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Calif. Atheists Rip Up Bible Verses During Anti-Christian Beach Protest

Atheists in Huntington Beach Rip Bible Verses Apart in ProtestOver the years, believers and atheists have had their fair share of spats. But, as time progresses, it seems that the tit for tat arguments that often season debates between the two parties are increasing in their ferocity.

Over the weekend, Backyard Skeptics, an atheist group out in Orange County, California, decided to rip apart photocopied pages of the Christian Bible in an effort to rail against the book’s “immoral” teachings. Beliefnet’s Rob Kerby has more:

[The group] says the demonstration is based loosely on Thomas Jefferson’s Bible – an 86-page book that omits huge chunks of the New Testament, according the Religion News Service. Jefferson’s Bible, which the Smithsonian National Museum of American History is restoring, chronicles Jesus’ life but leaves out the Resurrection and all miracles the Bible says Jesus performed.

Bruce Gleason, the group’s director, explained the Backyard Skeptics’ opposition to the holy book. “We’re not there to burn the Bible or desecrate,” he said. “But there are plenty verses in the Bible that if you did any of those things today, you’d be thrown in jail immediately.” He continued:

“We want to make this a better world for secular and humanistic values. We don’t believe prayer works. We don’t believe religion adds anything except a sense of false hope.”

In actions that the Washington Post’s Brad Hirschfield called “hypocritical” (after all, these are “free thinkers” who are purposely destroying something they disagree with), these non-believers decided to hold the very public demonstration to showcase their disrespect for Christian scriptures.

To make sure that people would see the event regardless of their location, Backyard Skeptics even aired it live on UStream.com. Below, find a report from an atheist involved in the event as well as some raw footage from the demonstration:

Also, watch the following event explanation, featuring an interview with Gleason (who admits getting “carried away” and actually tearing up a page from the Bible) and attendee reaction (via the Orange County Register):

Hirschfield responds to all of this, writing:

Fanatical atheism is no worse and no better than fanatical religion, though it may be more bitterly ironic. There is something pretty odd, dare I say hypocritical, about a bunch of people who call themselves “freethinkers” and “humanists” not only verbally abusing people of faith, but actually tearing up verses from the Bible as an act of protest…

And in the Baptist Press, Kelly Boggs discusses the lack of media coverage the event has received:

If the organization were Christian and ripping pages from the Quran or destroying the book “Heather Has Two Mommies,” it likely would have garnered media attention from sea to shining sea, with the Christians portrayed as insensitive bigots or intolerant censors.

Considering the negative attention a Florida pastor brought upon himself over his Koran-burning exploits, it‘s a wonder this hasn’t warranted more media scrutiny.

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  • obama-mecca-me-sick
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:16pm

    Its a good thing it was the Bible and not the ‘Qaran or there would have been hell to pay for defacing it.

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  • Bullhorn Guy
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:16pm

    They claim not to believe, but in truth they hate Jesus. The Bible has received more scrutiny than any literature in the history of the world, but it still stands. They cannot effectively discredit it, despite their most sincere efforts. Know, brothers and sisters, that they hate you, but you’re in good company, because they hated Him first. Consider yourselves blessed if you are allowed to suffer for the Name of Jesus. The real persecution is coming. We haven’t seen anything yet, in this country, but we will.

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    • republapig
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:24pm

      Even so, come soon Lord Jesus.

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    • Bullhorn Guy
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:33pm

      Maranatha!

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    • db321
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:39pm

      These guys are perfect example of what an Atheist is – they spend every waking hour of everyday, trying to convince others that something they don’t believe in – doesn’t exist.

      Most see them as a Nuisance – I see them as someone who is tormented.

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    • AOL_REFUGEE
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:40pm

      I hope those losers are real proud of themselves.

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    • TH30PH1LUS
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:41pm

      ATHEISM: by definition is “knowing” that there is no God. The ONLY way to know that, would be to possess ALL POSSIBLE knowledge in the universe.

      In which case it should be cake for an atheist to explain how the outer rim of pinwheel galaxies rotate at the same speed as the inner portions of the same galaxies when Physics demands they should rotate more slowly.

      OR to explain the rotation of the planet Uranus.

      OR to explain how viable dinosaur DNA can still exist.

      OR to explain why the laws of the macro-verse & the micro-verse are not compatible.

      OR to explain the theory of “pangea” when the backside of the continents also fit together (not just the obvious Africa/South America puzzle fit).

      Yes, folks – ALL THESE MYSTERIES and more will be explained to us in short order by the same folks who claim to have access to ALL DATA in the universe, and know for a fact that there is no spiritual dimension, no human soul, and no God.

