Chris Christie Blasts ‘Crazies’ After Appointing Muslim Judge: The ‘Sharia Law Business Is Just Crap’
- Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:15am by
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I guess you can call Chis Christie the antithesis of Herman Cain.
The New Jersey governor appointed a Muslim judge this year, something Cain said he would never do (and then backtracked), and during a press conference yesterday answered questions about it. Or more appropriately put, he delivered a trademarked, passionate tongue-lashing of those who questioned his decision.
Mediaite has some of Christie’s most colorful quotes (which I’ve bolded):
“Ignorance is behind the criticism of Sohail Mohammed,” he told a reporter asking about the complaints that he may be inadequate to be a judge because he defended Muslim Americans who were wrongly arrested post-9/11. “He is an extraordinary American who is an outstanding lawyer and played an integral role in the post-September 11th period in building bridges between the Muslim American community in this state and law enforcement,” Gov. Christie argued, adding that he was “disgusted, candidly, by some of the questions he was asked… at the Senate judiciary committee.”
But it was a follow-up question on the fear of Sharia Law that set the governor off. “Sharia Law has nothing to do with this at all, it’s crazy!” he cried. “The guy is an American citizen!” He concluded that the “Sharia Law business is just crap… and I’m tried of dealing with the crazies,” adding with disgust and frustration that “it’s just unnecessary to be accusing this guy of things just because of his religious background.”
Watch it unfold below:
Mohammed is an Indian-American who was appointed as a Superior Court judge back in January. He has just now been sworn in.
I wonder what Herman Cain will say.
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Comments (816)
Bluefish49
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:41am@classwarfare….keep it up the good work and get more of your friends to do the same. As a TEA Party Member this is the kind of stuff that makes me only want to work harder for the Conservative Cause and to save the United States of America from shared wealth socialism.
Report Post »NES
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:17amI’m waiting for all of the Soros trolls to log in as fake Tea Partiers and post comments to make Tea Partiers out to be ignorant Islamophobic bigots. I guess it‘s still too early in the morning for them after staying up all night playing World of Warcraft in their parents’ basement.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:35amNothing like a little Jersey straight up talk to freak out the Tea People. Gotta have a villain, so now Christie is a villain. You gotta love the I’m right their wrong crowd…..why actually think.
Report Post »spuggylips
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:46amNES, you just might bring me back into the fold with your rational, thoughtful posts.
I do have a hard time believing all of the outrageous comments posted here are not from actual TEA party people though, I mean they would have to be super busy all over the internet.
Anyways, enjoy your posts.
Ronko
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:24amChristie’s making a huge mistake here, I hope he‘s looked into the background of this guy extensively to make sure he isn’t Sharia compliant or any other anti-american issues. If he is then Christie dropped the ball. There is no good muslim, unless they come out and condem the rest of their religion, until then I will be skeptical and everybody else should be too.
robert
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:36amAs fanatically obssessed with Muslim law as Muslims are, to accuse someone of being crazy for having legitimate qualms about this man’s appointment is in itself pure madness.
Strange isn’t it that John Ashcroft had to get up in Congress, hold up his right hand and swear he wouldn’t allow his Christian beliefs to interfere with his decisions, although no Christians were ever involved in jihad, yet bringing up valid complaints against a religion that is involved in numerous killings every year should go unchallenged?
I’m going to bet right now that this man will be rendering decisions as kooky as a Clinton or Carter appointee…..and just as biased in favor of Islamic law.
Christie just knocked himself out of contention for president.
Report Post »Brad
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:42am@Bluefish49 – Are you out of your mind??? Classwarfare reminds me of a toothache I once had. Liberal people like him is proof that evolution can go in reverse. I would expect to see a tail protruding from the backside of this bananagargler .
What people fail to realize is that there are repercussions and effects for people’s beliefs. They certainly do have the “right” to believe anything they want, but that doesn’t mean we should embrace them. I could never have a liberal “friend”. It’s a matter of respect, in that I could NEVER respect them for having such donkeystumped, hairbrained idealogies. I mean, they could possibly be very nice…It could happen…but why take the chance of them biting your head off. Sharks are probably very nice fishies, but I wouldn’t want to pet one.
Every person’s central choices in life are driven by their worldview, and everyone’s worldview is greatly influenced by their spiritual inclinations. The social and political preferences of people are closely tied to their spiritual beliefs and practices. Which seems to explain the great disparity in policy stances between conservatives and liberals on issues of morality related to for example evolution, marriage and sanctity of life.
This judge may very well be an average Mo, and be like some “christians” (small c) and not really accept the tenants of his religion, in which case he would be safe. However if he’s a real Muslim, hes dangerous and has no business as
Report Post »jzs
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:27pmMy respect for Christie just went way up. And then, on the other hand, you have Herman Cain who had to recant and say he would not violate the spirit and letter of the Constitution by imposing a religious test on members of his cabinet. Glad he cleared that up by stating that he only meant he wouldn’t appoint a known terrorist to his cabinet. I strongly support not appointing suicide bombers to government posts.
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:28pmGAWD !!! The libos have jumped in on this like a bunch of Piranhas..
Report Post »Their all over the place…The Freebies are about to end, NOOOOO !!
F’N leaches……
techengineer11
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:39pmChris, Romney, Cain, Pawlenty are all Neo-Cons. Beware!
Bachmann and Paul are the only real true Patriots.
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:01pm“Christie’s making a huge mistake here, I hope he‘s looked into the background of this guy extensively to make sure he isn’t Sharia compliant or any other anti-american issues.” — @Ronko — Christie did say he has known him for nine years and sounds like he has worked with him close enough to have a pretty good idea of his character. We need to remember that not all Muslim’s push that Sharia Law is implemented within our judicial system. Usually it is the wolves in sheeps clothing like the guy in Great Britain (sorry, can’t recall his name right now). I don’t think Christie is going to do something that hurts himself in the long run.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:15pmThe FIRST Time Sohail Mohammed uses sharia law on a case I will be among the FIRST TO CALL FOR HIS REMOVAL.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:15pmI guess Christie hasn’t looked at England, as an example. There are neighborhoods in London that are nothing but muslims, and they want Sharia Law to rule within those neighborhoods. It will probably happen where British Law will no longer apply in muslim neighborhoods. Muslims want the same thing here. Wake up, Christie!
Report Post »Jezcruzen
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:17pmI consider myself as a Tea Party person and I think Christy is exactly right. The only question should be , “is the guy a good judge?”. End of story.
Report Post »lylee
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:31pm“Shared wealth socialism”, don’t you mean shared poverty of socialism?
