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Christian University to Make Staff Sign Homosexuality Pledge

Shorter University to Make Staff Sign Homosexuality PledgeShorter University, a Christian college in Rome, Georgia, is asking its employees to sign a controversial pledge that affirms that they are not gay.

The document, called a “Personal Lifestyle Statement,” also requires staff members to refrain from committing adultery and premarital sex.

All new hires will be forced to sign the document and current staffers will also be required to sign it when their current contracts are up for renewal. “Failure to adhere to this statement may result in disciplinary action against me, up to and including immediate termination,” the document reads.

University president Don Dowless is defending the new policy, saying, “We have a right to hire only Christians.” Dowless went on to say:

“I think that anybody who adheres to a lifestyle that is outside of what the biblical mandate is and of what the board has passed, including the president, would not be allowed to continue here.”

Shorter University to Make Staff Sign Homosexuality Pledge

University President Donald Dowles

The college defends this new pledge and says that anything outside of the guidelines would not be Biblical and would not be permitted by staff. The Associated Baptist Press has more:

Joe Frank Harris Jr., chairman-elect of the [university's] board of trustees, said the statement approved by the board Oct. 21 was needed for faculty and staff “to understand the mission of Shorter, understand that we are a school of Baptist heritage, and that we are an institution of the Georgia Baptist Convention.”

“They must understand the environment in which they work, and they must be loyal to that environment,” Harris said.

While the college stands by these ideals, some university staff members are nervous, as they fear that disgruntled co-workers might accuse their fellow workers of being gay out of spite. The GA Voice reports:

Shorter University’s new “personal lifestyle statement” has left employees afraid of witch hunts, according to one gay man who works at the Southern Baptist college in Rome, Ga.

“We now will live in fear that someone who doesn‘t like us personally or someone who has had a bad day will report that we’ve been drinking or that we are suspected of being gay,” said the employee, who declined to reveal his name due to the policy.

But the new policies don’t simply target adultery, homosexuality and premarital sex. University staff must also pledge not to drink alcohol when students are in view; additionally, they cannot promote the consumption of alcohol.

Dowles is defending the employee statement as something that other Christian colleges and universities embrace. Shorter is able to legally institute the pledge, because the school doesn’t receive receive federal funding.

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  • DesertRose1960
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:04am

    And I thought you folks were all about personal freedom and responsibility! It‘s okay to be an individual as long as you’re conforming to our rigid code of conduct and belief. And if you don’t will just get rid of you.

    Although it is legal for a relgious institution to have a morals clause or a loyalty oath, the employee should seek other employment if they are not willing to comply. The question is, why would you want someone else dictating your morals? Morals clauses and loyalty oaths do nothing to stop bad behavior, but they do give employers the power to punish employees they don’t like. It also turns co-workers into snitches and tattletales.

    This is why Liberals are so protective of indiviual rights, and rights of Gays and other minorities. Such things create a slippery slope into social oppression and discrimination. I choose to defend your right to live your life as you choose. I expect to do the same, but this seems to be a small courtesy that so many of you would deny me and many others.

    And you folks love to carp about “political correctness”. In my experience, those who complain most about “political correctness” are the ones most likely to tell other people how to live, but object sanctimoniously to anyone telling them they’re being a bully when they do. You are free to disagree with me, I will respect your right to express an opinion and to live as you do, until you actively try to impose your opinions and practices onto me.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:10am

      It’s a private college sweetie. You don‘t have to be there if you don’t agree with signing their agreements. That’s called freedom darling. When a conservative doesn’t like a product, they wont’ buy it. When a liberal doesnt’ like a product, they get the government to make sure no one can buy it. You still want to bleat about protecting freedom cupcake? Get better material DESERTROSE..your stuff stinks.

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    • mllyjul
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:15am

      DESERTROSE1960: There are other Universities out there to work for. If you do not like the rules of employment at this one, then you have every right to NOT work here. Your entire rant is senseless. This private university has every right to set this policy.

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    • JohnHW
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:20am

      Desertrose1960, You have it wrong, the people advocating “political correctness” are liberals, not conservatives. When you want to work for an organization that advocates a particular moral, point of view, etc., you expect the employees to agree with it. If not, look for work elsewhere. What is so difficult about understanding that. Would you want someone who thought rape was OK working as a police person who was assigned to find a rapist. How about someone who thinks it is fine to photograph a woman/girl without her knowing it, working as a janitor in a school. I doubt it!

