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Cain, Romney & Gingrich Wrangle With Question of Muslims Serving in Government

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  • GodsDotr
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:32pm

    I would have to say that Newt Gingrich won the debate on that question. Would I vote for him? I don’t know.

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    • sbenard
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 1:15am

      I thought so too. But I still have serious doubts about him.

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    • Robert Hawk
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 5:27am

      Newt is a smart man. And he knows the system in Washington quite well. He also knows history and is not afraid to stand up for what he believes in, even if its not popular opinion. Herman is the same way and to some extent so is Michelle. The rest of the candidates I found to be wishy washy politicians who vacillate back and forth based on the latest poll.

      No candidate is perfect, therefore the real test is would you vote for Newt or Obama? Herman or Obama? Michelle or Obama? … and so on with the rest of the field. Is there really any difference in Romney and Obama? Obama is a zealot Stoic and Romney is a liberal Stoic. Your not really getting anything different.

      There were only four people on that stage who were not Stoics Newt, Herman, Michelle and Ron. The rest you could throw into the political washer with democrats and could not tell the difference. Stoics are all the same, its simply the fact of Zealot vs Liberal. Stoic doctrine is the base doctrine of all Communism, Socialism, Progressivism and Liberation Theology.
      The Apostle warned you about Stoicism. He ran into the Stoics while in Athens (Acts 17) and warned of allowing their doctrine of Greek philosophy to “spoil” (deceive) Christians (Colossians 2:8). The Greek word philosophy is only used two times in the bible (Acts 17 and Colossians 2). Paul intended for Christians to focus on the Stoic doctrine of philosophy, so they could not be deceived by it.

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  • stevoschmidt
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:27pm

    ron paul is educating the nation

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  • stevoschmidt
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:19pm

    ending the federal reserve. ron paul is the only candidate that really understands history. e4

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  • miles from nowhere
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:16pm

    No Muslims in congress, there religion is a cult of the worse kind.

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  • candcantiques
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:11pm

    I HAVE AN OPINION !!! Who doesn’t. I haven’t read a nyones comments on purpose. I am watching CNN right now and hating life. My views of what was said does not reflect AT ALL what they are saying. I do not know what others are saying here. Mitt Romney played well. How many times has he done this now? I wonder why. I prefer to see those that havent done this before. I like Bachmann, I trust her, but she just isnt ready. She ducked 2 questions early. If you dont think so ok.

    I am just starting to watch it again in case I missed something. who impressed me? Rick Santorum and believe it or not Newt. I cant even believe that one. I liked Pawlenty because it seemed as if he didnt care what others though. That also means he doesnt have a chance. I like Paul, Smart as hell. I dont agree with everything he says but most I do. He isnt electable though. He isnt Presidential. Cain, Great businessman. Also a former member of the FED. VERY WELL REHEARSED. I dont like the FED or REHEARSED. I agree lower business taxes, he doesnt talk about loopholes for business though. I dont believe in doing things half way though. Get rid of the loopholes for business and lower business taxes. My opinion. Those who did best wont be talked about at all or very little. REMEMBER THE FED CONTROLLS THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS AND ALL MEDIA MUST BE A PART OF THE COUNCIL !!!!!!! The threats. Santorum and Gingrich. That, in that order, if nobody else enters the race, would be my ticket.

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    • wodiej
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 3:29am

      Santorum? Couldn’t even win his own state. Gingrich can’t keep his pants on and his wife is a spendthrift. Didn’t pay his staff while he took a vacation to Greece. Yeah, just what we need…not.

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  • caprica
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:09pm

    islam muslims are blind primitive cult ….anyone who is raised in mulims sharia law is brainwashed – mentally limited ……..that person is never going to be civilized !

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:27am

      I love your sweeping generalizations. It makes you sound so educated and logical.

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  • voxoffreedom
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:08pm

    Five years ago I’m in DC consulting with a government architect. My appt. ran late past lunchtime, suddenly I hear what sounds like arabic being spoken. Twenty some arabs walk by. The architect closed the door and told me how they are taking over our government from inside out. I was shaken by what he said to me. Americans don’t want to hear it but we only have ourselves to blame. Abortion has killed over 40 million potential citizens, their empty shoes are being filled by our enemies……

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  • Bennie Franklin
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:03pm

    Hey Newt…how about the infiltrators we have in the white house and the justice department?

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  • caprica
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:01pm

    We don’t want any mulims in our USA government ! end of conversation… they are not to be trusted…..they are islam cult! and anyone who is practicing mulim fait is fanatic and servant to mulim cult islam !

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:08am

      What makes Islam a cult?

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:09am

      I don’t agree with that belief system, but I’m wondering how you arrived at your conclusion?

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    • walkwithme1966
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:59am

      You do know that we have a Muslim currently in the Congress!!!

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 7:25am

      Since Let Us Reason asked you what makes Isam a cult, here is an answer. A cult is a group of people whose religious practices are considered abnormal or bizarre. I would say that since there are filmings inside of mosques on how they teach their children from the age of walking and talking to hate infidels (anyone not muslim) and are taught how to be suicide bombers, would be abnormal and bizarre. They also use mind control and are authoritarian in the worst way. Think the cutting off of Nick Bergs head while holding him down with 5 men , with a crude knife as he screamed. How about the parents of the suicide bombers who are so elated that their child is in heaven for murdering. Wow..if that’s not a freaken cult, I don’t know what is!!!

