Chris Matthews on Michele Bachmann: ‘Close to a Nut Case’
- Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:40am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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One thing’s clear: Michele Bachman does not give Chris Matthews a thrill up his leg.
On his show “Hardball” on Wednesday night, the MSNBC host had two Democratic Reps. on to discuss the repeal of Obamacare. But the topic Matthews really wanted to talk about was Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN). He doesn’t like her. And he wants other to know it and agree with him.
“This kind of talk from Michele Bachmann. I don‘t know why she’s allowed to be an extremist, and everybody is coaxing on the Right, Republicans saying the President should move to the center and be reasonable and moderate, where she’s allowed to be out there as a screamer, and in many cases pretty close to a nut case,” he said to Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-FL).
So what kind of “extremist” language was Bachmann fomenting on the House floor? She was talking about how she wants to make Obama a one-term president and usher in a Republican-controlled Senate:
Here’s how Matthews responded:
So, it seems, violent, angry rhetoric now includes disagreeing with the president. Got it.
(H/T: NewsBusters)
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Comments (239)
Hugh Akston
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:20am“Republicans saying the President should move to the center and be reasonable and moderate”
Uh, no, Chris. America would like Barry to move back to Kenya and share that mud hut his brother lives in…and take Aunt Zuituni with him.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:55amGood thinkin’!
Report Post »red penny
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:18amI’ll see your Matthews and raise you 100 Bachmanns.Wasserman-Schultz folds.If this were a poker both of the nutcases would be big time losers.
Report Post »darlenekay
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:17amMy goal in life is to eliminate the Chris Matthew’s show. It is okay for him to call for the elimination or defeat of Ms. Bachmann but she cannot speak out and do her job????
Report Post »rondo
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:17amLock up Matthews,Obermann,Maher,Soros,and all the rest of the Democrat/Communist who are inciting riots and and harm to The Republican Congress,The Tea Party, plus Bachmann, Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, Malkin,and on and on with the rest of the conservative pundits.
Report Post »These hateful commies are endangering our lives and should be arrested for hate crimes and put them away to stop this hate war against the good people of America……………….
shorthanded12
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:16amPMSNBC….who??? I keep saying Wassy Shultz is the new DEMORATS talking head, shes been on the networks everyweek since the elections..Nancy molded her real well. And if Wasserman Shultz had any respect for Ms bachman she wouldnt play along with Chris “TINGLE” Matthews.
Report Post »comradekoolaid
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:16amChris, please step out of your liberal extremist cave and smell the freedom of speech in the air! It’ll do you good to stop your incessant, stream-of-unconscious rants and just b-r-e-a-t-h-e for a day or two. As for DWS, if she knew anything about the Constitution and her role in the federal govt, she‘d stand up for Michele’s right to speak freely. Extremist libs are pathetic…
Report Post »alrunner58
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:16amCome on Chris, can you change your tactic? Your so predictable lately, you use to be entertaining.
Report Post »Spawnomite
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:15amNut case?
Report Post »I thought Chris tingly leg sensation Matthews enjoys nuts?
Guerrino_P
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:13amShe’s bright, smart and… useless.
Report Post »Rashomon
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:13amthat boy done lost his mind.
Report Post »CNK
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:07amChris Matthews is one of the biggest fools on television and he’s calling other people nuts. The person whom I think is a nut is the person who pays Chris Matthew’s salary. But I also believe in free speech, so Chris can go right on collecting his salary while talking his crap.
Report Post »orcainohio
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:06amMatthews is blind to the facts as usual. Only dems voted for abamacare while dems and republicans voted to repeal.
Report Post »omigosh
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:04amChris “tingle” Matthews has become irrelevent and is not worthy of discussion. Let him fade away into oblivion, Bye bye
Report Post »Helldogger
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:03amPalin/Bachmann 2012 The Most Qualified Candidates in the Field. The only ones that know how to fight back.
Report Post »Muck Fathews
matrixdefector
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:31amI agree Palin/Bachmann 2012! Can you imagine how thier HEADS WOULD EXPLODE!
