Can Medical Marijuana Mix With Concealed Guns? Pistol-Packing Pot-Smoker Says ‘Yes’
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Willis shows her medical marijuana card and concealed handgun permit.
WHITE CITY, Ore. (AP) — Cynthia Willis calls up and down the firing range to be sure everyone knows she is shooting, squares up in a two-handed stance with her Walther P-22 automatic pistol and fires off a clip in rapid succession.
Willis is not only packing a concealed handgun permit in her wallet, she also has a medical marijuana card. That combination has led the local sheriff to try to take her gun permit away.
She is part of what is considered the first major court case in the country to consider whether guns and marijuana can legally mix. The sheriffs of Washington and Jackson counties say no. But Willis and three co-plaintiffs have won in state court twice, with the state’s rights to regulate concealed weapons trumping federal gun control law in each decision.
With briefs filed and arguments made, they are now waiting for the Oregon Supreme Court to rule.
When it’s over, the diminutive 54-year-old plans to still be eating marijuana cookies to deal with her arthritis pain and muscle spasms, and carrying her pistol.
“Under the medical marijuana law, I am supposed to be treated as any other citizen in this state,” she said. “If people don’t stand up for their little rights, all their big rights will be gone.”
A retired school bus driver, Willis volunteers at a Medford smoke shop that helps medical marijuana patients find growers, and teaches how to get the most medical benefit out of the pound-and-a-half of pot that card carriers are allowed to possess. She believes that her marijuana oils, cookies and joints should be treated no differently than any other prescribed medicines. She said she doesn’t use them when she plans to drive, or carry her gun.
“That’s as stupid as mixing alcohol and weapons,”‘ she said.
Oregon sheriffs are not happy about the state’s medical marijuana law.
“The whole medical marijuana issue is a concern to sheriffs across the country who are involved in it mainly because there is so much potential for abuse or for misuse and as a cover for organized criminal activity,” said Washington County Sheriff Rob Gordon, who became part of the Willis case because his office turned down three medical marijuana patients in the Portland suburbs for concealed handgun permits. “You can‘t argue that people aren’t misusing that statute in Oregon.
“Not everybody, of course. Some have real medical reasons. But …the larger group happens be people who are very clearly abusing it.”
The sheriffs argue that the 1968 U.S. Gun Control Act prohibits selling firearms to drug addicts, and they say that includes medical marijuana card holders. Their briefs state that they cannot give a permit to carry a gun to someone prohibited from buying or owning a gun.
But the cardholders have won so far arguing this is one situation where federal law does not trump state law, because the concealed handgun license just gives a person a legal defense if they are arrested, not a right.
Oregon’s attorney general has sided with the marijuana cardholders, arguing that the concealed handgun license cannot be used to buy a gun, so sheriffs who issue one to a marijuana card holder are not in violation of the federal law.
Willis’ lawyer, Leland Berger, says it is much simpler.
The sheriffs “are opposed to the medical marijuana act,” Berger said from Portland. “It’s not based on reason. That’s how they are.”
Rural southern Oregon is awash with marijuana — legal and illegal. Arrests for illegal plantations are commonplace. The region’s six counties also have the highest rate of medical marijuana use in the state. There are also a lot of guns in the Rogue Valley, where Willis lives.
Sixteen states now have medical marijuana laws, according to NORML, an advocacy group. There is no way to determine how many medical marijuana cardholders also have gun permits. Patient lists are confidential, and an Oregon court ruled the sheriffs can’t look at them.
NORML executive director Allen St. Pierre said Oregon courts have not been entirely medical marijuana friendly. While they have upheld the right to pack a pistol, they have also ruled that employers can fire people who use medical marijuana.
“A person who uses medical cannabis should not have to give up their fundamental rights as enumerated by the Constitution,”‘ St. Pierre said.
Gordon said he expects the gun issue to come up in other states with medical marijuana laws.
