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Calif. Airport Arrests Man for Saggy Pants, But This Guy in Women’s Panties is Okay

Last week, we brought you the controversial story of a college football player who was arrested when he refused to pull up his sagging pants while boarding a plane. According to a spokesperson for the airline that called the police, US Airways, the airline forbids “indecent exposure or inappropriate” attire. Fair enough. So how does the airline explain letting a man in women’s panties fly without incident, and despite customer complaints, just days earlier?

Calif. Airport Arrests Man for Saggy Pants, But This Guy in Womens Panties is Okay

The man pictured above flew through the San Francisco airport six days before the saggy-pants incident with 20-year-old Deshon Marman. Jill Tarlow, a passenger who took the picture, turned it over to the airline to complain. And according to her, others did as well. The airline, however, ignored those complaints. And it says it was right to do so.

“We don’t have a dress code policy,” U.S. Airways spokeswoman Valarie Wunder told the San Francisco Chronicle. “Obviously, if their private parts are exposed, that’s not appropriate. … So if they’re not exposing their private parts, they’re allowed to fly.”

So what about the incident with Marman? All indications are that he wasn’t arrested for exposing his “private parts,” but rather for displaying his boxers. And then refusing orders to pull his pants up.

Wunder declined to comment to the Chronicle about that question and incident.

“It just shows the hypocrisy involved,” Joe O’Sullivan, Marman’s attorney, told the Chronicle after he viewed the photo of the cross-dressing man. “They let a drag queen board a flight and welcomed him with open arms. Employees didn’t ask him to cover up. He didn’t have to talk to the pilot. They didn’t try to remove him from the plane — and many people would find his attire repugnant.”

He added, “A white man is allowed to fly in underwear without question, but my client was asked to pull up his pajama pants because they hung below his waist.”

Still, the airline did clarify one thing in Marman’s case.

“The root of the matter is, if you don‘t comply with the captain’s requests,” spokeswoman Wunder told the Chronicle, “the captain has the right to handle the issue because it’s one of safety.”

But that begs the question: Wasn’t the whole incident started over his sagging pants? As video of Marman’s incident shows, the captain did, in fact, request Marman pull up his pants. And when he didn’t, things went down hill from there.

So, is there a double standard being used here?

Read the full story from the San Francisco Chronicle.

Comments (190)

  • BigSky
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:23am

    I stopped reading when I learned he was from San Francisco.

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  • 2010GOP
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:20am

    The pilots of planes seem to be on a power kick rather than a safety minded theme. The inconsistency in the interpretation of policy seem skewed as well. From the person in CO that was denied passage for “safety reasons” by the captain -he was a para or quadra plegic person, who was flown out a couple hours later by Frontier after having been kicked off an earlier Frontier flight because he could not be properly secured… as if he were luggage. Then the saggy pants, now the nutty cross dresser, seems TSA is having more and more fun with their security measure…. decency is now gone by the way side and we can expect more and more of this type of ridiculous behavior….

    to be continued

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  • dwhitlow
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:18am

    No offense to all 213 decent boomers.

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  • dwhitlow
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:17am

    Two words; BABY BOOMER

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  • Epic Fail
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:11am

    He/She/It looks like a TSA agent…

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  • mossbrain
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:08am

    That guy probably has the AIDS. They should spray him down with Lysol and make him sit on several layers of newspapers. Can you imagine if you had to sit next to that freak, pubic crabs would be crawling all over you

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  • Ron_WA
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:07am

    It’s because it was obvious the panty freak wasn’t “PACKING” anything dangerous

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  • commonsenseguy
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:07am

    dear lord, please bless these idiots, and my i ask just one big favor, please help us asasp.

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  • frustratedwithgovt
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:07am

    Common sense fled SF along time ago – its probably in TX with the rest of the California businesses.

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:12am

      we don’t want their left wing,liberal sucking businesses here .they can go to Chicago,they are more welcome there.