Report Post »lcam67
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:45ammy thoughts exactly……
Report Post »SecretPolice
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:52amHere, here…
Report Post »valarie
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 9:27amIf we can’t have that, Romney/Bachmann or Palin.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:34amI’d prefer Herman Cain/Palin/& or Bachmann 2012
Report Post »Helldogger
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:03amPalin/Bachmann 2012 The Most Qualified Candidates in the Field. The only ones that know how to fight back.
Report Post »Muck Fathews
SlimnRanger
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:09amI never felt in the past that this nation needed a woman president but my thinking has changed alot latley,i am very ok with having a Palin/Bauchman in the white house,these two ladies have more courage than a pitbull,so yeah i would love to see them given the chance to turn this nation around after all it’s been ages since we have had a truly good president that actually loved this nation and wanted to do what was right for We The People,and maybe they will hire meygan kelly as their press spokesman
Report Post »AFeatherAdrift
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 2:01pmOh thank you for stating my dream come true. Nothing could be better. Perhaps between the two of them, a coherent sentence might be uttered. But I doubt it. Consider the debate! But truthfully, I’ll take a debate between the two crazy ladies for the party nomination. Between them and the creationist Huck and the serial monogamist Newt, it should be a riotous event.
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 11:23pmI like Palin / Bachmann. That would really get Matthews panties in a bunch.
Report Post »Drygao
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:00amI like seeing him discredit himself by attacking only people who are conservative. The only people who listen to this hack are other liberal/progressive hacks.
Report Post »cece959
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:00amIt takes one to know one. Mind your tongue, Chris. In this day of audio and video, you won‘t be able to get a job scooping poop once you’ve exhausted yourself at MSNBC.
Report Post »DBCrader
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:58amWOW!!!! Shocking!!!! A Politician that actually talks about doing what she was elected to do, instead of whatever the hell she wants, regardless of what we think!!!!
Why is it that anyone who disagrees with these people is always branded as a “Far-Right Nut Case”???? To an idiot like Matthews, there’s only two sides… the moderate Democrats and the Extreme Right Wing!!!
Just curious… how is it that Matthews locks on to this as more hateful rhetoric, yet managed to miss yet another day full of Democrats calling us Nazi’s and comparing the repeal of this Bill to the next Holocaust???
And, just to remind everyone… this is the bunch that actually had monday morning meetings on how to sabotage the Bush Administration… Perhaps Chris would like to have a discussion on the late non-great Ted Kennedy, and his efforts to enlist the aid of the Soviets to sink Reagan’s Presidency???
Report Post »skyguy51
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:56amChris who? On what channel?
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:55amChris, Chris, Chris, Bachmann is allowed to be an extremist for the same reason that your allowed to be an idiot and on tv. It’s called freedom. Oh, I guess you think, (oh, crap) that’s right, Chris doesn’t think. Anyway I guess you think (oh crap) I did it again. I am sounding a lot like Chris ain’t I. I guess you believe (ok I finally have it) that Democrats are the only ones with the right to have your own beliefs?
Report Post »Marcobob69
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:54amMatthews and Wasserman-Schultz, now there is a “reel” pair. YUCK! It’s kind of this website to keep showing clips of Matthews, Olbermann, Madcow, Schulz(Ed), etc etc; it is the only way for people to know how much of a pain in the ass they are!!! They have a viewership of tens of people, so when they DO get shown by the big time news network, they have a tendency to get “diarrhea of the mouth”. One need look no further than Anthony “I am a” Weiner, to understand my point!!!
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:52amLet’s hope the new owners of MSNBC clean out the barking lunatics like Mathews and Olbermann.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:22amLet’s hope the new owners of MSNBC clean out the barking lunatics like Mathews and Olbermann.
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Report Post »Not gonna happen.
Comcast execs paid good money for these barking lunatics, they’re keeping them.
Carl1
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:50amWouldn’t count on Comcast doing anything. To me Comcast is as a honest as Matthews. Them and MSNBC go hand in hand.
