City Councilman Defends Naming His Dog ‘Muhammad’
- Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:22pm by
Tiffany Gabbay
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A city councilman in San Juan Capistrano, California, has come under fire by Muslims and local council members alike for naming his dog Muhammad and later announcing it during a city council meeting. Councilman Derek Reeve is not backing down, however, stating on Tuesday that the decision to name his dog Muhammad was not meant to be offensive but was rather abut his family exercising their freedom of speech.
According to the local SJC Patch, Reeve’s dog-naming came on the heels of the councilman explaining to his children that in some parts of the Islamic world, they could be sentenced to death for using the Muslim prophet Muhammad’s name in a fashion deemed inappropriate.
Reeve reportedly first divulged his dogs’ names, “Muhammad” and “America,” during a September 6 vote on plans for a local dog park.
That’s when some, including fellow councilman Larry Kramer, were rubbed the wrong way, prompting a discussion on proper “decorum” for council meetings to ensue.
“I’m asking for decorum on the dais. Yet if we can’t do that, all is lost,” Kramer said.
Patch adds:
“We are in a position of authority. It’s important we choose our words wisely,” Kramer said. “I hope the council will say this kind of speech is not OK.”
Kramer asked the council to discuss its standards of conduct and to rewrite its rules on decorum—requests that went unfulfilled.
Reeve, commenting on the 45-minute discussion that ensued with comments from the public, said, “What’s most offensive [to me] is that we’re not talking about anything important. We’re talking about my damned dog.”
Some residents agreed. Several who spoke during a public hearing said they preferred to have the council focus on other, more “pressing” issues, such as the city’s infrastructure, high water rates and finances.
On Friday, the Los Angeles chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) asked Reeve to apologize for his remarks, stating he showed “disrespect toward Islam’s revered prophet Muhammad by making [the] derisive public comment.”
As a result, Reeve, during his subsequent explanation, referred to CAIR as a “terrorist organization” and was reportedly upset over the organization’s reprimand.
But CAIR and Kramer weren’t the only ones to voice disapproval. Citing a Muslim in the audience who was offended by Reeve’s comment, Mayor Sam Allevato weighed in, stating ”You have to be really careful about what you say.” He added that “these types of comments are not acceptable” and could lead to a hostile work environment for City Hall employees.
Not all are coming down on Reeve, however. Karen Lugo, a Riverside attorney who specializes in free speech, said “council members are free to speak in their individual capacity as public leaders.”
“There is just simply no authority” to regulate decorum, she said.
Since Reeve’s comments were picked up by local and national media, he has reportedly received roughly 100 emails showing support.
Do you think naming the family dog Muhammad then divulging it publicly was an act meant to offend Muslims, or was Reeve simply exercising his freedom of speech?





















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dealer@678
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:43pmJust name him Satan and and be done with it
Report Post »Suzee
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:01pmYeah or Jesus………This a great name for all those that have those lil pigs people have as pets: name them Muhammed……….how many 4-H kids across this nation that raise and show pigs can we get to name their pigs ‘Muhammed’……..Listen if you do and cair comes after you…….Americans everywhere will donate to your defense……..in fact we will travel to protect you……..Remember this is America and this nonsense must stop but we all have to get up off our butts and serve our country!
Report Post »Remember way back what phrase we all were taught to type to get faster on the typewriter (which was the start of all computer keyboards) “NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL GOOD MEN TO COME TO THE AID OF THEIR COUNTRY!’
Ookspay
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:04pmIf I was the dog I would sue for defamation of character.
Report Post »Ditto Head
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:09pmHow about naming the dog’s turds after muhammad? That would be less insulting to the dog.
Report Post »Postolic
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:17pmLet me get this straight. It’s ok to dip a crucifix in urine, smear feces on a statue of the Madonna, and make vulgar remarks about Christians in general, all under the protection of freedom of speech. However, this man names his dog “Mohammed” and it is in appropriate? How is it any different from what has been done to Christianity? Is it because Christians do not fly air planes into sky scrapers, or place explosives on their children and blow them up in crowded buses? I’m just wondering.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:21pm@dittohead, now that was frekin’ funny!