Oregon was the first state in the country to decriminalize small amounts of marijuana, with legislation enacted in 1973. And it was right behind California in making medical marijuana legal when voters approved a ballot measure in 1998. But voters here stopped short of following California all the way to selling medical marijuana to cardholders at dispensaries. A ballot measure failed last year, so patients still have to grow their own or get someone else to grow it for them at cost, with no profit margin.
Oregon is one of 37 states where the sheriff has to give a concealed handgun permit to anyone meeting the list of criteria, though they have some discretion to say what those criteria are. They generally require people to be 21, a U.S. citizen, pass a gun safety course, and have no criminal record or history of mental illness, drug or alcohol abuse, or domestic violence.
The issue doesn’t really come up in California, where concealed handgun licenses are much harder to get.
If Willis loses, she plans to carry her pistol out in the open, in a holster on her hip, which is, under Oregon law, perfectly legal.
“I‘ve been done harm in my life and it won’t ever happen again,”‘ she said about her reasons for wanting the gun. “I’ve never had to draw it”‘
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Comments (136)
CatB
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:57pmI know from experience (not me but what it did to a friend and from working in Community Mental Health) weed can cause paranoia .. not someone I would want to have easy access to a gun. I am a strong Second Ammendment supporter but some things do not make sense … and this is one of them. My former friend (who was normal before over 30 years of MJ use) is not someone who should have a CCW or a gun for that matter.
Report Post »Ashrak
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 6:49pmMany Muslims say women must not be allowed to drive or dress as they please either.
Think about what you are saying, please.
Report Post »REVENANT
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:56pmI see no conflict here. Get drunk, and do something stupid with a gun, you’re in trouble. Get stoned, do something stupid with a gun, you’re in trouble. Personal responsibility is a function of character, not law. They do go hand in hand, but one does not always go in lockstep with the other. We all know that at the very least, pot will become decriminalized. The calmer mind realizes that the end times are not going to ensue as a result. It’s generally the doctrinaire and inflexible mind that has the “recoil in horror” reaction. I do not.
Report Post »rienheart
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:50pmIt’s all about FREEDOM and the Constitution. Even George Washington Puffed, probably even during the French and Indian War, maybe even the Revolutionary War too. Not to mention most of the Generals and Officers even Enlisted Men who drank before battles. Maybe some Smoked too. Who Knows, The Government (Feds) should stick to what the Constitution tells them, and that is Leave the People the Hell Alone.
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 3:15pmWhile I doubt GW smoked any weed, and I do not use any illegal drugs, I agree that the Govt needs to be in the Constitutional Rights business and stay OUT of our private business!
Report Post »Pattondog
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:49pmbetter go out and confiscate of those who are on prozac and\or those who sip a glass of whiskey on the weekends too.
Report Post »texasfarmer
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:49pmHow are you gong to hit anything with the giggles?
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 3:15pm@texasfarmer,classic. i would like to see her hit a wild hog standing right in front of her,much less on the run,heck if she was around with a gun,i would not even go outside.
Report Post »texasfarmer
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 5:11pmLike the kids say, “The safest place is in front of her”. What a grip.
Report Post »reckless
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:44pmIf any deaths are directly related to being “high”, I would be willing to suggest that the “stoners” actually wing up shooting themselves.
Report Post »Marijuana does not tend to lead to violent acts, just some pretty stupid acts.
vtech61
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:40pmI don’t believe a Walther P-22 in an ‘automatic’ pistol.
If I’m NOT mistaken, it’s is a semi-automatic pistol.
PLEASE dont get like the Left and start miss naming items
like P-22s as ‘automatics’, when in fact they aren’t.
An automatic weapon will fire as many rounds as you have
in the mag (if you desire to empty the mag) with one pull of the trigger.
A semi-automatic weapon will only fire one round each time the trigger is pulled.
Hope this helps. :-)
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 2:13pmYeah…
But semi-automatic handguns are routinely called automatics, even by gun dealers, just like cartridges are called bullets and magazines are called clips.
I would not make an issue out of it, it is pointless anyway…
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 3:00pmI get what you’re saying, but in the handgun case they are commonly referred to as automatics. For instance, just last weekend I bought a box of .45 auto ammo and it shot just fine through my 1911 when I loaded it into my MAGAZINE.
