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Christie Draws Criticism From Unions Over Pension Overhaul

In his continuing efforts to reign in state spending, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has once again angered union leadership, now drawing fire over his plan to roll back public pension benefits. Christie Draws Criticism From Unions Over Pension Overhaul

On Monday, Christie unveiled his proposal to reduce benefits and increase public employees’ contributions, claiming the cuts will help the Garden State’s budget crisis and save the pension funds in the long-run. In response, unions didn’t hesitate to object, saying the state should honor all past pension agreements.

Under Christie’s plan, the state would repeal a 9 percent increase in benefits and eliminate automatic cost of living adjustments. The plan also proposes to raise the state’s retirement age to 65 from 60. Christie says he‘s looking to ease the state’s cost burden by reducing pension payouts to future retirees and hopes to save the pensions in the long-run by requiring employees to start contributing more of their own earnings to their individual pension funds.

Christie took to the airwaves Wednesday to help sell his plan to the public. In an interview with Neil Cavuto on Fox News, Christie said “The system is completely out of control, and we are moving toward insolvency if we do not deal with the long-term obligations that the state has.”

“Now I know there are some public workers who aren’t happy about it today. But 10 years from now, when you have a pension to collect and health benefits to collect, you are going to be looking for my address to send me a thank-you note,” Christie says.

Christie Draws Criticism From Unions Over Pension OverhaulUnions and Democrats in the state legislature have responded to Christie’s plan by demanding that the state renew paying pension contributions after underfunding the system for years. But while Christie acknowledges the state’s missed pension contributions as a serious problem, he says even if the state made its required pension payments, the state would still face some $85 billion in unfunded liabilities.

If all we do is pour money into a broken and failed system, that broken and failed system will swallow that money alive, and get hungrier for more.” Christie said. “We can’t afford to continue like that.”

Senate President Stephen Sweeney, a Democrat, said he supports pension reform but not Christie’s plan. In response, Sweeney has threatened to block any pension system reform bills until the state relieves the overburdened fund. “The state has to make their payments toward the pension too,” he told Fox News. “When the governor says, ‘Well, I‘m not going to put any more money in the pension system because it’s broke, does that make it any better?’”

Christie has been in a near-constant fight with unions since taking office earlier this year, but remains firm in his intent to cut government spending — a move unions argue hurts the middle class. “Once again, Governor Christie is attacking middle class workers in New Jersey,” says New Jersey Education Association (NJEA) president Barbara Keshishian. “His proposals for deep cuts in pensions and health benefits, combined with much higher costs taken out of the pockets of public employees, will hurt hundreds of thousands of working families.”

At a packed senior citizen community center earlier this week, Christie compared his first eight months in office and his fight to fix the state’s fiscal situation to arriving to a room after a big party. “There were a bunch of drunk people passed out on the floor, a whole bunch of empties lying around, broken dishes,” Christie said. “So I showed up. Now I have two choices. Walk out, or clean up.”

“We’re going to clean up.”

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Comments (124)

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  • patriotsof76
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:46pm

    Christie is the first in the movement of new politicians who speak straight and speak the truth. He’s actually in the cat-bird’s seat with this. Either the unions agree to reform pensions or he‘ll just say that the state doesn’t have the money to pay for them, which is true in itself. This is the first shockwave in a larger movement to hit back against the thug mentality of the unions and their quest for uber-entitlements in concert with our “gang-style” government. Keep it up Gov. Christie! The rest of the country is watching and listening and we‘re impressed with your honest fight to restore our country’s principles and values!

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  • broker0101
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:36pm

    I want everyone to take note that Christie never needs to hum and haw and um and ah to buy time while he thinks of an answer that won’t get him into political hot water (or blatantly read from a tele-prompter) . He speaks what is commonly known as The Truth.This is a product of being an intelligent person who has cultivated a cohesive philosophy and doesn’t need to hide his true motives and goals. Contrast that with our fine, young President, Speaker of the House, Senate Majority Leader or any other currently serving democrat.

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    • DanglingBag's (Therapist)
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:43pm

      Noted as described. And you described it well.

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 8:00am

      @broker0101
      Well spoken and you’ve got it right. The truth shall set you free. Christie has a clear conscious and mind. He has said he’s not there to be re-elected he’s there to fix the problems. This is one guy we need in the WH.

