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Carolina Panthers’ Jeremy Shockey Slams Houston Texans Players for Poor National Anthem Etiquette

Jeremy Shockey Slams Houston Texans Players For Poor National Anthem Etiquette

Carolina Panthers tight end Jeremy Shockey (80) reaches to put the ball across the goal line and score despite the efforts of Houston Texans cornerback Jason Allen in the second quarter of an NFL football game on Sunday, Dec. 18, 2011, in Houston. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)

HOUSTON (The Blaze/AP) — Carolina Panthers tight end Jeremy Shockey criticized members of the Houston Texans for not putting their hands over their hearts during the national anthem, calling their inaction “kind of offensive.”

Shockey says he saw “about 10 players” who didn’t do the traditional gesture when the anthem is played, and he told some of them how he felt during Carolina’s 28-13 victory.

“I was pretty upset in the way they weren’t showing respect to America during the national anthem,” Shockey said. “This is America and you should at least give respect to America.”

Shockey‘s rant came in response to a reporter’s question about the Texans’ defense.

Jeremy Shockey Slams Houston Texans Players For Poor National Anthem Etiquette

“This is America and this is just a game and they should not only be very proud of this country, but very gifted to be living here,” Shockey said. “Maybe they just forgot to do it or something, but I don’t see how you could forget to do that.”

At least one of the Texans shot back following Shockey’s comments.

“If he’s so patriotic, why was he looking at our bench instead of the flag?” said linebacker DeMeco Ryans. “Where did he come up with the number 10? Was he counting? Why was he paying attention to us during the national anthem?”

Shockey sports a red, white and blue tattoo on his right biceps portraying a bald eagle draped in an American flag. He caught a 9-yard touchdown pass from Cam Newton in Sunday’s game, then pointed at linebacker DeMeco Ryans and appeared to yell at him and cornerback Jason Allen.

Comments (288)

  • chumpThreads
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:59am

    Public professions of patriotism are so 19th century. Jingoistic nationalism is an embarrassment, not a virtue.

    I think the Baha’is have it right: “The earth is one country and mankind its citizens.”

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    • willbedone
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:06am

      HorseFeathers

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    • JoeBtfsplk
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:07am

      If you live, work, and play in America show some respect. Would it kill you to place your hand over your heart for the duration?

      Good.

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    • Les78015
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:08am

      Ya, Chump is a fitting handle for you.

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    • nilo
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:17am

      You must be a Democrat.

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    • nilo
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:18am

      You must be a Democrat

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:30am

      Hey Chump

      I don’t like people that live in America, that disrespect this Country or whose nescience of our sovereignty is promulgated publicly.
      These morons are bereft of any reasoning or logic, when they blame the Country and it’s Citizens for the nefarious deeds of the corrupt and incompetent “politicians”.
      If you like a One world Government and think we are all “One Big World Family”, and that we should have no sovereignty, I admonish you to pack up your bags and leave America before it’s too late for you. The Global Agenda is about to fail.
      A Globalist is NOT an American !!!!
      We are ready to Print AMERICAN currency, based on a gold and silver standard, which will end the Federal Reserve PRIVATE Bank, in America.
      And most importantly, we are going to break the “contract” with the UN, who holds the deed to our government, land and PEOPLE.
      We will defy a international UCC Lein on the “United States Government” and tell the UN to get off our Shores. If the international courts and UN and NATO want to go to war over a Broken Contract, so be it. LIVE FREE or DIE.
      Where did our Government ever get the Authority to pledge America, it‘s land and it’s CITIZENS to a Private Bank, for the Bankruptcy of 1933 ?????

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    • Miami
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:32am

      To any moron that was graced with the opportunity to be born in the United States of America and does not appreciate it. Should be welcomed to leave it and make life elsewhere. Especially those athletes making much more than generous salaries. What would they be earning if not for the
      US of A…?

      Just ask any Cuban ball player…

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    • lukerw
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:34am

      Obama Tory!

      Have you seen the Seal on the Tail of AirForce1 — Gone is the American Flag — Now there is a Big O.. and inside a New Sun… rising… over a Fallen American Flag! Must be the Dictator’s new Great Seal!

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:38am

      ” I think the Baha’is have it right: “The earth is one country and mankind its citizens.” ”

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      I don‘t know who Baha’is is, nor do I care to know.
      I could care less what you or this ‘Baha’is’ think.
      I suggest you go live with this person or entity.
      Also go tell Chinese, Russian and Islamic Authorities about your distorted ideologies. lol.
      You are living in a serious dream world, if you ever think there will be “World Peace” and that ALL cultures can live in harmony.

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:40am

      @PROBIEMSOLVER, right on. The days of our derelict President and his anti-God, anti-American, anti-Constitution cronies that he has surrounded himself with are about to come to an abrupt end.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:42am

      CHUMP, please feel free to move where there is no patriotism, only dictator worship. In fact, if you were to take a poll, many people on this site would be happy to contribute to your move, we are very giving people and only want you to be happy. It always seems there are alot of complainers, but not many takers.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:43am

      Thought I was kidding about the federal reserve (UN, IMF, World Bank) owning you ?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlCs7u1ihws

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    • Volsense
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:46am

      I would expect nothing less from someone who would label themselves as “chumpthreads”. Fits you perfectly.

