Catholic Group to Leave Vanderbilt Campus After Refusing to Comply With Non-Discrimination Policy
- Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:15am by
Billy Hallowell
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The ruckus over Vanderbilt University’s non-discrimination policy and regulations that require campus Christian groups (among others) to allow non-believers to serve in leadership roles continues. This week, Vanderbilt Catholic, one of the largest faith clubs at the school, has announced that it will not comply with the newly-enforced rules.
The Catholic group’s decision will mean that, as of the end of the year, it will no longer be an official university group. Instead, it will serve as an off-campus ministry. The Rev. John Sims Baker, a chaplain at Vanderbilt Catholic, said on Tuesday that the group has been forced to make the rash decision to leave campus. It is the first Vanderbilt group to make such an announcement.
The Tennessean has a recap of the events, as they have unfolded surrounding the debate:
The dispute between Vanderbilt and religious groups began after a Christian fraternity expelled a gay member. That led the school to review the constitutions of all registered student groups to make sure they comply with the nondiscrimination policy.
Last fall, four religious groups at Vanderbilt were put on provisional status for violating the policy. Over the past year, the school and the groups have been trying to work out a compromise.
The university published a written version of its policy as well as new guidelines for registered student groups in early March.
The main argument surrounds an “all-comers” policy, which means that all students should be allowed to be members of campus groups. Additionally, every individual, regardless of belief, should — according to Vanderbilt policy — have the opportunity to run for office.
While faith groups embrace the first portion of the rule, it is this second notion — that anyone can be a leader — that is drawing the ire of student-run organizations like Vanderbilt Catholic.
“The discriminatory non-discrimination policy at Vanderbilt University has forced our hand,” Baker said in a statement. “Our purpose has always been to share the Gospel and proudly to proclaim our Catholic faith. What other reason could there be for a Catholic organization at Vanderbilt?”
Screen shot from the Vanderbilt Catholic web site
On the club’s official web site an announcement reads, “Vanderbilt Catholic Will NOT Comply with University Mandate.” According to the statement, student clubs are being forced to re-register in April, as they will be asked to affirm their allegiance to the non-discrimination policy. Rather than complying as an official portion of campus life, the club will “reorganize.”
“We are going to open our doors wider in order to make a greater effort to reach out to all Vanderbilt students and all college students in Nashville,” the proclamation reads.
In an e-mailed statement to the Tennessean, Vice Chancellor Beth Fortune said the school is aware of the club’s decision. While she explained that she and other administrators “regret, but respect” their choice, Fortune believes that most clubs will have no problem complying with the non-discrimination policy.
Watch coverage of this subject on GBTV, below:
“We believe…that the vast majority of our more than 400 registered student organizations easily will comply with the policy,” Fortune wrote.
While Fortune is confident regarding this matter, others aren’t so sure that the rules make sense. First and foremost, the regulation would require Christian groups to allow non-Christians to lead Bible studies (pending elections). In turn, it would essentially force gay rights groups to embrace leaders who disagree fervently with gay marriage and other ideals. In the end, the leadership portion of the non-discrimination continues to be the most controversial.
(H/T: The Tennessean)
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Comments (148)
SpeckledPup
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:05pmanyone paying for their kid to go to Vanderbilt especially after this is obviously an obama-degenerate. too bad, it used to be a stellar institution before it was overrun by these obamacommunists.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:24pmThose Christians would be better off to go into the woods and take up their cross and follow Christ than to yield to these evil people. That University should be boycotted and no one who is a Christian should cross the threshold of that nasty place. Shake the dust off your feet and go somewhere God is in charge.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:25pmI doubt the atheists would allow Christians as their leaders.
Report Post »beth.purdy
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:39pmTell me about it. Vandy is my Alma Mater, and I‘m now embarrassed by the university’s actions.
Report Post »HerrBeck
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:28pmThis is another prime example of the complete lack of intelligence that this site is banking on.
You still have to be elected to office for each group. A known and devote Christian will not be elected as the representative for an Atheist group, with the reverse also being true. It is still a democratic process.
Why would you want to prevent that? Let the Christian attend the Atheist’s meetings, as long as he/she is behaving according to the rules of the group, more power to them. You won’t change their minds (again, proof is here with many of you Sheeple still thinking the President is a Muslim, Communist,Socialist and illegal immigrant) but there is nothing wrong with this.
