Christians Raise Funds to Help Atheist Who Threatened to Sue Over TX Nativity Scene
- Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:00am by
Billy Hallowell
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Patrick Greene (The Athens Review)
Turning the other cheek is a Biblical teaching that can be difficult to live out in practice.
That being said, it seems at least one group of Christians is able to embrace the tenet with grace and humility. A church in Athens, Texas, decided to help an atheist in need by raising money for his groceries and other essentials.
The individual who received the aide, Patrick Greene, had recently threatened to sue over the presence of a nativity scene on public property. He abandoned the lawsuit, the Friendly Atheist blog reports, when he found out that he was suffering from a serious eye condition that could lead to blindness.
If the nativity scene was, again, erected on public land, Greene previously said he would sue ”to show that Christianity does not rule my state of Texas, the Constitution does. Christianity is only one of the many faiths represented in this state.” Now, he seems to be singing a very different tune.
The symbol he was targeting may ring a bell. Remember when thousands of Christians rallied in Texas back in December in support a local nativity scene? The Freedom From Religion Foundation, as you may recall, was demanding that it be removed from the Henderson County Courthouse lawn. Greene was among those opposed to it.
Henderson County Courthouse nativity scene(Image Source: The Malakoff News)
Despite the rift between Greene and the Christians supporting the scene, Jessica Crye, an Athens woman, rallied believers to assist Greene in paying for groceries and other needs following his retirement as a result of the illness.
“I knew of his lawsuit and threats and thought how sad it was for him to be so bitter toward Christians,” Crye is quoted in TylerPaper.com. “I thought he must have never felt the love of God through Christians. I also thought about how scary that must be.”
So, she and her church stepped in and decided to put the past — even the very recent threats of a lawsuit over a religious structure they believe in so deeply — behind them. TylerPaper.com continues:
Now retired, Greene replied that he needed some funds for groceries and other expenses to carry him and his wife, Karen, while they got squared away with the start-up of Social Security income and pay their taxes.
A check was sent. Greene said he and his wife debated whether the check might be for $10 or maybe $50 or even $60.
To their astonishment that any Christian would ignore the fact that they are atheist and help, the check was for $400.
“Why not turn this into something else? This is a great opportunity to turn the other cheek and show God’s love,” Crye said.
Her pastor, Rev. Erick Graham of Sand Springs Church, said that giving Greene the $400 dollars was a no-brainer.
“We didn’t have to think about it or pray about (it). We saw the need, he said. “We don’t discriminate on who we help, whether they are Christians or non-Christians, church members or not. We just help those with a need.”
In addition to these funds, another $500 was donated by atheists who were also moved by Greene’s plight. The man and his wife were so moved by the gesture that they actually purchased an electrical star for the nativity scene and had it shipped to Henderson County.
“I saw the nativity scene on a video on YouTube. There’s no star on top of it. Shouldn’t there be one?,” Greene pondered. “I just hope that the Christians that weren‘t a part of this contribution to us don’t mind that an atheist bought them a star.”
(H/T: Chron.com)
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Comments (127)
Kitkarr
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:39amSomeone once said that the ability to be a fool is a great gift. By David’s definition, and thus by The Holy Spirit’s definition, this man is a fool. I hope that despite the loss of his physical eyesight, The Lord opens his spiritual eyes through this act of selfless Christian love and decides to save his soul from the loveless existance he so adores. Praise God for these true Christians who outshine the rest of us. Amen.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:43amAmen.
Report Post »ProPatriaVigilans
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:37amSo, what your saying is if someone does not believe in god they lack the emotion of love?
Report Post »db321
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:05pmProPatriaVigilans – So, what your saying is if someone does not believe in god they lack the emotion of love?
No – it is not that they lack the emotion of love – it is that they lack the restrictions of accountability.
You can love something so much and you would be willing to do anything to get it. Knowing that you will one day account for every word and deed you have done in your life helps you determined the difference between Love and Lust!
