Hindu, Buddhist & Muslim Religious Leaders Invited to 9/11 Tribute Event — But No Evangelicals?
- Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:32am by
Billy Hallowell
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Southern Baptist Convention President Frank Page
The head of the Southern Baptist Convention is asking President Barack Obama to reconsider attending a September 11 commemorative event at Washington National Cathedral. Why, you ask?
The planned observance of the 10th anniversary of America’s worst terror attack will include the Bishop of Washington, a Hindu priest, a Buddhist nun, the president of the Islamic Society of North America and a Muslim musician – but not an evangelical Christian. This exclusion has caused SBC President Frank Page to call upon the president to reconsider his presence at the event.
Washington National Cathedral
Obama is slated to speak at a “secular” program on Sunday night. According to reports, five faith leaders are scheduled to deliver prayers, but these individuals have not yet been publicly identified.
Considering evangelical Christianity’s influence in America, it’s interesting that the event, entitled “A Call to Compassion,” will exclude this large subset of the faith. According to Fox News, Page has voiced his frustrations:
“It’s not surprising. There is a tragic intolerance toward Protestants and particularly toward evangelicals and I wish the president would refuse to speak unless it was more representative.
I think it would send a very strong and very positive signal to the left wing extremists in our country that the president ought not show up.”
Christian leader Tony Perkins (head of the Family Research Council) reiterated these statements, also claiming that the exclusion is unacceptable:
“Three quarters of the American people identify as Christian and nearly a third of them are evangelical Christian. And yet, there is not a single evangelical on the program.
There’s no doubt that this is clearly politically correct. It is historically inaccurate that in times of need or mourning that Americans pray to the Hindu or Buddhist Gods or the God of Islam. America is overtly a Christian nation that prays to the Judeo-Christian God – and specifically to Jesus Christ.”
But the Cathedral claims that there is nothing sinister in its exclusion of evangelicals. Richard Weinberg, the director of communications for the Cathedral, claims that the goal was to have interfaith representation and that the church’s own involvement balances the need for Christian representation:
“The Cathedral itself is an Episcopal church and it stands to reason that our own clergy serve as Christian representatives.
We certainly aim to appeal to as many in the country as possible and feel that our events are not any one slice that could ever represent the entire country — but that we are doing our best commemorate the events as it fits with our mission.”
So far, no official response has come from the White House and all signs point to the president ignoring Page’s plea. Regardless of intentions, this could create — or further perpetuate — the perception that the president is not sympathetic to evangelical causes and concerns.
That said, this event is private in nature and Obama has been invited as a guest. Considering that his administration doesn’t have control over the guest list, perhaps most will simply blame the Cathedral (and not the president) for refusing — at least until this point — to include evangelical Christians in the commemorative mix.
(h/t Fox News)
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Comments (411)
conservative_teacher
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:05pmBoo-Hoo. Get over it.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:27pmThe judeo-christian God is also the muslim God-and no amount of lying anti-muslim genocidal thin skinned [didn't God tell these people we can act in the world with impunity and only we have the right to kill civilians-how dare these uppity muslims not subcibe to our view of ourselves] american revisionistm will change that fact. It is atrrocious that protestants are not included.
capecodsully
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:34pmROSEELLEN – allah is not the God of Israel, whose son is Jesus the Christ. allah is a demon.
Report Post »Coach54
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:37pmThe God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is not the god of Islam. Their god is known as the god of this world.
Report Post »SLEUTH
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:38pmCONSERVATIVE_TEACHER – what are you trying to say? if you really are a ‘teacher’ make it clear.
Report Post »is it ‘boo hoo’, (too bad, im stuck with it), ‘get over it’ or what?
BacktotheFounders
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:54pmRose-Ellen, the Muslim god tells his followers to behead people, to cut off their hands for stealing, and to stone them for adultery. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob says to “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” How can you possibly believe that these two beings are one and the same?
Have you really thought about it?
Report Post »conservative_teacher
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:56pmActually, Slueth, it‘s more like who gives a rat’s ass. This is just more Blaze non-news worthy religious propaganda and hypocrisy. If the situation was reversed and it was only Muslims that we’re not invited, there would be a thread of comments congratulating the decision.
momprayn
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:02pmRose – With all due respect, I believe you have stated on past posts that you are a “Christian” – Catholic. Sorry if I’m wrong…but —- nevertheless, your “knowledge” about this is false and you need to recheck more thoroughly if you really care. However, I’ve noticed there are many other Christians who think that. No – that’s what they want you to believe. Check the Scriptures about us being warned about believing any other gospel than the one given in the Bible (non-Catholic btw) – Galatians 1:8,9 even if an “angel of heaven” tells you differently. Satan can appear as an “angel of light” (2 Corinthians 11:14, 15). The founder, Muhammad got his “revelations” from an “angel” – which told him the Bible was incorrect/incomplete and gave him the demonic religion of Islam b/c this was a demonic angel. It contradicts many biblical stories – the bedrock one being the story about Isaac and Ishmael. Muslims claim God’s blessings were to Ishmael; Jews claim Isaac (which is the true one). Muslims came from Ishmael’s descendents. The God of the Jews/Christians INCLUDE a “Messiah”, a “triune God” – Father, Son (Jesus), and Holy Spirit. Jews just don’t believe Jesus was the one; Christians do. Muslims only believe Jesus was a good prophet. As for America – please get over your hatred – maybe we’re wrong intervening in SOME wars but are the only source for “good”, financial, militarily, spiritually in the world that God blessed in our Founding.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:11pm@Mom
“Check the Scriptures about us being warned about believing any other gospel than the one given in the Bible (non-Catholic btw) – Galatians 1:8,9 even if an “angel of heaven” tells you differently. Satan can appear as an “angel of light” (2 Corinthians 11:14, 15). The founder, Muhammad got his “revelations” from an “angel” – which told him the Bible was incorrect/incomplete and gave him the demonic religion of Islam b/c this was a demonic angel.”
Honestly, replace “Muhammad” with “Joseph Smith” and “Islam” with “Mormon/LDS” and you have the Christian religion Glenn Beck follows. The only contention between the two in your statements would be how “demonic” the angel Moroni is compared to whatever angel Muhammad had visiting.
Not really disagreeing with you, but just showing that such open statements can apply even to Christian sects. Heck, I wouldn‘t be surprised if those of the Jewish faith didn’t feel the same about Christianity in general.
SLEUTH
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:20pmCONSERVATIVE_TEACHER – HA you re no teacher, you re an A-hole. now your comments make sense. when the S*its hits the fan, i hope you get it all. oh BTW, get your head from up their
Report Post »A** maybe if you can breath you can think better or NOT. A-H. i dont believe in abortion, but you would be an exception.
Rational Man
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:21pmIf you guys would recognize rose-ellen for the troll that it is and not entertain it and give it attention, it might go away……Just a thought………
Report Post »On Eagle Wings
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:23pmRose Ellen…..the Muslims have to die for their god, in Christianity, Our God died for us
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:24pmHey Sully, kudos brother. I’m sick people saying we all worship the same God.
Report Post »hi
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:25pmThe religions who worship satan were invited to the interfaith meeting. That is why Christians were not invited!
Locked
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:32pm@Hi
“That is why Christians were not invited!”
… as it’s taking place in a Christian cathedral, and a bishop is showing up, I‘m thinking you didn’t quite read the article. Evangelical sect leaders weren’t invited; and assuming the bishop is Episcopal, neither were Catholic leaders, who make up by far the largest denomination of Christians in the US (and worldwide).
Christians are in attendance.
Report Post »hi
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:40pmConservative Teacher
Report Post »You care more about punctuation than freedom. You obviously are ignorant of history or you wouldn’t buy into socialism/marxism/communism.
JLGunner
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:51pmRose-Ellen You really have to wake up and realise there is real evil in this world.
Report Post »JLGunner
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:53pmConservative-Teacher Remember that there were 3000 American lives lost at the hands of radical muslims.
Report Post »Ghostrider
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 2:16pmRose-Ellen, ARE YOU NUTS? We do not worship the same God as they do, and that lie is straight out of the devils hell. They worship a moon god and a false prophet. For you to state as fact that we worship the same god is ignorance at best. The so called god allah, is a demonic “god” at best. He was the moon god of the tribe mohammad belonged to . Christians worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Jesus Christ is our Lord and Saviour. The demonic religion of islam says that Jesus is their prophet who will come back and kill all Christians and Jews. Need I say more about this false religion.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 2:23pmI think they’re simply trying to make the meeting nonpolitical, which would exclude most evangelicals. Besides, I guess they can invite whom they want can’t they? What is this, some sort of affirmative action requirement based on quotas?