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    • OldVet
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:24am

      DesertRose
      The university did not make up these rules. They simply demand that the staff observe God’s laws. This is a Baptist sponsored university and they expect their people to respect the doctrines of the Baptist Church. Any organization has to have standards. Just because you disagree with standards doesn’t give you a voice in the matter. Just find work elsewhere.

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    • wyldibrouse
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:00pm

      So you’re saying that we have to give up our beliefs and values in order to please others???? I think not. Anyone who does not agree with the policy need not work there. If they insist on working there, then they must conform to the rules.

      It seems that some folks are all about taking the rights of others to live what they believe.

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    • TH30PH1LUS
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:00pm

      MORALITY Clauses exist in all sorts of careers: military, beauty pageants, etc.

      This is a private organization, and is allowed to make its own rules. Those who feel disinclined to adhere to those rules are free to select another university.

      Heck, how many times growing up did you hear your parents say: “As long as you live under MY roof, you won’t _____________” (fill in the blank)

      Yep, even mom & dad had a morality clause.

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    • mend54jc
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:00pm

      @desertrose1960

      You want to have your cake and eat it too. You want to give the rights to people yet you don‘t agree with the rights to have an employer make a standard that you don’t agree with. You make a big deal of it because you think it should be allowed. That is God has set a standard of how to live. We have choosen to live this way. Not forced to live this way we choose. You wouldn’t understand that the church is under attack because you are one of the ones attacking it. It is ok for people like you to stand up for the rights of Gays. Yet you call it a dictator if it is standing up for the christian rights. Don’t be so ignorant to think you are the good guy here. And that you are enlightening those who CHOOSE to walk according to Gods word. You are oppressing more then the Christians are. Take a look around how many things has God been taken out of. How many things do the Gays ask for rights and in turn taking them from others. In some states you HAVE to learn about it in sex ed and the children aren’t allow to opt out. Do you fight against that stance? Do you fight for the children that are force to learn about Gays and Lesbians in school? Or let me guess you are only standing up against the Church.

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    • fcbs46
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:04pm

      What Desertrose does not understand is that these things are not forced because a christian would do these anyway. All of these requirements would come naturally Desertrose seems to think that there has to be Massey effort put into them to be compliant but the truth is the devout christian does these without even thinking about them. They should have outgrown them and if they haven’t they need to admit they are not ready for this way of life. People in a religious organization should not be FORCED to be compliant with folks like you who believe anything goes. They (as you )should have the right to set the standards of their faith. They do no require you to abide, you can be as messed up as you want but don’t push your crap on to them.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:14pm

      Have you ever, even once, visited America?

      On private property you get to set the terms if you own the property. Other people’s property are not *YOURS* to use as you will.

      Do you *ever* get tired of shilling and dishonesty Rose? At some point will you ever come to question a world view that requires you to twist and lie about everything?

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    • Texas Sheepdog
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:33pm

      Come on, DesertRose – we all know the way it really is. Progressives want to force Christian schools and churches to accept non-believers, so they can infiltrate, poison and destroy those organizations from the inside.
      This just ticks you off because, at Shorter University, you can’t force them to let you haul in the hemlock.

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    • Locked
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:54pm

      And Avengerk nails it: sexual harassment and condescension all packaged up in one neat post!

      Going to laugh if Desertrose turns out to be a dude.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:04pm

      @ Et Al, Did any of you actually read what I wrote or did you all just jump on the same cliff in the wrong? Yes, it is a private institution, and yes, it is legal to have morals clauses and loyalty oaths at private, and yes, of course, you are free to go elsewhere if you don’t agree. My point was, why do you need someone else to dictate YOUR morals, why can’t you just decide to stick to the straight and narrow path on your own? And if you do, as I do, why does it concern you if someone else isn’t? Are you your brother’s keeper? If so, what happens to individual freedom and responsibility?

      Chances are, I am far more conservative and old fashioned in my personal behaviors and morals than most of you, but I am willing to allow others to choose for themselves. But, if you read the tenor of the remarks at the time my comment posted, you will see that lots of people are crowing about imposing rigid rules onto others, and how it is such a good thing and about time, too. Many of you want to “take your country back”, which most Liberals interpret as imposing your rules onto us, so WE can live by YOUR standards in public as well as private, hence the “slippery slope” argument.