Report Post »Bullhorn Guy
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:43pmNES,
Report Post »You are mistaken, friend. Islam is more than a religion. It was meant, from the beginning, to be a religious AND political force, and the goal has always been and will always be for Islam to rule the world, and Sharia to be the law of all lands. It was not high-jacked by extremists. The jihadists are the ones practicing true Islam. The so-callled moderates are not.
stacie01872
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:51pmI usually agree with Christie and enjoy his antics, but this time i beg to differ. In England, at this very moment, sharia law is being imposed upon the citizens of that country. Sharia law zones have been declared and it has also been declared that England WILL be a muslim nation! France is going through something similar. Better safe than sorry, if you ask me. I thought christie was above playing the political correctness game. What a shame. This from theblaze.com if all of you haven’t read.
Report Post »http://www.theblaze.com/stories/you-are-entering-a-shariah-controlled-zone-uk-group-to-wage-islamic-law-campaign/
Tedtpi
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:58pmBluefish49: No longer should we refer to the libs and progressive hacks as leftists or socialists. Henceforth, and since they wish to spend our progeny’s wealth, they will be known as
Report Post »“FINANCIAL PEDOPHILES” It is a system which they have created the relabeling of those that disagree with your ideology. Anyone wishing to support those in government that spend money we don’t have is a FINANCIAL PEDOPHILE!
Morris
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 2:11pmJust what “WE THE PEOPLE” need,Another Islam-Muslim,To be making new laws and rules for
“WE THE PEOPLE”,The American Citizens of the USA to follow!
Don’t know how many Muslims we have working in Washington DC now,But job by job one at a time
they are Infiltrating into our Legal System and getting postitions in our Goverment!
Don’t know about you,But I don’t like the idea of Muslims making new laws and rules for me to live by1
Thought that Gov. Christie had his head screwed on straight,Guess I was wrong!
I strongly support not appointment people that live by the KORAN or living with ISLAM RELIGION , and SHARIA-LAW,To be holding Goverment Posts or working as a Judge in our legal system!
Has Gov. Christie ever read the KORAN?
Wake up,America,Wtih Dictator Barack Hussein Obama,our Muslim – in- Chief and his Mexican-
Muslim Loving Admin.,This is what Obama wants is to get more Muslims in Gov.and the Legal system
(SHARIA-LAW IS ON THE WAY IN THE USA)?
“WE THE PEOPLE” Must wake the hell up,Dictator Obama and his Mexican-Muslim Loving Admin.
are pushing “”UN-AGENDA-21″, “GUN CONTROL” and the “DREAM ACT”,Cass Sunstein is
working over time on new Executuive Orders for Dictator Obama to sign into laws to TAKE TOTAL CONTROL OF ‘WE THE PEOPLE” OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
Impeach this Dictator Obama,Save America for your Children,Grand Children and Your Great Grand Children.
FOR EVIL TO FLOURISH,ALL THAT IS NEEDED IS FOR GOOD AMERICAN PEOPLE
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 2:21pmLooks like Christy tipped his hand.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 2:29pm@chazman So you are ok with the Rabbinical courts in orthodox Jewish areas like Brooklyn? Not sure how it would be different if Muslims wanted to utilize Sharia law among their own communities.
Report Post »NES
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 3:09pm@Bullhorn Guy
You mean like Christianity, Christ’s commandment to His apostles to preach to the gentiles, and that pesky Paul guy? A religion seeking to spead is hardly novel.
The Qur’an calls Jews and Christians “People of the Book,” referring to the Bible, and says to tax them at a higher rate than Muslims as an incentive to convert. The infidels, or unbelievers, were pagans, just like the ones in the Old Testament that God commanded the Israelites to wipe out based on infidelity to God and their abominable practices, among others, of ritual prostitution and infanticide. Modern use of branding Jews and Christians with the word infidel is an invention of the Islamofascist cults. They even use it against each other between the sects.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 3:45pm“Sharia Law” NOT AN ISSUE? REALLY? Can anyone explain to me why Christie is unaware of the fact that “Obamacare” exempts “Muslims” from having to purchase an insurance policy because purchasing an insurance policy is considered “gambling” in the Muslim doctrine and IT IS PROHIBITED…SO…HOW is this not leading toward SHARIA LAW? EXPLAIN that to me would ya?
Report Post »Roberto G. Vasquez
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 4:09pmAmericans with good sense learned everything they needed to know about Muslims on 9/11. Apparently that doesn’t include Governor Christie.
Report Post »BBoo
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 4:16pmIf the Judge is a Muslim, he must believe in Sharia Law or an apostate will be issued onto him!
Report Post »jonnydoe
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 4:20pm“The guy is an American citizen!” Christie cried. “Sharia Law has nothing to do with this at all, it’s crazy!”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the Ft Hood shooter an American citizen? How about the recent copycat bomber at Ft Hood? Citizenry has nothing to do with it. It‘s the ideology that drives your actions that’s important.
Report Post »cykoaudio
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 4:37pmI think the mark of a good Tea Party supporter,&what makes them different from libs is they can admit when they’re wrong(I always want Obama/Pelosi/Reid to admit when wrong,often,so I follow suit),& I think this may be 1 debate some Tea folk might want to rethink-I don’t believe Christie is saying,”screw all you tea partiers,sharia law is fine,I want to be known as an establishment Repub”-if you all have heard Christie before,he’ll say screw you to muslims too,when warranted,& even to his -judge friend if needed-he just says what he thinks at the moment..isn‘t that a sign of leadership we’ve been looking for?where you know where you stand w/ him..I believe Chrisite-based on his history of not flip flopping/putting biz before expediency(one thing you can’t say about him is being like O in that regard).& believe some of y’all brothers/sisters in Tea,you might want to rethink Christie,although @tech,I agree Bachmann & Paul are the only non-Rino’s,I would add that makes Paul-w/the superior knowledge of economics,politics in D.C audit FedReserve,&back off U.N./Agenda 21-the ONLY choice for repubs,,plus he‘ll get independnt’s that Bachmann could not,fair or not,she’s viewed as “extreme right wing”..so yes,if we want W/H we should all get behind Paul(he’s far more convincing en masse on T.V/debates,command of the facts on gold standard/history etc)..but w/ Christie as prez,you don’t have to agree “socially” w/good leader if he’s federalist,right?
Report Post »Lateris
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 4:42pm@ Nes- they play Age of Conan.
Report Post »ginsberg
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 4:54pmBullhornguy…so christianity is not a political force? All religions need to gtfo of politics, they cause notiong but misery and ignorance.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 5:04pmGovernor Christie is brave, vitriolic and stubborn, manly traits that we admire until it is our Ox that he decides to Gore!