How many Hindu speakers to Rick Perry invite to his prayer meeting in Houston? Or any other religion for that matter. Answer: None.
Report Post »SLEUTH
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 2:30pmCONSERVATIVE_TEACHER – Shut up ‘Dick’, you ve been aborted. stop showing your hypocrisy.
Report Post »conservative_teacher
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 2:32pmI remember, JLGUNNER, what’s your point? The key term there is “radical”–as in not all Muslims. Do you remember the countless millions that have been slaughtered over the last 2000 years in the name of Christ? Or, is there some sort of statute of limitations that applies only to Judeo-Christian Evangelicals? How about a 1000 years of science and technology stifled at the hands of “The Church”? Hypocrisy, plain and simple.
Mountain Dew
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 2:37pmConservative-Teacher = Troll. Ignore it till it starves and dies.
Report Post »GKS
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 2:37pmJockeying for a presence at these silly, confusing interfaith high jinx at the milquetoasty National Cathedral is bad enough, but the facile, omnipresent attitude of “well, we all pray to the same God!” has got to stop. All major religions (and even science fiction entries such as Mormonism and Scientology) are based on the direct revelation of the Deity (or deities). These revelations are recorded. Consequently, either God is extremely schizophrenic, fickle and toying with the creation (Zeus comes to mind) or someone is claiming Divine Revelation when it is manifestly a fraud. These various revelations are clearly contradictory. Duhhh. We do NOT all pray to the same God, God is not a hand puppet Who understands that whatever we do is alright because we are “good” people since we pay our taxes, don’t beat our spouses and our faces are not (yet) on the wanted list at the Post Office. Someone is right and the rest are blindly, sincerely wrong. Contemporary PC culture can not change this fact no matter how hard it tries. Just sayin.
conservative_teacher
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 2:51pmAh, the Blaze censors are hard at work today. Hypocrites.
NHwinter
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 2:56pmFor all the trolls on this site. It is really sad that you do not see what is happening in America. You ramble on thinking you have great knowledge when you are actually blind. http://livestre.am/Pfu4
Report Post »Watch that link and then come back and tell us what you learned.
thegreatcarnac
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:11pmOh…we will get over it but we will get even. Do not think that every Christian is going to turn the other cheek. It isn’t over..BTW…‘Conservative teacher’….how is that possible?
Report Post »Al_Capone
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:20pm@rose-ellen…
Report Post »theres a Huge difference between JESUS CHRIST and the moon god of the muslims allah is the moon god.. do some research
cachristian345
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:22pmAllah is actually the moon god.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:23pmWould not the Bishop be praying to a Christian God….. and of course God is Christian. Not sure when Protestants and Christian sect and evangelicals became one and the same. The we are better Christians assertion is very telling of many evangelicals in and of itself and why people should turn and walk away from them as quickly as possible.
Report Post »mils
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:23pm“get over it”…why?
Everyone should be included…EVERYONE. Obama is doing this to separate and tell us how unimportant these people that he excludes are to him…and it’s his was to humiliate.
SO, THERE SHOULD BE NO BOO HOO…GET OVER IT…
I don’t believe any religion has a hold on the world..and we would be better off without man trying to control man with religious rules and made up rules.
Obama is playing dictator and we are allowing it to happen day after day after…
Report Post »Locked
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:40pm@ Al_Capone (and others who keep saying “MOON GOD! MOON GOD!”
“Among His Signs are the Night and the Day and the sun and moon. ADORE NOT THE SUN AND THE MOON BUT ADORE ALLAH WHO CREATED THEM if it is Him ye wish to serve.”
-Qu’ran
Allah means “One True God” in Arabic, which a simple translation would show. The “Moon God” conspiracy is about as valid as saying that God from the Bible is actually Zeus (as that’s where the traditional image of “God the Father” was taken from).
I don’t care much for Islam, but I care for ignorance even less, and a lot of you are using ignorant arguments that have been long discredited (ie: Robert Morey’s erroneous characterization of Allah as a pagan Moon God).
Report Post »en2deep
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:42pmJZS, I don’t know if you truly believe half of the crap that you write, or if you just like the attention that you get from writing it. None of this makes sense, to invite people from the religion responsible for the attack, but deny attendance to the religion that most likely had the most victims. Please explain why you are on the wrong side of every issue. You can’t be that naive.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:42pmYo JZS:
How does a representative of Christ (christian) make it political???????????, and others do not???????????
As far as Perry…he gets it. You don’t mix poison with the pie.
Praynmom: —-good job!!!
Encinom: Any loss of life is unfortunate and he said nothing concerning this.
Report Post »I doubt he’s sad, probably not small, that means you got 1 out of 3
You should try to be the one you got right.
Steve
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:49pmRose-ellen thats a lie. stop spreading such lies it really make you look stupid. oooo wait. you always look stupid. never mind… stupid on!
Report Post »iironfoam
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:49pmconservative?-teacher, with a hammer and sickle? How dare you place “teacher” when you can’t produce a complete sentence that makes sense? You are assuming a reader would know what the subject matter is. And you know about “ass u me” means, I assume?
Report Post »Austrael
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 4:07pmRose – Ellen,
Report Post »Allah is not the same as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. On top of the ‘Dome of the Rock’ in Jerusalem are the words “Allah has no son”. Do not believe the lies. Allah is not the God of Creation but a false god. The Koran does not speak of love in any form and tells its Muslim readers to kill those who will not be converted to Islam. Try inviting some Jewish or Christian leaders to speak at Mecca and see what happens.
I would also like to ask why your President would take his wife to visit the Queen in England and allow his wife to break protocol by hugging the Queen and then he visits the King of Saudi Arabia without his wife and bows in homage to him to maintain protocol.
America you are in deep trouble and the majority have been decieved by the slick publicity machine.
Jamestownrd
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 4:53pmAny man woman or child on the state of newyork..say hi to oj when you all reach your final destination..called HELL
Report Post »Jamestownrd
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 4:55pmA month or so remains..I pray for hurricanes to hit NYC
Report Post »BETTY CROCKER
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 4:56pmI am a little embarrassed to say I got a little chuckle from this headline. I have noticed that “Billy Holloway” seems to at times be very biased in his comments concerning some “Faith” based reporting. There is no mention of whether any “traditional main-stream” Christian clergy were invited, why not Billy? It is very clear to me by your reporting just which “Christians” you are biased against I guess you read that in your version of the bible.
Report Post »Fla Del
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 4:59pmRose-Ellen — Expounding on ignrance does not help the Muslim cause. Allah is not God. Allah hates Jews and Christians. Jews and Christians are less than vermin and must be wiped off the face of the earth. The God of Christians and Jews have mandated us to love everyone, even our enemies.
Report Post »And that includes you.
Read the Quran, get a life.
Servant Of YHVH
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 5:02pm@roseellen
I’m curious. Are you muslim, christian, or just a Jew Hater? Anyone with an IQ above 5 knows that the muslim moon god is NOT the same as the One True God. I figure that you have read the koran since you seem to defend and love the muslims so much, of course if you actually read it you would know that the koran talks about killing all of God’s People so that would make it impossible for them to follow the True God. I figure that you know that and just like the untruthful liberals (which you are probably that as well) and you are trying to cheer the muslim on towards the killing of everyone but themselves. You just better hope you are muslim if that were to happen because if you were not they would kill you too no matter how much you try to kiss their backsides. We will try to be nice to you though considering your mental handicap. Just don’t be surprised if you are mostly ignored though.
The reason that obama wants the 911 tribute to be banned of all Christians and honest people is because with his muslim background he wants everything to be about the muslim terrorists. That is his true goal is to spread the evil of muslim terrorism to every nation all around the world. That is why he is aiding the muslim terrorists to overthrow the governments that are not muslim so that the muslim terrorists can take it over. That is also why he attacked Libya, because Ghaddafi was not enough of a muslim to spread terrorism around the world anymore.