      Romans 1

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    • Locked
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:45pm

      @TH30PH1LUS

      “ATHEISM: by definition is “knowing” that there is no God. The ONLY way to know that, would be to possess ALL POSSIBLE knowledge in the universe.”

      Absolutely correct. Most self-proclaimed atheists are actually agnostic atheists; basically saying “I don‘t believe there’s a higher power because there is absolutely no scientific evidence of one.”

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    • Black Manta
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:49pm

      Thats called absolute knowledge and not one human have that…

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    • cosette
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:08pm

      Having come from a family of many atheists, and being a believer myself, I do understand the mindset. A belief system that includes a hereafter and consequences is unacceptable to people who are relativists. Sinners, by definition , are relativists. So being , they deny a deity who would punish their denial and unrepentance. This allows them to continue in their sin nature. It’s quite simple really. One need only know an atheist on the most intimate level to understand it.

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    • riverdog1
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:10pm

      i don”t believe and i don’t hate jesus. of all the athiests i know i have NEVER met anyone who does. quite making stuff up.

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    • en2deep
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:11pm

      It was a national story when one so called pastor in Florida talked about burning the Koran. Every leftist in the country was offended and apologozing to muslims around the world. They will applaud this trashing of the Bible.

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    • Coyote6
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:25pm

      I was going to post something profound, but the bullhornguy beat me to it. Right on man!

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    • Rowgue
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:29pm

      @TH30

      Wrong. The defenition of atheism is not believing in the existance of god(s). You are inventing the idea that the definition of atheism is to “KNOW” that no gods exist. That’s a fabrication you created. I am an atheist but I‘ll be the first one to say that I don’t know for certain that there is no god. Only that everything I‘ve seen to date seems to indicate to me that there isn’t.

      What an agnostic actually is is somebody that doesn’t feel they have enough information to committ to either atheism or theism.

      All atheists aren’t foaming at the mouth morons like the people at this event or the people that want every reference to god removed from any public place. These groups that organize and attend these events can’t even honestly call themselves atheists. Their religion is the belief that all others should be converted to their belief system, it’s no different than any other religion on earth except they substitute themselves for gods.

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    • KickinBack
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:30pm

      California. The land of fruit and nuts.

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:37pm

      LIES>

      “We’re not there to burn the Bible or desecrate,” he said. “But there are plenty verses in the Bible that if you did any of those things today, you’d be thrown in jail immediately

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    • Zer0
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:52pm

      Aside from committing a blatant act of hatred and bigotry, I must ask a question…..Why don‘t these brave individuals attempt this with the Qu’ran?

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    • boxy
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:53pm

      Amen

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    • faithkills
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:57pm

      IMO they are not atheists. An atheist doesn’t believe. These guys are angry. If they don’t believe what then are they angry at. I’m an atheist. But I observe Christianity is a positive force in the world, faith just wasn’t a positive force in my personal life. I don’t want to convince anyone to be an atheist. I want everyone to be free to believe in whatever they want, so long as it doesn’t harm others. Unfortunately not all religions are positive forces in the world, ie Islam.

      Christianity has a bloody history, but it’s not bloody today. Today, in the US, if you want to find someone pro liberty, you’re advised to find a Christian. That’s all good in my book.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:58pm

      Riverdog…I know alot of atheists too…and they do hate God…I believe it’s more true than not. What do you expect from ANY city in California, they worship the beast and all his pleasures, and do not believe they are accountable to anyone…to sum up the new testament, JESUS SAVES, pretty simple right!?

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    • cessna152
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 3:00pm

      Actually it’s kind of sad. The Bible clearly states this will continue to happen and i am amazed how short sighted these people are. I can understand taking a gamble at the casino or on a new job… But a gamble on eternity? Just plain stupid and sad…. God reveal your truth to them..well, actually you have. Soften their hearts and open their minds.

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    • Deuteronomy22
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 3:01pm

      Of course I am not surprised that Blazers would associate all atheists as radical just as they do every religion that does not fit their dogma. I don’t believe in the God of the Bible, believe Christ was a wise man but a not devine and frankly don’t know what happens when we die but lean towards nothing. Immortality would get old after a while so I don’t mind having my conciousness extinguished when I die. Seriously after a few million years of sitting in a meadow and worshipping Jesus I’d probably be begging for an end.

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    • Marci
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 3:23pm

      If they have real stones, they’ll go out in public and start burning the Koran. But they don’t do they? Because this isn’t what this is really about. It is about anarchists/progressives (a little of both) who NEED to separate people from religion in order to meet their goals. Religious people aren’t fans of government being God, and you can’t sway them from that unless you either separate them from the religion through some miraculous gesture that convinces them, or you ensure everyone possible isolates and persecutes them. Make no mistake–they are RELIGIOUS. Their religion is destroying Christianity. Note they never go after any other religion….

