California Bans Open Carry of Handguns
- Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:40pm by
Christopher Santarelli
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California became the fifth state to prohibit openly carrying handguns in public after Gov. Jerry Brown announced Monday that he had signed the ban into law late Sunday night amid heavy opposition from gun enthusiasts.
AB144 by state Assemblyman Anthony Portantino, D-Pasadena, makes it a misdemeanor to carry an exposed and unloaded gun in public or in vehicles, with violators facing up to a year in prison or a potential fine of $1,000 when the law takes effect on Jan 1.
The bill exempts hunting and shooting events and does not apply to those who are given permits to carry a concealed weapon by law enforcement authorities. The Blaze reported in early September on the bill’s passage in the California State Senate.
Portantino said the bill is an opportunity to prevent tragedy before it happens.
“It’s not if somebody is going be shot, it’s when somebody is going to be shot,” he said. “We have the opportunity to avoid that, and that’s why this is so critical.”
He said law enforcement officials have been concerned about the proliferation of guns in public and the tense situations that arise when someone sees another person carrying a firearm in public. He said the encounters can escalate quickly because others don’t know whether the gun is loaded or unloaded.
“Main Street California is not the Old West, and you don’t need a gun to buy a cheeseburger,” Portantino said. Top California law enforcement groups, including the California Police Chiefs Association and the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department, supported the legislation.
“By prohibiting the open carry of guns, we can now take our families to the park or out to eat without the worry of getting shot by some untrained, unscreened, self-appointed vigilante,” Dallas Stout, president of the California chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said in a statement.
Gun owners protested the legislation in April when they began carrying unloaded handguns in public places and restaurants as a political statement in Pasadena. The Blaze previously reported on footage of an calm encounter between Oceanside Police and an open carry advocate released in November 2010:
The Brady Campaign, which sponsored the legislation, said California joins Florida, Illinois, Oklahoma and Texas as the only states to ban the open carry of handguns. It said 33 states, including Pennsylvania, Michigan, Louisiana and Colorado, do no prohibit open carry. Twelve states, including South Carolina, Tennessee, Minnesota and Massachusetts require permits for open carry.
Gun advocates and most Republican lawmakers have criticized the law, saying it targets law-abiding citizens. State Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, R-Hesperia, said Brown sent the message that he has no respect for the Constitution.
“There are risks to living in a free state, and for the governor to take away and chisel away at the Second Amendment right when he claimed to respect it, it just kind of shows his true colors,” Donnelly said.
“It’s really a form of tyranny,” he said of the ban.
In addition to the ban on open-carry handguns, the San Francisco Chronicle reports that Brown signed into law a bill that will require that the information from purchasers of long guns, such as rifles and shotguns, be retained by the state Department of Justice in the same way information about handgun purchasers is retained.
Sam Paredes, executive director of Gun Owners of California, said sheriff’s departments in most major cities in California, including Los Angeles, San Francisco and San Diego, make it difficult for citizens to get concealed carry permits.
C.D. Michel, a civil rights attorney for the National Rifle Association, said the group has a lawsuit challenging the concealed carry licensing system in San Diego. He said the federal judge in the case ruled the system wasn’t a violation of the Second Amendment because residents still had the option of unloaded open carry.
“This strengthens our lawsuit because that option has been eliminated,” he said.
The Associated Press contributed to this article.
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Comments (322)
Searchingforthelight
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:00pmThis saddens me.
Report Post »ACLUHater
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:09pmWhy expect anything else from the extension of Mexico? Queers, bums, illegals, felons are all welcomed with open arms. CA only welcomes hidden, illegal guns.
Report Post »BuckeyeWithA45
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:17pmBy prohibiting the open carry of guns, we can now take our families to the park or out to eat without the worry of getting shot by some untrained, unscreened, self-appointed vigilante,” Dallas Stout, president of the California chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said in a statement.
Yes now we they only have to worry about untrained, unscreened, crack addicted, amoral criminals
Report Post »Lesterp
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:19pmWhy I am shocked, shocked I tell ya!
Report Post »Santa Cruz Kid
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:34pmAww.
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:40pm~^~v~~^~~v~^~
I am so angry over this Im almost without words. Let me make it clear for any who dont understand what was already in place. In CA you could open carry and UNLOADED firearm, with a loaded mag on your opposite side. The legislature and Moonbeam just took that away from us…. to carry a gun that isnt even load!