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  • American_Woman
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:59pm

    To fight creaping Sharia Law, join Brigitte Gabriels ACTforAmerica.org NOW!

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    • AmeriCat
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 6:50am

      Thank you. We must open our eyes…and not look away.
      “They Must Be Stopped,” by Brigitte Gabriel.
      “Now The Call Me Infidel. Why I Renounced Jihad,”
      ….by Nonie Darwish, a Muslim Shahid’s daughter.

      And some here are referring to this book,
      “A God Who Hates,” by Wafa Sultan.
      Regarding this book, Geert Wilders says,
      “We must defend our precious liberties, our Western freedom…”

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  • American_Woman
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:56pm

    Gingrich answered correctly.
    Cain was weak on his answer; stand firm in your beliefs Herman!
    Can’t stand Rico Suave Romney!

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    • NuffSaid
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:08pm

      Yeah what if Herman had just stood by his words? “I would not appoint a Muslim.” Is he running for President or Director of Sales and marketing. Newt makes sense. I hope Herman;s got a presidential frog in his poket.

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:29am

      @ nuffsaid

      A “frog in his pocket”? Sounds like a euphemism for passing gas. Not sure how that would play out in the debates.

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  • flevan
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:36pm

    “Quesion”???
    Who hired a lib?

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  • ashestoashes
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:34pm

    Way to go Newt Gingrich!!!!! You said the truth and brought up past history in doing so. For those who forget history are bound to reapeat it. Muslims are populating at insane speeds and their purpose is to be the one world religion. Be it or die. I’m for religious tolerance, but I have no respect for a religion who does not tolerate other religions. Oh and by the way, Islam does promote lying to further its goals. They can be your friend outwardly, but inwardly they are to despise you.. Islam, the religion of hatred and murder. .sweet.

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    • chips1
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:51pm

      How’s this sound? We could get all the Muslim women pregnant before they do. It wouldn’t be the first time I used a grocery bag.

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  • Veritas
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:25pm

    Newt is not my man for president, but he got that answer spot on!

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  • Seek4facts
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:22pm

    Great debate! Everyone made a good points but Mitt Romney is the “Big Winner” on this debate.

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    • the hawk
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:56pm

      Nope everything Ron Paul said was George Washington Reincarnated !

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  • TheRealElvis
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:20pm

    CNN showed their biased AZZ during this debate like you wouldn’t believe. Compare it to a democratic debate. Wow, where are we in this country?

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  • vGoodrum
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:18pm

    Sharia law is already creeping into our system. Example…sharia loans are now available in America. If we don’t fight this now…we will more sharia law before we know it.

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    • AmeriCat
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 6:33am

      Sharia Finance is the portal for all of Sharia to enter a country.

      Why did they work so hard to save the banks?…..especially AIG???
      Sharia Finance!

      “Stealth Jihad” and “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam.”
      Both by Robert Spencer and both excellent!.

      “Unholy Alliance. Radical Islam and the American Left,”
      David Horowitz, another brilliant author, speaker.

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  • Ashley
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:10pm

    Romney answered incorrectly and gave the “Politically Correct” answer. If anyone believes that Sharia Law is not a real threat is in total denial of the radical islamic threat to America. This is what they believe and they BELIEVE they can impose Sharia Law on America. And, we already of Sharia Law “creep” in the court systems and, if left unrechecked, due to being politically correct, America is in big trouble. Hemain Cain answered 100% correctly!

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    • PerniciousD
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:37pm

      Cain blew Romney away. If 2008 says anything its that the man upstairs didn’t see fit to have a Mormon in the White House. Not that Romney isn’t qualified. Just God isn’t ready to give the rights and responsibilities of the Presidency to a Mormon, not yet. Maybe its a curse that the Mormon church is under right now, but it may change in the future. Kind of ironic. Black President before LDS President. Ouch. What happened? Anyways, hopefully in time for 2012 election. But I won’t be suprised to see Cain overtake Romney in polls. I think there needs to be a come to Jesus moment for the mormon church before God bestows certain blessings.

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    • sbenard
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 1:13am

      Pernicious, you certainly chose the right name for yourself. You are the most bigoted person here, and you weren’t even in the debate. You relentlessly bear false witness against Romney and all other members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, which you call the “Mormons”. Even in using that word you bear false witness, since that is NOT the name of the Church, nor of its members. But that tells us where you receive your inspiration from — the Father of Lies!

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:21am

      PERNICIOUSD….Honestly, look at yourself. Do you really see a good Christian? Do you really think….and I mean sincerely…..that God looks down at people like you when you’re spewing hatred and bigotry and smiles? Instead of thinking of a clever comeback, or trying to flip the questions on me, or simply deviating into another tirade, I encourage you to pause, take your hands off your keyboard for a second, and spend a few quiet moments in genuine introspection. Let it go, my friend, let it go. In a time in our history when the love of mankind seems to waning, we need to all purge ourselves of hatred and anger. Not sure why you feel like you have this personal crusade, but you would be wise to focus your energies and emotions in a more healthy, constructive, and beneficial way. We don’t have to agree, but “if we don’t hang together, we will all assuredly hang separately.”