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  • NEAF
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:04am

    How do we know if this men (or woman to be), got into this flight. Look to me like this is a prank for TSA. Anyway, what could you expect from California?

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    • Tammy_Beth
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:36pm

      NOT a “woman to be” – trans people, true transsexuals, go to great lengths to be taken seriously. This sort of stunt might be found in the occasional gay man (a tiny minority, but the ones who get the most attention because they love parades and such) or just your run of the mill nutbar – but this is no transsexual.

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  • MORE PORK PLEASE
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:01am

    Again…come here often…

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  • MORE PORK PLEASE
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:00am

    Come here often…

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  • Khedewia
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:59am

    So basically, it doesn‘t matter if other passengers complain about someone’s attire as being offensive. It matters if the captain finds it offensive and if you don’t obey the captain, then you are arrested.

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    • 9111315
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:23am

      He is the pilot. You also get the same right when you are the driver of the car.

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    • Tammy_Beth
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:33pm

      this.

      More than any other guess posted, this makes the most sense.

      Although – I do agree that SOME LGBT activist will literally defend ANY thing (they are simply a very loud minority, not “all”) I can’t rule out the possibility the pilot simply decided not to risk an uproar.

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  • psst
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:59am

    Aaaw C’mon. this IS SanFranFreako afterall.
    I wonder if IT‘s panties had sagged down or IT had rolled it’s stockings down to IT’s ankles would It have been arrested? Afterall, this IS kal-y-fornya.Nothing unusual about this.
    Just don’t have saggy pants
    Did TSA check ITs junk, could have been a splosive slender needle tampon used for mending purposes hidden somewhere.

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:10am

      well after reading the last part of your post, i had to put my coffee and donuts away, although it could have had something up it’s yahoo,{ butt }that might explode.

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  • eddvoss
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:59am

    Well baggy pants isn’t the same as cross dressing. If they had stopped this guy every Gay Rights group would have been up in arms over it. We have to be able to express our selves don’t you know.

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  • Mandors
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:59am

    They just thought he was an off-duty flight attendant. They all dress like that.

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    • MonIIcne
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:15am

      If they all dressed like that then you could easily see their man-doors.

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  • I_Hate_Libs
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:57am

    It may be time to get a dress code US Airlines because clearly you people are confused.

    The horror of the Democrat mind.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 4:33pm

      Who would want to use the same airline seat after that freak used it?
      Except, of coarse,This_Individual, and MonIIIIcne. They would be sniffing the seat!

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  • MidWestMom
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:56am

    Was he walking around the terminal and board the plane dressed like that?
    If so, I think he falls in the category of “indecent exposure”. And yes, I would feel the same if it was a woman etc. Doesn’t matter who.

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    • MonIIcne
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:11am

      Why don’t you drive him to the airport, as a courtesy. You are after all very common.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 12:32pm

      @ – MonIIcne

      Since you refer to a conversation we had on another thread, it appears you’ve changed your posting name yet again.

      The wording of your post seems to indicate you use the term “common” in a derogatory & condescending manner.

      If so, then you must believe anyone who exhibits “common” courtesy (opening the door for an elderly person, using the words Please, Thank You and You’re Welcome, offering to assist others etc) should be viewed with derision, contempt and having less value than others.

      If your post is not meant to define “common” in this manner, it seems to be only a childish taunt.
      Either way it is off topic.

      To answer your question:

      If I knew in advance of his intention to appear in public wearing this attire or if this attire was displayed when I arrived to pick him up, no I would not drive this man to the airport.

      In my area his attire would be considered in violation of the Indecent Exposure laws regarding public display – a criminal act. And anyone willfully assisting or abetting him would also be considered in violation of the law. As a law-abiding citizen, I would not offer a ride in advance or continue with a pre-arranged ride to the airport. I would courteously decline either scenario.

