Carney Has Testy Exchange With Reporter: ‘You Can Ask’ But I’m Not Giving More Details
- Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:01pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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It‘s unclear who the reporter is that drew the ire of Press Secretary Jay Carney during today’s White House press briefing, but the fact is she did.
The female reporter seemed confused as to why the administration, after spending two days giving details about the OBL mission and clarifying, all the sudden decided to become evasive and tight-lipped. And when she kept pressing Carney on that point, he eventually raised his voice slightly and told her that while she can keep asking questions of clarification, he won’t be answering:
To be fair, the reporter was just as testy and frustrated as Carney. But if you watched the whole press conference, you got the feeling that Carny entered the room on the defensive and ready to do battle. His demeanor during the whole thing was smug, cocky, and condescending. At one point, he even bent over the podium, placed his elbows on the top, and carried himself like a lecturing professor.
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Comments (123)
high school drop out
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:41pmOh! Just one more thing, Prov1 asked“ when will this racism end” Probably not ever But, the false accusations will end in 2012…When we dump Obama By the way I predicted the the incessant use of “the race card long before the election!
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UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:40pmCarney’s testiness indicates to me an Administration suffering constant infighting. Look at all the massive egos surrounding Obow. Most of those people are long-time Beltway fixtures, seeking to manipulate the wishy-washy amateurish man-child for personal power and future prestige. I bet every one of them expects to be pulling strings in Washington long after Obow is gone from office.
If he loses on 2012, they’ll still be around. If he wins, watch how many resign their posts and move on to other things. Obow is just a stepping stone to them, and little more. If he had any real control over his people, the conflicting story-telling would have stopped yesterday, “pending the final after-action report” or some such disclaimer.
While we need to watch the other hand, Obow needs to watch his own back. His own people sure aren’t covering it.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:39pm” The amount of information has been extrordinary.” Yep and and often conlflicting.
Report Post »olddog
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:37pmI wonder if any of these people will EVER realize that they work for US.
Report Post »raderby
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:37pmI suggest everyone leave the Repube party to the dustbin of racism and starving children and killing off grandma – - – and definitely vote for BHO come 2012. Get this Armageddon thing over already… getting bored of this back and forth.
Report Post »high school drop out
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:33pmEmartin You sound like a dem plant..We are NOT the racists!!!!99.9% percent of repubs are good ,fair and decent folks If you want to vote socialist go ahead with my blessing BUT DO NOT CALL ME A RACIST AGAIN!!!!!! Besides, there are alot of commie plants pretending to be conservatives!!!! Maybe you shold keep that in mind before you call names!
notnot the racists
Report Post »quizibo
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:32pmI dont see anything wrong here. Explain why this is so bad.
Report Post »He patiently explained more than once to the reporter that was asking the same question over and over again.
Tomfang
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:27pmIt figures that Oh,Bummer would choose a little 12 year old “snot, with an attitude” to represent him to the American people. This is his way of telling us what he thinks of us.
Report Post »HerMajestysThunder
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:23pm“The most transparent adminstration in history” ?
Report Post »IAMNOTKNOWING
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:37pmYou can’t blame him… Nancy never drained the swamp.
Therefore… even with his “best intentions,” he will be unable to come through on that particular promise. -water’s still too murky. Sorry.
Do you smell that? Yeah, .. that’s sarcasm. ;p
Report Post »Devil Dog 7175
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 7:17pmGreat point…
Report Post »elosogrande
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:20pmThis little guy lays in bed at night, dreaming that one day he’ll grow up and be able exhibit strength the same way Dana Perino did when she was at the podium.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:41pmNow that would make a great celebrity death match.
Report Post »4wheels
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:18pmThey are evasive and tight-lipped because of Rush Limbaugh’s comments yesterday. Basically Rush pointed out that Obama is now successful because he has followed all of George Bush’s actions. (Keeping gitmo open, using a strong military, practice the operation before it’s executed, etc..) Obama wanted to close gitmo, stop water boarding, and kill the military. Not including most recently pay for welfare instead of the military during the potential shutdown. If President Obama listened to Senator Obama, OBL would still be alive.
