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Calif. Man Claims He Found Two GPS Tracking Devices Under His SUV

Today, the Supreme Court listened to arguments from both sides regarding the use of GPS technology as tracking devices on cars without a warrant. During this same time, Wired reported that a San Jose, Calif., man had come forward to them stating he had found not one but two GPS devices stuck under his SUV.

Here‘s Wired’s account of the 25-year-old going only by Greg:

[...] he found the first one about three weeks ago on his Volvo SUV while visiting his mother in Modesto, about 80 miles northeast of San Jose. After contacting Wired and allowing a photographer to snap pictures of the device, it was swapped out and replaced with a second tracking device. A witness also reported seeing a strange man looking beneath the vehicle of the young man’s girlfriend while her car was parked at work, suggesting that a tracking device may have been retrieved from her car.

Then things got really weird when police showed up during a Wired interview with the man.

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Greg says he discovered the first tracker on his vehicle after noticing what looked like a cell phone antenna inside a hole on his back bumper where a cable is stored for towing a trailer. The device, the size of a mobile phone, was not attached to a battery pack, suggesting the battery was embedded in its casing.

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First GPS device found under Greg's car. (Photo: Jon Snyder/Wired)

Wired reports that Greg assumes the reason he has had GPS trackers placed under his car is because of criminal drug case involving his cousin, a Mexican citizen who has since fled back to his country. Greg decided to contact Wired after reading about Yasir Afifi, an Arab-American who also found a GPS device under his bumper without his prior knowledge.

Wired goes on to state that the day after its photographer, Jon Snyder, went to take photographs of Greg’s car in early November, reportedly a Crown Victoria with tinted windows was seen at Greg‘s girlfriend’s workplace near her car and Greg also said that his tracker had been replaced with another one.

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This is the second GPS device Greg allegedly found under his car, which replaced the first. (Photo: Jon Snyder/Wired)

According to Wired, Casey McEnry, the DEA spokeswoman in San Francisco, said they can’t comment on the “means or methods” that it uses.

So what about the cops showing up? Wired explains:

When this reporter drove down to meet Greg and photograph the second tracker with photographer Snyder, three police cars appeared at the location that had been pre-arranged with Greg, at various points driving directly behind me without making any verbal contact before leaving.

After moving the photo shoot to a Rotten Robbie gas station a mile away from the first location, another police car showed up. In this case, the officer entered the station smiling at me and turned his car around to face the direction of Greg’s car, a couple hundred yards away. He remained there while the device was photographed. A passenger in the police car, dressed in civilian clothes, stepped out of the vehicle to fill a gas container, then the two left shortly before the photo shoot was completed.

With this story released today, the Supreme Court met to hear a case on the constitutionality of using GPS devices without a warrant. We reported on the case last week, previewing the arguments with which the justices would be posed. The Associated Press reports that the justices appeared “unsettled” on the case of how or whether to regulate GPS tracking today.

The court heard arguments in the Obama administration’s appeal of a court ruling that threw out a drug conspiracy conviction against Antoine Jones. FBI agents and local police did not have a valid search warrant when they installed a GPS device on Jones’ car and collected travel information.

The justices were especially taken aback when the lawyer representing the government said police officers could install GPS devices on the justices’ cars and track their movements without a warrant.

Justice Samuel Alito captured the essence of the court’s concern when he said, “With computers around, it’s now so simple to amass an enormous amount of information. How do we deal with this? Just say nothing has changed?”

Justice Department lawyer Michael Dreeben said it would be better for lawmakers rather than judges to set limits. Dreeben said the concerns expressed Tuesday were similar to those in the earlier high court case. Thirty years ago, Dreeben said, “Beeper technology seemed extraordinarily advanced.”

He also sought to portray GPS use as one among many police tracking methods that do not call for a warrant. Police can go through people’s trash, obtain information about who they call, even follow them round-the-clock without a warrant, he said.

GPS devices are especially useful in early stages of an investigation, when they can eliminate the use of time-consuming stakeouts as officers seek to gather evidence, he said.

For all the unease the court voiced in its questions to Dreeben, the justices seemed equally torn in questions to Stephen Leckar, Jones’ lawyer, about how to impose limits on the police.

The justices are considering two related issues, whether a warrant is needed before installing the device or using the GPS technology to track a vehicle. They could determine that the installation requires a warrant, leaving the knottier issues relating to tracking to another day.

