Crime

Civilian‘s Drone Busts Plant Dumping ’Huge Stream of Blood’ Into Texas River

When a Dallas man flying his small unmanned aviation system (sUAS) equipped with a camera spotted a stream of blood flowing into the larger Trinity River in Oak Cliff, Texas, he reported it to authorities.

Dallas Drone Pilot Spots Stream of Blood Flowing Into a Texas River

Blood seen flowing from Cedar Creek into the Trinity River. (Image via sUAS News)

According to the local CBS affiliate, it was traced back to a local meat packing company — the Columbia Packing Company — which was illegally dumping animal blood into Cedar Creek, the company is now under both state and federal investigation. The company has denied knowledge that this action was intentional.

sUAS News reports the account of the man who snapped the image of the plume of blood (he preferred not to be named):

I was looking at images after the flight that showed a blood red creek and was thinking, could this really be what I think it is?  Can you really do that, surely not?

Whatever it is, it was flat out gross.  Then comes the question of who do I report this to that can find out what it is and where it is coming from.

[...]

The Coast Guard staffed 800 number was answered immediately, and I explained to the officer what I had seen and how.  I asked if I had called the correct place, and was assured that I had.  The officer took my report and asked me quite a few questions.  I then asked what was going to happen from here, and I was told that the appropriate authorities, including the TCEQ (Texas Commission on Environment Quality) would be notified.  A local investigator was dispatched within 20 minutes and onsite within another 20.

CBS reported last week that the Texas Environmental Crimes Task Force had been investigating the plant for two months and with this photo evidence brought in the Environmental Protection Agency, the Texas Parks and Wildlife, and Health and Human Services. A search with a warrant by these organizations revealed a pipe not that was not connected to the waste water system, CBS reported:

“I think they discovered a secondary pipe again is my understanding, so the question is who installed the pipe and why was it there,” [Health and Human Services chief Zach Thompson said.]

Watch a local Fox report:

Investigation: Pig’s Blood Flowing into Trinity River: MyFoxDFW.com

In a statement on Monday, the plant said that it would not “intentionally engage in the activities recently alleged in the media”:

It was surprised by the allegations raised last week and was previously unaware of any such concerns. When notified of the potential issues, it fully cooperated with the government officials to answer any questions and to take any necessary action. Columbia ceased operation pending approval  from the governmental agencies to resume its normal operation.

Dallas Drone Pilot Spots Stream of Blood Flowing Into a Texas River

(Image: sUAS News)

sUAS News considers this a victory for the citizen drone pilot stating that “making a positive environmental difference.”

The Dallas plant is not the only meat packing plant being investigated at this time for its disposal of animal byproducts. The Telegraph reports that a plant in Poland is being investigated for similar issues that sent blood shooting out of man holes. Check out the Telegraph video evidence:

[H/T Gizmodo]


Comments (131)

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  • GollygeeMrwilson
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:45pm

    There is an old saying in the slaughterhouse game about pigs. “The only thing that goes to waste is the squeal!” Dumping blood is tantamount to dumping cash.

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    • TXPilot
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:54pm

      Hmm….Don’t the Muslims always talk about rivers running red with blood? I guess they were right after all.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:55pm

      Well we can be assured that the Muslims wont be building a mosque there…

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:58pm

      6% of poll responders work at meat packing plants.

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    • db321
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 4:29pm

      Where can I get a Drone – I want one!

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    • HOGRIDER
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 5:05pm

      You don’t need your own drone… just open Google Earth and check out the creek’s runoff into the river. Copy and Paste the following location into Google Earth: 32°45′04.02″ N 96°47′17.01″ W

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    • SgtB
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 5:40pm

      If it weren‘t for the USDA’s ban on blood related products such as black pudding, there would be no waste or so little that dumping it would not matter. Also, I predict a major fish die off downstream of this meat packing plant within the month. The river that was being fertilized and fed by the blood will now lack the nutrients to sustain all the fish. However, right now would be a good time to fish!

      Lastly, who really cares if they dump blood into a stream? I could see getting upset over harsh or toxic chemicals, but blood? I use blood as a natural fertilizer for my plants and blood is 100% biodegradable, edible, and natural.

