Cheney Calls Obama an ‘Unmitigated Disaster’ in Post-Transplant Speech
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Former Vice President Dick Cheney called President Barack Obama an "unmitigated disaster" in his first post-heart transplant appearance Saturday, April 14, 2012. (AP Photo/Wyoming Tribune Eagle, Miranda Grubbs
Less than a month after receiving a heart transplant, former Vice President Dick Cheney minced no words in his assessment of President Barack Obama: He’s been an “unmitigated disaster.”
“I can’t think of a time when I felt it was more important for us to beat an incumbent president,” Cheney said of the November election. “[Obama] has been an unmitigated disaster for the country.”
According to the Associated Press, Cheney walked on stage without assistance at the Wyoming Republican Party’s state convention for a speech that lasted more than an hour. His first public appearance since the surgery, he didn’t appear to tire and looked markedly healthier than before the transplant, the AP reported.
Cheney said it would be a “huge disappointment” to give Obama another four years in the White House, and that the Republican Party needs to band behind Mitt Romney, whom Cheney called the “likely nominee” and said would do a “whale of a job.”
“I think it’s very important that we get together and gather together and gather behind our likely nominee,” Cheney said. “It’s Mitt Romney, I’ve known him for a long time, I’ve got a lot of confidence in him.”
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Comments (242)
SpankDaMonkey
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:51am.
Report Post »Dems worst nightmare “IT”S ALIVE, IT“S ALIVE”………
pinkruby
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:02pmCheney is right Obama is a unmitigated disaster for this country. It is now time to gather around Romney and make sure he wins in 2012. To bring back America !!!!!
Report Post »Turtleman
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:50amCheney is a true patriot. He gave decades of his life to the public service and to our country. The more the left disparages him, the more I know he did a great job.
Report Post »Wasn’t amazing how the “kind and compassionate” members or the progressive (communist) left were wishing he had died and said that he stole the heart from a more deserving citizen.
noland
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:07amYou are soooo right Turtle, God Bless Mr Cheney always.
Report Post »DonaldH
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 12:05pmWell, I like Cheney BUT my father had a massive heart attack just before his 72nd birthday and I was told he was NOT a candidate for a heart transplant because of his age— I’m not holding it against Cheney though, because I know Bill Clinton, George Bush, Maxine Waters, or even a turd like Charlie Rangle would have gotten a heart before my father would have… Heck, even someone like Nancy Reagan would be taken care of before someone like my father…
Report Post »Robert999
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 2:23pmIt’s the dollars that determine who gets the transplants.
Report Post »Realist4U
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 2:45pmProgressives have no idea what defines a “man.“ Look at their leader running off having ”homosexual affairs of the heart.“ Michelle is milking the ”Flotus” for all it’s worth, but, she knows that is not a “man” in the WH. She just decided to trade off any real relationship in trade of material things. She could care less about Valerie playing “WH Mama, or Reggie taking care of her man’s needs. As long as she has unlimited cash flow, she could care less about how much of a “man” Barry is.
Report Post »Fishmanone
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 5:33amAmen turtleman!!!
Report Post »TheePolitinator
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 1:52pmThis assumption of his excellence is based on mainstream trash. You need to further your research and see just who and what he is.
Report Post »doomytram
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:49amHurricane Oblamer is the disaster of all disasters, he is the disastrous Oblamer. Oblamer is a natural born disaster. Brought to you by the Zero bar. (Ozero). He has spent 6 trillion more than we take in, in three years.
Report Post »TAXEVERYONE
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:49amGo back under your rock.
Report Post »grimmy
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:06am@taxeveryone aka encinom.
“Go back under your rock”,he cant encinom,you already occupy that space, moron.
Drago.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:22amAll of our Troll escapees from the New York Times hate Cheney, Beck, the military and religion ! Brings them out of the woodwork. They have been hiding under Ron Paul / Divide the Dumb Conservatives banner, but will all be outed now that he is out of the race . They are ever so “ clever” but also transparent . And, “yes we can, ” spot them by their juvenile, nasty comments. Apparently when you live in mom’s basement, you aren’t taught many manners.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 12:13pmLOL. That’s a positve “LOL”. No further comment needed.
Report Post »Dave.the.Blaze
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:04pmDude, if you think men like Dick Cheney follow the path of Jesus, you are mistaken. Either you know nothing of Jesus’s teaching, or you just love Cheney. You can’t entertain both. Sorry.