      Granted the head nut of the atheists did a pseudo rant regarding Islam recently, but did so in a manner that lumped both Christians and Muslims together as one, saying that “they” (both) murdered in the name of religion. Most of his rant was aimed at Christians, his inclusion of Islam was out of the realization most people know their intentions are to destroy Christianity as it is an obstacle for them in the U.S. He rarely mentioned Islam, in fact substituted Christianity for most actions of the Koran.

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 3:25pm

      Deuteronomy22,

      If that is your goal, you will probably get there. We all make our choices.

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    • edcoil
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 3:47pm

      Let this show me they ripped up a Koran and I’ll listen to them. Until then nothing.

      I have never see people spend so much time and effort attacking something they say does not exist.

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    • robert
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 4:01pm

      Why these people have to make a statement of their beliefs is beyond me. And why they feel they have to behave so badly just because other people have a belief in a deity is also beyond me.

      This society for a long time now has been so prosperous it spawns flakes, oddballs and misfits who have so much time on their hands they have nothing to do but hate.

      We need this coming economic collapse, because it’s well beyond the time to bring things back into focus and cull the herd of the craziest elements.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 4:12pm

      Rip up that paper man….your hurting only the environment that that paper was produced from and the energy it took to produce it. We’ll print more. The Holy Bible has seen worse evil against its destruction but it is still here. When a person acts this way they are only saying to God “I don’t want you and I reject everything you stand for” They also fulfill biblical prophecy concerning their own beliefs in themselves.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 4:16pm

      The church of real believers will be gone, but the remnant that is left will believe even more but it will be a tough go for them only along with the rest of the evil riffraff they’ll have to endure with. Take the mark not take the mark, either way its going to be hell on earth. Yes, we have not seen anything yet. I didn’t believe this time would come so quickly but it has….like a thief in the night! I have found no lies in the bible, no half truths, no contradictions so I must take the Lord at his word that he says he will return….are you guys ready?

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    • scarebear83
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 5:01pm

      @ Faithkills I’m sorry it seems you had a negative experience in your life and sounds like you have nothing against those who practice their faith in a positive way. But remember, we‘re all human and we all mess up or don’t do something we should be doing. I agree that not all religions and even not all people are a positive force. I can only hope and pray that your past or other factors won’t keep you from learning more about the Truth but that you will be curious about the Bible and Christianity. If you‘re ever curious and have questions I’ll be here :) A few bad experiences shouldn’t keep us from faith but should make us stronger. I’ve heard several stories of people going through so much pain and anguish in life (sometimes caused by others) but have kept the faith. People getting shunned by their families for being a New Testament Christian, getting bullied and ridiculed by people who claim to be “Christians” but are not. We shouldn’t be worried about what others can do us but what the Lord can do to us in the end. For now though I can only offer you what I know and have read and hope and prayer that you’ll consider learning more.

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    • fatjack
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 5:03pm

      The sons of cain knows for a fact that God exist, that’s why they hate HIM. It’s impossible to hate something that has never existed. Sorta like hating your un-conceived brother.

      Jesus is coming!……………Are you ready?

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 5:18pm

      I respect this idiot’s right to do what he did.
      I loathe the fact that he saw fit to do it. Just an angry atheist who I bet a psychiatrist would have a field day with.

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 5:25pm

      when are they going to tear up the koran ????

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    • faithkills
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 6:11pm

      @scarebear83

      Hehe I don’t generalize bad behavior form people claiming to be Christians to the religion itself, I just hope you will understand the same thing about these ‘atheists’. They are properly anti-theists. A real atheist doesn’t have a religious belief to be offended. I don’t hate god, I just see no evidence of one.

      But posters are correct. If a religion comes close to deserving anger it is Islam. Prominent atheist Sam Harris understands that. Not so much anger but concern, and recognition that Islam as currently constituted is not the same as other religions.

      Also no, there was no trauma that formed my philosophy. Perhaps if there were I might better understand the anger of these ‘atheists’. I can understand that someone raped by a priest might be emotionally affected. But that isn’t my case. I just find the act of belief to be detrimental to intellectual growth, for me anyway. I don‘t ’believe’ in belief:) There’s a saying, the wise man knows he knows nothing. Belief is ‘knowing’, and once you ‘know’, you stop seeking. Theists, and idealists in general, ‘know’ things and are thus closed off to further knowledge.

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    • HD Veteran
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 6:18pm

      Bullhorn Guy Spot on.