      In a Liberal society, you are free to be as old fashioned and rigidly conservative as you can possibly imagine. You are also free to be anything but. It comes down to a matter of personal choice and responsibility. It’s one thing to talk about them, it’s another thing to actually live

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    • Lonescrapper
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:50pm

      Private college. If you can make a softball team take the same pledge but opposite (must be gay to play)…

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    • starchaser57
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:54pm

      Rose, the desert to which you are referring must be between your years. This is a christian school. Christians know that screwing around before marriage, adultery,and homosexuality is sin. It is not just a choice. It is sin that harms not only the sinner but also all he contacts.
      You DO NOT want these kinds of people around a Christian school.
      If a person chooses to commit those sins he is free to teach some where else..

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    • sbenton
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:58pm

      More power to them. If their requests offend you, then don’t apply, because they wouldn’t want you anyway. The Word of God isn’t a democracy that can be bent, or changed.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:58pm

      @Avengerk, Ae, does the kitty want some milk in a nice saucer?
      @Mllyjul, You didn’t read what I had to say. I never said a private institution didn’t have the right to set up morals clauses. I also said if the person didn’t want to live by the morals clause they should seek employment elsewhere.
      @JohnHW, no, Liberals are all for allowing people to live their own lives at public institutions. “Political Correctness” came up in the late 1980s when public institutions were told that descrimination based on certain protected classes would not be allowed. The most absurd examples of ridiculous behavior were always posited by the Right. For some reason, they were upset that they weren’t allowed to call people ugly names anymore or to descriminate against those people without reprecussions.
      @Oldvet, you’re absolutely right, I have no voice at what goes on at a Baptist institution as long as they aren’t taking my secular tax dollars. It‘s also one of the things that keeps me at arm’s length from most Baptists.Do whatever you like, but not on my doorstep.
      @Wyldibrouse, actually, I said exactly the opposite. You are free to believe whatever you like, but to getting into my face or forcing me to live by your rules in public. I would go nowhere near this school.
      @Th3oph1lus, Yes, they do, and no, I won’t be going there. The U.S. Civil Service has no morality clause.
      @Mend54jc, Have you ever tried to consider how a non-Christian feels in a public situation where

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    • FoxholeAtheist
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 2:13pm

      There’s a difference between an employer telling you how to conduct yourself at work, it is an entirely different matter for that employer telling you who to be intimate with in the privacy of your own home. In a professional environment, they shouldn‘t know an employee’s sexual habits in the first place.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 2:20pm

      LOL….sexual harrassment LOCKED? My those liberal sensibitilities of yours are fragile, diddums.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 2:30pm

      DESERTROSE…you poor love. You still aren’t getting it are you cupcake? You may exercise a choice at this PRIVATE university. You may sign the agreement and attend or you may choose to not sign it and choose another university. Now..had we left the issue to lefties like you…this university would be litigated into dropping it‘s own standards and forced to accept anyone that wants to attend regardless of the university’s requirements. Then of course…silly little statists like you would begin to erode the university from within as we’ve seen take place in other institutions. You see blossom….you bleat about freedoms but liberalism is about forcing others to behave as liberals want them to behave. Is any of this draining in yet sweetie?

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    • Edct
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 2:52pm

      Since God has destroyed cities for the sin of homosexuality and forbids it because it is insulting to him since he created man and woman it is the only option for any Christian institution to forbid this perversion…..good for them for standing up for what is right.

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    • Locked
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:02pm

      And he pulls out a second bout of the sexism! Give Avengerk a hand, ladies and gents: it takes effort to troll that much!

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:29pm

      @Avengerk,Charming as ever, if a bit queenie. You really have no clue just how brainwashed you are, do you? Well, I suppose it can be argued that Liberals don’t want people to be free to treat people as if they are stupid just because they are female or Gay or colored or a non-Christian. Yes, we do descriminate against people who want to impose their prejudices on others. We prefer to allow people to compete based on their skills and abilities, merely being a White, Christian, heterosexual doesn’t automatically make one superior.

      Enjoy the afternoon, all. There’s only so much wallowing in this place that I can stand before I have to go away and breath some fresh air. You might try it, some time.

