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Cartoon Depicts Nazi Victory Over US in World War II Due to Balanced Budget Amendment

The folk over at Political Wire have chosen a highly provocative cartoon to make a point about the perils of passing a balanced budget amendment.

Cartoon Depicts Nazi Victory Over the US in World War II Due to Balanced Budget Amendment

The cartoon, drawn by Arizona Daily Star artist David Fitzsimmons for his August 1 “Cartoon of the Day,” shows the U.S. Capitol looking more like Beirut in the 1980′s- pockmarked with bullets, buildings in near collapse, even the Washington monument snapped in half. The Flags of Hitler’s Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan fly high above the U.S. Capitol.

As inflammatory as this talking point may be, it is also based on a false premise. As Ken Shepherd of News Busters points out, the proposed balanced budget amendment:

“would require the President to submit and Congress to enact a balanced budget, cap federal spending at 18% of GDP, and prevent future federal tax increases. Congress could only waive these provisions by a two-thirds vote, except in times of declared war or by three-fifths majority during times of military conflict. It would also require a three-fifths majority to raise the federal debt limit.”

Facts are indeed stubborn things. Congress promptly declared war on Germany and Japan in 1941. And perhaps with a balanced budget amendment in place, Congress would reassert its Constitutional authority to declare war going forward.

(h/t NewsBusters)

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  • ChiefGeorge
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:51pm

    Watch “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” What is going on in the US is eerily reminescent of the times the Germans found themselves in even with the War on. Eventually it caught up to them. They were much smaller and easily advanced on via land and sea. With us its a bit different. The results will be the same. War is coming to the US whether you believe it or not.

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    • hersey10
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 9:07pm

      Good point George , I watched that again yesterday .

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    • GadsdenPatriot
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 9:13pm

      When we’re forced to defend ourselves from our tyrannical government it will be us who are labeled “Christian/Jew terrorist traitor” and we will be the ones rounded up for mass slaughter.

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    • TheWholeTruth
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 10:50pm

      Here’s something to read.. i don’t know if it will post.. they haven’t shown up YET.. wonder why? but then after i post this they’ll ALL be there LOL Sorry if they are but this is IMPORTANT! Having to do with the balanced budget amendment. you must read this excerpt from a constitutional lawyer of over 50 years (if i’m not mistaken) Publius-Huldah’s Blog.

      What Would We Get From the BBA ?

      In plain English, this is what the 10 Sections of the BBA mean [but read it yourself - it's very short]:

      Section 1: They won’t spend more than they take in unless they vote to spend more than they take in.

      Section 2: They won’t spend more than 18% of the GDP unless they vote to spend more than 18% of the GDP.

      Section 3: The President will write the budget: He will designate the taxes, and what the money will be spent on. He won’t spend more than he decides to tax you for, and he won’t spend more than 18% of the GDP. The GDP is a computation made by the Bureau of Economic Analysis in the Department of Commerce, an agency under the control of the President. [Do you see? The President controls the agency which computes the number which limits his spending.]

      Section 4: Congress won’t make a law raising your taxes unless they vote to raise your taxes.

      Section 5: Congress won’t raise the debt limit unless they vote to raise the debt limit.

      Sections 6 & 7: Congress can waive the above provisions of the BBA (except for Sec. 4 which says they can’

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    • UlyssesP
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 11:59pm

      ChiefGeorge,
      I’ve watched it several times, all 4 hours and every time, I‘ll hear or see something I didn’t the previous viewing. It is intense and informative. The early “Rise” is really enlightening. Scary too, what people will give up and what they will accept and allow just for a little comfort and supposed security and stability.

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    • Karena
      Posted on August 2, 2011 at 12:15am

      I just found a copy of the book and purchased it. I didn’t know there was a film! Is it online or do I need to look on Netflix?

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on August 2, 2011 at 5:23am

      I never had a balanced budget you know
      We spent a lot of money on Defense back in those days

      kinda like we do today.

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    • Lucy Larue
      Posted on August 2, 2011 at 7:26am

      CHIEFGEORGE,
      “Those who don’t know history…..”,yadda yadda.

      Two good non fiction books that are not quite as heavy a tome as “Rise and Fall…” are titled,“In The Garden of Beasts” and “The Zookeeper’s Wife”. Both books illustrate that our freedoms are not lost overnight. We lose them little by little.

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    • sandmannc40
      Posted on August 2, 2011 at 10:03pm

      I have seen it. and Yes our Congress, President and Media (unHoly Trinity) are leading us down that same path. And the America people still do nothing…………………….

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  • Fernyyy
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:50pm

    Looks good except for maybe being Chinese flags in 2015 and the words “so this is what happens when we get into too much debt.”