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    • scarebear83
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 6:28pm

      @Faithkills- As a Christian I know that I could always learn more and to say I know it all would put me in a bad position. In fact the Bible tells us that we still grow and learn. We‘ll never know everything but we must keep growing even if we’re 99 years old.

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    • dwilco77
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 7:47pm

      It takes a child until about the age of 6 months to realize that when his Mother leaves the room, that she still exists. Until that point in time, when she cannot be seen, she does not exist. Faith is believing that God exists without having to have visual proof of his existence; however, if you can look outside of yourself, and understand how complex the existence of life is, there is visual proof. A single cell is extremely complex in it’s design. To believe that lightning could hit a puddle of premordial mud, and begin the basis of life, is a far greater reach than to believe in intelligent design. I believe in God, and have faith that Jesus died for my salvation. I have no problem with someone who choses not to believe as I do. I have had a great life, and do what I can to lead a good life. If I am wrong, then I just ended up with a good life. If an atheist is wrong …

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    • SLAPTHELEFT
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 8:16pm

      I contend that these atheists are cowards. Wanna argue that? Show me by a public display tearing apart a quran. Until you do that you have no credibility with me. You’re just a bunch of crybabies who need attention.

      And God is watching.

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    • SLAPTHELEFT
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 8:22pm

      Don’t worry deuterononmy, once all of us fairy tale believers are gone, you can then take up your cause with the Muslim brotherhood. I heard they are really open minded once the sword of conversion is at your throat.

      Good luck and may God help you.

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    • CottonMPG
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 9:33pm

      That is true. I agree. We should count it all joy when we are persecuted for Jesus name’s sake! If they really disbelieve in God, why do they care if we silly people believe. Why don’t you see more outrage against the toothfairy? As Christians some of us have issues with lying to children about magical creatures because it can confuse them about God and miracles but generally no one gets terribly outraged over the toothfairy.

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    • Squ33
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 9:34pm

      I disagree, they don’t hate Jesus. Everyone must follow their own path in the search for G-d. I would ask them where their inalienable rights expressed Declaration of Independence come from?

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    • Chappy123
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 9:37pm

      db321
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:39pm
      These guys are perfect example of what an Atheist is – they spend every waking hour of everyday, trying to convince others that something they don’t believe in – doesn’t exist.

      Most see them as a Nuisance – I see them as someone who is tormented.

      Well said!!!!!!!

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    • Watchingtheweasels
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 9:47pm

      I wonder when they’ve scheduled the “lets rip up the Koran” beach protest.

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    • Jennifer_D
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 9:55pm

      This is why I believe that Atheism is a religion; a cult. These people can’t stand the fact that others have beliefs. Instead of going on their own merry way being tolerant of others; they resort to tactics like this. It would be interesting to consider what they would think of someone protesting in the same way against Muslims.

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    • Rightsofman
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 10:22pm

      They can destroy all the bibles but you can’t make God go away. They know not what they do.

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    • Faith1029
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 10:48pm

      SCAREBEAR83: I was all set to post and give my 2 cents until I read your response to Faithkills. I have to say with all the hatred that sometimes comes through on these sites, your kind and loving response was very touching. We need more people like you who speak the truth in love. Thank you for reminding us of that.

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    • eibbora
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 11:19pm

      These people have know clue what the bible says! Not one of the scriptures they read are actually in the bible.

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    • usmc1063
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 11:58pm

      I guess if they don‘t pray they won’t have a prayer in the here-after. It must make them feel big ripping up and destroying the bible. No matter what bible they choose. I would just love to see them do the same thing to a Koran. Talk about a book of violent acts they ought to check that one out. But as usual they wouldn’t have the b&6l’s to do that.

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    • Tim Law
      Posted on September 21, 2011 at 12:10am

      God is Great! Jesus is our Saviour! They will hate us, they will mock us, and they will try to destroy our faith. It is hard but we will love them and we will pray for them. I would advise them to read the bible they so hate. Our Lord Jesus said: if you deny me before men, I will deny before my father. GOD Bless you all brothers and sisters, keep the faith.

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    • Thomas
      Posted on September 21, 2011 at 12:56am

      Oh no that really keeps me from knowing God. Hey Atheist, just so you know, we don’t worship the bible.

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    • Spiritglogal
      Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:36am

      Two questions for these atheists: 1) How do you feel about censorship (other than the Bible)? I suspect you would throw a FIT if anyone were to shut down some porno magazine because of “Freedom of Speech.” Yet, it’s OK to censor and “edit” the Bible. 2) What about the Qu’ran? You talk about immoral? Here’s a book that talks CONSTANTLY about killing all non-believers! It’s a total HATE book. Let’s see you editing or censoring THAT book! If you have the GUTS to do that, we can talk. Until that, I will ignore your nonsense, because your rants are gutless and irrelevant.