I would love to have a shiny new sports car – but I am not willing to steal, kill, deceive, hurt or destroy anyone or anything to get it. It is appointed once for “all” to die and then God’s judgement – Knowing that I will one day stand before the Judgement Throne of God – keep me on the straight and narrow. I cannot be tempted nor will I be deceived – otherwise, I would of had that Shinny New Sports car along time ago.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:48pmDB321 To love is Christ.. Jesus said, “As I have loved you, love one another”.. I think it is simply impossible to love anyone, unless you have Christ in your heart. Its in our DNA.. we come into the world with that one trait.. those who have lost it or are void of it are led by another force…When your heart is black with evil or hatred then I would say Satan is there… but to have the ability to love comes from Christ!
Report Post »Pontiac
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:10pm[it is that they lack the restrictions of accountability.]
Report Post »Preposterous to say the least. That is tantamount to saying “you have to fear or must be made to fear something after death” to be moral would be testament to your lack of self control and reasoning. A corporeal existence is all an atheist has. They’re not going to throw their life away running planes into buildings, drinking poisoned kool-aid, or being imprisoned for molesting choir boys like theist do.
God is for people that lack the ability to otherwise control with their emotions and their impulses or couldn’t otherwise win an argument without turning to their imaginary bully in the sky. Philosophy, empathy, & reason can make good morals. Imaginary sky daddies are simply a catalyst to force some groups poorly thought out moral opinion on the ignorant masses without an arguable reason other than “you’ll burn in hell”.
pavepaws
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:46pmWow. As it should be. Made my day.
Report Post »Bad_Ashe
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:17pm@PONTIAC – You must have a “Logic Tank” that drains a little every time you attempt to argue something, and this tank has long been empty. Where once the logic in yours posts was flawed, you have now devolved into nonsensical rambling.
Christians don’t attempt to be moral for fear of the afterlife, they do so because their objective moral source (God) demands it. Christians sometimes fail at this…but the objective standard of accountability still holds true. Most Christians understand that you can’t really “earn” your way into heaven.
By contrast, atheists hold to no objective standard for morality, therefore what is moral is simply a subjective and sliding personal standard, which by its very nature presents a lack of moral accountability. Your argument that atheists don’t require the threat of a hellish afterlife to be better behaved in this one would be true if atheists could establish that they are better behaved and that there is a universal and objective moral standard by which their behavior could be compared. I’m still waiting for an atheist to demonstrate this, and I suspect I’ll die waiting.
Insofar as philosophy. empathy, and reason alone make for a good moral system…feel free to share examples that are not simply failed utilitarianism painted over with hippie free love a la Secular Humanism. Additionally, please demonstrate where any of these are held to an objective moral standard and are not based on an existing Christian moral framework.
Report Post »Bad_Ashe
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:28pm@PONTIAC – On a related note, you do realize that the ignorant Internet atheist insults do your position no favors, no? If anyone here is having a problem controlling themselves, it’s you. No wonder the American populace at large holds so much distrust for the militant godless and their socially autistic hordes. Of course, I‘m sure it doesn’t help that any atheist in sufficient power is more likely than not to commit mass murder. Moral indeed.
Finally, with roughly 2000 years of philosophical study, the Christian moral position is far from poorly thought out, and one need not turn to any deity be it real or imagined to demonstrate that you are an argumentative and intellectual lightweight. You are simply too small for this ride and while whining about it may get you some free cotton candy, you still won’t be allowed on the big boy coaster.
Cheers!
Report Post »The Giver
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:21pmThe love of Christ is unconditional. Our love for our fellow man is supposed to be like Christ’s love. So many people have not seen God’s love through us because we are too busy judging others. Judgement of others is between them and God… not up to us. He got a star for the nativity in gratitude for their caring deed. How precious is that! God Bless him and his family. One of the nicest couples I ever met were atheists. They had more love for others than some who call themselves Christians. May we be extensions of Jesus’ hands and feet here on earth.
