Catholic Bishops Call for End to Cuban Embargo
- Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:00pm by
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Since John Paul II’s turn as Pope, Catholics have had a deeply antagonistic relationship with communist regimes. However, given the aftermath of a recent trip by Catholic bishops to Cuba, that hostility may be lifting. That, or the Catholic bishops have spontaneously accepted the libertarian argument that free trade can end authoritarian governments. Either way, this report from Religious News Service may surprise some people:
Following Pope Benedict XVI’s recent trip to Cuba, U.S. Catholic bishops are pushing the State Department to lift the 50-year Cuban embargo in order to improve religious liberty and human rights for the Cuban people.
In a Tuesday (April 17) letter to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, Bishop Richard E. Pates of Des Moines, Iowa, the chairman of the bishops’ Committee on International Justice and Peace, pressed the Obama administration to pursue “purposeful engagement rather than ineffective isolation” with Havana.[...]
The embargo should be lifted, Pates wrote, so that “greater support and assistance may be provided to the ordinary citizens” of the country.
Pates’ approach may strike some observers as naive – after all, the Cuban government could easily be using its own people as economic human shields. However, this would be in keeping with the Catholic Bishops’ generally liberal turn in recent years.
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Comments (98)
smokeyridgerunner
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:29pmWhy? They decide to put missiles on their island against us.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:51pmwe tried to invade their country. remember bay of pigs?
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 2:30pmSince the Catholics are asking for this there‘s not a snow ball’s chance in Cuba that Obama will give in. He’ll only do it if he can twist it to benefit him.
Report Post »DV
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:11pmI’m well aware that there are statistically speaking fewer pedophile priests than pedophiles in the the general population of American men (3% compared to 7%). That’s probably also true if the comparison group is male teachers. BUT, the fact remains that the Catholic Bishops HAVE NO RIGHT to try to change American policies. That’s particularly true when every one knows that what the Bishops want is to flood this country with Catholics from Latin America. This wouldn’t be a “humanitarian policy,” it would be a crime against America and a humanitarian disaster. Imagine 120 million Mexican peasants pouring over the border … bringing 3rd world ignorance, poverty, and disease with them. And Catholic Bishops want this to happen?? Can you say TREASON? Sure you can.
Report Post »DrACP
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 12:52pmDear @DV,
Report Post »Give Obama and RINOS some time and we’ll be the third worlders trying to cross the border into Mexico! Let’s see what happens to your hate then!
DV
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:01pmDear Catholic Bishops: kindly shut the hell up about the embargo. We’ll stop the embargo when 1.) there’s a free and fair elections process in Cuba and 2.) when the Catholic Bishops expel the few remaining pedophiles among you. And you do KNOW that there are pedophiles among you. THEN you can lecture the American people to your heart’s content. Of course, since most Americans aren’t Catholic, we don’t have to listen to you. In other words, kindly shut the hell up and butt out of politics. You all seem to think that you’re members of Congress, so occasionally, we just have to remind you that you’re not. Oh … also give my most contemptuous regards to the Archbishop of Miami. You have no right to try to influence American immigration policy, so shut the hell up, Wensky! Jack ass. Moron. Go jerk yourself or get one of your alter boys to do it for you.
Report Post »BarackStalin
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:46pmYou are a truly vile and disgusting excuse for a human being, DV…
Catholic Bishops in America have just as much right to influence American politics as you and I…they are American citizens, you putz…
The fact that you would bring up the horrible actions of a few and ascribe them to the entire church just shows your bias and bigotry…
pedophiles are teachers, coaches, policemen, firemen, politicians, soldiers, doctors, nurses, rabbis, protestant preachers, mothers & fathers, and everything else you can think of besides just priests…
there are pedophiles in your neighborhood too and probably in your family…why don’t you get a handle on your own in-bred household before you cast stones at everyone else…
Report Post »edmundburk
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:57pm@PRAYIN4U- so is lutherism,calvinism,baptist,methodist, and pentolcostals, I think evengelicals have a bigger claim to being a “man made religion”.