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    • PerniciousD
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 6:52am

      LetUsReason,

      I really believe Romney would be a good President. Far better than the social conservatives and tea party nuts who have been ranting for the past two years. I also believe the Mormon church has fed its members lies over time and that it is a fraud. Mormons don’t know their history. go read journal of discourses. Its been buried by the church because its full of crazy statements by past prophets. I have known too many people who were ostracized by family and friends when they tried to leave. Would you let your children leave without a fight? Its an institution that worries so much about public perception it is dishonest about the size of its membership. The insitution doesn’t have the integrity to apologize for its past racist doctrine or even to admit it was wrong. But the worst is its claim to have a living prophet, who told members “when the prophet speaks the thinking is done.“ When individuals relinquish their spiritual journey in this life to the control of a ”living prophet” they have fallen into the hands of evil. The last thing God wants is for us to follow man.

      You should consider whether a burning in the bosom trumps all information to the contrary – translations, facsimiles, kinderhook, polygamy kept secret. if it does, what about people around the world that had a burning in the bosom for a different faith.

      But I do like JCANNON98188. Out of respect for his honesty, PerniciousD signs off forever.

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  • NOBALONEY
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:09pm

    What’s wrong with the asking of questions? El Al does it in screening its flight passengers. Besides extremeists, there are socialists and communists that have been staff members of the Obama admiistration. They weren’t properly vetted or questioned. These individuals wouldn’t have gotten passed the west gate in any of the previous administrations. Also, the State Department needs a complete shakeup.

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  • Texas Grasshopper
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:04pm

    romminy is living in a dream world …….dang no Moslems in the Admin. why is that so hard to say ..thank god bless america …see I said it and nothing happened to me ….aww crap ..just kidding ..I am still here ..

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    • PerniciousD
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:12pm

      Because Romney is Mormon. Mormons and Muslims have more in common. They both believe in Prophets instead of relying directly on Jesus Christ. They both believe in lying to advance their faith. Link above for muslims. For Mormons google “lying for the lord.” Scary stuff.

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    • Hula Calhoun
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:08pm

      PerniciousSD: Did the google search. It is scary. It’s like how the muzlims believe it is okay to lie to infidels.

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:04am

      PERNICIOUSD is getting really scared that a Mormon might be elected president. Uh oh! As for lying for the truth, you’re out of your mind. 13th Article of Faith begins, “We believe in being honest”. It simply isn’t true and there are many examples in Church history that can back up my claim. Anti-Mormons will go to amazing lengths to conjure up as much fear and suspicion against Mormons as possible, all the while screaming “Believe in Christ the way I believe, or it means you don’t believe in him” as well as screeching, “We’re doing this out of love for you.” The attacks are old, and the attackers are many. While there may be similarities between Mormonism and Islam, there are also similarities between Mormonism and fill in the blank. That argument is stupid. I lived in Saudi Arabia for 10 years. I know Islam. I know Mormonism. Bottom line is the difference that in Mormonism “salvation comes through Christ, and in no other way.” Wait, but don’t the two religions believe in being modest, giving alms to the poor, fasting, etc? Oh my gosh, evil Mormonism is just like evil Islam. (Gasp!) Pernicious is pretty pernicious, isn’t he? Figures…

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    • jcannon98188
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 3:26am

      @PerniciousD
      Why do you still insist on this anti-mormon propoganda? We do not rely on Jesus? The name of our church is the Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Do you claim that those who followed John the Baptist, or John the Revelator, both prophets, did not follow Jesus? Your very comment shows your lack of knowledge of the Bible. We have a prophet, who leads us on earth, but we also have Jesus Christ, our savior.

      @The OP. Because not ALL muslims are bad. Many are, yes. But not all. We cannot turn away someone based only on being Muslim, or else we are no different than the Nazi’s who attacked people for being Jews.

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  • thomas242007
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:59pm

    Great job mr cain, im glad you brought up oklahoma thats my state and in morst cases if a large group of people vote no on somthing and its 73% thats how it is, but of course cair whined and cried about the results not going their way the judge that ruled in favor of the 30 percent that was against it should be fired

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    • teapartyguardian
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:06pm

      could you type that again…..so we can glean what you meant. I think you were against Herman Cain.
      If that is so, you are misguided.

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    • LetUsReason
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:33am

      There’s something about a lack of adequate communication skills, combined with a near total absence of necessary punctuation, that makes posts like this unreadable. It’s a shame. It might have been worthwhile.

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  • the hawk
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:55pm

    Should of said HELL NO ! ! !

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  • nomercy63
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:53pm

    Is it completely impossible for you clowns to say a definite hell no!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • TRONINTHEMORNING
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:50pm

    Cain rocks; and so does Michele. The rest can be advisors.

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    • oldasdirt
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:18pm

      Bachmann was pretty dang good.☻

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    • Timmtamm
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 12:46am

      Bachman came out on top in my opinion. All the experts said that Romney won, but looking at his answers, I think he was easily passed by all the rest except Pawlenty.

