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Cancer Survivor Herman Cain: ‘I Would Be Dead’ on Obamacare
- Posted on September 22, 2011 at 10:40pm by
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During Thursday night’s GOP debate, presidential hopeful Herman Cain, a survivor of stage IV colon cancer, was asked about his opposition to the national health care law dubbed “Obamacare.” Cain asserted that if decisions regarding his cancer treatment were left to the devices and time-frame of government bureaucrats, he would have been dead.
Cain, speaking from his own highly personal experience, truly seemed to resonate with the audience:
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DELTAJOHN
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:41am“Have you ever noticed how Republicans never even mention, let alone show any concern abject poverty, slums, the homeless or, as Christ said, “the poorest among us”? Not a word. A lot about the burden of the rich, but now a word about the poor. Ever wonder why?”
Poor is a choice…………..if you don’t believe so, come in my HS classroom and see who chooses to sleep on their desk during lecture, if they show up at all. There are no victims, there are no villains……………there is only choice.
Please don’t fill us with whining rhetoric, we as teachers EVERY day are doing our best to change that choice, but many won’t bite on our message. Keep supplying the poor with the means to survive WITHOUT work, they will continue to do so. Our present situation is due to “charity gone awry”. Wake up, and look at the real causes of “POVERTY”.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 6:56amGive a man a fish and feed him for a day, teach him how to fish and lose a Democratic voter.
Report Post »proud2bmom
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:33amThat is because we conservatives believe in charitable giving and caring for “the poorest among us” on a personal level. It is our responsibility as individuals, not through government regulation etc. I would prefer to give the same amount of money I pay in taxes to an organization that is actually meeting people’s needs in an efficient way. Even more so, we believe in actually getting involved and volunteering to help those less fortunate.
Report Post »Coralchristie
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 8:40amNo, I don’t wonder why because I know why. The poor have be “social problemed” into an almost permanent state of poverty. Some have been given so much without any effort on their part that they find it an acceptable lifestyle, others have tried to get out but the government policy makes it so hard to get there that it’s almost impossible. It isn‘t because the rich aren’t sharing or being taxed enough, it’s because the progressives have engineered programs that provide no incentive to do better and demonized those who have done really well. This administration has demonized those who have done reasonably well and screamed about “their fair share”. In most cases, the rich have paid copious amounts (35-45% of their salary) into the public coffers through federal taxation and 49-51% of the population pay …NOTHING. So far it seems that most public school teachers have been teaching our children socialism and communism instead of free enterprise,hard work and individual responsibility. They end up re-enforcing the poor choices of fractured and dysfunctional families. Some teachers, such as yourself, see what the real cause is for the state of the poor. Lastly, our houses of worship need to become the nurturers to the poor as they have in the past.
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:16amThe Tyrants are using the bureaucracy to destroy the Nation’s productivity. Exactly what are you Wannabe Peers going to distribute to the poor in a society that has lost the capability to produce wealth? See the results of your agenda: http://commonsense21c.com/images/MIDDLEAGES.jpg
Report Post »tobywil2
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:25amWealth is the goods and services required to sustain and enhance our lives.
Report Post »fancydancy
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:51amDelta John…said “Please don’t fill us with whining rhetoric, we as teachers EVERY day are doing our best to change that choice, but many won’t bite on our message. Keep supplying the poor with the means to survive WITHOUT work, they will continue to do so. Our present situation is due to “charity gone awry”. Wake up, and look at the real causes of “POVERTY”.
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Report Post »Newt Gingrich said last night during the debates that we need to require they attend job training for the 99 weeks of unemployment…that we need to train them during this time they are receiving money for doing nothing…that it was time to stop paying people for doing NOTHING. I agree. The Bible says, “IF you don’t work, you don’t eat.” God knew people would let others take care of them if there was no motivation to do otherwise…that‘s why socialism doesn’t work and our present leaders are trying to talk us into MORE of it. It doesn’t work.
angelcat
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:22amAs a retired teacher, I agree with you. When I worked my tail off trying to teach kids how to be literate enough to be able to read and fill out a job application, they yawned and told me they wouldn’t have to do that. They were going to be on welfare like their parents and wouldn’t need to work. That is when I changed districts and taught where kids wanted to learn and succeed in life – or at least most of them did at the schools where I taught. I still see those kids and their parents around town. They are doctors, lawyers, scientists, accountants. Their hard work paid off.