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  • RepublicAnn
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:36pm

    NJ also spends $2 BILLION A YEAR to give the illegals free (to them) education. How can Christie complain about losing out on $400 million when he can cut $2 Billion by requiring proof of citizenship in order to register at a public school?

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  • dressseller
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:34pm

    I. Love. This. Guy. ..It’s so much fun to watch how he handles the left when they come at him. He is completely respectful as he delivers the smackdown. LOL. …Not since Ronald Reagan have I seen an elected official handle the opposition in such a skilled manner.

    He could really steer America in the right direction. I heard him say a while back that he is not looking to run for president in 2012 …and understandably he is focused on NJ.. but then I heard he is going (or went) to Iowa recently …I sure hope he gets NJ fixed by 2012 because we could use his brand of fiscally responsible conservatism all across this land.

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  • lucciocuz
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:32pm

    NJ is a mircrocosim of the whole country. Union pensions are crippling us. I love firefighters, police and teachers… but they could live on less than $90,000 a year. We have to buckle our belts. They should too.

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    • RepublicAnn
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:40pm

      There are cops in NJ making over $200k per year.

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    • REVEL
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:57pm

      I think we’re all for making money here, but the unions manipulate the system. It’s not the cops making $90,000 or whatever they make with overtime that is the focus. I believe it’s the costs of the union and the manipulation that occurs. People are earning the money and I think that is to their credit and it‘s easy to look at people in different demographics and compare but you can’t. That’s not how the system is set up. I love NJ’s governor. He knows where the real problems lie.

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  • carol m
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:29pm

    Glenn Beck is a Demagogue. Get your head out of your ass. He is not picking on the unions they are the ones making the bigest stink that is all. First of all he is trying very hard not to raise taxes on the overtaxed residents of NJ. Second of all the head of the teachers union in NJ makes $ 550,000.00 per year. Christie who is govenor of the whole state make $ 175,000.00. Why don’t you tell the head of the union to give something back to the poor people he exploits. Hmmmmm not hearing anything gee I wonder why. Wake up and smell the coffee it is not the government taking advantage of the union worker it is the head of the unions that exploiting their own workers. The should hang their head in disgrace for what they are doing to their workers. And the workers should stop paying their dues to these people.

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    • mcellu
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:09am

      we need a “like” button on The Blaze!

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  • BibleBrain
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:26pm

    NJEA president Barbara Keshishian’s salary is over half million/year. Read her comment with that fact in mind. Christie, you a genuine American Hero, just as Glen Beck defined Heroes at the “Restoring Honor” rally: Standing up and doing what’s right, even if it is hard. Were gonna need more like him to save this country.

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  • metalmeisterdude
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:25pm

    We have to start somewhere, keep making cuts-break the unions and make it more appealing to work in the real world, not government.

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  • RepublicAnn
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:23pm

    Sweeney asked “When the governor says, ‘Well, I‘m not going to put any more money in the pension system because it’s broke, does that make it any better?’” Yes, Steve. It does make it better. Do you think Bernie Madoff’s newest investors should have to contribute more so he can continue to pay those who were making withdrawals? There is no difference, except Madoff was was thrown in jail. If only we could jail those who made the ponzi schemes we call pensions law.

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  • Rubicon
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:17pm

    Governor Chris Chrostie is awesome!!! Nuff said.

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  • OhPatsy
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:15pm

    Unions have had it very good for a long time now. If you can’t afford it, you can’t afford it. Times are tough right now for everyone, and could get much worse. They should be grateful for what they have, and meet the Govenor half-way to insure the future for themselves and others. Maybe if they spent less money on political issues, and used it to better the lives of their members, they would be better off. The unions are pricing themselves right out of business, IMO.

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  • drconstitutionalconservative
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:12pm

    He’s doing it right, it is high time the unions were reigned in and made to live life like the rest of us mere mortal citizens.

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  • motomatt
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:11pm

    Christie is the MAN! His interview on Cavuto today was great stuff. He is certainly driving home the point about the corruption in the unions, and how those workers were sold a bill of goods. Christie is writing the blueprint for all Governors that are saddled with enormous debt in how to get out of the progressive abyss. You go, dude…we’ve got your back!

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  • rocktruth
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:06pm

    Christie is very good at answering questions. Excellent!

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  • DanglingBag's (Therapist)
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:05pm

    Christie is a wild man. If only we had 100 of him.