Report Post »Texas Grasshopper
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:15pmCheck out Obamas new Exec. Order dated March 30 , 2011
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/ppd/ppd-8.pdf
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:14pmGee Robin, maybe the Batman Obama is a bad guy after all? I am beyond upset with this administration, in fact I‘m contemplating doing something that I’ve never done before. I‘m thinking about binding Obama’s sins to himself, so that when he gets to the judgement he won’t be staying in heaven. I know he’s doing a good job at denying his own salvation by treating America and the entire world with his smug, condescending, arrogant demeanor, not to mention the unrighteous murder of thousands, but since I have no other viable choices to express my utter disdain for him, I’m seriously considering sealing him in his sin.
Report Post »EWRoss
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:13pmThe Obama administration appears to be in the process of undercutting all the benefit that will accrue to it as the result of the Bin Laden take-down by screwing up the back brief. Perhaps when Gen Petraeus takes the reins at CIA he can teach them how to do it right.
http://ewross.com/general_petraeus_to_cia.htm
Report Post »geonj
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:11pmdeception and obfuscation are the default position of this administration. carney looks like a fool.
Report Post »libh8er
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:11pmI am beginning to feel kind of sorry for this guy. Barry and his pals threw him to the wolves. I can tell that he has been taking “look down your nose” lessons from Barry.
Wait….. What I said in the beginning…. I take it back.
Report Post »jungle J
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:11pmHere is a thing that can barely speak…and he is obamas wordsmith…telling?
Report Post »Barry@Occidental1980
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:11pmCarney will quit soon. Like Soetoro he is slowly crumbling.
Report Post »eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:10pmCarney-Boy isn’t going to answer your questions – so why bother?
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:13pmI like your name, and I love the Piggly Wiggly logo!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:08pmRead: “We‘re not giving out any more information because we don’t want to clarify any more information or clean up any more lies.”
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:07pmHey, jerk…. you work for us. Did someone forget to tell you that?
Report Post »emartin35
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:05pmIt’s funny how many white caucasian cowards there are on this website. Scared to upload a real pic of themselves or give their name. All so they can post juvenile, immature comments which exposes not their true political beliefs but their political beliefs which are masquerading for deep male insecurities and inferiority complexes. Romantic, social, personal and professional frustrations manifest as political anger.
Before today I was a locked in vote for the Republican Party in 2012.
Today, after reading all the racist comments posted on the Michelle Obama dance video story I am
undecided.
I have nothing in common with racists like this. I will not vote with racists even if it means voting with liberals who I dislike almost equally. But I dislike racists more.
If the racism on the website continues, I will vote for Obama in 2012.
Republicans: Check yourselves before you Wreck yourselves. Wake up. The internet might be anonymous but people with honesty and integrity who REALLY care about this country are watching you.
Independents will not vote on the side of racists. Purge these racists from the Republican Party or I’m gone.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:12pmWe do not care whom you vote for. That’s the reason we have the “secret ballot” and voting booths.
I haven’t heard anything racist. I just cannot trust, respect, or like a LIAR. Obama is a compulsive liar. So was my first husband. Nothing racist here — trust me.
And, a lot of us know who we are and are in daily contact with each other.
Report Post »ILIKEBEER
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:14pmyou cant be serious, are saying only conservatives are racist? please come out from under your rock.
Report Post »prov1
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:14pmwhen does this racism word go away ? A good person is a good person Ansi-soit-il (Amen)…be it, live it and the word is gone.
Report Post »don4logo
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:15pmWell, EMARTIN35, if you can’t cast a vote with racists, you might as well just give up and not vote at all. Your silly little protest is far more juvenile than most of the antics of others here that you’ve complained about. Racism is a fact of human existence. Black, whites, liberals, conservatives, men, women, you get the picture. There’s the KKK and the Black Panthers. Any way you slice it, racism exists. Just simply sit there, shut up, decide to NOT be a racist, and vote your conscience. Oh, and grow up while you’re at it.
Report Post »4q2obama
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:15pmBye!
Report Post »Make My Day
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:16pmAs I am sure you voted for BO before.
Report Post »libh8er
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:17pmI would say… If you are willing to jump sides that easily…… bye bye…!
Report Post »dirtypolitics
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:17pmAre you sure they are Republicans/Conservatives? Are you sure they are not Liberals/Democrats posing as Repubs/Conservatives? A lot of dirty tricks come from the Progressives/Liberals you know. Maybe you should investigate first.