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    • Talmid of Yeshua
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:50am

      And you are so 21st Century, as in an idiot.

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    • hvy_gunner_0331
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:59am

      Tell it to the Marines…

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    • LookTowardsTheLight
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:01am

      @chumpThreads

      Excuse me, bum? You really want to post such nonsense on this website?

      Since you have no respect for the country in which you leave, why don’t you use one of the freedoms you have and GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY.

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    • felix
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:03am

      the best part of you went down yo mommas leg !

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    • ThankYouFounders
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:03am

      Ah, yes. Spoken by a true Communist.

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:05am

      Don’t be upset at chumps comments he just lost his supreme leader Kim Jong il ,he has a right to be upset , No ?..

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:10am

      HUH? We are a tribal society. All you have to do is read the paper every day to figure that out.

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    • pbhiller
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:13am

      This country is going downhill fast and one reason is the lack of respect.. Lack of respect to elders, mother and father, and the Nation. The greatest country in the world is going through a rough spot but we as Americans can start getting that swagger back. Put your freakin hands over your heart when hearing the national anthem

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    • turkey13
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:14am

      He can’t help it! Shockley is from Oklahoma and he has been hanging out with Tom Colburn to much. Also, all 77 counties in Oklahoma voted against obama. I think they saw thru the (Hope and Change.” I wish I could say I saw thru the lie and didn’t vote for obama. My 3 sons and their wives convinced myself and wife that we should vote for this young rather than old foggie. We have all been affected and have seen the light and will throw out PC next November.

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    • PPMStudios
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:20am

      Hey Chump,

      Look at the thread you got going with your Anti-American ignorant rhetoric!!! Amazing what your few words of stupidity were able to do…..

      Report Post » PPMStudios  
    • Patriot12
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:22am

      @ Chumpthreads

      You have earned the right to be shot.

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    • gmoneytx
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:38am

      LUKERW

      I can’t find the “new” tail graphic anywhere online for Air Force One…where did you get this info from…

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    • AOL_REFUGEE
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:40am

      “Why was he paying attention to us during the national anthem?”

      Because you and your cohorts are @nuses, DeMeco.

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    • zeezil
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:46am

      Since you are such a hippy-dippy love child of the Universe…do mankind a favor…rocket off to Uranus so you won’t be reproducing here.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:49am

      @Carbonyes

      Just realize that we have had only progressive globalists in the oval office ( That includes Democrats and Republicans. They all answer to the Same bosses.) since Woodrow Wilson, with the exception being JFK.
      JFK, I believe was bumped for signing executive order 11110. Granting authority BACK to the U.S. Treasury to print AMERICAN money based on Silver.
      This would have destroyed the global, federal reserve note.
      They would also eventually lose the grip on America if that happened.
      The Bushes are huge Global elite progressives
      Obama and Geogre W.Bush are Cousins:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ldZS9PL9KE

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Take Bill NDAA. S.1867 as a recent, undeniable peice of evidence that 93% of D.C. “politicians”
      are Corrupt and have a nefarious, clandestine agenda.
      This bill gives the president and the administration the authority to detain “belligerent’ Americans indefinately, with no trial.
      Detainees can also be tortured and in some cases executed.

      This was passed on the Senate floor with 93 yeas and 7 nays.

      There are only 3 Republicans, 3 Democrats and 1 Independent that should remain in the Senate.

      (R) Paul Rand – Kentucky
      (R) Thomas Coburn – Oklahoma
      (R) Mike Lee – Utah

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      (D) Jeff Markley – Oregon
      (D) Ron Wyden – Oregon
      (D) Thomas Harkin – Iowa

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      ( I ) Bernard Sanders – Vermont

      44 “Republicans” voted on this COMPLETELY UNCONSTI

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    • Treaty
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:52am

      I used to not like Shockey mostly because of his part in kicking my teams butt LOL. But I have a new found respect for the guy. Fan for life now!

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    • ed0315
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:59am

      Wow, I wonder how many ways I can come up with calling you a d i c k head?

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:00am

      *Rand Paul

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    • Depressed_American
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:06am

      B.S.!!!
      You tell that to the people of the world who have risked death and lost everything they had to reach America, to become U.S. Citizens!!! You tell that to our Men and Women in the military who defend this nation 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Who sacraficed ALL to ensure the freedoms that you so coldly cast aside!!!
      You are a spoiled idiot who knows nothing of which you speak!!!!

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    • DixT
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:10am

      You are such a “dweeb”!

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    • Cavy from VA
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:18am

      Yeah your a freakin “Chump” alright. I guess all us mouth breathers have not advanced as far as you “progressives” have … your sooooooo intellectual ….
      ZEEZIL say you should go to Uranus … I’d say you are already “in” URANUS … get your head out and take a breath.
      Freakin Airhead!

      TEA!!!

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    • justneedaname
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:19am

      Chump, people like you is what is wrong with this country. I’ll be glad when all of your type are gone.