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:27pmRumor has it that Barney Frank has two pet gerbils named, Muhammad and Allah,
Report Post »mils
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:38pmare they talking about Muhammad the pedophile of muslim fame??? that is damned insulting to the dog! puke..
Report Post »Soul Leister
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:39pmSo much for naming my half black lab (and half white lab) barack the magic *****… imagine all the buised dog egos, being named ‘spot’ or ‘rover’… Zues seems to be okay… I thought that was a god’s name… so any name seems to be okay, so long as its not Fatima or (insert common muslim name here, like Mohammad) then its not some kinda insensative crime??? Praise be to Allah while we still can (which is Halla backwards… didn’t Gwen Steffani have a song like that??? Can I have an Amen… thank you Brian Williams for bringing that to our attention when you were taking cheap shots at right wing christians… funny thing the left thinks there are no left wing christians??? only ever a religious right… like there are no religious people on the left… only commies, socialists, facists, and DNC script readers).
Didn‘t NBC’s Brian Williams make a big deal about the spelling of god is dog backwards, during the nightly news just a couple months ago??? So Mohammad backwards would be dam-mahom (sounds like damn my home)… that should be okay too (according to the liberals like Williams). Funny story Mohammad has “HAM” in the middle just like the sandwich… hehehe (what will they complain about next?).
Report Post »CatB
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:46pmWhat’s the problem ?.. we have a President with the middle name of Hussein
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:52pmI sure wish he had a pet pig instead….
Report Post »patzerpatriot
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:54pmMaybe he named him after Muhammad Ali – was the dog a boxer too?
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:55pmWhat breed is the dog…a boxer perhaps?
Report Post »AmericanPatriot01
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:20amI was gonna name my next dog Allah, funny that this article came out when it did? LOL
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:37amIf homosexuals can usurp the word “gay,” can we give a new name to pedophiles? Like, maybe “Mohammed”?
Report Post »Im2Big2Fail
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:38amName your dog, Allah Akbar…so when he gets out you can run through your neighborhood screaming Allah Akbar!!! Now that would make the local news..
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:41amSa Juan Capistrano…isn’t this the same city fining homeowners for hosting bible studies in their homes?
Report Post »Any_One_But_Obama
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:14amI agree that he should not have done that, though it is a free nation we would be up in arms if someone named their job Jesus, Christ, God, etc. There is freedom and then there is respect and this guy shows no respect to someone else’s faith.
Then again, when we are talking about respect, etc. Remember what the imam said we Navy Team 6, God rest their souls, killed bin Laden: ‘Obama will soon hang;‘ ’ The western DOGS are rejoicing after killing one of our Islamic lions’: http://www.americanparchment.com/video/2011/may/imam_muslim_lions.html
TAKE THAT WHAT YOU MAY…
Report Post »Darren
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:25amSoul Leister;
Dude, you cracked me up.
Report Post »Mtroom
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:27am“We’re talking about my damned dog.”..I think that statement is the funniest of all….Mohammad the damned dog.
Report Post »Puppy
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:37amI’m glad someone is standing up to this Bull s*#t PC crap! Mohammad is a fine name for a dog.
Report Post »anOpinion
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 2:15amI think he did it to show that free speech cannot and should not be suppressed by intimidation from islam or anything else.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 3:11amMuhammad’s favorite treat? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CErapf79rqM&noredirect=1
Report Post »Mrtoohappy
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:20amTo bad it’s not a PIG!!!!!!!
Report Post »JJ Coolay
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:34amIM2BIG2FAIL… Funny!!
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 6:42am@Postolic
BINGO! Christians are not violent (some cults who claim Christianity are, but most Christians denounce them, unlike the mythical Moderate Muslims), so they’re open season. Rub a Muslim the wrong way, and you’ll get a death sentence put out on you….what is that called, a fatwa?
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:33am@Im2Big2Fail
“Name your dog, Allah Akbar…so when he gets out you can run through your neighborhood screaming Allah Akbar!!! Now that would make the local news..”
rotflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »I think you topped them all.