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    • MonIIIIcne
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 1:11pm

      Well it’s good to see you have some morals. Why do you call yourself “MOM” are you someone’s mother?

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 1:46pm

      Yes I do. And thank you for noticing.
      Yes I am. I’m curious why you would ask. Does it make some difference to you one way or the other?

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    • MonIIIIcne
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 3:21pm

      No, it’s just that I think you are heaven-blessed a rare gift. Has anyone you trust ever told you that you are correct practically 100% of the time?

      You positively exude confidence and certitude, and you must be like a force of nature at home. Must be wonderful for the kid(s).

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 6:29pm

      “No, it’s just that I think you are heaven-blessed a rare gift.” – If I believed you were sincere, I would take that as a compliment.

      “Has anyone you trust ever told you that you are correct practically 100% of the time?” – I’ve never asked… People I trust know me well enough to realize I don‘t believe I’m correct all the time and that I don’t want, expect or require adulation or ego-stroking. And I‘m sure there are people who think I’m not even close to 100% – I’m ok with that.

      “You positively exude confidence and certitude” – See answer to #1

      “and you must be like a force of nature at home” – Not at all.

      “Must be wonderful for the kid(s).” – They seem to think so, no major complaints. Unless you want to include the inevitable scenarios when my 2 youngest feel they must respond with typical teenage drama…..”if I can’t go, my life will be over”…..”Why not? Everyone else’s parents let them [go to it, do it, wear it, have it] – I hate you”. etc etc etc. If you have/had teenage children, you know what I mean.

      Thankfully they will grow out of the drama stage….the 2 oldest did. And most other people do too.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:14pm

      Well, I am sorry you are not able to gracefully accept a compliment, (that’s why I still ask you to confer with someone you trust) but I think you have a deep moral conviction that drives you. Most people never know what that is like, and you are special. Kind of like Sarah or Michelle.

      ((Maybe, of course; you are just a professionally adept fake and I am wrong about you. So be it. I have been fooled before by caustic persons. Anyway, good luck with all you do.))

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  • I_Hate_Libs
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:56am

    California, the place where dreams die and the stupid survives.

    The horror of the Democrat mind.

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  • cessna152
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:55am

    I have to be honest… Sorry, but that out fit does make you look fat!

    Halocaust survivor gives account of incremantal steps of Hitler… truly AMAZING! This administration are NOT Marxists they are National Socialists! Her story is unbelievable and shows how Hitler’s propaganda convinced the populace to vote for and trust him.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAvMHWhdEUU&feature=youtu.be

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    • TexasCommonSense
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:01am

      It’s a great video, people. Watch it and notice the connections to today.

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    • nzkiwi
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:46am

      I agree, everybody should watch this – you will be glued to your computer.

      Thanks Cessna.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:58am

      I emailed, posted and sent to everyone I know… please do the same and thanks for watching.

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    • lewbrown
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:38am

      Outstanding, a chance to see America’s Future? I hope not, I am 70 years old and I would hate to think that my family would have to face what she describes. Those young people that still haven’t learned, there are two sides to every story, need to know that that smell in the air isn’t Roses. This lady takes you by the hand and walks you through the past and possible future. Her warnings are valid, Educate yourself, Register and vote. Then more education and preparation. Question everything.

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  • I.Gaspar
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:55am

    weiner in 2030?

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  • Akbarjonnie Shaheed
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:55am

    When you are George Sorros, you have your benefits!

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  • JP4JOY
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:55am

    San Francisco is all that needed to be said. That whole part of the planet should slip into the ocean and the sooner the better.

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:21am

      It’s true, we have some wacky people out here in California, but most of the wacky ones hail from your neck of the woods. So don’t throw all of us Californians into the same boat as this person. Generalizing is ignorrant.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 6:21pm

      @ This_individual.