Stop being controlled by the media like The Blaze (fanning the flames of fear!)
Wake up Sheeple.
Report Post »ThatCatGirl
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 4:57pm@HERRBECK — I suppose you have not considered the possibility that groups of ppl will use the ‘open to all’ policy to stack the voting block? Happens all the time.
And it‘s ’devout’.
Report Post »Inlightofthings
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 5:21pmHERRBECK: Your words…
“as long as he/she is behaving according to the rules of the group”
You don’t get it…behaving according the rules INCLUDES being a believer….you just don’t get it.
Report Post »Donut132
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 10:29amWell, I’ve yet to see anything that would say this President is a Christian…. esp not his church he went to for 20 years. I see him as being down right hostile towards religion. Also, he is a communist, nothing he has done has advanced the freedom of capitalism. He has taken over company’s and appointed C.E.O.’s Picked winners and losers based on how much they donated to him. His EPA is passing cap&trade system that could never pass congress, so he just by-passes their authority.
Report Post »Nathaniel Horn
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 1:58pm@HerrBeck
The plain and simple truth is that Obama IS a Communist, Muslim, Manchurian Candidate and a hater of Capitalism and America. It is you and those like you who are blind, ignorant and a furry, docile, easily brainwashed and led herd animal merely resembling a human being. That is not the PC reality, that is the true reality- for those with eyes to see. You leftie morons can turn away from and disbelieve the truth all you wish but history will bear out that he is all of these things and many more- like a compulsive but poor liar for another example.
Report Post »Nathaniel Horn
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 2:07pm@HerrBeck
The Great Pretender will be known in the final analysis, when all of the truth at last meets the full light of day, as the destroyer of America and the worst President –by far- in all of history.
This is the Progressive way; amalgamate all groups into a porridge of sameness. The real intent is to destroy groups with which the intolerant left disagrees with. I am proud that this Catholic and other groups see through the ruse and refuse to be compromised and destroyed. There may yet be a slim glimmer of hope for the backbone and survival of the US. But we need to not only resist the creeping evil in this country which you and those like you represent but actively take back our country.
The Tea Party was a FANTASTIC first step in that direction and we are all still here waiting, watching, ready and completely undiminished despite the fondest desire of the left wing media to will it so. The crash of the dollar which the Great Pretender and ‘Comrades’ are also engineering will facilitate this. All of the left’s machinations are going to backfire spectacularly in the near future. America is God’s country and in his own good time and unfathomably just and unpredictable ways he WILL take it back. Because God never lost it in the first place… He just has a very long leash. Prepare to be jerked back to reality one and all.
Report Post »citizenjames
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 2:23pmHow can a non-spiritual person be a spiritual leader? Don’t you understand what happened on the day of Pentecost? only believers received holy spirit-a great day of reformation in fellowship with God&Jesus
Report Post »Joseph the Gray
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 3:06pm@ HERRBECK Just because you have been brainwashed into believing you are intelligent and that the liberal left is correct in their philosophy, doesn’t mean that others believe as you proclaim. Most conservatives that I know don’t pretend to be intellectually superior to anyone else. Although many are, most of them really. Your problem son is that you don’t believe that you could be consummately wrong. Your mind won’t open that much. You live in fear and you don’t know why. It’s because you are not free mister. You know in your deepest parts that if you’re held accountable that you will be found guilty and will receive your just reward. That is too terrible to think of so you believe the lie. Obama is evil brother. Run screaming while you can. Unless it’s too late already.
Report Post »copakeman
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 3:43pmherrbeck, why would an atheist or a non-Christian want to join a Catholic group ? a few reasons, to disrupt, antagonize, cause trouble within the group, sue the group when he/she is asked to leave the group. there are NO GOOD REASONS for a non-believer to join a catholic group, unless he/she wants to convert and believe in Christ, which i doubt is on the minds of any of these disrupters. shame on vanderbuilt for trying to impose its (vanderbuilts) views on private on campus groups.
herrbeck why are you even reading and commenting here ? you loser, nazi, communist, muslim, atheist and more insults, but i am wasting enough of my time repling to your trash comment.
Report Post »lillith70
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 4:09pmAny Republican donating to this kind of tyranny and non-freedom of association has strange goals or is unaware of ramifications. Time to stand for something. Hooray for the Catholics who kept the Bible for us through the ages and against all odds in a imperfect world.