Report Post »mamawalker
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:46amSure and the next headline we read will be …President Signs Executive Order to Silence ALL Dissenters
Report Post »mamawalker
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:48am…all in the name of national security obviously!
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:18pmHe may as well order the tides to stop coming in for all the good it would do him, or any politician.
Those kinds of stunts can only occur in disarmed societies. They dare not try it here.
Report Post »awizard
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:46amChris Who?.. MS What?.. ‘Better change the name of that show, that implies … uh, never mind …
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:24amMatthews, MSNBC….
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:29am@MIDDLECLASS.. Those are the best quotes I’ve seen in a long time… ALL of them are true and made by an obviously intelligent woman.. I’d like to know which one of the quotes that you disagree with.. Oh, all of them ? I can see the truth hurts really bad…. My advice to you ? re read the quotes… They are true and straight to the point….
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 11:09am-demint.disciple-
If you believe ANY of those quotes, then I got some suggested reading for you. But I would l-o-v-e for you to provide me with the information regarding teachers forcing students to accept ‘homosexuality and recommending that they try it. Popcorn ready!
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 11:40am@MIDDLECLASS..- “Little children will be forced to learn that homosexuality is normal and natural and perhaps they should try it.” Just the very idea of them teaching the children is saying it’s ok, Yeah force !! does the child have a say ? If the child says (which BTW we’re talking about 1st graders) I don’t want to learn about this stuff , they are taught it anyway..AND THEN the parents are called out as teaching their OWN children intolerance… Funny that you pick that quote out of all of them.. Let me guess, you’re gay and were taught about it in school, right ? you know, little jimmy has two mommies .. Yeah, it’s bad enough that they have to see that crap as they are growing up, but in School too?
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 11:48am-demint.disciple-
It’s so nice to see yet another poster assume they know exactly who the heck I am. I’ve been happily married for 6 years(to a woman, I might add). Try not projecting so much, especially about an individual you have never even met.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 12:58pm@MCP
“If you believe ANY of those quotes, then I got some suggested reading for you. But I would l-o-v-e for you to provide me with the information regarding teachers forcing students to accept ‘homosexuality and recommending that they try it. Popcorn ready!”
Illogical request. The operative words in her quote are “will be” not “are currently”. “Will be” is Future Progressive Tense, not Present Tense nor Past Tense in any form, ergo, you’ve asked him to demonstrate something that has not as of yet happened, nor has been claimed to have occurred yet. Your question is illogical.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:03pm@demint.disciple
If I may humbly offer some advice when debating Leftists?
They almost always post in the form of a logical fallacy or an illogical question or statement, in order to garner an emotional response. Their medium of debate, as it were, are emotions. They want you calling names, besmirching, generalizing and otherwise working from something other than logic. Their entire world view revolves are destroying or ignoring logic and forcing the terms of the debate to revolve around emotion.
With that as a given (for argument’s sake), it is much more profitable to give them nothing regarding an emotional response and to simply destroy the non-logic of their arguments or statements. The moment you move the post into “well, you must be“ or ”you’re a (insert name)”, they win. Not because they have a sound argument, but because they’ve forced you to their terms, terms from which there is no winning or losing the argument, only divisiveness and pettiness.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:09pmare destroying = around destroying
Report Post »beebacksoon
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:43amChris is desperate for ratings.
Report Post »IMTL
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:59amthere is a spiritual law, the bible says in Romans 2:1 judge not or you will be judged, because you do the same thing you judge. It is Chris and his libs who are really saying what they are, by what they attach. Chris and his anti christ anti american views had better bend over, cause their worst nightmare Herman the Herminator Cain is coming to a country near them soon. 2012. Repent Chris while there is still time, to get 3 or 4 more people to listen to your Hollywood show off.
exdem
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:08amChris Matthews calling someone an extremist is hysterical!! Has this guy never watched his own show?
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:13amYet Michelle Bachman and other Republicans will jump at the first opportunity to appear on his show on the bend forward network .