Report Post »Woody1938
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 5:09pmI would not waste my time going to anything Obama, the Muslim Socialist, puts on. Everything he does is just for show. No substance at all.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 5:33pmen2deep
Report Post »Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:42pm
JZS, I don’t know if you truly believe half of the crap that you write, or if you just like the attention that you get from writing it. None of this makes sense, to invite people from the religion responsible for the attack, but deny attendance to the religion that most likely had the most victims. Please explain why you are on the wrong side of every issue. You can’t be that naive.
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That religion would be CAtholic, not Southern Baptist. Of course there will be Christians in invovled in the program, just none that have receieved the SBC’s stamp of approval.
loriann12
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 6:13pmLets see, the twin towers were taken out by Muslim “radicals.” I’ve seen ONE MODERATE Muslim come forward to condemn the radicals. And yet we’re supposed to let them gloat over their victory at the 10th anniversary ceremony? The government is refusing to let a Greek Orthodox church that was actually destroyed in the blast rebuild, and yet they want a ground zero mosque? Why don’t we just roll over and admit defeat to our Muslim president?
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 6:47pmROSE-ELLEN…Islam although monotheistic does not bear any real resemblance to the Judeo-Christian faiths. In fact Islam chooses to lower Christ’s status and actually teaches Muslim faithful to hate Jews.
I quote the Hadith..one of the “holy books” of Islam.
‘The Last Hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: `Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him’; but the tree Gharkad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.’ (Sahih Muslim, Book 40, Number 6985).
Today, Christians, regardless of affiliation, are being systematically harassed, persecuted, and murdered throughout the Middle East, the region of the globe from which Christianity first emerged. Churches have been bombed and those attending Christian services have been killed. Christian homes have been ransacked and cemeteries have been destroyed. Converts from Islam to Christianity are considered apostates and subject to severe punishment. In Iran, a man named Youcef Nadarkhani has been sentenced to hang for the state crime of converting from Islam to Christianity. His appeals for clemency to Iran’s highest courts have been rejected.
Please ROSE-ELLEN..stop insulting our intelligence, Islam abhores both Christians and Jews and subverts their God/G-d.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 6:51pmJROOK…ummm…no..God is not Christian. God is God. He doesn’t worship Christ his own son. Please..you clearly have no understanding of this subject..just refrain from speaking until you have an acceptable grasp of it.
Report Post »J Z S
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 6:52pmIt is common knowledge that Christians strive to be Christlike and their morality often affects their politics. That is why Christians would most probably politicize the event. Muslims on the other hand are a-political.
palmettopalflorida
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 7:05pmRose-Ellen, there is but one God, and his Son is Jesus Christ, Savior of the World. If you reject the Son, as the Son of God, as all Muslims do by calling Him a prophet, you also reject the Father. God the Father will not forgive your rejection of his Son, which is what you do by calling God, allah, and allah, God. I caution you that you are damning yourself with your own words. There is a Great Divide taking place in this World and you must carefully chose where you will stand. You can not stand with both God and man, which is what you are attempting to do with your apologetics for Muslims. Is empathy for Muslims worth the loss of an Eternal Soul?
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 7:16pmActually JZS…Christians can’t strive to be Christlike. The term Christ is the term for his status. He is the Christ. A Christian would heretical to be “Christlike”. What Christians are taught is to adhere to Christ’s teaching and follow his path. Hence John emphasizes the Christology in his gospel while Luke emphasizes the historical course of events. The Christ is something no Christian can be regardless if they “strive” for it or not. For a Christian to be “Christlike” is impossible. Even the apostles and subsequent saints are not venerated as “Christlike” even when performing miracles. Their miracles are acts of faith and favor from God so again, they’re not “Christlike”. The closest you’ll see is the Blessed Mother and even then..she’s not venerated to the status of Christ. Please…you’re as bad as JROOK in your twisted hermeneutics. When you understand the subject at an acceptable level, please return to discuss it.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 7:28pmYo JZS:
Report Post »I mean no disrespect, but are you paying attention to what is going on in the world……….muslims being political. I think it is probably pretty much the opposite. Just take a look at the stories being reported on here. Just my well thought out never been wrong before thoughts.
avenger
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 7:30pmallah akbar (cocktail hr at 4) http://thereligionofpeace.com
Report Post »J Z S
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 7:41pm@avenger
Point well taken. Since I will never attain full intellect I will stop trying to learn. Since I can never be sin free I will stop trying to not sin. Since I will never rule the world I will stop trying to advance myself. Since I will never be capable of following traffic law 100% of the time I will not adhere to traffic laws.
The idea that Christians are not supposed to be Christlike is news to me.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 7:57pmavenger;
[QUOTE]
Christians can’t strive to be Christlike. The term Christ is the term for his status. He is the Christ. A Christian would heretical to be “Christlike”.
[END QUOTE]
“48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.” (Mathew 5)
What about *trying really really hard* to be “Christlike”? Would that be OK?
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 8:22pm@Locked
Allah means “One True God” in Arabic, which a simple translation would show.
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Wrong, “Allah” is a pre-Islamic name for whoever any Arab thought was the highest god. The reason Muhammad’s Allah is tied to the moon god is that Hubal, was the chief god (Allah) at the Kaa’ba in Makkah (Mecca), and was the god his tribe and his family worshipped.
Muhammed’s father’s literal name in Arabic was Abd ALLAH (Abdullah), and Muhammad’s full name was Abu al-Qasim Muhammad Ibn [son of] Abd ALLAH Ibn [son of] Abd al-Muttalib Ibn [ son of] Hashim. (caps added). That proves to you that “Allah” was a pre-Islamic name.
Of course Muhammad distanced himself from Hubal. But when he created his own god, he called him “Allah,” first, because he was an illiterate barbarian and was not imaginative, second because the name ran in the family and he wanted to be a cult leader, and third, because if you understand the spirit world, Satan has always wanted to make himself HIGHER THAN God. Thus Allah’s relation to the “moon god” is a moot point. The name “Allah” is only important in that it describes Satan to a tee. Not surprisingly, the praise/jihadist war cry, “Allah is GREATER (Allahu Akbar), retains the original meaning of Allah as being “the higher god.”
Report Post »Bologno
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 8:24pmConservative -Teacher, I hope that you are an ex-teacher. Teachers like you are destroying the minds of our children. Shame on you! That same God that people like you are rejecting- is the same God that will pronounce (eternal) judgement on you!
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 8:27pmYo Advenger:
Report Post »The term “christian” was given to those that followed Christ. Follower of Christ means to do as He did in all things. My whole life is to emulate Him in my speech, actions. thoughts.I really don’t like to post alot of verses but here is one ……. And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the Lord’s glory, are being transformed INTO HIS LIKENESS with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is Spirit (2 Cor. 3:18). This process is called sanctification. I encourage you to get your own bible and read it for yourself.there are many that teach it incorrectly.
deedledee
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 9:12pm@NHWINTERS…yes i watched the video. i did not know the names of those in the whitehouse. but knew the rest because i do listen to GB. he has discussed this often. so i am disappointed that you feel that most ppl on this site dont know that info.
Report Post »@conservative teacher.. you are lost. your lack of knowledge WILL prove detremental to you and your family in the end. maybe in 2 months or 5 years but it will be ugly.
jzs
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 10:14pmen2deep, yes, to answer your question, I do truly believe half of the crap that I write. For you and truthfully, I guess I should remind you that this event is being held in a Christian church and that their will be Christian speakers and attendees will mostly be Christian (as ENCINOM noted). So, what’s the gripe? Are you also concerned that their is a Sunni Muslim but not not a Shiite (or visa versa, I don’t know)? Is this some kind of liberal, religious affirmative action your are trying to impose on Americans? Why at this event and not Perry’s?
en2deep asks, “Please explain why you are on the wrong side of every issue. You can’t be that naive.” Honestly en2deep I can‘t explain why I’m always wrong. That baffles me too. Maybe it’s because “being on the wrong side” is a matter of personal values or the best way to create something like Heaven here on Earth?
FYI, I’ve changed my avatar blazers, because I have a stalker here, someone who has hijacked my identity, maybe someone who is not quite together, who wants to pretend he’s me.
Report Post »jjet
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 10:21pmDamn it! Boo Hoo get over it? Will every American citizen stop and think of what we’ve become.