      At the risk of repeating myself, but let me say it again, since you seem to have a problem with basic English. I would never go to this school nor would I recommend it to anyone I knew, even my enemies. They are perfectly free to be as descriminatory as they could possibly ever desire because it is a private school. I just don’t want them taking my tax dollars to do it; if they don’t get public money, go right ahead, I will avoid them at all cost.

      @Starchaser and SBenton, Well, at least that is what your church taught you. Other churches teach different interpretations. Quite a number of Protestant denominations refuse to allow any drinking or dancing. My Church, the oldest in the Western tradition, allows dancing and invented so many varieties of wine, it

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:32pm

      Did you think that your appeals to the readers would make you look any less peurile and insipid LOCKED? Sexual harrassment? LOL. You‘re such a sensitive little thing aren’t you LOCKED?

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    • mend54jc
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:47pm

      @DesertRose 1960

      I have a question for you. Do you want to tax the rich to give to the pour?

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:50pm

      Gosh DESERTROSE…you didn’t keep the mask on very long did you princess? Let’s see…you used homosexuality as a derision (while preaching about tolernace for homosexuals no less…quite a feat..no..I stand corrected..not for liberals). You implied racial prejudice (an old liberal standby). You implied some kind of noxious nature to conservatives by stating you “wallow in this place” to the point of being unable to tolerate it any further. You did however vindicate my assertions about you….you veiled it in the usual “benign” liberal verbiage but you made it clear that anyone who doesn’t think like a liberal needs to be “descriminated”(sic) against. . You just had to put in “white, christian, heterosexual” like a good lefty robot didn’t you sweetie..and after you bleated about brainwashing no less? I particuarly liked the Orwellian nature of your “we prefer to allow people to compete based on skills and abilities” while as we speak, you and ilk gush over the stinky OWSers who demand that their college tuition be paid for by someone else and the “1%“ pay more so that the ”99% of all household germs“ can get more ”free” stuff. If that’s “free to compete” to an imbecile like you….you have my sumpathy. You liberal idiots just can’t help yourselves can you? And it doesn’t take much to get it out of you either. Have a nice day “wallowing” at Huffpo and Moveon cupcake. Oh now I‘ve just gone and offended LOCKED’s fragile sensibilities ag

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    • Proclaimer1
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 3:53pm

      You know this is about being with a group of people that are like minded. If you dissagree with a group, don’t join them. Go join people who are like minded with your ideals, don’t go join another group with the intent that they should conform to your thoughts and ideals.

      If you don’t like a group and what they believe or stand for, don’t interject yourself into that group.

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    • ZanesRight
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 4:01pm

      Rose: this is called full disclosure and freedom of will. It would be wrong for the school to have these morees (sp?) and values and judge you on them without your knowledge. By having you sign a contract that explains things up front, you agree to accept them and to abide by them. If you don’t agree with them and agree to abide by them, don’t sign it.

      When this gets dangerous and the “slippery slope” you alluded to is when it is not done with full disclosure or your ability to opt out. Unfortunately, that is what happens when nut jobs and special interest organizations do this on a grander scale (see Prohibition). These splinter groups make lots of noise and though they are the minority get the “contract” made law, such as Prohibition and no smoking in bars, etc. Everyone is then bound by the contract/law and there is no room for opting out and making your own decision.

      I applaud this institution for taking a stand. If you do not like it, don’t attend or work there. Better yet, start your own university where you have to sign a contract that says you must drink, promote drinking, practice sexual immorrality, and/or homosexuality. Then you can see how important these things are to the rank and file. Good luck and God bless you.

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    • survivorseed
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 4:58pm

      Christian university to make staff sign homosexuality pledge….well thats funny. Might as well ask the beer brewing company to sign a pledge not to drink alcohol or the gun club staff to sign a pledge not to own a fire arm.

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    • kellerinalaska
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 7:04pm

      Actually I don’t care if yo or anyone else is GAY…Just keep it to yourself and stay in the closet with the other freaks and don’t require me to be tolerant of the deviant behavior!

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    • disenlightened
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 7:12pm

      Find your dictionary and look up the word “private” and read the definition. Next, turn a few pages forward, find the work “public” and read it’s definition. Take a moment to understand what you have read. Now, look at yourself in the nearest mirror and say, “Wow, I must really look dumb for writing that. Everyone is laughing at me”.