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    • AOL_REFUGEE
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:25am

      You really are a chimp, Chump.

      Is life and death ‘so 19th century’, too? Tell you what. Since, to you, “The earth is one country and mankind its citizens”, and because your so bored with your freedom here, move to Cuba.

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    • mils
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:28am

      Bull pockey….i believe many of our problems are from Americans not being Americans and showing respect for our country, treaditions, laws, each other.
      If you dislike the flag and cannot show respct..leave..
      It’s not cute to act like a child about these things…

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    • sndrman
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:28am

      i’m really not into “citizen of the world kinda non-sense”. people come up with that kinda thinking because they are not AMERICAN and do not live in the GREATEST COUNTRY EVER IN WORLD HISTORY………if i lived in a loser country and envied AMERICA i would come up with one world,no borders etc…… if AMERICA is so bad i don’t see mexicans cubans boat people going to other countries why always come to AMERICA think it through……

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    • Imthatguywiththeface
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:37am

      Obvious troll is obvious…

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    • patriotsofworkingamerica
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:48am

      The earth is a mass of rock and gasses. It spins within a system of dead planets and exploding stars. Life on earth is fragile. The continents divide and continue to move on a bed of molten lava. Land masses are constantly being developed and destroyed. The difference between our planet and all others in existence, thus far, is the fact we have life. Please explain the logic of one planet within billions of rock formations containing life? Within that single life force, amongst plants and animals, why is Man the only species with free thought? We have the daily ability to make life altering decisions. The planet does not. Within the“citizens” of the globe why is it that the United States of America has consistently shown the ability to right most of the world’s wrongs. We are not a perfect society, but we as Americans rule our lives with God’s law. Call it what you want but without true faith there is eventually only anarchy. Eventually you will eat your own. I think Shockey is attempting to illustrate the fact that all life is precious but all Americans should feel EXCEPTIONAL, thanks to God. In case people haven’t noticed lately the citizens of the globe are on fire. When it comes time to put out the fire who will the rest of the world turn to if not U.S.God Bless America.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:53am

      And when horses fly. Many of us still believe in America and show patriotism at the symbol of the flag during the National Anthem. The linebacker Ryan is a jerk to even question someone looking around. I often look around, if for no other reason than to see the people showing respect to our Country gives me an extra warm feeling. But, glancing for a second or two is not gawking..
      .
      Maybe Ryan, he glanced at your bench to see if you were a worthy opponent. I take it, Ryan was one of the offenders who doesn‘t show appreciation to our Country or he wouldn’t be offended.

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    • forthepeople
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:59am

      Chump : Hope you realize that you would not have the same choice or freedoms ( to spout off ) in many other Countries ? Try that behavior in the east and they would be knocking at your door .

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    • Seasoldier
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:01am

      This is exactly why there ought to be compulsory national service in which every citizen, upon reaching the age of 18, should be required to spend two years in service to our country. This would not have to be military service exclusively. It could include any branch of the government and the type of service should be chosen by the individual citizen concerned. However, the first year should be served outside the U. S.. Again it could be in the country of the citizen’s choice. The second year should be served in the U. S., but it should not be in the part of the country where the citizen grew up. After satisfactorily completing such service the citizen would be free to pursue whatever career they desire. After living in another country and then seeing some of our own country beyond where they grew up, I’m willing to bet that the majority of citizens would have acquired some appreciation for the United States and what it stands for. Semper Fi

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    • NoRoomForSocialismHere
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:07am

      A new faith Bahá’í Faith
      http://www.bahai.us/welcome/founders-and-history/history/
      23 May 1844 – Siyyid Ali-Muhammad, a 25-year-old merchant in the city of Shiraz, Persia (now Iran), announces that He has been sent by God to prepare humanity for a new age and the imminent appearance of another Messenger even greater than Himself. He takes the title of the Bab (meaning “Gate” in Arabic).
      1893 – The first public mention of the Baha’i Faith in North America is made at the World Parliament of Religions held in Chicago.
      http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?id=14850
      4. Religion must defer to science. Embarrassed by creationists? The Bahai’s are for you. As one Baha’i divine put it, “If religious beliefs and opinions are found contrary to the standards of science, they are mere superstitions and imaginations.”

      5. The afterlife isn’t particularly frightening. Baha‘is don’t say much about the hereafter. Heaven is some sort of spiritual progression in close proximity to God. Hell is remoteness from God (not a very scary prospect for folks who’ve worked hard all their lives at staying remote from God). Universalism and a “wider hope” are pretty popular in America, and Baha’ism makes room for some very wide hope.

      6. Good religion does good works. With over a thousand development projects worldwide, Baha’is are a pleasing sight to the lost. Literacy training, tree planting and other social ministries are so much more fetching than evangelism and

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    • NoRoomForSocialismHere
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:09am

      Thank You Jeremy Shockey for being an AMERICAN

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:12am

      Spare me the globalist genuflection, moron. You are obviously the product of the clueless public school system. I hope it never has to become obvious to you how stupid you sound. It would kill you with humiliation.

      Of all the stuff going on in the world that is a result of the globalist movement and the suffering it is causing, for everyone, it is too faint for you to ‘see?’ Intellectually speaking, of course.

