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Chris Matthews, Barney Frank Get Testy With Tony Perkins: ‘If You Were Barney’s Father, He Wouldn’t be Gay?’

Barney Frank & Tony Perkins Clash Over Homosexuality | MSNBC, Chris MatthewsOn Thursday night’s “Hardball,” host Chris Matthews presided over, and even participated in, over a heated debate between Democratic Congressman Barney Frank and Family Research Council president Tony Perkins. The two ideological opposites clashed over gay marriage, adoption and the overarching issue of homosexuality.

The conversation started with a pointed question at Perkins, who recently said in a CNN interview that he doubts his children would end up gay due to he and his wife having taught them to interact properly as individuals. Matthews asked, “What do you mean by that? If he’s gay, he’s gay, right? What would you have to do with whether he’s gay or not?”

This is where the groundwork was laid for intense controversy between Perkins and Frank.

“When you look at the social science research, there is not conclusive evidence that this is genetic or biological. It is a complex mix of environmental factors,” Perkins responded. “And when you can control many of those environmental factors, you can teach your kids certain ways you can protect them from certain experiences and certain things that could happen to them that could lead them down a certain path.”

Barney Frank & Tony Perkins Clash Over Homosexuality | MSNBC, Chris Matthews

This, of course, was largely refuted by Frank, who disagreed vehemently that homosexuality is something that can be controlled.

“According to Mr. Perkins, it’s Dick Cheney’s fault that his daughter was a lesbian. First of all, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it, and secondly, the notion that Cheney parented in an inferior way to Mr. Perkins is an absurdity,” Frank said. “I don’t think Mr. Cheney taught his daughter to act ‘improperly’ and she became a lesbian. I know of no such evidence that the parents have an effect one way or another.”

Frank, who characterized Perkins’ ideals as “absurdity,” also said that he doesn’t know of any individual who has chosen his or her sexual orientation. He said that this is true of individuals who are both gay and straight — clearly a major difference from the sentiment that Perkins was stating.

Barney Frank & Tony Perkins Clash Over Homosexuality | MSNBC, Chris Matthews

The two went on to bicker over gay marriage, homosexual adoption and plenty more.

“I believe that changing the definition of marriage is problematic,” Perkins said.

“Nothing about letting me marry Jim is going to interfere with anyone else’s ability and right to have children,” Frank later countered. “Many marriages don’t produce children. People who are beyond the age marry. People who are infertile marry.”

Watch the debate, below:

Frank, of course, has a vested interest in this issue as he is currently engaged to his longtime partner, Jim Ready. In an interview with CNN this week, the congressman showed off his engagement ring and discussed these same issues with host Erin Barnett.

Watch it, below:

(H/T: Mediaite)

Comments (189)

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  • moodtd01
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 11:55am

    In regards to Representative Frank’s comments on God telling Abraham to marry 2 women:
    God did not tell Abraham to marry another woman. In fact, before he had taken Hagar to make his heir God had told Abram that he would have an heir, and his descendants would be as numerous as the stars in the sky.Genesis 15:2-5. Then Sarai gave her maidservant Hagar to Abram for a wife. Sarai did this, not God. Genesis 16:1-4. Then God came to Abraham and covenanted with him telling him that Sarah would have a son. Genesis 17:1-20. Later on Sarah told Abraham to send Ishmael and Hagar away, God told Abraham to listen to his wife Sarah. Genesis 21:8-11.
    The point being that Sarah not God told Abraham to do this. If Sarah had trusted in the Lord to give her a son then she would not have had her husband marry her slave. For more on monogamy and polygamy in the Bible hear is an excellent short article easily read in 2-3 minutes that is more than ample to explain the situation.
    http://creation.com/monogamy-bible-one-man-woman
    As for homosexuality, anyone who is not clear that the Bible is against that sinful practice is either a liar, ignorant, or does not care.
    Furthermore, anyone who is against biblical morality, principles, and laws to guide our nation stand for the destruction of it. I for one am tired of tiptoeing around the situation. One Nation, Under GOD! The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Jesus Christ is the Founder of our national blessings. Maranatha! A

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    • moodtd01
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 12:08pm

      Furthermore, every bit of research, book, article, etc. I have seen on homosexuality has pointed to the fact that environmental factors do matter. In fact, the most common attribute shared by GLBT people is that they were abused (sexually, physically, verbally, emotionally) and/or did not have a stable home with a mommy and a daddy when they were children. The “gay gene” hypothesis was disproven scientifically about the same time that the msm hyped belief in it to the world. Now people who agree with homosexuality point to people being “born that way”, with absolutely no proof other than several non-scientific articles, and television programs saying it is true.