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 1:25am

      Pretty Good debate tonight, Thought they all did GOOD !! GAWD,
      Newt was even OK, suprised me.. where were the teleprompters ??
      at this point I would even like to see Ron Paul debate Bama, think
      his hair would get a little grayer, can’t talk without spreading B.S…
      be totally lost without “TELE” be a lot of UH,HUH, AH, AWW.’s..

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    • Robert Hawk
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 5:13am

      In last nights debate, I found John King to be a problem. It was if King wanted to hear only the answers he could use as ammunition against the Republicans, shutting them down when they went into any serious explanation. And that constant drone of yea that he does is completely annoying. But then again it’s the Stoic CNN network so what could we expect?

      I found Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich and Michelle Bachmann to be strong contenders. Ron Paul was on his usual rant about the FED, however he was the only one that understood what being the worlds reserve currency meant (America is the worlds bank and a nation of bankers). This is why manufacturing does not matter any longer in the USA. Our number one export is US dollars and business transactions in US dollars. Ron almost got there but stopped short. We get less than 10% of our oil from the Middle East yet we house the 5th fleet there .. Why? The answer is all oil transactions take place in US dollars.

      The remainder of the pack I found to be more of the same Stoic based politicians as we currently have in Washington. Especially Romney, he is so far into the Stoic doctrine that his responses were predictable. Newt, and Herman and Michelle, none of them gave Stoic responses especially Herman and Newt’s responses to the issue of hiring Muslims. We must get social decisions out of the hands of our government, Ron Paul was correct in his comments concerning this. Marriage is an issue for the church not the state

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    • DrFrost
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 10:57am

      @ROBERT HAWK

      We may get less than 10% of our oil from the middle east, but they essentially set the price for everyone. That makes them very important. Putting a fleet there… well, I can think of many reasons why that is a good idea but let’s just say it helps stabilize the region and leave it at that.

      As far as accusing the current crop of politicians of embracing greek stoicism… talk about coming out of left field. You completely lost me there.

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  • Wdawg
    Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:49pm

    my gosh. sharia law is no threat, it will never happen in the US! we still havnt switched over to the metric system

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:54pm

      Cain, Romney & Gingrich Wrangle With Quesion of Muslims Serving in Government
      ———————–
      WHO do muslims serve when in Government ?

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    • PerniciousD
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:56pm

      Romney is going to get a big lift – Book of Mormon won a Tony award and Southpark writer gave a shout out to Joseph Smith the mormon prophet. He said:

      Southpark Creator gave Joseph Smith a shout out. Parker said he‘d be remiss if he didn’t thank his late book co-writer – Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon church.

      “You did it, Joseph! You got the Tony!” Parker said, looking skyward.

      This helps Romney big time.

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    • PerniciousD
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:59pm

      Mark Twain would have been suprised the Book of Mormon won a Tony considering he said: “The book seems to be merely a prosy detail of imaginary history, with the Old Testament for a model; followed by a tedious plagiarism of the New Testament. The author labored to give his words and phrases the quaint, old-fashioned sound and structure of our King James’s translation of the Scriptures; and the result is a mongrel–half modern glibness, and half ancient simplicity and gravity. The latter is awkward and constrained; the former natural, but grotesque by the contrast. Whenever he found his speech growing too modern–which was about every sentence or two—he ladled in a few such Scriptural phrases as “exceeding sore,“ ”and it came to pass,” etc., and made things satisfactory again. “And it came to pass” was his pet. If he had left that out, his Bible would have been only a pamphlet. . . . The Mormon Bible is rather stupid and tiresome to read, but there is nothing vicious in its teachings. Its code of morals is unobjectionable –it is “smouched” [Milton] from the New Testament and no credit given.”

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    • spirited
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:07pm

      Newt did not “wrangle”.

      >Go back and listen to what he actually said.

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    • LibertariansUnite
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:14pm

      Did anybody see the part where Ron Paul spoke Austrian Economics…..

      and every other candidate looked at him like he was an alien…..

      because they have no idea what economics is about?

      Ron Paul 2012.

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    • AKMIIKEUS
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:22pm

      Cain is a bigot, he’s done.

      Poor guy, how stupid is this man I ask you?
      You can’t just ask Muslims certain questions. You can’t just ask Jews certain questions or Christians.
      Whatever happened to being equal under the law?
      This is what will happen if a Republican gets in office. Nothing but a theocracy.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:35pm

      Were they talking about BO, the potus, being the muslim in government?

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    • pothos42
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:39pm

      I bet western Europe didn’t think sharia law was a threat either. Look at how that worked out for them. It’s a stage 4 cancer now. Ignore it and hope it goes away. It’s not going away? Ok, here’s a few small concessions to keep you quiet. What, you’re not shutting up and you want to take over? Uh-Oh. It reminds me a lot of how we handle our border with Mexico. Yet another cancer created by politicians ignoring the problem in order to get elected. How’s that working out for us? Be vigilant, or kiss our country goodbye.

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    • GBMBulletsSKNRD
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:41pm

      I don’t call what I saw tonight a debate. I call it a joke and CNN was the punchline.