Report Post »mparmley
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 7:09pmAs horrible as it sounds, they need to pay a skin-head to join the black omnibus, a jew to join the islamic group and a very straight guy to join the lesbian group. That would have some of the other groups joining their cause.
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 9:23pmIf this is accurate, a large number of nongay people could join a gay organization or a large number of nonfeminists could join a feminist organization and vote the organizations out of existence?
Report Post »inblack
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 11:01pm@HERRBECK
Do you think anyone is listening to you? You make no sense and you’re not even a good troll.
It’s called Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Association.
Sheeple? No, these are good people standing up for their rights.
You and your total lack of intellect only convince those of us in the right how crazy it would be to let fools like you have your way.
There is only One that we follow as sheep and that is the One who has shown us endless love and forgiveness.
Report Post »richterscale777
Posted on April 3, 2012 at 12:43amAgreed. Though the fraternities should stay and fight in civil disobedience. We don’t do this right. Thus we are ineffective. We need to keep the pressure on. Leaving is not standing. The group should stay and ignore the policy, refuse to accept penalties. Let the University come to the point of unreasonable force.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:03pmThe funny thing about people who give up addictions, and often people mistake enjoying the pleasure they get from something as an addiction, but often when a person gives up pleasurable things, they become holier-than-thou, and they make a lot of mistakes.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:10pmThat‘s why there’s no one more annoying than a recovered smoker, with their personal mission to make people quit smoking, which is actually the only way they manage to keep not smoking is by a self righteous mission to make others stop. What’s the big deal folks? Jesus Christ wasn’t called a glutton and a drunk for no reason.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:25pmYou see, you live in an upside-down world ruled by greed and power. Because along came Mankind, and then along came alcohol, tobacco, and other pleasurable things. Then along came greed, power, and control, then came the automobile, and jobs, and more greed. Moreover, alcohol, tobacco, and pleasurable things didn’t collide with jobs and the automobile, but that automobiles collided with pleasurable things people find in life. Moreover, tobacco, and alcohol was here for a hell of a lot longer than the “Greed” based automobile.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:32pmBut people don’t really believe in “A Soul”, because if they did, then they would understand that some things get engraved on the soul, like a computer chip can be erased but still carry a signature. People took thousands of years of drinking alcohol and other pleasurable things, and they are trying to do away with it in just a 100 year span. It ain’t happening folks!
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:41pmAnd it even more interesting [ I would think] to Biblical scholars that when Hell gave up the dead starting at the time of the creation of the United States which lead the world population from 800 million to over 8 billion in just 200 years, that it was when Hell began giving up the dead that innovation really took off which collided with all the ancient [ engraved] ways of living. You all mostly consist of the walking dead.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:02pmSo the problem is ‘not’ that drunkards don’t fit into this modern greedy society, but that modern society doesn’t fit into drunkards, which actually makes drinkers drink more.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:18pmYou are so right. Why did you change your name from Eliasim?
Report Post »kabenninger
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 2:57pmWhat?? Who called Jesus a glutton and a drunk?
Report Post »RaptorEP
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 6:25pmAlong that line of thought, Christians has been the keepers of knowledge and tolerance since Rome, facing the gladiator and beasts in the arena they fought with love, at the fall of Rome it was the Christian priests who saved much from The Great Library of Alexandria, and tho corrupt kings pillaged the middle east with the crusades we turned back in the Reformation, and in the forming of this nation it was the the Christian values of “All men are Created equal with inalienable rights, of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness” true Christians don’t hate their fellow man, but show compassionate love not the perverted concept of “love” that is dominate in today’s pop-culture. The more the left white-out’s our Christian history the worst things get.
Report Post »Vernon Black
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:03pmI love steak and want to led the Vegan Club, so to enlighten those neanderthal knuckle dragging Vegans to the value of eating MEAT!
Report Post »geonj
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:02pmwith over 400 organizations, is there any reason to force the same rules on all of them. isn’t there enough diversity within 400 groups to accomodate everyone? otherwise, just combine them all into one megaa group where everyone is the same. apparently diversity means something totally differt to the left than it dos for the rest of us.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:07pmLiberals steal money to fund themselves.
They take $100 from students or more every year in college.
They do this thru a negative check off.