Report Post »drago
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 3:38pmSemi-autos are called automatics, only because they auto load, not because they spew bullets with one trigger pull, revolvers, lever action, bolt action etc…will never be called automatics, simply because of how each round is chambered…..
Report Post »HammerOfJustice
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:40pmMagazines, NOT CLIPS
Report Post »DimmuBorgir
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:36pmSeriously????
Do any of you remember Vietnam??? Guns and pot mixed just fine there. I myself shoot sometimes with my friend on his farm and we smoke the whole time.
There is no problem with smoking weed and shooting a gun.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:36pmAnother knee jerk headline but once this is thought through…
I do not drink or smoke anything, haven’t in many years. I used to be a pothead and always preferred being stoned to drunk.
Firearms do not mix with any mind altering substance, not even prescription stuff that makes you drowsy. That said, I would much rather be around someone stoned with a gun than drunk with a gun. Pot does not come anywhere near effecting motor skills like alcohol does. It does make the brain sluggish though and it does slow down reaction time. Still…Any stoner can function just as well stoned as straight…They used to think I was stoned at work when I did not come in stoned! With pot you pay close attention to detail and get into a rhythm…
But this is all moot anyway as it is legal to drink and own a firearm. I think pot should be given at least the same status as alcohol. Believe me, a drunk is more likely to fire in anger or by accident than a pothead.
Report Post »donewithnews
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:58pmYou hit the nail on the head, Trolltrainer.
Report Post »TheWatcher
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:36pmWomen, guns and drugs…. sounds like the theme of a cheep B movie…
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svedka
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:35pmMedical Marijuana, and she says other people are abusing.? A little self righteous. I would like to see more people be less dope happy, prescription or otherwise. Living stoned is living stoned wether you are doped, drunk or pilled. I hope we don’t have to get all sensitive and politically correct about this too now. I don’t want to trust my life in the hands of anyone popping pain pills, sleeping pills or smoking pot thank you!
Report Post »country_hick
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 3:32pmPrilosec OTC – mood and vision altering; Inderal – mood changes; Theophylline – sleeplessness, behavior changes; birth control pills – mood swings; Aspirin – confusion. And lest we forget coffee (caffeine – mood altering).
MAYBE…
Go through the PDR and check out the side effects for everything listed therein has some type of side effect. There are also certain physical things that happen to some people in regular cycles that are mood altering. Should they also be prohibited from carrying?
Report Post »Lucent
Posted on April 5, 2011 at 1:42amHow about a hormonialy challenged persons, diabetic mood swings and we can’t forget about women carrying guns during PMS!!!
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:30pmIt is predicted that Arizona will experience ONLY an extra 20 to 40 highway deaths every year and an additional 2,000 to 3,000 high school dropouts each year, based on studies done where medical marijuana is legalized…
Arizona is the only state with a medical marijuana law that includes anti-discrimination language, so landlords can‘t evict pot smokers and employers can’t automatically fire them….
I am now offically ASHAMED of my state!
Report Post »libtardian-refugee
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 6:05pmsounds like you came up with a good arguement for prohibition
Report Post »KeninMontana
Posted on April 5, 2011 at 4:19amLook at history on that. Just look how well it worked out for Chicago, the thugs and bootleggers didn’t go away,they’ve been running the city ever since.
Report Post »Charles Hopewell
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:38pm@AzDebi
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:30pm
It is predicted that Arizona will experience ONLY an extra 20 to 40 highway deaths every year and an additional 2,000 to 3,000 high school dropouts each year, based on studies done where medical marijuana is legalized…
Arizona is the only state with a medical marijuana law that includes anti-discrimination language, so landlords can‘t evict pot smokers and employers can’t automatically fire them….
I am now offically ASHAMED of my state!