Report Post »GardenoftheGods
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 11:28amYou are SO right! Beck did a segment on the top 20 cities that are in deep poverty & decline…they have ALL been under Progressive Democrat rule for 70-100% of the time since 1965 (Civil Rights Act). These progressives don’t really care about helping people get out of poverty…it’s all about THEIR POWER…and if they’re in power, the people are in poverty. Look at how parents who have access to voucher programs work hard to get their kids educated. Look at how the kids love to learn, yet progs don’t like voucher programs. Why? They lose power & money…SAD for the kids
Report Post »Servant Of YHVH
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:19amI agree with Cain on that.
My only disagreement with him and everyone else is that they don’t call it what it is. It is OBAMA DEATHCARE! If they fully enact it; finances = dead, health = dead, sanity = dead, joy = dead, everything good with you = dead! In fact I would have to say that their motto for Obama Deathcare is a ditty that goes like this: dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, let me take care your health like I said and you will be dead, dead, dead, dead, dead!
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:03amI got breast cancer the first time around at age 41, through self-examination. I’ve been getting mammograms since I was 25 and had a high prolactin level (high risk). It started out every 2 years, then when I hit 30 or 35 it was every year. I had already had my mammogram for that year, and was almost due for another one. Obama wants women to wait until they’re 50 for their first mammogram. I, too would have been dead had Obama care been around in 2004. As it is, with the little that Obama care has been utilized, I’m losing doctors, having trouble making claims, all of which they said would not happen. And I have Tricare Prime, a military insurance that is supposed to be government insurance. I just went to the emergency room for what I thought was a broken foot (turned out to be a bad sprain). The government paid 12% of the hospital bill…..did you get that? 12% of what was billed. I pay $30 for the ER, so they got no where near what they should have, plus they have to treat and write off all the illegal aliens, and they probably get the same reimbursement for medicaid patients. Hospitals will need a bailout, which I believe is what he wants. That way, he can determine who gets treated and who doesn’t. At almost 48, I’d imagine I would be one of the “not” treated ones.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 7:15amI agree also .. as a survivor .. when I wasn’t getting the care I needed after they found the cancer … I seeked out a Doctor who took care of me .. would I have had the choice of going to him under Obamacare ??? I doubt it.
TEA!
Report Post »FugMan
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:16amMe too my friend. Herman Cain is too smart of a person to let go of. He is freaking smart.
Report Post »I might vote for him.
TriforcePlayer
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:02amReally hope that Cain will be somewhere in Romney or Perry’s Cabinet.
Report Post »bigdaddyt46
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 4:39ami’ve been a fan of Cain since he went toe to toe with Clinton, and made a fool out of him on national tv.
Cain/West 2012
Report Post »Any_One_But_Obama
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:49amIf you missed the debate, the whole thing is on:
Report Post »http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2011/sep/fox_google_gop_debate.html
Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:29amIf Herman Cain had not been rich as all get out and had to rely on his insurance company’s time table, he would be dead now.
Lucky for him he’s rich.
Report Post »HellAndBack
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 9:47amHe’s NOT rich by Luck… BLOOD, SWEAT, and TEARS made that man Rich. He deserves what he can get for it. I am a Self employed (fledgeling) Business Owner that currently is Below Poverty… and I will get there on My own. No Loans, Bailouts, or Govt. anything. I have diabeties, Liver Problems (dont drink never have), and Hearing Disabilities. I COULD live work free in the USA but I CHOSE to be productive and Self Reliant. I come from a Welfare Family and NONE of my siblings will take a dime from the Government or Our Neighbors… I did go through a dark time and have paid for my sins… But I can go Before the Almighty in Confidence now. This world owe everyone ONE thing and ONE thing only… Death. You can Bet we will all get whats due. Everything else is up to you.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:10pm@ spoof@paypal.com
Report Post »You think it’s bad now? Back in ‘04 I had to wait a whole month between diagnosis and surgery. It was December, near Christmas, and the majority of the staff at the air force base was on vacation. I got diagnosed December 11, 2004 and had surgery on January 11, 2005. And I have government insurance. The tumor had doubled in size. My mom, private insurance, had surgery 2 days after diagnosis of breast cancer in 1998. And she is by no means rich. You think wait times are bad now? Wait until everyone is on single payer insurance (meaning government) and half the doctors walk away.