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    • Detroit paperboy
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 12:11pm

      If Barney Frank had a on, he’d look like Elmer Fudd……

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    • fastfacts1
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 12:47pm

      DID YOU SEE THAT PELOSI IS NOW SAYING THAT GAY MARRIAGE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ELECTION. If she is saying this than thanks, we will take the election and you can fight for gay marriage. Here is her comments: http://tiny.cc/5wk5dw (Under the US House Category)

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 1:31pm

      moodtd01
      This failure, homosexuality, probably has several different reason/causes (Confusion, regression, Adonis complex, grooming, abuse, …).

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 1:35pm

      and you know Barney…it’s very normal for your boyfriend to be running a brothel from your apartment and you know nothing about it…..

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    • REBELWITHACAUSE
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 2:00pm

      @MOODTDO1 – very well said. However… I will tell you all… WHY there is this disgusting debauchery among our society today (and let’s not forget, this lifestyle was running rampant in sodom and gemorrah, and if you’re bright at all, you know what happened to them). It’s quite possible, God could see that, if they continued the way they were, at the rate they were going, mankind(even the innocent) would have been wiped from the earth by AIDS. Let‘s not forget that God’s plan for all mankind, will prevail. But… now… WHY is this disgusting lifestyle back and running rampant? It’s SATAN, folks. God created “marriage”. It was through this covenant that a family could come forth… an institution that God loves and wants for his creation. But Satan HATES this with all his being. He knows what the “family” pictures. It’s what HE could NEVER have. He‘s working feverishly to destroy the family with all he’s got. When the family breaks down, or is not working properly, the children suffer, and they become sponges to whatever is out there… physical and spiritual. Satan is the prince of the power of the air, the god of this world. Satan fills the minds of the vulnerable with whatever they will accept. If everyone understood the real power of Satan, there’d be no debate about what causes homosexuality. God doesn’t make mistakes. First and foremost, OBEDIENCE to God’s laws, with fervent prayer for healing of the mind, BAM…. no more gay. It IS tha

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    • encinom
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 2:17pm

      You wing nuts do realize that the Bible is not a law book. Your bible based reasons to oppose same sex marriage, is nothng not relevant (we are not a Theocracy) and only proves that you would use a book that calls for honor killing to justify your bigotry.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 2:36pm

      ENCIDIOT…you forgot to put- (stamps foot and pouts) -at the end of your post.

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    • moodtd01
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 3:21pm

      @Rebelwithacause,
      I understand that as well. Satan/Lucifer/Devil can only corrupt that which God has created. He cannot create anything himself. Thus, gay marriage rather than traditional marriage. I also have a personal belief that many homosexuals were created by God to not have much interest in sex at all. The problem lies in our hypersexualized “civilized” culture. When these people who are not really attracted to the opposite sex talk to someone, read a book, etc. they suddenly discover that they are gay. That is of course if they do not believe in and trust in the Lord and his truths. So instead of being great ambassadors for Christ, they become filthy and wicked, performing abominations instead of bringing blessings.

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    • johnjamison
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 3:42pm

      monicne you do realize that marriage is an institute of religion an it existed before there was government…….the government is intruding on religion when it intrudes on marriage. Any law that approves gay marriage is UNCONSTITUTIONAL unless the religion approves it…..MARRIAGE IS OUR WORD LIKE THE N WORD IS THE BLACKS WORD.

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    • ComradeAdam
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 7:22pm

      I read a study that 98% of homosexuals admit to having sex before they were 19 yrs old, 45% admit to having been raped. I think homosexuality is a coping mechanism for many to deal with their traumatic sexual experiences. They are pushed into a filthy perverted world then taught ‘you must have wanted this, cause what did you do to stop it?’ Case in point: The story on Kevin Jennings, Obama’s safe school czar.( A 15 yr old boy comes into Kevin Jennings office to tell him an old man had sex with him in a bathroom. Kevin Jennings says, ‘I hope you thought to use a condom.’)
      Suicidal thoughts and emotional instability are common in GLBT and you wonder why? I think they should be pitied and helped.