Stay the way you are, Mister Governor, Continue to govern and compromise to do what’s right. Do not pay attention to polls and approval ratings that would sway a lesser man. Go Large!
TEA
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 5:19pmSo Jrook is Chris Christie a Nazi like the Unions claim him to be or is he a friend of liberals?
You can’t have it both ways!
Report Post »Searreigh
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:11pm@NES
Report Post »Good post! Only an idiot would warn others of a “religion” that demands that their adherents rob, rape and murder non-believers. Who wouldn’t want Judges that believe in a “religion” dedicated to the overthrow of the US constitution.
apollo11
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 8:03pmGood speech. I am a Tea Party person and it looks like the right decision was made here. This guy was not hanging out with people like Van Jones and others. The Jersey gov. knew what he was all about. Nothing to really say or get excited about. As usual, the Jersey Gov. is a real conservative and as usual, making good and sound decisions.
Report Post »BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:54pmRobert-
Agreed. I actually use to think highly of Christie- the way he stands up to teacher’s unions. But his dismissive and almost blatant disregard for Muslims and the Sharia law connection is more than can be forgiven. Islam is our enemy and Christie being in the position that he is in, needs to wake up to that. I will go out on a limb and say I bet within 12 months this Muslim judge will create, or be involved in, a massive controversy, perhaps even relating to Sharia law, for which Christie will have to distance himself from.
Report Post »junkman
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:57pmNES…… I take offense at your, comment ! I PLAY WoW all the time…… AND I live in my mothers’s garage……. BUT I’m NO Leftist CRAZY !!! I’m Conservative as hell, AND I LUV the Tea Party, Go figure……….. RAND 2012 !
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 12:39amChristie now has a stain that shall never wash away..
Christie has betrayed the nation..
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 1:27amHERE’S what CHRISTY does NOT understand!…. THE ISLAMICS are weedling their way into our country and COURT SYSTEM any way they can!! THIS Is their goal…come in as “Constitutional”
Report Post »Judges and then…..it’s all about take over. THEY put their EVIL TROJAN HORSE in the WHITE HOUSE a bit too soon…but they always “jump the gun” they have NO CONCEPT about who AMERICANS really are. CHRISTY is just another PAWN for them… I know he is gutsy and big and blustery…but he’s stupid about this.
vieteravet
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 2:22amI wholey agree with Chritie. I am a conservation, a retired E-7, and a charter school teacher! People are absolutely nuts, a Muslim can be a great patriot, it‘s like these nuts who say Romney can’t be president because he’s Mormon. I will vote for Romney over Obamanation any day. Do you crazies still think catholics should be president?
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 2:40amThis is why The Blaze needs to implement COMMENT RATINGS. So we can DOWNVOTE trolls. It hurts the image of The Blaze to allow trolls and nutjobs to appear to be on the same level as standard, sane commenters.
Report Post »mycomet123
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:14amI wish I could live in a country where EVERYONE is given the benefit of the doubt. People are judged according to their ACTIONS & WORDS instead of their religion or race.
Report Post »Renellin
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 10:23amSorry, I am confused. What does the Tea Party have to do with this article? I am a Tea Partier, but the TEA Party stands for Taxed Enough Already. I am concerned that every opinion a Tea Partier might have may be broadly brushed across all of us. I stand with Christie–he says he knows the man and that Sharia Law will not enter into it. We might as well wait and see. Simply being Muslim shouldn‘t mean you can’t get a job. This response is meant to reply to several of the posts here, but this was the only spot I could find a button. If that means I am dumb, it doesn’t mean all Tea Partiers are dumb too.
Report Post »freeus
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 11:16amChristie is not ready for prime time. The Gov. needs to do his homework. Stick to NJ, Mr. Christie.
Report Post »dominke
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 12:09pmChrisi true colors have come out. The power of these judges is beyond belief. Once they are in office it take their death to get them out. The voters are seeing first hand the deception of Christi.
Report Post »neocon1
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 1:23pmnes
like the KKK, black panthers, nation of islam, hamas, SCLC, NAACP, rainbow push, code pink, SDS, winter soldiers, SEIU, and hundreds of other leftist marxist groups, they are ALL leftys many funded by SOROS and islam.
check this out stooge
http://thereligionofpeace.com/
Report Post »PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 2:12pmChris Christy isn’t everything that Ann Colter make him to be…at first i thought we had a new hero, but some of the things he’s done are good…but now i don’t like him much anymore. It’s that social justice crap from the vatican. Bye Bye Christy you’re off my list.
Report Post »Pujols
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 3:35pmThis Man is GOLD and as Big as He is that’s alot.
Report Post »We need CHRIS CHRISTIE NOW!
This Guy is twice the Man Obama is and I mean that in more ways than one.
CC would never take the telepromter to a Grade School.
Obama speaks well? ____________ So do all 6 of My Parrots.
cromag11b
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:05pmTedtpi- Does that include Bush? Largest debt growth in US history under W.
NES – Have you been to an actual TP rally? It doesn’t take anyone to post fake nonsense. There’s a reason my involvement lasted until the first time I went to a rally and witnessed the crazy first hand.
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on August 6, 2011 at 12:56amWelcome to your worst nightmare Christie..Too bad your going to have a heart-attack!!!! POP!!!! LOL!!!
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on August 6, 2011 at 2:14amI pray that the Governor doesn’t have to regret this appointment. Do I think all Muslims are bad? Of course not. The unfortunate side of what has happened around the world for the last 25 years does make me suspicious of Muslims. That’s not my fault. My only suggestion to the good Muslims, do a better job of policing your own people and weed out the ones that are prone to terrorism, and those that preach Jihad.
Report Post »The Day the Tea Party was Murdered… http://www.AmericasTeaPartyNews.com
shirelover
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:40amBlaze,
I am disappointed with who wrote this article, there is a glaring mistake “Cain said he would never do (and then backtracked)” Mr. Cain said that he would never hire an American hating muslim and then said that he is sorry that he offended people and that he will still never hire an American hating muslim. Get it right!
I do not know who this judge is, but is it possible for an American muslim to know American law? If he follows American law better than “homegrown” judges (I’m thinking the idiots in certain, unnamed states) then who cares what his religeon is? As long as there is no Sharia law attempted? The next question is, if he does, how does one get him off the bench after Mr Christie leaves?
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:59amThat is a very good point. The muslim religion is does not mesh with the American way of life. He will judge like all other judge, with his own convictions, and beliefs in mind.
