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Clinton: U.S. Won’t Oppose Egyptian Talks With Muslim Brotherhood
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MUNICH (AP) — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton says the Obama administration will withhold judgment on the decision by Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood to engage in dialogue with the embattled government of President Hosni Mubarak.
In an interview airing Sunday on National Public Radio, Clinton was noncommittal about the fundamentalist group‘s role in talks to try to end Egypt’s political crisis, but she said the decision suggests “at least they are now involved.”
Clinton says the U.S. has been very clear about what it expects in the transition process to a new government in Egypt.
The United States, she says, along with the people of Egypt want so see an orderly transition that leads to free and fair elections.
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Comments (209)
B-Neil
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:58amClinton is an Employee.. She does and thinks what the President wants. Her matter doesn’t count….Carry on McDuff
Report Post »chfields62
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 12:10pmWhat makes you think Clinton or Obama can actually think??? They are there to follow orders, not to think, Soro’s does all their thinking for them.
Report Post »beckwill
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:55amI look for Obama, when he ends his next speech, to raise his hands and say, “O mighty Allah, I pray to you to hasten the return of the chosen one”. And when he does will anyone really be surprised? This man is NOT MY president.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:47amNor mine -never has been and never will be.
Report Post »butler180
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 12:30pmBut he is the President of out enemies. Need proof – see the bowing to every Arab leader he met – insulted England – wants to destroy Israel – etc etc
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:53amI posted this at the very end of the Palin 3 am call thread:
It might well be that everybody has pleen played. The Egypt deal may well be a State Department geopolitical engineering project started back in the Bush administration. Things are just a little too under control to be a good old fashioned revolution. This is the best take I have found on it.
http://www.sify.com/news/egypt-don-t-expect-an-arab-revolution-news-columns-lceqtTjbgdb.html?scategory=columns
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 2:57pm“Things are just a little too under control to be a good old fashioned revolution.”
What stupidity is this? Things are not under control–protesters are being attacked and killed. So, you assume there is a conspiracy if the protestors are non-violent. If the protestors were violent, then you would just say that they are typical violent Muslims off on a jihaad. Obviously, Muslims can’t just want to improve their quality of life, or live in a free country. No. Must be a conspiracy.
Report Post »AZpatriotmama
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 5:11pmXcori8r:
I hope R S N Singh, the author of the article in your post, is right…I fear he’s not. Either way, the result will NOT be freedom.
Report Post »AZpatriotmama
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 7:34pm@PubliusPencilman
I have one word for you: RESEARCH
Xcori8r just may be on to something. Information is just a computer click away.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:30pmAZ,
Report Post »I responded to Xcori’s article above, so I won’t repeat myself. I‘ll just say that you’ve clearly taken the position that no matter what I argue, if you don’t agree with it, you’ll just insist that I am uninformed and that I need to research more. Of course, we all need to research, you simply refuse to offer proof for anything you say. So what is there to do against such obstinance? Is this the kind of healthy public debate you want for the Republic?
Helldogger
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:53amYou might wanna cancel that trip to see the pyrimids & the holy lands until we quit letting college kids & welfare recipients elect our government.
DashRipRock
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:05amWhy dont we just give
College students and welfare recipients
free tickets to see the pyramids
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:12amAstute observation, but don’t forget about the illegal aliens and the dead in Chicago.
Report Post »burr99
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:53amPresident Obomanation strikes again! Here comes the beginning of the the Caliphate.
Report Post »Silat
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:50amStupid skank!
Report Post »egosumverum
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:50amI wonder how they would feel about The Tea Party participating in the talks. Oh wait, that is the movement Herr Obama wishes to crush and ban here. Obama is a dirty, lying, communist meat puppet for a bunch of dried up, old, dirty, lying, one-world-order, hippie freaks from the sixties and the useful idiots they have created through our “it takes a village” government education. That’s right – Hillary is a dirtbag hippie freak too. The hippie freaks are going to die out soon, but we must stop the agenda now. The useful idiots are going to take years to weed out and “re-educate” about freedom.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:29pmAnd yet Tea party-ers complain that their group is the victim of bad press, and that the Tea Party does not condone hate.