Worst off with this they have made it next to impossible to get a CCW here. This wasnt the only anti-gun law put into works today by Gov Moonbeam. Along with AB 144 (Ban open carry) these were also signed:
SB 819 (DROS funds can be used by DOJ)
AB 809 (Registration of long guns, that means shotguns too)
SB 610 (Standardization of CCW application process) some claim this is a good move but Im not holding my breath.
I pray Alan Gura, attorney for DC vs Heller, can step in and help us. We are being systematically disarmed while criminals and radicals continue to gun up… oh and lets not forget the school gun free zones which are magnets for crime! Progressives are destroying this country one law at a time, and still so many sit silent, idle waiting for someone to come along and do something. That someone is you! Wake up get out of the Matrix, stop playing the game TAPGW http://tinyurl.com/yhglscs
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:53pmWell, the way open carry was legal there before the ban (you had to carry your magazine separate from the gun, which had to remain unloaded), the guns weren’t much use anyway.
What do you call that, anyway? Condition five? You’ve gotta draw your weapon, then draw your magazine, then insert the magazine (now you’re in condition three), then rack the slide, THEN you’re finally ready to use the gun.
It appears to me that California wants to kill off as many taxpayers as possible…what a dumb move.
Report Post »godhead
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:16pmAtlantan with a 45 . . . “Yes now we they only have to worry about untrained, unscreened, crack addicted, amoral criminals”
Yep, them and a vice president – lifelong hunter, Wyoming resident and self-claimed arms expert – who shoots his friend in the face with a shotgun.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:23pmJerry Brown is running Full Steam Ahead!!! Toot Toot!!!! Great job Calipornia!! Can’t wait to see him handle 85% unemployment!
Report Post »INOGAWD
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:27pmWay to GO People of Mexifornia….for re-electing this
Report Post »Liberal Tur**..,F‘N IDIOT’s…First he wants to spend
money you don’t have to send Illegals to College,
and now he signs this into Law……..GAWD !!!!!!!
Tim Law
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:30pmSadden’s you my friend I live in this progressive FLEA bag ridden state. The CRPA and NRA fought this as hard as they could, but this is the land of Progressive Government, Progressive Judge’s, and progressive sheep. The conservative’s are vastly out numbered, the City of S.F. is in the same voting block as the 3 northern counties. They out voted us and we still have Boxer. We knew that Brown would steal more of our right’s and take us off the cliff with the pedal to the metal. He’s taking away our 2nd amendment rights, while he’s turning loose 30 to 40 thousand criminals. We feel real safe here in CA. NOT!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:33pmPrepare for the next California Gold Rush!!! This is bound to help their economy. :)
Report Post »Huguenot Descendant
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:36pmTexas!? Seriously?? I was curious about Florida but Texas prohibits open carry? Why?
Well from that video the officer was very nice. However as for the story itself, this is the reason if China ever calls on their debt we should just give them California. It’s already almost a completely socialist state and this just brings it one step closer to that.
There are many good people in California, but for what their government is doing those people should start to be worried about their ever expanding debt and the freedom their rights which dwindles every day.
I have been to California and I didn’t like it. From the warning signs on everything including plates, to the growing illegal immigration, their state is the first to be set up to fail. Which of course they always beg the US government for bail outs which is already in debt and is just asinine.
Report Post »AirtechJr
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:39pmThis is actually good news for California Gun Owners. California is a concealed carry “May Issue” state. The Cal Guns Foundation and California Rifle and Pistol Association should now litigate to enable all law abiding Californians to concealed carry, and turn California into a “Shall Issue” state. Not just the politically connected.
Report Post »what4
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:41pmYou now can only open carry wepons given to you by the ATF….and only if you are here in Ca illegally!
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:51pmVery sad! I thought we we’re on a roll here in Socal. But no! This is what happens when the Dems get power. They abuse for the socalled safety and welfare of all of us. A Gun is not required to buy a cheeseburger but it is nice to have when a gunman shows up to kill everyone at the burger joint like has happened many times in this once great state. Where is that confounded bridge out of here.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 9:08pmyes, they obviously are ignoring history…
Report Post »thelonious
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 9:12pmFor those of you who oppose the tight restrictions on firearms, wake up and smell your own adolescence. The gun is an extension of the emasculated male.
CPAMBA
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 9:25pmCalifornians should know that in States like Pennsylvania, honest citizens can open carry a loaded handgun, no paperwork, no problem. We can get a carry permit, no problem. (About 7% have them.)