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:48amOne of the reason this country is in this much trouble, is do to the fact people
ran from the Bush/Cheney Administration, into the arms of the Obama/ Biden Administration.
And now we are in HUGE trouble because we are going to run “from” Obama/Biden
into the arms of Romney/? Administration.. No Great choice.
I would say to Cheney ..
Your administration contributed to this tragedy ,that we as nation are experiencing
The establishment from “both” sides know exactly what their doing..
Both sides have been part of the problem and we are going to see in the years to come
how much trouble “WE” the citizens of the U.S. are going to be in.
Romney has NOT said one word about NOT having as many CZARS..
And ALL the new power acts the last 2 administrations have implemented.
What going to do.?
UNDO WHAT..OBAMACARE..!! THAT’S IT ..???
No…!
We keep getting fed by the MSM to keep our focus on our Faith..Abortion.. And Ethnicity.
We know all the sayings …
“Absolute power corrupts absolutely” …
“The more LAWS a nation has , the more the corruption” …
These two phrases are the going to be the words that etched on The U.S. Tombstone… !
Just one of the Parties is going to use be a little smoother ,in their
Implementation of their “new utopia”.
Now go on and tell me where I’m wrong…!
Report Post »grimmy
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:05am@Sawbuck.
Report Post »I have to agree with you on all but one point.”The more laws a nation has,the more corruption”,since we are a nation of laws,not men,i would say,“ the more regulations a nation has”.But thats just my 2 cents,since its regulations from the likes of the EPA, that have all but destroyed this countrys ability manufacture or produce anything here.
RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:14amI am not all that fond of Romney myself. But, I would consider my wife’s dog to do a better job than 0bama has. My battle cry this year has been “ANYBODY BUT 0BAMA! And, I will stick with that. At least Romney was a business man and cannot be as absolutely stupid as 0bama has been, or at least will not try to destroy the country as 0bama has. My hope is that he will do what he can to start drilling for oil again, but I do expect the left loons to go judge shopping in those areas to do everything they can to shut drilling down. He will have to take a tactical view of those areas first. He and a new congress needs to reel in agencies like the EPA and there needs to be a law that allows only congress to make the rules and laws that the EPA can enforce. No more rogue agencies running wild. Well, we can hope and pray this time.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:23amWith all due respect, you do not know what the real Obama and crew are all about & plan to do if re-elected. Romney – or anyone else — would at least be patriotic & probably a good job re the economy, jobs — he get rid of all the Communist/Marxist traitors that are now in all of our Depts. & hopefully we’ll have the Senate & House to help to push Consv. issues. Check out:
http://www.commieblaster.com
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:49amI’m not saying.. I’m Not pulling the lever for Romney.
Report Post »What I’m saying is ..“we don’t have a choice.”
We have to elect Romney ..NO CHOICE.
But if he chooses to ..GO ROUGE….. In a bad sense .
And since I believe my Bible ..There is Good chance of this happening
You Know ..“One world Government”
It doesn’t look good.
noland
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 12:06pmDon”t forget the mass-media HELPED bring in this Nightmare, they Pounded & Pounded sooo much HATE on GW and never reminded The People who was in control of House and Senate, the cindy shewolfs and all other left-wing nut got more time on media and how awful Pres Bush was and people believed them and they hated him because they thought it was truth just like they obama because they think thier hearing the TRUTH! I BLAME OUR MEDIA For helping in America”s Destruction, for not getting out the the real truth in IN the White House weather it be Dems or Reps. They want only THIER Party too win at ALL cost.
Report Post »cassandra
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:48amGod Bless you Cheney, get well soon so you can help us out of this communist mess obama helped create
Report Post »mercenary4freedom
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 2:35pmAll the media is concerned about is their advertising revenue. They are contributing to a “one world government” beacause they & the conglomerates that own them see “one world revenues” 10 fold.