Report Post »NES
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:11am@MacDaddy
You only think that because you’re ignorant of Islam. Radical Islamofascism, Wahhabism, and Iranian Shiism do not fit with the American way of life, but Islam in and of itself is not antithetical to our way of life.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:27amCain is a bigot, that is falling like a stone in the polls, He prove he is a bigot everytime he opens his mouth and shows how empty his head is.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:32am@NES
Report Post »That‘s where you’re wrong. Islam is a political ideology. Muslim religion I suppose doesn’t have to follow Islam, but it would have to start a new faction. And if there are so many moderates out there who don’t support the radicals, where are they? Where is the outcry that the radicals are making them look bad? I’ve seen ONE.
loriann12
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:33am@encinom
So only CONSERVATIVE black can be bigots? What about the story of the secret service saying Michelle (my belle) hates all white people. I read her college thesis about proving that all colleges are against black people.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:49am@encicom,
You are a racist!! You are disagreeing with a black man… you my friend are a RACIST!
PrfctlyFrank
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:01amPeople people people, encinom is a seminar troll.. Different writing styles, grammatical differences.. Don’t waste your time.. encinom is simply an obamatron..
Report Post »RACHAL44
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:07amExcellent reply, this particular issue needs much more thought and consideration. As radical and un-American as many of the passages of the Koran are additional examination of this potential jihadist is mandatory. I am in total shock over the action by a sober Conservative such as Christie. Until further examination of this particular issue and Gov. Christie I would’nt cast a vote for Christie, except for something like “dog-catcher”.
Report Post »riverdog1
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:41ami’m not a repub ar a teaparty member but it seems gov christie is a REAL conservative and not the bigoted idiots posting here. really shria law, get off this worthless crap.
Report Post »nuthrdumkinsrvativ
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:54am@NES
Report Post »Stop wasting your typing. Poor MACPAPPY and RACHAL44 have never read the Bible, much less the Quran. They are not aware of the fact that Islam did not invent things like stoning, slavery and arranged marriage. Those things were part of the culture before Judaism and are throughout the Old Testament. The majority of Christians and Jews follow a post-reformation era interpretation of their religions that recognizes the simple fact that cultural references in their respective religious texts should be judged in the context of the culture of the time but the principles they represent are timeless. A similar reformed view of the Quran is still a small minority of Muslims worldwide but it should be encouraged. It makes some sense to be more guarded in acceptance of Muslims as reformed until you know more about them, but those who fully embrace our principles of religious tolerance are the front line against the radicals.
AlmostaCowboy
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:06pm@encinom – McCain is not a “bigot”. McCain, like you, is a dolt and a dullard.
Report Post »muhamadhater
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:14pm@ Loraine..Very good point..and very good question!! where are they?? A mulim is a muslim..there following a fake relious cult..Just because there not extremist on the out side doesnt meen there not down with the ultimate goal of shariah law world wide!! I have seen a couple of muslims speak out,but, am disapointed the didnt lead 2 more muslims speakin out about extremist hijackin there religeon!!!! I know one thing if I saw a bunch of christians going 2 extremes these muslim extremist do, I would be speaking out about the way there acting, and choices there taking!!
Report Post »God bless America and Isreal!!
DYNA
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:53pmIn general I do not trust a muslim as a judge. By the Lord God, I am not suppose to trust everyone, including those devoted to idols.
I know of the negative connotation of bigot, but it is a word that is used to describe someone who states a dislike or distrust of another. The problem is that those who use the word bigot imply that you have to like and trust every one, while they themselves may be bigoted for using the word bigot.
From what I know, the english use of the word bigot dates back to about 1598. But was used in the middle ages by the French. The exact origin of the word is unknown, but may have been German from the words bei and Gott or “by God”. It seems that the original negative use of the word bigot or “by God” was used by the French against the Christian Normans who did not want to totally submit to the French and their King. So the Christian Normans who wanted to do that which is right “by God”, were derogatorily called “bigots” by the more secular/worldly French.
Report Post »NES
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:14pm@Loriann
Islam is not a political ideology. It is the religion that Muslims follow. It can and has been turned into a political ideology called Islamism by extremists, and most, but not all, Muslims are sympathetic in varying degrees with extremists because they are brainwashed from birth into hating Israel and America as the root cause of their miserable lives rather than their own governments. Most of the criticism against Islam can be applied to Christianity based on, for example, what was done by the Holy Roman Empire, and atheists make similar arguments based on this to say that the Christian religion is the root cause of evils committed by the Catholics during the Dark Ages. Evil men, inspired by the devil, will use any means possible to control and rule over others, including and especially religion. The same applies to Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. Since I am a Christian, I try to follow Christ’s admonition to love and pray for my enemies. Thus, I pray that the majority of Muslims will become more like the few whom I know that love America and reject extremism. The Bible says that Israel will reconcile with the strangers in the land (Palestinians) and with Syria, so I believe all of the Children of Abraham will live in peace one day, however impossible that seems now.
Report Post »Clive
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 4:26pmloriann12 said
@encinom
So only CONSERVATIVE black can be bigots? What about the story of the secret service saying Michelle (my belle) hates all white people. I read her college thesis about proving that all colleges are against black people.
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encimom didn’t say that conservative black(s) can be bigots… she called cain a bigot. so whats that about…
and this story about the secret service saying michelle obama was a racist… can you provide a link to this story? the secret service don’t usually give interviews, especially on the subject of a sitting president… so i’m pretty sure you just made that up…
Heres the kicker
Report Post »The next comment you make is ripping on someone for “bearing false witness”, and quoting the bible… maybe you should take some of your own medicine, time to refill your prescription, you silly hypocrite.
loriann12
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 4:58pm@Clive
The bearing false witness was not directed at any individual, it meant that the Bible calls lying bearing false witness. I‘m sure she really believes what she’s saying. But when you can point out in the Bible that we’re supposed to lie to Muslims, I’ll stop the debate. I already pointed out the versus in the Quran where it says to lie to infidels. Even the Ft. Hood shooter said he was lying. As to the link, I don’t have it anymore, but I’ll research it and see if I can find it.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 5:32pm@clive
I stand corrected on the book review. It must have been a slanted review as the only review I could find that mentions Michelle says they’re both nice to the secret service. Here’s the link I found:
http://w3.newsmax.com/a/aug09/secret_service/
See, the difference between conservatives and progressives, is we want the truth, no matter what it is. That makes me realize the poor souls (President and First Lady) actually believe the bull they are shoveling.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 12:58am@cessna152
Report Post »encinom and monicne are the same person with the name spelled backwards. This person has a split personality and is psychotic. Don’t get dragged down into either conversation or debate. You will be arguing with a person who needs serious medical help. I don’t think ObamaCare can help this psychotic but that is what this person is hoping for. Along with an SSDI paycheck every month and medical marijuana.
bry
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:38amClasswarfair is a biggot.