9/11 was a horror that seemed to wake us up, and show how wonderfull it was to be united as Americans who love are country. AMERICA FIRST Without her our way of life is over. Stop this please before we distroy her from within. I’m 65, my only hope is becoming, I won’t live to see the most amazing concept in the history of mankind be brought down by her own stupid people. You show more respect for the Islamic murderers than your own American brothers .
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:04pm@conservative_teacher
Report Post »Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:56pm
Actually, Slueth, it‘s more like who gives a rat’s ass. This is just more Blaze non-news worthy religious propaganda and hypocrisy. If the situation was reversed and it was only Muslims that we’re not invited, there would be a thread of comments congratulating the decision
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And if it was only Muslims invited, would they pass out small replicas of airplanes so their children could commemorate the victory?
Remember, Bin Laden said it was a Jihad, they were on. (That’s a religious attack) If Muslim extremists attacked the US, I wonder that it is Evangelical Christians who are omitted? Perhaps Tony Perkins of another Evangelical Protestant should declare a Jihad, then certainly everyone would be afraid not to include them in everything, lest they be offended.
Mil Mom
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:35pm@conservative_teacher
Report Post »Posted on September 7, 2011 at 2:32pm
I remember, JLGUNNER, what’s your point? The key term there is “radical”–as in not all Muslims. Do you remember the countless millions that have been slaughtered over the last 2000 years in the name of Christ? Or, is there some sort of statute of limitations that applies only to Judeo-Christian Evangelicals? How about a 1000 years of science and technology stifled at the hands of “The Church”? Hypocrisy, plain and simple
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All those slaughtered in the name of Christ, would have to start WITH Christ, you can’t get a whole lot more brutal than being lashed with a Cat-O-Nine-Tails until your back is like hamburger, having a heavy cross put on it, and being expected to carry it up a mountain, when He fell under it, THEY STILL LAID HIM ON IT, POUNDED NAILS IN HIS HANDS AND FEET, and with a crown of thorns still on His bleeding back, they raised it up and thumped it down into the ground, then the excruciating pain of having to try to raise Himself up enough that His lungs would work for every breath. (If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you. John 15:18)
This was only the start, they forced the Christians to fight the gladiators in the Roman Arenas, Peter was crucified upside down, they attempted to boil John in Oil. many were thrown to hungry lions, others watched their families tortured as they burned at the stake.
Not in the name of Christ, but BECAUSE OF!
Greenwood
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:40pm@Momprayn……………………a “triune God” ?
ONE
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 12:03am@J Z S
Report Post »Posted on September 7, 2011 at 6:52pm
It is common knowledge that Christians strive to be Christlike and their morality often affects their politics. That is why Christians would most probably politicize the event. Muslims on the other hand are a-political
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Thank you for recognizing Christlikeness IS morality, but since when did BEING MORAL mean you’re politicizing something? All our original laws and constitution had a moral basis, yet there wasn’t a politicization of obeying the laws or following the constitution until about the last 50 yrs. THAT‘S WHEN THE 60’S RADICALS BEGAN TO MARCH AND TAKE OVER A POLITICAL PARTY!!! {Now look who’s been a majority in our government for so many years and you see why to supportive of our history, patriotic, OR LAW ABIDING & MORAL IS CONSIDERED POLITICAL}….BUT TO BE AN EVANGILICAL CHRISTIAN? THAT’S BEING POLITICAL??? … {BEAM ME UP SCOTTY!}
NickyLouse
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 1:07amHow about equal representation, if we are going to allow fools to pray to idols such as Allah and Buddha or one of the millions of Hindu gods?
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 5:44amidiot. muslims must be excluded from any 911 event. they were the ones who did the murderous acts. they will continue to do so. the koran demands it you fool. read the koran and then tell me i am wrong not before.
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 8:30amRose-Ellen You are as ignorant about religion as you are hateful. Allah is Satan and Mohamed is his prohet, the 12th imam is the anti-christ. Do an A?B comparison of the coming of the imam and the Christian “Revelation” and you will see. As far as being the same GOD…
Here are a few tasty quotes from Koran:
Sura 2:187 “And kill them wherever ye shall find them”
“Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them.” (Sura 2:191)
“The infidels are your sworn enemies.” (Sura 4:101)
Sura 4:89 “seize them and slay them wherever you find them.”
“The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger…will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land.” (Sura 5:33)
“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends.” (Sura 5:51)
“Infidels are those who declare: ‘God is the Christ, the son of Mary.’” (Sura 5:17)
“Infidels are those that say ‘God is one of three in a Trinity.’” (Sura 5:73)
Sura 9:005: So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush”
“Make war on the infidels who dwell around you.” (Sura 9:123)
Sura 9:29 “Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]…until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdu
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 8:38am@J Z S…” It is common knowledge that Christians strive to be Christlike and their morality often affects their politics. That is why Christians would most probably politicize the event. Muslims on the other hand are a-political.”
Muslims on the other hand are a-political??? islam is politics inside of religion. The religion is all encompassing of religion and politics. Try to educate yourself on a subject before opening your pie hole and showing your great ignorance and bias.
Report Post »OneCitizenOfTheRepublic
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 9:22amstrange that no one mentioned that there are no Rabbi’s invited either…hummm
Report Post »pennswoods
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 10:53amIslam IS the issue. The USA was attacked on September 11, 2011 by Islamic Jihadists who carried out this suicide attack as part of their 1,400 year religious war against Western Christian Civilization and the non Islamic world. They hijacked those jets and screamed out “Allah Akbar” before they rammed those same jets into the WTC Towers, the Pentagon, and the jet crashed into a field in Western Pennsylvania because of the Koran. Islam is about submission, degradation, and symbolism. That is the meaning of the “Victory Mosque” a block from Ground Zero and the threats they give to anyone or any organization that dares question or mock of question Islam in any way, shape, or form. Ask “Comedy Central” why it quickly withdrew it’s show last year that put Mohammed in a “humerous” light. Ask David Letterman why he had to take two weeks off his show after a Jihadist web site threatened his life after he made a joke about Moahmmed. How about the cartoonist in Denmark who still lives under protective custody with a heavy police guard in Denmark today because of a cartoon he made of Moahmmed that was published in a danish newspaper and the riots that followed all over the Islamic world? The symbolism of the so called “commerative service” at the so called National Cathedral is that it is Islam getting it’s way once again. Stupid Western Dhimmi’s will bow and scrape and kiss the feet of the very people who want to kill the folks who own this Cathedral and destroy their Civ
Report Post »CommonSenseis Missing
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 12:56pm@ locked & @Jrook, you are both spot on. Christians are represented, time to move on.
Report Post »stift72
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 3:23pmOf course everyone has an opinion, hence the 1st amendment (Freedom of Speech) which was so kindly given to us by our fore fathers who coincidentally happen to found this country based of God and Gods Word (the Bible). George Washington said, “It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible.” James Madison said, “The future and success of America is not in this Constitution, but in the laws of God upon which this Constitution is founded.”
Report Post »We have, as a country, allowed God to be pushed out of this country. God is taken out of schools by no more prayer, no more pledge allegiance to the Flag, Etc… the list goes on and on. We have slowly but surely pushed God right out of the very country He has blessed us with and the freedom that has been provided to us! Yet we want to blame God for every disaster, every bad thing that happens in this country and we wonder where God is? Well he is where we put Him… in a box to take out when we want Him. Well God doesn’t work that way. He gave us free will which in turn gives us the right to refuse or except Him. God isn’t going to force himself or his Will into our lives or into this country. So with God being pushed out of this country, left, right and center… This country is about to fall into One World society. Basically the book of Revelation is coming to fruition.
RedDawg
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 9:26pmSBC.
The Southern Bigots Convention?
Report Post »Who cares?
Beauzeaux
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 10:55pmand the Wiccan’s???
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:01amIt‘s more like the Muslim’s get to celebrate their win event this year.
Give em a happy mean and they will go away mentality.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 8:11amconservative_teacher
Atheist have killed more than any group, Muslims are higher on the list than Christians.
If you are a teacher, you need to study up. Troll is what you are, eh?
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 2:21pmhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/7/crane-falls-washington-national-cathedral/
See what happens when you leave evangelicals/Christians out?
THE HAND OF GOD! Youbetcha! They might want to “rethink” that decision…
Report Post »liberalsarealiens
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:04pmNo Jewish reps? Speaks volumes about this president and the left! And I’m a Christian!