Locked
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:55amMeh. Christopher Moore had a character do this in “A Dirty Job” (which is hilarious and I highly recommend, by the way). The character got confronted in a dog park by an Islamic preacher who yells and scares his daughter to the point that she bursts into tears. Unfortunately for the preacher, the guy’s daughter has the power to kill instantly, and he promptly falls dead :-) Many laughs were had.
Report Post »Lars Skipole
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:59amI’ve known some dogs like that.
Report Post »no_more_harkin
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 8:34amWould CAIR care if he named the dog Jesus? No, wouldn’t even make the news.
Report Post »I_am_awake_now
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:02amim2big2fail
ur post made me laugh out loud!!!!!!
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:25amWelcome to America you ragheaded CAIR terrorists…It’s called free speech…You don’t like it go back to your $#i&hole country. Offended? Come see me at my house. Its full of bacon and I flush a Mohammed look alike every morning…. Bow to Mecca all you want, I don’t care, but I have a right to think and call you a fool!
Report Post »Bill in Texas
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:35amI’m offended that the un named Muslim in the audience was offended. Get real. This PC junk doesn’t work anymore. Can you say FREEDOM OF SPEACH?! On that note CAIR can go jump in a dry lake from a high bridge.
Report Post »That’s terrible, I shouldn’t have said that. Forgive me Jesus.
DanWesson455
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:55amI call my toilet bowl QUARAN….does that make me a bigot? It is only made of porcelain.
Report Post »rubydee
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 10:35amIm2big.
Very funny.
Poor doggy. Having to live with that name.
Report Post »Olieman
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 10:45amTO: San Juan Capistrano Council & CAIR…..
Report Post »This seems to be an appropriate time to use MY 2011 motto. G F Y !!!
Jim in Houston
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 11:40amOokspay: ROTFLMAO!!!
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:57pmHe should have more accurately named his dog’s TURD Muhammad.
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 2:01pmThis is the greatest Country on the world !!!
Report Post »The main reason is the Constitution, which gives us individual liberties. Those liberties give me the Freedom to:
1) Dislike Muslims or whoever else offends me.
2) State openly or express without fear or retribution, that I Dislike Muslims.
3) Name my dog whatever I want.
This is an amicable version of my thought, and can easily be abrogated by an odious version.
Faith1029
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 2:31pmWhoever does not like it here in the USA, no matter what their race, creed or color is, if they don’t like our rules and the way we live, then they can go back to the country they came from and leave us alone. These people come here and want to change us to the country they came from. This is getting really bad here and it’s time people stop bowing down to all the political correctness. All it’s doing is creating more division between people. Why is the USA bowing to Islam? That’s what I want to know.
Report Post »LuigiK
Posted on September 23, 2011 at 10:29pmWhat’s the problem? My dog’s been called Jesus since he was born (Xmas day 2001) and our cat’s name is Judas. They’re great buddies. Jesus won’t fetch sticks unless I tie two of them together in the form of a cross, then he really gets into it. My neighbor’s car has a license plate that says JEW-041 and nobody has ever complained about that.
Report Post »violentcross
Posted on September 24, 2011 at 11:23pmTruth is that we are morally bankrupt, this nation is full of hatred and biggotry…so full of our slefe, we think we are so superior to others …very uneducated people and extremely low class .
Muslims were the first to stand up and defend Jeesus when the jews called him a ****** and gay on national TV while not single on of us cared .
we have become a trashy nation .
This council man should pay a very dear price for is insult to Islam , but justice in lost in America for ever and every one of us is to blame.