Do we have the mayhem in the streets? Not one single event caused by the above comes to mind, and I’ve been around for over six decades. Illicit guns, bad guys, yes. But law abiding citizens with concealed or open carry, no.
If their government is correct that this is the right thing to do, can someone explain to me how Californians became so irresponsible that they have to be treated like children? I actually feel safer in Pennsylvania.
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 9:39pmI guess all you folks in California better trade in your guns for a good pair of running shoes, so you will have at least a little hope of surviving all the gang bangers….be sure to give thanks to ole’ Moonbeam, as you are fleeing for your lives.
Report Post »Charley1
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 10:49pmTexas laws concerning open carry go back to the post civilwar time period, and the influx of carpetbaggers. The state constitution says the right of the people to keep and bear arms is ok, but “the legislature may regulate the wearing of same with a view toward reducing crime”. Wording never was changed from that time period. Frankly, with current CHL ( Concealed Handgun License) laws on the books, I don’t worry much about open carry here.
Report Post »heavyguns48
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 12:37amIm glad I left California for Ohio CCW is allowed in this state, I feel a lot safer when I know I can protect myself and my family
Report Post »Ronko
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 6:56amGuns don’t kill people and they never will, it’s the triggerman that is responsible. Enjoy a rise in violent numbers Cali and screw those morons at the Brady Campaign.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 7:45amSounds like the state of California is setting itself up for a class action lawsuit for denying citizens their Constitutional 2cd rights.
Report Post »rightminded
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 7:58amThis is really sad! Taking away our Constitution that our country was formed on. Also really people how many people have been shot by someone that carries a hand gun in the open? Really they need to ask themselves that question. I bet it is close to 0… They just want control and they are going to do everything they can to get it.
Report Post »DNC TALIBAN
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 8:06amYes state Assemblyman Anthony Portantino, D-Pasadena, you go right ahead go out to a movie or dinner with the family, and I hope your stupid a$$ is gunned down by a crack head looking for a fix.
You self serving liberals make me sick, all you did was make it open season for the crooks to target law abiding people. next time there is a shoot out and the crooks start to pile up the bodies of people before your cops get there just think if someone in the crowd say at the bank or where ever could have stopped the the crooks from killing people.
Report Post »bigben357mag
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 8:31amBUILD A WALL!! AROUND CALIFORNIA!!! It is becoming an alien nation!!
Report Post »schmite123oh
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 8:36am@godhead Oh yes what a brilliant remark, take one incident and apply it to the masses, you are a dope, and I hope you never find yourself in a situation that is all to common these days, where the police show up afterwards to attempt to uncover what happened…. all anti-gun advocates are music to the criminals ears, they dont abide by any laws to begin with.
Report Post »termyt
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 9:22am@GODHEAD
The Chaney incident was a hunting accident. Hunting is exempted from the law. When was the last time someone was shot by an unloaded hand gun?
This is actually more of a First Amendment than a Second Amendment one. Folks that the establishment disagreed with were making a political statement they did not like.
Kind of like occupy wall street with out the drugs, trash, and feces.
Report Post »Jacque
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 9:29am“What is the Constitution of the United States??? Now only illegal’s and criminals with zero responsibility can open carry, good move Jerry!
Report Post »godhead
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 10:47amSCHMITE123OH and little brother Termyt . . . BANG!
Oh, geez, sorry. Did I shoot you in the face? My bad, but you know, I’m a 2nd Amendment champion. And if somebody starts shooting when I’m in line to get my Big Mac, I can take him down. Provided I don’t pee myself first. Sure hope I don’t shoot some pregnant momma by mistake. Hey, that reminds me, how many times has an armed and innocent bystander saved the multitudes of strangers from a gun-firing zombie.
(BTW: Joe Horn shooting two guys in the back – you know, Texas style – don’t count.)
Report Post »DanWesson455
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 11:13amMore true Americans will be leaving that state. Eventually all they will have are the fruits, nuts and those who want California to go back to Mexico. Then who will pay for their massive liberal deficits? I say let them have the whole ball of wax. Problems and all.
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 11:15amThe way it’s being done, I’m not for open carry. Carrying a gun unloaded makes the carrier a target for someone who wants the gun, and the carrier is useless if a crime occurs. I always carried loaded. One night, on the way to make a bank deposit, someone followed me. He followed me even though I drove at 100 MPH plus. In my state, carrying a gun is a big crime, but I’d rather the police catch me with a gun than that guy catch me without one.