Report Post »tankyjo
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:34pmYes, and amen.
Report Post »ProPatriaVigilans
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:04pmDb321 – “you can love something so much & you would be willing to do anything to get it.”
I don’t think you really know what love is. Being willing to do anything to get something is greed, not love. Love is an emotional / (debatable) chemical reaction in the human brain.
“I would love to have a shiny new sports car” So what you are saying here is that you would “love” to have the new sports car, not the car itself, or driving it, or looking at it, but “having it” again this is greed not love
ABBYGIRL1994 – “I think it is simply impossible to love anyone, unless you have christ in your heart.” So the over six billion people in the world who do not believe in christ are incapable of love? This type of thought is not rational.
Report Post »Kitkarr
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:02pmPropatriavigilans – Yes, that is precisely what I am saying. Totally impossible for those who do not know the love of Christ to completely experience, and thus, offer true love. Not a popular opinion, I know. But that’s ok, it doesn’t have to be.
Report Post »Kitkarr
Posted on March 26, 2012 at 5:20pmAlso, love could be looked at as an emotion or a chemical reation, doesn’t matter which. What it really is, is a gift. If someone hasn’t been given that gift, then they do not possess it. It is, however, readily available for those who wish to have it.
We all inherently possess hate. We have a nature that feeds off of it and procreates it. It is a struggle for all of us to defend against, even if we choose to ignore or deny that fact. Its easy to get mad, but its a little more difficult to forgive. Why is that, I wonder? Simple – love goes against our physical nature, believers as well as non-believers. It is not until the Spirit is awakened inside someone that they begin to actually appreciate love for what it truly is, but even then, its just the beginning of the war with the flesh. A war that non-believers unconsciously forfeit and subsequently, without the gift of love, lose.
Report Post »terriergal
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:20pm@Pontiac
“Preposterous to say the least. That is tantamount to saying “you have to fear or must be made to fear something after death” to be moral would be testament to your lack of self control and reasoning.”
Christians already admit they’re sinners. You are one too, you just prefer not to call it that. Even if we suppose for sake of argument that you are correct in your assertion there is no God, do you have something against them using what they must to be good moral people? (not that all of them succeed in this of course.)
“A corporeal existence is all an atheist has.”
No, that’s all an atheist BELIEVES he has.
“They’re not going to throw their life away running planes into buildings”
Why not? What’s the motivation to say alive? When Atheists do what is right and judge what is wrong, they are only borrowing from a theistic worldview in order to make those judgements. An atheist worldview allows you, however, to allow feeling to trump principle if they happen to be stronger feelings at the moment. You are inherently pragmatic and not principled. When you do act according to principle and not feeling (i.e. not out of believing it will be good for you to act according to principle at this moment, such as objectivism teaches) then it is because your God-given conscience is prompting you. You cannot escape something that is all around you and say that because you refuse to see it it doesn’t exist. That’s the height of arrogance. You can c
Report Post »terriergal
Posted on March 29, 2012 at 1:24pm@PROPATRIAVIGILANS
“So, what your saying is if someone does not believe in god they lack the emotion of love?”
No. Love in Scripture is not simply emotion. Everyone has emotions. We use the word love rather loosely but in Scripture (especially in the New Testament) there are three words for love. Eros, Phileo, and Agape. Eros is what you think it is, phileo is brotherly friendship love, and Agape is the kind of love God possesses. We are called to emulate that. But we fail in many ways.
Agape love in Scripture is a selfless dedication to the good of the other, regardless of emotion. Self sacrificing love. None of us loves in that sense perfectly. Only God loves perfectly. In that sense atheists are incapable of ‘love’ – and Christians are not really much better usually. That‘s why we need God’s agape love and his forgiveness, which is only found in Christ, because he was the only one who could pay such an atonement for us.
Love in Scripture
Report Post »Kankokage
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:37amBefore you post, make sure you read the whole article, down to the very last sentence. It is very important to see what charity can do in even the most hardened of hearts.