      You’d be kicking rocks over to find your next meal in a great deal of the world. Instead, you feed off the teat of Americas productivity, even in this time of serious recession, with ignorant lust. What a fool.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:16am

      Here is an analogy for Dummies to understand the “world is one” concept is not prudent;
      A family (Mankind) shares a house (Earth) and loves one another (Peace & Harmony),
      But they each have their own sovereign rooms (Countries), because they differ in so many ways.
      Each Individual (Sovereign people) needs their own “space” (Sovereign Country) because of their different lifestyles and Ideologies (culture).
      I understand the concept of your thought Chump, but unfortunately, it is not reality based.
      The only thing that would bring mankind together as one Human Race, would be if we were ever attacked by Aliens from another planet. Only then, would we recognize that we are one.
      But the devisive culture issue would return after time.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:18am

      @Chump…I thought you were in Hawaii on vacation. Did MIchelle let you use the computer?

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    • angelcat
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:25am

      I disagree with you. There is nothing jingoistic about showing respect and appreciation for your country. if you don’t respect and appreciate it, perhaps you would be better off living in a country you can respect and appreciate and doesn’t have the practices you consider so jingoistic.

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    • ssbstspd
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:25am

      Thats funny you say that. Who is gonna pay your welfare check ? CHUMP. Sharia law ?

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:31am

      @ChumpThreads.

      OUTSTANDING! Leave, then.

      Go to the back water, third world hellhole that is Iran, where the Baha’i faith was inventend in the 19th Century.

      But wait… isn’t that the same 19th Century you referenced?

      The time tested line still holds true: America… Love it, or leave it.

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    • Mario
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:33am

      CHUMPTHREADS

      You equate that to extreme patriotism ?

      The only extreme thing here is your ignorance. The United States of America IS the best country on the planet, period !

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:39am

      @Seasoldier

      Compulsory national service? Do you really think enslaving people like this idiot will make them love the nation more?

      Yes, a draft and compulsory service is slavery. You have no right to refuse, you’ll be thrown in prison if you try, and in most cases you’re paid a pittance compared to what you would be if you were in the private sector doing a comparitive job.

      Call it what you like, all you like, but there‘s no rational argument changes the fact that it’s slavery.

      No- better to have the current system. An all volunteer force is much more conducive to an honorable military.

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    • AirtechJr
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:40am

      “CHUMPTHREADS” previous post.

      “Hi! First post here.
      As an atheist, Humanist and secularist, I am sorry to see such a voice of reason and eloquence stilled. I didn’t always agree with Hitchens, but I always admired the courage of his convictions”

      Go figure…Who would have thought.

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    • loveliberty83
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:48am

      Bull-you make me sick you must not know history & what many men & women died for to make us free I lived in Germany for 5years because of the military -thats what people like you should do & you will appreciate this great country & the word freedom thank God we are not one nation Mr Obama just think if Japan own us now stupid

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    • JQCitizen
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:53am

      Chumpthreads:

      You’re a DumbA$$, and ignorant of how Exceptional the level of our Liberty has been in the entire history of the World.

      Perhaps the way things are going you may get to “know” this fact very intimately, even if through the lessons of Regret.

      I pray not.

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    • wkw58
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:56am

      Dolt….(a 19th Century word to describe you).

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    • ddg7
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:56am

      @Treaty…..Ditto!

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    • heyjim55
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:02pm

      Oh we have a New World order Marxist, who wants a border less world where we all live happily with a size ten boot on the back of our necks. Out with all that old freedom and liberty stuff and in with that new and exciting totalitarianism where everyone worships the same Dear Leader. I think Michael Savage said it best Leftism is a form of mental retardation.

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    • darunc80
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:03pm

      You wouldn’t think that unpatriotic people would be willing to lay down their lives to protects their rights and privileges…their way of life. I believe patriotism is a natural and necessary part of life…a love of your people and your lands. In my experience, unpatriotic people are either extremely spoiled and unaware or they believe, rightly or wrongly, that their country is “bad” or “unworthy.”

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    • azulwolf
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:07pm

      Although the world has the technology to eradicate hunger, illiteracy, and a myriad of other problems, it has chosen to be selfish. Having had the chance to travel the world, and experience its’ cultures, the United States of America is still the best nation, and a shining republic that can be looked up to. Although as a nation we do have problems, we owe an allegiance to those that have sacrificed for this freedom, and the foundation it was built on. Respect is a token to what we have been given, and a pledge that we will try to improve what we have been entrusted with. Hence our hand over our heart during the national anthem.
      The opportunity to play sports at a professional level is a gift. Those who watch the games make it possible. Let us not forget where we have come from, and be humble.

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    • recondenny
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:09pm

      You GO Jeremy. Once a CAIN, always a CAIN.

      chumpthreads is a marxist commie slimeball. I’m done with PC

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    • PPMStudios
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:14pm

      @ ProbIemSoIver

      Bernie Sanders is a self-described Democratic Socialist. He should go too….

      Remember what happened in the 1930‘s when a group of ’Democratic Socialists’ came together in Germany…. Didn’t turn out very well…

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    • aragona
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:15pm

      They are just following our president’s example.