Report Post »Remember. “When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.”
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Posted on October 11, 2011 at 12:44pmthis was to be predicted. the answer is to simply conceal! this lame ass law changes nothing!
Report Post »FNTM
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 4:19pmWe are the BORG – we will assimilate you.
Report Post »schroeder123
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:00pmSorry…
Report Post »I think Jerry Brown, the governor of California, need to study the constitution of the United States.
Who want’s to vacation in California when every criminal has a gun , and you don’t, because you are a Law abiding citizen. Sounds to me like you are walking into peril, when you visit the state.
I would suggest that Gov Brown step down.
bernbart
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:46pmCA is very safe because we don’t have right wingers carrying guns.
Report Post »seldomscene
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:52pmYou only talk about the constitution was when Bill was being impeached. Remember every Dem had the picket version? Now it is just a glint in the eye of the blue dress.
Report Post »jcasos
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:05pmBERNBART – You may want to check your statistics. California has 15.5% of all GUN crime in the country. If every state had an equal share, it would be 2%, but California has nearly 8 times that. This ban JUST went into effect, yet the bans on “large” magazines have been banned, removable magazines, pistol grips, muzzle brakes, folding/telescoping stocks, etc. The next state below California is Illinois (Department of Justice [BJS], 2011). Also gun crime is a CRIME, which is already illegal, yet that lil‘ ole’ law on the books didn’t stop them did it? California is also a “may-issue” state, that is you cannot conceal carry a weapon unless you’re a “morally upstanding citizen with a reason to carry (i.e. security guard)”. The judge, the cops. Since they‘re the ones who don’t want guns, how many CCW permits do you think they issued in 2010? 718. That seems like a lot, but there were 12,050 applications submitted (CLEO, 2011). That’s a 6% issue! You’d be better playing the lottery.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:27pmBrown stepping down??? Not going to happen. One again, the gun-rights people were correct. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns….My suggestion to the formerly law abidding people of Kalifornia is to BECOME OUTLAWS!
I carried concealed for years prior to finally getting a legal permit in my home state (a shall issue state, of course), and when I visit Kalifornia, I still carry whether legal or not!
If the gang bangers carry illegally, then WHY NOT THE AVERAGE CITIZEN????
think about it!
Report Post »INOGAWD
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 9:32pmGawd, You got Moonbeam, Pelooosi, Boxter,Findstin and Sancheez..
Report Post »Man are you Guy’s in Deep Do Do….Got a winnin’ Team here, to put
your once Great State right down the toilet..
Wolf
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 10:54pmIt’s Caliliberia, is there anything more to expect from people living there- such as common sense politicians? Look at what they continuously send to DC. To think otherwise is to have your head where Bernhart’s is… surrounded by a sphincter.
Report Post »VigilantGuardShark
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 4:01amI think the thing to buy, if you live in Calipornia, is LUGGAGE! Move the Hell out of that state and leave it to the Liberal Progressives, they’ll be starving and killing themselves by the thousands, and soon you’l be able to move back and pick up the pieces without them.
Report Post »TxMadMac
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:59pmWell jerry you better hope there’s a cop glued to your side when some nutcase decides to take you down ! Just call me RET cause frankly my dear, I don’t give a da……
Report Post »pierrepierre
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:59pmWhere is the data supporting “open carry” related crimes? It seems to me that the violent crimes are carried out by either career criminals or crazies, niether of which is concerned about gun violence. How often have you heard, “not another open carry shooting!””
The only solution for CA in this and other cases is for people to move to “free states” until it is bled dry enough to allow law abiding, freedom loving folks back from VA, Texas and the like.
Report Post »bernbart
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:04pmI always assume anyone who feels the need to carry a hand gun is probably involved in some kind of criminal activity, or an angry violent person and someone you really need to stay way from.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:16pm@ Bernbart You should never assume anything,U.S citizens have a right to bear arms regardless of all these unconstitutional laws that are passed to violate that right.The main purpose of the second amendment is to protect the people from a tyrannical government and secondly self defense from someone trying to do you harm.
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:27pmWell there’s an old say bernbart that when you assume you make an ass out of u and me. In other words don’t read a book by its cover. A person who carries a fire arm LEGALLY will be carrying it in a responsible fashion i. e. in a holster. A criminal will still carry theirs except you won’t be able to see it tucked in their waist band. Now you tell me which is more dangerous the handgun that you can see or the one that you can’t?