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  • Glenn is Right
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:49pm

    Pulling back on the stick won’t save the plane from crashing, you have to pull it back and hold it.

    All we did today was go from Full Dive to Three Quarter Dive. America, the Plane, will still crash, just 100 yards later.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 9:59pm

      Please refrain from giving flying lessons until you learn to fly. When your plane stalls you put the stick forward to gain speed so lift will occur over the wings. Please read “Stick and Rudder.”
      http://www.amazon.com/Stick-Rudder-Explanation-Art-Flying/dp/0070362408
      And then give some advice about flying. Signed; “I’m not very friendly when you shoot at me and my P-51.”

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    • quickstudy
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 10:11pm

      He said “dive” not “stall”. You pull back and hold it to get out of a dive and at the same time you reduce the throttles to idle.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 11:15pm

      Come on “QuickStudy” and/or “Glenn is Right”. You both are wrong and have no idea about what you are talking about. Any pea-shooters or big-iron pilots out there that want to comment?

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    • Wilkins
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 11:26pm

      QE3 will be just more pulling back on the stick to make the plane go up, despite dropping airspeed and an engine starved of fuel. That‘s why this economy’s gonna stall into the terrain unless someone pulls the little kids out of the front seats and puts the real pilots in their place. 2012.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 11:37pm

      @Wilkins
      I do not want to see a QE3 either. However, you too, need to read “Stick and Rudder”. Pulling back on the stick does not make a plane go up. It makes a plane go slow. Now that you have a clue, answer my 5 questions. Please!

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    • Bollockz
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 11:41pm

      @the-monk, please refrain from correcting someone’s flying lessons unless you can pay attention to what was said. No here did he/she state
      the plane was “stalled.” He/she stated the plane was in a nose dive. Pushing the stick forward has no purpose accept diving at an accelerated rate. Signed-“pay attention”

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 2, 2011 at 12:25am

      @Bollockz
      You said “please refrain from correcting someone’s flying lessons unless you can pay attention to what was said. No here did he/she state
      the plane was “stalled.” He/she stated the plane was in a nose dive. Pushing the stick forward has no purpose accept diving at an accelerated rate. Signed-“pay attention”
      Please tell me or show me where the word “nose dive” was used in any of the posts! As to flying lessons; better to have someone like me set them straight before someone like you are killed by a stupid what-to-be pilot. The purpose of flying is to have a certain amount of air going over and under the wings. You know, those two things that stick out from the right and left sides of a plane. The more air that goes over the wings, the greater the lift, the greater the lift, the more altitude you can acheive. The more altitude you can acheive, the higher you can fly and the less likely you will die on (or should I say, in) the ground. How many times have you had to dig 6 feet down to recover a pilot that pulled back on the stick, stalled, and held the stick back all the way to the ground? It’s a mess. So, please pay attention to what was said. You got it wrong. And in an airplane, you would be dead.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 2, 2011 at 1:01am

      @Bollockz
      You said, “please refrain from correcting someone’s flying lessons” What was actually said in the first post from was, “Pulling back on the stick won’t save the plane from crashing, you have to pull it back and hold it. All we did today was go from Full Dive to Three Quarter Dive. America, the Plane, will still crash, just 100 yards later.“ Remember that Bollockz”?
      Where did this, “please refrain from correcting someone’s flying lessons” come from? He has no flying lessons. And neither do you. Care to comment? I’m waiting. Will you take the 5 question test?

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 2, 2011 at 1:17am

      Nothing to say Bollockz?
      I didn’t think so. You are like MSNBC. No balls and no guts; just unshaven, unclean, messed up hair ultra-liberal progressive hacks.

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    • woodyb
      Posted on August 2, 2011 at 1:23am

      @ THEMONK — You have a case of Obamanitis, which means you think you know everything and nobody else knows anything. Read the statement :!!!!!!!!!

      Does “full dive to three-quarter dive” mean ‘stall’ to you? Sounds like you piloted a lot of dive bombers in WW-II (You do know what WW-II was, don’t you?)

      I have not piloted a dive bomber, but I did pass the ground portion of the pilot‘s test in the ’40s, and I do think I would want to pull back on the stick to get out of a dive, not push forward!!!!!!!!!

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 2, 2011 at 1:59am

      @woodyb
      You are just another want-to-be pilot. You have no idea about what you are talking about. You failed the 5 question test without ever answering a single question. Crash and burn woodyb, crash and burn!
      You deserve it.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 2, 2011 at 2:30am

      You are lucky that you failed your pilot test trasining and still live today.
      @ THEMONK — You have a case of Obamanitis, which means you think you know everything and nobody else knows anything. Read the statement :!!!!!!!!!
      Does “full dive to three-quarter dive” mean ‘stall’ to you? Sounds like you piloted a lot of dive bombers in WW-II (You do know what WW-II was, don’t you?)
      I have not piloted a dive bomber, but I did pass the ground portion of the pilot‘s test in the ’40s, and I do think I would want to pull back on the stick to get out of a dive, not push forward!!!!!!!!!