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 3:56pm@Publius
Report Post »I claim allegiance to no Party. I take exception with your various arguments on this thread because an eloquently expressed lie is, in fact, still a lie. Your arguments offer just enough of truth around the edges to appear to be real, but they are lacking as I believe you well know.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 5:13pmAnd what exactly is a lie? Please, enlighten me.
Report Post »suzpenn
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:50amSarah Palin’s statements certainly receive a lot of media attention, but our Secretary of State has no comments about Soros’s recent anti semitic rumblings of how Israel is the obstacle to peace in the Middle East. Well, when old ‘Uncle George’ provides the place for your daughter’s lavish wedding how could you criticize him. In fact your friendship with Soros goes way back. He’s referred to you as his soul mate. How nice. Soros’s sock puppet is in the White House and his soul mate is Secretary of State. Just where were the President’s, Hillary‘s and Soros’s voices when Neda lay dying her blood staining the ground? Where were those ‘calls’ of our leaders then saying we stand with the people, we stand for their rights of free and fair elections. I’ll never forget that one old Iraqi women, having cast her vote and with her purple finger raised high for the world to see, said “Thank you Bush, anyone who says different can go to Hell“ and ”God Bless Bush”.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:36pmI think you are a bit confused–
Report Post »Obama has reversed decades of U.S. policy by supporting the protestors for democracy against Mubarak. Palin, on the other hand, has not come out to support the protestors, and instead sidesteps the issue by accusing Obama of not sharing enough information.
ClockKing
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 2:47pmBecause we DON”T know enough about the protest, who the protesters are, etc. 30 years, and NOW people protest? Why not 10 years ago, or 15 years ago? Why now? What changed? Food prices for one. So people only push for democracy when food is hard to buy? Doesn’t make sense.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 2:53pmClokking,
Report Post »You can ask “why now” at any time. Why not now? There are a number of suggested answers out there, from economic factors, to technological factors (social media and its ability to organize). There are answers out there is you dare to look at what people are saying outside of the Blaze. Many journalists have been to Egypt and have interviewed protestors. You know that asking for more information is pointless, because most Blazers are just going to ignore it if they don’t agree with it.
CountMeIn
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:47amI keep thinking that this will be the template for revolt in this country when conservatives finally regain power. The protests by progressive thugs will be lionized by the mainstream media as they rush to overthrow the elected government. Then those who oppose the demonstrators will be mocked and demonized. End result – more radicals in power.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:24pmWow. It’s hard to quantify how stupid that comment is.
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:47amThere is an interesting side effect that will occur if the muslim brotherhood actually takes over in Egypt. They will suddenly have a geographic location, one that was taken by revolution. It will become a magnet for all of the groups that have been operating in the world as entities within other countries. Islam will become less of an idea and more of a country and easier to combat in conventional warfare. They will suddenly have something to lose.
Just a thought
Silversmith
Report Post »338lapua
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:12amLike Iran.
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:46amWe should get out of the process and stay out of the process. Let Egypt decide for themselves what they want. Stop all foreign aid and let’s start getting things cleaned up here at home. In a month or so all of DC will be screaming about the “debt ceiling crisis” which we all know about right now. Spending needs to be cut drastically, now, or they will insist that the debt ceiling must be raised in a month of so. But we are being led to ignore our fiscal crisis by this kind of news coverage. Don’t take their bait.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:45amThat’s good, since it’s none of our damned business to oppose who they talk with.
Report Post »greggor
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:45amOf course it will. The ONLY thing that this corrupt administration ever holds judgment on is anything muslim.
Report Post »When the wars begin.. which will be bigger and more deadly? The one against the muslims, or the one against our socialist, communist government?
psst
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:45amhilLIEry is babbling her usual whachamacallit.
Report Post »US won’t oppose Egyptian talks w/ the radical Moslem brother-HOOD?
UM! note to kilLIE, Why makes you think you can oppose talks w/ the soon to be new rulers of Egypt?