Any_One_But_Obama
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:46amFrank Luntz showed that in the past week, a few in his focus group changed candidates to Cain. Most of them were leaving Rick Perry but Cain received a few of them. This is quite the change of pace and remember the election is not over but most likely, Rick Perry will be in second place come next weeks polls.
Frank Luntz Focus Group: http://tiny.cc/pa9st
Report Post »randerson503
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:24amI am tired of this debate format, only getting one minute sound bites of what the candidates represent. I would like to see it as more of a board meeting or round table discussion. Have a moderator introduce a specific topic and let the candidates have a conversation amongst themselves about it. They could learn from each other and we would learn more from them. Any in-fighting could be interrupted by the moderator to keep things civil. Or maybe we could just put Romney and Perry at the kiddy table. Herman got very little time to speak tonight. A new format would’ve benefitted him, as well as the other candidates.
Report Post »Deep_Thoughts
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:23amHERMAN CAIN 2012!!!!
Report Post »time for someone who has a spine and a brain and uses them.
Chuck Stein
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:48amRight now, I think I would vote for Herman Cain — certainly a “no regret” vote.
Report Post »Xlugon Pyro
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:09amPardon the lefty BS amongst some of our comments.
Herman Cain has been my candidate since the beginning. I’ve had shifting opinions of Rick Perry, Ron Paul, and Tim Pawlenty and I never liked Romney or Huntsman, but Herman Cain‘s been on the top of my list and I doubt that’ll change. I think he‘s growing on people and I hope that’s the case.
Report Post »Tractorboy
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:03amHe would make a great president. I LIke his style.
Report Post »FugMan
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:50amI was very impressed with Herman Cain tonight! He might just have my vote if he keeps this up!!!
Report Post »pheath
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:49amHerman Cain has lived the American Dream. He has survived the human nightmare that is cancer. He is beholden to no one. He is compromised by nothing. In other words, he owes nothing to anyone. He is, quite frankly, the perfect candidate at the perfect time to lead this country out of the canyons of hell that Obama will leave behind. He will cut the bureaucracies to the bone. He will put victims of the bureacracies in charge of their reform.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:48amI’m a Georgia boy and Herman has been my guy for some time. And, if you really want to drive the other side insane, get Col. West for VP.
Business and Military. And, ehem, black.
I’d pay a dollar to see that.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:48amHeads would explode, that’s for sure.
Report Post »Patriotme
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:25amSo far Cain has my vote.
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:28amMine too, Patriotme!
Report Post »100 Million Patriots Standing
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:21amGingrich is a CFR approved candidate…….
Report Post »justafollower
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:55pmCain 2012. If you’re not voting that way, you’re an F-ing moron. I’d love to put in more of a lovely package for all you Perry/Romney nuckleheads to digest. But, holy cow! It is so simple. It is so pointed. Just vote for the guy.
Some might say, “Oh, you‘re throwing your vote away because he’ll never win” and I’ll tell you. Throw away vote or not. It will be the best vote I’ve cast in the last 10 years! I’m serious now… Cain 2012 or bye bye you gross imposter that still calls yourself America.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:12amUh, no, he wouldn’t be dead. He could have and still can buy whatever insurance he wants under “Obamacare”. Under the plan, you can buy whatever insurance you want, as Herman Cain well knows. Honestly folks, I hate to use the word so popular here, but that is a blatant lie.
Now, if he were poor, like a substantial portion of the population, and unable to afford insurance, then yes, he’d die. Just like Americans do every day.