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    • SlumpDog
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 8:50am

      We need more than 100 of him. It is time for people to step up. What about you? A lot of these problems transcend all the way down to the local levels. Start by taking a look at the public school systems in your area. It’s tough to speak out I know, but it needs to be done by all, not just a few. Sorry to say folks, but if we want our country back, we have to step up to the plate like Gov Christie and others. Let Freedom Ring. I can hear it in the distance it is getting louder and louder each day!!!

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  • Thomas Whittaker
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:03pm

    I love this guy. Common sense is a beautiful thing!!

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  • GlennBeckIsADemagogue
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 9:59pm

    Union bashing seems to be popular in New Jersey and elsewhere. I feel sorry for the police and fire fighters and teachers that Christie wants to screw over after many of them have spent years and years working in a lower paying job, trading that off for the knowledge that they would at least be able to retire and have health benefits.
    Now that it’s time to make some tough decisions, rather than Christie committing political suicide in bad economic times and stating the truth, which is we need to raise taxes, he has made the correct political choice. Which is, the people affected by his proposed cuts are a minority of voters, so we can sacrifice them and he’ll still be re-elected.
    Politically expedient, but morally bankrupt.

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    • Conservitarian
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:14pm

      Incase you missed this paragraph:

      Under Christie’s plan, the state would repeal a 9 percent increase in benefits and eliminate automatic cost of living adjustments. The plan also proposes to raise the state’s retirement age to 65 from 60. Christie says he‘s looking to ease the state’s cost burden by reducing pension payouts to future retirees and hopes to save the pensions in the long-run by requiring employees to start contributing more of their own earnings to their individual pension funds.

      You may also want to acknowledge the private sector has lost millions of jobs and the public sector is….still growing.

      If youre broke and all your credit is maxed, you dont go take out another line of credit to pay for the debt you are already in. This concept is pretty basic.

      Perhaps what your username implies a reflection of self? :O

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    • motomatt
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:15pm

      You totally misinterpret his intentions, which is no big surprise to me, judging by your moniker.

      It’s not the workers that were wronged by any politician from the right side of the aisle…it was the union bosses and corrupt Democrats that are in their back pockets that have destroyed the pension plans. Just ask Rick Wagoner…then study Ford Motor Company.

      I wouldn’t expect a reply from you, however, it’s above your pay grade.

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    • broker0101
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:15pm

      Yes, the entire Non-Unionized country is Anti-Union. Get it through your heads: Union workers have been overcompensated for 50 years. Time to pay the piper….. or get an education and some marketable job skills.

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    • Independent Tess
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:22pm

      Have you ever watched any of his town hall meetings and the way he logically, thoroughly answers the union toadies? He is a straight shooter and just what we need in the government.

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    • RojBlake
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:23pm

      My understanding is that if they raise taxes much more in NJ the only people left to pay the taxes will be the people who are too poor to move.

      This is the problem, in order to get elected promises were made that are impossible to keep; what’s the expression…”your ego‘s writing checks your body can’t cash”. Well the politicians ego‘s wrote checks that the taxpayers can’t cash either. At the end of the day the money isn’t the property of the Government, we allow ourselves to be taxed to provide basic services & services that can be performed in no other way. The politicians learned that through tax policy they could get reelected so often that being a “servant of the people” became a full time career.

      The people of NJ can no longer afford to keep the promises that shouldn’t (& in fact couldn’t) be made in the first place. It is not the fault of the teachers, firefighters, & police…but we are all playing musical chairs…& the music is stopping.

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    • van
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:24pm

      NJ does not need higher taxes it needs to spend less as do all local governments and state governments and the federal government. If they don’t then no one will have anything, the country will go bankrupt. What do we do then?

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    • RepublicAnn
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:28pm

      The police contribute 8.5% of annual salary and get 80% of final salary as pensions, which continues to be paid to a spouse when they die. It‘s called a pyramid scheme and it’s illegal in the private sector. They and their spouses also continue to get free health care when they retire after working a only 25 years.

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    • Contrarianthinker
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:35pm

      DEMAGOGUE: TELL YOU WHAT. What we need to do is transfer all state pensions to the federal govt for payment. Then we could get the FED to print all the money to pay all these pensions. Do you like that idea? What is your thinking? I’m giving you chance to add something of value. OK?

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    • flyguync
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:43pm

      Do you have any idea what a small town police officer makes in NJ? Try around $80,000 a year!!! This is because they were promised (and received) huge pay increases every year that the state cannot afford. In NC a small town cop is lucky to get $25,000 a year. It has to stop at some point, and I’m glad Gov. Christie has the balls to do the tough work.