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    • sweathog1948
      Posted on September 21, 2011 at 12:04pm

      The Bible says that an unbeliver cannot understand the things that are spiritual.

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    • garyintheboro
      Posted on September 21, 2011 at 12:39pm

      Well said Bullhorn Guy

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    • kellied
      Posted on September 21, 2011 at 1:12pm

      Do these people meet in thier living room and tear christians apart. They interviewed a woman in a wheelchair and all you saw was a cig, as if that justified some belief of theirs. I’ll bet that they call the T.E.A. Party terrorist. It seems these people should have enough in America to join together and fuss about, without picking on God loving people.

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    • award1989
      Posted on September 21, 2011 at 2:06pm

      To say atheists hate God is kind of idiotic. You cant hate something you dont believe exists. If you’re going to make an argument please take a few seconds and ask yourself the question ” Do I sound like an idiot?”

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    • copys
      Posted on September 21, 2011 at 2:22pm

      Obviously, you don’t have to pay them to be good, they are good for nothing. But are they really good? How many hospitals, orphanages or clinics have been started by atheists?

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    • usnpops
      Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:54pm

      When that Christian Minister burned the Koran in Florida, the Muslims in Afghanistan were incited by their clerics to hit the streets and kill, behead and mutilate the bodies of some UN folks in revenge for desecrating their Holy Book. I do not condone either of these actions, .

      But can you think or what would happen if a bunch of Christians were called out to kill these athiests as revenge for desecrating their holy book?

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    • Pujols
      Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:35pm

      If they don’t believe why would they waste their time?

      I do believe and I would rip up their? wait, they don’t have anything. Nevermind!

      Don’t they work or do they all have Government jobs?

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    • Abbaslilgirl68
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:46am

      Very well said Bullhorn Guy.

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    • 1791
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 2:31am

      Why just a Bible, why not a Quran? I guess it‘s because we’ll turn the other cheek, but not for long…..

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    • FireRose
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:13am

      You suppose that’ll happen soon?

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    • bojax
      Posted on September 26, 2011 at 7:14pm

      You guys are all missing the point here so I’ll fill you in: WE ARE THE MAJORITY! That’s the fact, Jack! Enough with focusing on what some minority thinks, especially when it’s not really relavent. This is still a Christian nation, and while some groups (in the minority) want to act like we’re not, the fact remains. So to these people (who are too cowardly to tear up a Quaran by the way) say what you like, but stop refering to us BELIEVERS as narrow minded. It’s tired retoric and only makes you look hypocritical. ‘Nuff said!

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  • Black Manta
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:16pm

    Instead of getting mad at the guy, pray for him because he verily is not an atheist he’s an agnostic big difference…

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:46pm

      There have always been atheists.
      Does that prove that we do not have a loving Creator? Does that prove that the devil does not exist?

      Logical people recognize that everything and every life form had a designer/creator. Let the illogical ones rant on, it does not alter the facts.

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:56pm

      Don’t worry about these people, these atheists, they do not have any wisdom.

      Isaiah 40:21 Do YOU people not know? Do YOU not hear? Has it not been told to YOU from the outset? Have YOU not applied understanding from the foundations of the earth? 22 There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gauze, who spreads them out like a tent in which to dwell, 23 the One who is reducing high officials to nothing, who has made the very judges of the earth as a mere unreality.

      Stay calm my friends, the true God will take care of this matter in His own time and way.

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    • ArmyGirl
      Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:10am

      With the reference that “women should shut their mouths” well first of all a bunch of men decided what would remain in the scriptures and what would be taken out, so of course that would be one verse that they would want in the Bible.
      But it doesn’t mean that: it means that women don’t hold the priesthood and therefore cannot preach, but women can teach and speak in church.
      The bible has been rewritten and translated so much that it has lost most precious words.
      People today don’t need to apply whats in the Old Testament when Christ was born and resurrected it changed the doctrines, obviously we don’t sacrifice lambs,
      If you want to be an atheist go right ahead, but as for me and my house I will serve the Lord.

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  • urrybr
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:15pm

    Some more of O‘bummer’s “useful idiots.”

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  • Starkadder
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:14pm

    I don’t worship a book. It’s only paper. Is this supposed to be offensive? Forgive them Lord for they know not what they do.

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    • Spqr1
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 3:48pm

      As an agnostic I say to you: THANK YOU for being reasonable and rational about this. Why should something like this threaten faith?