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    • 45Sentinel
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 8:18pm

      To represent the faith you have to be a good role model. If you don’t like it take on another religion BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT CAN”T DECLARE AN OFFICIAL RELIGION. That’s the separation of churh and state. It’s about being free to be you. Give me a break. How many liberals are pro-gun? How many support charter schools or right to work? Just because we don‘t accept these acts doesn’t mean there is bias. It IS personal choice and beliefs.

      View is consistent and very clean. Liberals can’t wrap their heads around it. Try tolerance and love, it’s not acceptance but it is a balance of your right to mine.

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    • RossPoldark
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:36pm

      Go to a public school!!! Kudos for this Christian University. When a conservative doesn’t like a product, they do not buy. When a Liberal doesn’t like it, they sue the company that makes the product and make them revamp it to suit their own personal needs, and tough luck for everyone else that was happy for with the product.

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    • Tronix
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:42pm

      What is the fixation with the roses?…….Rose-Ellen, Desert Rose……do you come in dozens or what?

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    • grayling646
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 12:02am

      YEAH!!!! …… what avengerk said…..

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    • Peppermint_twist777
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 3:01am

      Why would someone want to work for and promote a university that they didn’t believe in and support their “agenda”. So, knowing that this Christian University has decided to have this policy, anyone who didn’t agree with the policy could apply at the liberal universities. Let’s really practice tolerance here… let the University be what it wants to be… that’s real tolerance!

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    • US_SOLDIER
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 4:39am

      This is appauling actually. First off, yes the college does have a right to do this. However, suppose there is a non christian or homosexual that has a family to support and can find no other work so “finding another job” is not an option? So theyre supposed to either be railroaded into signing something they dont believe in and remaining quiet for fear of being terminated or theyre supposed to go on welfare? I dont believe you should force anyone to conform to your standards wether your muslim, christian, gay, straight whatever. Im all about freedom but railroading someone into a decision like this is wrong and immoral. Im an athiest and I would be furious if I was working there and someone told me I had to sign this and conform to their standards or be terminated. I dont push my belief on anyone. Yet Im bombarded by christians trying to “convert” me. Its funny cuz Ive never had a muslim try to convert me in my whole life and Ive known several in the military. And before you attack me like you did DESERT after she clearly stated she was a conservative numerous times, yet you people continued with your zombie chants calling her a liberal cuz she disagreed, Im a hardcore libertarian

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    • Mjksslrcae
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:44am

      I am always amazed how these bozos can devote ten up to twenty years to studying the bible at these so called elevated bible schools and then award each other these ridiculous degrees. It’s a book thrown together by a bunch of monks directed by Pope Clementine to screw with the Greek Christians. When the monks gave him the finished book it lacked a conclusion. So Pope Clementine sent them packing with instructions not to return until they had a fire and brimstone ending to scare the be-Jesus out of the Greeks. The monks come up with Apocalypse of John. John was psychotic with dark dreams later named Saint John the Divine. Imagine making a psychotic both a saint and divine! It was all for not because the Greeks said no thank you and sent the pope packing. And that would have been the end of the bible if it were not for the reformation!

      I spent 12 years in Catholic school and I never once owned or read a bible. The closest I came to the bible was in tenth grade theology when Sister Alma Patricia asked Edward Callahan what the homes in the bible were like during Our Lords time. Callahan said: “Sister the homes in Our Lords time were like the ghettos of New York more specifically the Bronx!”

      I suggest we rent a Ferris Wheel and Merry Go Round. Fill it with a bunch of drag queens and move Gay days at Disney to Rome, Georgia next year.

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    • SANDY MILLER
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 10:09am

      What part of “Christian College” did you not understand? It could not call itself a Christian college if they accepted every immoral thing coming down the pike. Why do non Christians have such a hard time grasping the difference between your secular colleges and Christian colleges? Why would a non Christian enroll in a Christian college in the first place and then complain about the rules? If I enrolled in a secular college I would expect “anything goes” and it does so I would have no legit complaints. It works the same for a Christian college. If you want to go to one then keep your secular thoughts to yourself.

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    • ednapearl
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 11:19am

      DesertRose, I see from your postings you stated that PC come in the late 1980′s. It has a longer history than the 1980′s, it is cultural Marxism and started back in the 1920′s. Here is a link to a paper on the origins of PC.
      http://www.academia.org/the-origins-of-political-correctness/

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    • WeekendAtBernankes
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 6:13pm

      I understand the point you’re making here but you stated your case ineffectively. Labor contracts are voluntary on both ends. If you don’t like the deal, you don’t sign the contract.