Otherwise, you have made up your mind a long time ago that you will be voting for Obama or maybe you are really a Progressive/Liberal posing an an Independent?
There are racist both in the Conservatives and Liberals. Don’t delude yourself. If you don’t know that, welcome to Earth. But please don’t make any generalizations. Have you heard of Race Baiting? Have you heard of Race Card..yes the one used to beat Hillary Clinton and John McCain. Yes, the one that the Journolists used to keep Americans from questioning Obama’s past. Have you seen this video on how people use race to get votes?
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1634819/michelle_obama_why_do_you_hate_white_people/
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:18pm“…but people with honesty and integrity who REALLY care about this country are watching you.”
The people with honesty and integrity who REALLY care about this country POST HERE ON THE BLAZE! Now, if you have a problem with conservatives, scurry on over to a Communist website.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:19pm.”let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” It sounds like you may never find a party to belong to, but I encourage you to vote, for the best candidate. If you think that your vote one way or the other will not be counted next to racists, sexists, communists, socialist’s , radicals, anarchists, or people that don’t have predjuices of one thing or another, you probably need your mess checked.
Report Post »Mr. Nice Guy
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:23pmWell Mr. Martin, thanks for your input. Are there racists here? Yes, because there are people here. Racism is a human problem; not a political problem, not a conservative problem, and not a liberal problem. I would like to invite you spend some time in the fora at some web sites that have a more liberal slant. There I am sure you will find people who are the most pure of heart.
Have a nice day.
Report Post »dirtypolitics
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:26pmAnd Martin, election year is coming. Dirty tricks from both parties may come your way.
In making your decision, think about the kind of ideals that was nurtured to you by your parents and your Religion. Then observe and keep on reading. Do your research. Check out Conservative websites as well as Progressive/Liberal sites and shows. Compare them.
Choose the candidate that best represent the teachings of your parents and the religion that was nurtured to you.
The future of this country depends on young people like you. Before making a decision, pray to God. With his help you will gain Wisdom to make a sound decision.
Good luck friend!
Report Post »kzuber
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:28pmYikes man, the racists are the dems … and your already half lost if you think there were racist comments. It really irritates me when people can cover those who are evil and defend them based on racism. You are already a liberal .. just move along
Report Post »CatB
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:33pmIf you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you’re not a racist,
you‘ll have to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you’re not an idiot.
I believe I know where you fall EMARTIN
Report Post »Buck Bagaw
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:33pmMarty, Marty, Marty,“white caucasian cowards”??. Just ‘cowards’ would have made your point without Your racism showing through. Appears that you voted stupidly before so why wouldn’t we expect you to do it again. And please, please don’t go, it’s folks like you that contribute to this target rich environment. Jerk(whispered)
Report Post »dirtypolitics
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:34pmEmartin35, what do you think of this?
http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/03/white-house-asked-california-paper-to-take-out-unflattering-remark-about-first-lady/
Report Post »Jaycen
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:52pmWhy are you posting a complaint about another blog article on THIS article?
How are any of the comments here racist? How in the world can you know how people’s frustrations over their lives translate to political frustration? I’m quite happy in my life, my biggest frustration IS political frustration.
And you’d vote based on who else votes? You don’t vote based on the candidate? That’s some screwy logic. Hey, maybe you should just abstain from the process altogether. That might be a much safer road for someone like you to take – someone incapable of forming his own opinion, someone who’s opinion is based on the groupthink of others.
Wow – just freaking WOW.
Report Post »reino71
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:57pmFirst of all, I want everyone in Blazeland to give emartin35 a round of applause for putting his picture and presumably his name on his posts. It is truly the mark of a strong, courageous man. I particularly admire his strength and courage of conviction. He is so courageous in fact that he is willing to totally change his mind about voting for Republicans in 2012, because he said there were a few people making racist comments on this board. We all know that that means all Republicans are racist pigs. Good call emartin. Your convictions most certainly run deep. Finally, I want to whole-heartedly thank emartin for resurrecting one of my favorite sayings from back in the day, “You better check yourselves before you reck yourselves.” That sir takes courage. Another round of applause everyone for emartin.