Report Post »Sam I am
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:15amYou can ALWAYS count on the loony lefties to tell you who they fear.
Report Post »Idahocommonsense
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:17amWhy does The Blaze keep putting stories of this idiot on? Everyone knows this guy has the IQ of a rock and the personality of a baboon’s backside. He is like my Dad used to say about President Carter “ when he fell from the stupid tree he hit every branch on the way down”.
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:17amChris is right.
Report Post »Bearded_One
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:19amI am proud to say that I voted for Michelle Bachman. She’s doing in Congress what I elected her to do. Thank you, Michelle!
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:19am-Idahocommonsense-
If that’s the case then a huge percentage of posters here are still stuck in between branches.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:19amMichelle Bachman has too much class to say that about Chris Matthews, but we don’t. Chris, the proverbial wisdom is, “when you call people names, you are really speaking about yourself”. So see, Chris, you really ought to like the skin you’re in and look unto yourself if you are going to start slinging barbs. It just keeps making you look smaller and smaller, and more insignificant than you already are.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:22amSorry, Michele Bachmann (no coffee yet).
Report Post »Idahocommonsense
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:24ammiddleclassprophet
well get out the tree then.
Report Post »Crybabyglenn
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:30amIf Mathews is desperate for ratings then he has something on common with Glenn. I was disappointed to see Glenn out trying to sell his latest book after he said he wasn’t going to promote it. Glenn is starting to wear thin always changing his direction and going back on what he says.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:40amCRYBABYGLENN, I would imagine Glenn was invited to be on the morning show, he certainly didn’t invited himself. I think the message is much more important than the delivery, so I will assume you haven’t read the book.
Report Post »79USMC83
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:41amex·trem·ist (k-str m st) n. One who advocates or resorts to measures beyond the norm, especially in politics. So believing IN and LOVING the CONSTITUTION, GOD and what the United States of America stands for is EXTREME now !!! What is EXTREME is the ones who want to FUNDAMENTALY TRANSFORM a great Nation.
TRANSFORM. transitive verb. 1. a: to change in composition or structure b: to change the outward form or appearance of .
Definition of REDISTRIBUTE
transitive verb
1: to alter the distribution of : reallocate
2: to spread to other areas
TERM LIMITS NOW !!
FAIR TAX NOW !!
Report Post »oldguy48
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:48amIf the Blazed didn’t watch him, who would?
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:53amWhat he and Debbie (and she is a blabbering idiot too) can’t stand is the TRUTH being spoken by a Representative on the floor! Go Michelle…She IS SPEAKING FOR WE THE PEOPLE…he can’t stand the fact that OUR VOICES are ringing out through Michelle! How I wish the rest of the conservatives would line up behind her!
Report Post »FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:54amMichele Bachmann for President in 2012…………………….
psst
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:56am@ Middleclass
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indy1
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:56amWhy is The Drooler allowed on television? His poor wife must be mortified by his misogynist comments.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 8:59ammiddleclassprophet, I want to end President Obama’s political career, too. The greatest country in the history of the world, known for the American Dream, does not need to be fundamentally transformed! Does he somehow think he can make it better? Big government has shown to be a failure, in one way or another, all through history. It’s no different here. They can’t even run the postal system efficiently, much less ANY other government entity, for crying out loud! Go, Michele!
Report Post »chazman
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 9:05amWhat a maroon!
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 9:09amyeah mathews know a lot about nuts. hes aa big a nut as they come. i think its time for america to rethink its renewal of this stations license. ive seen all the saul alinski commie lovers i wanna ever see in my country. its time to send losers like this packin. let them go live in russia or venezusla where they can be told what to do and how to live. its time for this skumbag to go! dont like it here ? get the hell out! your not welcome here any longer.
Report Post »Decade of Greed
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 9:12amLook. The formula is simple. If you hate conservatives, you must constantly paint them as stupid, clumsy, incompetent simpletons. Gerald Ford was a clumsy oaf, Ronald Reagan was a folksy hillbilly, George Bush was a babling illiterate, Sarah Palin is too stupid to realize whats going on and now Michelle Bachmann is a nut case. Get it? No matter who we put up for president, they will most certainly be far too stupid to run according to the left. Truth is, if you want to know who really scares these lefties, look at who they pick on the most. Stay frosty my friends.