      I do agree with you about the hypocrisy of *some* of the social “conservatives” out there… “Damn the government telling me what to do. The government should tell everyone else what to do.” Idiots. They’re *almost* as bad as the progs. Almost. See the “Should Christians celebrate Halloween?” thread for examples.

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    • your sensei
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:22pm

      GoJ . . . So those people who bought the building near Ground Zero, they’re free to build a mosque. Good. Glad we got that clarified.

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  • BloodyArtist22
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:02am

    I’ll join that university. I like black and white law. But what comes from it is, like the article said, people judging others, and that’s just as sinful as homosexuality. But if there are workers at the uni who act like that, then they shouldn’t be working in the first place. They should be attending the closest Occupy. So, where do I sign?

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    • jeffile
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:50am

      It’s not people judging others only people adhering to the word of God. No ill will or condemnation is given only people not wishing to associate with another group who lives a life in contradiction to God’s will.

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    • pjmarshake
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:39pm

      It lasted till today at 11:04 AM… DESERT ROSE at the top of the posts.

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:26pm

      It’s a crap school, though it has a decent sports program. Unless you want to be a basketball coach, you’re better off going to a college people have heard of, even though they will prepare you for the outside world by forcing you to endure the presence of gays.

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    • starchaser57
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 2:09pm

      You are wrong on two points. It is not not judging to say homosexuality is sin. That is telling the truth.

      It is not sin to say homosexuality is a sin that harms not it is to NOT not say that. It is a sin to not tell the homosexual that his actions are sin.

      Two: Judging others is NOT sin. Incorrect judging is. In fact there are passages in the NT that COMMANDS us to judge and judge PEOPLE by what they say and do.

      Best to read a book before reporting on it.

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  • political junky
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:02am

    Am I dreaming? Did someone really have the cajones to say what should have been said and done eons ago! Let’s see how long this can stand without the uber liberals screaming discrimination!

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    • Rampart
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:04pm

      Perzactly…More power to the University.

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  • mostauffer
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:02am

    This is nothing new, Central Christian College in McPherson, Kansas. Has a lifestyle statement that all staff and all students must sign to attend the college and there are alot of Christian College in Kansas that have similar Statements. So I am not sure why this is the 1st college getting attention. A ton of Private Schools do this.

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  • momrules
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:55am

    It’s well past the time that Christians stand up for their beliefs. Yes, the ACLU is probably already salivating at the prospect of a court case.
    The only thing that Shorter University might add is that NO Muslims will ever be allowed to enroll. Just look at what is happening at Catholic University as an example as to why.

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    • OneTermPresident
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:00am

      Exactly…

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    • jeffile
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:02pm

      Are you equating homosexuals to Muslims? Your comparing of signing an oath prohibiting homosexual behavior to baring Muslims is, at best, stretching the imagination. One is a lifestyle and the other a religious belief. Or like comparing a murderer to someone with poor table manners. You’re comparing apples to oranges. I’m sure Muslims would be allowed to attend this university. And why are you defending Muslims? You do realize, a Muslim university wouldn’t have you sign a no homosexual oath as they would just simply kill you.

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    • momrules
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 12:38pm

      @ JEFFILE>>>>>>>>>>>>>you have just confused the heck out of me. Did you read my post or just guessing at it’s content?. When did I defend Muslims , when did I compare homosexuality to being a Muslim?

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    • Tronix
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:51pm

      Jeffile,
      No, no, no. Muslims are gays, pedophiles, liars and murderers. Off course, that is the case of a Muslim following strictly what Quran says. Gays are just gays.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:51am

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    Jimmy Swaggert should have signed a ‘No ******” Pledge………..

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  • Eliasim
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:50am

    Woe to those who are settled on their lore, and say in their heart that the Lord God will not do good and neither will he do evil.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:00am

      Consider the massive radiation leak from Japan’s plant a vaccination.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:02am

      You are going to understand what the land is God gave to men even if God has to wipe out 1/3 of men.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:16am

      I like listening to Glenn Beck when he speaks about the history of America. Of course everything else he is wrong about, surprise surprise. As usually he calls evil good, and good evil just like everyone else who is settled on their lees. You see, the thing you don’t understand, and as Jacob explain that his children would do, is that you have killed a young man to my pain. Your system doesn’t allow men to raise their child in the name of God.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 1:27pm

      Oh, no Eliasm is talking to him/herself again. Have you considered seeing a psychiatrist?