We need someone with some nads to step in & eliminate any bureaucracy that prevents this nation from operating @ an efficient fiscal normalcy. Eliminate any department that kills jobs creation by their absurd regulatory guidelines. Any department that collaorates with the UN’ green facism & Maurice Strong‘s ’sustainable development’. The earth is just fine here in the US & if they want to save the planet and tax the air that we breathe, let them do it in the EU or wherever else those citizens might be that gullible, but get the hell out of the US.
obama doesn‘t care if he’s 3T over budget because he doesn’t plan on paying it back or if he is, he’s planning to crash the dollar and send us all to the poor house. Why is it that he‘s building up this ’police state’? Not for the hell of it!
Romney needs to grow a set. Hopefully whoever he chooses as VP will be a strong tenacious leader and influence him into standing tall not forgeting what made this nation the greatest & most prosperous in world history. We should not stand for any ‘Bilderburg Group’ choosing a VP mate!
Report Post »Jerry Frey
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:41amGeorge Bush was the WORST president in our history. He got suckered into Iraq. It was going to be a “cakewalk.”
http://napoleonlive.info/what-i-think/dick-cheney-doinks-history/
Report Post »amsedan43
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:02amWill not argue with someone that knows history?
Report Post »majasdad
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:06am@JERRY FREY
Exactly.
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:25am@JERRY FREY
Report Post »I guess Obama disagrees with you. !!! Since he took office .
He has expanded our presents in the Middle east.
So Obama….Must be REAL stupid…
Your just not all that bright… to notice..!
Inlightofthings
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 12:18pmJerry Frey:
Just for kicks, describe in detail what the world would be like without the Iraq scenario. Take a good educated shot at it and you only get one chance. Consider the following:
Report Post »1. We ignored many chances to address Bin Laden
2. Terrorism was nothing NEW to the US. Just look at the incidences starting with 911 and go back.
3. The African peninsula is and has been a groundswell of terrorists for many years.
4. Consider the role of Arafat, Hamas etc.
5. Consider the role of Qadaffi
6. Consider the relationship between Iran, Russia and N. Korea
7. Jihad is a reality because extremists say it is…and I believe them.
So just what would our world look like today if say….Kerry actually won? I have no interest in rhetoric or B.aloney S.andwiches. Take a shot for me. “I don’t know” is epic fail on your part.
thx.
DonaldH
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 12:43pmThis has grown so old and tired– The message of Saddam and Iraq having WMD‘s wasn’t just sold to us by the “Neo-Cons” it was the message brought to us by all– Sen. Hillary Clinton AND her husband Bill both said Saddam had WMD’s as did Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, John D. Rockefeller and many, many others. Now Byrd I know didn’t support and “Resolution to use Milt. Force against Iraq” and I‘m sure Ted didn’t either but they both said Saddam had WMD’s– Byrd‘s actual quote was ’We know Saddam has WMD’s, we‘ve always known he’s had them, so what’s the rush to go to war” Ted said about the samething.. And anyone who watched Hans Blix before the UN would also know his final report implied they still had WMD’s as he said Saddam was not giving them full access to EVERYTHING… Anyone who says ONLY the NEO-CONS said Irag had WMD’s is a liar,, or stupid or a BS artist– I watched Blix’s last report to the UN live— I didn’t wait for MSNBC or CNN or FNC to edit it to fit their agenda,, I watched Hans Blix on live TV tell the UN Saddam was still hiding something…
Report Post »hypnos
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 1:40pmHum,let‘s don’t look the freak show that‘s in office now let’s blame Bush. Right Jerry. What you lack in originality you make up for in stupidity.
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 7:58pmIf you just ignore amateur trolls like majasdad and jerry frey, they’ll go away. They‘re part of Obama’s soft, lilly white army. They’ll get bored and go hang out with their gal pals, maybe do some shopping.
Report Post »majasdad
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 8:19pm@DISENLIGHTENED
Why would I go away? Reading the comments here are my best source of entertainment ever, scary though they may be. It‘s like being in the midst of an an enormous pack of cloned Pavlov’s dogs…
“Squirrel!”
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 9:25pmObama’s soft, lilly white army of boys with gal pals.
Report Post »welovetheUSA
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:40amAbsolutely………Obama is the most dangerous man on earth at this time……..vote…..your childrens future is in danger.
Report Post »BetterInformed
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:39amSpoken from the heart !
Report Post »sbenard
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:36amI’m no friend of Dick Cheney, but he’s absolutely right on this one! He recognizes the true threat to freedom that the Dictator of Debt represents!