Report Post »Polwatcher
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 9:13amChris Matthews has gradually over the years become more and more nutty. If you look back 10 years, he was probably not so bad. I believe that he even hosted Rush Limbaugh’s show one time years ago. Now he has completely lost his mind. If he could only see how bad he has become he would see a shrink.
Report Post »CanadianMan
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 9:19amagreed… He clearly doesn‘t like Michelle Bachman and I can’t believe he wastes so much time talking about her in this way.
Report Post »48
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 9:25amChris Matthews is one of the top 5 idiots in the media now. Watching the debate on CSPAN yesterday makes me wonder if these democrats slept through the last election. They are so off base saying the American people want this healthcare law it’s sickening. Michele was right when she said this is not a move just going through the motions, they are doing what the people voted them in there for.
Report Post »TexasCommonSense
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 9:30amI wonder how much longer Bill Gates will allow is legacy to be affiliated with this trash?
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 9:31amAgain we see what the empty wagons are saying.. WHY do we give them MORE face time? They can’t get viewers to go to them so we bring them to people IGNORE them.. My sister told me last night she use to watch Chris when Bush was in office..but since MSMBC as well as MSM has taken such a biased stand she no longer watches him, MSM,(except for local news which is ALSO as biased in IL)..OR for that matter CNN since LOU DOBBS was well asked strongly to change his tune or leave.. MY SISTER is a life long DEMOCRAT.. however.. even she can tell BS when she hears it and is sick of having her news censored .. Actually the right should really THANK people like Chris.. he and the others on EXTREME left are the reason for the increase of INDEPENDENTS and NEW REPUBLICANS.. LOL..
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 9:52am@middleclassprophet
-”I don‘t know why she’s allowed to be an extremist”-. Defend that kind of talk all you wan’t. It simply proves you’re an ideolouge before an intellectual. Your use of ad hominem does nothing for your arguments.
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:14amYeah Chris.. Alan Grayson ? = ok in your book ( he’s for the cause) Michellle Bachmann ? = nut case.. nice By-partisanship there, moron. BTW, suck up that dribble of drool off your bottom lip, every time I look at you my eyes go straight to your drooling lip and it’s annoying.. LAY OFF THE JACK !!!
Report Post »What the heck is Wasserman Shultz shaking her head at ? She is taking Graysons place but that is ok in MSLAD land (she’s for the cause).. pppffffttttt……
Jackers
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:14amIt would appear that Progressives are becoming more and more “extremist”… Besides, Progressives are the fringe of society; Michele Bachman and the many who support her are the ever-growing mainstream…
Get a clue, Ms. Debbie!
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:18am@MIDDLECLASSMORON… I don’t know about a huge percentage, but yeah, there are a few.. Like you , broker0101 , Totallyunbelievableguy. white tea party . yeah a few, but HUGE MAJORITY ?? Nahh !!!
Report Post »middleclassprophet
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:21amIntheKnowOG
Michelle Bachmann sample quotes:
- “Not all cultures are equal.”
- “Carbon Dioxide is portrayed as harmful. Yet there is not one study that can be produced that can show that Carbon Dioxide is a harmful gas.”
- “I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I’m not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it’s an interesting coincidence.”
- “There are hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes, who believe in intelligent design.”
- “I don‘t know where they’re going to get all this money because we’re running out of rich people in this country.”
- “Little children will be forced to learn that homosexuality is normal and natural and perhaps they should try it.”
- “Literally, if we took away the minimum wage—if conceivably it was gone—we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level.”
The woman is unstable, unbalanced and lacking of some serious common sense.