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 10:11amstalin,
Report Post »I perceive the deception runs deep in you. The catholic leaders have become the same as those in Jesus’ time that he so openly and sternly rebuked. I could bring up a hundred traditions that are pounded into the heads of catholics and the usual replies and excuses for them from the indoctrinated lost parishioners. But what good would that do? You use stalin in your name, he was of the same mind set, ” A lie told enough times becomes the truth.” The fact is that the catholic church does the same thing that the progressives are trying to do with their big government policies.
You may as well recruit truthfully..like this, ” Come join us and we will take care of all your needs. No need to pray to God when we have our own vast selection of god’s, idols, beads, dead people and great a payment plan to absolve your sins. Paying indulgences is a free pass to live like hell and not worry about facing God and confessing your sins to Him. We have little booths set up where you can get it off your chest and avoid that whole feeling of conviction by the Holy Spirit for your crimes against God and man. We use mary instead of Jesus because she has no proven written laws for us to follow. Don’t worry about your feelings of guilt and shame….in time it willed be seared as with a hot iron and we will give you the words to speak to those that are a part of us in our sect. Don’t worry about wasting your time reading the Bible, we will tell you what it says.”
BarackStalin
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 3:34pmGideon,
Yeah Jim Jones, Jimmy Swaggert, Al Sharpton and Jim Bakker have the only path to Christ…
Open your mind, son. There’s many paths to salvation.
Report Post »garbagecanlogic
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 11:56amFrom this Catholic Academy graduate: Methinks the bishops should stick to undoing the child abuse in the church instead of sticking their noses in something they know nothing about. All they are looking for is more church members and will do anything to acquire them – just as they do with illegal aliens.
Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8
The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
Report Post »The U.N. Out Of The U.S.
BarackStalin
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 3:04pmThey know just as much about it as you do, and they have just as much right to comment as you…
American Bishops are American citizens too…
Methinks you should stick to undoing the sins your own dirty little life and stop denigrating an entire church for the actions of a few…
Report Post »CROCK-HANDLER
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:37amWhatdayasay, we drop the embargo and they drop the communisim?
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 10:08amRead they are allowing some private enterprise – allowing people to have their own businesses ( don’t you love the word ” allowing ?“ Can you imagine living under a government which may or may not ” allow ” you to start a business ??? wish our young, brainwashed Lefties could just realize where the Obama Big Brother government types are trying to take us ! Life would be hell – especially because so many of these kids are basically non-conformists ! WAKE UP , KIDS ! )
Report Post »iampraying4u
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 11:24amThe Roman Catholic church is the best man made relegion in the world
Report Post »taxpro4u03
Posted on April 22, 2012 at 11:57amDon’t lQQk now but if one were to actually READ the UN by-laws etc, it reads nearly identical to the communist manifesto — azzident? me don’t think so — the NWO is….. ‘communism.‘ You can thro the ’capitalist’ word around all you want (China is communist and CAPITALIST — That’s house come you kin git yer ipod/pad/Kindles at wally-world‘s ’fer cheap..) – Ol’ Great Usurper Uncle Abe sed “you can call a lamb’s tail a leg, but that don’t make it so.” btw — just HOW many countries are NOT on-board with their GUTS (land/people/resources) CHAINED to the UN? — N. Korea/IRAN; — might be one more – (Libya and Iraq JUST ‘decided’ to ante up –) — the Sabre rattler Hugo Chavez ATTEMPTED to ‘leave,’ – basically was told — “No Problem, but we’ll call in your DEBT” meaning — ‘we OWN you…’
Report Post »29brenda
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:12amLets not jump the gun. Committees within the USCCB can release all kinds of statements that do not have unanimous approval or consent from other bishops. This is a small ad hoc committee that has an opinion that really is not within its competency. These particular bishops are speaking from a humanitarian point of view, not political. Their weight or influence on catholics falls within a prudential judgement. This is the same group that attacked the Paul Ryan budget, with the same thinking. These bishops are not economist and do not understand what measures that are needed to get the country on fiscal stable ground. Bishop Richard Pates tends to lean left, he is a product of his generation and certainly does not reflect the attitudes and beliefs of most bishops.