Report Post »Sergei
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:58pmIsn’t “white” and “caucasion” redundant? And “check myself” for what – ticks? I don’t get it…
Report Post »commonsenseguy
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:58pm@jacen, totally agree, what an idiot as you said just freakin wow!!!!!
Report Post »Redhandpaddy
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 5:45pmVote democrat to show that you are not racist if you so desire but at the same time you will prove that you are an anti American moron.
Report Post »MyAgendaIsTruth
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:05pmCarney must have said “I don’t know” 20 times. What does he know? And if he doesn’t know why is he there speaking for the POTUS?
Report Post »BIGJAYINPA
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:31pmBecause POTUS doesn’t know either. It’s a good pairing kinda like Dumb and Odumber.
Report Post »PER100
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 5:13pmbecause the POTUS does not know either. you may be expecting too much from the liberal side of of the isle.
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:04pmI can’t decide if this goofball is more like a “Carney Barker” or Art Carney.
Report Post »brickmoon
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:52pm“This way to the eeeegressss.”
Report Post »verityquest
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 5:30pmGots to love that On The Job training…. OR NOT. GEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZ…….
Report Post »Entropy
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 6:11pmCan there be a more disgusting hack liar than this Carney guy? I mean, just look at the man.
Report Post »true2myword
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:03pmHe must be sexist
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:07pmI want Gibbs back…he was more stupid….LOL
Report Post »HDYLMN
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:09pmAsk him who ordered the mission? Was it Panetta? Hillary?
Report Post »jmmjr49er
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:21pmRemember Jay Carney worked at Time magazine and is married to Clair Shipman of ABC.
Nice job Jay. All friends in the room with Jay.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:22pmHe talks Liberish…………..
Report Post »CatB
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:31pmLiberish ???? ROFL!
Report Post »John 1776
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:32pmLet me get this straight, the “Press Secretary” has indicated he will not answer questions from the press? So, what purpose does he serve? Fire him!
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:36pmThe fact is Americans want answers and the White House is doing their darndest to confuse and distort the facts even by simply rewriting the story every few minutes and hours as their ‘truth’ of the matter needs to be changed.
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:50pmWhat is with BHO’s smarmy condescending Press Secretaries? He should just admit that the administration he is working for is a complete joke. A joke that garners little laughter.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 4:52pmCan’t give details about a fabricated mission…
This has reached an entirely new level of incredibility.
Report Post »Blackhawk1
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 5:14pmI bet Carney wants his old job back of providing cover/excuses for only gaff a day Biden. Now he has to try and cover up for the idiot POTUS.
Report Post »verityquest
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 5:26pmTo borrow a phrase from dogsledding: Pace of the leader sets the pace of the pack.
Or, the TV series Kung Fu – said Gibby to Carney: “When you can snatch the pebble from my hand….”
That’s OK, though. Keep talking down to the electorate (it‘s not like we haven’t seen this before) – “Elections have consequences.”
It’s HOPE. I’s CHANGE.
It’s a PT Barnum cluster_____ B.S. End of sentence.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 5:27pmFabricated mission? Because of your hatred for Obama, you readily disrespect the soldiers who went in and risked their lives to get Osama. You must be some lefty piece of trash. Drink some more Loose Change kool-aid, comrade.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 5:32pmThis entire charade is disrespectful to the troops, and disrespectful to the families of those who died in 9-11.
The troops don’t deserve some spectacular level of deference for their service.
They offer a service for pay, just like anyone else.
9-11 truth isn’t an exclusively leftist notion, I’m not a leftist- I’m a Conservative Libertarian, and Loose Change was more interesting and answered more questions than this fiasco.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 5:37pmIt doesn’t take much looking into “loose Change” to debunk it. talk about drinking the kool-aid. try watching “screw loose change” on youtube.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 6:00pmNo, ty.
I don’t watch government produced disinformationist propaganda.
That’s all for you.
Report Post »nanchuan
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 6:03pm@sinista
the troops do deserve a special level of deference. they don’t just offer a service for pay. much more than that they lay their lives on the line (as do firefighters and police). they do it for crummy pay because of what they believe.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 6:06pmDude, if you believe that 9-11 was an inside job in spite of the mountain of evidence supporting the official story and the pure speculation that’s presented as evidence from the truthers, then you are beyond hope.