Report Post »easyed598
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:22amIf Republican Bachmann wasn`t talking about replacing Obama for President wouldn`t that be considered crazy? When the Democrats talked about having Kerry replace Bush for President was that considered nutty? (Well- maybe it was)
Report Post »Hobo Boondocks
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:31amHe has consistently violated his oath of office, “ I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” Why wouldn’t Michele Bachmann and others speak of making Obama a one-term president? Under similar circumstances, if a republican president had been doing what Obama has in circumventing the Constitution to see his plans put in place, you and your fellow democrats of the media would be leading the cry for his being a one-term president. And, asking why congressional representatives aren’t doing the same?
Report Post »Rogue
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:51amChris is so worried about the sanctity of the floor of Congress, yet why is it that he never questioned his buddy Alan Grayson about outragous statements from behind the podium? Wanting to ensure a politicain does not win another term makes her a nut-case, but Grayson claiming that republicans want people to “die quickly” is acceptable language?
Report Post »tommee
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 12:04pmMichele Bachmann without doubt is a flake.
I recently saw an interview with her and Anthony Weiner on Hannity. Bachmann objected to Weiner’s claim that the new Health Care Bill would save money over time because he was using junk numbers from the CBO. Not two seconds later to express her view, she produced, you guessed it, a chart put out by the CBO.
Now tell me. How can anyone take this woman seriously.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 12:33pmThe person from the staff of The Blaze who monitors Chris Matthews really needs to stop, you’re doubling his ratings share.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 12:40pm@TOMEE
“Michele Bachmann without doubt is a flake.
I recently saw an interview with her and Anthony Weiner on Hannity. Bachmann objected to Weiner’s claim that the new Health Care Bill would save money over time because he was using junk numbers from the CBO. Not two seconds later to express her view, she produced, you guessed it, a chart put out by the CBO.
Now tell me. How can anyone take this woman seriously.”
You apparently didn’t get the memo. It is valid to question the results of the calculator you use if the numbers you put in are invalid. That doesn’t mean that one is calling the calculator itself an invalid tool. So, one could question “Those calculations from that calculator are wrong because the numbers entered into it were the wrong numbers” and then say “these calculations from that calculator are correct, because the numbers put in to do the calculation are accurate”.
Hope that clarifies the logic for you and allows you to question those who give you your opinions with a fresh view.
Report Post »7.62AirMailComeGetIt
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:03pmthe only ratings he gets are people reporting just how ignorant he is, and one sided 2 dems to blast a republican,
how about you get 2 (R) to talk about her?????
Report Post »tommee
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:24pmHey GHOSTOFJEFFERSON… Thanks for your comment.
Your calculator analogy falls short. The CBO is set up as an independent body to actually collect it’s own data for analysis.
It is not, as you suggest, a inanimate calculator waiting for external sources to input data. If this were true, it would be useless for all parties. It would have no function whatsoever. Everyone would simply put their own numbers in to get the results they want. Are you suggesting to abolish it because it is not objective? If so, what would you replace it with?
As it stand now, the CBO is the closest thing Americans have to measure what is actually happening and what will most likely happen in the country.
Report Post »AnnMarie
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:27pmSo that makes him a really, tickle down the pants nutcase??? Once again, the name calling goes on…
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:34pm@TOMEE
“Your calculator analogy falls short. The CBO is set up as an independent body to actually collect it’s own data for analysis.”
It doesn’t just go out and start analyzing willy nilly. It is tasked by individuals or entities to produce a result based on data they provide. It is not an investigative body, it can only work with what numbers it is given or uncovers in the materials provided.
“It is not, as you suggest, a inanimate calculator waiting for external sources to input data. If this were true, it would be useless for all parties.”
It is, and it is. And that’s why everybody can produce different numbers for the same legislation, any legislation, from it. Hence the source of this very debate about Obamacare, where both sides cite the CBO who provides calculations based on known numbers (where one or both parties can omit, cover up, or fail to provide numbers).
“It would have no function whatsoever. Everyone would simply put their own numbers in to get the results they want.”
Which is what generally occurs. See above.
“Are you suggesting to abolish it because it is not objective? If so, what would you replace it with?”
Straw man. I made no such suggestion, nor implied any such thing.