The school collects money for campus groups up front. Then a busy college student has to remember to get a refund if they don;t want to fund campus grpoups4 to 6 weeks later.
Liberals count on the fact that people will be busy & forget.
If a campus wants a positive check off instead of a negative check off, liberals claim it will be the end of the world.
Liberal groups politic fiercely for student government positions so they can defund campus groups that are not sufficiently liberal.
Get rid of all ‘official’ campus groups. Let people for whatever group meet off campus. many people will whine. Liberals will whine the loudest.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:51pmI like walkabouts idea. Just make all groups meet off campus. That takes care of any diversity issues the school would be responsible for.
Report Post »JGraham III
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 5:09pmAlexis de Tocqueville observed of the “american experiment” that there was something noble about people who desired inequality with freedom over those who sought equality in slavery. The reason institutions of “higher learning” try to shove everyone into the same box with the same rules is that a) they prefer equality in slavery for everyone but themselves of course, and 2) they are cowards and, 3) they are lazy intellectually. Ironic that it is colleges and universities that come up with such drivel and call it enlightenment. It takes courage to treat human beings as individuals as God does rather than making everyone the same with cookie-cutter rules. Vanderbilt‘s administration wouldn’t recognise Jesus Christ if he walked up to them on the street.
Report Post »Cheers for the Catholics at Vanderbilt; there will be more exiting the collapsing structure of “intellectual enlightenment” as the advancement of unsound thinking contines to flood the unversities of the country.
AFreeManInTexas
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:52amSince our current President, State Department and everyone else in this Administration thinks what is happening in the Middle East is a good thing and “that is what freedom looks like” we can only assume that they want such a government here, that would require all women to do as a man says, with no rights to schooling or the freedoms they have in the USA, Wake up people, tell your neighbors, tell your friends, tell strangers, this President HAS TO BE A ONE TERM President
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:50amLived in Nashville for a couple decades. Vandy used to be a great school.
I wonder what turned them into ****.
I wouldn’t let them wash my dog now.
Such a shame.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:50amYou all know that Glenn Beck is turning you all into just another scale on the dragon don’t you? Satan says “I will not comply.”
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:52amMeds. Seriously, if you’re not a just a paid troll, get meds…
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:55amTHX-1138,
Report Post »That’s alright, it wouldn’t be called “Conquering” if we all got in.
bikerr
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:31pm@timmy—Stalker.
Report Post »willbedone
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:32pmHorse Puckey!
Report Post »Intense66
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:44pmTHX 1138… He needs more than meds… I’m quite certain there is a padded room with his name on it, although the meds could help, if given in elephant dose quantities.
Way to go Vanderbilt Catholic!! I WILL NOT COMPLY with your socialist, marxist insanity!!
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:49pmOK. I’ve been reading your posts for awhile. They started out as very obscure and confusing spiritual references and I thought you may just be a spiritually confused person trying to say what you mean. Now the tone has changed they are out and out against Glenn. You are just another troll and I for one will not answer any more of your posts.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 3:02pmThe true South is joyful and loving and Christian, not racist and gun-crazy. The true South is beautiful and human, not like the sour apples of humanity on the Blaze.
Here is the true South, talented and humble and kind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJOIqmlI65Y
May this be the South that rises.
Report Post »bonniewheeler
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 3:42pmAlso God said I will not comply when he destoryed Sodom. To get answers and there is no better history book than the Old and New Testaments.
Report Post »UnreconstructedLibertarian
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 9:24pmBaikonur? Is that really you?
I’m personally and magnificiently astounded that any positive thing regarding the south has been typed by your fingers. I still somehow don’t believe you mean it. You’ve formerly wanted us all exterminated.
Its interesting that one of the founders of Vanderbilt, was David Campbell Kelly. Not only did Kelly assist in creating Vanderbilt, but also was instrumental in founding Fiske. None other than W.E.B. DuBois lauded Kelly as one of the “best friends of the *****”.
Kelly himself was a devout Minister. A good read would be this biography of Kelly.
http://www.amazon.com/Forrests-Fighting-Preacher-Campbell-Tennessee/dp/1609493834
Southerners of Kelly’s cut are the ones I admire and would want to glean example from. Should the “South rise again” – I would want to be on the side of man of his character – and hopefully entertained by persons as talented as Scruggs and Co.
Report Post »alwayshappy
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:47amMore power to them for standing up for the faith! You have my prayerful support!