Christie was right to appoint this man…being a muslim does not mean you pratice sharia. Base your opinion on facts, otherwise you are no better than the fool, classwarfair.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 8:09amReally, have you given that much thought. Are you a Christian? A Muslim does not have to be Sharia like a Christian does not have to be mindful of the Ten Commandments. Shari is the Muslim law, like the commandments are Christian law. Our nation is OK with Christian law………it is not OK with Sharia law.
Report Post »bry
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 8:55amMacPappy…I am not OK with sharia law…and our courts are not ruled by Christian law, though it may hold to some christian values…
What I am saying is not all muslims live by Sharia law…if this judeg does, he must go, but if he does not I have no problem with a muslim judge, or Christian or Jew, as long as their rulings adhere with our Constitution. Have you thought about that?
Report Post »NES
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:06am@MacDaddy
Please define Sharia Law since it is practiced differently by different Muslims and different Islamic countries. Sharia in Saudi Arabia is not the same as Sharia in Malaysia.
American Muslims practicing Sharia Law in their personal religious lives is fine so long as that version of Sharia does not violate US laws and is not made equivalent or superceding to US laws in civil matters. This is the same as it is for other Christian faiths that have church laws, courts, and councils.
Report Post »Roberto G. Vasquez
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:21amBRY, the problem with Islam is that it is not just another religion. It is an alien way of life that is dictated by the Koran and is totally incompatible with our way of life and our Constitution. That means it is impossible for a true believer Muslim to be a patriotic American who will uphold fundamental American laws and values. One can either obey the U.S. Constitution or the Koran, but not both.
Report Post »NES
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:29am@Roberto
How many times did you read the Qur’an before coming to that conclusion?
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:36am@bry
Report Post »I have to agree with you there. IF he does nothing in contradiction to the constitution, I would have no problem with him. I guess we’ll have to wait and see. I’m for the ability to remove judges should they prove traitors to our country, though. And that’s a traitor as defined by trying to destroy America, or the constitution, not just because they’re against either party.
Seede
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:38amYou may be right on one point. That point being that this Muslim does not practice sharia law- BUT that is not to be believed that this Muslim does not believe in sharia law and given the opportunity will not join his brothers. The Muslim is exonerated when lying to a an infidel in all cases and that is not a sin in their hand book. A Muslim is always just that — A Muslim — Don’t be foolish –
Report Post »HankScram
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:10pmA person’s religious views do matter. Anyone part of a religion – a big group with hierarchy, red tape, rituals – is someone to watch carefully. They don’t think for themselves. They do what their religious leaders.
We need leaders who listened to God – not leaders who listen to and follow religious leaders. Muslim religion, like many religions, does not reflect this Country’s founding values of independent thought, reason, self-reliance.
Report Post »YAHSHUARULES
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:27pmTo all that think you can co-exist with Islam watch this video with the Son of Hamas founder who knows better then most who and what ISLAM is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHq25tnZoFs
A distinction has to be made between Muslims who are decieved and ISLAM which is nothing more than a murderous spirit of pure evil. Christie needs to do some homework and educate himself as to the real face of Islam.
I wont qualify that the problem is only “radical” as former muslims say that there is no such thing as a moderate muslim if they are really following the quran.
Reza Safa (author of “Inside Islam”) says that only NOMINAL Muslims are peace loving. NORMAL Muslims that follow the Quran can’t be. Islam has blood on every page of its history and teaching. Islam carries the spirit of violence.
MOSQUES are Trojan Horses. Not equivalent to churches. Mosques are NOT 501(c)3 – they are not accountable for anything said in them. They come in as a business, I urge everyone in USA to make sure that Islam is not becoming more entrenched quietly in your city. I woke up to find a mosque in mine, now they want a dome on it and a tower higher then any church steeple and a noise ordance variance to blare a call to prayer to be heard accross the whole city 5X a day. The first speaker in this mosque alledgedly had ties to 9-11 terrorist attack.
Putting anyone on the courts who itentifies with Islam is one more step to complete destruction of American way of life and
Report Post »ZeitgeistBuster
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:07pm@ NES,
Your comment about the lack of uniformity of the understanding of the application of Sharia Law across the Muslim world IS NOT a source of comfort as you seem to imply. Islam is not a live and let live ideology. It is a superiorists ideology that DEMANDS that all other ways of thinking and understanding our human existence are to submit to and finally be replaced by Islam….. by whatever means -no matter how deceptive or violent- which are justified by “divine” ends.
The areas where we find AGREEMENT among the Muslims lie in the treatment of THIEVES and of the STATUS OF WOMEN, and in the teatment of Muslims who convert away from Islam.
If you are caught stealing, the judgment is to cut off the hand.
If you are a woman, your testimony counts for less than a man’s in a Sharia court. So if you are raped, then Sharia protects the rapists by obliging the woman to produce FOUR male eyewitnesses to the crime.
And Heaven help you if you become an ‘Apostate” to Islam. The universal judgment is death.
That all is the GOOD part of Sharia, because it is consistent.
Now for the BAD part. Where there is no specific rule, a judge can use his own view of you and your situation to render a judgement. This is where a nation of laws vs. a nation of men part company. Our system is flawed, but it is usually flawed in favor of giving the benefit of doubt to the accused. NOT SO with Sharia. BEWARE of those who wish to blur this DISTINCTION!!!!
Report Post »Realist4U
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 4:06pmThat is a lie. You either know it is a lie, or, you are a fool.
Report Post »Realist4U
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 4:10pmThe first act of the new President should be to address this culture war between Christians and Muslims, and, to STOP the creeping Sharia.
Report Post »Knight Templar
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 9:59pmNES
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:29am
@Roberto
How many times did you read the Qur’an before coming to that conclusion?
You only need to read it once to come to that. As much as I hated to, I downloaded a copy to my Nook. The koran is frightening. To appoint any muslim to any official position is to take a big risk. Why would you want anyone living by 14th century barbarian standards overseeing any part of your life.
Report Post »m r 2 dux
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:38amI’m a proud “Southern-minded racist *********” who is looking forward to stomping mudholes in the asses of you kind classwarfare. Frickin’idiot!
You think intimidation is going to stop our quest for getting back to the US Constitution and limited government, you got something else coming.
Report Post »HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:51amSign me up! In honor of my baptist ancestors out of Virginia, pioneering Tennessee and Missouri, they wont have died in vain building this great nation, creating the only free human beings that controlled their own destinies in the history of the world, as long as I have breath left. My grandkids are born free, and I will die to keep them free. If this corrupt government must go, so be it, amen.