      Sorry, really last thing. When I was stationed at Camp Pendleton, I worked on the air station and they had the Officer/SNCO bathrooms redone. Turns out that the idiot plumbers plumbed the new sewage lines into the roof drains and into the creek that runs just east of the air station. It took a month or two, then we started smelling some pretty foul crap and turds and TP could be seen floating out of the storm drain. So I say if our own federal gov‘t can’t get their 5h!t straight, then they shouldn’t hold anyone else to account for their mistakes.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 7:04pm

      Drones….practice for dove and duck season!!!

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    • jzs
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 8:16pm

      Don’t bother worrying about blood going into our water supplies. Worry about the other EPA regulations that the Republicans would roll back: mercury, lead and other metals, pesticides, the things that cause cancer, birth defects, cause irreversible nerve damage including brain damage especially in unborn children. The right argue that companies will make more profits if they are allowed to release those carcinogens and mutagens into the environment, and they’re right, they will.

      You may believe that an increased rate of cancer, brain damage and birth defects are something you’d trade off for greater company profits for investors like Mitt Romney. But I’m on the other side.

      Don’t worry about the blood, it biodegrades quickly. It won’t hurt you. It’s the stuff the EPA regulates that shortens your lifespan.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 9:22pm

      @ JZS, I appreciate your comment on the other post about the Pope. However, I have to say that the EPA regulations do not keep anyone from dumping anything. The reality is that wastes that used to be dumped into landfills are now burned off so that we can breathe them in. I feel that if everyone had their property rights back (read allodial title to their land), then they could use the court system to punish corporations or individuals who dump waste on their property, or cause the air that they breathe to be full of chemicals, or pump byproducts of aluminum smelting into city water supplies (ever wonder where your fluoridated water comes from).

      The EPA hasn’t stopped any of this harmful polluting. In fact, by forcing cars to meet strict emission standards, they have forced them to be less efficient for decades now. I could go into detail, but suffice it to say that without the EPA and the NHTSA, we would have had cars with higher compression ratios, better displacement to power ratios, better power to weight ratios, and they would be lighter and more economical as well. If you want my opinion, the EPA has screwed us for decades and the major problems that you have mentioned could have been solved more readily and cost effectively through the civil court system.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on January 25, 2012 at 6:53am

      Do they still make blood sausage?

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    • sweetlaraine
      Posted on January 25, 2012 at 9:31am

      Why not sell the blood to a natural fertilizer company……..pumping into the water is a waste of money. If given a choice, blood is a natural product that will not poison animals , fish or humans and although it has a yuck factor it better than poison chemicals.

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    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on January 25, 2012 at 11:37am

      Sorry, but I’d prefer people not flying over my neighborhood photographing everything.

      I thought you people were Republicans.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on January 25, 2012 at 12:51pm

      This is a very good illustration of dysfunctional government. We all know that this “IS” illegal. There ARE state and federal agencies charged with ‘monitoring’ and reporting on the fitness of businesses in their ISO compliance as well as EPA and just plain ethical rule compliance. But no action from them.

      Inefficient government should be dismantled and disbanded. Severing all connections to those particular practices while new remedy is sought. Employees should be fired and management should be held accountable. Including prosecution, where necessary.

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    • Rowgue
      Posted on January 25, 2012 at 1:27pm

      There are only a couple of cultures in europe that actually made blood part of their diets at one time. Now even in those cultures it‘s more of a rare thing they only really have on special occasions when they’re trying to display their heritage to outsiders. Nobody really eats blood sausage or blood pudding or anything of that sort as a regular food anymore.

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on January 26, 2012 at 2:33pm

      BADDOGGY, you sure called that one. Probably wouldn’t build a mosque in fifty miles. Maybe we could start gathering pigs blood and kinda use it like kryptonite was used to stop Superman. Hume, let me think about that one. ” Get your pigs blood here, get your pigs blood here.” It would probably keep those creeps from CAIR away. Just a thought. Everything worthwhile begins with a thought somewhere.

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  • independentvoteril
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:34pm

    Nothing like big brother watching you while YOU watch him..maybe we can crack more information about just what secrets they are hiding from us..NO ONE is above the law not even Washington..

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:32pm

    so here’s hoping there is one of those terror-mosques downstream and they’ve been drinking the water and washing their feet in it.