Report Post »Crazyotto
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:13pmYes this is the most disturbing part … 2 muslims a Hindu, a Buddhist and a Protestant.. sounds like the start of a bad joke… but seriously why no Jewish representatives?
Report Post »amagaux
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:24pmDon’t blame the POTUS, it was the teleprompter’s fault.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:38pmNo where does the article say that there are no Jewish reps.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:47pmAllah is the arabic word for God-plain and simple and you know it but in your genocidal hatred of muslims [for giving you some blowback for your policies toward them] you cast aspersions against them through lies. Both you and God know you are guilty of this.Hatred of your brrother is a stubborn thing and I’ll pray to Jesus for you.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:18pmPeople who believe they are following God when they behead people and all those other barbaric penal codes- are misguided. christians have also been misguided and continue to be[we're all sinners and we're all suceptible to doing evil in the name of good].Only God is wholly good and we all fall short. Muslims in their penal codes fall short but we here fall short too. americans who claim to believe in God do horrible thing s too everyday[.And our penal codes are pretty horrific too-life in prison without parole-in solitary confinement can be considered more horrific then executions for many people]Those muslims are not all uniformly barbaric in their beliefs. Their koran is open to interpretation too. And their barbaric codes were part of the original old testament beliefs and practices.[They can be said to be the real jews of the old testament]. hence it is the same god that muslims pray to. Though they are misguided in what is pleasing to God just as we have been and in many ways still are.
Report Post »paulusmaximus
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:27pmBoycott the whole event! It is all about capitulating to the Muslim demons. The 3000+ who died are not the reason for the event. The whole reason for the attack was be cause of their hate of Christians and Jews.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:56pmThe muslims are dying and killing for the same reasons we die and kill at war- they believe that they are defending themselves.they suffered as a result of us propping up brutal dictators from which we benefitted[ with cheap oil, military bases and cold war interestets-where all leftists were tortured or imprisoned and killed ]. So yes they reacted to colonial and post colonial western meddling which harmed them by clinging to fundamentalism and rising up against us. There is nothing irrational about that. We have been in denial dismissing the plight of all those people who suffered as we benefitted and now dismissing their legitimate struggle to rid their homelands of foreign domination.That they don’t follow Christ is irrelevant- many americans don’t follow Christ.To blithly dismiss the mass murder of civilians in our wars as mistakes exemplifies our arrogance when juxtaposed with our overreaction to 9-11.[how dare people murder us -didn't God tell them when americans murder it's good or simply a mistake but when any one else murders it's bad].We are not innocent though we have a self serving narrative that demonizes people who resist our unjust domination of them[via puppet dictators] and excuse our evil actions against them.Very simplistic, very self serving and patently an expression of american hubris.In the name of our real religion-americanism- we kill and die too. They kill and die because we divied up their homelands for western interests.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 2:14pm@Rose-Ellen
Whatever legitimate grievances the Middle East has (and there are plenty), none of their actions are “rational” when they kill their own civilians in an effort to hurt the West. I agree the ME has been treated terribly and exploited, but that never justifies the indiscriminate slaughter of your own people (or the civilians of your enemy). Many of the fundamentalists don’t care about freedom from the West – they care about revenge. That’s never a basis for negotiations.
My two cents.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:54pmYo Rose Ellen:
Me thinks you should read the ten COMMANDMENTS…try the first one Det.5:7 …You shall have no other gods before me ( before = besides)
I don’t know if it gets simpler then that… no disrespect, but biblicly, you didn’t get anything right. Where do you get your ideas from???
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 5:44pmwe non muslims can‘t go to mecca for the same reason a non catholic can’t receive communion or [prior to vatican 2] only a priest could touch the consecrated host or enter the tabernacle area of the church .this is just religious stuff and in a theocracy like saudi arabia it makes sense. The whole world does not have american sensibilities and theocracy is an ancient ,primitive yet completely valid way for indigenous people to choose to organize their society under. The world and its’ peoples do not belong to us the top dog americans. it is their business what they choose to believe in, in their homelands. Stop comparing apples and oranges.We choose secularism and are not indigenous,.Religion is a tricky thing .I a catholic was taught that we are all born naturally believing in God [his laws are written in our hearts and we're made in his image]. if the tenent of islam is the belief in the God of the o.t., then they too believe what i was taught as a catholic-that all people are born naturally believing in one supreme God. Yet in your hatred you twist all their beliefs around and misinterpret anything and everything they claim to believe in. No wonder they don’t feel to engage you when you clamor for them to proclaim their innocence! And what’s wrong with common courtesy- when in rome… if obama bows to a head of state because that is the custom -so what.if to you It means more then courtesy then your sensibilities are unamerican-not his!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 7:03pmYou see ROSE-ELLEN would have us believe that the middle east was a humanitarian utopia before the west showed interest in the region. Peaceful, all inclusive, benign and open to all cultures. Then…presto… all of a sudden, monarchies, dictatorships, power monopolies, autocracies and theocracies and their accompanying oppression and violence just started popping up as soon as a westerner showed his face.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 7:32pmROSE-ELLEN…you have bleated so much foolishness in this one strand it’s almost impossible to address it all here. Needless to say…equating the rituals of the priesthood and the mystery of the tabernacle with “infidels” not being allowed to set foot in an entire city (Jews in the entire country for that matter) is idiocy beyond compare. It’s that bloody awful liberal trait “moral relativism”. It‘s a liberal psychosis and you’ve displayed it with hearty zeal today.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 7:36pmYo rose Ellen;
Report Post »Please read the bible for yourself, do not let yourself be spoon feed. If you did this you would realize your errors. As far as differences of opinion concerning world matters… fine. Please, in all sincerity;try to get the bible stuff right . I encourage you!
Elena2010
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:28pmAmen! Surely there were Jews murdered on 9-11 as there were Christians and others.
@ Rose — the Haddith is NOT open to interpretation nor is the al-sira (life of Mohammad). That is where the bulk of the hatred for others comes from. While in today’s Arabic, Allah can mean any god or the one chief god, in Mohammad’s day it did not. It meant one specific deity — a chief moon god as represented by the meteor in the Kaaba. Each and every male muslim is expected to replicate the life of Mohammad in his own life. Jihadis are doing just that. They hate the so-called moderate muslims as much as they hate us. You need to take the blinders off and look long and deeply into islam before saying it’s just like Judaism and Christianity.
As has been pointed out to you previously, the God of the Bible acts one way while the god of the koran and haddith acts in the opposite way. Both cannot be true.
As for me and my house, I will choose YHWH/Jesus/Paraclete of the Bible! Rose-Ellen, you cannot serve both Allah and Jesus. Choose. Choose wisely!
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 12:25amAllah is a word ,not a name. And etymologically i surmise that our word the [il, le ,el,la ] comes from the arabic ‘al”.also“ lah” -comes from the word- “is ”[being ] the old testament pronouncement by God [i am who am] meaning the one who truly is. our words for being’ is” are derivied from the old testament israel. isaiah and the arabic lah. God in arabic[allah] literally means the one who is .Al [the] and lah[ is].
Report Post »Mil Mom
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 12:47am@rose ellen
Report Post »re : And what’s wrong with common courtesy- when in rome… if obama bows to a head of state because that is the custom -so what.if to you It means more then courtesy then your sensibilities are unamerican-not his!
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Maybe you never studied World History, but when I was in school, it was a requirement from 5th grade on. We were taught that in ALL OTHER COUNTRIES but America, the citizens were required to BOW TO THEIR ROYALTY, TO SHOW SUBSERVIENCE, Therefore, although the French might not bow to the British King, All the colonialists were required to do so since they were the servants of the king.
WHEN WE WON THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR, ONE CAUSE CELEBRE WAS THE FACT THAT NEVER AGAIN WOULD OUR HEADS OF STATE HAVE TO BOW TO THOSE OF ANOTHER NATION!! [ When our President goes to another nation, and bows to it's Head of State, he is showing that our nation is NOT ON THE SAME PAR WITH THAT NATION!!! ] THAT’S WHAT IRRITATES ALL OF US WHO LOVE OUR COUNTRY EVERY TIME OUR pRESIDENT BOWS TO ANOTHER HEAD OF STATE!!! HE TAKES AWAY THE HONOR OF BEING A CO-EQUAL TO THAT PERSON, AND SYMBOLICLY PUTS ALL OF US UNDER THAT NATION’S SERVICE! (I know there’s a lil p in that word, because he takes away the respect due the office, with each bow!!)
margaret1977
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:04pmOK America, i think now it time to be really outraged! This is way over board! This is a Slam to the face of America ! Hellooooo People ! either forget the country or start doing something !