Report Post »kcinco
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:03amCuban communism is evil and should not be supported in any way. When are Catholics going to realize that social justice as the world defines it is not compatible with Biblical teaching? Catholics were behind the curve ball on obamacare and now they are fighting against the contraception/abortion issue imposed on them. I was raised in the Catholic church and now understand that while Catholics are Christians, they are not taught what Jesus meant when he ministered social justice to the down-trodden. He empowered people to “heal” themselves, not wait for someone to carry them to the healing waters.
Report Post »hi
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:45amI agree. My son at Jesuit school was taught social justice. They said society caused people to be poor. Charity is diddly squat. The poor have a RIGHT to TAKE it from the rich.
I have found that many Christian/Cathohlic people believe that the government should help the poor. They have good intentions, but do not realize the end result such as destroying religious freedom, family values, keeping people in their sin, and so on.
Report Post »HappyBloodhound
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 10:18pmI agree. I had to leave the Catholic Church because I could no longer abide their liberal policies such as immigration and social justice. They got in bed with Obama and his ilk on Obamacare. Frankly, they should have known better. It is unfortunate that now they see themselves in a defensive position on the issue of abortion. I have sympathy for my fellow Catholic Christians, but I could no longer stand to attend Mass and hear sermons that preached that the working middle class needed to get on board with social justice in all its forms. Sad, a beautiful religion hijacked by Marxists.
Report Post »alwayshappy
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:24amSo just what has the embargo accomplished over all these years? I fear, little. Perhaps if the people of Cuba could get a real taste of all that America offers it might force them to make the changes that are necessary in their culture and society.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:44amSure worked like a charm in China.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:31amIt was Symbolic of: “Just say no to Communism” or “Eat dirt you Commie…”!
Report Post »Hollywood
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:15amNothing new under the SUN here. Pope Ratzinger, the pope during WW2, was a NAZI sympathizer, and viruently anti-semetic. He ,and the RC church, have the blood of MILLIONS, on their hands.[Not to say some Catholic priest weren't supportive of the Jews]. Why would the RC Church not be then, in favor of normalizing with a communist state. They were used to complete control of most of the know world during the DARK ages, for 1200 years. THAT, of course, is why there WERE Dark Ages.
Report Post »Many “Protestant” churches were guilty of the same.
I, as a Christian, believe God, re HIS view re HIS chosen people as stated in Genesis Ch 12, V3.
The rising anti Jewish sentiment, is an indication of the Last Days we are in. This was predicted. It is also predicted that 90% of the worlds’ population will be . See Zechariah Ch 14 V6. It describes the effects of a NEUTRON bomb. Co-incidentally, it was announced this week, IRAN, as part of their nuclear program, are advancing in Neutron bomb technology. REPENT and accept Jesus NOW, before it is too late!
Maranatha
G-WHIZ
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 10:29amLet there be more cubins in the US, than in Cuba. More charity for that regime, means more food for the regime to block access to and then sell to the population. King Berry Sotoro is a communist, and knows that lifting the ban, only, will help only the commies in charge, as it should be.
Report Post »hallkbrdz
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 5:54pmWell – It made Cuban cigars more expensive… And… ???
So – we embargo countries we don’t like, who have dictatorships – UNLESS – they have something we want (Oil – Middle East, Goods/Cheap labor – China). Too bad Cuba just never had anything important enough get most favored nation status while keeping dissidents in prison.
I agree – drop the embargo, it’s not very meaningful anyway since other countries in South America trade with them now (new cars, etc.).
Report Post »markdido
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:42pmThere are 196 countries on the planet. Only one, the U. S., has restrictions against Cuba. That means the other 195 countries are free to trade with Cuba, their citizens can vacation in Cuba, etc.
Report Post »So you can blame Fidel, not the U. S., for taking a beautiful country and turning it into a 3rd world shithole.
Gonzo
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 7:14am“Catholic bishops have spontaneously accepted the libertarian argument that free trade can end authoritarian governments.”
Report Post »How is that working out with China? Is that authoritarian regime ready to topple after 20 years of free trade…or is ours?
hi
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:46amGood point!
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:54pmok so china hasnt turned into anarchy….but havent they done a 180 turnaround? in terms of economic freedom, they are damn near where we are. 10 years from now, we will have less freedom than them.