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    • Bonzo
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 7:27pm

      This is simply changing the definition of the word. If you look back at old dictonaries they define that marriage is a union between a man and a women. Today it has other defintions that they want to include such as a union between two people. Mr. Perkins is correct that they change this and then shove it down our childrens throats at school. Also he is correct that we are defining society for the few and not the majority. This is just so unnatural.

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    • wayner4162
      Posted on May 13, 2012 at 3:29pm

      If you attend movies, buy videos, magazines or any other thing produced in Hollywood or the entertainment industry, you should give some very serious thought to the fact that the people in Hollywood and the rest of the entertainment industry support with millions and millions of dollars, the cause of the communist socialist politicians and their movement to destroy our nation.
      If you attend any professional sports functions such as boxing, baseball, football, basketball or watch TV channels that air these sports events you are in need again of giving very serious thought to the fact that many, many of the players and coaches give millions to the communist socialist politicians who are ever closer to destroying our nation.
      Political correctness is thought control by way of fear of retribution in the schools, work place, in public institutions, and many other places where their used to be what was known as freedom of speech. Evil is good and good is evil, this is the idea behind political correctness it is subversive and evil of itself.
      Speak your mind, but more importantly BOYCOTT Hollywood movies or other products and BOYCOTT professional sports events in protest to the leftist socialist-communist movement in this country, take the money you would spend, and spend it on supporting ways to save our constitution, our government, freedom and our way of life.

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  • geewhiz1962
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 11:31am

    Elmer Fudd speaks and………. who cares

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  • westtitus
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 11:18am

    If you saw you male dog hunching another male dog does that seem natural to you? Not to me, but I guess we are not as smart as dogs so I guess anything goes. It is wrong and every one knows it, whether you are a Christian, Buddist, or any other religion. Wrong is wrong no matter how you slice it. The 1st Chapter of Romans pretty much says it all, for you that don’t know this is in the Bible in the New Testament.

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    • Best_Patriot
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 11:38am

      Leviticus also says “no hair cuts,” but I guess we’re just ignoring that one, eh?

      PS, how does one dog “hunch” another one?

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    • sWampy
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 12:28pm

      It doesn’t say cutting your hair is a sin and wrong, it says to not cut your hair for as a demonstration of your willingness to sacrifice personal comfort to show your commitment to becoming a better person. Homosexuality on the other hand it clearly marks as a sin because even 2000+ years ago, mankind had already figured out what caused it, that it wasn’t good for society and should be discouraged for the greater good of mankind.

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    • Best_Patriot
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 12:39pm

      Wrong.

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 12:59pm

      @BEST_PATRIOT

      Dude, you just got Biblically PWND and your response is “Wrong”? Ha ha ha ha ha.

      There’s the most intellectual argument ever…… Thanks for the laugh. Ha ha ha ha ha

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 1:13pm

      HORSIE…talk to a rabbi about that stuff, it is not mormative to Christians.
      And why are you still not putting yourself in your picture? Are you shy about being a horse’s arse?

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 1:28pm

      Best_Patriot

      Leviticus also says “no hair cuts,” but I guess we’re just ignoring that one, eh?
      ***
      “The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose”
      - Antonio in “The Merchant of Venice”, written by William Shakespeare

      The devil or someone like him

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    • REBELWITHACAUSE
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 2:02pm

      @BEST_PATRIOT – you really need to get a clue… REALLY!!!

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    • charles116
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 3:01pm

      I know. They prefer the human leg, a stuffed animal, a bunched up towel.

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    • t_sotello
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 3:19pm

      Everyone has their own opinions of wrong. On monday it was reported that china doesnt think it is wrong to use dead baby flesh in their energy pill. So wrong is wrong however you slice it.

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    • edwest70
      Posted on May 12, 2012 at 4:26am

      The advantage of the Christian is that he can point to any of the myths as evidence, and discount any of the others that he doesn’t agree with, claiming traditions of the time.

      Take the whole pill, sheep. If that God were real, he’d burn you and your alter down for discounting portions of his holy text.