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  • Furious
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:50am

    Do they expect us to bring in our prayer rugs and pray to allah too? Or why not bring in the hindu religion too? Come on really? If we’re going to call ourselves christians then we better stick to what the bible teaches. Don’t you think? We know we’re on the right track if the world hates us, because we know who it hated first! We must hold fast to what the lord say’s! Exeptance from me? Never!

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  • SafeguardOurLiberty
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:47am

    I assume it is in their right to have a pledge of this sort. An action like this will probably hurt their enrollment and I would assume this action will have a negative affect on their status as a college. I would never attend or work at a college that is so prejudice against certain people because I don’t think that is what Christianity is all about and I am sure there are many Christians that feel the same. It is only the religious right, which is a very small segment of America that would go along with this violation against everything the constitution stands for.

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    • Locked
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:54am

      The so-called “religious right” is, at the very least, 20% of America (and likely closer to 35-40%). While not a majority, it is still a huge bloc. As many other private universities have similar standards and are not suffering for enrollment, I doubt this will hurt them. And I don‘t think they’re trying to cater to moderates/liberals/non-Christians, so I don’t see this as being a detriment.

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    • OneTermPresident
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:02am

      Could have the opposite effect… and enrollment increases because of it.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:05am

      So your take is that you don’t “feel” that Christianity has an issue with homosexuality (or promiscuity, or affairs outside of marriage), thus, you wouldn’t attend the university. Ah, Christianity as “feelings” and not “a religion”, I see.

      Have you cracked a Bible, ever? Check out Leviticus if you haven’t.

      This isn’t political grandstanding, it’s very clear Biblical rule following. What you “feel” about it is irrelevant honestly. Christ didn’t come and say “Hey, do what you want, disregard the Bible, it’s about how you feel, dude”.

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    • Texas Sheepdog
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:27am

      It saddens me to read your comment, because it is proof that the “Christian LEFT” has succeeded in poisoning your understanding of God’s Word.
      During GWB’s campaign for re-election, ABC reported on “training sessions” being held by the Democrats, to teach their operatives to present Progressive ideas using Christian “terminology” to try to “attract” the Christian vote.
      Shortly thereafter, the “Christian Left” made their appearance in the media, etc. – spreading distortion and misinterpretation of the Holy Bible, Part of that misinformation was the rationalization that “real” Christians should/would accept homosexuality – in direct disregard for God’s view of it.
      But if you are a sincere Christian, you don’t get to cherry-pick which Scriptures you accept. Jesus was the Only and Divine Son of God – and HE didn’t do that. He accepted, believed, observed and taught that EVERY word of God was to be reverenced and obeyed.
      You seem to be conflicted about that, so I have to ask you: who are you following? The God of the Bible, and His Son, Jesus Christ – or “another christ” invented by Progressives?
      I’ll pray for you.

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    • NYHuguenot
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 9:33pm

      Astounding to me to see and hear the expression “religious right” 100 years ago it was the religious norm. Perversion of the scriptures by the worldly divided the church into a left and right. Anyone here who would like to read a good book? I recommend “Christianity and Liberalism” It was written by the Rev. J. Gresham Machen a Presbyterian pastor and professor at Princeton Seminary. Dr. Machen fought the Liberals and their ideas until the PCUSA removed his ordination and right to teach. In it he explains the difference between Christianity and Liberalism as he shows that Liberalism is another religion. This takes place in the 1930s but Liberalism hasn’t changed one iota since then.

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    • your sensei
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 8:27pm

      GoJ . . . No, but he did say, “You don’t have to worry about that leviticus stuff anymore, dude.” And ain’t that a relief.

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  • This_Individual
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:46am

    Good for them. I wouldn’t have gone to a school like that. But as long as we who love the ladies (and who are un-married) have a choice to live as we please, you won’t be recieving any protesting from this ladies man.

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  • BJColter Country Music Iconoclast
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:42am

    Thank GOD!!! The fight for our nation’s soul is on. Christian’s, get off your couch, let this inspire you to action. Here’s a song I wrote exactly about this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuQ8vTG1jkA

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  • hightide
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:38am

    It‘s time to stand up for what we believe before it’s too late. All Christian Schools should have the same policy.