Report Post »leonardo44
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:36amCheney rocks
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:35amI’ve always liked and respected this man! I never bought into the BS the Left was spewing about him. The more the Left did, the more I knew he was doing a good job at foiling their progressive plans. If we are going to have a country fit to live in we need more daring, audacious men like Cheney to step forward and be counted. Sadly though, most men in this country are ***** whipped metrosexuals who could give on wit for God and Country.
Report Post »doglady
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:30amGod Bless you Mr. Cheney and we will vote for Mitt R omney in droves. Here’s to your continued health.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:43amAmen.
Romney has my vote (assuming he wins the primary)
Report Post »TROONORTH
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:29amEvery now and then someone comes along who commands attention and speaks with authority, Mr Cheney is one of those rare men. He, without doubt, would have made a fine President and displays the Grit that is so badly needed in that office now. Let’s hope that he is around for a long time to act as the voice of freedom behind the throne.
Report Post »Eraldo NY Tea Party
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:28amblessed be the lord Jesus
I admire him.
Be prepare be save
God bless you all
Report Post »Grawpy
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:18amRight on Mr. C.!
What do you think of Biden (like I need to ask)!
Report Post »right-wing-waco
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:23amRemember, if obamama wins, he will OWN the Supreme Court. That should scare you to death.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:35amRIGHT-WING-WACO Exactly,if the Marxist POS is re-installed he‘ll stack the court with the most radical leftists we’ve ever had the misfortune of producing.He’s already installed two radicals which is bad enough,we don’t need any more inflicted on our republic.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:47amRIGHT-WING-WACO, Unless he has one of the more or less conservative justices assassinated I think that we will still stand a chance there. It’s a couple of the lefties that want to retire and are elderly. Even Justice Kennedy stated that wouldn’t retire until 0bama was out of office a couple of years ago.
Report Post »dogday
Posted on April 16, 2012 at 1:02pmI’m sure he thinks Biden is an intelligent, capable vice-president, who is one heartbeat away from the presidency! EEEKKKK!! I just scared myself–and sorry VP Cheney, I was just kidding.
Report Post »Wakeup Maggie
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:09amYou got that right Mr. Cheney…here’s to your health!
Report Post »papatom48
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:08amSo good to see him up and around and looking so well. He is a national treasure. And, of course, he is spot on about the current president. Lets make sure the republicans media strategy is sufficient to deal with the lies and slime sure to descend upon us in the coming months. That means go on the offensive. Do not let the media sycophants frame the debate. Stick up for yourselves and your beliefs. Do not think for a millisecond that anyone in the obama media likes you or will treat you or your words fairly.
Report Post »crusaderx9
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:04amI like it, VP Cheney just wrote the obama bumper sticker – obama’s marxist face with “UNMITIGATED DISASTER” next to it.
Report Post »whywonder
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:03amHe was called 5 times to serve his country and refused. How many of you answered that call? He is a coward. The sons of the rich never fight our wars its always the poor…like my dad kia in 68.
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 7:53pmHe’s always had a bad heart. What‘s Barry’s excuse? He’s was smoking pot and snorting coke during Desert Storm.
Report Post »whywonder
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 9:59amGot heart? Answer…no
Report Post »LetsBeSmartAboutThis
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 9:57amYou are correct, Mr. Cheney. November and NoBama can’t get here fast enough!
Report Post »ADNIL
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:30amDon’t wish your summer away. I may be our last.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 2:25pmAD: You must be referring to our summer “ surprise ” ( it won’t be ) when our Marxists Democrats unleash the Anarchists who make up the core of the Occupiers . As if, we are all too dumb to figure this one out…Duh…
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 9:55amAffirmative action is wonderful isn’t it? It inflicted an idiot on us and of course Cheney is correct.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:02amDon’t forget the media who created this bit of fiction from what was basically a community agitator who voted “ present” during his brief Senate experience. Would love to know who was his ghost writer ! Finding the answer to that would probably be as difficult as finding Obama’s hidden school records ! Smoke and Mirrors.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 9:54amFrom one unmitigated disaster to another…….
Report Post »papatom48
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:01amwhat the hell does that mean?
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:22amOf course you would say that DISS.