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    • WWFSMD
      Posted on May 12, 2012 at 10:43am

      Leviticus 3:1-17 (Procedure for animal sacrifice)

      Leviticus 19:19 (No mixed fabrics in clothing)

      Leviticus 19:27 (Don’t trim hair or beard)

      Leviticus 19:28 (No tattoos)

      Leviticus 20:9 (Death for cursing father or mother)

      Leviticus 20:10 (Death for adultery)

      Leviticus 20:13 (Death for gay men)

      Leviticus 20:15 (Death for bestiality)

      Leviticus 20:18 (No sex with a woman on her period)

      Leviticus 21:17-23 (Ugly people, lame, dwarfs, not welcome on altar)

      Leviticus 25:45 (Strangers can be bought as slaves)

      Who owns who with bible verses now?

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  • Qtaug
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 11:16am

    We need to change the language too!
    Noun . sodomist – someone who engages in anal copulation (especially a male who engages in anal copulation with another male) bugger, sodomite, sod degenerate, deviant, deviate, pervert – a person whose behavior deviates from what is acceptable especially in sexual behavior

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  • leekennedyfff
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 11:12am

    Chris, Chris, Chris….are you still feeling that “Thrill” up your leg? Your “Olbermann’s angry little brother” routine is getting stale…

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  • leekennedyfff
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 11:11am

    Chris, Chris, Chris….are you still feeling that “Thrill” up your leg? Your “Olbermann’s angry little brother” routine is getting stale… http://faithfamilyfreedom.com/is-msnbc-a-racist-network/

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  • bsnrn98
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 11:05am

    When you go against God’s rules, things don’t go well. Hey folks, it’s Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. ALL will stand before God in judgement.

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    • WWFSMD
      Posted on May 12, 2012 at 10:40am

      Hey Folks, Adam and Eve NEVER EXISTED so stop using that as an excuse to mask your hate and ignorance.

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  • DrKev
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:51am

    best patriot ur not advocating a double standard are u?

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  • glassaudioguy
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:43am

    I doubt that a lot of gay people actually choose that lifestyle, but I do know there are things which potentially contribute, at least in males- mom wears the pants in the family or a cold, distant father. I knew an example of the latter in high school. Those aren’t the only influences, of course.

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  • deleeuw
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:40am

    I just hope that the President will have the courage and open-mindedness to endorse bestiality. Late last year, a Senate subcommittee voted to lift the military’s ban on sodomy and bestiality, so the President should embrace and celebrate it!

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    • AirborneVet
      Posted on May 13, 2012 at 6:13pm

      Actually only the specific reference to beastility was deleted from the UCMJ. It was just a legal technicality. There are several other provisions of the UCMJ which can be used to punish anyone who engages in such behavior. I can understand your confusion though with the homosexuality/beastiality thing, kinda cut from the same cloth.

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  • RightUnite
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:32am

    Uuuuuggghhhh! I’m going to vomit now… Thanks!

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  • The_Jerk
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:28am

    Homosexuality is a developmental aberration not unlike zoosexuality. In the 1970‘s it was removed from mental disorders by the APA’s under political pressure, not scientific pressure.

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    • Ed_Kel
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:47am

      Agreed. I believe homosexuality is a mental disorder. Look at Mr. Frank and try to tell me that he doesn’t have a testosterone imbalance!? You can get diagnosed with anxiety if your serotonin is imbalanced but can‘t be diagnosed with homosexuality because society tells you that it is perfectly acceptable to walk around craving the very organ that’s between your legs? Then the ones that do point out the blatantly obvious are pointed out as hateful evangelists that don’t deserve the air they breathe by the very people that preach peace and love for everyone! I’m rambling though nevertheless, I don’t get it. What has society come to…

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    • Best_Patriot
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 11:18am

      Zoosexuality and beastiality are legal in Texas. No wonder Glenn likes it there so much!

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    • Kenny_in_Indiana
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 1:11pm

      I have come to the conclusion that Pat is immature as hell.

      I don’t know what the big deal with “the gays” getting married. Why do they want to do it? Is it simply for contractual reasons? Insurance reasons? OR, is it imposing your views and beliefs on the masses. Ya know, making a mountain out of a mole-hill. Sounds like typical, liberal, B.S. to me. Why is it such a big deal?

      I don’t know any “gays” on a personal level, because I don’t have anything in common with them. I don’t believe in their morals, so therefore, I don’t have anything in common. The ones I do know are ridiculously petty and, to be honest, bigger bitches than any woman I know. And the first thing they cry out if something they don’t agree with happens to them, is that it happened because they are gay. It simply makes me shake my head.