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    • justafollower
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:42pm

      Newt trumped Cain but, Cain has a better chance than Newt. It was a good showing for Cain but they elbowed him out as much as they could. At this point he’s my pick

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    • American_Woman
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:50pm

      Sharia Law has already been upheld in over 50 court cases in the United States. WAKE UP PEOPLE! Fight this creeping threat by joining act.org NOW!

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    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:55pm

      justafollower
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:42pm
      Newt trumped Cain but, Cain has a better chance than Newt. It was a good showing for Cain but they elbowed him out as much as they could. At this point he’s my pick

      _______________________

      Agreed, kinda. newt was giving a more forceful answer than Cain, but they both said the same thing. I think Newt won the whole show, but that hardly matters in the realm of “electable”. Ron Paul also shined, but again, “unelectable” which is a shame the two best on the stage are so undesirable. For worse or worser, this is a beauty pagent, and “professional politician” Romney won the hearts of the viewers who were undecided because, let’s face it, undecideds are ignorant, “American Idol-watching” sheep who are easily lead by the nose. Sad that they, the ones who decide elections are that poorly uninformed, but there you have it. Romney is just a part in the machine, Paul is the solution to the machine. Americans don’t WANT “fixed”, they want to be wooed. Paul spits in your face with the truth, Romney is the frat-boy in the bar that sweet-talks you until you let him abuse you in bed, then never calls again.

      Who would YOU go home with at closing time?

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 10:57pm

      The simple answer to that “GOTCHA” question is, “I would appoint the people I feel are best suited to the job.”

      PERIOD

      You need not explain yourself, your thought processes, etc.

      If you’re interviewing people for a job, and three are equally qualified, and one of them has poor hygiene, and one has a screeching voice. We would all hire the third of those three. There are many things that go into consideration that need not be divulged, but are considered none-the-less.

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    • jzs
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:06pm

      Sorry, Cain did say several times that he would, as President, impose a religious test on members of his cabinet and the judiciary, something in direct violation of the US Constitution. And rather than man up and admit his mistake, instead, he lies.

      http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2011/jun/08/herman-cain/cain-denies-claims-he-said-he-would-not-appoint-mu/

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    • mill
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:11pm

      A good muslim is not a live muslim…or a muslim in our government

      They ALL ALL ALL follow the same book and teachings.
      There are no “radical” muslims. tHEY’RE ALL THE SAME, SOME A LITTLE MORE FORWARD THAN OTHERS..
      AS SAID, THEY ALL FOLLOW THE SAME WRITINGS! iF YOU THINK THEY ARE GOOD MUSLIMS, PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THEY CAN FOLLOW THE KORAN AND STILL BE A “GOOD” MUSLIM…IT’S A BOOK OF DEATH AND HARROR, NOthing more, nothing less.

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    • SavingtheRepublic.com
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:33pm

      Doesnt matter what their position is none of them are going to win. Sorry to say with what I have seen by the zombie army being built BHO is looking at a 2nd term no one here wows me. If I am not wowed you can be sure those clearly unengaged by whats going on will have zero spark go off come election day.

      Grab a shovel and start digging the countries grave

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    • abbygirl1994
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:38pm

      Pernisiousd Please take your spew and Mormon hatred to another network.. we really find you a disgusting moron!

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    • bullcrapbuster
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:45pm

      @perniciousd………. Your agenda is very clear. So are you a preacher afraid of losing his meal ticket. Afraid your sheep might want to investigate the Book of Mormon (another testiment of Jesus Christ)? It would be terrible if they thought for themselves. Who would pay you to preach if your sheep woke up and decided to do their own homework? I doubt very much that you ever even suggest that to your flock. How about you take your half truths and innuendos to another forum.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:46pm

      JZS
      How religious is it to contract hits, call for the destruction of a race?
      Just wondered if that is a constitutional right? All Nazis didn’t work in the camps
      But they still were Nazis…tell me how this is different? Enlighten me

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:48pm

      cheezwhiz
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:54pm
      Cain, Romney & Gingrich Wrangle With Quesion of Muslims Serving in Government
      ———————–
      WHO do muslims serve when in Government ?
      _______________________________________________
      Do you ask that of a Catholic, do they serve Rome or US, what about a Jew are his loyalties with Jersulam or DC?

      I thought tbaggers were all about the constitution, the Contitution has a absolute prohibition against a religious test, what Cain has suggested is on its face unconstitutional.

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    • PerniciousD
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 12:08am

      Abbygirl, when Mormons go knocking on doors, they say it is to tell everyone about the “One True Church” – even when Christians open the door.

      when a Christian tries to encourage a Mormon to see the real Christ, Mormons scream “anti” or “hate” till they are blue in the face.

      Get right with God, don’t try to become God.

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    • Uranium Wedge
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 12:09am

      Mitt who?..