Report Post »hologram5
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 6:22pmHe‘s a punk just like his boss and I’d love to catch either one in a dark alley and show them what real honor and integrity is.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 6:31pmYou can go licking their boots if you want to and drinking the official kool-aid, I’m not about to.
I’m greater than any soldier, I pay them, they work for me. When I stop paying them, they won’t go anymore, guaranteed, unless our nation is actually under threat. That’s expected of ANY civilian, we’re ALL soldiers when it comes to protecting this nation. It’s my responsibility as much as theirs.
Same with the police, firefighters, and all the rest of PUBLICLY PAID servicemen.
Nobody tortures them into accepting the pay they receive for the danger they put themselves in. They don’t volunteer, they’re paid for a service.
Nobody has to pay me anything to protect my nation. If there is a real threat, not some government fabricated one, then yea, I’m all up in that.
I don’t agree with the actions they perform in “service” of our nation, I don’t support neverending wars based on false pretense with no clearly defined enemy.
My objection to it doesn’t make me antiamerican or any of the garbage people like you like to spew.
“Bible Quotin‘ Science Fearin’ Conservative American”
Dude, if you believe that 9-11 wasn’t an inside job in spite of the mountain of evidence presented to the contrary, and the purely debunked garbage that’s presented as evidence from multiple credible sources, such as General Hamid Gul who worked directly with Bin Ladin when Bin Ladin was working for the US as CIA Asset “Tim Osman”, or Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, the U.S. government insider who said earlier this week that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job, then you are beyond hope.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 7:21pmEvery citizen is a soldier.
Except, we’ll do it for free, or freedom.
Report Post »restorehope
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 9:15pmThe only difference between Carney and his predecessor is that Carney is a little smarter. Both men are condescending, egotistical, and deliberately evasive. After the White House, he will be sure to get hired by the mainstream media. He would fit right in with the junkyard dogs at msnbc or cnn.
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on May 4, 2011 at 10:40pmI’ve read and watched probably hundreds of hours of 9-11 conspiracy crap and nothing holds up to scrutiny. No controlled demo experts or structural engineers validate any of the theories. All you have, ALL YOU HAVE is speculation that you consider fact and an inherent distrust in the magically powered big brother government capable of anything you’ve seen in the movies and more. There’s not a SHRED of proof of a 9-11 conspiracy. Only speculation. Dream on, loser.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 8:49amI think you’re just oppositionally defiant. You can’t address or even acknowledge that Top Officials who worked directly with Bin Ladin have revealed for years that he has been dead. You’re still dwelling on the laws of physics, already well established, and already debunked by professionals. NOBODY believes that that building collapsed into it’s own footprint from jet fuel melting steel in an uncontrolled burn. We’ll just have to concede that and disagree. Physics reality doesn’t change to fit your narrative. A bunker buster bomb couldn’t drop that building. Everyone paying attention saw Building 7 get demolished. Silverstein is on video stating they demolished the thing. What YOU DON’T HAVE is people who worked directly with Bin Ladin stating that “Yea, he is alive and hiding in a Pakistani compound.” Everyone with any credibility on Bin Ladin stated that he has BEEN DEAD FOR YEARS. Namely Gen. Hamid Gul, who WORKED WITH HIM, and Dr. Steve Pieczenik, who CANNOT BE DEBUNKED or CALLED A CONSPIRACY THEORIST because he served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.
Where’s YOUR experts… do they even exist…nope…
Report Post »tiredoftaxes
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 8:51amI didn’t see the whole press conference…but it seems reasonable that they all need to shut their big mouths about what our military does to fight terrorism. Is he saying that the president, in his arrogant diatribe about how “he” killed Osama, has given T.M.I.? The terrorists are just sitting in their, uh, million dollar compounds taking notes…”let’s see, new helicopters in U.S., secret Navy Seal team, people we need to take out sit in one room together when they come to kill us….interesting….”
Report Post »Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 11:44amthe twin towers collapse is the single most scrutinized structural failure in human history. no one has produced any proof of a conspiracy. but I‘m sure you’ll never let it go. the only “proof” you‘ll accept is proof that you’re right. every thing else must be lies. you’re just like a birther, jfk nut or republican.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on May 5, 2011 at 1:13pmWell, they censored my response, not sure why, but, whatever.
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