Report Post »MarsBarsTru7
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:01pmMy sentiments exactly.
Report Post »SpeckledPup
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:24amthis one made us pause.
Report Post »… the atheist did not want to SEE a Nativity Scene… and he is being struck BLIND.
tajloc
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:08amSorry Charlie. He is not being struck blind…He is blind. But Rom 8:28
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:47amSPECKLEDPUP….excellent observation. Seeing the birth of the messiah celebrated offended him…so he began losing his eyesight. And the same messiah he believes doesn’t exist taught his followers to help a man like him in his hour of need. God is too cool.
Report Post »Romans828
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:18amSorry, Tajloc, he MAY go blind. Re-read the article. And yes, Romans 8:28.
Report Post »Realman30
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:51pmDitto!
Talk about irony.
Report Post »This individual reaped what he sowed.
AB5r
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:22amSeems strange to help someone trying to destroy your society. Being Christian doesn’t mean being a fool. Did they even discuss with him whether he would stop his assault on Christianity? There are Christians who “help” Muslims immigrate to the West – they are not doing a good act, they are insane traitors to their country, their civilization, and their God.
Report Post »ocelot113
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:13amDon’t make it so easy to pick out the racists… come on, at least hide a little. Muslims have just as much right to live in the US as christians. Civilian status is not religiously, culturally, ethnically, or gender based. Rules, you follow them, or you don’t. I can only assume you are talking about actualy terrorists being smuggled into the US, which you‘re a fool if you don’t see a differenece between someone that disagrees and someone that murders.
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:52amOc, better to be a racist than an ignorant fool Learn something about Islam, learn something about history, about Muhammad. Islam is 100% incompatible with the so-called freedoms and rights supposedly enshrined in our so-called Constitution. The PURPOSE of Islam is the elimination of the very same so-called rights in our so-called Constitution. What about this don’t you understand? Islam cannot coexist with freedom of religion and equal rights, it never has, it never will, it is impossible even if nice meaning twits want to pretend otherwise, you are hoping to see a unicorn fly.
As for the so-called “nice” Muslim individual, understand that they have no choice, they cannot leave Islam, there is a death penalty for that. So they have to pretend Islam is fine, even if they know better. They don’t want to die. Perhaps you can see how cowardly that makes them, but it is cowardice they have lived with since birth, as their own mother would have killed them if they rejected Muhammad and Islam. Try to get it through your thick idiotic skull, Islam is intolerant, bigoted, and evil, and it is not intolerant, bigoted or evil to acknowledge that simple fact.
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:59amAnd for the record, ISLAM IS NOT A RACE, only twit morons think that. Islam is an Arab Supremacist Cult, any moron of any race can surrender and join the Satanic cult of Islam.
Report Post »Romans828
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:30amTo get back to the actual subject at hand… if you read the entire article linked here, he dropped both lawsuits because of his impending blindness, so they aren’t helping him with that by giving him money for groceries. The point is not him, but them. Helping those in need is what Christians should be about the business of doing. It is up to him and God what he does with this act of kindness.
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:47amBut Romans, there is a HUGE problem in the West today that so-called Christians are naive and dangerous in their idiotic view of the world. It is evil to help Islam, but they don’t see it that way. Any aid given to Islam or countries controlled by Islam only builds it up and hastens the day when it hurts more Christians and Jews and other non-Muslims, and continues to destroy the hope that any of the Muslims will find salvation. Islam hates the God of the Bible, it is the eternal enemy of the God of the Bible, why do Christians want to help that? ANY assistance given to Muslims must be accompanied by the stern warning that Islam is false and they are in need of leaving Islam. Assistance given without that warning only hurts everyone involved. They take any assistance given to them as weakness on Christians part, not as an act of kindness due to love of Jesus or the God of the Bible. Even helping an atheist is not as dangerous, but the way most people respond to stories like this reveals the same naive detachment from reality that is the problem associated with helping Muslims.