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 12:39am

      @ encinom
      Have you read the koran ?
      Not the sanitized sugar-coated English translations available online but
      the REAL ORIGINAL koran ? In ARABIC ???
      Have you ever lived in islamic societies ?
      NOT with a muslim family living down your street in USA but
      IN AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY , under their rules and laws ?
      If you haven’t , you don’t have the slightest clue about who the muslims serve when in our Government.
      Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism etc are religions.
      Islam is a cult of death and destruction.
      So it has nothing to do with our Constitution

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    • 101
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 12:51am

      I see again, CNN is choreographing the art of manipulating who’s “WINNING” & “LOSING” a debate!

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    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 12:57am

      jzs
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:06pm
      Sorry, Cain did say several times that he would, as President, impose a religious test on members of his cabinet and the judiciary, something in direct violation of the US Constitution. And rather than man up and admit his mistake, instead, he lies.

      _____________________________

      Just flipped through my Constitution…..which part exactly was violated by Cain considering the religion of a potential Cabinet member was violated? (Question asked as if it were actual FACT that he said and meant that, rather than his true statement being taken completely out of context. A question i have heard him refute now 4 times, and still the same question is asked.)

      But assuming what YOU believe he said was true, what part of the Constitution would be violated?

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    • My Sacred Honor
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 1:06am

      encinom
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 11:48pm
      cheezwhiz
      Posted on June 13, 2011 at 9:54pm
      Cain, Romney & Gingrich Wrangle With Quesion of Muslims Serving in Government
      ———————–
      WHO do muslims serve when in Government ?
      _______________________________________________
      Do you ask that of a Catholic, do they serve Rome or US, what about a Jew are his loyalties with Jersulam or DC?

      I thought tbaggers were all about the constitution, the Contitution has a absolute prohibition against a religious test, what Cain has suggested is on its face unconstitutional.

      ____________________________

      You absolutely stupid SOB. Quote for me where in the Constitution where there is “a absolute prohibition against a religious test”.

      Quote it, numb fuq.

      Your failures to post adequately here mount daily, and yet you choose to step, barefoot on the rat traps. At home, do you purposely walk into door jambs and fall down steps? Is THAT why you support obama, so while you live with mum and pop and continuously hurt yourself, your free health care to provide for your fail “behind” will forever not be infringed? You not only are a stupid degenerate ******, you expect the rest of us who pay taxes to CARE FOR your failure?

      And if I am completely wrong about YOU, you advocate for exactly what I just described for another like that. You fail so badly i want to feel sorry for you. But then, you are smart enough to put together a sentence, so….you just fail.

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    • *************************
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 1:13am

      @cheezwhiz – “WHO do muslims serve when in Government ?”

      Actually, they’d be just like our present politicians … ignoring the U.S. Constitution (the “law of the land” – in case anyone doesn’t remember what that was), in favor of their own agenda.

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 1:19am

      @ My Sacred Honor
      Clueless trolls have been told that the Constitution was written 20 centuries ago .
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiRhHqlzaG4
      So they are not even talking about the same Constitution as you and me .

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    • *************************
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 1:23am

      Was this really CNN? Then all these men showed poor judgment even showing up and branded themselves as unqualified for the White House … but eminently MORE qualified than the present occupant (who isn’t even American!).

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    • docgreen
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 1:43am

      My Gosh people if we don’t start to understand islam/muslims are not our friends we are fish in a barrel! Look at what has happened in Europe! We keep killing babies while muslims are producing like rabbits; how long do you think it will take before they take over the world? If we don’t start to understand this cult we are doomed! As it is, we are allready screwed with Obama and his shovel ready jobs! Its funny to think he comes out today, says he wants more engineers and is going to put together a program to produce engineers. If we don‘t have jobs it doesn’t do any good to produce more engineers! We Fricking need Doctors! I’ve been saying all along Obama is headed to rule the New World Order; “per Henry Kissinger” in order for this to happen the dollar needs to collapse taking all other currencies with it! Then him and his World Elitests can step in and make everyone slaves to them! You won’t have a choice; I see cleansing, maybe even ethnic cleansing! The Jews and the Christians are first! We’ll eat what they want us to eat, we’ll work where they want us to work, and we‘ll die when they want us to die and we’ll reproduce when they want us to reproduce! Were becoming slaves to these B_stards and yet we have people saying that muslims are no problem! Do you understand islam has a roadmap to take over the world, and Obama’s neck deep in it! Obama stated he helped cause the uprisings in Egypt and Lybia! All muslims will soon turn against US and ISRAEL! Wake u

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    • grandma7
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 1:55am

      Today, we have every Major bank (except Chase) that are Sharia Compliant Banks. Please don’t think it will never happen in the U. S. 299 of the S&P 500 are Sharia Compliant!!! Research, Please!!

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:07am

      ANYONE who thinks that SHARIA LAW is NOT a threat to the USA needs to look at some Everglades Land I have for sale. GROW UP. ISLAM is out to take over the world. They have slipped in their DASTARDLY, EVIL Sharia law in every place they’ve infiltrated and they have tried somethings here believe it or not and without OUR DILIGENCE those animals would have it everywhere.

      PS Don’t sweat insulting a RELIGION: ISLAM is a CULT. IT IS NOT A RELIGION.