Have you ever noticed how Republicans never even mention, let alone show any concern abject poverty, slums, the homeless or, as Christ said, “the poorest among us”? Not a word. A lot about the burden of the rich, but now a word about the poor. Ever wonder why?
Report Post »DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator)
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:12amHe is a former Federal Reserve chairman and thus part of the reason we are in debt with a weak dollar. Wake up you idiotic sheeple. Your political understanding would have to triple for you to attain moron.
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:23amCain clearly rocked this debate. There’s no doubt. I would say Gingrich a close second…Perry?
Report Post »Phewww…
http://markamerica.com/2011/09/22/romeny-bickers-with-perry-stumbled-cain-gingrich-shined/
JustPeachy
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:25am@JZS, Herman never said he couldn’t buy insurance. He said the WAIT would have been longer under Obamacare and guess what?!? He’s RIGHT!
I know doctors who personally have said if Obamacare does not get repealed they will quit their practices. Why? Because they said essentially they’d be working for the government and they want no part of that.
So you figure it out. Fewer doctors = longer waiting time to get treatment. And not just doctors, but nurses, technicians, etc.! So EVERYTHING SLOWS DOWN.
When a person is dealing with Stage 4 cancer, time is of the essence!
So Cain is not only right, he did not lie. He likely would have died had Obamacare been in place.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:04am@JZS
You mean all those Republicans in all those Churches all over the planet giving 10% of their income and much more in time to the poor On Top Of the taxes we all pay? All those rich Republicans that establish charities and raise money for medical research, poverty relief and education?
Those Republicans?
Yeah, I hardly ever hear them talk about that.
Report Post »randerson503
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:13am@JZS: This is a Republican Presidential debate. The poor aren’t mentioned because no questions are asked about them. The guiding conservative principles regarding the poor are as follows: It is up to every citizen to take care of each other in times of need. We used to be a community driven people. We looked to our families, friends, neighbors, and churches to help if need was dire. It is not the responsibility of the federal government to carry individual citizens through life. It is their constitutional authority only to ensure liberties and freedoms are not hindered, and to enforce the rule of law.
It is also unfortunate that government has crept into the welfare game and enacted policies like the New Deal and LBJ’s Great Society. Turns out neither were so great. They led to the destruction of the black family unit and generational poverty. Government programs like these create a dependency on government that does not solve poverty, but rather keeps people wallowing in it. No government intervention will ever eliminate poverty. That is up to the individual. If he/she is not willing to make the psychological changes necessary to lift themselves out of poverty and into the productive classes, no amount of government funding will help. Social Justice is foolish.
Just because we believe that the government has no place in becoming our nanny does not mean that we lack compassion. We want the problem solved, not perpetuated by vote buying schemes.
Report Post »calijohn
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:01amcain probably didn’t even use his insurance, if he carries any.
Report Post »by the time he had to undergo cancer treatment he has amassed a fortune of tens of millions of dollars.
if you have the money, you go to head of the line.
insurance companies are run be bean counters – bureaucrats in civilian clothes.
scguitar
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:38am@DTOM_Jericho (Creator vindicator) When Mr. Cain was part of the fed board, there was sound monetary policy. The Kansas City Board today pushes back against a lot of what bernanke is doing. Cain did his job when working with the Fed and is not part of or the cause of the problem we face today
Report Post »jzs
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:25amDon’t you find it interesting that universal health care is supposed to make so many people die? Herman Cain, grandma, children etc. Death panels (although, odd, no death panels in the VA). Just about everybody dies. Now, I haven’t heard of a lot of people dying in Minnisota from their version of universal health care. But, the story goes, having insurance, administered by insurance companies (which is the case under Obamacare) is just going to kill everybody!
Sure. And not having insurance, and elminating funding for free or low cost health clinics helps everybody live. I think I understand the Republican position now.
Report Post »team1blazer
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:55pmAmen Tsunami, why are we letting the media moderate this debate? Bret did a good job, as did Meagan, but the media is still picking who stands in the middle as the “top tier” candidates. Why? We need to hear from Cain, Santorum, Gingrich, and yes Ron Paul….I know his ideas are a little out there, but if you listen and evaluate, most of it makes sense…So far, I can’t argue with ANYTHING that Herman Cain has said or done. At this point, he’s got my vote.
