pm

      Smoking cigs is against the law in a number of towns on the beach, parks and even sidewalks. As to going to war, well, that is out too…as the number of colleges refuse to allow ROTC or recruiters on campus is skyrocketing. But since California is going down the tubes in every moral or freedom arena because of the far left swing on this the left coast, this news about “gay history” is no news and probably sponsored by the CTA (California Teachers Association).

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    • AKMIIKEUS IS MY COUSIN AND MY SPOUSE
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:16pm

      Ya know sweetie I was thinkin’…………..Do you think CA would require Muslims to take courses about………..Pork, the other white meat ????????

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:22pm

      That’s so Gay.

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    • JayCee
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 6:42pm

      Gay History?
      Kookifornia is a foreign country.

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    • survivorseed
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:09pm

      And theres your stereotype.

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    • Deda1
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:10pm

      They can tell u what not to drink, eat, smoke or take because it is bad for you and could run up the health care cost but you can bugger each other and need treatment for a host of diseases the rest of us are suppose to pay for. Go figure.

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    • bassbone12000
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:16pm

      I just can’t believe that we are so focused on teaching certain things in schools. How about letting the students learn essentials (math, reading, writing, music, p.e., history, etc.) with no political agenda, instead of teachers and schools officials deciding what needs to be taught, that has a political agenda?

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    • DisillusionedDaily
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:31pm

      And they wonder why people move away from the left coast paradise!

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    • OhmEye
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:00pm

      Although I realize I’ll probably end up on the same terrorist watch list as military veterans and fundamentalist christians, I’ve got to say this. I see a simple solution to 90%+ of the foolishness we are witnessing in this country. We need to require all public servants to submit to a drug and alcohol testing program. Since our government administrators, representatives and court justices are clearly in “safety-sensitive” positions, it is only fitting that we put them through pre-employment drug screening and random testing. These people would certainly have to pee in a cup after their “reasonable suspicion” episodes.

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    • ruffnex
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:02pm

      I’m not surprised…since the Unions elected Gov. Moonbeam!

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    • Professional Infidel
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:11pm

      sent my kids to private school, perhaps the immigrants and Iranians where they dont have gays, could use it

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    • HUGGINGMYBABIES
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:42pm

      If it were my school, I’d say handing the seniors a pamphlet along with their diploma would fill the requirements. Another good reason to homeschool or private school your child.

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    • mrsmileyface
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:48pm

      Here you want your gay history? I can sum it up in a few sentances so you dont need to waste any more time or money on the subject. In the begining there was nothing. Then GOD got lonely and made animals and finally Man. Then GOD made woman for Man but the Man didnt dig the woman so he made another man for him to be with. One day Adam said to Steve I wonder what we can do with these things between our legs. And Steve came up with a wonderful idea. He noticed that there was a hole in the back end of both of them that excrement comes out of. And thought what goes out must be able to put in. And so GAY history was made when Steve put his penis inside of Adams excrement hole. And they both thought it was good. The end.

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    • HUGGINGMYBABIES
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:57pm

      @MRSMILEYFACE……..you appear to be over qualified to teach. Excellent summation.

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    • frodis
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:01pm

      Transgender? Spare us.

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    • WhiteTeaParty
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:10pm

      @Snow Leopard

      If God was handing out punishments for what happens in the privacy of our own homes then you would be at the free clinic and at the front of the line.

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    • jzs
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:41pm

      This is a waste of money. To learn about gay history, all you have to do is read the newspapers. Example: Republicans like Larry – wide stance – Craig. Or Republican evangilists like Ted Haggard. Students should just read political news if they want learn about homosexuality. There are the Democrats who don’t care what people do in private, and there are Republicans who in public support family values, and vehemently hate homosexuality while the cheat on their wives (Gingrich) and have trysts with muscular guys in hotels.

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    • exdem
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:48pm

      Whats next?? The boys have to come to school dressed like girls and the girls like boys to understand what it feels like to be ostracized when your gay??? I wouldn’t put it past some of these loons we have as teachers like the one with the slave auction. I need to seriously check into home schooling.