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:54pmWe slaughterd the civilians for sheer revenge in all our wars. In the name of our religion -americanism.
Report Post »Jamestownrd
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 5:05pmWhich 7-11 does Rose Ellen work at?
Report Post »webpreacher
Posted on September 10, 2011 at 10:45pmRose Ellen, you don’t know what your talking about. Allah is not just a word, it is a word that is ascribed as a name to the Muslim’s god (small g), just like any name in any language is a word, but one that is ascribed to a person as their name. Also, you lay claim that the Christian God is the same as the Muslim’s god…WRONG THEOLOGY Rose Ellen, you don’t have a clue, and it is so obvious in your postings. You need to do your homework and study your history !!
Just for you Rose Ellen, here are a few web sites that can help you can some insight.
http://www.Jesus-is-Savior.com
http://www.GodSaid/ManSaid.com
you will get educated in the things of the True and living God…. Jesus Christ !!
Report Post »Tom70
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:03pmJust who is this idiot Bloomberg? Isn’t this America?
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:18pmThis isn’t about NY, it’s about the Washington National Cathedral.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:01pmI will be boycotting this event … I will be remembering the dead and injured and those who put their lives on the line for others . In my own way .. WITH PRAYER.
Report Post »flamegonesilver
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:15pmAMEN CATB!
Report Post »I’ll be in pray also.
jakartaman
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:33pmThe sign of intelligence is the degree to which you ignore stupidity
Report Post »sickntiredofliberals
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 2:42pmAmen !
Report Post »love the kids
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:59am“It’s not surprising. There is a tragic intolerance toward Protestants and particularly toward evangelicals and I wish the president would refuse to speak unless it was more representative.
Report Post »I think it would send a very strong and very positive signal to the left wing extremists in our country that the president ought not show up.”
I think by showing up he is sending a very strong message to the left wing extremeists !!!!
NHwinter
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:20pmI’m afraid that is all the President ever does.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:57amI just read the whole story on my radio show and people are pissed; now playing a song called “Praying to the Wrong God” by Charlie Daniels. Thanks for the story, Blaze.
Report Post »trolltrainer
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:06pmhave you read Charlie Daniel’s soapbox on his website? There is also a pretty good forum over there.
http://charliedaniels.com/main.htm
Report Post »Locked
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:55am““Three quarters of the American people identify as Christian and nearly a third of them are evangelical Christian. And yet, there is not a single evangelical on the program.”
… and the Catholic church has over 68 million American members, making it the largest Christian denomination in the US. The SBC has 16 million members, making it sizable… but not nearly the mainstream Christian denomination out of all the Christian sects.
The guy is sour grapes because his particular organization isn’t represented, not because Christianity isn’t there.
Report Post »DLG123
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:11pmThis is NOT a Catholic Cathedral. It an Episcopal church.
DLG
Report Post »Locked
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:19pm“This is NOT a Catholic Cathedral. It an Episcopal church.”
In the article it stated the dean of the cathedral as well as the bishop of Washington will be there. I was assuming the Bishop in question would be Roman Catholic, as the dean of the cathedral would represent the Episcopal church. Even if this isn’t the case, it still means there is Christian representation.
Much ado about nothing; it still sounds like sour milk from the SBC to me.
Report Post »DLG123
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:08pmLocked…
Report Post »I believe they were talking about… John Bryson Chane ~ Episcopal Bishop of Washington.
love1another
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:54amThere is no law stating that we are required to watch, listen, or attend this tribute. Just ignore it!
Report Post »VintageAmerican
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:54am“Vengeance is mine” sayeth the Lord. If we notice then I am certian God is aware. I am also certain God will make his presence know in spite of them trying to deliberately excluding him.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:50pmThough it is wrong to kill civilians, until we are subjugated and occupied -and until you have your house taken away from you to be given to a native of another country – don’t be so quick to say you would never condone suicide bombing or killing of civilians. Here in peaceful non occupied america people commit murder-suicide every day-often including children for all kinds of frivolous reasons. just the other day a man wanted to make a bomb because he didn’t have electrrical power in his home for a few days after a hurricane. give the agreived muslims 21st c drones and they too will target only military. But we hide our military bases behind civilians . And we have always resorted to the killing of civilians when it was deemed in our interests to do so. And Allah means God in arabic. And any one who believes he/she is praying to God is in fact praying to God. God is not fooled and God knows all hearts and notwithstanding the malice you right wingers have toward muslims ,when and if they believe they are praying to God[and allah is the arabic word for God] then they are praying to God. Your hateful arrogant pronouncements to the contrary don’t trump God.God by any name is still God and as the muslims so insightfully proclaim-there is no God but God-whatever name people have on their lips -He knows their hearts.You who are consumed by anger at the fact for the first time there were consequences to YOU for your actions toward THEM can stick to your hateful lies.
Report Post »Annika2011
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 10:32pm@Rose-Ellen
” do not be quick to say you would never condone suicide bombing.”
Are you out of your mind??? I will never ever pay attention to you again.
Report Post »You are beyond the pale of reason.
DanWesson455
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:53amAgain, the dumbing down of Christian America. One just has to look at the Tea leaves to see what is changing around them. This C R A P will come to a head and someone will pop it like a good zit. How many years must a Republic endure this centralization of power that use to belong to the people? My taxes should go no further than the county level. From there the State can take its fair share. The Federal Govt. should be funded by taxes and levies imposed on imports. The Income tax Amendment to the US Constitution is fraudulent and was pushed through to fund a war. After the war it should have been repealed. Ever since Washington has been usurper of power and abuse of power. It has to end at this next election.
Report Post »capecodsully
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:52amI’m sure the lefty loons in America would love to see the Episcopal Church as representatives for the Christian faith, it is a perversion of the faith. Fact is there will be no representatives of Christianity there that day. I’m sure Obama wont even notice.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:56pmHow can there be a national cathedral to begin with? Does the term national-not violate the constitutional principal of having no national religion?At least bloomberg has the courage to proclaim that religion can not be part of a national [government sponsored] event.A national cathedral is more american hypocrasy[trying to have one's cake and eat it too-no courage of one's conviction but stradling ].
Report Post »capecodsully
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:38pmPOOR POOR ROSEELLEN – Did your mother drop you on your head? Were you raised by wolves? (my apologies to wolves) How can you possibly say the ridiculous things that you do?
Report Post »I’ll go slow for you. America is a Christian nation. There are monuments all over our nation giving honor to the Lord. That would be the Lord of Israel. Not other gods but the one true God.
Our founders amended the Constitution to say that the government could not impose any religion on anyone. You are free to worship any faith or nothing. There is no hypocrisy in this. This is freedom found in Jesus Christ. If the commies get their way and wipe Jesus out of American society, that freedom will be gone. That is why the commies fabricated separation of church and state. They read it in the soviet constitution and have been trying to implement it here ever since. Our Constitution says ALL (including elected officials) have freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.
FEMALL
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:53pm@ROSE-ELLEN Separation of Church and State is about not having a state imposed religion–like The Church of England– which in America is known as the Episcopal Church. The National Cathedral represents the founding of America on Judeo Christian Principles and the 1st amendment right of freedom OF religion.
Is it true that Muslim Tenents hold that, according to Allah, that all people are born Muslim but the Infidels have been taught differently by their parents?
Report Post »ClockKing
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 9:47pmMore likely Ellen’s mamma drop-kicked through the goalposts of life.
Report Post »gramma dee
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 2:42pmRosie ya big baby
Bloomie has NO courage. You are the most anti-American catholic I have ever had the displeasure to read.