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  • Locked
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:14pm

    Odd that the Blaze didn’t mention which passages were being ripped:
    “Group members said they would rip out verses in the Bible such as Deuteronomy 22: 14-31, which tells those living under the pre-Christian Mosaic law that if a man finds his wife not to be a virgin, the community can stone her; or a later verse in the same chapter… that virgins who are raped will be forced to marry their rapist.”

    The group definitely went too far; fanatics on any side of a religious debate are blinded by their fervor.

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    • StanO360
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:22pm

      You either have no understanding of Christianity or are just being deceptive. Historical Christianity views scripture in context historically and in light of the New Testament. But . . . I think you know that.

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    • Locked
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:39pm

      “You either have no understanding of Christianity or are just being deceptive. ”

      How so? I’m just relating what the passages were that they were tearing up. The quote is from the linked article from beliefnet.

      Also, what do you mean by historical? Are the acts themselves no longer sins, or the punishments no longer needed? I’m honestly curious, because I‘ve heard a similar argument being made about wearing clothing of two different fibers or not cutting one’s hair, but people are still more than happy to quote Leviticus to argue against homosexuality.

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    • Banter
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:53pm

      @Locked,
      Jesus died on the cross for Everybody, and rose again for Everybody, perfectly in the Law. In doing so, he kept the Ten Commandments perfectly, because we are not able, and was sacrificed in our place. Thus, the laws, punishments, rites, sacrifices of the OT are not relevant anymore, as Jesus kept them all perfectly. All we have to do is believe, have faith, pray, and read and hear God’s true word.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:10pm

      Also, there is a separation of levitical law to the Jews and the Ten Commandments. God had specific reasons for His law to the Jews and the punishments for breaking those laws. Those reasons do not apply to any other race. Jesus sums up the Ten Commandments quite well. 1. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength. This covers the first 5 commandments. 2. Love your neighbor as yourself. This covers the second five. This is what we are to try to live up to as Christians. Of course we will all fall short but we are to walk in this direction.

      Salvation is by faith alone. The law does not save you, it condemns you. Jesus saves.

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    • mils
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:17pm

      I do not believe in the heavenly origins of the bible….and do not consider it a sacred book

      HOWEVER…where are the Christians that should be outraged??? oh off turning the o ther cheek while people lke this gets laws changed that effect all of us.
      .and Christians just sit there saying…”you‘ll get yours’…just wait..wait..wait…oh, n ot gonna happen huh…oh well, yeah yeah the meek, the earth..that ain’t happen either..
      …damn the large organized christian groups need to grow a backbone and stop these people.

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    • Bullhorn Guy
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:34pm

      Hey MILS, I disagreed with every word you said…until the last sentence.

      For God has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity, but of power, love, and self-discipline.
      2 Timothy 1:7

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:39pm

      Outraged at what MIL? That a handful of people chose to exercise their first amendment rights? They aint pickin’ my pocket. :-)

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    • Solzhenitsin
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 3:50pm

      Are you counting on people not looking up the passage and/or Biblical illiteracy to let your claims pass? For one thing, the verses above allow for an examination of evidence and punishment for a man who makes such a charge falsely. Though this passage only deals with the case of women, if either sex were found to be guilty of fornication, the punishment was the same.

      As for verse 28, it is expounded upon further in other passages. The woman’s father has the final say whether the man can marry the daughter or not, so he could prevent her from ending up with a monster. Considering how they lived at the time, it would be unlikely that there would be unknown stalker-type rapists. This law would have a deterrant effect, discouraging men from using women only to leave them unmarriagable and destitute with no consequence to themselves. To marry her was to assume a lifelong responsibility for her, period. How many men would engage in date rape if that were the sentance now?

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    • Locked
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 4:35pm

      @Solz:

      “Are you counting on people not looking up the passage and/or Biblical illiteracy to let your claims pass?”

      What claims? I made absolutely none: I quoted (from the Beliefnet article The Blaze took the story from) the particular passages mentioned. Have an issue? Take it up with Beliefnet or The Blaze, as the story is theirs.

      But as for your fact checking, you’re talking about the -man- in this case, accusing a girl of not being a virgin. Conveniently you stopped at the man’s punishment and ignored the next part, which states:
      “If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.”

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 5:08pm

      Trolltrainer

      That is interesting. Where did you get that from? The bible of course, but?