Report Post »TrueSoundsOfLiberty
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 5:36amSo the Catholic Church has found it in their hearts to help those under oppression but the right wing “commie haters” would rather punish a whole country for the actions of the leaders. Grow up and grow a heart. The right would rather claim those those that floated here on makeshift rafts deserve to be here but those that can’t make it out of Cuba deserve the worst we can give to them.
Reagan extended to cold war and ran up the national debt to record levels all because he wanted to show who had the bigger whatever.
Let the Cuban people live.
Report Post »They love America!
It‘s really just a matter of time before the Castro’s fall and America is their shining star.They will be independent soon enough.
barber2
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 9:55amFidel and Raul thank you….
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 10:30amCan tell by your logo that you have a issue with religion….sort of a give-away…you aren’t being sneaky enough which is the sign of a successful progressive …
Report Post »teddrunk
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 5:25amThanks to Democrats, we’re becoming more like Cuba each passing hour. Worse economy, lower standard of living, useless socialized medicine that is nothing more than selective death, and less freedom. Why boycott Cuba, we are Cuba.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:33amLOL :) Truely… ObamaCare is KILLING us!
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 10:02ami think you must be sober !
Report Post »Concerned Green Beret
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 4:56amI guess I was wrong. I thought the American Catholic Bishops learned their lesson. Don’t play with commies. So while the country is losing religious freedom what do they do? They lie in bed with Castro. What a bunch of idiots!!!
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 5:22amThere is no such thing as a Cuban embargo. Cuba could import as many goods as it wants from China but simply does not have the money to do so.
What Cuba is looking for is a line of credit.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:05amIf the Dope was serious about improving religious liberty and human rights for the Cuban people, he would lead the Cuban leaders away from Communism and to Christ Jesus. Since the Catholics don’t practice Christianity, it’s a no win situation.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 1:08amA letter written by Senator Ted Kennedy to the Pope. It was hand delivered by President Obama Summer of 2009 when he visited the Vatican. Kennedy had hoped to repair his relationship with the Catholic Church as he lay dying of cancer at 77 years of age. In spite of his pro-abortion record throughout his tenure, he wrote about his record of helping the poor and keeping his faith. He asked for prayer as he admitted he was an imperfect human preparing for “the next passage of life.” Without any gospel remedy or biblical hope in the return letter, the Pope’s reply came, dictated, of course, through his assistant. The Pope thanked Kennedy for the letter, expressed concern for his illness, and then closed the brief letter with these words, “Commending you and the members of your family to the loving intervention of the Blessed Virgin Mary.”
How tragic this is. It is one thing to not hear the gospel of Jesus Christ while alive; it is another to not hear it when about to die.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:00amAnd tons of new alter boys who don’t have lawyers….. Party like it s 1999…… Wooooohoooooo !!!!!
Report Post »edmundburk
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:34amthe blaze is where all the anti-catholic neanderthals come to troll, by the way, poverty sucks is his own dope.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 3:15amParty like it’s 1999…?
Till you disagree with the gov. and get sent to jail…
If Obama get second term we could look forward to the same freedom here or the lack there of
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 10:01amPoverty Sucks : and so does your attitude. Sorry you are so filled with anger and judgement. You need to visit a Catholic soup kitchen . you need more balance.
Report Post »BarackStalin
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:58pmIt sure is nice to see all the anti-Catholic bigots crawling out from under their slime-covered rocks to visit the blaze today…
Report Post »Constantine Ivanov
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:35pm“U.S. Catholic bishops are pushing the State Department to lift the 50-year Cuban embargo”
“CONSERVATIVE JEWISH SEMINARY TO ALLOW GAYS TO BECOME RABBIS”
(http://www.theblaze.com/stories/conservative-jewish-seminary-will-to-allow-gays-lesbians-to-become-rabbis/)
“NEW BIBLE TRANSLATION REPLACES ‘CHRIST,‘ ’ANGEL’ & ‘APOSTLE’”
(http://www.theblaze.com/stories/new-bible-translation-replaces-christ-angel-apostle/)
Can somebody convince me that I am wrong thinking that clerics of both faiths – Christianity and Judaism – are acting, like in a plot, against all those moral pillars that were so dare to Conservative Americans so far …
Report Post »mr.goodvibe
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:41amYes sir you are not wrong, does that help?