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    • CS_GUY
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:26pm

      Tell us, oh great enlightened one………….hat size about 14.5″ right?

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    • Skee
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:31pm

      @chumpthreads
      The new word of the day children is Jingoistic.
      Bill Ayers and Micheal Moore use this hip new word.
      Start drinking the koolaide now so
      you can grow up to be a mindless zombie
      and be apart of the happenin crowd on Wall St.

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    • VigilantGuardShark
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:33pm

      You need to pull your head out of your ‘Star Trek’ induced eutopian fantasy and get back to reality. There is no way there will EVER be a single ‘World Government’, traditions, cultures, religious beliefs, racial morays, and good old fashioned Patriotic Spirit, will not allow it. Tell me that all of Brazil for example will give up their unique Brazilian identity to be lumped together with all ‘South-west Hemisphere’ inhabitants? Nope, not gonna happen.

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    • 50BMG
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:38pm

      Anyone who thinks that nationalism can be eliminated, and a one-world order imposed, is loony. Human beings aren’t wired that way.

      And it’s funny, how the same people who want to tear down American patriotism are also cheering on tribalism and religious zealotry in the Arab Spring. Are they truly interested in a one-world order, or just a world order that doesn’t include the United States?

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    • jmc610
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 12:57pm

      Chump,

      I think North Korea’s looking for a dictator…

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    • junior1971
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 1:01pm

      Hey citizen of the world, move to China, Russia, North Korea, Zimbabwe, anywhere but here! You got your user name right chump!

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    • UrbanCombatSurvivor
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 1:14pm

      For those who don’t know:

      Baha’i is a religion that believes their prophet tells them that all races should mix together. They believe there were two prophets alive in the 1890s or so. His name was Bahá‘u’lláh, and there was another one whose name I can’t recall atm.

      I’ve had conversations with them in the past trying to understand their faith, and what I could come away with was that, in essence, it‘s their goal to mix all of the world’s races into one, I guess they feel no one race is good enough as God created them. They also want to mix all countries into one..

      So, in short, it is a religious formation of communism. It’s adherents seem to really believe in it, the same was secular communists believe in their system…

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    • jnobfan
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 1:18pm

      Now I know why you are called a Chump

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    • jabazz
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 1:27pm

      Chumpwhatever

      Where in the h do people like this come from?

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    • smallbutloud
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 1:41pm

      “the earth is one country & mankind it’s citizens”??? Pleeease!! The United States of America is OUR country!! If these men can’t take 5 minutes to pay respect to OUR country & THEIR country, SHAME ON THEM!!! They make a better than average living here in this country & should be GRATEFUL to do so!!

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    • puzzlerman
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 1:44pm

      Then move out.

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    • disque-0-duc
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 2:09pm

      Yeah, and your ideas are sooooooo, 1960′s. Hippy.

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    • Todd Kinsey
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 2:42pm

      Then why don’t you leave and make room for someone who wants to live in the greatest nation in history. Perhaps North Korea or Venezuela, I hear they’re lovely this time of year.

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    • Tom K
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 3:01pm

      @CHUMPTHREADS: Oh no you one world idiot ! America was created by the Grace of God and is seperate from the rest of the world. America is a destination for those that want to breathe and live free. Your buddy Obama doesn’t show respect for our flag or our country and this is now reflected in our society. I’ll bet that many of the “ Texans ” players are not even from Texas. You and Obama can love America or leave her. You two head on out to Kenya and hang out with Barry’s brother in that little hut and never come back, please.

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    • cvtppatriot
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 3:06pm

      What is an embarrassment is people like you and obviously some Houston Texans.

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    • TimH
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 3:09pm

      Jesus died for chumps too.

      http://www.BornAgainHeathens.com

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    • JPinGA
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 3:36pm

      Stupid is as stupid says………whatdayathink, stupid!!

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    • lynda1276
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 3:41pm

      lol- it’s all in the name..

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    • gunslingr45
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 3:41pm

      yup just like you they have no respect for the flag which means you have none for the people who have fought and died for it. and yet you would worship a marxist like Oblumber and his marxist flag I would wager.

      “For those who have fought for it freedom has a sweet taste the protected will never know”

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    • 1GirlUSA
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 3:46pm

      BULLTICKY…then go live with the Baha’ if you cannot show respect for the country that you are living in, no one will miss you.

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    • jackbauer
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 4:09pm

      I’m pretty sure Chump the Chump meant “The Bahai Faith.” They are a faith/cult that has been working for many years to bring about the “One World Religion” via the UN. It’s a universalist group that believes all faiths the same, all prophets from all faiths are equal, Jesus was just a prophet, can’t we just all get along, sing and dance together, etc…..

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    • bigal54
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 4:52pm

      And just what left wing college did you get that from comrade?

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    • One Patriot
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 4:56pm

      Obama set a poor example by not covering his heart while the anthem played. He looked like the inappropriate, America hating, manchurian, muslim/marxist jerk he is, while the others on stage ALL covered their hearts.
      And btw, I’m an American citizen, NOT a world citizen!