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    • ENDOFSANITY
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:38pm

      What a harsh thing to say, I suggest you read Blowback. Yes I just told you to read a book.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:46pm

      I just thought the same thing. Should I think about reading a book, too?

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    • EchoHawk
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 4:01pm

      So Anonymous T. Irrelevant, you’re sharing a brain with BURNHILLS, that’s a step up for you.

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 4:09pm

      What an insensitive thing to say about a religion that wants to wipe out all other religions unless they convert. How dare you.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 4:27pm

      @Echohawk
      That MR. Anonymous T. Irrelevant to you.

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  • flipper1073
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:25pm

    I worked for a company that recycled animals an animal by products
    shipped rail cars full of bone meal an blood meal believe me slaughter houses
    don’t waste anything on purpose everything has value Hides Especially

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:25pm

    Something sounds fishy here. The Texas Environmental Crimes Task Force had been investigating the plant for two months and all of a sudden, this citizen happens to fly over the river and spot a red trail. How many of us would call the Coast Guard after seeing that? Want to bet the “citizen” is an animal’s right nut or a vegetarian?

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    • Berbel73
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 4:09pm

      My guess is that the person is a disgruntled ex-employee, or is an associate of one, who knew what was happening but couldn’t get onto the property to gather the evidence.

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    • ChiefH
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 10:39pm

      When you call the National Response Center number the Coast Guard is the Federal Agency that is tasked with answering.
      NATIONAL RESPONSE CENTER MISSION::

      The National Response Center (NRC) is the sole federal point of contact for reporting oil and chemical spills. If you have a spill to report, contact us via our toll-free number or check out our Web Site for additional information on reporting requirements and procedures. For those without 800 access, please contact us at 202.267.2675. The NRC operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.

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  • heavyduty
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:21pm

    The way I read the story the person wasn’t using the drone to particularly spy on anyone. He was just flying his drone around and he saw something. But even if he was spying with the drone unless he breaks laws like watching women in backyards or something I don’t see anything wrong with it. But then again I guess if you see one flying around your house then you are free to shoot it down if you can.

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    • THX-1138
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 4:16pm

      I‘m betting there’s a market for tiny little SAM’s soon. Maybe tiny little attack drones too.

      Capitalism rules. Guess I better get busy…

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  • WAKEUPUSA2012
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:20pm

    I live in Dallas I know all about this story. It is very gross. But we do not want drones flying all over our skies. Even if they are civilian.

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  • acovenantinblood
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:16pm

    I’m going to buy a drone and fly it over my neighbors house to make sure that they give their dog enough time to poop outside. If they don’t, I’ll report them to Cass Sunstien so that he can have the dog legally represented in a lawsuit against the owners.

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 4:05pm

      If you report them to Cass Sustien he would file a lawsuit for making the dog poop outside. Don’t you know that it is cruelty to not provide an indoor doggy bathroom. The poor dogs paws could get cold in the winter months.

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  • jcizarter
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:13pm

    @ zenzazin

    There is no clean water in the USA today. I distill the water that I drink. My friend works for OSHA. She told me back in the early 2000′s that there in not one water treatment plant that produces clean water. There are drugs that people have eliminated into the water supply. When you take drugs they are excreted by the kidneys. So anyone drinking anything but distilled water is getting someone’s drug regimen. Cialis, statin drugs, psychotrophics, antibiotics, estrogen, etc. Drink up.

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    • Zenzazin
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:30pm

      So your point is that anyone should be able to dump whatever waste they want into the water supply since people should know better and distill it?

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    • Zenzazin
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 8:39pm

      Shouldn’t clean, potable water be available to every citizen of the greatest country on Earth without having to pay for it (beyond what we already pay in utilities every month)? When there are people who can’t even afford to go to the doctor because they would then not be able to pay rent, is a water filter something they can afford? What if it means less groceries that month as a result? There are neighborhoods scattered throughout the US where the tap water is laced with nasty stuff, brown, or actually even flammable. This is the USA! I’ve been to 3rd world countries and experienced similar things there, but HERE?
      I realize there are plenty of fairly inexpensive options (which I do use), but there are people in this country where that isn’t necessarily an option. Stuff like this shouldn’t happen. We the tax payers end up footing the bill.
      And in answer to your question @Wedont…, I believe @JCI was referring to a post I wrote somewhere… I don’t know if it was taken down or not.