Ron Paul and most of his anti-war/anti-Military/Code-Pink aligning neo-lib foreign policy progressives like you DISS obviously have no love for Cheney or anyone who was in the Bush administration (just warrrrmongerrrrs and neo-cons right?). Ron Paul has ranted about Cheney for years using the old tired leftist talking points of the Dem Party. The Dem party is where Paul he truly belongs. Ron Paul’s an embarrassment to our Party and country… and has been for years.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:23amBush was a disaster too…….. so bad he gave Obama ( a two bit rookie) a ticket to the white house. And I don’t see North East Mitt as much better. This wuss wont generate any support other than a anti Obama vote & good luck winning with that. Be honest, does Mitt excite anyone? If so, why?
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:37amBush was not a disaster! Gas was down, unemployment at record lows, production up, housing growth up, pride in ones country up, he fought two wars simultaneously….most of the reason you say he was a disaster is because the media have brainwashed most people in this country to believe that lie without providing any proof other than Bush mashing his words in delivery. Big Whoop!
Report Post »TAXEVERYONE
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:42amWe assume you will be moving to North Korea when this disaster is beaten soundly.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:43amREPUBLICORP. You want to blame someone for Obama being in the White House we can start with Mike Ditka and go right up the chain of events. If Ditka had been convinced to run for the Senate seat that Obama eventually won (and Ditka WOULD have won at that time)… Obama wouldn’t be where he is right now, lol. I blame DITKA!!
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:50amActually, “Time_”, my main beef with Bush/Cheney was the out of control spending, increasing the size and personal intrusiveness of the federal government, no child left behind, prescription drugs, the bailouts, stimulus, and of course, wars that we can NOT afford. The same thing that i criticize Obama for, i also criticized Bush for. That is the difference between you and i. You gave Bush/Cheney a free pass because they had an (R) at the end of their names.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:52amBush also gave us medicare part D an expansion of the federal government and any conservative worth his salt would be against the expansion of the federal government.Several departments in the federal government are unconstitutional and need to be abolished,if Mitt defeats the Marxist in chief and gains control of the senate he won‘t reduce the size of government and you can bank on that if there’s any solvent banks four years from now.
Report Post »Tigress1
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:53am@Republicorp, I LOVE MITT ROMNEY!!! He excites me as much as any candidate has ever done since Ronald Reagan! Conservatives don’t bow down and worship their candidates like Democrats do. Conservatives won’t squeal and faint just at the sight of ANY candidate. It’s just not in their nature. They are looking for a leader, not a rock star. True leaders are always leaders, while rock stars are just a fad, and their popularity can fade just as quickly as it arose.
Report Post »Why do I like Romney? MANY reasons. I see a good, decent and very kind person. He does good deeds and never brags about them because he is HUMBLE not arrogant like Obama. I see an intelligent man – so intelligent that he graduated from Harvard Law school with honors, passed the Bar Exam, but preferred being a businessman over the shady field of law. I see a man who is greatly competent in his chosen field, and has a passion for helping other people and a REAL patriotic spirit. I see a man who is not perfect, and I don’t agree with 100% of what he has done, (but pretty close to it) but I don’t know of anybody that I ever agree with 100% of the time. Do you? I see a man who has the same values that I have, who is proud of success, but also wants others to be successful in both their professional and personal lives. I see someone who wants to unite this country not divide it.
dissentnow
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:09am@ChiefGeorge
“Bush was not a disaster! Gas was down, unemployment at record lows, production up, housing growth up, pride in ones country up, he fought two wars simultaneously….most of the reason you say he was a disaster is because the media have brainwashed most people in this country to believe that lie without providing any proof other than Bush mashing his words in delivery. Big Whoop”
I don’t know what planet that you were living on at the time but i remember my gas, at one point, going up to almost $5.00, the housing market tanking, and two wars being funded by borrowing money from our good friend communist China, as well as printing more money.
Report Post »In all honesty, the gas prices and the housing market tanking were NOT Bush’s fault. I don’t blame him for that. As far as being brainwashed………How was that housing market doing during the Bush years, again?
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:12amDISS. You can come up with a laundry list of things you don‘t like about Bush and Cheney and you wouldn’t be a Ron Paul disciple if you didn’t. But the real reasons why you and others like you hate Bush are for exactly the reason I wrote above, but you can spin it in another direction if you choose.
Ron Paul acolytes can also come up with a laundry list of things they didn’t like about Reagan too and DO at every opportunity presented. Don’t even get me started on why Paul and his followers hate Lincoln etc.