Report Post »Constantine Ivanov
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 5:05pm@MR.GOODVIBE:
Report Post »I just wanted to incite a discussion regarding the evident rotting of our clergy
DeltaCharlieCain
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:33pmI used to believe in the idea of sanctioning and choking Cuba so that they would hopefully abandon their totalitarian policies, but it‘s pretty clear that this plan isn’t working (if anything, it’s only making it worse for the Cuban people). I think this will be good. As the author mentioned above, the libertarian idea of free trade ending authoritarian governments seems to be at play here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyyCTKosPOA
Report Post »Constantine Ivanov
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:51pmI remember well that when the starving USSR was receiving American food cans (during and after the WWII), even those individuals who were lucky enough to get one or two, still hated Americans…just for being so much richer that Russians.
Report Post »It’s a very common psychological disturbance in Communist countries: Communist ideology teaches to hate the rich, just like Robin Hood (rob-in-hood, as I call him), while making common people not an iota richer.
So, I don’t think Cubans after 54 years of Commies, are different.
And the aid won’t be distributed evenly, as American want.
johndobee
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:22pmWhy is Bishop Jenky being ignore by Glenn Beck and The Blaze?? He’s doing EXACTLY what Glenn hoped clerics would do, and it’s being ignored?? REALLY???
Report Post »http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-peoria-bishop-obama-20120420,0,7310177.story
He needs our support!
soybomb315
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:42pmsweet – another example of how ron paul is proven right in the end
for a long time, ron paul has been saying our cuban policy is counterproductive AND unjust. glad the catholic church is on board. lets export some freedom to cuba….what little freedom we have left anyways
Report Post »Unc68
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:19pm“However, this would be in keeping with the Catholic Bishops’ generally liberal turn in recent years” Wow, what a Glenn Beck style slant there. First the story points out that Ron Paul is right, as you contend, or at least gives a nod to the idea that economic freedom leads to political freedom (oddly you can see Obama attempting the reverse in this nation), but then the strory writer at the end makes it all about the pro-commie Catholics.
Report Post »I want the embargo lifted for selfish reasons, I want to get my Cuban cigars without having to go to another country.
3monkeysmomma
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:40pmI am as conservative as they come and I agree…lift the embargo and show the cuban people how AWESOME capitalism is…oh…we don’t practice that anymore?…..oops, my bad!
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:52pmThe Catholic church is thinking about all that revenue potential being lost , its hard to get wealth from communist because they don’t have anything. Now if you can open up trade then eventually Cuba would return to a vacation paradise once again. Not to mention Latinos take that no abortion thing seriously unlike most gringo Catholics. More Followers mean more money. Just like amnesty for illegals the Catholic church supports that too & why? Cause they can earn a lot more for the church up here than they can down there.
The leadership of the catholic church can do the math & they realize that caucasians aren’t reproducing fast enough to replace themselves. Asians don’t do the Catholic thing in large numbers, blacks are more likely to be Baptist or muslims & their numbers are stagnant anyway. So they realize that Latinos are the church’s future. Its demographics folks and as always MONEY.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:07amThanks for that rant of anti-Catholicism based on your biased opinion and little facts. You sound like a typical New Age Lefty : anti capitalism and anti-Catholic. Just mostly ” anti.” It’s that hate thing which makes you all stand out in any conversation…
Report Post »edmundburk
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:39amAnd how do you explain the growth of catholism in Africa and Asia?
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 8:37pm@ BARBER2
Better flush out your headgear dude I’m as far from a leftwing POS as I can get. Even right wingers say “damn that guy is a hardcore right winger”. That being said I’m also a realist #1 I’m not anti-capitalist I’m a small business owner ,#2 I’m not anti-Catholic ,my wife is Catholic, Not to mention I went to a Catholic School in my youth and have fond memories of that time. Again I’m a realist ,the Catholic church needs followers and yes money to keep its doors open and us “white folk” aren’t growing in population and are getting less not more religious( thanks to the progressive socialist) .So now do you understand where I was coming from or do you think I’m still a brain dead lib ?