      Finally, why the flamboyance? I am proud to be a white male, but I don’t run around reminding everyone to notice me because I am a white male. I just don’t get the mindset. Maybe I should go to a state funded university to get my edumucation.

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    • AirborneVet
      Posted on May 13, 2012 at 6:17pm

      Kenny, I would say that it is more that the 1% that are gay are trying to impose their views on the masses, saying otherwise would only obscure the real issue.

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  • barber2
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:26am

    Is that Barney or Mr. Magoo ?

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  • RJJinGadsden
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:26am

    Little Miss Chrissy is just about to step out of the closet any day now.

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  • Steve28
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:24am

    I believe most of the time it is not a choice. I’ve seen young kids I and my wife, a school teacher, thought would grow up gay and it was confirmed at a later age. I still do not believe in gay marriage, but some form of social contract.

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    • dhp118c
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 11:06am

      I’m with you Steve, My brother is gay and my mother knew it when he was just 5 years of age. I have a brother in law as well whose family knew at an early age. I do believe in many if not all its a biological situation. However, I do believe the word and definition of “Marriage” should remain the union of one man and one women. Use another term to describe a male to male or visa versa union.

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    • MrNirom
      Posted on May 12, 2012 at 12:13pm

      There would be very little resistance to the union between gay couples being called anything other than MARRIAGE. Call it garriage and have all the same rights and powers be given to homosexual couples as it is for heterosexual couples. Just leave the name and definition of MARRIAGE alone.

      The core values of society and the perpetuation of the human species depends solely upon the union of a man and woman. MARRIAGE.. as it was created under God, was between man and woman. The word MARRIAGE represents that God blessed and created union. Any changes to the basic concept is a slap in the face to God. If God had desired that gays be married, he would have included this type of relationship from the beginning. But he did not.

      So as a society we have become and are acting in complete discord to God’s laws and commandments. To cower to society‘s dismissal of God’s laws is an accountable act.

      Because God gave mankind the free agency to sin or not sin, we might not stop this movement that corrupts God’s laws, but we can sure fight it. And at least we can do is stop them from calling their union of same sex couples as MARRIAGE. It is not MARRIAGE they are entering into.. as that union is between a man and woman. Their union is Garriage!

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    • Whiteeagle
      Posted on May 12, 2012 at 9:16pm

      Your ‘observation’ kinda proves the ‘environmental’ argument … If you think something could be a certain way, maybe it will be… If you treat somebody a certain way, maybe they will be that way …. I also knew some ‘sissy’ boys when they were young, but in a ‘Masculine’ Environment of Christian Fellowship, they turned out married and a pretty good father. It really is a lot more simple ‘subject’ than all the intellectuallizing and psycho-babble can try to ‘deter’ from … GOD‘s Natural Law calls it a ’Perversion’ of Nature … NOT to be ‘acted on’ , if the impulse is there …. example: thou shall not ‘murder’, steal, dishonour your body, defile your ‘temple’, keep quiet when being raped, etc. etc. I‘ve seen normal young men on a military base be ’seduced‘ and eventually convinced that they’re queer, because of a lack of ‘instilled’ appropiate values. It‘s definitely a ’smokescreen’ , a ‘work’ of Satan … like Franklin Graham said; GOD Help Us !!

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  • Ed_Kel
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:24am

    I love how the incompetent liberals think that just because Obama came out in support of gays will it somehow change the fact that our Constitution states clearly the definition of marriage and 30 states have affirmed that. Get used to that pleasure rib on your finger, Mr. Frank, because in America it will never be recognized as your intended purpose.

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    • encinom
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 2:23pm

      Ed_Kel
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:24am
      I love how the incompetent liberals think that just because Obama came out in support of gays will it somehow change the fact that our Constitution states clearly the definition of marriage and 30 states have affirmed that. Get used to that pleasure rib on your finger, Mr. Frank, because in America it will never be recognized as your intended purpose.
      ______________________

      Where in the Constitution does it define marriage. This should be good.

      Wait until DOMA is repealed and Gay couples married in NY move to North Carolina and demand equal rights (14th Amendment and Full Faith and Credit Clause of the US Constitution).