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Wow. I am also officially ashamed of your state. I am ashamed that there are still back-wards thinking prudes, who lose all respect when they made bigoted comments like you just did.
keep on taking your prescription meds hypocrite.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:30pmOf course you don’t want someone who is impaired re judgement, etc. to have a gun in their hand, but I don’t know that much about it to really know for sure and/or if it’s the same with all. Usually not. I’m a Conservative Christian, but when it comes to the legalization of marijuana I may be for that. I think it really does serve as a helpful medication. The Bible says that the “leaves” of plants have medicinal properties. I think even tobacco leaves do too but taken in a different form than smoking. They just haven’t discovered, proved it. I don’t know if I agree with the theory that if you legalize it, it’ll get worse either. Questionable.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:29pmSure it can. MJ makes one calmer and rather unmotivated to commit violence or even get up off the couch. It’s a struggle sometimes to even pick up the phone and order pizza due to a general lack of ambition when smoking the substance, though I hear munchies override lethargy in that case.
Alcohol on the other hand exacerbates bad personality issues and is a “usual suspect” with a lot of in-home type shootings. Some states have no issue with people packing and entering a bar (or even drinking as long as they stay below the legal limit). Yet, nobody questions “can alcohol mix with concealed guns”.
Most of the hyperventilation I see over marijuana stems from non-facts invented during the inception of the so called “war on drugs” by the AMA at the turn of the 20th century.
As a note, because I know it will be presumed, I do not and have never smoked marijuana nor taken an illicit drug in my life.
Report Post »SanDiegoCountyCitizen
Posted on April 6, 2011 at 12:02amWasn’t it Jefferson who was growing MJ for recreational use?
Report Post »pablodez
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:28pmPot makes people inherently non violent. They would rather eat cheeto’s.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:30pmI just posted the same thing above, lol!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:25pm@Mcfinch
Agreed, AZ law for that garbage is about to go into effect; I have to wonder how high the crime rates and accidents with firearms via stoned folks are going to get from now on.
Report Post »Ashrak
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 6:42pmWith all due respect Snow,
You should research the lack of merit what you cite carries in the decision arena. The “interest balancing approach” has been specifically dismissed as a decider by SCOTUS. You see, it doesn’t matter if those rates, or others, go up or down – it simply doesn’t matter! Rights are Rights regardless and government is not empowered to decide if those rights are really worth insisting upon. That power have been removed from its hands and enumeration has everything and then some to do with that reality.
Report Post »Charles Hopewell
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:34pm@Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:25pm
Agreed, AZ law for that garbage is about to go into effect; I have to wonder how high the crime rates and accidents with firearms via stoned folks are going to get from now on.
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Did you hear that sound snow? That was my respect for you flying out the window.
Report Post »goatkid
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:23pmIf they make it law that no one with a medical marijuana card can carry, the they will just keep going. If you have prescripton sleeping pills, antidepressants, or any drug that could possibly make you impaired. Most people who carry a concealed weapon are not going to carry it when they have been smoking up, just as no one who has taken sleeping pills would drive, unless they are completely stupid. If they start with this, they will slowly work towards making it illegal to OWN a gun, if you are on a prescription that causes impairment.
Report Post »teachermitch32
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:36pmI do agree with your statement.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:22pmI am surprised the politicians have not pushed legal pot so they could tax it.
If politicians could figure out how to tax flatulence,
You KNOW THEY WOULD
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:19pmjust like driving, under the influence is illegal.
Report Post »Its Gonna Getcha
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:15pmDo guns and marijuana go together? You might be able to make a bong out of a gun.
Report Post »hickoryrat
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 3:03pmYou ever hear of a Nam shotgun?
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:12pmOkay, she’s from Oregon, which says a lot, Liberal haven.
Report Post »Medical marijuana, I‘m not sold on it but I haven’t read the studies. Two decades ago I used to smoke that stuff, and I wouldn’t have wanted me to carry a gun back then. Marijuana impairs judgement, and vision, both of which are critical in using guns.
Personally, I think all liberals should voluntarily turn in their guns, after all they are against the second amendment right, so prove it in your actions.