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    • Robert-CA
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:23am

      CHEEZWHIZ
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 12:39am
      @ encinom
      Have you read the koran ?
      Not the sanitized sugar-coated English translations available online but
      the REAL ORIGINAL koran ? In ARABIC ???
      Have you ever lived in islamic societies ?
      NOT with a muslim family living down your street in USA but
      IN AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY , under their rules and laws ?
      If you haven’t , you don’t have the slightest clue about who the muslims serve when in our Government.
      Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism etc are religions.
      Islam is a cult of death and destruction.
      So it has nothing to do with our Constitution
      ___________________________________
      Thank You CHEEZ .
      it‘s like watching the English version of Al Jazeera the lib loons think it’s a good channel but they don’t watch the arabic version of Al Jazeera which is filled with hatred & propaganda against the west , specially the USA .

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 2:26am

      @MySacredHonor

      Constitution of The United States of America 

      Article VI Paragraph 3 is the no religious test clause. You must of missed it when you flipped thru your Constitution. 

      Please note all who this clause takes into account. 

      Ron Paul 2012 he will win if you will vote Constitutionally..

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    • Talmid of Yeshua
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 3:33am

      You are incorrect. There have been cases of Sharia Law being used in place of U.S. or State law. The most recent case is in Florida.

      Again, I must say you are wrong about Sharia Law.

      And Romney the RINO is wrong as well. Look it up… Sharia Law has been used in U.S. Courts.

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    • dr_funk
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 4:40am

      There are not elements of Judaism, or Catholic Christianity, or any other religion for that matter, that are attempting to subvert the constitution of the United States.

      Muslims are waging a war of Jihad, and it is being waged on multiple fronts. First and most obviously, it is being waged with suicide bombs and AK-47s. Second, and less obviously, it is being waged in a quiet and subversive manner on our own soil, with Muslims attempting to make Sharia the law of the land, Muslim investors trying to make American corporations Sharia compliant, etc.

      According to the Quran, Allah permits Muslims to lie to nonbelievers. Allah permits Muslims to murder nonbelievers. Allah permits Muslims to rape nonbelievers. Everything is allowed in the name of Allah, because Islam’s goal is not salvation for its followers. Islam’s goal is total world domination.

      The “prophet” Muhammad was a warlord. He beheaded hundreds of people with his own hands. And Muhammad is the role model to which all Muslims are to aspire to be like.

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    • Robert Hawk
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 4:56am

      Actually sharia law is a threat in the United States. Stoic doctrine brings about its implementation under four specific systems (Communism, Socialism, Progressivism, and Liberation Theology). Communism initiates via change through violent revolution, Socialism works through change via taking control of top government positions, Progressivism works through the boiling the frog theory, where the change is so slow in coming that it gradually comes about then the next thing you know, you are there.

      Adherents to Islam have learned to use the Progressive change to bring about bits and pieces of sharia law in the United States. Using lobbyist, Islam can approach specific democratic politicians who will introduce and vote for their sharia legislation. Further, using the 1st amendment of the Constitution, Islamic adherents can use the US courts systems to bring about precedent, in legal judgement based on sharia law.
      Herman Cain is correct on this issue and Newt backed him up last night 100%. The remainder of the GOP stood with the democratic Stoics on this issue. This is the same mentality which allowed the National Socialists (NAZI) to flourish in this United States in the late 1930s under Boon. Its also the same mentality which has allowed the rise to power of the largest single state religion in the history of the United States (Stoicism). Thats right boys and girls, You have allowed Progressives to bring about a national religion in the USA (Stoicism)

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 5:32am

      If you are satisfied to have people in our government who advocate the violent overthrow of our government, then go with the Muslims. Three fourths of Muslims advocate Sharia and Sharia advocates the violent overthrow of our government..

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    • Robert Hawk
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 5:41am

      To Encinon:
      The constitution supports the free exercise of religious belief. It does not however support the destruction of the United Staes as part of that free exercise. Some religious practice results in human death… do we allow the sacrifice of humans in order to allow first amendment rights? There is a level of sanity within the first amendment. We are at war with a religion, one that has claimed jihad against the United States, its therefore prudent to justify anyone of that faith prior to allowing them into public service in the federal government. Its no different than justifying Germans or Japanese during world war II.

      Its not a first amendment issue, its a defense issue. Hermans remarks are exact on this point as were those of Newt. A muslim who is looking for employment is not asking to practice his religion, he is asking for employment. What does the constitution say about employment? That is the issue and the President (commander and chief) would have every right to question any employee who is adherent to Islam, since they have chosen to war against the United States.

      I watch Stoics make this same argument over and over again and they are all wrong. Selective employment is not a first amendment issue. As a matter of fact, the constitution states no authority over the issue of employment other than that of elected officials. Employment is not a constitutional right.

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 8:05am

      They tried to hurt Cain by restating what he had originaly said in a different way and he stopped them as soon as they did and restated his original words and answered the questions. He is one of my picks at this point, but I will have to see how the field plays out at this point. Romney is a no, he is a rino.

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 8:56am

      Romney isn’t awake yet, Cain did a good (passable) jopb of contolling Kiing’s “interpretation”.

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 9:47am

      @Robert Hawk
      First we are not at war with a religion, no more than we were at war with Shintoism during the Pacific campaign during WW2. We are at war with those who use religion as a justification for their actions. No different than those that kill abortion doctors and bomb clinics, then point to the bible as justification.