      What does Obama have to do with any of this? This is really simple. You have absolutely no idea about aircraft or airplanes. The only thing that you know about is Progressive ideas and Marxist and Communist propaganda. You wouldn’t know the difference between tail-fin or a propeller.
      Answer the 5 questions my friend. Come on… I’m waiting for you. You seem to know so much.

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    • JimCDew
      Posted on August 2, 2011 at 2:49am

      @MONK – I believe the point is not that we’re stalled but that we are already in the dive.

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    • briten821
      Posted on August 2, 2011 at 7:49am

      The-Monk… Are you serious? WHO GIVES A FLYING RAT’S HAT!!! It was an illustration! Nobody cares if you know how to fly, the point was about the economy! You are a TROLL! You get pleasure out of calling people idiots and starting arguments! GET A LIFE!

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    • twoifbysea
      Posted on August 2, 2011 at 7:58am

      The Monk,
      He is not referring to a stall. He is referring to a nose dive. No need to remind me not to fly with you.

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  • endgamer
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:49pm

    The banking cartels wanted the U.S. involved in WWII so they could enslave us to debt! We knew in advance of the Pearl Harbor Attacks ad ignored it! Secondly there are sources that say Japan did not attack us. We attacked ourselves..

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  • Rachel Madcow
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:49pm

    I guess the people over at Political Wire do not believe the World WAR II was actually a war. The balanced budget amendment has an exception for times of war. Its a shame and an out right insult to every American that served during WWII. Disgraceful.

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    • sWampy
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 9:28pm

      The left only has a few cards to play they have to play them, lies, fear mongering, race bating, class warfare, and voter fraud, why does anyone ever expect them to do something different?

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  • Glenn is Right
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:47pm

    Does David Fitzsimmons not realize we are already in debt and going deeper into debt, just not at full Obama speed.

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  • fliteking
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:47pm

    This guy, David Fitzsimmons, is the real thing when it comes to being a pile of worthlessness.

    If you follow his name (linked above) you will see a cartoon linking massmurderer Breivek (Norway) to Christianity in a not so subtle way.

    Oddly, if you follow the link of this picture to the next page, he then links Muslims with Breivek .

    In a rational persons mind this might make him anti-Christian and a racist.

    In the progressives circle he is no doubt a hero.

    палка дерьма

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 11:31pm

      Are you Russian? Didn’t realize it until your last post.

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    • Chuck Biscuits
      Posted on August 2, 2011 at 12:50am

      I went to high school with this idiot in Tucson back in the early 1970′s. He works for the AZ Daily (Red) Star, which makes the NYT look like this website. He fits right in. Some of us get wisdom, some stay stupid.

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  • endgamer
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:46pm

    A Balanced Budget Amendment doesn’t make sense as article 1 section 8 clearly states the enumerated powers the government has, granted by WE The People and what they can spend OUR money on..These powers are very few. A Balanced Budget Amendment only legalizes the unconstitutional spending we have today. We would not have these problems with the debt had the constitution been taken seriously and verbatim.

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    • TheWholeTruth
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 10:33pm

      You’re exactly right! The spending they are doing isn’t constitutional in the first place. Secondly, a balanced budget amendment is worthless about the same as the pay as you go act. The amendment states that they can’t spend more than 18% of GDP UNLESS they decide to. They can’t raise taxes UNLESS they decide to… funny thing that last bit on every line “UNLESS” might as well be USELESS. Besides, the amendment would LEGALIZE what at the moment is not, and that is the spending they are doing.

      This constitutional lawyer has it right. This is a must read on the Balanced Budget Amendment before you make up your minds that it‘s a ’good’ thing

      http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/

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    • TheWholeTruth
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 10:46pm

      Excerpt from Publius-Huldah’s Blog (see link in other post)

      What Would We Get From the BBA ?

      In plain English, this is what the 10 Sections of the BBA mean [but read it yourself - it's very short]:

      Section 1: They won’t spend more than they take in unless they vote to spend more than they take in.

      Section 2: They won’t spend more than 18% of the GDP unless they vote to spend more than 18% of the GDP.

      Section 3: The President will write the budget: He will designate the taxes, and what the money will be spent on. He won’t spend more than he decides to tax you for, and he won’t spend more than 18% of the GDP. The GDP is a computation made by the Bureau of Economic Analysis in the Department of Commerce, an agency under the control of the President. [Do you see? The President controls the agency which computes the number which limits his spending.]