So dear lady, do everyone a favor and don’t carry while high, thanks.
ozchambers
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 2:54pmActually, she states that she doesnt carry (at least not a gun) when high.
Report Post »libtardian-refugee
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 5:52pmGuess what, some of us conservatives smoke pot as well. As for my self it’s at night before bed, after I take off my gun,a hell of a lot better for you than barbituates
Report Post »PalinPal
Posted on April 6, 2011 at 1:17amShe is from Southern Oregon an extremely conservative part of Oregon. We Love our Guns here~~
Report Post »Large community of ex- military & law enforcement. With good MMJ laws and Proper education there is no more of a risk than alcohol. Alcohol and guns never mix. Neither does MJ but I think she already said that.
You looking for more Nanny State???????
efialtis
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:09pmNO!
Report Post »Never mix any mind altering substances with Firearms.
I don’t care how safe you think it is…
Same with Driving… these activities take 100% of a person’s abilities, to be used correctly without harm to innocent people, and those that take that responsibility lightly should lose their privilege and or right.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:40pmDriving does not take 100% of your abilities. If it did it would be functionally impossible to do things like turn on the radio, sing along with songs, talk on a CB radio or think about what you’re going to do once you get home after work (while driving). Driving takes being normally alert, and a pair of feet to reach the pedals and hands to steer (or an artificial limb(s) to make it possible), along with a basic understanding of traffic laws and some level of common courtesy.
The only driving I know of that can demand a lot of brain function/attention from a driver is high speed/race car/stunt driving. And even that isn’t 100%.
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:44pmInitially, I had the same reflexive reaction to the story, but I read the critical part of the story where she is quoted as saying she doesnt carry her weapon (or drive) when she is using the medicinal marijuana. If her CCW permit were revoked for simply being prescribed this drug, then any person who was prescribed any pain meds or other mood-altering drugs such as anti-depressants, etc. would also fall under the same criteria for having their permit revoked. Basically, that kind of law implies that any person who has a legally prescribed drug in their system AT ANY TIME, regardless of whether or not they are actually carrying their weapon while under the influence should have their permit revoked. And for that matter, and under that criteria, it could then be reasonably argued that any person of legal drinking age could be subject to CCW permit revocation because it is possible they could be using a mood-altering substance known as alcohol.
I believe that she (and any other law-abiding citizen) has a Constitutionally protected right to carry arms and furthermore that it shouldnt require a CCW permit to begin with. The government’s job isnt ISSUING us our rights, its PROTECTING them.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:51pm@OZ
Totally agree with everything you said. This isn’t about shooting stoned, it’s about being able to get a “permit” (which, as you state, should not be the job of government) when on a prescribed medication which you do NOT have to take all the time.
Report Post »robin.kevin
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 2:14pmThis is interesting. On one of my other sites I visit they was asking if it was ok to carry while having A drink… meaning just one drink not getting drunk and it seem everyone agree that was find. Pot and carry should be fine as well as long as you aren’t crap face from it. Its kinda like having one drink then driving yea you had a drink you may be a little more relax but not drunk and still able to drive safely. You just really have to know your limits, sadly not too many people know their limits.
Report Post »DimmuBorgir
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 2:26pmseriously??
Doesn’t anyone remember Vietnam?? Guns and pot worked just fine there.
And I go shooting with my friend at his farm all the time and we smoke the whole time. People need to learn the diffence between real life and PSA life.
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 2:29pm@GHOST,
Report Post »Thanks for the comment, as I value your opinion. Your posts are one of the few that I specifically seek out when scrolling, as I can typically expect merit-based opinions, rather than emotionally founded reactions. (Don’t get me wrong, I love the vast majority of all you fellow BLAZE trolls!)
123gone
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 2:32pmI doubt very much, the denial of a CCW permit is focused on marijuana use. Follow the dots…
If they are allowed to deny the CCW permit rights of anyone who is using a drug while under a doctor’s care, then where do you draw the line on the type of drug prescribed?
Will they deny a CCW permit if you were to take a prescription allergy medication?