      By the way, I would love to get a 9% increase in any one year!!!!

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    • v.o.t.e.
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:28am

      better check that lower paying job concept—- municipal/gov workers average 120,000 — average american 60,000– your arguement just went out the window– stop the bleeding heart rhetoric and wake up— we can’t afford it– period–

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    • Midwest Belle
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 12:26pm

      Did you know the head of the NJ teachers union is paid about $500,000 PER YEAR. Does he/she deserve that MUCH? I think not. DO they teachers know he/she is making 10 TIMES their salaries? How does that make them feel???

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    • OkiePatriot
      Posted on September 17, 2010 at 10:22am

      Christie is trying to keep their pensions for them in the long run….believe it or not states like the federal government can and will run out of money or make their money worthless….its happened before. I’m a teacher in Oklahoma and we didnt get a step increase or pay raise this year because of the budget and I understand why. I would rather have my job then bankrupt my state and be out of a job but unions dont ever see that as a possibility….a possibility that is very real. Our country is in trouble and WE ALL have to make changes and sacrifices if we want to survive as a nation!
      God bless Christie…wish we had more leaders like him willing to mark the hard choices before its too late! The hurt is coming for our nation, question is do you want to manage it by making hard choices or just let it go till its total and complete chaos….those are your only two choices my friend.

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  • njtraveler
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 9:58pm

    I am heterosexual,… but I really do love this guy. This is the first politician I have seen in my 31 year life-span with principals and balls.God Bless Chris and see that he is protected.

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  • Dispman
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 9:57pm

    Politicians lied to the public workforce to win the next election. Those politicans who voted for these pension plans were not concerned whether the promises could actually be kept. There comes a time when someone has to tell these public employees that they have been lied to by those that they elected. Options are limited…cut benefits…raise taxes…cut spending…or go bankrupt. The debate is on…

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    • v.o.t.e.
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:19am

      actually they didn’t lie to get elected– they promised the sky and delivered on that promise– thats why its a mess– they passed things we cannot afford to get elacted and stay elected

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  • Joseph
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 9:56pm

    Good for him!! too many leaches in this country!!! If Dr. Stephan Hawkins can teach a class and write a book, Then theres no excuse for some Mc Donalds sucking welfair bucking, lazy soap opera sitting pile of Sh&t! taking my tax dollars to sit preaty and Thang…Get off your A&&!and do something with your self scumbag!!!

     
    • annoyinglittletwerp
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:57am

      The word is spelled ‘welfare’-not ‘welfair’. There‘s nothing dishonorable about working at McDonald’s.
      Though I turn 40 in a few weeks I‘d be happy to be working at McDonald’s-because then at LEAST I WOULD HAVE A JOB.
      With your poor writing skills you should be worrying about yourself rather than engaging in stereotyping.

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  • rocktruth
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 9:54pm

    Christie is the real deal!

    Christie 4 President!

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    • Conservitarian
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:05pm

      I second this.

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    • No More
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:43pm

      Demint/Christie or Christie/Demint 2012!!

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    • banglindags
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 11:45pm

      Christie will have plenty of challenges to meet in NJ. Let him fight the good fight there and inspire governors around the country to stand up for what’s right and sensible. Keep the power in the states where it belongs; drain the swamp of DC of self-serving politicians.

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    • Craig Harriman
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 12:04am

      I third

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    • Eagle07
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 6:45am

      No Way and I voted for him he is not what you think.

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    • baldwin4freedom
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 7:50am

      @EAGLE07

      Give some details into why you say Christie is a RINO.

      Some of what I have seen shows that he is going against the big government bureaucracy.

      Like I said, you make a comment without any examples then there is no reason to take you serious.

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 7:51am

      @Eagle07
      Why don’t you give us the details? Here are quotes from your posts about Christie to this thread – “he’s a RINO”, “not what you think he is” and “be careful what you wish for”.

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:48am

      @Eagle07
      Just what I expected. Your suddenly lost for words.

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    • jerseygirl58
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:59am

      I do love the way CHristie speaks…straight and to the point. I love that he is taking on the teachers union. I realize he cannot take on every issue at the same time and God knows NJ needs soo much work in order to get “affordable” again. He needs to privitize different agencies/authorities like New Jersey Transit…

      Having said that..there are some things that concern me. One, why didn’t NJ join the other 20 states in fighting Obama Care? I want to believe it was because he was new to the office and maybe wanted to go after the NJEA and other unions at first. Maybe he thought that 20 states was enough to fight obamacare. ok i accepted that.