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    • Deputy
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 5:06pm

      Well at least you have the right name for the tripe you just typed

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    • reaper69
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 5:08pm

      Bovine excrement! They were being disrespectful and he called them on it!

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    • cuinsong
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 5:55pm

      When we have people like you who forget what this nation is all about we can only expect things to degenerate further. I wrote this song for you?
      http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_9134749

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    • sondoggie
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 6:33pm

      There are millions who would gladly take your place and love this good nation.

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    • Steel
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 6:54pm

      Loon!

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    • 1968cap
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 6:56pm

      Try not to think too much, the use of such big words is probably taxing to a featherweight like you. Don’t forget patriotism got and keeps you where you are today.

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    • jay5775
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 6:58pm

      Nah you’re just a moron.

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    • ConnyUSMC
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 6:58pm

      Fine. Feel free to find another corner of the “country” to squat in. A great perk of living in this particular jingoistic, nationalistic part of the planet is that you’re free to leave any time you wish.

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    • msweeney
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:23pm

      Perhaps we should just ship people who don’t have any respect for the US somewhere else for a while. Let them bitch about Hugo Chavez, or Kim Jong-Il’s son, or the like– oh, wait, they couldn’t do that there. I guess they have the right to not give a crap, but it just makes you want to slap them silly.

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    • avgconservative
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:58pm

      Well, this is certainly the most stupid remark I’ve seen today… Ba’hai????? Oh my gosh.

      http://FliptheLib.com

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    • luhkeydad
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:28pm

      Hey chump, you are the kind of person that got allot of participation awards right? I agree with the man! Show respect for the country you live in! Or go to Europe and just be part of nothing….

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    • therookieblogger
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:38pm

      @chumpchange whatever….so you‘re saying that there shouldn’t be no country then…pathetic!

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    • paintbrushbright
      Posted on December 20, 2011 at 1:31am

      Would you perfer sig Hiel instead of the American Flag. When you forget about that flag that’s when you have fallen off the tree and rotting on the ground.

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    • Servant Of YHVH
      Posted on December 20, 2011 at 9:41am

      @chumpThreads
      “Public professions of patriotism are so 19th century. Jingoistic nationalism is an embarrassment, not a virtue.”
      “I think the Baha’is have it right: “The earth is one country and mankind its citizens.”
      Well I’m not totally sure if you are trying to prove that you are a “chumpthread” or if you are wishing that you could grow up to be one. One thing that you did show is that these “Baha’is” are not above making stupid statements with foolish thoughts. And you say that you agree with them so I guess that shows us something as well.

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    • proudinfidel54
      Posted on December 20, 2011 at 12:49pm

      CHUMPTHEADS, you need to walk up to Jeramy and tell him that, but I imagine a coward like you can only hide in your mommies basement and spout that kind of anti-American Rhetoric. that is if you are not at some anti-Christian, anti Christmas rally. Shout out to Shockey.

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    • ripley
      Posted on December 20, 2011 at 7:14pm

      Oh knock it off. Without borders, the world would be in alot more chaos.

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  • Dirty Harry
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:52am

    It’s a dependable tool for separating low lifes from the patriots. It works here on The Blaze as well – the low lifes are defending the thuggish Texans, and the patriots are defending Shockey.

    It really is a mirror on society. Look at the solid character of those defending the national anthem and our flag, then compare them to the flimsy, shaky, anything-goes loosey-goosey nature of the other side. The other side it what is wrong with this country.

    And as for the “freedom from” comment, it was illustrative of the ignorance of “the other side.” This thread is not about religion, nor are the players’ opinion (Shockey) subject to an such restrictions.

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  • sandmannc40
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:47am

    I am glad that there are Pro players that take the National Anthem to Heart. I am a Panthers fan, and now I am a Proud Panthers Fan.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:56am

      I am aTexan fan but Shockey is right. I would disagree with him on tattoos though. If he read his Bible it would say not to mark on your body.

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    • minnierv
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:14am

      I love Shockey, and I love my country and my national anthem but I remember being taught that you should stand at attention and be silent during the national anthem . . . you put you hand over your heart for when you recite the Pledge Of Allegiance.

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  • JawsyD
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:47am

    It‘s just like a Liberal to point out what other people are doing instead of focusing on what Jeremy’s issue was. Let‘s defer blame to those patriotic American’s. It’s all the Libs got.

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  • KingCanon
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:45am

    Now there’s a real SHOCKJOCK! You go boy! This is AMERICA and we have NO ONE to blame but ourselves for loosing it!

    SHOCKEY is to AMERICA what TEBOW is to CHRISTIANITY!

    DO THE SHOCKEY! And remember…
    YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!

    THE SHOCKEY!
    THE SHOCKEY I TELL YA!

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    • KingCanon
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:49am

      What is the SHOCKEY you ask?

      THE SHOCKEY IS PLACING THAT HAND OVER YOUR HEART DURING THE ANTHEM AND PLEDGE!
      JUST DO IT!