Report Post »HKS
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:44amUniversities of all people claiming to be non-discriminatory in anything? Their teaching staffs are loaded with left wing radicals supported by communist unions spewing out their liberal garbage day in and day out. Everything they teach is liberal biased and to even think of making such a statement is an insult to the intelligence of the American people that have escaped the liberal brainwashing’s.
Report Post »afdbghq
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 7:55pmI have conservative friends whose children were discriminated against in college by the liberal/communist/socialist professors. Anytime the student did a project that put forth conservative points of view the student received poor to failing grades but when the rewrote the paper with a leftist point of view they received a very good grade. How is that for having a supposed diverse attitued. It sounds more like they are very close minded and will not tolerate any viewpoint except their own perverted ones.
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:38amThis is what happens when you put Dummo-Crats in charge. We must include everyone and not be discriminatory. This is ludicrous.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:43amEspecially since our New Marxist Democrat Party is comprised primarily of atheists. Can’t figure out how so many Catholic politicians can belong to a party which has gone so far Far Left.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:46amDummo- Crats , lmao, lol.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:47amPS, I will use ur lable it’s so true.
Report Post »NOMOBIGDRAMANOBAMA
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:36amI stand with the Catholic Students. They have done the right thing. The war against the Church goes on folks, just another venue. Does anyone else smell sulphur?
Report Post »Babci
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:33amCome on Catholics…stand up and rally behind these young people…you have become the new “Jews”.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:39am… except there are 14 million Jews worldwide, and Catholicism is far and away the largest denomination of Christianity, with over 1.15 BILLION Catholics worldwide.
To compare a campus club moving off-campus to a religious group that faced a government-sponsored genocide that killed off over a fourth of their people is… well… dishonest is the nicest term I could come up with.
Report Post »king1
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:40amProud to stand for my lord
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:43amOr they could go to the Mountain of Zion whereby they can comply instead of being stuck in the mud with everyone who says “I will not comply.”
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:32amGood for you! Stand up, CHRISTIANS. Stand now!
Remember today IS our day of prayer and fasting FOR AMERICA TO RETURN TO GOD, TO JESUS AND TO THE HOLY SPIRIT. Unless we do return and soon, we are done.
“Jesus loves me this I know, for the Bible tells me so. Little ones to Him belong. They are weak but He is strong. Yes, Jesus loves me. Yes, Jesus loves me. Yes, Jesus loves me. The Bible tells me so.”
Thank YOU LORD for loving us in spite of who we are and what we do or don’t do. Thank YOU for YOUR forgiveness and mercy. Because of YOU, LORD, we fight on. In JESUS’ precious and mighty name, amen.
Report Post »thegreatcarnac
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:32amVanderbilt is another liberal bastion in a conservative state. The universities in this country are taken hostage by hard core leftist and they must be rescued. The best way to rescue these colleges is to remove their capitol. Vote with your money. Do not allow your children to go to these liberal schools. Almost all colleges have their share of stupid leftist but some are more left than others. Send your kids the most conservative schools you can afford. Put these schools like Vanderbilt….out of business.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:31am“First and foremost, the regulation would require Christian groups to allow non-Christians to lead Bible studies (pending elections).”
… if these groups think that non-Christians will win an election in a Christian group, then I daresay the club in question has some pretty deep issues to address!
Report Post »COFemale
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:41amWhat if the non-Christian passed themselves off as a Christian to get elected and then changed course? Why would a non-Christian join a Christian group in the first place other than to create havoc?
I know this is difficult for you Locked, but use your brain for once.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:57am@Cofemale
“What if the non-Christian passed themselves off as a Christian to get elected and then changed course? ”
Then the group would file a complaint with the university club system accusing the members or purposely undermining the club. That’s pretty standard procedure.
“Why would a non-Christian join a Christian group in the first place other than to create havoc?”
I can think of several. As you said, use your brain for once; can you not think of someone joining a Christian club while not being a Christian? Say… friends being involved? Community service? As part of a report? To (gasp!) actually learn about Christianity? None of those are as far-fetched as your belief that these clubs will suddenly be swarmed by non-Christians looking to create havoc.
Report Post »VectorRector
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:04pmOr what if the organization gets sued for lack of diversity or some other such thing if they don’t allow non-Christians to lead? I think that’s what the group is trying to avoid.