Report Post »nephewofdboone
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 2:43pmYou are an idiot. Can a person with a gun permit go into a liquor store and purchase alcohol, or to a pharmacy to pick up arthritis medication, without losing their permit, or their mind? Of course, they can. You are far more dangerous to society than a pot-smoker with a gun.
Report Post »libtardian-refugee
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 5:44pmHow many cops do you think are on prescription drugs???
Report Post »JustaThought
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 5:47pmCan medical marijuana mix with concealed guns?
Report Post »“Yes, it can”, replied Cynthia Willis. Willis then mistakenly confused the loaded end of her Walther P-22 with her nearby bong and blew her brains out the back of her head. But not to be deterred, she continued with the interview for another 20 minutes … gradually growing quite as the last bit of premo smoke drifted from the large hole in the back of her head. Fellow potheads standing next to her realized the gravity … and the opportunity … of the moment and with grass-stained fingers and hands fashioned a life-sized bong out of Willis inserting a lit bud into her mouth and drawing outrageously sick and copiously awesome amounts of drag from the Willis’ now cauterized gaping skull pit.
They all then left for their commune, dropping by a 7-11 on the way home for munchies. They then sat for hours watching reruns of the Toronto Slut Walk and watching the President’s 2011 State-of-the-Union speech backwards. One head was heard asking, “Dude, did he just say ‘Paul Rand is dead?’.
avenger
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 7:58pmyikes..the nuts are running the asylum…
Report Post »lavieenrose
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 10:55pmOZ, thank you for such a level-headed comment. Working in a pharmacy, I have seen so many of the same people drive up week after week trying to get refills on their anxiety meds, SSRIs, or narcotics. I have no issue with patients that do not abuse their medications, but there is always someone who does. However, does that mean we should take all of these off the market simply because they have the potential to be abused? Although I have no research to back up my opinion, my personal opinion is that pharmaceutical drugs are much more likely to lead to dependancy than marijuana. Then again, since marijuana isn’t legal in all states, I can’t imagine that there are credible studies supporting or rejecting that relationship….
Report Post »ObliviouslyAware
Posted on April 5, 2011 at 5:51amMEANWHILE IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS…
Report Post »Children everywhere are being falsely misdiagnosed with trumped up psychological conditions which ultimately break down to character traits, and will also ultimately lead to a permanent blemish on your children’s records preventing them from ever owning firearms… The drugs they give your kids to make shure said permanent mark is’nt a serious one creates an isatiable hunger for prescrition pills, which are IN FACT more addictive than any psychotropic substance out there, this ultimately leads to a vicodin addiction, where by he or she is legally able to own and operate a firearm, but is in all effects handicapped by all the sewage dumped upon their nervous system… Your priorities anti marijuana people are severly misplaced… Big Pharma SHOULD be your enemy now, but what actions do you take?
PalinPal
Posted on April 5, 2011 at 9:02pmShe has every right to legally own a gun & a MMJ card. No difference than any other drug such as other pain killers. You would have to outlaw the use of any rx drug. And it also goes against the HIPPA laws to her right to privacy.
Report Post »Last but not least she is EATING the MMJ. That is the perfered method for those that are using it medically. It is not about getting “high” but the pain releif. Is she better being dependent on oxycontin for cronic pain or MMJ.
She’s 54 years old. Has legally obtained a CCW by taking a class in handgun safety. She has also legally gone to a MD to get a MMJ for use concerning her disesase that is Nobodies business.
She out practicing at a Great shooting range to keep her up her skills. I think she has acted responsibly. Lock and Load Girl………………
mcfinch
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:08pmNot this… sounds like a tragedy waiting to happen.
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Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:08pmShe needs to work on her grip.
Report Post »svedka
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:14pmthat is exactly what I was thinking. And, on the other hand, I would rather stand beside a freedom loving self reliant sort a stoned straight shooter than one of those free loading ambien sucking zombie drones!
Report Post »robin.kevin
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 2:18pmYou know she could hold it a little tighter it looks but that’s actually a old school grip and its not all bad. I think Jay on top shot prove that when he sent Jermaine home using a grip very close to that.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 2:44pm……..