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    • badswing
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:55am

      i am afraid of the possibility of nationalism overtaking patriotism. orwell…George Orwell wrote that nationalism was one of the worst enemies of peace. He defined nationalism as the feeling that your way of life, country, or ethnic group were superior to others. These types of feelings lead a group to attempt to impose their morality on any given situation. When those standards were not met, more often then not, war would result.

      In contrast he stated that patriotism was the feeling of admiration for a way of life etc. and the willingness to defend it against attack. The obvious difference between the two is that while patriotism is a passive attitude, nationalism is aggressive by nature

      btw, my thought was that you held your hand over your heart if you were wearing a hat and it wasnt necessary if you were not.

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    • Theodwulf
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:12am

      @badswing Orwell didn’t say anything was wrong with “Nationalism” , He mainly was reflecting on “fascism” and “Totaltarianism”…Huge difference. Nationalism is why a group of people have a Nation, as they identify with each other and not with an existing Nation state. Patriotism is a devotion to that Nation state that one identifies with as a Nationalist. You can be a Nationialist and not a patriot, but you can’t be a Patriot without being a Nationialist… for obvious reasons.

      Fascism, he compared with “Bullies” and specificly used that word to descibe fascists (in a letter in the mid 1940s)

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:08am

      @KingCanon… Duh !! Dy, Dy, Dyeeny, meeny, mynee, moe…

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    • KingCanon
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 10:51am

      DEmint… DEpart & DEsist!
      Then grow up my DEmented nonDEfending Defiling Declinare!

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    • NOBAMA201258
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 2:17pm

      Amen! Do you suppose Shockey and Tebow get so much grief from “people” because they are white?

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  • AwakenedGiant
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:45am

    It is becoming obvious that Americans are awakening and standing up for what is good and right. The pendulum swung in the wrong direction in this country and we are fighting to get it back. A wave is coming

    Thanks for standing up and speaking up, Jeremy Shockey

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:53am

      I used to think Shockey was a complete idiot, but this has me reconsidering that position. He obviously struck a nerve with the Texans players. If he hadn’t, why would they get so defensive?

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    • AwakenedGiant
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 9:22am

      You can be a complete idiot and still have respect for your country. The negative wave that took over this country is the result of the MSM, Hollywood, Michael Moore hypocrite types, the John Kerry type of Democrat that has bad mouthed out military, like Durbin and Reed to their own benefit. Democrats have become the lowest form of life on the planet to retain power even destroying the country. Bad behavior is applauded and celebrated in this country, so much so that there is a strong pushback against wholesome roll models like Tebow, one person. Just one person can make a stand. This year, I have decorated my house for Christmas like no other year and the neighbors have commented on how beautiful it is, I wanted to make a stand myself.

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:44am

      True that.

      Too bad you can’t post pictures of your Christmas decorations. I‘ll bet they’re awesome! Your neighbors are lucky to have you. :) Merry Christmas and a blessed new year to you and yours!

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    • AwakenedGiant
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:47am

      Thank You, BioHazard

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  • M24
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:44am

    ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY NO RESPECT Thats Why So Many Players leave the sport and end up Broke

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:33am

      Or toked up on drugs, ghetto crime or other worthless example of someone with a lot of money, no familial upbringing and no respect.

      Of course on the other side of the coin, professional players are treated like a piece of meat by the franchise. Both management and the players in many, many cases have their priorities and values all messed up. Starts with the family and our really whacked out educational system.

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  • AmeriCat
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:42am

    I have a new hero…..Jeremy Shockey!

    Respect, even reverence during our National Anthem is a simple thing to do,
    the least we can do on any ordinary day to show our love for our Country.

    We may not be uniformed.
    We may not have ever recited the Soldier’s Creed.
    But….we CAN participate by honoring our Anthem, Pledge, Military, and Country.

    Jeremy Shockey….a huge thank you to YOU.
    We have been furious at those who hoot and cheer during the anthem!
    No, it’s NOT cute.

    Such dis-respect is simply a self-serving gimmick for attention!
    You have expressed our thoughts perfectly.
    Thank you!

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  • okdavidson
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:40am

    AMEN! glad there are some big people taking a stand FOR America, FOR respect of our great country, FOR God, someone who is PRO good things!! So nice to see these stories! thank you Blaze!

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  • Rayblue
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:39am

    You have to teach these kids what it means to be American because they don’t know. Nobody showed them the graves at Arlington or Normandy. Or took them to a vet hospital. They were turned away by their own ignorance and the lack of guidance. They exalted in their ignorance afterward. Proud of nothing and holding themselves above any and all. That being said, does Mr. Shockey need another tattoo ? He looks like a circus freak.
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    • AmeriCat
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:51am

      Extremely good point!

      Our youth has never been taught
      the why and how and when to honor and respect our Country.

      It is the beginning of a re-awakening to see a few step forward

      and lead a dignified show of respect for America,
      and all for which it stands.

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  • seejanemom
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:29am

    Burn a flag in front of me and I will kick your a$$ UP your throat, but if you DEFER to public displays of patriotism, I can understand that.

    Just don‘t laugh and talk during my Anthem while I am observing my own respectful ritual or there’s going to be trouble.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:34am

      Good sentiment. My grandpa used to say: “They’ll have to take 2 people to the hospital….to get my foot outta your a$$.” Or, “I’ll stomp a mud puddle in your butt.”