Report Post »wesleyapril
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 9:14amI like you two – and I’m a half Yankee and pure 100% redneck southern. You might think you will destroy our country – but you got another thing coming boy – we’ll help you, and we can take a lot of you sob’s out along with us. :)
Report Post »mbriz
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:25amWhat a stupid, stupid person. The Beckys are all about hate. Where were you when Bush was letting members of the military die needlessly in a war that should never have been fought, just so he could one up daddy? Or his Medicare drug plan, I didn’t hear your crap then. You just follow becky blindly because you are incapable of thinking for yourself, or forming a complete sentence. Go back to the hills and marry your sister, and let people with brains do the thinking.
Report Post »gemologist
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:29amYa, too late y’all our country has been destroyed. This is rome, post republic, and the way down is now pre-determined. Now is the time to prepare for the avalanche of red tape about to descent from Washington like never before in the country. Who you know is now more important that what you can do. It is time for younger Americans to play the game and infiltrate the leftist networks in order to secure their children’s future and help out tomorrow.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:29amLooks like wwe need the ghost of General Sherman to teach the rednecks in the south their place.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:55amYeah, tell the north to come back down, and try to kill our boys, rape our women, steal our property, and burn what they can’t take again, we are ready, the outcome will be very different, we learned our lesson the first time, you can’t fight a civil war against murderous thug animals, the gloves will be off.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:54am@mbriz
I guess that’s one thing we can thank Obama for….waking up America. I admit to being a yellow dog Republican (only voting for the R behind the name). My question for you, is where is the outrage that Obama didn’t end this war like he said he was going to, but instead got us into another one? Where are the daily body counts like they did when Bush was in office? Why can’t you admit either 1. you are actually FOR Obama’s America-killing policies, or 2. you are a yellow dog Democrat only voting for the D behind the name?
Report Post »ZeitgeistBuster
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:25pmLooks like Loriann gave you the business there MRBIZ.
Hatred is dumb. But I’m not about to advocate for the government to control perceptions and emotions and prejudices. That would be DUMBER! People need to be allowed to be who they really are, SO THAT THEY CAN LEARN THROUGH HARD EXPERIENCE WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT IS BAD IN LIFE. Nothing is as educational as a person making a total a$$ of themselves.
As long as their prejudices don’t flow over into causing harm to another, what damage does it do to me that someone else hates me for something as illogical as my skin color?
Those who come to reject racial hatred this way are changed in real and lasting ways. Those who are manipulated from the outside will only go through the motions of a facade in order to avoid legal consequences of “hate speech” and such.
Report Post »NES
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:40pmLooks like, after having woke up from a drunken stupor, the faux tea party Soros trolls are on the march again. Then they log out, log back in as Enima Encinom etc, and criticize their own comments. Swampy and Encinom is the same person. Does Comrade Griogi pay you by the word or by the post?
Report Post »Ron_WA
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:37amYawn … Get a job not a blog.
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:36amI don’t know anything about this particular judge, but for Christy to say the Sharia issue is just Crap and call people crazies is wrong. I have just lost A LOT of respect for Christy. Wake up Chris.
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Ron_WA
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:42amThe Chris did not say the issue of Sharia law was crap; he said that this judge would use Sharia was crap – huge difference …
Report Post »Fina Biscotti
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:08amThanks for the heads up – on the link, IronMaan.
Report Post »Conservative Thinker
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 3:01pmChristie is a chump. He should stay governor of Jersey. He has risen to his level of competency. He is the one who is full of baloney.
Report Post »Bowmaster
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:36amNot much imagination from you liberal drones.
Report Post »You have become redundant, and therefore, irrelevant.
BrerRabbit
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:35amHe is soooo clueless. Just lost my vote!
Report Post »Ron_WA
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:47amLook at what he said closer. He said he trusts this guy to NOT USE SHARIA law in the commission of his duties
Report Post »azjeff1963
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:02amyou dont get it RON….we dont want mooslums here…..
Report Post »vieteravet
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 2:32amYeah, and when my mother‘s family came here in 1850 people like you didn’t want the Irish either. Put on your hoods boys and kill the muslims, catholics, jews and the african. What a bunch of uneducated boobs!
Report Post »Son_of_Liberty
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:35am“We hold it for a fundamental and undeniable truth, that religion, or the duty we owe our Creator and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence. The religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man; and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate. This right is in its nature an unalienable right.” James Madison
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Report Post »cemerius
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:16amWell said!!
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:28pmGreat quote, SOL!
Many Americans would be greatly advised to long consider this idea.
I’m starting to like your approach.
Report Post »cromag11b
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:12pmUnfortunately the politics of the GOP and now mostly the tea party preach theocracy. They cling to a version of America that has never existed. Blinded by their own hate and fear that has been stoked to dangerous levels.
Report Post »I just wish half the people actually read the constitution instead of having it interpreted for them.
kaijue
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 6:22pmI posted this elsewhere but your quote is misleading. Our declaration of Independence states as one of the grievances: He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
Sharia Law is not compatible in the least with original intent. There is no compromise between the two.
In 1786 Thomas Jefferson, then US ambassador to France, and John Adams, then US Ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the Dey’s ambassador to Britain, in an attempt to negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress’ vote of funding. To the US Congress these two future Presidents later reported the reasons for the Muslims’ hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.
“…that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
But for a Muslim to keep his word to an Infidel at the expense of opportunities to expand Islamic power is the Islamic equivalent of a mortal sin. The oath a judge would take, if truly embracing the Muslim religion, mean nothing.
Report Post »Ron_WA
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:35amYeah! Chris Christie! Stand for principle & stand up for your decisions! Plain talk about plain facts. If religion has no place in the discussion then keep that crap out of it. Too dang bad we have so few public servants like him.
Report Post »one years food ration like glenn says
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 8:29am@RON.. Closet lib are ya ? So you like cap and trade and you are convinced in man made global warming are ya ? Yes, I guess so, since you love this guy… That’s what this RINO stands for, so you my dear sir are what is called a closet lib…
Report Post »Ron_WA
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 9:14amNot a closet lib – just willing to give someone a chance based on the recommendations of someone w/ a proven track record.
P.S. – Hate crap & trade; don’t believe in MAN-MADE global warming; not a RINO ‘cuz I’m not a Republican & certainly not beholden to the entertainer & fallible human man Glenn; rather I’m Independent & not beholden to any earthly party …
Report Post »saranda
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 9:24am@Oneyear – you just keep up the RINO stupidity and you will help contribute to Obama’s re election. Why alienate other repubs just because they are not as far right as you? We will need all the repub votes we can get and people like you only chase those you call RINO closer to the center and thus more likely to not vote or vote dem. GB and you take such pride in being “pure” conservative and yet all you do is hurt the cause.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 9:44am@saranda…oh yeah we need these RINOs…to keep big government going…and to side with the democrats….on spending, amnesty for illegals, etc…
with friends like that…..