Report Post »TMACK
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 2:09pmAB5R –
There is this man I know. He is kind, loving, funny, and hardworking. He goes to work everyday, pays his taxes, supports his household, and votes in every election. He was willing to give up citizenship from his former country to be a citizen of this great nation. He strives every day to be a better person than he was the day before.
He is a Muslim. And he is my husband.
You’re ignorance is sad.
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:46pmtmack, save us the sappy sentimentality, even Hitler had loved ones. The problem is not your husband as an individual, it is the religion he is part of, one that he cannot leave even if he figures out the truth, that Muhammad was a fraud, and that the Koran is an evil book inspired by Satan. Rather than be so concerned about your husband I will be concerned about all of the people who are not Muslim and who are persecuted by Muslims everywhere that Islam has any numbers or control. I feel sorry for people born into Islam who can’t leave it if they want to follow Jesus instead, or be an atheist. All of the civilizations of the world that Islam has destroyed makes anyone who continues to follow Islam guilty by association. But in any case, if you like Islam so much, live in a country already subjugated and destroyed by it, we need to save Western Civilization, save our freedoms, save our future, by keeping Islam out of our countries. History proves that Islam is the greatest destroyer of lives, societies, countries, and civilizations that the world has ever known. We cannot allow the West to fall into the pit also. I care enough for Muslims to know that we need to save America and the West as areas free of Islam so that any individual who wants to leave Islam can escape to our Islam free zone and not be at risk of being killed by other Muslims. So take your insults and stuff it, your crocodile tears mean nothing. If you have love for anyone or anything, leave Islam.
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:11amWhat is called “Christianity in action.” :)
Report Post »Trance
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:06amI busted out laughing after I heard that the Atheists raised $500 compared to the Christians $400.
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So did I! I think everybody knows that Christians give more selflessly than anyone else in the world. But I don’t think it means we should ignore the constitution in favor of Christians.
Report Post »OklahomaBound
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 12:43pmTrance
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:06am
I busted out laughing after I heard that the Atheists raised $500 compared to the Christians $400.
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So did I! I think everybody knows that Christians give more selflessly than anyone else in the world. But I don’t think it means we should ignore the constitution in favor of Christians.
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There‘s a big difference which you two ldiots either don’t see or acknowledge. The atheists gave money to there fellow atheist as a reward for his fight against Christians and their Nativity Scene, the Christians gave money out of charity for a fellow human being despite the fact that the guy was fighting them. In other words the Christians were giving from their heart out of charity, the atheists were rewarding hate.
Report Post »JGraham III
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 1:50pmPerhaps here is the place to clarify the difference between natural/human love and God inspired love.
Report Post »Human beings essentially love with condition: “I will love you, but you must return the sentiment” is a good way to put it. God loves mankind in spite of what they have done (or not done). “for God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son…”There is no condition place upon it; it is there for any to accept or reject. God doesn’t cease loving those who reject Him. The christian has the capacity to love in the same manner, and I would say that these christians exhibited it very clearly. The atheists sent the $$$ because the recipient is one of them; the Christians sent it in spite of his being an atheist. If you have a problem understanding this, perhaps you need a dose of God’s love yourself (hint: get born again).
ThePostman
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:22amWhy didn’t he just ask Obama (“the messiah”) directly for a check?
Report Post »piper60
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:39amIt takes time, weeks in fact, for social security to kick in. You have to go through an interview if you are disabled by a medical issue.