      I spent 5 years in the Marines serving 2 years in Florida and North Carolina and 3 years in California. I can say from experience that your neck of the woods has some freaks, actually, it has lots of them. Luckily for you guys the hot beach going women kinda made up for it.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:55am

    .
    Wow! Bet the TSA guy was in Heaven………

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    • crackerone
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:58am

      I think the stockings and choke chain necklace are a little over the top.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 4:20pm

      You obviously looked ALOT closer at that picture than I did!

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    • spirited
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:06pm

      He/she should have been asked to put on a skirt to cover the blue panties.

      >Both the pajamas pants and panties were ‘under’ wear.

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    • dnnyshdy
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:16pm

      He should be arrested and beaten.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:51am

    It’s not hypocrisy, it’s stupidity. Neither man was dressed appropriately in public.

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:00am

      @gonzo, i don’t know what to post , wow, okay i thought of something . okay i am at a lost for words.
      any way, we received about an inch an a half of rain this morning and are really thankful,we need more,but thanking god for what he provided, the firefighters really needed a much needed break, so again thanks for the prays,and hope we get some more rain soon.

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    • Mannax
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:03am

      MY EYES!!1!

      *SIGHS* What is seen cannot be unseen.

      Why, Blaze, why must you do this to me? With no eye bleach to get the picture out of my head.

      Seriously, this guy is an attention whore. Trying to prove a point. However, he should have been tossed off the plane and told to put some pants on.

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:08am

      My retinas are burning!!!!!

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:09am

      This goes beyond hypocricy; the fact of the TSA and others here is the same – pressure, pressure, and more pressure…nudge, shove, shoot.

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    • MonIIcne
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:09am

      GOOD job hunting this one down, there Mr. Gonzo.

      This important national security topic – appropriate pat-down attire- will lead to days of congressional hearings and tons of fascinating Blaze discussions in the weeks to come.

      Please pay full attention to this article (plus the others to come) so the rest of us can concentrate on lowering the national debt and bringing the troops home.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:16am

      I could be wrong, but that looks like a TSA protester to me. The TSA looks at you nude before flights and feels your groin and chest for suspicious lumps before boarding. At first, I thought they were right to kick off the guy for sagging because I detest it so much, but compared to what the TSA does to every passenger, I think his pants are a non-issue.

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:34am

      Whoooooooooa!

      ……

      Ugggghhhhhh!!

      …this is hypocrisy at it’s worst.

      I’m going to scrub my eyeballs with a toothbrush and listerine now…

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:43am

      Saggy pants can be a SAFETY issue. If you had to leave a plane because of an emergency and some one with saggy pants fell down in front of you because his pants were around his ankles, you might be trapped. I don’t want someones saggy clothes hindering anyone trying to get off a burning plane.

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    • chazman
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:44am

      This creep is the best example of why working for the TSA has got to be the worst job in the world …

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    • push, push, shove, shove, shoot…
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 10:47am

      This gent is attempting to get the TSA to cross the line so he can interrupt Government work.

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    • Mirimichi
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:12am

      @SgtB,

      I agree with your assessment.

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    • fastfacts
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:17am

      THIS GUY COULD BE OBAMA’S NEXT SCHOOL CZAR

      Kevin Jenning’s critics respond to his claims that they “completely failed,” this coming after he was kicked out of the White House. http://tiny.cc/7rsfm

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    • hud
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:19am

      Getting into gender issues can be very expensive, and it’s outfit was color coordinated after all.

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    • jackeric61
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:28am

      but that is their business. If these idiots want to dress like slobs or fools they deserve the comments they get from the general public. Gov’t has no business dictating what or how we dress. Period. As for the airlines it is within there right to refuse service to anyone. It is there business to run as they see fit, don‘t like there rules don’t fly with them.

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    • Czar Casm
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:29am

      I’ll bet nothing was said because they fear the Nazi thought police of the gay/lesbian brown shirts. They have special rights dontcha know.

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    • United we stand
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:30am

      Get this crap off the net !

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    • obama-mecca-me-sick
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:34am

      Isn’t that Bawney Franks wife??