The fact remains. The Ron Paul Revolution is based on Ron Paul’s Rothbardian libertarian anti-war zeolotry which motivates the rest of his platform. It’s as simple as that.
The fact is…
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:15am@Tax
“We assume you will be moving to North Korea when this disaster is beaten soundly”
So, we aren’t allowed to criticize the government and its leaders anymore without being told to leave the country. How constitutional of you? You are a great American!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:35amTo All: I hope I am wrong about Romney. Being from NY I don’t have much faith in North-East Republicans. As far as Bush, his lack luster leadership of big spending, big government, immigration was and is a factor for where we are at. He sucked!
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:41am@Time_
Report Post »So, because i support Ron Paul for president that makes me a “Ron Paul disciple”. I also voted for Harry Brown. Does that make me a Harry Brown disciple? I also voted for Chuck Baldwin. Again, am i a Baldwin disciple? You support Mitt Romney. Does that mean that you are a Mitt Romney disciple? I don’t agree with Ron Paul on everything, although i do agree with most of what he says. I’ll admit that he does have his share of rapid supporters who hang on his every word. I am not one of them. I support Ron Paul because he best represents my views on the role of the federal government. I am a libertarian. Of course i also support his views on foreign policy but that is just a small drop in the bucket for me.
TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:54amDISS. Exactly my point. You are a libertarian. Thou shalt not make any laws against thee…
Conservatives need to distance themselves from libertarianism. Especially Ron Paul’s strain of Murray Rothbardian/Lew Rockwellian strain of libertarianism.
Report Post »TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:58amREPUBLICORP. I moved out of NY when the carpet bag’gng Clintons moved in and have never looked back. That was the last straw. I’m in a “stand your ground” state that has no taxes, lol.
Report Post »dissentnow
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 12:06pm@Time_
“You are a libertarian. Thou shalt not make any laws against thee…”
That is not libertarian; that is libertine.
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Posted on April 15, 2012 at 12:22pmDISS. The libertarian believes that legal restrictions and social norms exist just to oppress him. With all the libertarian emphasis on personal liberty, there is remarkably little attention paid to personal obligation. In fact, the notion of obligation itself is almost anathema.. no one should be forced to do anything, and extreme libertarianism accepts virtually no exterior restraint on personal liberty.
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Posted on April 15, 2012 at 1:04pmAgain, you don’t know the difference between libertarian and libertine. Actually, what you are describing is more along the lines of anarchy. There is no anarchy in libertarianism. Libertarians are bound legally by the same laws that you are bound to. Although, libertarians would prefer that laws not granted to the federal government by way of the constitution be handled on a state and local level. Again, we are bound by the same laws that you are. If we harm or infringe upon your rights and/or property, we are subject to all of the laws that are already on the books that defend your rights as an individual and as a property owner. Libertarianism is, by definition, the ultimate act of personal responsibility. You are free, depending on state and local laws, to make bad choices with your life. But with bad choices comes consequences. If you make a bad choice, don’t go running to federal government looking for a hand out.
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Posted on April 15, 2012 at 1:54pmIf that’s the case DISS, I can only assume you would be a better fit with Gary Johnson than you would with the Ron Paul Revolution as libertarianism has its basis in anarchism, as put forth by Murray Rothbard. Ayn Rand (who I am also no fan of mind you) excoriated anarchism, and for good reason. Rothbard learned laissez-faire capitalism at Ayn Rand’s knee, then proceeded to steel those ideas and corrupt them, which led to modern day libertarianism, a polyglot of conflicting ideas, without a consistent moral foundation which is the basis for Ron Paul’s libertarian ideological leanings.
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Posted on April 15, 2012 at 2:51pmYou’re generalizing. Not all libertarians support Anarcho-capitalist policies, just like not all democrats support abortion and not all republicans oppose abortion. Anarcho-capitalism has its positives, as well as its negatives. We can debate the pros and cons of Anarcho-capitalism if you’d like. If you support privatizing airport security and eliminating the TSA, as many of the people who post on the Blaze do, then you support part of Anarcho-capitalism.