A decision should come by spring.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Comments (154)

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  • momrules
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:40pm

    We don’t have to wonder any longer whether we live in a free society or not. Any employee in any government agency has more power than the average citizen.

    I am truly afraid things have gone too far to ever go back to when America was the home of the free.

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    • calijohn
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:46pm

      “if you did nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about.”
      as stated on blaze numerous times.

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    • TheWholeTruth
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:08pm

      CaliJohn… it’s NOT whether we did anything wrong or not, it’s the simple fact that they are taking away our rights as free citizens to move about unfettered. People with the mentality of “If you haven‘t done anything wrong then there’s nothing to worry about” are the reason we’re in this fix. If it doesn’t affect your life, then why bother. Well, it might not affect your life at the moment, but rest assured, it WILL in the future. Kind of like the VIPR teams now roaming through several states along the Freeways. Sure, it’s only in a few states and on the freeways, but like the frog in the kettle, the heat is being turned up slowly and we are getting desensitized to all of it. Soon, you’ll have to show your papers to cross state lines. You are no guilty until proven innocent. For God’s sake, and that of our Republic.. WAKE UP!

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    • knighttemplar999
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:10pm

      Likewise for the police. There is no reason for them not to be monitored on camera 24/7 by citizens. If they do nothing wrong they have nothing to be worried about.

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:17pm

      “He remained there while the device was photographed. A passenger in the police car, dressed in civilian clothes, stepped out of the vehicle to fill a gas container, then the two left shortly before the photo shoot was completed.”

      This was rather irrelevant. The officer was very likely giving a stranded motorist a ride to get gas for their car…

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    • YoungBloodNews
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:25pm

      Wanna know whats scarier????

      They are putting out street lights in a few major cities that monitor, record, and track people. All linked to Big Sis…. 1984 here we are.

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    • simplejack
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:25pm

      I’m also from California. My transmission guy found one of these under my truck last year, then I found out my cell phone calls were being monitored. I’m 41 and have no criminal record, not even jaywalking. I think the surveillance might have been used by my ex and her husband to win a custody dispute. Questions asked by our mediator seemed very out of place and the mediation was very one sided. Never found out for sure.

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    • CHRIS260
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:40pm

      “if you did nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about” is the most moronic and ignorant statement regarding the intrusion into civil liberties and privacy ever uttered. What those who are in power and intruding into the lives of citizens deem to be wrong is the scary part of this statement. We need look no further into history than the recent statements by this administration that law abiding citizens were terrorists because they believe in constitutional government. Don’t be an idiot and use your brain before saying such a stupid thing.

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    • YoungBloodNews
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:49pm

      “if you did nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about”

      Yep, just what the Jewish thought too on the way to the ovens….

      And the scary thing is people like that VOTE.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:57pm

      If they install a GPS device on your car does it now become your property? What happens if you find one on your car and put in on an 18 wheeler heading out of state? Is that a crime? I so, what is the punishment?

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    • chazman
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:58pm

      … I guess if yer plannin‘ on coppin’ a couple hundred LB’s of Tex Mex Lite, and movin’ it outta Tex by vehicle, ya might wanna crawl under the ole’ four wheel mule and check out the chassis for illicit electronic devices! Otherwise, fuggituhboutit! Check out this fatty!

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    • OutOfTheAether
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:42pm

      @THE-MONK

      As far as I’m concerned, if one of these ever showed up on my car, I’d either consider it my property or road debris. No different than picking up any other piece of road debris that gets caught underneath.

      The day I find one of these under my car, is the day I seriously consider having an GPS jammer installed :)

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    • MomaGrisley2
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:06pm

      It almost sounds like a threat to the justices that the oblunder crew could put GPS units on the justices cars and track them anytime…was this a warning shot to prevent them from a non-obummer approved ruling?

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    • chazman
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:08pm

      … if I found one attached to my vehicle (A GPS device), I would remove it and toss it into a passing boxcar of a south bound freight train …

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    • shakedowncrews
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:41pm

      CaliJohn assumes that the innocent have never been railroaded by authorities and put in jail just to fill some kind of quota, or to respond to public pressure to prosecute someone–ANYONE–in high profile cases.

      Our entire form of government is based upon the accepted fact that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Our constitution does not “give authority” to the government–it LIMITS authority. This is the proof in the pudding that our founding fathers understood that over time, government ALWAYS seeks to increase its power until the citizens become subjects and liberty is just a fading memory.

      Leave it to a Californian to totally miss that point.