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    • Ed_Kel
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 3:05pm

      My apologies as I should have been more clear. Our rights, according to the Constitution, are given to us by our Creator. The Bible clearly states that homosexuality is an abomination and thus restricting the “right” to marry “same sex”. However, whether or not it is clearly written on the federal level is irrelevant because same sex marriage is a state issue and like I said, 30 states have affirmed the definition of marriage. Whether or not DOMA is reversed (which I highly doubt) is also irrelevant because like I said, this is a state issue and a state which has amended its Constitution to define marriage has the right (and obligation) to uphold said amendment. In no way could a gay marriage from NY ever be recognized in Michigan, or any other state that has affirmed the definition of marriage, for that matter.

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    • encinom
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 5:34pm

      Ed_Kel
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 3:05pm
      My apologies as I should have been more clear. Our rights, according to the Constitution, are given to us by our Creator.
      _____________________________
      Strike Two,

      No where in the Constitution does it mention our rights coming from the Creator (thats the Declaration of Independance).

      Nor does the Constitution list the Bible as a law book, so what ever the bible says is not law. First allof the States Amendments banning same sex marriage are Unconstitutional under the eqpual protection clause of the 14th Amendment, further, they will violate the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution when legally married couples from other states demand the rights they are entitled to.

      Try to know something about US law before you speak.

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  • tennantusa
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:20am

    You are what you eat!

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  • mrsmileyface
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:08am

    And this has WHAT to do with getting America back to work. OR putting a stop to our increasing deficit and putting a budget on the table 3 1/2 years after it should of been done!

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  • MammalOne
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:08am

    When will people understand? Being gay is a choice. Just ask practically every species on the planet, they’re all choosing their sexual orientation.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:04am

    Gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay… all day every day. I’m sick of hearing about it. The “plight” of gay people in this country is least of our worries.

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    • Blazebanned
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:42am

      Gonzo, you are correct, as this is just another decoy set up by the left, to take peoples minds off of that empty suit failure in the white house.All the left has ever done is put Americans in boxes, to get what they can from the government.There are boxes of blacks, gays,hispanics, asians etc…if you chose to be boxed, please go to a country that is better suited for it, like Russia, or China, or any commie country, and gtfo of America……And be sure to take your favorite buttbuddy encinom with you….

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    • scuffy
      Posted on May 12, 2012 at 2:15am

      could not agree with you more!!!!!

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    • edwest70
      Posted on May 12, 2012 at 4:28am

      Funny, that’s what they said about the rights of black people too, but a bigot such as yourself is probably totally cool with that.

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  • Best_Patriot
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:04am

    “We’ve arrived at a point where the president of the united states is going to lead a war on traditional marriage,” Rush Limbaugh said on his show Wednesday.

    His first, second, third, and fourth wives could not be reached for comment.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:13am

      What ticket is Rush Limbaugh running on horsey?

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    • Best_Patriot
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:26am

      Mornin’, Gonzo! He’s not running, bro. But he, like Beck, is a major voice of the conservative movement (which is almost entirely populated by folks who actually find these entertainers informative). Since he’s such an important voice for the tea kook cause, I find it necessary to point out that he has no leg to stand on when it comes to talk of “traditional marriage.”

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    • barber2
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:28am

      Horsey: Rush did them separately and legally. Unlike Obama’s dad who had them all at once ! So ?

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    • Ed_Kel
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:30am

      Haha that’s funny. The problem with your statement is that divorce has absolutely nothing to do with traditional marriage being between a man and a woman.

      Run along little child and let the grown ups talk.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:33am

      BEST_PATRIOT, Let’s see, just how many marriages have all of these lefty Hollywood types had? As far as the marriages go, it takes two to tango, and all too often a failed marriage is the fault of both persons rather than just one.

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    • Blazebanned
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:37am

      Oh look,its that horses ass best _patriot aka encinom.Get a life you little douche.

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    • Best_Patriot
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:38am

      @Ed and Barb, sorry, I’m not buying it. “Traditional,“ in the sense that these ”good Christians” supposedly support, is about the sacrament. That’s what makes it sacred, right? If you want to focus on legality alone, well that just tells me you don‘t want gays to have the same rights because you’re an insecure bigot. Because honestly, it has no real effect on you otherwise. You want to teach your kids about traditional marriage and you‘re going to tell them there’s nothing wrong with getting divorced over and over and over again? Doesn’t add up man.