      Section 4: Congress won’t make a law raising your taxes unless they vote to raise your taxes.

      Section 5: Congress won’t raise the debt limit unless they vote to raise the debt limit.

      Sections 6 & 7: Congress can waive the above provisions of the BBA (except for Sec. 4 which says they can’t raise your taxes unless they vote to raise your taxes) when there is a declared war or a “military conflict” which they think justifies their waiving the above provisions of the BBA.

      Section 8: Courts can’t order your taxes to be raised. [But you can bet your life that this section, together wi

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  • conservative510
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:43pm

    I wanna be relevant too. Look ma. I drew a mean picture.

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  • 00gabooga
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:41pm

    Who’s he kidding? Defense spending is the only cut they want to make. If they have their way now those flags will have crescents and scimitars all over them.

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  • Omnivore
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:41pm

    Well, when truth is your enemy, you’re just going to get crazier and crazier. It’s a foregone conclusion. Expect a lot more of this.

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  • GadsdenPatriot
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:41pm

    This cartoon would have been more appropriate if Barry wins in 2012.

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  • Son_of_Liberty
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:39pm

    “This new world hath been the asylum for the persecuted lovers of civil and religious liberty from every part of Europe. Hither have they fled, not from the tender embraces of the mother, but from the cruelty of the monster; and it is so far true of England, that the same tyranny which drove the first emigrants from home, pursues their descendants still.” Thomas Paine

    3%

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    • Micmac
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 10:04pm

      Don’t understand the 3%, but 3% of any population is all it takes to overthrow it.

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  • RightPolitically
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:37pm

    Fitzsimmons’ cartoon is stupid. Any real and effective balanced budget amendment would require a two-thirds vote to raise taxes and have special provisions in it for emergencies. This thing is smoke and mirrors. The Left is deathly afraid of balanced budgets. After all, their entire political life depends upon giving handouts to favored groups, even when we can’t afford it.

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  • Chet Hempstead
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:36pm

    He has a point. Any amendment is going to have to carve out an exception for time of war, and I don’t know when we’re ever going to not be in a time of war again.

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  • DagneyT
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:32pm

    Soooo…you want us all to go down to depths in debt, right? Oh…wait! Am I trying to use logic/common sense arguments on the left?

    Silly me.

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    • El Pistoffo
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 9:22pm

      So true.

      It’s no longer a myth. Stupidity IS contagious and it’s become an epidemic.

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  • BlazingInSC
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:31pm

    Fitzsimmons is an id10t. How someone like him can maintain a syndication while Robert Arial gets cut from The State Newspaper in South Carolina is beyond me. Here’s is a link to much smarter (and equally abusive) REAL political cartoonist. http://www.cagle.com/politicalcartoons/PCcartoons/arial.asp

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  • V-Forge
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:31pm

    We really expected a bunch of thieves to stop robbing us if we all just said please?
    2012. Bring it. This will end if good men finally wake the hell up.

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  • LoisLane1951
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:31pm

    Poor ignorant cartoonist.

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  • trolltrainer
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:31pm

    So we are not supposed to balance the budget and go into debt to…er…um…give idiot cartoonists more obama bucks? I don’t know, I give up…What is the alternative that balancing the budget will force us to accept?

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:30pm

    Who did that?Stalin?The Commies first Line of attack.

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  • Ron_WA
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:30pm

    Pretty tasteless. The liberal pundits will stoop to any level & their cronies will applaud & follow mindlessly even though they really don’t understand the issue.

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  • shirelover
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:27pm

    “what fools these mortals be…”

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  • drattastic
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:27pm

    If people like this twerp who drew the cartoon were running the show back in the 40s, we really would be speaking German.

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    • Ron_WA
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:47pm

      Amen! Of course back then there was no, TV, internet or mass media; they were still a simple, God fearing people & it seemed to work … progress is not always in the right direction …

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    • Omnivore
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:52pm

      @Ron; Communism was invented before the television. Just sayin’. Tyranny was around long before the industrial revolution. Check your premises.

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    • Ron_WA
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 9:13pm

      @OMNIVORE you’re right; my point was that even though evil, stupidity & plain injustice existed in various form before, it has grown more pervasive in the hyper-media/connectivity age

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  • oriondma05
    Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:24pm

    THis is also the same fool that came out immediately after the Gabby Giffords shooting to blame it on the tea party and Sarah Palin.

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    • fliteking
      Posted on August 1, 2011 at 8:41pm

      If this is the same guy—- he does not have the ability to see things for what they are, he is tainted by liberal hatred and progressive tunnel vision.

      I would sooner expect to win the Lotto than expect rational / funny commentary from him.

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