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  • Plan B
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:58pm

    Many people will read this article and think that spying with drones is a great idea, with out thinking what the implications could be. At this point 94% answering on the survey feel it is perfectly fine for people to use drones recreationally to spy on others-see something say something. I am once again surprised by Blaze Readers. It is ok to give up our privacy??

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    • OneTermPresident
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:14pm

      I second that emotion..

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    • junior1971
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:18pm

      But there is no “c” question which should read “Neither”.

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    • deeberj
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:37pm

      You have already given up your privacy in the air space over your house. Don‘t you think the gov’t can view your property anytime they want? Go to google earth and see your house.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:37pm

      If private citizens are outlawed from having drones then only the government will have them…and the government is not giving them up any time soon. If they have them, we should too.

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    • USAMama
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:52pm

      I agree there should be an option C. Neither. The only reason I picked the first option is because I didn’t like the option “only government and law enforcement” should be allowed to use them. I would rather nobody have them, but if the gov’t can then the public should be allowed also.

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    • walleye01
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 4:39pm

      Amen!!!!!! seems people do not understand the implications of these drones…can anyone fathom what would have happened if Hitler had such devises?

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    • ProPatriaVigilans
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 7:21pm

      People should be free to do as they please. Define a “DRONE”. is a remote control plane a “DRONE:?

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    • NickyLouse
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 10:28pm

      PROPAT: If someone starts peering into my window and I notice it, they soon get the message that it’s not okay.

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  • yiska8
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:54pm

    They’ve probably been doing this for a long while. Maybe at night so it wouldn’t be noticeable. Most in Texas are adament about trying to keep our land and water as clean as possible especially with endless droughts and it has nothing to do with being Republican or Democrat..But I know the treehuggers in Austin freshly planted here from San Fran where they had no employment will start rallies,protests, and Occupy something. More noise and nothing will be accomplished and the company will only remain staunchly silent on the issue or ignore it. As for the company, a disconnected pipe? C’mon! That’s the best they could come up with. Don’t mess with Texas. I hope they are heavily fined,watched, and placed on probation for some time to come. Shutting the plant down will cause people to lose their jobs.

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    • riverdog1
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:30pm

      so civilans can’t use drones (i agree) but plants can dump their waste anywhere they want. after all the goverment shouldn’t get involved with how a companies does its biz right.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:54pm

    .
    That’s Nasty. Time for another Joke…..

    Boudreaux went to Thibadeaux’s house but he was gone. Marie, his wife said he was out hunting & fishing. Boudreaux said he would come back later, Marie said to wait a minute she had something to show him. She brought out a big box full of animal penises about 500. Boudreaux “Cher what you going to did wit dat? Marie said ‘I don’t know. Boudreaux thought for a minute said give me the box and I’ll be back.

    Several weeks went by, Marie was home when Boudreaux came looking for Thibadeaux. Again he was not home, as he turned to leave Marie axed him “Boudreaux what you did wit dat box I gave you? Boudreaux said “Cher I almost forgot”. He reached into his pocket and pulled out a little pouch about the size of a deck of cards.

    BOUDREAUX! Dat box was full; dis is all I get a little tinny bag?

    Boudreaux said “Clam down Cher, You rub it just right, and it turns into a Suitcase…..

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  • daveposh
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:50pm

    My father’s RC model aircraft could be considered a drone. When I was a kid in the 1960s, Estes (a producer of cardboard/balsa-wood model rockets) offered a rocket that had a camera built into the nosecone.

    Regarding your Poll:

    Anybody that voted for “It’s good — civilians who want to use drone technology recreationally should be able to do so” is a patriot.

    Anybody that voted for “Drone-like technology should be reserved for government and law enforcement” should be entered into a contest for a fully paid one-way trip to their choice of Cuba, Venezuela, China, Russia or Iran.

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    • apbt55
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:59pm

      You can own whatever you want, but if yo start flying over private property and taking pictures don’t cry about you plane disappearing, civilian or government owned.

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:48pm

    Who needs the EPA when we have the Dallas man and his drone,well done Dallas man.

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:48pm

    any civilian drone over our property will make a great target. period.

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:59pm

      My property, my airspace.

      That said, anyone’s got the right. I can’t promise your UAV comes back in one piece, but it’s your right.