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    • Best_Patriot
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:45am

      @RJJinGadsden, those “Hollywood types” by and large aren’t anti-gay marriage. Who cares how many divorces they get. But fat gas bags going on about how gay marriage is destroying the American family when the gas bag himself has had many wives well, that’s the definition of hypocrisy.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:56am

      Well, you’ve convinced me Horsey, I won’t be voting for Rush this time around.

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    • Ed_Kel
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:57am

      @Patriot

      I’m not teaching my kids that divorce is ok by any stretch. What I am teaching them is that there are no exceptions to the rule. The rule is that your curfew is 10:00pm; no exceptions. Divorce is legal and therefore falls within the rule of law. This doesn’t mean that I will agree with it. If one day the law is changed to observe same-sex marriage then I will accept it as rule of law. The problem is that it won’t ever be accepted into law. Our Constitution will never be changed on the Federal level and the 30 states that have affirmed this topic will never change their Constitutions either. Again, stay on topic as Rush Limbaugh’s multiple wives have nothing to do with traditional marriage being between a man and a woman thus having nothing to do with this article.

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    • Best_Patriot
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 11:17am

      @Gonzo, you’re better than that man. Way to deliberately avoid the discussion.

      @Ed, I hear what you’re saying. You can’t say that it will never be changed though. History is on the side of equality.

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    • sdarbro
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 11:46am

      Hey you are clever at making your point but the two are NOT mutually exclusive. Foolhardy celebs/Radio talk show hosts are not doing marriage any favors by carelessly making vows and then divorcing 3 to 4 years later.

      I am gonna tow the liberal viewpoint that our society is at fault for the high divorce rate, by glamorizing the shallow lifestyles of single-dom and by hyper-sexualizing every aspect of modern life.

      The celebrities are the touchstones of our culture that we all reference to tap into the pulse of our society. Our youth model themselves after their lifestyles be they good or bad (mainly bad). Every Hollywood marriage that lasts over five years begins to be attacked by the waiting room rags that cannot support such dedication.

      Anyone who has endured a lasting marriage or has raised children know that the fleeting promise of celebrity is as shallow as the poorly written pages that highlight the faux-glow of an unreal existence in paradise. Being promiscuous or a ‘womanizer’ is not the wild and exciting life that Hollywood would like you to believe. Raising a family and maintaining integrity is much more rewarding and meaningful than a life as a playboy. You will never hear a celebrity mouth those words.

      So, that being said, are we to now throw out centuries of family culture to supplicate to a perverted minority of fecalphiliacs? FYI, not every conservative looks lovingly to Limbaugh. A majority of us think for ourselves. That should scare you

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    • Ed_Kel
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 12:18pm

      @Patriot

      I can say that it will never change! Over half of the states have affirmed that it won’t change!

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    • Best_Patriot
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 12:24pm

      @Ed, that’s some pretty flawed reasoning, but you already knew that.

      Whatever. I don’t care if it gets legalized or not because either way, it won’t affect me. Freakin’ conservatives man – they can’t stand to think about a gay person somewhere being happy. I just don’t get it. Bigots. That’s where their reputation comes from.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 12:30pm

      Horse,

      As for those “Hollywood types”?
      Many more of them are anti gay marriage than you imagine.

      They are just too cowardly to admit their true beliefs, because they know what would happen to the chances of them being able to “work”, should they “deviate” from the “group think”.

      Horse, things are changing, and that is evidenced by you and your ilks constant presence in here, nipping at our heels. You know it’s changing, and you don’t like it, and that’s OK. It’s going to change whether you like it or not.

      Decency is making a comeback. Slowly at first, but it is happening. Immorality has had it’s day, and most are sick to death of it. Can’t you see it? I can.

      Better days ahead.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 12:37pm

      You are the one avoiding the argument my friend, this story has absolutely nothing to do with Rush.

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 12:40pm

      Horse,

      Why does it require a piece of paper with one specific word on it to be happy?

      Is a civil union with all legal benefits attached to it not enough?

      If not, why?

      Wasn’t it liberals that once claimed that marriage itself was a useless institution?

      Just shacking up was the “In thing” man. They didn’t need the “norms” of the “mans” societal rules.
      Libs didn’t need no piece of paper to prove their love.

      Why the sudden desire for that piece of paper? Why the need for the word marriage?

      Of course we all know the real answers to those questions, but will you be horse enough to openly admit those reasons?