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:47am((Becky is a Mormon, and not tea material))
Report Post »Da Kingfish
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 8:18pmLet’s see if he changes his opinion if one of his kids converts to Moozlim or marries one, that will test his mouth and soul.
Report Post »HanginOn
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:35amI have a riddle for you: “How long before you inhabit one of our fine correctional institutions?” We WILL put you there for decades son.
Report Post »ClassWarFare
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:34amI have nothing but love in my heart. This post is not geared towards anyone in particular, only the one’s who find insult by it from being the truth.
Report Post »Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:23amNothing but love in your heart? Have you looked at your icon? Your moniker is Class WARfare. How stupid do you think people are?
Report Post »sheria-never
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:34amI believe in Chris Christie
If he thought this guy was worthy of the position, then he is.
Time will tell. But I personally don’t think Chris Christie would for a minute allow any Sharia law in the state of New Jersey.
Chris Christie for president
Chris Christie for president of the United States
Report Post »jackbauer
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 8:00amI could be wrong but I don’t think that Christie would have recourse once this judge has been appointed.
Christie is just like many Americans that believe that nothing serious could ever happen to the USA. I’m sure all the other countries that were overrun throughout history probably thought the same thing. We are being infiltrated in preparation to be defeated. This judge maybe the greatest American but given what’s happened and is happening, should we take the chance? Christie is just another disappointing politician. Imagine that!
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 8:46am@Jackbauer
Muslims are told to lie in the Qu’ran to infidels. When asked by the judge, one Muslim said he swore an oath to the United States, but lied. Only time will tell. If this Judge is against Sharia law, that’s a good thing, but I don‘t see how what the Qu’ran teaches can mesh with the constitution.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 9:45am@LoriAnn
Christians are told to lie in the Bible to Muslims. When asked by the judge, one Christian said he swore an oath to the United States, but lied. Only time will tell. If this Judge is against Canon law, that’s a good thing, but I don‘t see how what the Bible teaches can mesh with the constitution.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:30am@MONICNE
Actually, you’re spreading lies. It’s called bearing false witness.
Report Post »We are not instructed to lie, even to Muslims. We love the sinner, hate the sin. We are instructed to fight evil, but lying is not part of that. If you had the Truth, you would see the truth.
SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:39amMocnie, just saying but your attempt attempt at ridicule makes you look ignorant.
Any historian or bible scholar knows that the bible was written centuries before muslims existed. So there are no verses in the bible talking about ‘lieing to muslims’. So your inserted words make little sense. But maybe I was wrong, maybe someone in the bible had a sense of prophecy and speak of the future ‘muslims’. If so, the burden of proof rests on your shoulder to post the verse!
That being said, I wish this judge luck, and hope he sticks true to the constitutional law that he has sworn to uphold. But I dare him to attempt to make judgements based on sharia, because it would just be overturned by the appellate like the last time it happened in New Jersey.
http://nation.foxnews.com/justice/2010/08/06/sharia-law-comes-new-jersey
Otherwise he’ll have alot of angry people on his hands.
Report Post »meetsense
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:49amLoriann, it is always best if you state the source and quotation when making a claim, especially if it’s from the Bible. That way the lies atheists like Monicne come back with are clear to everyone.
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:50am((Look carefully at the prior postings! All I did was take Lori Ann‘s post and change the word Q’Ran to Bible and so forth! So if I am a blasphemer, what makes you think her rant against Islam is true?))
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:12am@ Monicine……Christians are not told to “lie” in the Bible…..Example……..”Therefore, putting away lying, “Let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor, for we are members of one another.” God hates lying!!!! You need to read the Bible!!!!
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:36amLOL
Rolling On The Gym Mat Laughing – Peed My Spandex (ROTGML-PMS)
Read the “Lying” posts – there are 2 of them, mine is just a Mirror Image of Lori Ann’s,
Are they both wrong, LOL?
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:09pm@MONICNE
Volume 3, Book 49, Number 857:
Narrated Um Kulthum bint Uqba:
That she heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar.”
Proof directly from the quaran that you are allowed to lie, because to invent information is not a lie. But I got news for you, inventing information, IS a lie. The truth is not subjective. 1 + 1 always = 2.
Bukhari (84:64-65) – Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an “enemy.”
Bukhari (84:64-65) – Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an “enemy.”
Now, where’s your proof that Christians are allowed to lie to Muslims?
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:19pmWell, Mocne your premise that “lying” and “bible”, and ‘christian”/“jew” can easily switched into the same comment and set the same premise is flaud. As any historian and scholoar of the bible can easily point out. Even one of the ten commandments is ‘though shalt not lie or bear false witness”. So the premise of your new paraphrase doesn’t make much sense. I wouldn’t call it blasphemy, because I don’t think you blasphemed anything. You just showed your lack of knowledge of the sources.
That being said yes there are Christians that lie, but they are breaking there own ten commandments, that makes them hypocrites! Since the bible tells them not to lie or bare false witness!
But what you should have done was asked isn there anything in Islam that supports lying, as the first premise put forth? I‘m sure that islamic scholars and historians can support or refute that claim with verses out of the Qu’ran. Perhaps that’s what you should be asking?
Logic and research are the only ways to win debates! Ad homenym attacks and fallacious reasoning goes nowhere!
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:26pmLorianne12….thank you for posting what the Koran says…I knew that it said that..because I researched it long ago…..you would think Monciine would have done that research…..He or she is just playing games…..so sad
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:26pmThat being said I understand the Talmud (which is not the Bible), does have have a few verses that mirror the many of the Islamic and Sharia precepts of Taqiyya and Kitman. But Christians do not use the Talmud as a basis of any information in the Christian religion. As far as I know… It’s possible there may be a few sects out there?
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:21pmDuring the inquisition when someone was mailiciously and falsely accused of witchcraft and the church inquisitors were made aware of the fact that the accuser was acting out of malice towards a person,the response of the church inquisitors was”the malice of men is the wisdom of God”,thereby allowing false accusations to stand resulting in the torture and executions of people who they knew were victims of maligners [people lying out of malice]. Doesn’t get worse then that when it comes to a lying for God ethos!
Report Post »MONICNE
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:37pm@Lori Ann
Thanks for the references! I admit I was totally wrong. Thanks
You wrote: “Muslims are told to lie in the Qu’ran to infidels.” I never realized that they cannot tell us truth. My eyes are open, thanks to you.
TEA
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:46pmMONICNE
Your an idiot. It’s the Muslims who are told to lie in the Koran not Christians. Putz!
Report Post »Steve
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:54pmEver hear of The term: taqiyya
rose-ellen does it every single day!