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  • david3755
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:27am

    A good observation. You can see the same thing when obama hears the national anthem and does the crouch salute.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:32am

      Wow, my exact first thought.

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    • AmeriCat
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 8:02am

      Golly gee…you’re right!
      Never thought about it that way,
      but after years of seeing his quirky mannerisms….

      it is now very clear that his every move and gesture is orchestrated
      representing an unspoken message, a signal,
      or a man-child, juvenile mockery of someone, or something, he doesn’t like.

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  • disenlightened
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:26am

    Gangstas on the Texans. Millionaire thug life in the NFL.

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  • emertz8413
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:22am

    Good for him! I think it’s time for ALL Americans to stand up for America, even if you think there’s room for improvement.

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  • ares338
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:15am

    Kids are not being taught to respect certain things in school like they used to be. Actually the parents should teach this and the schools should reinforce it. Just scan the crowd at a sporting event during the playing of the National Anthem.

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  • toomuchgovt
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:09am

    I am happy to see more people that are in the spot light taking a stand for Jesus and America. Maybe we can change the anti-Jesus, anti-America garbage that has plagued our younger generations.

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    • Free2speakRN
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:36am

      Good post!

      Not only unAmerican, but these guys and so many are so ‘thankless’ for what they have. From school to sports, kids are getting fewer and fewer decent leaders to follow. Top down. What a shame.

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  • BURNBABYBURN
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:09am

    I think Demco called this one right. Don’t worry about what the other players were doing. How many on his team didn’t put their hand to their heart? 5, 10, 15? Judge not Jeremy.

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    • SlimnRanger
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:15am

      God Bless you Jeremy, I know your parents are very proud of you as most of us Okies are

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    • seejanemom
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:20am

      Yeah.

      This is AMERICA, to use his own words.

      Freedom “FROM” something, unfortunately, is part of that whole “liberty and justice for all” thing.

      Sorry, Jere.

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    • loveliberty83
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 11:58am

      they are copying their leader

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  • 000degrees
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:04am

    If you will notice, there is a pretty consistent thread of disrespectful behavior toward the flag and during the anthem. What is more notable are the people that show proper respect. Maybe because there are fewer of them. It really should not be such a big deal. Just do the right thing and this is once again a non issue. Show respect at all times in all situations and a ton of our “problems” would vanish….

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:59am

      Before now, I might have agreed with you. But now we must be about re-educating, or educating for the first time, people in the ways of our culture. The silent example is not enough any longer. We REAL AMERICANS must stand up, vocally and by example, to remind people how to behave in our country. These are our customs, our traditions, our very way of life. You support them, embrace them, too, or you certainly may leave here and go somewhere else you are happier. (Good luck on that venture).

      AMERICA IS FREE because of the BRAVE. Thank you Jeremy Shockey.

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  • endgamer
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:00am

    Jeremy loves his country in the traditional way.. It is the right of Texans players (right or wrong) to salute the flag as they choose and if they choose to do so. Right, wrong or indifferent it’s why people love this country.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:36am

      Gamer……
      What you say with regards to‘the right’ to respect or not respect ‘the flag’, is essentially correct for a free society.
      However, I’ve been to Phillies games where there is a lack of respect for the flag by too many. There are hats on heads, people talking, cheering before the end of the anthem, etc. In my opinion, its not as bad as at football games, but its bad.

      Lack of respect for our flag is part of a larger problem. I see lack of respect for other fans as well as the players. In fact, those things mentioned above are manifestations of why we have the problems we have in our country.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:00am

    .
    Kids from the getto don’t know any better………………

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  • cosette
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:00am

    Jeremy, Thank you for speaking out on a subject which is sure to incite the knuckle dragging mouth breathers in your ranks. America is every bit as proud of you as you are of her.

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  • Meyvn
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 6:59am

    The Lord will humble us all in the very near future.

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  • quarter horseman
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 6:58am

    Great job Jeremy! you are taking a stand! I wish more could be like you.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:10am

      Good for Jeremy Shockey!

      Is anyone surprised, really? This ‘is’ the National Felon League, afterall. Have you ever researched how many players have criminal records of some sort? “Staggering” would be a good word.
      Kids with bad attitudes are tolerated because they are good athletes, arrests covered up, indifference to a team mentality, on and on it goes.
      Why do people still follow a sport that is the poster-child for a failed social policy that was started by the “Great Society”?

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  • Apple Bite
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 6:57am

    Give it up Texans, Shockey is All American, like Kyle Turley….

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  • militarybrat1
    Posted on December 19, 2011 at 6:54am

    Don’t really like Jeremy Shockey, but he is correct in this matter. All it takes is a glance to see when people are not putting their hand over their heart for national anthem.

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    • 1968cap
      Posted on December 19, 2011 at 7:03pm

      It is the patriotism of many good men, and now women, whose sacrifices have made this country what it is. Let me guess you are one of the unwashed dirt bags of the OWS crowd with a degree in some social engineering program – which would only get you a cup of coffee if you had the money to go with it. Get with it or get out.

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