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Posted on April 15, 2012 at 5:06pmDISSENTNOW:
Report Post »RE: Housing during Bush. I have 2 words for you, names actually. Dodd-Frank. You must know the Fair Housing Act with POTUS Clinton in 1999 is what gave birth to the subprime industry correct? Banks FORCED to loan money that any calculator qualifying a loan would reject the applicant. 0% down just to get people in homes. I didn’t like the wars either and as far as no-child and prescriptions…who ran the houses? Personally I think Bush should have pushed for line item veto and rejected plenty of spending. I really wish he had.
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Posted on April 15, 2012 at 5:46pm@Inlight
Report Post »I NEVER said that Bush was to blame for the housing market crash. In fact, i said that he WASN’T to blame.
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Posted on April 15, 2012 at 7:17pmDIS:
Report Post »I understood your position, but to think that the housing bubble did not precipitate the lending crisis is naive at best. Fannie and Freddie took on the risk as gov agencies and it became a shell game with trillions at that point. Scripts and no child were a pittance compared to the fiasco of Dodd-Frank-democratic congress and Clinton.
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Posted on April 15, 2012 at 8:26pmI really have no idea where you’re coming from, “in light”. I never said that Bush was to blame for any of it. I know all about Dodd/Frank, the community reinvestment act, and all of the other liberal policies that lead to the bubble and the eventual crash. Why do you keep insisting that i’m blaming Bush?
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Posted on April 16, 2012 at 8:10amDIS:
2 Reasons:
“From one unmitigated disaster to another…….”
By ChiefGeorge
“Bush was not a disaster! “………..
Your response…
“I don’t know what planet that you were living on at the time”…………….
I’m not the biggest Bush fan, but 911 was unprecedented and affected the economy, national security and virtually every aspect of American life. People forget that and what it must have been like to be running the country 8 months into his administration.
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Posted on April 16, 2012 at 6:38pmNothing that you said had anything to do with the housing market crash. I’m still waiting…….
Report Post »Also, about 9/11……..what is that old saying again? Oh yeah, never let a crisis go to waste. Bush/Cheney certainly didn’t let that crisis go to waste!
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Posted on April 16, 2012 at 9:04pmDIS:
Busy day. Trying to make a buck serving customers to feed the family.
Separate housing from the overall economy and we are foolish. The bush economy is typically defined by his last 3-6 months in office (unemployment, gas $ etc) . We can debate unemployment, GDP, Job creation but anyone saying he is the “worst” over his 8 years will lose that debate. My point to you is you exempt POTUS Bush from the housing bubble knowing that was the pre-cursor to so many other failures. 90%+ home ownership rate is a fact, and a joke by comparison to poverty / affordability rates. Who put those people in the houses, who forced the banks to loan the money, who allowed a 2nd and 3rd mortgage based on non-existent equity. You seem like a smart guy so you know as housing would go, so would go the rest of the economy…ie capital. The “housing bubble” burst 12-14 months prior to the “lending bubble” which manifested in late summer/fall 2008. Ironic…ain’t it? In the end I sense your exemption of housing statements are as convenient as the exceptions of today..”If it weren’t for Bush (tax cuts, war, spending..pick one) the Obama economic policies (QE1 or 2) would have had a much greater impact…the problems were worse than we knew.” Dodd/Frank was cause and effect on an astronomical scale. Bush’ biggest problem was spending and like I said, I wish he held it tighter.
Check some stats. Construction starts look to be good for 2012. MULITFAMILY construction th
Report Post »jujubeebee
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 9:49amAmen to that!
Report Post »TAXEVERYONE
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:47amThe best thing Bush did was cause Obama to get elected. It woke up the silent majority that would still be asleep if McCain would have won. It showed us how bad the libs really are.
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Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:50amI am excited, Mitt will put the correct policy in place to reverse the incredible damage the current traitor has perpetrated against all of the citizens of this Nation. Obama is a calculating man and hell bent on removing the greatness of Liberty and Freedom. obama is like oil is to water. Meaning he is not able to
Report Post »mix with a freedom loving constitutional nation. I personally despise the sob for what he is doing and the reason he is doing it. He is Pure Evil and there is no other way to describe the bastard.
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Posted on April 15, 2012 at 10:56amYea like the dems running the House AND Senate!!!! I”m sure thats what he meant.
Report Post »grand slam grandam
Posted on April 15, 2012 at 11:18amAmen to Tigress1…..well composed and very heartfelt. Thank you for composing your message.
ROMNEY 2012!
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