I don’t think the founding fathers envisioned stoners.
What’s next? Guns for crack heads?
stacybernardslay
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 2:45pmThe law says “NO”, concealed weapon papers ask you if you use marijuana – so does the firearm purchase sheet. If you perjure yourself with medical marijuana liscense it’ll come back if you have to use the weapon. Libs think the manchurian moonbat won’t prosecute them for marijuana, and they are right, but if they think big sis won’t prosecute a weapons charge they are in for a big surprise!
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 2:48pm……..
Report Post »Oh, and to the Oregon writer:
I know you know nothing about guns since you said she loaded a clip.
A semi-auto handgun has a “magazine”.
You’ve been getting your information from Hollywood action movies.
ozchambers
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 2:48pm@Robin: yeah, thats an old school grip, and is often copied from old cop shows and such, and even feels natural to a person who is a new shooter. Certainly the weapon can function just fine with that grip, but the Weaver stance has been considered a superior technique and I doubt you could find any instructor today that would advise a shooter to use the grip pictured.
Report Post »american1st
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 3:50pm@ ozchambers or find one that recommends wrapping your finger around the trigger up to the knuckle..
Report Post »Kalish
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 4:14pmYea she needs if for her arthritis, what a bunch of bull, there are plenty of prescription drugs that help arthritis that don’t get you high, why don’t they just admit they want to get high ? most people who want medical pot just want to get high, unless you have end stage cancer or something like that, most people do not need pot for their medical conditions, Oh and I don’t want anyone shooting at the range that I am at that is stoned or drunk or high on anything while most of the other people there are sober
Report Post »mrst
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 5:25pmI was looking at the grip too… I’ve been trying to figure out how to get my left hand comfy–I was thinking maybe that would work– arthritis. ;)
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 7:40pmI wonder if the California marijuana bill was designed to keep guns out of our hands.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:29pmOh, come on! She’s a Doper, not an “addict”. If she isn’t otherwise breaking the law or crazy, why would you keep her from being able to protect herself. From the sounds of things, based on who she hangs out with, she’d be shooting another doper. Let the courts decide.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 8:30pmPs, thats a seimi-auto, not an automatic.
Report Post »ObliviouslyAware
Posted on April 5, 2011 at 6:08am@Secret Squirrel
["I don’t think the founding fathers envisioned stoners."]
Yet George Washington‘s grew hemp and was thus aware of the plant’s properties…
I dont think the founding fathers envisioned making crimes out of men’s appetites…
Ruler4You
Posted on April 5, 2011 at 6:49amI agree. Her grip is a bit non standard. But she is right. We have to get past the notion that guns kill people. People kill people.
Report Post »Blazeanswerman
Posted on April 5, 2011 at 10:08amThat’s the grip I started with until my instructor told me that that was Hollywood. After seeing the Resident Evil movies seeing “Alice” shoot, I just laughed and now see how I was so clueless.
Report Post »My question is: If someone is smoking pot and a intruder breaks in, is it okay to shoot him?
How about alcohol? Crack? Heroin? How about having sex at the time? Is the person who is sober in a normal life day (his or her day depending on their life cycle) competent to conceal carry, open carry, a weapon? Has the person passed the requirements?
If I am a sharp shooter and I work for the FBI or CIA or McDonald’s, and I am having a party and had a few too many, is it okay for me to shoot to kill any intruder in my house on my property?
Damn Right it’s okay. This Sheriff should know more about the 2nd Amendment and the right to bear arms. This woman needs help only on her grip and not the intrusion of stupidity from the Sheriff.
Variable
Posted on April 5, 2011 at 3:08pm@OZ
Report Post »She is shooting a 22 not a 357….. just my $0.02
GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Posted on April 5, 2011 at 8:03pm@secret sq So my semi-auto M1 grand uses a strip magazine???
Do u load a .357 mag w/ a half moon magazine??
Have u even fired a gun?
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