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    • richardwagener
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 7:29pm

      I can hear all the gasps and protests right now but I have a comment which will sound absurd, but I believe it with all my heart. I don’t know the answer other than outlaw it totally without a warrant. There are good and bad in all walks of life, even in the Supreme Court Member but here is the statement that will cause some people to go apopletic.

      “WHEN GEORGE BUSH WAS PRESIDENT RIGHT AFTER 9-11-01 AND HE ASKED FOR SPECIAL POWERES OF EVESDROPPING ETC. IT DIDN’T BOTHER ME BECAUSE i DID THEN AND I STILL DO TRUST HIM COMPLETELY. BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA I WOULDN’T TRUST HIM EVER WITH ANYTHING1″

      I was furious when some paper, I believe the New York Times, revealed we had the capability to monitor conversations and locations of terrorist completely without their knowlege until the paper told them. Of course that ended that very valuable ability of our Military. In my opinion I would charge them aiding and abetting our enemies in time of war. I don’t pretend to know all the answers but I do know we need to stay one step ahead of those who wish to destroy us, and actually boast of their goal. I believe what they were doing as far as monitoring the communications industry for certain words and phrases is a good way of protecting ourselves. Sure it can be misused but I believe our military was doing the right thing in checking it out and not just evesdropping for the sake of evesdropping. A Gun is neutral and can be used for good or bad, Intelligence is the sam

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    • UNSEEN01
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 7:37pm

      The human spirit can only be pushed so far until it pops under the pressure. The results: A REVOLUTION WAR !!!! Look at the protests that are happening today, things getting to be a bit ugly and mean lookin’. People getting ticked off and the people who are already out there ticked off, how much further will the tempers and emotions rise if their needs or concerns don’t get met. How far would one or two or three be willing to go into doing something say who knows crazy, insane, make a point. Not suggesting anything other than it‘s all about the human spirit of how far is far till it’s been pushed and something happens. Very very slowly the steam is building on people and people are getting fed up and seeing and hearing so much and a concern is building across the nation that people KNOW and can somewhat see things are changing. A great method for people to change or lose what they call their freedom(s), it‘s been used for ages and it’s a normal human reactional impulse and it’s called FEAR. Put fear in people and they will sense an urgency that well something needs to be done about this (freedom) or else something else very very bad could result or happen again. So what happens, what once was a freedom(s) is no longer a freedom(s) but a restriction(s). I used to be for the Patriot Act until I gained my senses, shame on me for being for it. FEAR invented the Patriot Act. Interesting topics to research: PSYOPS and PSYWARS – PSYCHological Warfare and PSYCHological Wars

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    • random357
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 8:34pm

      If I did nothing wrong why would any government agency be looking at me?
      The previous statement fits in well with freedom.

      What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty and probable cause?

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    • GPS-Tech
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 10:36pm

      Law enforcement officers themselves are tracked by gps devices installed on their vehicles. I know, I installed two today.

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    • GPS-Tech
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 10:46pm

      Even federal law enforcement.

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    • GPS-Tech
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 11:02pm

      @Bod
      You might not need that jammer, Google the lightsquared system. The DOD is squabbling with the FCC over wether to deploy it or not because it is believed it will interfere with the gps signal. I think the blaze may have already run this story a few months back.

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    • Ron2
      Posted on November 9, 2011 at 4:13am

      Someone needs to rein this crap in. We are becoming more of a police state by the day, before long everyone will be tatooed with a number!

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    • PossumRoadkill
      Posted on November 9, 2011 at 7:38am

      @ CALIJOHN
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:46pm
      “if you did nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about.”
      as stated on blaze numerous times.

      Horse hockey and bull spittle ! You freaking ostrich! This is just one more move towards a total police state. We are a heartbeat away from living in a police state perpetuated by the extreme elements on both sides because they both want to control what we do, what we think, what we eat, where we go. Control of the masses is what both sides want. Stand for freedom now or you will lose all freedoms you have left. Sheep like you make me even more afraid than ever. You are the kind that will just roll over and take it. This is wrong and you better get on the right side of this issue.

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    • CHEFJK26
      Posted on November 9, 2011 at 1:02pm

      Yeah thats just what the Jews thought in Germany too. I’ve done nothing wrong there is nothing to worry about. How did that work out for them?

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    • boncarbo7
      Posted on November 9, 2011 at 3:00pm

      We can all thank our Government, including police, for the police state we have been deemed to live in. And we can thank Obama and his administration for all this. This is just another reason to not reelect Obama. They should all be tried for Treason, and at the very least be charged with invasion of property and our rights as American citizen’s.