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    • Zenzazin
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:31pm

      @leftfighter – does this logic extend to muslim-americans who might want to use their property to build a community center?

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    • Greedz
      Posted on January 25, 2012 at 12:54am

      My Property – My Airspace?

      It’s actually not your airspace at all. Call the FAA for clarification or local governing body ouside the U.S on what you deem is your airspace. You’ll be up for a rude awakening. Point guns or take pot shots at anything in ‘your airspace’ and you’ll likely spend a considerable amount of time being someones toy boy in a jail cell. I’m forever glad that the country I reside in refrains from handing out guns to morons.

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  • kspatriot
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:35pm

    So, are citizen “spy planes” now legal. This has to call into question all sorts of privacy concerns and amounts to an illegal search in my opinion. I guess it would be legal to take pictures over the fence of your neighbor’s nude sun bathing then. A slippery slope here people.

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    • SoupSandwich
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:42pm

      It was visible from public “space”. Probably can’t record audio and use it, but video is acceptable from any “public” purview…

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    • Plan B
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:50pm

      Liz, I think you should have had a third answer to your survey. I am uncomfortable with civilians and government using drones against civilians. NYPD announced they are experamenting with using drones to monitor citizens.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:51pm

      If there‘s a no fly zone over the plant then the Dallas man might have a problem but I highly doubt there’s a no fly zone over that plant.

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    • MetalPatriot
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:01pm

      Yup, KC…i didn’t poll that one either.

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  • drago
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:34pm

    Yep, blood is a back thing to the enviroment, especially man made cows blood……A big to-do over nothing…….Now i’ll sit back and wait for the enviro-loons to tell me im wrong……

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    • Zenzazin
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:51pm

      why don’t you go drink a nice glass of blood-tainted water then?

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    • drago
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:06pm

      @zenzazin aka encinom.
      Just the response i expected from you.I guess blood, something the occurs naturally, is worse than, oh i dont know, say PAINT, f-n idiot……….

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    • Zenzazin
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:29pm

      <– not encinom.
      Then go ahead and drink a nice big glass of cow's blood. Just watched out for Mad Cow Disease.

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    • w3130
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:52pm

      Zenzazin, Dude that is the Trinity River, You must not be from around here. You don’t drink that water. I have lived in Dallas for 40 years and the only thing you can do with the Trinity is smell it (for miles around). Cows blood is probably the least toxic thing that has been dumped there. Google “Bodies found in the Trinity River”

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 4:58pm

      Zenzazin

      If you are that stupid then have at it.

      If your worried about Mad Cow Disease then don’t go pi$$ing off the Cows.

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  • daveposh
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:32pm

    sUAS???? “Small Unmanned Aviation System”. Like hobbyist RC-aircraft? God bless the non-governmental, non-news-media citizens!

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  • bikerr
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:29pm

    Let‘s hope this isn’t a reason for the Feds to use drones(to gather info) against private citizens. They some times can’t be trusted. Well ok never?

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:28pm

    It wasn’t the plant. It was God telling Obama “Let My People Go!”

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  • cessna152
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:27pm

    Title is misleading. Citizen doing the right thing…. Knowing this administration, I guess he should be tried and put in jail.

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  • sWampy
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:27pm

    Oh my god, blood in the river, crap, that might feed wildlife, better not do that, wildlife eating might increase production of green house gas.

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  • encinom
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:23pm

    But lets get rid of the Clean Water act and pollution laws, cause corporations and the market will always do what is right.

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    • Boss J
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:31pm

      You’re right. lets make them all even more strict. How bout No one can EVER go near any body of water that isn’t inside a building. Then we can be sure that some friggin toad or fry smelt will live a long and happy life.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:31pm

      Dope…nobody is saying get rid of it…it’s the tyrannical power they wield which is the main concern.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:33pm

      The “Clean Water act” and all your government heroes didn’t find this, an individual did.

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:39pm

      That’s a rational argument. I‘ve sure you’ve heard that from people here. Clearly, defunding the EPA is the same thing as dumping pollution into the world.

      Americans want clean water and air. We don’t want unelected bureaucrats dictating how we accomplish it. We don’t want Presidential appointees to have the power to shut down companies and sieze property without due process.