@EDMUND
Report Post »I was kind of in western hemisphere mode (Cuba)
Popp40
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:28pmSo the Catholic Bishops are calling for an end to the embargo to COMMUNIST Cuba. Do they not know that in a Communist country the goal is to replace religion with government. The government is the religion, so basically if Communism takes over then these Catholic Bishops will be replaced. Have these Bishops thought about this?
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:45pmduring the cold war, the goal was to break down barriers and export our ideas of freedom to the oppressed people of communist countries. So here we stand with an opportunity to do the same for cuba – and we have thumbed our noses at them for 30 years….hardly sounds rational or christian of us
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:25pm“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
“After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.”
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:18amPOPP; I agree with you. All of these distractive comments about “ showing Christians love ” to the Communists governments are either by naive or by Trolls. You can’t show Christian love to a Communist government ( the people do not rule in those systems ) because they detest religions and will only “ use ” them for their best benefit. That is what is troublesome about dealing with the Far Left. They hate God and religions. The Far Left are best described as those that Christ/ apostles said were the ones that you A.) tried to convert and then B.) dusted off your shoes and hit the road rather than wasting time trying to convert those who weren’t listening. Sounds like a lot of those “ not listening ” types are members of our present Far Lefties. And the Trolls that we see playing the Alinsky baloney here …
Report Post »Brasil2520
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:27pmFreudian slip – Oops when I first saw the story it looked like – CATHOLIC BISHOPS CALL FOR END TO CUBAN’S, I was wrong so Miami will stay “North Havana” lucky us
Happy Birthday Adolf
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:12pmWhat???? And Mr Benedict (sorry I don’t know the proper title – no disrespect to the Pope) you have been doing so well in stemming the communist tide. I will reserve “judgement” and accept (though not a Catholic) that you know what you are doing – though I disagree – I can’t seem to get past the “starve the beast” mentality hopeful that the populace will rise up… Since the comments are coming from the bishops – perhaps they are speaking without Pontifical authorization? I am so confused
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:20pm“A nation of freemen who know how to prize liberty and who have arms in their hands, cannot be subdued”. – Theodore Sedgwick
Report Post »vox_populi
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:32pmWhat would make you think “starve the beast” would work when it hasn’t worked for the last 40 years? It gives Castro the ultimate go-ahead to blame America for Cuba’s woes for the same time period.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:09pmVox : who cares what Castro says ? Blame America ? Gee that sounds like our present Far lefties . Who cares about the dysfunctional ” blamers ? ” Many envy those who have more . Look at Obama and his “ redistribution” and anti-banks, anti-rich rhetoric . Based on hate and envy. Rome wasn’t built in a day and Communism/ envy / hate won’t be destroyed in one day either.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:02am@ Vox…oh I don’t know…it took way more than 50 years (approx 75 years from 1917 ’til around 1989) to “starve the beast” of the Soviet Union…. I think we can wait just a bit longer. But then I suppose you think that didn’t really happen ?
Report Post »jungle J
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:11pmcatholics have down more damage to America than the communists.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:29pmNot the real Catholics, just the pretend ones. It is pretty much the same within all denominations – the true believers (practicers) vs those who just claim the title (in name only) Same with the Jews…the observant Jews are not the trouble, as are neither the observant, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Pentacostals…..the troubel comes form those of any faith who claim to “know” better than God (that would be the god of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Jesus)
In the end times there will be (are) many false prophets…we are inundated with them – even within the walls of our churches.
Those who know the Truth better wise up, buck up, study up and stand up
If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.”
(2 Chron. 7:14)
Don’t be afraid of them. Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your families, your sons and your daughters, your wives and your homes.” Nehemiah 4:14b
LORD, there is no one like you to help the powerless against the mighty. Help us, O LORD our God, for we rely on you, and in your name we have come against this vast army. O LORD, you are our God; do not let man prevail against you.” 2 Chron. 14:11
Report Post »johndobee
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:25pmI bet there’s alot of Catholics who would disagree, or at least make you change your tune.