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    • jgmillionaire
      Posted on November 9, 2011 at 11:20pm

      People should really think about what you say instead of just repeating what you see “numerous times on the blaze”… When they come for your freedom, whether you have nothing to hide or not, you must resist. Is it that big of a secret that the government will take a mile when given an inch?

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    • sambachico
      Posted on November 10, 2011 at 1:38am

      @CALJON

      Only a fool would throw away his privacy and his rights. The government is out of control. They are the larger threat to our liberties and freedoms than some islamic nujobs in the middle east. Wake up and smell the tyranny, the war on terror is a convenient distraction for the state to finish their agenda. We’re 3/4 of the way to a socialist/communist republic. Once the economy implodes, the taxpayers will be on the hook, and the government will own those resources or assets not owned in full by individuals.

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  • 666Sucks
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:39pm

    What’s all the fuss? We used to think God was watching us all the time so we remained moral and kind. The Progressive left AKA communists have all but thrown God out of America, so the vacuum or the void must be filled by someone or thing! BINGO, its BIG GOV! “Those who trade freedom for Security deserve and will have neither!”

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    • hauschild
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:15pm

      Nice analogy. Hadn’t thought of that one.

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    • SimpleTruths
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:20pm

      I had no idea that God (the all powerful?) was such a wuss that he could ‘thrown out’ that easily.

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    • Jeff1000
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:46pm

      Exactly, nature abhors a vacuum. It also explains why people who don’t have God in their lives have filled that vacuum with a false Messiah like Barrack Obama.

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    • KevINtampa
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:48pm

      You hit the nail on the head here! I’ve been saying this for years, with the removal of God you will have the emplacement of Government.

      It is why I say pray for those useful idiots in the streets, they have no idea what’s coming to them. For they will suffer the most without any doubts.

      Think about this, what makes the the most “useful” thing that will come out of their tantrums?

      Most on here will say that it’s the excuse they will provide in order to bring the top down.

      That ain’t it.

      The most “useful” aspect of their uprising will be the fear of Government all of us will ultimately share after we see how the new order of things squashes the very people that brought the new order into power.

      For Christ’s sake, hasn’t anyone else learned a thing from Yuri Bezmenov?

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    • Ohello
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 11:32pm

      Agreed. Most Americans, specifically Democrats, believe the ends justifies the means. With 51% of our population now agreeing with communism, our children being taught by communists and atheists in the public schools and our churches… plus the wealth distributors and state-ists like Sheila Jackson-Lee wanting to control “All your businesses”, along with most people scared by Muslims into freedom sapping security measures by Big Sis, communist propaganda coming out of the MSM and demonizing anyone who believes in Freedom and the Constitution,…. I’d say the country is lost as we speak. Recovery would require rolling back all that the Democrat communists, and unions have implemented. But they are ready and will not allow the reversal of the PROGRESS that they have made. There are simply not enough people that believe in Freedom and the principles of our Constitution to roll back the EVIL that Democrats and citizen apathy let take root.

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  • commonsenseguy
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:39pm

    every time you go in to have your car serviced now you will have to have them search for gps devices,oil change tire rotation and gps removal. this could become a serious problem when people find them and put them on someones car they don’t like or when some one finds out how to hack one,man this is so wrong in many ways.

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  • AJAYW
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:38pm

    They will want to charge you for impeding their investigation next if you find one and remove it.

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  • jackbauer2012
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:37pm

    I would take it off and put it on the bottom side of a coast to coast Tractor-Trailor.

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    • calijohn
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:45pm

      Patriot act

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    • Countrygirl1362
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:45pm

      Better yet stick under a police car.

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    • Boris.Badenov
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:46pm

      I was wondering why Greg didn’t do the same thing. Pull into a truck stop and VOILA! Plot THIS data federales.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:46pm

      Only if the owner of the trailer knows it. Two wrongs don’t make a right. As for me? I’ll put it in a dry bag and take a nice long paddle out on Lake Erie and then “plooop”.

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    • Bill Rowland
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 8:57pm

      Make sure it is attached to the trailer. They get dropped off, loaded and unloaded, then hooked to a different tractor for a different destination. No Tractor/Driver to check on – nobody to gather data on.

      OMG

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    • jackbauer2012
      Posted on November 9, 2011 at 8:11am

      All good comments. However I think I like the police car the best.