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    • drattastic
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:37am

      A horse whipping would do this mutant some good. At the very least it would make him keep it behind closed doors.

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    • rubberbandangle
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:37am

      I don’t think this is a black and white issue. More of a ‘Don’t offend the Gay Community’ issue.

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    • 101
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:50am

      I would sit next to the guy sagging but, I would refuse to sit next to this ******!

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    • lemmings4obama
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:56am

      I think it’s both a black/white issue and a ‘don’t hurt the freak‘s feelings’ issue as well. The football player could have had basketball shorts on under his pants, boxer‘s aren’t much different really, just cotton and different print. I bet the only skin you saw on the kid was on his face and arms. This guy on the other hand is repulsive. Obviously everyone agrees with that. But since he look’s pretty flaming, the airline kisses his nasty butt. I’m done with US airways, they’re liars. They either lied to the football kid or didn’t enforce their own policy on the cross dresser. Do you think an attractive girl would be allowed on a plane dressed like this bozo? Sounds like a job for Zombie…

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    • mcfinch
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 12:04pm

      That is just nasty.

      http://politicalbowl.com – Political Videos

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    • Deanna in Missouri
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 12:07pm

      San Francisco…I should of known. All conservatives please leave California before GOD has had enough and lets it fall into the ocean. I wouldn’t lose any sleep if that happened. And yes hypocrisy indeed. I am sure it will turn into a race thing. This thing is disgusting. What is happening to us? This is not the America that I knew. People like this need to be shamed into returning to the darkness of their closets.

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    • Live_Free_orDie
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 12:23pm

      Proof of failed Progressive Philosophies!!! Who’s to say what is normal? or Everybody is a winner so give them all Trophies! or winning isn’t everything! or the Military are animals and violence is bad, so don’t beat up the JA that dresses that way in front of you and your kids!!!

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    • Pastor Ray
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 12:26pm

      If the eyes are the window to the soul how much damage has this FILTH done to my soul!?!?!

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    • meamerican
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 12:36pm

      I likw how the lawyer said it was based on skin color, I would think being it was San Fran it was based on the fact that he was a homosexual. You cannot offend the gay guy but it is okay to offend the straight guy.

      I don’t want to look at the one guys boxers but this man is by far indecently dressed.

      The inmates are running the asylum!

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    • VegasGuy
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 12:37pm

      On his way to hook up with Weiner.

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 12:50pm

      ugghhh. I see dead people.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 2:08pm

      California’s brand of morality………….

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    • Clive
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 2:53pm

      a black guy gets arrested for having his pants hang too low, but really exposing nothing.
      this old crusty white man wears lingerie on a plane, and thats fine.

      ugh yeah, racist. the black guy is going to win that lawsuit.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 3:14pm

      “He flew San Fransisco”
      Nuff said.

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    • jsafrit
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 3:32pm

      I saw this guy in Vegas a year ago, walking the strip in not much more. He obviously has issues and likes the attention.

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    • Disnylv
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 7:33pm

      they both want to make me barf

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 8:18pm

      Too many things going on here.
      Airline has no dress code, but the captain asked the droopy drawers guy to pull his up?
      I thought the police arrested droopy for indecent exposure in the airport? That was what was reported.
      As for that thing in panties – that is just gross.
      If both news reports are accurate, the only way this all makes sense is,
      if one pax encountered police officers and one did not.
      In that case, it was chance that mr panties didn’t encounter police, and did not encounter a pilot who was willing to make a stink about his inappropriate attire.