Report Post »TSUNAMI-22
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:29pm@ bernbart
I always assume anyone who feels the need to carry a hand gun is probably involved in some kind of criminal activity, or an angry violent person and someone you really need to stay way from.
Report Post »~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That is not an assumption, it’s a false delusion on your part. But you’ll be happy soon enough when concealed carry is verboten as well.
MHP
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:32pmbernbart
Wyoming is a “free state” and open carry is legal here. and most of us do carry guns for protection.
We have one of the lowest crime rates in the USA
We can now carry concealed without getting a permit.
Report Post »Zoe
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:40pmAlice in Wonderland
Report Post »Zoe
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:43pm@ bernbart
“I always assume”……………………………………….. Fail
Report Post »DavidFactual
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:45pm@BernBart
Report Post »According to you: Police, Sheriff Deputies, Marshalls, etc, who carry a hand gun is probably involved in some kind of criminal activity, or an angry violent person. Well, in the case of some Fullerton CA police – they are both angry, violent, and killers.
mmabri
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:48pm@Bernbart – Thats your problem you assume things rathar then finding out the facts. Remember the old saying “Don’t judge a book by its cover” next time you want to assume something.
Report Post »C. Schwehr
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:33pmYou have a good point, sir. The Constitution was originally intended so that the SOVEREIGN states could run their own affairs. If the citizens didn’t like the way a state was being run, they could either change it or move to another state that was more to their liking.
Report Post »HATE LIVING IN KALIFORNIA? GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE!!!!
Oh, and “BERNBART”: A person with your thinking is actually more dangerous than a person who carries a gun (whether legal or not) since you assume anyone who carries for their own defense is actually the bad guy….a very stupid point of view, and one that could get yourself and others killed!
Tim Law
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:38pmMy reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. Thomas Jefferson
Report Post »toto
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:55pmBernbart, you are so wrong.
Report Post »gglass
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 10:58pmBernbart… That would be an uninformed and stupid assumption. Let’s look at REAL statistics, which were compiled by the Texas Department of Public Safety. If we look at the latest report from 2009, we find the following information on CHL holders (Legal Gun Carriers):
Total Convictions in Texas – 65,561
Convictions of CHL Holders – 101
CHL Holder Percentage of Total Convictions – 0.1541%
Of all demographic segments of the Texas population measured each year, CHL (Legal Gun Carriers) have the lowest crime rate Per Capita.
So much for your idiotic assumption.
Report Post »Buck Shane
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 12:54pm@ bernbart
Report Post »I would like you to post a sign at your house.
“I do not believe in guns, and I will never use a gun to protect myself or my property.”
You are safe in your house now because the bad guys do not know its you who lives there. They are afraid it me.
You put up that sign, then write about how unsafe gun owners make you – if you live.
momprayn
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:59pmHa! Those were some of my thoughts……..
Report Post »“Don’t need a gun to buy a cheeseburger”? No? Haven’t they noticed the increased violence at these kind of places? And especially with the number of illegals there causing trouble plus Muslims who are getting more bold? And that one guy actually believed Brown when he had said in his campaign that he respected the Second Amendment?? Haven’t they learned yet that you can NEVER believe a Democrat/liberal (besides RINO’s)? Are they ignorant of their agenda about this??!!!
Guess they’ll all have to learn the hard way………….tragicly.
momprayn
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:06pmThis was misposted – reply to RICK494 —
Report Post »“The Old West was much safer in the 1800′s than California is today.”
chips1
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:08pmEven Linda Ronstadt hauled a$$.
Report Post »VigilantGuardShark
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 4:06am“don’t need a gun to buy a cheeseburger…” If memory serves me correctly, there have been a few restaurant murderous rampages ended by somebody just happening to have brought their gun with them to ‘buy a cheeseburger’. What a brainless buffoon to have made that statement.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:59pmWhat a fantasy land, California! I am sooooo blessed not to live there. Those of you who do live there and have a brain–I would say either fix it or ditch it. Love my Colorado.. We got the highground!
Report Post »Twinspeedr
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:57pmAs if anyone with a brain needed another reason to leave California…
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:12pmBecause I can’t open carry? Not enough reason for me to leave.