Report Post »SacredHonor1776
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 5:14pmFunny Rosy Ellen that you would bring that up. The inquisitors didn‘t follow the bible’s precepts that tell man not to lie to their fellow man, they followed there own human rules, outside of the bible. That makes them hypocrites, and I already mentioned lieing Christians are ‘hypocrites’. Because nothing they said had basis out of the bibile.
Infact ‘malice’ is more of the realm of man and ‘devils’! It‘s not anything having to do with ’God’
But I’m not catholic what would I know? Perhaps you feel the Catholic way is the right way? Are you a Jesuit?
If you are promoting the return of a papap empire, i’d have to fight you as much as I would fight a caliphate! Both systems have brought havok and evil to the world…
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 8:41am@MONICNE
I gave my references, where are yours? Show me in the Bible where it says to lie to Muslims.
Report Post »love the kids
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:34amBigrik, he DOES agree with what christie did here, but he still complains about it.
Report Post »Deckle
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:34amChristy you better wake up! You have not done your homework. Look at where the Netherlands are with Sharia law. Look at England! People of NJ you need to wake up and educate this man! I thought more of you Christy. On this subject you are very ignorant! So sad for your state!
Report Post »alrunner58
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:33amI wish that man would run, he certainly would get my support and vote.
Report Post »one years food ration like glenn says
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 8:33am@ALRUNNER58.. What you’re not going to vote for odumbo again this time around ? Ahh what’s the difference voting for Christie or odumbo it pretty much the same thing…
Report Post »cassandra
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:33am@Class one uses children for jihad and the other uses common sense , the Constitution and rule of law. idiot
Report Post »cromag11b
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:17pmLearn Christian history before making a comment about the use and abuse of children.
Report Post »HanginOn
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:33amReal men confound “progressives”. I am so ready to hear someone speak clear truth to me. Real men don’t worry about how the truth makes liberal puzzy-boyz “feel”. They just say what needs to be said. I can handle the actual truth, can you?
Report Post »ClassWarFare
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 8:20amWhy are we libs poosie boys, because we hate guns? We are still realist, there are crazies out here with guns, so one must protect his family from these nutjobs. However, the only difference is that on the other side of the isle, you praise, worship and glorify guns. Not how the world’s supposed to be, man.
Report Post »MrMark
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 9:53am“…praise, worship and glorify guns.”
Typical delusional leftist misrepresentation. Demonize that which you wish to control. Paint those who appreciate it as unbalanced. Take it away in the name of “protecting the innocent.”
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:33amHow do you tell the difference between the Ft Hood Murdering Muslim and a New Jersey Judge Muslim?
You can’t . Ask the family’s of the murdered soldiers at Ft Hood. After all, he was certified as sane enough to carry a gun, but was shuffled around like a poor teacher.
Report Post »PS you forgot Racist, Bigot, Homophobe,
Deckle
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 1:18pmGreat Job!
Report Post »love the kids
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:33amIsn’t there anything for you to read on progressive sites? I guess if you want to find out the news, these sites are the only place you can get info.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:39amGood one. I was wondering why so many trolls infest this site. They know it’s conservative, why do they torture themselves like this?
Report Post »cromag11b
Posted on August 5, 2011 at 9:21pmNews? Mostly it is heavily edited half truths rapped in a mile of bias and jingoism.
Report Post »Its not news its indoctrination and propaganda. Same if you go to Daily Kos or HuffPost. Different angles, same lies.
Bowmaster
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:31amYou are typical of the lemmings on the left……yawn.
Report Post »olddog
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:31amChristie read a couple of books on Global Warming and bought into it hook line and sinker..Also you all must remember Chris is from NJ and I have never Ever seen a True Conservative in a northern state Never… Northern GOP’s are what we call RINO… Give me One example of any northern conservative???
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:41amOld Dog
Report Post »Please don’t throw all “yankees” under the bus. You have no idea how hard it is to live in the Takers Welfare state of Konnecticut.
one years food ration like glenn says
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 8:37am@ 13th IMAN .. I lived in connecticut too for over 40 years, moved to Sebastian Florida about 3 years ago and love IT !!!… Pick up and MOVE.. Save your nerves.. lol good luck.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 9:39amA couple of years. A long couple of years. The boss says we are going to South Carolina.
Report Post »Anybody but Barry 2012 Have a great day
Mil-Dot
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 11:47amThere has to be producers in order for the leeches to take their stuff and money. So, there are patriots in every state. Who else would the takers take from?
Report Post »rflussier
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:14pmTry living in Mass for 47 years. Going to school in Amherst. Running several small businesses. And STILL maintaining solid conservative credentials.
I really believe there’s a sizable underground conservative movement even in this ultra-leftist area of the country. You can sometimes hear people trying to pick out where others fall on the political spectrum and dancing around issues until they know where the other stands. It’s very interesting.
Report Post »shimauma
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 4:03pmmcshame is a huge RINO from AZ, and he of course would be fine with reaching across to “our friends” in the mooselimb world
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:29am.
Report Post »Now Chris this guy may be a good American like you say, BUT! I don’t TRUST a muslim as far as I can Spit!!!….He might get on his lil’ rug and point his butt to the west one morning, then stand-up Camel Crazy, Hell bent on blowing something up!!!!!…..You never can tell……
MIBUGNU2
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 12:35pmAnd the libo’s are going to wake up after having a BarneyFrank
Report Post »moment and say, “I didn’t know it was this bad” ….
ClassWarFare
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:29amThis thing is bigger than you, me, or race division.
It’s about class warfare.
yougottabekidding
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:34amYour handle says it all,RACIST
Report Post »bread and circuses
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:35ammore like class welfare.
You have no class and sit on your stoop collecting welfare
Report Post »thoseontheleftwillbecast
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:43amYes, I notice you have the raised fist of the socialist marxist group. The righteous need guns to keep the leftest nuts from killing the innocent. Too bad the left wing group in norway didn’t have just one good person with a gun. Then all those children wouldn’t have been killed.
Report Post »thoseontheleftwillbecast
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 10:50amYou are right; it’s more than me and you, it’s about good and evil. You being evil are trying to take the free rights of good people away by sitting on your arse and expecting something for nothing. What God says is; if any doesn’t work, then neither shall he eat. No matter what you say on this site. You are just like the leftest hollowoodites, you are a paid whoore.
Report Post »think4myself
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 6:23pmMany things in America are about class warfar, but this, I think is about ideology, and that transcends the classes
Report Post »BigRik
Posted on August 4, 2011 at 7:29amIt must be tough for you to wake up everyday full of hatred for people you don’t know because you disagree with them politically.
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