Report Post »FAITH HOPE LOVE
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 3:56pm@KRYPTONITE
Report Post »Well said and you are so spot on with the mixing now taking place… It’s called “Chris-lam” (not sure if I spelled that right) but they are putting the Koran and the Bible in the same pews now. I‘m sure it is part of satan’s stragtegy to exchange the truth for the lie as he has been masterminding all these years. MARANATHA- “EVEN SO, COME LORD JESUS”.. I’m glad I am not the only one who studies Hebrew and Greek which were the original text of the Bible
@ROSE ELLEN
I have been reading everyone’s comments and you view of this world is truly corrupt. How could you ever justify murder?(your comment about dont be too quick to say you wouldnt consider suicide bombing)There is a big difference between KILLING (as in war-time combat) and MURDER. Regardless of what beleif system you are part of murder is always wrong and sin! By the way- I actually understand your twisted veiw on America’s foreign affairs especially concerning Muslims and our troops killing civillians (right or wrong or necessary -whatever the reason was/is) BUT the fact is- from what I gather from your collected comments -you are justifying one evil for another evil.. We killed them so they killed us- I get it- but does that make either slaughter of innocent lives right? No it does not. You seem very defensive of them -more than any one else I’ve read posted comments from. The hate Americans express is for the radical Muslims that take their beleifs into actions by killing your broth
palerider54
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:51amThis article could have been taken directly from the pages of the “Left Behind Series” of Books. In them the Anti-Christ forms a one world religion by combining all the religions of the world. All of them that is EXCEPT the one that worships the only begotten son of God, Jesus Christ.
We are having a CHRISTIAN memorial in our town, and all Christian faiths are invited to attend.
We will mourn for the families that lost loved ones in the attacks.
WE WILL PRAY TO JESUS CHRIST, without fear of offending any other faiths, that he heals this troubled land, that he comforts the families that lost loved ones in the attacks and the families of our brave military that have been wounded or have paid the ultimate price for freedom.
They may not pray in DC or NY out of political correctness, but they can’t STOP US FROM PRAYING.
At least not yet, but I can fore see them passing laws prohibiting such “hateful speech ” in public in the near future.
Report Post »USNVET66-70
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:28pmI’m afraid you are right.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:57pmWho has been left out? Yahweh. The God of Israel and of true Christians, the One who is, was, and is to be.
You are right, Palerider, the liturgical so-called Christian churches will unite with Islam as we approach the Rapture. The Bride will be taken out, and Jews will convert to Messiah, so they will be hated even more, if that is possible.
In a way, I am glad these religious leaders are doing their own thing. Ecuumenism is not of God. If we were still a Christian nation, this mixing of the holy and the unholy would never have taken place. We would all be praying to God, not to idols or to Satan/Allah. It is written, so let them be. Maranatha.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:57pm“This article could have been taken directly from the pages of the “Left Behind Series” of Books.”
Upon reading this, my first thought was “Man, don’t insult Billy Hallowell by comparing his article to that POS.” :-P Seriously, the Left Behind series was an entertaining read, but reaaaally flimsy on Biblical doctrine, and downright terrible on writing style. I’d put it on par with Stephanie Meyer and her sparkly vampires – good for a mildly entertaining read and written at the literary level of your average American tween.
Sorry for railing on LB, but I think they did more to mess up people’s understanding of the Bible than almost anything else in recent years.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 6:48pmOnce the athiests are out of the closet then of course having clergy pray in the public sphere violates their right to equal treatment and the constituional prohabition of a church religion. Though individuals in government can pray all they want and publicly proclaim their faith- in government spaces on government time – they will be prohibited from bringing God into that public space. Just like gay marriage is now becoming a right, having clergy in public[government events] spaces will become a violation of the equal treatment of athiests and will become an endorsement of religion and therefore will be ruled unconstituional. A private institution can call itself a national cathedral but of course it violates separation of church and state for the government to proclaim it as such. And it is not true that we are a christian nation- many founding fathers were merely theists .Any one who would rewirte the bible and take out the miracles and theology is the antithesis of a christian.[sounds like something the commies would have done].
Report Post »Greenwood
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:43pm@Rose………you again
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TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:48amThe Gospel of Jesus Christ: this is what the American Left, the Muslims, and the Communists ALL share a common hatred for.
Report Post »TMink
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:02pmYes, and it is what they all so desperately need! We must not hate those that are given over to our enemy. They are the most in need. Keep that in mind, they are the most in need.
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mils
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:28pmyeahyeahyeah…turn the other cheek if you please…me???…i’m gonna fight back. it’s a bunch of bull to sit and be run over just because some where in your mind you think this is the way to live…bull crap…
don’t start quoting the bible to me…i don’t believe in the bible (esp the new test) as anything but historical type references,…if that.. If you do not stand and fight you will be run over and there is no one that will step in and save you.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 8:05pmIf the Lord gives me the go ahead to fight( like for family), pity the poor sucker in front of me.
Report Post »As for someone saving me… already been done,dude….you know, that NT guy – - – Jesus
Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:47amLottsa luck with that, Frank! This “observance” is not about anything other than politics. I can almost hear the God-like reverberation in the speaker systems now! It will be interesting to see if Dubya comes with his boots on -or his little jester slippers.
Report Post »Ron_WA
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:46amSo, do I understand this correctly, is this saying the religious clergy who preach in the Washington National Cathedral are not being allowed to attend an event in their own house of worship or is there some other point that this blog is trying to make?
Report Post »Ron_WA
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:52amWait, is this blog trying that there will not be a single “evangelical” Christian in the crowd or participating in any way … or is this just another blog story trying to pit one religious sect against another?
Report Post »GENEPAGLIARI
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:45amWe are not a hindu, muslim or buddist country. We have an agent of the d e v i l in the white house. That is all there is to it.
Report Post »Gary Fishaholic
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:04pmUnfortunately it goes further than that with all the appointed ( not veted ) CZARS and regulators the list goes and on.
Report Post »jcizarter
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:44amThere are no Jews invited either?
Report Post »Kitzie1963
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 6:03pmThe firefighters have been left out, also. All religions lost people on that day including Christians. Weep for our country!
Report Post »TxMadMac
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:44amI‘ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I think the president is a muslim loving antichrist along with all his minions doing his bidding and all being directed by mr soros.
Report Post »dwh320
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:43amObama and the Progressives excluding large Christian groups… what new here? They do that ALL the time.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:22pm“this event is private in nature and Obama has been invited as a guest”
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It is the Episcopalians that are at fault.
kryptonite
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:01pmAnonymous,
Report Post »Has this ever happened before Obama? I dare say not. Yes, it is apparently the Episcopalians, but methinks they are more than happy to comply with this admin’s anti-Christian/Semitic stance.
Tickdog
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:43amstupid crap.. jeeze.. invite the people that orchestrated this crime but not the folks that help comfort the victims.. Only in America.. jeeze…
Report Post »teck77
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:42pmThe people that orchestrated this crime you say…did ONLY Christians die that day? All of the responders, volunteers etc…were they only Christians? Idiot!!!
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 4:21pm@teck77
Report Post »The people that orchestrated this crime you say…did ONLY Christians die that day? All of the responders, volunteers etc…were they only Christians? Idiot!!!
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You’re the one who is acting like an idiot, putting words in his mouth. Tickdog never said only Christians died that day. He noted that representatives of Islam — the jihadists’ faith — were invited, WHILE CHRISTIAN EVANGELICALS WERE NOT. If he finds that reprehensible, he is entitled to his opinion.
GodHatesFigs
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:43amEvangelicals are all too willing to accept Catholics as Christians when counting the population and professing that we live in a majority Christian nation (which I agree that it is), but love to profess otherwise that Catholics are not true Christians.
Report Post »DLG123
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:53amYour name is AWESOME! Probably the funniest I have seen. Very Clever!!!
That said this is NOT a Catholic Cathedral… It is an Episcopal church! I may be misreading but Catholics are Christians.
Have a blessed day
Report Post »DLG
TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:55amInteresting. I had not heard this. It’s my understanding that Repentance (turning from sin), Confession (verbally agreeing with God), and Faith (real-world trust & decision-making based on spiritual truth) are the requirements of salvation.
If those standards are met – what does denomination matter?
On that topic, however, I will say that in America the term “Christian” has become cliche and nearly meaningless (due to rampant hypocrisy, abuse, and general weirdness). I think a new label is in order. Something like “Jesus Follower” or “Believer” or something.
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Posted on September 7, 2011 at 12:07pmMy mistake, I hear words like cathedral and bishop and I think Catholic. I guess I shouldn’t make those assumptions, but I still stand by my statement. If anyone has never heard an evangelical calling Catholics not true Christians, please see any comment thread about Catholics on theblaze. Personally, I reject all gods.
Report Post »DLG123
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 1:21pmFIGS…
I kinda figured thats what happened it is a common mistake. I agree, not all but a good portion of evangelicals on theblaze routinely call Catholics non-Christians.