Report Post »Skippy Toes
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:31amNext? Follow the money. If enough clubs leave, the university loses money. It will change its policies. Look what happened to Rush’s advertisers who left. They have suffered greatly.We have the power. WE HAVE THE POWER FOLKS.
Report Post »USACommoner
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:53amD@mned skippy, Skippy! Companies don’t advertise just to help the person they advertise with, they do it to boost their own sales! When a company pulls its ads, they lose money. How stupid is that? The left isn’t the only ones who can play this silly game, folks. We DO have this same power. Time to stand up and be counted instead of continuing to be pushed around by the scrawny kids.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:29amYou know why Satan was thrown out of Heaven? Because he said to the Lord, “I will not comply.” There are churches that branched off the Catholic church, because they said “I will not comply.” Are we seeing a trend here? Then the Mormons looked at those churches, and said “I will not comply.” Are we seeing a trend yet? Now a lot of people are looking at their things, and saying to big government “I will not comply.” People are more in love with America than they are their own soul, and they will not see it because just as they pour their heart into a business or something, refusing to let it go, they look at a nation the same way. They are blinded by their own satanic tendencies.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:35amBecause surely if men can not comply to the trivial demands of men, then surely they will not comply to the demands of the Lord.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:37amIt’s a much more narrow path to Heaven than you think it is.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:40amYes. I see a trend here : another nonsensical comment by JustTim…our old mocker of religions, ELISIUM , resurrected , unfortunately, as JUSTTIM .
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:45ambarber2,
Report Post »You know you are a scale on the dragon don’t you? That‘s why you can’t comply to big government, and you will get drawn up with the dragon, and become stuck in the mud.
deeberj
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:44pmI do not have to comply with the “trivial” demands of men if it goes against the weighty demands of my God. You say some very unchristian things sometimes. More like new age eastern crap.
Report Post »mycomet123
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:29am“The regulations would require Christian groups to allow non-Christians to lead Bible study.” My first question is WHY would non-Christians WANT TO lead Bible study for any other reasons that DESTROYING THE TRUTH!
Report Post »barber2
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:37amYes. Just to annoy and heckle. The way some of the radicals like to comment their nonsense and insults here. To annoy. To mock. To ridicule . To pull an “Alinsky ! “
Report Post »barber2
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 3:27pmYes. Just like JUSTTIM and his old self, ELIASIUM. Just an elitist atheist getting his kicks out of Mocking religion – one comment at a time. …after time…after time…after time…
Report Post »Watcher1952
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:28amI stand with the group…..hard decision to make ….why would anyone want to be in a leadership role in this club unless you believed. The only reason would be to cause distress to the majority of the group……We need people and groups to stand up like this and say No…..I commend you all
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:25amstupid. these commie colleges need to be shut down. they are turning out losers into the work force who cant even get low level management positions at starbucks or mcdonalds. enough already any college getting government funding either state or local needs to have their entire staff fired and rehired if they interview and are the best for the job. I am tired of the commies turning perfectly capable students into unemployable liberal activists.
Report Post »mycomet123
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:34amThanks for the laugh!
Report Post »who_is_john_galt_in_RI
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:25amso much for our constitutional right of freedom of assembly. if the school is receiving any federal or state funds it should be pulled on that basis.
Report Post »VectorRector
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:08pmHaving worked at Vandy (still living about 5 miles away), I know our team was responsible for bringing in over $22 million in NIH funding alone. And that was 10 years ago. I heard their federal grant funding these days is in the top 20 universities nationwide recently.
Report Post »theninthplanet
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:24amGood for them.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:24amHarvard, Duke, Vanderbilt… indoctrination schools, not education schools.
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:44amYup , now that I can agree with.
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:23amI thought this school had some kind of academic reputation. It is obviously run by morons. If your kid is there, transfer. If your kid is thinking of going, don’t. If you are an alumni, stop donating.
Vanderbilt has clearly become an inferior institution.
Report Post »VectorRector
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:09pmHave you met some of their graduates? Al Gore is one …
Report Post »wireline
Posted on March 31, 2012 at 6:43pmTo VectorRector, not the famous man who invented the internet?
or who said man made/caused global warming?
wow he really is a famous graduate from Vandy
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:20amThere teaching pure insanit @ that school. They really need 2 go else where.
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