      We don’t think we should have to explain each of those details, because we think they’re common sense. Oh…I’m talking to Encinom. Never mind.

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    • peachstealth
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:41pm

      I doubt they were purposely throwing blood away. It’s usually dried and sold to organic gardeners as fertilizer.
      Google Blood meal. It retails for over $1 a pound

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    • dblaess
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:53pm

      How about we limit this Department so they enforce “law” that are there and not take on themselves to make “law” as they go, especially based on a bias that only looks at one side of an argument.

      George is this you yet again?

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    • JRook
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:56pm

      @Jaycen Your assertion that Americans want clean air and water is correct. You inference that somehow companies will willingly comply or do the right thing is clearly not supported by history. You wouldn’t have needed to be a scientist to know that dumping chemicals into the water and air would be a problem. But it was done, and the Cuyahoga River did catch on fire and there were thousands of super fund sites and 10,000 of examples where companies knowingly or stupidly (unknowingly) prevented us from having clean water and air because they were greedy. Your right though it should be a very simple and easy regulation. If your company uses water it must be returned cleaner than the water you started with. The effluent from your stacks should be cleaner than the surrounding air. Both of which can be accomplished by honorable companies run by good citizens. When this is not done the regulations can be replaced by civil suits brought by the local community with awards that make it better business to invest in clean air and water.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:58pm

      ENCINOM Why must you infect the gene pool? We need reasonable regulations not what we have now
      a bunch of candyass bureaucrats that know nothing.

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    • flipper1073
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:07pm

      If the EPA was doing their job they would have caught this
      but they’re too busy sitting in their offices making new Regulations.
      to stiffel new bussinesses

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    • JRook
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:19pm

      @progressiveslayer And of course we don’t get reasonable regulations because similar to the FDA and the Agriculture Dept the EPA has a revolving door with the large corporations and much of the regulations are put in place to limit competition. You can focus on the parlor game that is provided to occupy the citizenry or you can follow the lobbyists and follow the money.

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    • drago
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:19pm

      So enciloon, what kind impact on the enviroment will there be from this? Or anyone esle for that fact, anyone got an answer, Bueller, Bueller?

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    • JRook
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:21pm

      @progressiveslayer Your right though they can be simple and reasonable. Replace water back cleaner than the water you are using. Make the effluent coming from you stacks as clean as the ambient air. Technology exists to do both. The rest of it is just BS to draw the focus from these 2 simple ones.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:30pm

      @JROOK In a perfect world we could have reasonable regulations but our government is so corrupt that won’t happen.Most of our bureaucracies are unconstitutional and should be abolished,we both know that’ll never happen so we have to make the best of a bad situation.If a property owner is harmed by someone the courts would be the place to deal with it.

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    • Zenzazin
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:35pm

      can we rely on an individual to clean this mess up then? How many people’s drinking water will be tainted, not to mention the soil in surrounding areas increasing in nitrates, etc, which are not good things for the environment? we have regulations and the EPA in an attempt to discourage people from selfishly doing what they want at the cost of others in their community, and in instances where they don’t adhere, there are legal paths for consequences.

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    • TEIN
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 5:16pm

      @Encinmon..whoever said that??? Whoever said do away with corps being responsible if they are dumping items to affect air and water??? The question and concern is at what level of government do you want to give that task too….if you enjoy having the Fed Government distributing regulations that might work for Florida, but make no sense and has no place in Montana, then crawl back to you Libby/Progressive shell and whine to yourself and other Libby/Progressive that life is unfair…The rest of us would like these thing handle at a government level that is more closer to home…less red tape, cheaper, and things actually get done instead of stonewalled….

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  • bikerr
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:22pm

    OOOps. Sounds like any employee who did this has been thrown under the bus already. The company seems to have been caught “RED” handed so to speak!

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  • USPATRIOT101
    Posted on January 24, 2012 at 2:21pm

    there is no possible way that they didnt know this was going on. impossible.

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    • drago
      Posted on January 24, 2012 at 3:10pm

      @uspatriot101 aka encinom.
      You may want to investigate a bit more before you make a statement like that.For one, blood from a kill floor, can be sold, therefore it is a commodity.That plant just lost a bit of cash.No kill plant in the US would be foolish enough to throw away a saleable item like that, IDIOT!

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