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  • nobull14
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:38am

    some fudge stick is going to take them to court ? hopefully God will protect the school and the teachers

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  • KTsayz
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:35am

    Excellent! Excersicing their rights as a private business.

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  • TheCalvinistPastor
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:35am

    Finally a university that is not Politically correct!! Donald Dowles, I tip my hat to you brother. Way to stand up for truth in the light of darkenss.

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    • NYHuguenot
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 9:38pm

      I am recommending that people read Dr. J Gresham Machen’s “Christianity and Liberalism ” for an excellent explanation of what has happened to the church. What is now the “religious Right” was the religious norm. It is Liberalism that is worldy norm. Two different philosophies, two different religions.

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  • vigibill
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:33am

    Now if they would just apply the same standards to the student body….

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    • wbedding
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:52am

      VIGIBILL…most institutions like this do. there is an honor code and a code of conduct that they sign when they accept admission into the school. so, they know this UP FRONT. they have every right to hold to this standard as a Christian institution. if you do not agree with it, don;t go to school there. this is along the same line as Catholic University. the Muslim students KNEW they were going to a CHRISTIAN university, so they have only themselves to blame for their situation.

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  • dnewton
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:29am

    Maybe this is part of their health plan? After all if you could get all the fat, old ,diabetic and drug users also out of the plan, lower cost would be expected. Fire departments have forbidden smoking for years. This is just a natural progression of cherry picking. Maybe they should keep just one gay person around as a good bad example. I wonder what they are going to do to prevent hiring the transgendered?

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    • piper22
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:35am

      They‘ll compare that person’s dancing to Chaz Bono. If it’s just as bad, than whammo, you’re outa here.

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  • bombs.girl
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:28am

    Thank you, Shorter University .. May God bless you!

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    • On Eagle Wings
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:40am

      Amen!!! Stand by your beliefs….they may fight against you, but you stand for the truth!!

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  • Mainer forever
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:28am

    A College that promotes personal responsibility and morales? Wow!!! When will the ACLU shut them down?

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:25am

    Good. Make a stand for what is right before God.

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    • dat bee
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:17am

      I am very encouraged to take note of a university which makes very clear a standard of behavior which is in line with their basic principles. Happy to know BYU is not alone!

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    • WeekendAtBernankes
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 6:15pm

      Hateful idiots like yourself are worse than liberals. At least *they* don’t use God to justify their bigotry. Statist.

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    • WeekendAtBernankes
      Posted on November 1, 2011 at 6:16pm

      Did I say justify? I meant rationalize, because that‘s what you’re trying to do. Just rationalize your discriminatory beliefs because they must bring about frightful cognitive dissonance when you try to reason why liberal statists are in the wrong but your statist views are right. You’re both wrong, and scary.

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  • MAnderson1965
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:22am

    I like it. Where do I sign?

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  • TXWildfire
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:21am

    No government funding= no government fondling. Do what you want and the others can eat dirt.

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  • Locked
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:21am

    Not sure why this is news. Plenty of private universities do something similar. Brigham Young University made news earlier this year for kicking their star basketball player Brandon Davies when he had pre-marital sex.

    It’s a private institution and they can do what they want. If someone accuses a person of breaking the pledge (which, it is important to note, is not only for being gay) I‘m assuming they had better have some proof or else they’d likely be fired instead.

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  • cemerius
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:19am

    hmmm ‘afraid of withc hunts”? seems to me THAT employee is NOT adhering to the statement and should look for other employment before his co-workers “out him”! Also it does NOT state you cannot drink in the bible!!! Drunkeness IS THE SIN!! Jesus turned water into wine after all!

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  • JLGunner
    Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:15am

    If you don’t like it, you always have Colubia University.

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    • cemerius
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:20am

      ha ha ha

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    • Locked
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:26am

      Ah, Colubia; the place where English majors go when they fail out of Columbia, presumably? How does it feel to be a graduate? ;-)

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    • JLGunner
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:40am

      oops Columbia

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    • JLGunner
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:45am

      @ locked nice cheap shot. I wish I was so blessed as not to ever fat finger a keyboard. Oh how will I ever face my family ever again.

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    • Solidspine
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 10:55am

      Or even you could consider Columbia

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    • JLGunner
      Posted on October 31, 2011 at 11:56am

      ok, everyone can stop kickin’ me in the taters on my typo, I’m about to get my feelings hurt, I think.

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