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 1:08pm

      @BEST_PATRIOT

      Marriage is not a “sacrament”. Good lord, you have just enough religious knowledge to be dangerous. Marriage is “sanctified” and invented by God. The first institution created by God. A “sacrament” is something catholics and some protestants do for reasons you would have to ask them about.

      Besides, Rush has been Tradiationally married 4 times. At least he was married to women. I’m also pretty sure Rush has never claimed to be the shining example of Christian living.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 1:21pm

      HORSIE….can you guarantee me that if homosexual marriage is recognized at the federal level that the zealously litigious homosexual lobby won’t sue every church and enterprise in sight that-as per their conscience- cannot do business with or accomodate homosexuals in their fantasies about being normal?
      Because I have seen nothing..NOTHING..that will convince me that the spiteful, b#tchy little homosexual lobby won’t attempt to litigate every church and enterprise in the land into submission to their agenda if ever they fantasies are ratified at the federal level.
      So yes…at that point they‘re affecting peoples’ live negatively. Don’t for an instant expect me to believe otherwise because the evidence defeats any defense you would have of the spiteful, venomous homosexual lobby. Any business that says out of concscience they cannot do business with them they immediately launch online campaigns and legal assaults to put them out of business. “Live and let live” works only one way to militant homosexuals. Much like leftism itself. They bleat about “live and let live” but don’t you dare cross purposes with them…they’ll litigate or protest you into the dust. No wonder you keep the horse’s arse out of your picture…you resemble what comes out of it too much.

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    • Ed_Kel
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 1:29pm

      I love your hypocrisy, Patriot! Somehow you managed to call us Bigots for not supporting people in which we don’t agree with… Everything is about peace and love except toward the people who don’t agree with you, yes?

      Left wing tool.

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    • barber2
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 2:14pm

      Horsey just must be a renamed YOURSENSI … ( that’s the other part not in the photo….)

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    • encinom
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 2:19pm

      Ed_Kel
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:30am
      Haha that’s funny. The problem with your statement is that divorce has absolutely nothing to do with traditional marriage being between a man and a woman.

      Run along little child and let the grown ups talk.
      _________________
      Divorce is a sin, according to Beck we are all Catholic now.

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    • barber2
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 2:35pm

      ENCINot:No. We may be all adult Catholics, but you are just an arrogant atheist smart aleck …

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    • by faith
      Posted on May 15, 2012 at 6:21pm

      “so what if gays get married, how does it affect you?”

      The drop of the next shoe:
      Kansas town approves law barring churches from discriminating against gays

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  • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:03am

    Cwis Maffews and Bawney Fwank. Try saying that 3 times…. fast.

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  • michael48
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:03am

    next….

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  • biohazard23
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:02am

    Bawney has a ring? That means he’s the LITTLE LADY?? I think I just threw up a little……

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    • Best_Patriot
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:16am

      That wasn’t throw up, that was santorum.

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:41am

      Best_Patriot = Jim Ready

      Please, do you have to broadcast your considerable experience with it? And just how much did you spend at Zales for Bawney’s bauble?

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    • Best_Patriot
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:46am

      Sorry, Bio, I couldn’t make out your words through your gargling sounds.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 1:35pm

      Best_Patriot

      If anaI sex is natural why do you need lube?

      Per Dan Savage a Santorum is that frothy mix of lube & fecal matter that sometimes is the result of anaI sex.

      Best_Patriot there is this concept called sanitation. Most people use it to avoid fecal matter except for gays. Why is that?

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 11, 2012 at 2:46pm

      WALKABOUT….I can take your line of thought a step further.
      Over 55% of new cases of HIV each year in this country are attributed to homosexual males. Homosexual males make up less than 2% of the population. This is an over-representation of 2,750%.
      Clearly and without any shred of doubt, male homosexual sexual activity is a danger to the human species. There’s just no denying it. But I wonder if in all the “bullying” talks in our schools, this is being brought up? And of course “experimenting” is also being insinuated to school age children.

      To make matters worse, homosexuals have a find it difficult to control their compulsions. It is not uncommon for male homosexuals to have had hundreds of sex partners in their lifetimes. Promiscuity is rife within the homosexual community and dwarfs that found in the heterosexual population. I’m not even expanding on the constant outbreaks of gonhorrea and syphillis among homosexuals.

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  • Hugh Williams
    Posted on May 11, 2012 at 10:02am

    This is very troubling! For the first time in my life I agree with Barney Frank.

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