Report Post »donfield
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:55pmLet’s see, no one has been shot because of open carry. Progressive logic says we better ban it so nobody gets shot. Progressives, creating laws and reigning in liberty solving problems that don’t exist. Sounds about right to me.
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:06pmHopefully Dallas Stout or his family are never in a situation where they wished some citizen had a gun and the police weren’t close. Too bad.
Report Post »Jerbear1098
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:55pmCorrection…. Michigan is an Open Carry State. the Brady Bunch is wrong.
What part of this don’t they understand?????
MI Constitution Article 1 Section 6
§ 6 Bearing of arms.
Report Post »Sec. 6. Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.
MrMagoo
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:10pmYou may have misread it JERBEAR1098
It said 33 states, including Pennsylvania, Michigan, Louisiana and Colorado, do not prohibit open carry. The Blaze had a typo on the ‘not’.They forgot the ‘t’.
Michigan doe’s not prohibit open carry.
Report Post »ImWatchingYouAll
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 10:54pmMichigan DOES open carry. I OPEN Carry. I Concealed Carry. We are a Constitution abiding State. Check your facts before you post
Report Post »ImWatchingYouAll
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 10:58pmSorry, I misread your post. My Bad. I’ll shoot off my big toe in repentance.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 1:11amIMWATCHINGYOUALL, please don’t shoot off your big toe. You might need it to run if you ever visit Kalifornia.
Report Post »hempstead1944
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:55pmHey, all you California low lifes……it is open season on your fellow man!
Report Post »chips1
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:55pmWhat does he mean “you don’t need a gun to buy a cheeseburger?” That’s not what they said in San Ysidro when McDonalds became a killing field. Had someone been armed, Huberty wouldn’t have killed so many children and adults. Jerry Brown is an IDIOT.
Report Post »toto
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 9:01pmExactly right.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:55pmWay to go Jerry dumb A$$ you just made the law abiding citizens less safe,now tax them and regulate them out of business moron.
Report Post »schroeder123
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:55pmFIRE That asshiole Brown. He is a communist ! and has no Idea what the constitution says.
What an Idiot !
Report Post »MaxineH20Sux
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:54pmi never could understand these anti-gun fools! criminals will get guns if they are legal or illegal. Now they are allowing criminals to have guns and people of California cannot protect themselves or their families. I seriously do not know how people live in the liberal states! My list of states i would move to or visit is 3!
Report Post »Runeback
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:52pmAssemblyman Anthony Portantino, D-Pasadena, said; “It’s not if somebody is going be shot, it’s when somebody is going to be shot,” he said. “We have the opportunity to avoid that, and that’s why this is so critical.” “Main Street California is not the Old West, and you don’t need a gun to buy a cheeseburger,”
“By prohibiting the open carry of guns, we can now take our families to the park or out to eat without the worry of getting shot by some untrained, unscreened, self-appointed vigilante,” Dallas Stout, president of the California chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said in a statement.
The reasoning from Democrats is absurd. People are being shot regardless of how many laws you impose on Americans, open carry would at least put everyone on a level playing field, and give a law abiding citizen the same opportunity to defend themselves against those that have no regard for the law and carry whether or a not a politician tells them the can’t.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:56pmI would be happy sitting on a bus late at night with another rider who has a hand gun on his hip for all to see. No one will try anything on that bus.
Report Post »ColdDeadHands
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:20pm“”"“By prohibiting the open carry of guns, we can now take our families to the park or out to eat without the worry of getting shot by some untrained, unscreened, self-appointed vigilante”"”"
Better outlaw open “driving” of cars then too, Jerry! Cause on your way to the park you may get involved in an accident with, or run over by, some untrained, unlicensed, uninsured, illegal or drunk individual!! Much greater odds on that happening!
Report Post »rockstone
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:32pm@ colddeadhands.
Outlawing the open driving of cars?
That’s next month.
Report Post »BO_Bill
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:53pmSometimes it would be nice to pack when going out to buy pancakes.
Report Post »OKLAPatriot
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:58pmWhat about those poor Guardsman minding their own business at IHOP?
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:51pmBut those 3 people in California that are licensed to carry i.e. the Governor’s protection detail! What a damn joke the unloaded open carry law was crap too, what‘s the point if it’s not loaded? I tried to apply for a concealed carry years ago and when I called to ask questions I was pretty much told “most law enforcemnt shootings are from off duty cops, so even they don’t have a right to carry concealed”…..It wouldn‘t be so bad if California wasn’t spending money like heron addicts and will EXPECT the Federal Government (the other 49 states) to bail their azzes out!!!!