Report Post »PATRIOTMAMA
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:03amThank you Blaze for running this story. This is what Christianity is all about. Being God’s hands and His feet. Showing His love to the world and even those that put themselves as our enemies and those that attack us. This makes me proud to be Christian. THIS is what True Christianity is about. Well done good and faithful servants!!!!! Well DONE!!!! This is how you show God’s love to the world. This is how you embody the bible when it says that ‘yet while they were sinners.‘ So many only ever see the surface Christians and the ’Sunday morning Christians’ (as I call them.) And never get to experience God’s love for them displayed by true believers. Well done in following that ‘still small voice’ when it called to you. Well done!!!! This is how it’s done folks. EVERY Christian should read this story. Thank you again Blaze for running it. And btw, of course they’re going to accept the star for their nativity scene it probably now means more to them than the rest of the scene pieces because now it is a reminder of how being faithful to God and His teachings reaps rewards you never expect and how much it can touch people. This is how we fight the good fight against evil in this world. This is how we turn people to Christ, showing His love and being His hands and feet. This will probably bring MANY more than just this man and his wife to Christ. I hope it softens his heart and brings him to Christ but even if it doesn’t work for him, others will come
Report Post »JustPeachy
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:03amDitto what you just said. WELL WRITTEN (SAID), Patriotmama! :-)
Report Post »ChildofJesus
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:53amI‘m relieved i thought at first it’d be different but it‘s wonderful they’re living out what Jesus said to love those who hate you and giving water as in burning coals on a mans head. thank you father for your grace!
Report Post »conservativejon
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:26amfellow christians take note. this is what happens when you love your fellow man regardless of his sins. very inspring story. makes me look at my own life and wonder what i can do to show the love of God to non-believers.
found it funny that the atheists gave more money in an attempt to 1-up the church and the man bought a star for the nativity scene.
this story warms the heart, when all we normaly see chills to the bone
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:48amSomeone ask him where is the Freedom From Religion group when he truely needs them…..
Report Post »FeliciaJewel
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:17amSounds like an American thing. We do not need government to come to the aid of those in need, we can do it with the help of our family, neighbors, friends, and our communities. So happy to see these stories. Lets all tell government we can, I Can!!! Keep your government charity. We can be kind even if we do not agree and we the people do a better job. Divided we fall.
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:09amHere’s a good self test to know whether or not you are a Socialist. When Jesus said: The love of many will wax cold. Does it mean: Many people’s love will wax cold? Or, loving many people will wax cold?
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:19amI bet unthoughtful people never thought of that one, but John knew the things you would believe, and that’s what made the thousand years of ruling with Christ come to an end, and Hell gave up all the dead. Because people would become pig-headed to demand from themselves “I love many.”
Report Post »Itsjusttim
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:30amAnd people replaced the love ‘of’ the human being, with the love of the sheer numbers of them. Meaning you just love numbers, but not people.
Report Post »RobMac68
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:45amTim..”and that’s what made the thousand years of ruling with Christ come to an end”
Report Post »1000 years ruling with Christ came to an end? Are you talking about the millenium? I was just wondering because you made it sound like past tense.
I believe a person’s love will wax cold. Not love of many. We will love ourselves and no one else.
Laus Deo
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 7:51amPut the pipe down and step away from the keyboard.
Report Post »burnbabylon
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:08pmJob 38:2
Report Post »grannyjojo
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:49amTHIS is what Christians do every day. We show God’s love to our fellow man. God loves each and every single one of us regardless of color, race, sex or faith. He believes in us, even when as we don’t believe in Him. God bless that church, they are certainly showing the love of the Lord and God bless that man and his family. I pray their eyes and heart are opened. “Every knee will bow and every tongue confess”
Report Post »tomloy
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:37amIt warms my heart to see some folks still out there who are true christians.
Report Post »TurboCat
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:53amVery decent of them. I liked how it showed love from believers.
Report Post »65Mustang
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:20amIt was a Christian thing to do..something Jesus taught.
Report Post »loneindividual
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:40amex-mormon deist here
I busted out laughing after I heard that the Atheists raised $500 compared to the Christians $400.
It’s pretty obvious that Atheists tried to ONE UP the Christians.
@TEEBUBBA you’re an idiot.