Report Post »OnlyaDreamer
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:40pmI see more people slowly being introduced to Herman Cain. Yet, they’re not just warming up to him, people are becoming endeared to him. When people meet and hear Herman Cain, the don’t see a great politician, they see a trustworthy honest man.
I see Herman Cain as a true reflection of the “American Dream”, the idea of “What Can Be…”
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:27amHe’s actually a LEADER, rather than just another politician!
How refreshing!!!
Report Post »TriforcePlayer
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 5:03amAgreed
Report Post »CaliforniaConservative
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:35pmMr. Cain is smart and articulate. Why is the media dismissing him as a serious candidate? He has my vote. I love that he’s NOT a lifelong polititian. He is a businessman who owes no political favors.
Report Post »justafollower
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:57pmabsolutely. I’m with u, CaConservative! We may be in the minority, but we’ll be the ones to make the right vote for the right candidate!
Report Post »100 Million Patriots Standing
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:19am“Why is the media dismissing him as a serious candidate?”
because he is not CFR approved. The Council on Foreign Relations needs their own RINO’s in office to advance their NWO agenda and keep their people embedded in the administration. NEWT, PERRY, MITT. are their people……
scratch them…..
and don’t assume for a moment that Cain will screw us like Obama did.
all the talking heads are dismissing him – O’reilly, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, all of them. and The MSN does hardly acknowledge his existence,
at least think it through…..
we don’t want anyone THEY can or do control…
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 12:53am100 Million Patriots Standing
Report Post »Goodness, I wish I didn’t believe you are right. Have spent a lot of time since January 2009 looking at what history is instead of what I thought it was! Am afraid for a long, long time the choices we are left with after the primarys are only “approved” candidates….from both sides, so whatever they tell you during the campaign is not what will happen after the election.
honor007
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 1:13amHermain Cain has my vote, been a follower for awhile. The very first time I seen him speak, I thought, damn, he is like a black John Wayne. And I mean that with the best of intentions ;-)
he means what he says and says what he means! I LOVE the fact he is not a politician and such a smart, savy business sense!
Report Post »JOMODOC
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:28pmi agree, cancer would have most likely metastasized by the time approval for treatment made.
Report Post »calijohn
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 2:04amdid he wait for his insurance company to make a decision or just use his own fortune for the procedures?
Report Post »you got enough money, you go to the head of the line and don’t have to wait for anyone to make a decision for you.
Sumrknght
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:15pmI wouldn’t have my wife (a cervical cancer survivor) if we’d had Obamacare when she was diagnosed. I would have lost her – and my son (she was pregnant at the time).
I like Herman Cain… Romney is a RINO – his health care plan is every bit as bad as Obamacare. Perry… well, I like him too… but need some more time.
Report Post »Hythloday
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:13pmMr. Cain is an awesome candidate, and with the acception of disaster, he’ll have my vote. But again, both donkey and elephant media completely ignore him altogether. I think there’s a specific strategy to attack each candidate, and being mum on Cain is the strategy for him. In addition, I believe he’s the only candidate that actually attended Restoring Courage – what does that say?
Report Post »kissmybasset
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 10:49pmMr. Cain SHOULD be a front-runner, but Perry and Romney’s constant barbs take the focus off of the issues.
Report Post »raspberrytea
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 10:43pmI like Mr. Cain. He answers questions right on point. He doesn’t
Report Post »go on and on about something we don’t
want to hear.
Grandmadar
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:37pmYes, and his answers usually ended about the time of the ding. So many went on and on and didn’t answer the questions. Some were yes and no, like Romney not saying yes or no as to whether he believed Obama is a socialist. Actually, he isn’t he is a Fascist.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:45pmAnd just to elaborate a little more, he doesn’t answer each question with the same talking point! Now, I realized that many of this issues are closely tied together, and one little tug could unravel it all. But, the candidates have to quit interjecting how they will get rid of ObamaCare when discussing the creation of jobs, the economy, taxes and other issues. They need to be more specific
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