      “God had specific reasons for His law to the Jews and the punishments for breaking those laws. Those reasons do not apply to any other race”

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 5:44pm

      Mostly just from the context walkabout. I suppose I could mount a scriptural argument but it would be complex and full of holes. This is just one of those common sense things. Israel is God’s chosen people. They were supposed to be the model of righteousness for the rest of the world. God told them to go into Canaan and KILL ALL Canaanites. This was so the people could remain pure. But they failed in this and they did interbreed with the people of the land. (Please keep in mind here that God knew all this would happen, just as He knew Adam would sin, this was all part of the plan, building up for the need of the Savior). Anyway, because of this corruption God gave the Jews harsh rules to show them what it takes to remain pure. The example above is stoning non-virgins. Well yeah, think about this! No teenage pregnancy, no messing around, sex was kept in the proper context…etc…Every aspect of their life was guided by this iron fist.

      So it is the context. We still need to strive for righteousness. We are not excused from the Law, we are merely pardoned for our sins. Is God going to hold me accountable because I wear clothes of different materials, I fail to tie tassels on the four corners of my robe, I eat shellfish, or because I take my azz for a walk every Saturday? No, I don’t believe so. These laws were given to the Jews of that time, not for us today. If we keep Christ’s two commands in mind we will always be guided along the right path.

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    • 4truth2all
      Posted on September 21, 2011 at 9:30am

      Yo MILS:
      To be outraged means that I give these mis-guided people power into my life to upset me. THEY HAVE NOTHING ON ME. There glory will be their own shame. I feel pity for them

      Which takes more strength…. to hit back when someone hits you or to not hit back when they do. I think you will find it harder to not hit back for many reasons. I will give you one. If you don’t hit back people will label you as cowardly, and you will have to take that also even though you had NO FEAR of the situation at all.

      Jesus did not fight back… and He said IF my Kingdom was of this world my followers would fight back.I will tell you this… if God would unleash his people to war in this manner we would rule the plant. There is NO power capable of stopping us. God ain’t workin it that way!!!

      The Lord says….“ my ways are not your ways”…… I’m not interested in doing it your way!

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  • Infidel49
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:13pm

    These are the same people who would take a big smelly dump in their skivies if someone even mention doing that to the koran. They will protect the “ true religion of violence” against the “True Religion Of Peace.” They are ass backwards and that is how their master likes it. Serve him well and live it up now because when this life is over you will have eternity to figure out where you went wrong.

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    • Red Max
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:20pm

      Well said INFIDEL. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCfbYkXtHuA&feature=player_embedded

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:38pm

      Oh, I am SURE that next year’s event will feature the destruction of Koranic verses. After all, these are the elite of America’s brave and intellectually honest. ** end sarcasim **

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    • loriann12
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:45pm

      Yea, I missed the ripping up photocopies of the Bible part…..let’s see them show some real b@77$ and do that to a koran! They know we aren’t violent, but Islam is….

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    • SICKOFPCNESS
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:55pm

      …..saddest part is it won’t take an eternity to figure out where he went wrong….only about 3 seconds.

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  • Black Manta
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:13pm

    God is the creator of all things you can not change his moral laws…Fact of the matter is humans don‘t know we’re being judged by these moral laws..meaning you have no idea what sin is unless you know the law which is the ten commandments..most people say they won’t go to hell cause they never murdered anyone well the bible says if you hate your brother your a murderer at heart which makes you guilty..Shall not lie is a commandment and one lie, a white lie a lie lie sends you to hell…

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  • SodamYat
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:13pm

    Sounds like they want life to be hell, so be it

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  • BubbaCoop
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:12pm

    Luke 18:19

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  • Isaiah52021
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:12pm

    What is sad is when the truth is revealed to them and they are screaming satan you are a lier it will be too late. Pray that their eyes may be opened before that fateful time.

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    • fred
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:47pm

      Some of these people are beyond prayer. While protesting outside an abortion clinic years ago, I heard one of these types vehemently blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

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    • Bullhorn Guy
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:13pm

      Fred, I don’t think you quite understand the concept of the “unpardonable sin”, or blashpemy against the Holy Spirit. Do some homework, friend.

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    • AppalachianSon15
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 10:39pm

      No one is beyond prayer. All can be brought to repentence, though not all will. Look at Paul (Saul). He was guilty of murdering Christians but by the grace of God was redeemed.

      Remember, the Word endureth forever

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  • BubbaCoop
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:12pm

    Mark 10:18

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  • BubbaCoop
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:09pm

    Matthew 19:17

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  • orimaine
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:08pm

    “Blessed is the nation whose god is The Lord”. Hmmmm, blessings are falling my the wayside….wonder why?
    God help us. Come soon Lord.

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    • encinom
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:25pm

      We have been secular his our founding.

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    • Banter
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:44pm

      @encinom
      You can keep saying it, but it doesn’t make it true. Read the 5000 Year Leap and the Federalist Papers.