“I saw the nativity scene on a video on YouTube. There’s no star on top of it. Shouldn’t there be one?,” Greene pondered. “I just hope that the Christians that weren‘t a part of this contribution to us don’t mind that an atheist bought them a star.”
really? just about doing good instinctively? Either Greene has an agenda or he’s “instinctively” joining Christianity. I’m going with both since…he was obviously touched by the fact…that the message of Christianity has actually resulted in Charity.
Screw this “INSTINCTIVE” crap. That totally denigrates the individual/independence of the SOUL and this idea of SELF-DETERMINATION.
It’s reflective of who a person is…because Greene chose to be that way.
Report Post »loneindividual
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:45amLet Greene have the GLORY or shame of his decision.
MAY EACH INDIVIDUAL FOREVER BE GLORIFIED OR SHAMED!!!
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:01am@loneindividual
It’s good to see an ex-Mormon openly posting on here.
Those who are stuck in Mormonism need to see and hear more from ex-Mormons.
Mormons need to know that there is a Life of Freedom and Peace and Joy in Jesus outside of Mormonism.
I was “inspired” by p8riot to do my own outside of the box research on Mormonism.
Thank God For The Information Hwy We All Have Available To Us!
Mormons need to take advantage of the internet and do that research outside of what their pseudo-prophets have told Mormons they must believe.
The Secret Temple Endowment Rituals, The “Washing” and The “Annointing” and The “Death Enactments,” Are Appalling and Demeaning and Hellish and Perverted!
No Wonder The-BrainWashed-InTo-Lemming-Herd-Mode-Mormons Are Forced To Promise Secrecy Under Threat Of Death To Those Who Talk.
I’m Wondering If Law Enforcement Should Get Involved and Investigate!
Quoting Scripture To Support The Cult of Mormonism IS Blasphemy!
The Lord Jesus Christ Of The Bible IS NOT A Mormon!
Wake Up Mormons!
Report Post »Think!
Get You and Your Children Out Of Mormonism!
Find Yourselves A Christian Bible Based Church With A Pastor Who Teaches Chapter and Verse Out Of The Bible!
Jesus Loves You!
Jesus Will Set You Free!
John 8:32,36
thegrassroots
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:51am@loneindividual
Also, The Glory IS God’s!
The Glory Doesn’t Belong To Mere Humans!
This Is Jesus’ Modus Operandi —
“So He [Jesus] came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up.
And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read.
And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah.
And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written:
‘The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me,
Because He has anointed Me
To preach the gospel to the poor;
He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to the captives
And recovery of sight to the blind,
To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.’ [Isaiah 61:1,2]
Then He closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down.
And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him.
And He began to say to them, ‘Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.’ ”
~ Luke 4:16-21
Jesus Is Always On The OutReach!
Report Post »Many Times Via The Christians Who Know Him As Lord and Savior and Redeemer!
All That Any Of Us Do Is For The Honor and Glory of God Only!
We Want Jesus To Be Seen Reaching Out In His Love.
The Focus Is On Jesus!
Not On Us!
[Matthew 6:1-4]
tiredofprogressives
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:24amThis is NOT christianity what this group is doing. They are deceived into thinking they are doing the christian thing. They are merely FOOLS.
Report Post »ZeitgeistBuster
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:06amWhat do you mean they are fools? This isn’t what Christians should do? What are you driving at?
Report Post »CatholicTexanGrandma
Posted on March 25, 2012 at 9:01pmIt is the mission of the Church to reach out to the community in need regardless of their religion or lack thereof. We actually have built an addition onto one of our buildings so that we can serve the needy and our 30 plus missions. The need is great. One of these missions is to help with electric bills, mortgage payments, food, and other emergencies for those in need. Yes, that IS the mission of christianity. Not to slough it off on government, or “their own” so to speak. There are no strings attached.
That this man’s heart was changed, even in a small way, that he bought the star was a very kind jesture.
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:22amGreat story!
As one who has often been bemused by the antics of American atheists, I hope that this small act of compassion will bring a little sanity and tolerance into the situation. I think that it just might.