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  • THX-1138
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:30pm

    I’m going to open a drive thru “cleaners” for your car. We scan for all known types of devices. Ten bucks if we find nothing, $50 if we do and we remove it (or we can attach it to one of our decoys (taxi, city bus, wild donkey…) for a mere $100 / week).

    We could of course offer a higher fee for a house visit to scan whatever you want. If I could get the price down I could make a fortune. And some powerful enemies, a compliment in a Fascist Police State.

    Ever wonder why no such service exists?

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    • TexasHunter
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:00pm

      THX- That sounds like capitalism! It has yet to be defeated. Keep it alive and well. Change 2012

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  • Colonel_ICE
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:29pm

    Ve vill just be checking your papers, Ja?

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  • HughG
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:28pm

    Next they will hack in on your Colonoscopy!!!!

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  • UrbanCombatSurvivor
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:23pm

    We need to consider calling for a Constitutional Amendment requiring that a person must be informed before an investigation on that person can comment. Abuse of power is rampant, and George Orwell was writing about a horrifying future..one we’re currently seeing come to life.

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    • Sheepdog69
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 5:08pm

      That makes no sense at all. A local person in your neighborhood steals an item of yours from your garage, and you think you know who it is. You call the police and they must say, “Excuse me sir, we are about to commence an investigation of you for stealing item X from your neighbors garage.” How long do you think it would be before ALL evidence linking that person to the crime would vanish?

      Cops investigate thousands of cases a year, most of involve people that are determined to really have no involvement. No sense harrassing those people. They did nothing wrong. They are simply out of the crime equation.

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    • Bluedog78
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 9:09pm

      Great idea idiot, Hello drug trafficker, you are under investigation for drug trafficking, and we have a warrant to put a GPS on your car. Oh pretty please tell us where the drugs are, pleeaseee?

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  • SREGN
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:22pm

    If they can track us, can we track them? Fair is fair.

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  • tharpdevenport
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:17pm

    So, what do you think, folks? What’s worse? The tracking devices under his car (and potentially one under his girlfriend’s car), or that Soviet Russia intimidation tactis from the “smiling” cops?

    If you answered “All of the Above”, you win!

    There’s something far, far, far worse going on out there.

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    • thekuligs
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:39pm

      All of the above, and THEN SOME. The worst is they can track anyone, if they don’t need a warrant, then they don’t need reasonable suspicion.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:07am

      I used to say the same thing about the patriot act that if I hadn‘t done anything wrong I wouldn’t care if they tapped my phone, but that was under George Bush. It was right after 9/11 and I knew that Bush was doing one heck of a job to protect us from further attacks. How ever this is Obama and the well oiled progressive machine that encourages violence among its citizens, pushes us to turn in our neighbors and fellow Americans, destroys those who oppose their agenda, somehow I am not compfortable with the extreme measures this administration has taken. Odd to me since he bashed Bush for the Patriot Act in the first place. After reading about how all of us are having trouble with our computers freezing while on this site, I am sure that they know everything there is to know about us by now. If it comes down to punishing those who speak against the progressives, then we are in all in big trouble. This is frightening that this president and the progresives would take the patriot act to this level and use it against the people rather than FOR THE PEOPLE.

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  • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:17pm

    How many cops have refused to obey this order? Any? C’mon give an example of just one. Can’t do it. You’re 4th amendment rights come behind their mob..er…union handlers and their pensions.

    Where are all of you cop apologists now?

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    • TheWholeTruth
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 4:13pm

      Arrested Occupy Protesters Told By Police: Penal Code Outstrips US Constitution

      Cops refuse to stand down and honor oath

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on November 9, 2011 at 2:16am

      There are organized groups of people who have taken the oath and will stand by it. You might be surprised. I have heard rumors and I pray that they are true. I believe that there will be many who will stand up if the time comes. What we have to realize is that Obama stated a couple of years ago that he wanted a civillian force better trained and funded than our own military. Why would he say this? The answer to that is simple, because it is part of their plan.

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  • MidWestMom
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:17pm

    Going to be a run on buying those long mirrors security teams use to look under vehicles

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  • lodgerat
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:12pm

    One by one our rights disappear. I think our constitution already answers this question. You need a warrant.