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 12:06am

      I find this quite revolting. The wife and I have scratched-off California as one of those states to visit before we end up in a retirement home (in about another 50 years). There is NOTHING in that state we want to see or do.

      Be a part of “the” grassroots Tea Party event of 2011, with all 50 state’s Tea Party and 9.12 groups attending… http://www.americasteapartynews.com/freedomjamboree.php

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    • WHITETEAPARTYS GRANDPAPPY
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 12:28am

      I had to take that grandchild of mine out of clinic line oncte……..Kid done went and got the critters after bein’ on the wacky weed at that commie college he went to……Should just let that army nurse give em a good hosin’ down……..

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 12:41am

      @JZS

      My, you’re felling a little teste today, huh?

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 2:02am

      Governments like this one are turning me against gay people. I personally don’t have a problem with them living the life they want to live, but I DO HAVE A VERY BIG PROBLEM WITH ANY GOVERNMENT RAMMING IT DOWN MY THROAT AND FORCING PEOPLE TO ACCEPT IT.

      Time for RECALL PETITIONS TO GET THESE LOSERS OUT OF OFFICE.

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    • DocStrangelove
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 8:55am

      You’re an IDIOT.

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    • the_zazzy
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 1:58pm

      Let’s refrain from name calling! Just because I don’t want to hear about it does not make me a BIGOT. That is the problem with your mentality. Do you think the CA schools should give equal time to Bible study as it is going to give to gay history? If not, you must be a BIGOT.

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    • OneofMany
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 11:24pm

      yeah, even though I live here, this state’s leftist activism is known all over the world. We voted for Prop 8. Marriage is for man and woman (only) we won, twice! What do they do, they take it to the activist, left wing judge who strikes it down as unconstitutional… then when he gets caught and asked why he didn’t dismiss himself from the case because of bias, he says he saw no bias that would not allow him to judge properly… WT?? Give me a break… ONLY in California…

      If it weren’t for a blended family and custody issues, we would NOT be living here.

      We do have both our kids in private Christian school where it is OK to read the bible, Honor God and then Ten Commandments…etc…so we don’t have to deal with the puss that oozes from the poison filled classrooms of California Activist School System.

      My kids (at private Christian School ) learn BOTH world views… the Creation World View and the Everything From Nothing World View (a.k.a. Evolution – never observed, but often quoted )

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    • Dyllon
      Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:18am

      Quite a lot of nonsense has been posted on this comment board, so I’d like to take the time to eliminate some of it.

      First of all, what divine right is bestowed upon parents that they have absolute authority to determine what values their children have, and would therefore have the right to determine what should not be taught in school. I specifically say not taught in school since I would assume that everything should be taught in school unless there is a reason not to do so. From a Utilitarian perspective of education, that idea would be utter nonsense. From what I have observed in my own experiences, home schooling at best gives a person a decent education while hindering their people skills, and at worst home schooling indoctrinates children into false presumptions, quack science, and harmful ideologies. Therefore, I think that before anyone decides to home school their children due to their disagreements with the curriculum, they should think long and hard about whether what they are doing will be beneficial to the children or not from as objective a viewpoint as possible, and that they should also question whether it is ethical for them to shelter their children from “dangerous idea,” which in my opinion is the worst kind of censoring. If one truly believes that something like evolution, gay rights, socialism, etc. is being taught in a biased manner in school, one should teach what one believes is the correct perspective, and if it’s true, then children will accept what is said because no untruth can bear the brunt of the equivalent truth. So, in essence, I disagree with the entire basis of homeschooling on the grounds that its manipulative, counterproductive to education, and harmful to society as a whole.