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:04pm

      BANTER- We are not a theocracy.

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    • Banter
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:16pm

      @This-Individual
      Never said we were. This country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. This a fact regardless of how many times someone wants to state differently.

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    • Solzhenitsin
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 3:37pm

      The government may be secular, but the population wasn‘t and isn’t. The Founders ackowledged the Creator and would have agreed that we were a Christian nation though no one ecclesiastical organization was tied to the government or would have supremacy over all others. That was the point of secularism, not this militant anti-theism we see practiced today.

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  • vennoye
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:08pm

    Guess the majority of media thinks “they are good without GOD too”!! Guess they thought it was not worth reporting………..

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  • paulusmaximus
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:08pm

    A real hard core atheist, bet he won’t touch a Quran. It doesn’t matter how many pages he destroys of any book he finds, the truth is the truth!!

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    • izzy1127
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:14pm

      Hell no they want. They know there is no retrobution coming from the christian community, but they are scared to “death” of the muslims. I think it’s time for Christians to give them something to worry about. Put more outspoken Christians in Washington and watch their freaking heads explode.

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    • riverdog1
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:15pm

      im an athiest and i don’t care to rip up any religeons books. these people (what, about twenty) don’t represent me.

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  • dealer@678
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:08pm

    Tear up a koran tough guy

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    • Gamaliel
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:21pm

      Exactly what I was going to say!

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    • Brizz
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:28pm

      Proof that he knows deep down that Christians won’t hunt him down.

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  • trolltrainer
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:08pm

    lol, we are not Muslims. Go ahead and rip them up…we will just print more…

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  • NHwinter
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:07pm

    Yes, do rip us a page of the Koran next and see how much press coverage you get at your funeral. I’m so sick of all these protests, calls to riot, etc. Dear God, leave America please if you aren’t happy here. We Conservatives are about ready to explore. I can’t take much more of these people.

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  • COFemale
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:07pm

    Glad I am not in their shoes. They can think they are spiting on us, but they are spliting on God and he does not take kindly to being spit on. Time will tell.

    Why do they care so much what I believe? Am I hurting them? NO
    For a group that seems intent in denoucing their is a God, they do spend an exoribant amount of time trying to prove their isn’t a God. If you don’t believe so be it, quit trying to be a “Right” fighter; a term that Dr. Phil coins. You’d rather be right than happy.

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  • mml35
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:07pm

    I hear hell is pretty hot and lasts forever once you arrive there. I pray you atheists have an awakening for your sake.

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  • Banter
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:05pm

    The lsm won’t cover it because it fits the liberal agenda of destroying God in our society. Our rights are God-given, and this just doesn’t work in the mind of liberal elitists who believe they are god.

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    • riverdog1
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:17pm

      banter, guess what no liberal agenda to destroy god. just in your little tiny head.

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    • riverdog1
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:19pm

      banter, never met a liberal who thought he/she was god. what are you smoking?

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    • Banter
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:43pm

      No liberal agenda to destory God. You really just posted this statement? As an atheist I’m sure this fits perfectly in with your thinking, or lack thereof. Try studying some history on the progressive agenda, and you will see that this is absolutely on the list of actions to accomplish.

      Since you fail to see subtlety I’ll point it out to you, the g in god referencing the elites is lower case. In other words, no better than worshipping obama (a false idol), as you libs seem want to do.

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  • eat-more-bacon-USA
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:04pm

    Typical obama lackeys. Yawn.

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  • Obama_Sham
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:03pm

    Lets see… Tear up a Bible and everything is fine… Try to burn a Koran, and the world turns you in to a villain… What is wrong with this picture?

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    • MaxineH20Sux
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 2:24pm

      They are as crazy as Muslims!

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    • clinker
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 8:24pm

      Which begs the question……….why do atheists ONLY go after Christians?

      Why don’t they have the balls to go after other religions DIRECTLY?

      Say, why not Islam?

      clinker  
    • ConservativePublicServant
      Posted on September 21, 2011 at 12:28am

      Amen!

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    • MAN007
      Posted on September 21, 2011 at 8:41pm

      Whats wrong is that these people are not atheists, are your ready for this? They are actually anti-Christs. No surprise there.

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  • Black Manta
    Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:02pm

    With out Jesus you go to hell wheither you believe in God or not you will be judged…If I step off a 10 story building and don’t believe in gravity…Does that stop reality?

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    • Rajabear1
      Posted on September 20, 2011 at 1:31pm

      Bingo! No truer statement have I read this morning. BTW you little beach combers, you can rip, tear, burn or whatever you would like to the Words of God. See, for us, it lives in our heart, and that my friends, you can’t touch…

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