“As it stand now, the CBO is the closest thing Americans have to measure what is actually happening and what will most likely happen in the country.”
If so we’re in a heap of trouble, it has rarely if ever even come within a mile of actual costs, for better or worse, for any given program it’s been asked to analyze. I don’t fault the CBO, as DC is a political arena where all parties like to hide the things that don’t help them from it.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:44pmAllow me to clarify.
The CBO can only work with numbers given to it. If Person A asks for the costs of Bill B, the CBO can only use the numbers present in Bill B in order to give the calculation. If Bill B only contains generalities and doesn’t list specific departments, costs or some way to trace costs, then the CBO is severely limited.
This means that something like Obamacare, which I think everybody agrees was both huge AND rather vague, can have one set of numbers come out a year ago, and a completely different set of numbers come out today now that some some more costs are known. The CBO in that case would issue two sets of estimates. One would be correct, one would be closer to correct (presumably). The person who thus cites “CBO numbers A are wrong” and then “CBO numbers B are correct/better estimate” is making a legitimate statement.
Report Post »anOpinion
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:49pmThe only way she is close to a nut case is if she’s standing next to him.
Report Post »AFeatherAdrift
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:56pmIMTL: That wouldn’t be judging now would it? ROFL…
Report Post »What-A-Joke
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 2:03pmYou know, they would add at least a sliver of credibility to their cause if they did not say EVERY republican, tea party member, or any one who believes in the constitution or God, were ALL stupid, ignorant hicks clinging to their gods and guns!
http://www.clubseabreeze.com/TimPhillips/indexnew.html
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 2:22pmBachman says a lot of strange things, like this one tying Obama to the swine flu, and of course denying it in the same sentence (then, like, why say it at all?):
“I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I’m not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it’s an interesting coincidence.” -Rep. Michele Bachmann, on the 1976 Swine Flu outbreak that happened when Gerald Ford, a Republican, was president, April 28, 2009
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 2:37pm@JZS
In that quote she immediately states that Obama is not to blame. She’s noting correlation not causation, and is up front about it. There is nothing dishonest in what she said, it was factual, and she absolved any parties of any blame. In short, big whoopdie do.
Report Post »streetrodder
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 3:52pmHay Middleclasspropht. Why dont you bring out some Joe Biden quotes, then we can all have some good laughs.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 4:45pmGhostofJefferson, I think it’s interesting that when you were about 15 years old some young boys were molested in your town and they never found the person who did it. I’m specifically not saying it was you, I’m just saying it is an interesting coincidence.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 4:49pm“I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back. Thomas Jefferson told us ‘having a revolution every now and then is a good thing,’ and the people — we the people — are going to have to fight back hard if we’re not going to lose our country.” -Rep. Rep. Michele Bachmann, March 2009
Let’s assume she meant that metaphorically.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 4:54pmin march of 2013 we have a special place for chrissy at the gitmo re- education center along with lots of his friends…
Report Post »tommee
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 5:50pmHey GHOSTOFJEFFERSON… Thanks again.
But you’re just making excuses for a lightweight.
During the Bachmann/Weiner interview on Hannity, Weiner was using the ‘latest’ CBO report on healthcare to counter the false ramblings of Bachmann. She immediately dismissed the CBO report as garbage in garbage out in favor of her own fictitious fantasies which were based on nothing but her own beliefs.
Though she was quick to reject the CBO’s most recent conclusions, she didn’t think twice about using a CBO chart to support her own agenda seconds after her rejection of the CBO.
Again I say. How can anyone take this woman seriously?
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 5:54pm@middleclassprophet
1) True 2) True 3) Irrelevant 4) True 5) True 6) Perhaps (nature vs. nurture) 7) True ; Your last sentence is perspective based, assumptive ad hominem.
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 6:01pm@tommee
“Your calculator analogy falls short. The CBO is set up as an independent body to actually collect it’s own data for analysis.”