SUZEE
Report Post »as for you , what can i say accept that i am embarrassed for you for defending a trouble maker , is this the free speech that you people want , is this how you will raise your children , ? no wonder crime rates are very high, no wonder our religious leaders rape and molest our children inside of the churches . …. what a racist biggoted Nation !!!
scout n ambush
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:43pmHad a friend who named his tomcat mohamad but what the guys little pug dog did to that cat was twisted i tried to stop him the first few times but that cat would go to him.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 1:25amJust so wrong on so many levels. lol
Report Post »bigsir74
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:42pmFirstly Mr.. Reeves could not call Barack Obama by his middle name ‘Hussein’,now they do not want Mr. Reeves to call his own dog “Mahammad’. Mr. Reeves I want you to rename your wonderful dog ‘Mahammad Hussein’. God bless you and your family.Thank you Allen
Report Post »hersey10
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:42pmEffective immediately , I have renamed my cat Muhammad , she loves to eat bacon too .
Report Post »Wayne
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 2:30pmI thank thats a good name for a pile of Dung, Muhammud and allah are both DUNG and I hope all the muslims are offended, and if you don’t like what we say get out of OUR home land get out,because we will fight you till we turn cold from death.
Report Post »unsafe
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:41pmMy pig is muhammad and she loves the name but its short for me ( I love getting MY Ham Mad for it)
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:03pmMY hog is MO-HAM-OD…Dose that count??
Report Post »randy
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:41pmIslam’s revered prophet Muhammad???? WHAT?????
Islam’s revered prophet Muhammad is a G/D Pedophile!
I think I’ll name my pet pig Muhammad. Just wish I had a pet pig :(
Report Post »ProbIemSoIver
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 4:13pmyou mean muHAMmed ?
Report Post »eramthgin
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:41pmWho thinks he will be dead within a year?
Report Post »eramthgin
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:40pmEvery time CAIR pipes up everyone should do the same as Rep. Allen West said to them “NUTS” and leave it at that! Takes two to argue.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:40pmFear of the peace loving muslims apparently runs rampant in California!!
Report Post »BornandBredintheUSA
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:38pmOh my gosh! This is hysterical! Muslims hate dogs, so this is perfect! Man, I hope the dog is black! That would be the icing on the cake!
Report Post »Junter
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:38pmCouncilman Derek Reeve way to go! I’d be proud to have you represent me. Larry Kramer needs to get his priorities straight or resign.
Report Post »BannedByHuffpo
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:38pmName him allah. Teach him every time he hears akbar to take a dump. HA HA HA HA!
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:10pmAnd if he goes in your neighbor’s yard, they will ask you to clean up Allah’s akbar? Hmmmm . . . and if they are Muslim . . . hmmmm. Sounds like a good bit for a sitcom. Copyright it.
Report Post »bassist237
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:15pmHAHAHH!! That about made me lose my stool, up in here, up in here.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:41pmOh . . . and the stuff keeps piling up because the Muslim neighbors just won‘t ask you to clean up Allah’s akbar?
Report Post »lacabeza
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:46pmHilarious!!!! ROFL
Report Post »MSBrewer
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:37pmWhy does the last sentence call into question his intent? Does his intent really matter? It’s not about what he meant by what he did it is whether what he did should be made illegal through a city council or government organization at all? Is it ridiculous sure but if they want to hold this up as an example of racism or someone‘s hurt feelings then let’s talk about that. Grow thicker skin and realize that people will say things you don‘t like and you will say things people don’t like but nowhere do you have the right to not be offended. Deal with it.
Report Post »Hiswill
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:37pmHere we go again, tip toeing thru the tulips trying to be politically correct.
Report Post »Cherynn
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:37pmIts a free country, he can name his dog what ever he wants so go pack sand moooooslims. It makes me want to go out and buy a pet rat so I can name it allah.
Report Post »blkold7
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:46pmA pig would be better
Report Post »bassist237
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:15pmOr a rat pig..
Report Post »JasonFreelance13
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:54pmManbearpig
Report Post »chuck_wagon
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 9:35amJasonfreelance13:
Report Post »Not that’s funny!
I think I’ll get a pair of potbellied pigs and name one Gore and the other barry!
Casca1
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:37pmExcellent! There ARE still some strong Americans who will NOT bow down to the muslim threat. The guys who did the episode with mohammed caved in to the threats. We must stand up to this 14th century mindset of these radicals and tell them to go straight to allah if they don’t like what we say.
Report Post »Anton Phibes
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:36pmWhat disability does the man in question suffer from? Thats of more interest than the nominer of a canine to me.