Report Post »REPUB1
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:12amWhats Wrong with the Pic of the scene??? anyone NOTICE?????? you so called Christians . HUH
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 8:44amJesus, Mary and Joseph are depicted as Caucasians?
Report Post »RobMac68
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:11amThe angel is a woman?
Report Post »SpeckledPup
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 9:22amlooks like a good Jewish family to us, plus one beautiful Irish angel.
Report Post »jado1981
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 10:49amYeah of course, everyone knows there were 2 donkeys there, not one. Come On!!!
Report Post »burnbabylon
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:22pmJoseph was a carpenter, why would he have a shepherds thingamajig?
Report Post »ThankBabyJesus
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 4:18amYou cannot be a pansy while living as authentic follower of Jesus Christ. Live out in that warrior spirit he calls us to be. I believe in God. I see him all around us. When Jesus, son of God, talked about his father and tree of life, and now Jesus being the vine from which we branch from, he wasn’t asking himself ‘what would I do’ rather ‘what would my father do’ he sacrificed himself and nailed our sins to that cross, buried them along with him, and rose from the dead. The awesome eternal life of God was no longer his Father, but our father.
The continued eating from the tree of knowledge of right and wrong get us no where without Gods eternal life. There is God’s character in us, by design the creator, designer of life, and the highest of highs. Do not be afraid instead ask what Jesus is doing in me, in us. We can make great advancements with this in mind.
Report Post »REPUB1
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:16am@ThankBabyJesus
Report Post »“talked about his father and tree of life.. Jesus WAS and IS THE tree of life ….. are you catholic by chance?
neverending
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:23amAmen to your message. Actions always speak louder then words.
Report Post »REPUB1
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:27am“talked about his father and tree of life, and now Jesus being the vine from which we branch from”, Jesus IS the TREE of LIFE and WE ARE the Branches!!!
Report Post »wntsmallgov
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:51amI have to give them credit for doing this
Report Post »girlnurse
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:50amAmen…Someone is actually living out their faith. I just wish the story wasn’t on here.
Report Post »Its none of our business and we don’t have a right to embarass him.
burnteye86
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:55amI don’t think that embarrasses him. Jesus died for him and did it publicly.
Report Post »burnteye86
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:57amI DO understand what you mean though. Kinda like praying in the public square.
Report Post »RobMac68
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:44am…let your light shine so the world may see. To God be the glory, and as long as He does get the glory, I would love to read stories like this everyday. Very Inspirational.
Report Post »Romans828
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:51amIf you read the entire story this one is linked to, it quotes him abundantly, and it doesn’t sound to me that he was embarrassed, or that it was unfair in any way of establishing his point of view without demeaning him.
Report Post »greatgrandma
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:42amThis is a great story.This is the America I remember, when people helped their fellowman regardless of their differences. Whatever happened to us as a Nation?
Report Post »REPUB1
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 5:19amProgress happend
Report Post »RobMac68
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:39am“Whatever happened to us as a Nation?”
Report Post »We rely on government instead of God.
Indeed, a great story to read.
Diane TX
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:32amThis is a great story about Christianity, since Christians believe that it doesn’t matter if you believe in God or not. That’s because Christians believe that God believes in you.
Report Post »Exrepublisheep
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:55amNice!
Report Post »RobMac68
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 6:52amyes, beautiful comment.
Report Post »teebubba
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 3:20amThis is helping a fellow human in need something Christians and others do instinctively. The fact that he is an “atheist” is irrelevant. Those who think it is like the reporter perhaps should reexamine their own lives.
Report Post »Romans828
Posted on March 23, 2012 at 11:38amI submit that the fact that he is an atheist is totally relevant exactly BECAUSE there ARE many Christians who should reexamine their own lives. If you are honest you have to admit that, of all the times in recent history that atheists have sued “Christianity”, you have probably not heard of any other examples of this.
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