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  • V-MAN MACE
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:10pm

    ***WARNING***

    ***YOUR GOVERNMENT IS CRIMINAL***

    ***BE PREPARED FOR GOVERNMENT TYRANNY***

    Resist the Police State

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  • jrfox
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:10pm

    No one in government respects the constitution anymore.
    We need to roust them, maybe a huge public hanging to clean the houses of congress.
    WE HAVE THE POWER not them.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:21pm

      Congress? Yeah, maybe. These cops know right from wrong, at least they should. Following orders didn‘t work as a defense for the Nazi’s so why should these guys be exempt. If the Supreme Court rules against this (And of course, the courts aren’t corrupt…sarc) then cops who have performed this act and supervisors who ordered it should be subject to civil litigation.

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    • Mo Better
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:40pm

      JR -

      I often pose this musing – If Congress was in a joint session, and was being attended by MAObama and Joey “Plugs” Biden, and a meteor struck the Capitol building completely destroying everything and everybody…. would the American people be worse off, or better off?

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  • deeberj
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:10pm

    I have been reading about and hearing so much this week about gov‘t intrusion into our lives I’m freaking out. This is just another story to add to the pile. It’s very scary.

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  • cemerius
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:09pm

    ahhh shucks! Just remove the device and place it under a city bus!

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:08pm

    No warrant it can’t be used against him,although with the unconstitutional patriot act the bastards can do pretty much anything.1984?

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  • Mo Better
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:05pm

    Attention: All slaves of the United Socialist States of Amerika – report to your local law enforcement authority without delay. You will be required to stand in line, bend over upon instruction and have a GPS device inserted in your rectum. Don’t worry – the deed will be done by a certified TSA officer who has plenty of hands-on experience in these matters.
    That is all. Resume your fully monitored activities under further notice.

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  • Quasimofo
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:02pm

    Facists States of America, maybe Jesse Ventura was right after all.

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    • This_Individual
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:17pm

      Maybe. In my town, if you do not have a tree in your front yard, you will be fined.

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  • cessna152
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:02pm

    This is simply the tip of the proverbial iceberg… phones, on-star, running watches, programs,traffic cams, security cams, etc are tracking EVERYTHING we do.

    People if you think you are truly free think again… your home, car, assets, etc are all taxed and regulated to the point where the government can confiscate them with one missed payment. Aside from the 1A and 2A we are Socialists.

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    • rednana
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:27pm

      Time to concentrate on paying off the mortgage. Why isn’t Glenn stressing this?

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    • 19RANDY59
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:30pm

      1A and 2A are gone also

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:44pm

      @Rednana,

      It won’t matter. Just because you have no mortgage doesn’t mean you own your house. Using my town for example, I still must pay nearly 600 a month in taxes on my home. I also have to pay for a backflow test every year (35 bucks). There is a de facto requirement for homeowners insurance due to the liability of being a homeowner even though it’s not mandatory. If there are HOA fees then those too must be paid.

      Your car? Same. Some states tax it forever and all states require you to pay to keep driving it through registration fees.

      You don’t own stuff, the government is simply renting it to you.

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  • lukerw
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:58pm

    Is this like receiving unsolicited Books in the Mail… can you keep them, and sell them?

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    • JRook
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:04pm

      So much for the right of privacy and the need for probable cause. This is what Bush’s Patriot Act has led us into.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:31pm

      @JROOK,

      The Patriot Act got it’s start as the Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995 (which didn’t pass). It was resurrected in 2001 as the Patriot Act. And yes, while Bush has “blood” on his hands for signing it into law…it should be pointed out that its genesis not with him and that both parties were falling over themselves to vote for that horror.

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    • GrumpyCat
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:32pm

      I think so. If its on your vehicle then you own it. If they put it on your vehicle then they gave it to you.

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  • LOJ
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:57pm

    So it begins, the tracking of ordinary American citizens. This stinks to high heaven of violating our rights under the Constitution!

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 3:14pm

      Yes,sir it certainly does. It looks like it’s getting to the point where citizens will have start there own security force a national militia if you will to keep this government at bay.

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    • Columbobear
      Posted on November 8, 2011 at 6:06pm

      Michigan tried that… They’re all in jail now. I guess we just need bigger numbers, I bet I could find a few thousand people at the occupy movement that would want to join. But I am too busy working so I can pay my taxes. So anyone else without a job feel free to start it! Then just send me a message by pigeon, so I know where to show up, and so that they can’t track it.
      DOWN SIZE THE GOVERNMENT!!!

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  • Constitutional Cowboy
    Posted on November 8, 2011 at 2:56pm

    Remember that movie ‘Enemy of the State’?

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