      In regards to whether homosexuality is ethical for Christians, I say that it is non sequitur to say that it is sinful to be homosexual (at least in regards to people of a predominately homosexual sexual orientation). Jesus was completely about love. In Matthew 22:34-40, Jesus even declares that the entire basis of the law was to love God and to love thy neighbor as thyself. How, then, can one say that homosexual people should live without love, or that one should not love and appreciate homosexual people? As empirical evidence, I’ve seen dozens of homosexual people who have lost their way with God not because of their homosexuality, but because of the presumption that homosexuality is not alright with Jehovah. Furthermore, these people express far more love for their fellow mankind than I’ve ever seen from many self-proclaimed Christians (see Westboro Baptist Church for one thing). I don‘t believe that it’s really necessary to go into how homosexuality is not a choice, but I feel that many are misguided in this regard. The APA has said that it is not a choice and that it is not a mental disorder (I’ll explain later the reasoning for this decision) which I believe is grounds enough to accept such a proposition. Furthermore, to supply my own anecdotal evidence, I’ve had no issue overcoming masturbation, soda drinking, thinking negative thoughts about people, etc. but I’ve yet to succeed in overcoming my “homosexual tendencies,” despite investing far more time in effort than any of the aforementioned sins/bad habits. To me, saying that one is merely tempted to be homosexual is like saying that one is merely tempted to eat and that people have food eating tendencies (in regards to eating in general, not specifically overeating). So, therefore, I see no reasonable grounds for supporting the proposition that homosexuality is at all a sin, in either regards to the orientation or the actions involved for a homosexually oriented person. How can you say that it is wrong to love when Jesus said it was wrong for one to not love?

      As I stated earlier, the APA’s DSM-IV does not classify homosexuality in and of itself as a mental disorder by definition. For a behavior to be classified as a disorder, it must be atypical, disturbing, maladaptive, and unjustifiable. The crux of the issue for homosexuality lies in the disturbing criteria (when it says disturbing, it means for the individual, of course, not for society). While sometimes homosexuality can disturb an individual (which, incidentally, is a mental disorder) homosexuality is not in and of itself disturbing to homosexual individuals. Furthermore, I’d compare conversion therapy to going to China for some incredibly rare, expensive cure that might not even work when one could much more easily take an Aspirin and be perfectly fine the next day. According to the APA, studies regarding conversion therapy have had mixed results, and almost all of the studies coming out with any significant number of “changed,“ patients had some sort of issue with defining ”changed,” defining who was homosexual, etc. For instance, one study defined being cured as being physically capable of engaging in heterosexual sex. Well, of course such a study would turn out results, but the individual could just as well not WANT to engage in heterosexual sex while being capable of it. Why, then, is so much time spent on curing homosexuality when the only disorderly part of homosexuality could most likely be fixed with gay-affirmative therapy, which has been shown to actually be successful (and has far less chance for psychological damage than conversion therapy).

      @Avenger- What you describe is quackery of the worst kind. You would, it seems, favor killing off or at least sterilizing those with a moderately low IQ, disabled people (when the disability is genetic), and those with lower athletic ability since such things are also maladaptive and hurtful to society. Sadly, this is not a reductio ad absurdum argument since you yourself precisely described eugenics without actually using the vocabulary term.

      @Snowleopard- You would do well to remember that God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son to die for our sins. The key idea there is that the world is a horrible, sinful place and always has been. Therefore, I think it’s very unlikely that God will reign down destruction on America for its relatively minor sins. In fact, if God did decide to smite America, it would most likely be because of America’s greediness, hatefulness to the poor, aversion to welfare programs for the poor, and general dislike of other people rather than some silly thing like teaching gay history in schools.

      As a final word, I would like to say that while I perhaps don’t think too much time should be given to gay history (just as I think we shouldn‘t overemphasize woman’s history or black history), it’s not being taught at all as things currently stand in school. The Stonewall Riots, which were to gay people what the Emmancipation Proclamation was for slaves, wasn’t even mentioned once in my history class. When I went to look up the Stonewall Riots, it wasn’t even mentioned in my history text book. Mind you, this was AP American History, so it should have been thorough enough to at least mention the riots. Furthermore, it’s often glossed over that homosexuality was quite an open, common thing in Ancient Greece and Rome. Here’s a small list (a much more thorough list has already been given)- Socrates, the first of philosophers; Alexander the Great, one of mankind’s greatest military leaders; Vergil, one of the greatest Roman poets; Michelangelo, one of the Renaissance’s greatest artists; and Catallus (bisexual), another and great Roman poet.

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