Report Post »Popp40
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:51pmOnly criminals and police officers will be carrying guns……and remember….cops do not have to stop a crime, they only have to come after it and take a report! I bet good old Brown is able to carry a gun…yet he doesn’t want us “commoners” to be able to carry them. People wake up they are taking our ability to protect ourselves away and putting us at their mercy…..and by the looks of it they will have no mercy!
Report Post »db321
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:51pmI smell trouble coming in CA – get you concealed Carry Permit – now.
Report Post »Jerbear1098
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:57pmNo it’s still a shall issue state. Try and get one. Never happen. However, there is no law against open carry of a long gun.
Just a thought.
Report Post »stifroc
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:03pmSooooo who’s to say at the playground, the restaurant, or the soccer field that some criminal illegally carrying an illegal firearm wont just start shooting people?
This law, and ALL gun laws all boil down to people wanting the ILLUSION of safety.
The only people who obey gun laws are lawful citizens.
Report Post »Joshuadfurlong
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:49pm“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands, which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” Samual Adams
“Give me LIBERTY or give me DEATH!.” Patrick Henry
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 1:28amAmazing, how far down the slippery slope of timidity, fear and serfdom that we have traveled. In the process many have directly or indirectly given up freedom, liberty and “the animating contest” thereof. What is probably worse, they have sold out the lives and the future freedoms of their children and grandchildren as well. Shameful, disgusting and reprehensible. Not too many Sam Adams and Patty Henry’s around, but there are more than you might think. Time for them to stand up, be heard, and put feet to what needs to be done.
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:49pmthank god for that man
Report Post »Popp40
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:57pmYep, thank God for that man….he is making sure that you have no ability to protect yourself! Plus, he is taking money from you to pay for illegals to go to college, whereas the legal citizens have to pay an arm and leg to go to college…..yep thank God for that man!
Honestly are you that stupid not to see the writing on the wall? Unless of course you are one of the criminals, ganster, or illegals that will still carry and get away with it. Really you need to wake up and see you are becoming nothing more than a SLAVE
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:03pmYes thank God for Jerry,hey Gov just keep hittin that bong and come up with some more great ideas dumba$$.
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:07pmpopp- you are wrong about me and are terribly misinformed about guns and safety
Report Post »Steelhead
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:12pmprogressive slave- you sound angry,why don’t you go kick your dog
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 7:21pmLead head You sound foolish save your stupid advice tool.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 1:32amSteelhead, your moniker would be more appropriately served by changing it to MUSHHEAD. Then your comments would make much more sense.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on October 11, 2011 at 1:41amSTEELHEAD, or is it MUSHHEAD, if the rest rest of California views the world in the same myopic way, which appears to be the case, it’s no wonder Kalifornia is going to He[[ in a hand basket.
Report Post »Derek01
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:49pmProving once again that it’s government people should be most afraid of
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:59pmIt’s the reason we have the second amendment to keep the government from oppressing the people,the situation we’re in now with the Marxist in chief.
Report Post »ICANHANDLETHETRUTH
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:48pmNow only the criminals have guns !!!!!!!!!! This Jerry Brown is a complete tool !!!!!!!!!!! Where is the NRA on this ?????????????????????
Report Post »randy
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:47pm“By prohibiting the open carry of guns, we can now take our families to the park or out to eat without the worry of getting shot by some untrained, unscreened, self-appointed vigilante,” Dallas Stout, president of the California chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said in a statement.
Nope! you’ll be shot by some gang banger you idiots!
Report Post »fixer
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:46pmAhhh California…land of the loony tunes….what will you do when the muslim wars start? i bet you’d better start packing heat then if you want to survive.
Report Post »touch
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:57pmWho cares…The Illegal Mexican gangs and every other gang member and terrorist group who don’t give a CRA! about laws are telling California lawmakers to take their fine print and stick it where the sun don’t shine. They will whip out their weapons whenever the he!! they feel like it and do whatever the He!! the want with them to whomever the He!! they want to do it to!!!!
Get over yourself!
Report Post »Rick494
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 6:45pmThe Old West was much safer in the 1800s than California is today.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 8:14pmThere were also considerably less people here.
Report Post »jb.kibs
Posted on October 10, 2011 at 9:10pmand to think, Mexico is right there and China is just a boat ride away…
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