      Second, the issues is a religious test to hold office, Article VI, paragraph 3 “but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States” It is clear that those like, Cain seeking a blanket prohibition from Muslims serving in the US government in on its face unconstitutional.

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    • click_name_4_impeachment
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 9:51am

      My opinion is that Ron Paul won that debate. Cain came in close second, and as much as i don’t like him, newt came in 3rd.

      Ron Paul is the most consistent person on the stage. He does not tailor his answers to try to hide what he means in a forest of vocabulary….Why can’t people see this, he is the only one that says what he means consistently. While everyone else is up there speaking all about themselves and what they are going to do….Ron Paul is like…..”Here is what WE are not going to do, and shouldn’t be doing.” It might be his downfall, but I like it….

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 9:53am

      @My Sacred Honor & CheezWhiz

      Art. VI. Paragraph 3,
      “but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”
      I preety clear prohibition against the use of a religious test. I thought you tbaggers knew your constitutin, or is it only those sections plastered on 1/2 term Palin’s tour bus that matter.

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    • kreese
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 10:09am

      AMERICAN-WOMAN:

      You said it very well. Are some of these people paying attention? Have they looked at some of the judges that have been appointed?

      Americans, you better get your head out of dark places—this is a time when “ignorance is NOT bliss.”

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    • marybethelizabeth
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 10:15am

      Let Me Tell You Something
      Mr. Beck, and Mr Cain, are lying.
      Stop Stop Stop
      Mr. Cain is right when he said the question asked about his feelings,
      but the exact quote of the answer is:
      “No, I would not.”

      These people are playing you. Don’t accept their lies.

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    • DrFrost
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 10:40am

      @ENCINOM

      What are you angry about? Why are you using such a repugnant term: tbagger? It demonstrates a lack of character on your part. The ends do not justify the means and there is no excuse for a lack of good manners.

      I can’t answer for the Tea Party, but I certainly don‘t want a catholic in the government who’s going to put Rome ahead of the US. And I don’t want a jew who is going to put Israel ahead of the US. And I certainly don‘t want a muslim who’s going to put Islam ahead of the US.

      I don’t think these are inappropriate questions. And I don’t think they are a religious test. It’s a LOYALTY test.

      If Herman Cain wants to build his cabinet out of like minded individuals, then he has every right to do so. It’s what most presidents do. If you want to characterize that as a “religious test” because he’s a religious man, it seems to be a bit… reaching to me. You could make the same argument based on a pro-life stance… that it’s based on christian fundamental beliefs and therefore requiring people that serve in your administration to hold to that belief is a religious test. It’s just a word game. Which ideals and principals do we attribute to religion and which do we not? Who get’s to decide?

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    • seanscythe
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 11:11am

      I say listen to the crowd. Cain was applauded for his answer Romney wasn’t no one agrees with him.

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    • Tomb355
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 11:26am

      Sharia law is being pushed to enforce it in cities where large populations of Muslims reside. It is a threat if we allow it to be implicated…the push is strong in European countries and is being considered in some American communities…so don‘t state that it isn’t a threat….maybe not intense at this moment but is becoming moreso and will become a lot greater if we don‘t stop it in it’s infancy

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    • Lover of America
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 11:45am

      Wdawg – you might want to rethink that statement. Are you familiar with the group CAIR? They are a front group for Muslims, and believe they would love to implement Sharia law on this beautiful United States of America.

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    • stablepar
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 12:22pm

      allah

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    • JohnGalt
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 1:09pm

      When there’s doubt over a persons allegiance, either through religious, political or ideological belief that has to be examined closely. If the Mickey Mouse Club was associated with terrorism around the world, I would question anyone who was a member or past member, and do a thorough investigation into who they are. Sorry but it’s better to be safe than sorry. Apologies to any who are members of Mickey Mouse Club.

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    • teddlybar
      Posted on June 14, 2011 at 7:51pm

      @Encinom “It is clear that those like, Cain seeking a blanket prohibition from Muslims serving in the US government in on its face unconstitutional.”

      Only if that’s what he actually said. He didn’t say he would refuse to have them serve, just that he wouldn’t feel comfortable with them in his administration. Nor did he state that there would be a litmus test only applied to Muslims. That assertion was from the moderator’s rewording of Cain’s statement, which you have gone on to reword again to apparently fit in with your own bigoted viewpoint to justify your prejudicial smear.

      When JFK ran for president, his catholic faith was an issue. He addressed it as follows: ““I am not the Catholic candidate for President. I am the Democratic Party’s candidate for President who also happens to be a Catholic. I do not speak for my Church on public matters — and the Church does not speak for me.”

      What you fail to realize is that it is possible for a man of faith to be faithful to the Constitution. Indeed, that was all that Mr. Cain was saying he was planning to use as a litmus test; whether or not the interviewee would be faithful to the Constitution. You seem to be faulting him for using executive judgment determine if the person was actually going to be capable of honoring his oath of office. Isn’t the point of an interview in the first place to ascertain whether or not the interviewee has the potential of fitting in and positively contributing

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