      BUT, as of now, christie supports an innitiative signed into law by corizine administration…OUR version of cap and trade (Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative (RGGI) . It is a joint venture with 10 other surrounding states. It will greatly increase our energy costs. Our electric will sky rocket etc.

      there are a few other items that are questionable.

      I know there is no perect candidate or politician but i do hope christie comes to his senses and drops out of this program. New jerseyans cannot afford these higher costs of energy.

      This is why some people may question Christie or refer to him as a RINO. He IS much better than the past few governors but he just may not be the most conservtive out there..but damn, i do love the way he speaks..and ALL without a teleprompter :)

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    • Sick twisted Freak
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 4:08pm

      http://blog.nj.com/njv_paul_mulshine/2010/09/cap-and-traitors_better_start.html

      I love his honesty and boldness, but he is not 100 percent conservative.

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  • Reverend
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 9:52pm

    God forbid he try to get the budget under control.

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  • robert5635
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 9:51pm

    Yeah, seen the show, would make good 2012 president.

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  • Beckofile
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 9:46pm

    I want to send the thank you note this week. Promised increases in and defined pension plan is idiodic and did you here how he mentions that Republicans are the ones who passed the legislation. This proves the need for the Tea Partiers and GOP reform. Go Christie and DeMint!!

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 3:42am

      Anyone by chance hear Jason Lewis last night (talk radio out of minnesota).
      He made a good point that no one… NO ONE.. not military, cops, congressmen, etc. should be living on pensions. How can people get paid for not working? It’s a HORRIBLE plan.
      Don’t get me wrong… I support our troops and cops and firefighters. We should pay them more while they are in and we should pay ALOT more for combat pay. Other than that, 20 years and a pension is bad fiscal spending. Especially when many of those 20 year guys are pencil pushers. Come on!
      And another thing and I might take heat for saying this… but it is voluntary entry. No one is required to serve in the military or be a cop. It’s a risk you sign up for at your own doing.

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    • Eagle07
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 6:44am

      Christie is a RINO watch him

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 9:55am

      One last thought on this thread. Eagle07 is a perfect example of a liberal. As soon as you ask them for the for the details that support their accusations they develop a case of lock jaw.

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    • Buck Bagaw
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:28am

      Eagle is an appropriate name for a birdbrain. Now back to our show; Fiscally speaking,Governor Christie is a Godsend to NJ. He is the surgeon operating on a cancer, that if left alone, will consume the whole body. Some day (soon) these dogs that are barking at him now will be licking his hand in gratitude for saving their asses.

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    • ANTIPATHIZER308WIN
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 2:24pm

      Behinfblueeyes

      I ain’t no liberal, I live in NJ and yes Christie is an in the closet RINO. He gets a lot of good press because he’s taking on cops and teachers and pensions. He IS a cap and trade guy! He has no problem balancing the state’s budget on the backs of the states workers. He hasn’t made any appreciable cuts in social and welfare spending and nobody calls him on it. His attitude and appearance match his political leaning, i.e. a RINO. He also uses a lot of half truths to make his points. No every state and municipal worker is making 6 figures and pulling in a gravy train. I know of a lot of good people that are going to be hurt by what he’s doing and NONE of what he is doing is going to affect the State Legistlature or himself re: benefits, pension, etc.

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  • M31Sailor
    Posted on September 15, 2010 at 9:41pm

    They should pay him by the pound
    Sailor

    M31Sailor  
    • Beckofile
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 9:48pm

      They will probably not pay him with the pound because the UK is broke also. Probably the Yuan or some other asian currency. He could take the American Peso but it to is not worth the paper it is printed on. I think this is what the story is about WE”RE BROKE!

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    • Contrarianthinker
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 9:49pm

      So your only commentt is to make fun of the facthat he is overweight? Unless you do some posting discussing your obejections with sound reasons, I will ask that you be removed from this forum. Do you understand? Take me seriously. OK?

       
    • M31Sailor
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 9:58pm

      Con

      Have you ever heard of him talk about himself?? Hes funny as hell and I support everything hes doing.

      If your serious about reporting me ill do it myself Are u the editor from huffpo??