Blatant lie. The CBO does not collect data. It compounds data provided to it from Congress. Also, you meant to say WAS set up as an independent body. The chief of the CBO was called to the ivory tower for a conference with “the ONE” when the reports came out that the CBO determined the job killing bill was a budget buster. They reworked the numbers after the meeting (surprise) and it came out (magically) deficit neutral. Try budgeting your business forecast using 10 years of profits and only 6 years of costs. That’s how they “reworked” the numbers. Garbage in=Garbage out is exactly what GHOST was saying. He’s 100.00 percent correct and you are 100.00 incorrect.
Report Post »IntheKnowOG
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 6:04pm@jzs
So using the terms: armed, dangerous and reveloution justify violence? Damn, I guess you better start going after Hollywood, Authors, Musicians, etc. Hell, let’s just burn all the books that have those words in them. We should start with the Constitution, perhaps, the !st Amendment?
Report Post »hempstead1944
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 7:02pmNo……just desperate. Kinda sad to see this cockroach in sunlight…..turning out to be really ugly.
Report Post »tommee
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 9:27pmHey INTHEKNOWOG & GHOSTOFJEFFERSON … Thanks for the correction!
I knew I had made a mistake about the CBO as soon as I clicked the post button. I’m glad I can say I learned something here.
Nevertheless, Bachmann still comes off as a hypocrite with her doublespeak on the CBO.
Thanks again.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 10:05pmIntheKnowOG, hello. I just quoted Bachmann in a speech to her constituents. I didn’t suggest I have a problem with any individual word in the English language. It’s more the way you string words together in a sentence.
Personally I read Bachmann’s quote, and don‘t feel the need to rush out and be dangerous especially since I’m not from Minnesota. But if you want to know how some people are affected by this kind of language Google “Byron Williams Tides”.
“I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back. Thomas Jefferson told us ‘having a revolution every now and then is a good thing,’ and the people — we the people — are going to have to fight back hard if we’re not going to lose our country.” -Rep. Rep. Michele Bachmann, March 2009
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on January 20, 2011 at 11:03pmChris is a looser who seems to suffer from running mouth disease. That is when the mouth runs on and on saying stupid stuff with no seeming rational thought. Everyone at MSNBC seems to suffer from this. I‘m sure he can’t help himself, sad looser.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on January 21, 2011 at 12:38am@EXDEM
My thoughts exactly!
Don’t you love the way the Progressives are so mannerly in expressing their hate? Bachmann is so much smarter and has so much more class than Chris Tingle that he absolutely cannot stand her.
You would think that the Progressives would tone it down, for the sake of their own party, wouldn’t you? But, nooooooo! They have to show their immaturity with their schoolyard mentality.
Report Post »Mikeyyy
Posted on January 21, 2011 at 2:22amDefinitely desperate for ratings. At this point, the American voters have spoken loud and clear in 2010. The dems and current whitehouse imo probably pay off msnbc in some way shape or form. They probably pay Lib Commentors to post on theblaze.com too, for propaganda and damage control.
The progressives have deep pockets and will do everything they can to sway the voter masses to regain election seats.
If no one is watching their propaganda shows, which I never do, then an audience of 1 viewer is irrelevant. They need shock statements, attack statements, and censorship of those that oppose them, especially if they are getting very high ratings, which Rush, Beck, etal obviously have.
Report Post »MPWIFE
Posted on January 21, 2011 at 7:55amWow, sad. The really sad thing though is that I am not even shocked, as Americans we are becoming so hardened and hateful that speech like this is not shocking, in fact it happens all day every day all across this Country. My husband is willing to fight and die for our freedom, and our right to free speech, it almost seems as if the days of the Alien and Sedition Acts are on the way back. No Thank You! Too many men and women have died to protect our rights. To talk about someone in that fashion and say they are using violent and angry rhetoric, when all they did was disagree with Obama, seems a bit much unless we are no longer truley free?
Report Post »ozz
Posted on January 21, 2011 at 5:58pmRon Paul/Bachmann 2012 presidency!!!!
Report Post »Any one who does not agree with the left is stupid or crazy according to the ********. Who falls for this crap anymore?