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:45pmThe non-Muslims attacking him are the ones with a disability, they suffer from NoballsPCheadinAssNambyPambism and are a danger to our society, as traitors they should be put to death.
Report Post »Miyegombo Bayartsogt
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 2:26amWhat ever disability he may or may not have, the man has no shortage of balls. He is an example we should all aspire to live up to.
Report Post »BSdetector
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:49amI see no disability. I see the strongest man on that council standing up to a murderous cult of pedophile worshipers.
Report Post »rubydee
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 10:42amWho cares about his physical disability. His brain seems to be working just fine.
Report Post »Frogginit
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:36pmI think I’ll teach my dog to kill other dogs and name him Islam.
Report Post »Soothsayer
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:45pmHa!!
Report Post »You made me laugh!
Chuck Stein
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:16pmI laughed, too.
Report Post »muzikant
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:56amPass it on to Michael Vick
Report Post »Casca1
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:36pmExcellent! There ARE still some strong Americans who will NOT bow down to the muslim threat. The guys who did the episode with mohammed caved in to the threats. We must stand up to this 14th century mindset of these radicals and tell them to go straight to allah if they don’t like what we say. F em.
Report Post »Harvickfan29
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:36pmThis morning my stomach was hurting so I went to the bathroom and took a big Muhammad. When I was finished I wiped my Islam.
Report Post »powedj
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:43pmI too just dropped Muhammad off at the pool.
Report Post »downstate willi
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 12:30pmI just pushed out a really messy muhammed.
Report Post »“Honey, are there any pages left in that book with the squigly letters?
We’re out of teepee.”
kapnkd
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:34pmEnough of the “PC” nonsense. It is HIS families dog and whatever they name it is indeed their business. Muuuuslimes, get over it!!! If you are that upset, go back home to live!!!
I think I’ll change my dogs name to Alah …But then too – I don’t want to insult my dog!!!
Report Post »Amica
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:33pmI can’t say whether naming his dog Muhammad was intended to be offensive, but he can’t really complain about “not talking about anything important” when he made a point to announce the dog’s name at a public meeting in his official capacity.
Report Post »FaithfulFriend
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:33pmAtta boy Muhammad. I stand with Reeve.
Report Post »CHICAGOTHUGBUCKET
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:30pmI am naming my dog muhammad so gay! I mean that in the happy sense of the word. If he were a female bitch I would name him Nancy Pelosi.
Report Post »kapnkd
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:36pmOuch, that’s more like animal cruelty naming the dog “Nancy Pelosi”!
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:48pmI’m looking for a good Name for my Pot Belly Pig…..HMMM !!
I will definitelly name the female Nancy……..
Report Post »kindling
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 11:16pmI have sheep named Ram Emanuel, Hillary, Michelle Obaaaaama, Baaaaarack Obama, and Dolly Lamba. There is a buck in with them by the name of Billy Clinton. He butts heads with Ram when he is chasing Hillary around. Baaaaarack doesn’t care if Ram chases Michelle around.
Report Post »drago
Posted on September 22, 2011 at 7:38am@Mibugnu2
Report Post »How bout Nancy Piglosi just a thought………..
Blazer123
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:25pmGood for you councilman :-D
Report Post »AMERICA4EVER
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:32pmBow-wow
Report Post »smokeysmoke
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:34pmya his arguement is 100% correct… telling your kids… look how great america is… you can say and do things that they will KILL YOU ELSEWHERE FOR… its just too bad the PC police are here trying to shut him up…. CAIR IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION BY ONLY STANDING UP FOR 1 SELECT GROUP OF PEOPLE AND HATING ON THE AMERICAN JUDEO CHIRSTIAN ETHIC…
Report Post »Large Eagle
Posted on September 21, 2011 at 10:37pmAbsolutely
Just like George Foreman naming his boys George 1 and 2 and 3
I have three hogs and Mu“ham”mad is the biggest – Mu“honey ham”mad is my sow and Mu“mar ham”mad is their cousin. They like being scatched on the back when they are eating.
I just love ranching
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