      DEFINITELY, I can see where mr panties would cause other passengers to complain enough to elicit a pilot intervention. Droopy on the other hand, I don’t think the pax would have been the driving factor, but a flight crew who wanted to avoid such a situation may have tried to ward off any problem by preemptively requesting a simple ‘pull em up’. In which case, Mr Droopy must comply – failure to do so creates a situation where you have now refused to comply with the orders of a flight crew member – that alone is reason for getting bounced from a flight.
      I don‘t know what San Fran’s local laws are, precisely.
      That is why I was surprised that Droopy got arrested in San Francisco at all!
      Of course, if you stumble south of Market during one of their “street fairs” (or festivals?) you will surely be visually assaulted by ‘men’ with their bare butts exposed, or even public sex acts, and I’m not saying lap s

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    • Tammy_Beth
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:03pm

      My eyes are burning too – not only from the pic but from the ignorant and unsupported assumptions made by many in response.

      first, to be clear, if the airline would not have let a woman board in that outfit, they shouldn’t have let him; secondly, until demonstrated otherwise, the obvious explanation is that this is a TSA protest which the airline likely decided not to call attention to (since it would be done FOR attention; On the possibility that it really is the indulging of a fetish, it is completely inappropriate and does much more damage to the fight for respect and equality than it could ever do to help it – if he’s an activist he simply demonstrates what i already know – that most activists do much more harm that good (like those fools and their glitter)

      (oh, and i wouldn’t have tossed the guy with the baggies either, by the way)

      That said – i have to note some of the class-less replies:

      @Czar Casm – no, there’s no special rights. you see a case like this (even if it were fear of a gay uproar which it isn’t proven to be) and you think “special rights” – but what LGBT people see is how VERY many cant get a job, or get married, or even get a little common respect. if they were treated as “just another ordinary person” then there would be no need to fear an uproar because there’d be no need (although to be clear, if there HAD been an uproar defending this guy I’d have had to side against him – if this wasn’t a protest it is not acceptable behavior)

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    • Tammy_Beth
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 9:24pm

      @Drattastic – “mutant”? Seriously? If you mean “goofy nutbar” in general, I tend to agree that behind closed doors is a good goal (though not with horsewhipping). I can’t think of a good reason for letting him fly, and only a TSA protest for even trying it – but i hope you don’t specifically mean LGBT people with that word. You can’t assume that.

      @Rubber – they may have assumed he was part of the gay community but I don‘t think I’d assume that. Gays, except drag queens, generally don‘t cross dress and DQ’s only do for preformances; on the other hand, trans people who dress as the target gender do so with the goal of a credible female (in this case) presentation – no trans person would go “balls out” like this as an obvious man in drag, as demonstrated by the obvious bulge. He is either a protester or a nutter, but he’s most likely not gay/trans. however, especially in SF, I can see where they might have said “we’re not gonna risk a protest”

      @JSAFRIT – i expect your right. He‘s a mental case who’s not representative of any “group” of people beyond himself. Which is my objection here – using one nutbar to slam the whole group.

      I also note a scattering of words like “freak” and “nasty” and “thing” and “filth” (the ever loving “Pastor Ray” again)but without a specific reference to what you mean by that, I won’t bother to debate that.

      the more I think about it, the more I think that it comes down to the difference in the pilots – the

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    • VoteBushIn12
      Posted on June 22, 2011 at 11:11pm

      @banjarmon
      That is a ridiculous conclusion to draw. Saggy pants are somehow worse than a man-thong because it’s a fire hazard? What about the woman wearing heals, are those a fire hazard?

      Or old couple that takes too long to get off the plane- are they a fire hazard?

      How about anyone wearing prescription glasses? If those fall off they might not be able to clearly navigate their way to an exit, sounds like a fire hazard!

      I have seen people in saggy pants run and have myself ran from the police with my pants drooped. I can assure you, there is no loss of speed – ESPECIALLY when your life and future depends on it.

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    • imreddog
      Posted on June 23, 2011 at 4:24pm

      Isn’t he cute?
      I hope, for their sake, that this perverts parents, siblings and anybody else that knows him, are dead. This would embarasse any normal human being to death. I can see the bumper sticker… MY SON IS A CROSS-DRESSING PERVERT! Yeah, they would be proud parents alright.

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