      Sailor

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    • OhPatsy
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:08pm

      Contrarianthinker-I agree, if people can only add snarky comments or out-and-out lies, they need to find somewhere else to play. I am all for dissenting views, I will debate the issues with anyone, but you have to bring SOMETHING to the table.

      OhPatsy  
    • broker0101
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:08pm

      Hey, CONTRARIAN, “Lighten up, Francis.”

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    • broker0101
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:11pm

      You too, PATSY.

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    • Independent Tess
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:16pm

      I think I’m in love!

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:18pm

      @Contrarianthinker
      Who put you in charge of the comment board. Why don’t you shut up and stick to the subject. Sailor ignore this nut. If he wants to be a cyber bully I’ll take him on. I eat clowns like him for breakfast.

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    • M31Sailor
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:28pm

      Take you seriously? Please

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    • OhPatsy
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:29pm

      I was not talking about anyone in particular, I was talking about in GENERAl. As far as I know, I am allowed to say I want, within reason, and don’t need you to tell me to “lighten up”. You are not in charge either, BROKER0101. Are we clear??

      OhPatsy  
    • M31Sailor
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:35pm

      Seems to be two truths in life

      1 Progressives have no sense of humor

      2. They never open their own wallet

      Take me seriously Ok

      Sailor

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    • broker0101
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:38pm

      Clear as mud, PATSY. Don’t ever threaten me again.

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    • Contrarianthinker
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:41pm

      Netiquetts asks that when you make such a remrak you put a smily so we know what your comment is about. Sorry I misintrepted your post.

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    • Contrarianthinker
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 10:46pm

      BLUEYES: I suppose then that you like it when trolls post here with silly remarks? That‘as OK but I don’t. From later posts by Sailor, I see that his post was meant to be humorous and I apologized publicly. I also suggest to all to use netiqeute so such misunderstandings don’t occur in the future. But I would point out that the owners of this blog have placed a feedback device whenever someone feels a post is inapproapiate. I happen to beleive it should be used. In fact, use it on me IF you wish OK?

       
    • OhPatsy
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 11:02pm

      BROKER 0101-Why are you trying to manage my comments? There was clearly, no threat. You are probably just not used to having someone respond to your snarky comments. Sorry.

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on September 15, 2010 at 11:26pm

      @Contrarianthinker
      Your the one theatening to report people. I don’t need to report you or want to. If you knew anything about Gov. Chris Christie you would have realized that Sailor was giving the Gov a compliment. But obviously you don‘t so if you misunderstood him it’s because of your lack of knowledge and not smiley faces. Before you start trying to control the conversation and theatening people you should know what your talking about.
      Please spare us the lesson in netiquette.

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    • henryclay
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 2:03am

      Christie for president…And yes he is funny about himself all the time….Ease up and remember love conquers evil….

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    • JJ Coolay
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 3:31am

      Wow… where did this thread go?
      Threat here, threat there!! This was actually fun to read! lol
      Geez people, chill out.
      No one is swearing or using all caps or anything “report” worthy, so what gives?

      As for the ACTUAL story…. Go Christie!! I like this guy.

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    • bookhound63
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 7:02am

      I understood the comment and thought it was funny. I think people are just touchy because of Dingleberry (where is he anyway?) and others. IMHO Christie is the standard to which all Tea Party candidates should be held.

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    • 79USMC83
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 7:23am

      This man is trying hard to fix a broken system. The Left says anyone wanting to stop the spending is hurting the middle class. Same ole Left talking points,lets pour money into it. Throughout the country it is these pension plans that are one of the main reasons states are hurting. Is the middle class defined as anyone that is UNION and getting a pension. What about the poor middle class that only has a 401k that has been destroyed or only Social Security to rely on. It seems that these WE THE PEOPLE are funding all the pensions also. The “Speech Giver” just keeps pouring money to these BROKEN special interest and it IS destroying the country!!!! Class WARFARE Union pensioners against all other of WE THE PEOPLE !!!! Here is an idea the Union pensioners should ONLY get back when they retire what they pay into just like the majority of WE THE PEOPLE get from Social Security!!!

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    • v.o.t.e.
      Posted on September 16, 2010 at 10:14am

      what part of broke don’t the unions get— their arrogant clinging to wages and benefits that are unaffordable are the epitome of greed and selfishness– they should be ashamed of their behavior– i was a union member in my youth — they will realize very soon that this selfishness is making the grassroots mad and you know what happens when we get mad– we will v.o.t.e.

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