Still love the handle. GODHATESFIGS… That is hillarious!!!
I hope that one day you find peace and rest in our loving God. Not here to convert you just to pray for you.
Peace and Blessings
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Jamestownrd
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 5:11pmTotal aggrement.CATHOLICS ARE NOT CHRISTIAN!
Report Post »ShotgunB
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 12:56amJames…Total aggrement.CATHOLICS ARE NOT CHRISTIAN! ??? Catholics are the only people who can trace their Christian heratage all the way back to Christ. I think you need to learn some history. And who do you think compiled the Books that were to be in the Bible? Catholics. So every time you pick up your Bible you will be reading a very Catholic book; written by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Presumption is a sin James, so be very careful!
Report Post »freedom4ever
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:40amsaw this on fox last night – made me very sad. what has become of our country? instead of drawing closer to God we are so far away from him. we need to all get down on our knees and pray – look at what is going on in our country and we keep turning our back on Him. so sad.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:53amNo real deal Bible believing christian leader is going to stand side by side and offer up prayers with the heathen anyhow. If he does, I have not respect for him, and he is out of line.
He may pray for the heathen from the various false religions, but not with them. The God of the Bible is not the god (notice the small “g”) of the Quaran, the false god of buddhaism, taoism, hinduism, or any of the other false religions.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:59amrangerp
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:53am
No real deal Bible believing christian leader is going to stand side by side and offer up prayers with the heathen anyhow. If he does, I have not respect for him, and he is out of line.
He may pray for the heathen from the various false religions, but not with them. The God of the Bible is not the god (notice the small “g”) of the Quaran, the false god of buddhaism, taoism, hinduism, or any of the other false religions.
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You are a sad little man. Hindus, Buddists and Muslim also were victims on 9/11, should they not also be honored or because you do not approve of the God they worship they are unworthy of being honored. If you were a ranger your view reflect poorly on the unfit, you are a bigot who preaches nothing but hate.
kryptonite
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 3:24pmYou are a sad little man. Hindus, Buddists and Muslim also were victims on 9/11, should they not also be honored
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@Encinom
If by “honored” you mean prayed for, that ain’t happening, thanks to Bloomberg. The right place for ALL faiths to have been represented and allowed to offer prayers should have been the 9/11 Public Observance Ceremony. Nothing wrong with that.
This is different. As stated, it is a private ceremony held by a particular group of people who want to invite certain faiths to partake. They chose not to invite evangelicals and Jews. Some of us think that is just fine. If you believe they acted inappropriately, take it up with them.
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 5:13pmRANGERP- ” No real deal Bible believing christian leader is going to stand side by side and offer up prayers with the heathen anyhow. If he does, I have not respect for him, and he is out of line. ”
If that is what you really believe, not only do you misunderstand the message of your God, you are no different from the so called “Muslim extremists”. Christianity wasn’t founded to be a religion of hate and division. Even though I am pagan, I appreciate the prayers of my Christian friends. Why is it that some of you cannot join your fellow Americans in prayer? All people of faith must come together in peace in our nation, or we’re done. Many blessings to you.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 6:23pmRanger;
“No real deal Bible believing christian leader is going to stand side by side and offer up prayers with the heathen anyhow. If he does, I have not respect for him, and he is out of line. ”
I don’t mind praying with anyone. If they pray to a pagan deity then I simply think of God. When they close their prayer, I think of my own quick prayer and close it in the name of Jesus Christ. I still respect the prayers of anyone who excercises their faith according to their conscience. I don’t think praying with someone of a non-christian faith is necessarily praying to that god. All individual prayers from all Christians may be rendered to the one true God, despite the prayer’s setting.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 8:51pmAnybody here know the verse that says…. what do the righteous have to do with the unrighteous ???????? I may pray FOR the non-believer, but not with. They pray to demonic spirits; why in the heck would I be part of that !!! To be part of a program where others are asked to pray also might change that a bit. But , while they were praying I would be simultaneously praying that there prayers not be heard…. And there you go… call me a hater if you will…
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 10:02pmWith a little more time, I am sure I can come up with many more verses than I have below. If you study old Testament, you will find over and over, any time Israel brought in the heathen they ended up adopting heathen religion, and went away from God. This is not my words, but the Bible. Fine to be a missionary, and pray for the heathen, but I am not to worship with them, in their way. I lived among the muslim for a number of years. Their false god, is not my God. I prayed for those around me, not with them, nor did I partake in thier worship. It is biblically wrong.
Jerimiah 1:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
1 Corinthians 10:20-22
But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils. Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?
Isaiah 42:8
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
rangerp
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 10:06pm@This_Individual
You speak of “faith”. Faith is good, as long as you have faith in something real. Faith in something not real or evil, is not good.
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 10:11pm@4truth2all – Thanks
2 Cor 6:14
Report Post »Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
Greenwood
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:53pm@This_Individual………you said……….Even though I am pagan, I appreciate the prayers of my Christian friends.
Report Post »How does a pagan understand the message of God? If you did you would not be a pagan.
rose-ellen
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 12:41amCatholics are not true christians? is that what protestants believe? now i feel profoundly sad that my fellow christians could really think that.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 7:08am@rose-ellen
What you think, or what I think is not really material. What the Bible says is more important.
Define Christian for us?
Bible does not define a “christian” by the denomination of church they attend. The Bible defines it pretty clearly. Has nothing to do with baptism (that comes after salvation – not one case of baby baptism in the bible), has nothing to do with what church you attend, or eating some bread waffer.. Christians see them selves as sinners, with no way to work their way to heaven. They see Jesus as having paid the price for sin on the cross, and accept that free gift.
I am sure there are catholics who read their Bible, and figured that out, and got saved.
If you are relying on your own good works, or the catholic church to save you, then you are not a christain. “By grace are ye saved through faith”.
Much of what the catholic chruch teaches is not Biblical. Mary was not sin free, she had children after Jesus, no purgetory, burning candles for the dead, no pope…..
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 2:20pm@rose-ellen… “Catholics are not true christians? is that what protestants believe? now i feel profoundly sad that my fellow christians could really think that.”
Jesus said that the way to the Father was through the Son. He dint say it was through Mary. I know that Catholics believe in God but are misguided praying to Mary as she is not God. I believe it is the misdirection of the unholy to attempt to divert Christians, however so slightly, away from the Fater, Son and Holy Ghost. I will leave it up to God to decide but they dont pray to God.
Report Post »Darren
Posted on September 8, 2011 at 8:34pmRanger;
I do not think anybody here has advocated to worship false gods. The question is whether or not to pray with those of the non-Christian faith. I pray to God the Father in ther name of His Son, period. Despite praying with anybody else, I do not deviate from my worship. If you think that by praying with others that you’ll begin to practice idol worship and astray from the true God to a false God than I would ask if your faith in Christ is so fragile that you cannot bow in worship with others? As others pray to God according to their conscience, why can you not do the same?
And while I do not accept all of Catholic doctrines and practices, they do indeed pray to God and believe that grace alone from God saves. I find that you are correct in that Jesus is not works such as baptism. But you do understand that neither do the Catholics? I think the question is, once you’ve decided to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior, then what should you **do**?
“15 ¶If ye love me, keep my commandments.”
(John 14)
Report Post »This_Individual
Posted on September 9, 2011 at 12:12pmGREEN-” How does a pagan understand the message of God? If you did you would not be a pagan.”
That is the major difference in our faiths. I can accept (and appreciate) the blessings and well wishings of my fellow human beings, even if they believe I am wrong for doing so. Not every pagan is the same,so I can only speak for myself (due to the fact that it is up to the individual to interpret the teachings of their chosen God). But having read your bible (different interpretations), I can undertsand and appreciate your God’s exclusivity to his people. Therefore I do not incorporate him into my prayers out of respect for that exclusivity (which my Gods do not require of me). Basically my belief that there are more than one God (yours included), encourages me in learning the teachings of other Gods without incorporating them into my Lararium (altar). Many blessings.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:36amWell, how else can they admire their work?
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 11:36amI asked Barrack Obama to decline the Office of the Presidency after the 2008 elections. Mr. Page can expect the identical response to his request.
Report Post »RushEcho2
Posted on September 7, 2011 at 5:37pmWatch for the TROLLS to come out on this one .!.
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