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:35pmOn May 6th, 1816, John Adams wrote to Thomas Jefferson stating, “I do not like the late Resurrection of the Jesuits. They have a General, now in Russia, in correspondence with Jesuits in the U.S. who are more numerous than everybody knows. Shall We not have Swarms of them here? In as many shapes and disguises as ever…. In the shape of printers, Editors, Writers, School masters, etc. If ever any Congregation of men could merit, eternal Perdition on Earth and in Hell… it is this Company of Loyola.” (The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Vol. XV, 1905, p. 17). On August 1st Jefferson replied: “I dislike, with you, their restoration, because it marks a retrograde step from light towards darkness.” (The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Vol. XV, 1905, p. 58; The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Vol. VII, 1857, p. 27; Adams-Jefferson Letters, Vol. 2, p. 474; Secret History, E. Paris, p. 75).
Political and Religious Foundations of The United States of America, http://www.angelfire.com/la2/prophet1/america.html
Report Post »3monkeysmomma
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:44pmThe Roman Catholic Church has been thoroughly infiltrated by leftists….trust me on this one…
Report Post »I have a front row seat. :(
kaydeebeau
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:56pm@ Colt…ok…..so… your piont is what? Are you trying to paint Jefferson as an anti-papist? And this is somehow relevant how?
Report Post »colt1860
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:16am@kaydeebeau I was replying to the original poster, not to you. My post and referenced link is VERY relevant to his comment. It speaks about the negative influence the Jesuits (not Catholics in general) have had in our nation. I posted no personal commentary or opinion. I only posted a quote and a link. The linked article is there for anyone to view. It’s a very interesting and informative article.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:07am@ Colt – Sorry, didn’t mean to come across as perceived. It is not always easy to follow everything in a thread. I really didn’t understand what you were trying to say – thanks for the clarification
Report Post »edmundburk
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:43amno, uninformed,lemming like, progrssive retards have done more to damage the country!
Report Post »FreedomWitness
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:09pmThe bishops are NOT surrendering to socialism, THEY ARE SOCIALISTS! (and homosexuals). They are closer to LIBERATION THEOLOGY than to Catholicism. The Catholic church has been destroyed from the inside.We should lift the embargo on Cuba when CUBA IS FREE!!
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:02pmAgree with some of your points but please can the “ homosexual ” business. That nasty smear and the “all priests are pedophiles ” is so overdone and unfair. ( the same garbage the Far Left New York Times run constantly ) The way Big Brother Obama is heading this country, you just might be happy to have Big God on your side trying to protect your individual dignity and rights over an authoritarian / oppressive Big Brother styled government.
Report Post »johndobee
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:24pmRead this ones stand! You are dead wrong.
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vox_populi
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:09pmThe embargo has done nothing to help the situation in Cuba, and only made the lives of everyday citizens significantly worse. I don’t this is a liberal or conservative call by the Catholic Church; I think it was just an intelligent one.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:03pmMan does not live by bread alone. Keep the embargo until the Communist Big Brother government is gone.
Report Post »soybomb315
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 10:52pm@barber
Report Post »you would think 50 years of history is enough to show you how wrong you are. if you want communism to collapse, then the people of cuba must be SHOWN that freedom and trade can increase their living standards. Since when do we not trade with communist countries anyways? Venezuela is just as communist and we import a ton of their oil.
barber2
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:55pmSoy: You forget that “ the people of Cuba ” have NO say in what their government does Which is exactly what is wrong with Communists/ dictatorial governments where the power to make decisions lies only in Big Daddy. American can not reach the “ people” of Cuba because their government is in the way and in control. THAT is the problem.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 2:16am@ Vox…it took way more than 50 years (approx 75 years from 1917 ’til around 1989) to “starve the beast” of the Soviet Union…. I think we can wait just a bit longer. But then I suppose you think that didn’t really happen ?
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 9:05pmThe Bishops are… Surrendering… to Socialism… as if the American System is dead and gone!
Report Post »johndobee
Posted on April 20, 2012 at 11:27pmhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-peoria-bishop-obama-20120420,0,7310177.story Not all of them! There’s a signifigant number who are ready for the fight.
Report Post »DV
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 12:24pmIt is dead and gone. I mean … Obama is president isn’t he?
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on April 21, 2012 at 3:56pm@DV
Report Post »Is he… the Presider over the Mangement of the Republic… or is his Executive Orders that of a WilsonianAdministrator/Dictator?