And, You should not ASS-ume your boss would give you permission to oppose his peoples
BreeZee
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:43am“Clinton says the U.S. has been very clear about what it expects in the transition process to a new government in Egypt”
Like these people care WTF Hilliary, obomba.and the USA EXPECTS. This administration has proven time after time what IDIOTS they are when it comes to dealing with the enemy. When is this Prez going to remove the rose colored glasses and see these people for who and what they are. By not opposing, you are supporting, PERIOD. People need to wake up to the fact ol‘ Barry hasn’t a clue about anything!
Report Post »Smart
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:41amIf Obama was born in the United States, why are they so concerned with potential requirements across the Uninted States to become US President?
“Jarrett expressed concern over possible newly passed eligibility requirements in states. If only one or two states clarify eligibility in order to run for office, White House will simply use those states as examples of “anti-Obama racism”. They would likely not win the electorals in those states regardless, but could use the scenario to gain sympathy and support over the challenge from other moderate states. This is the tactic Jarrett and crew have prepared. She is worried though that if more than one or two states challenge the president’s eligibility, the issue would turn against them. Measures are being taken to make certain that does not happen. What those measures are, I don’t know at this point. Oh, and while discussion over eligibility was underway, Obama sat motionless. He said nothing.”
Read the article:
http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-obama-is-clueless-totally-clueless/
Report Post »hulagu
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 12:59pmSmart, You know the answer.
Report Post »norbit
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:39amCNN & MSNBC are treating it as a “breakthrough” that the Muslim Brotherhood has said nice things about democracy.
In other words, they are RUNNING COVER for the Muslim Brotherhood to get a foothold in Egyptian government.
Remember that Obama LIED about whatever he had to, then attmpted the TAKEOVER COUP!
Report Post »tinydd
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:39amIt’s just about time for Israel to speak up and to remind Egypt about who kicked their azz in 1967. Israel is a force not to be screwed with in the Middle East.
Report Post »butler180
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 12:43pmAs a follower of the Jew, JESUS CHRIST the Son of GOD, I pray everyday for Israel.
Report Post »palladin58
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:38amThey should invite muslim brotherhood member (al-qaida’s number 2) Ayman al-Zawahiri to the meeting.I am sure he would bring all the decision making tools to the meeting. Bombs, Guns, hand held missiles……
Report Post »mill
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:36amWe can look for a state dinner for the “muslim brother hood” any time now. Fan fare, burkas for everyone!!
Obama, Hillary all need to be out of office before they completely destroy our country
Report Post »WHITE LOTUS2x
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 3:06pmEvery time I see hilly in the picture I just know that some how she is going to make all the boo boos go away and everthing will be gooood again.
Report Post »JROCCOD
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:36amCan anyone say Iran, 1979????? This is the weakest president of my lifetime. Even Jimmy Carter was stronger than him. This is an embassassment.
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:08amAlthough the background in Iran and what is happeneing in Egypt are fundementaly the same.
what made Carter look weak was when the students in Iran took hostages.
And what made Carter look even weaker is the hostages were released when Reagan was sworn in.
Report Post »opNorthwoods
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:36amMuslim Brotherhood is infiltrated by british intelligence and CIA , need some conflict to profit from war ..you guys. watch the other hand.
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:03amDont you mean watch the other hoof.
Most people who use catch phrases
Report Post »are dyed in the wool sheeple.
opNorthwoods
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:27amis own beck’s words , this a beck site , what are you doing here sheep’y? :)
DashRipRock
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:39amI know this is a Beck site
I found out about it listening to Beck’s radio show
a show I have listened to since 2002
Back then it was only Beck
and I have listened to Beck enough to know
that he wants people to think for themselves
A sentiment that seems to be lost on YOU
Report Post »DashRipRock
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:42amI might also add
that I have listend to Pat Gray’s show since
before Pat joined Beck
and even before Beck went national
I have been a big Pat Gray fan as long
Report Post »as he has had a show.
gopsnativeson
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:33amYes, free & fair elections, where the Muslum Brotherhood can get a foothold in Egyptian politics, even though they have been banned in Egypt for the last 56 years.
Now, if the Egyptian government has banned the Brotherhood for 56 years, how does it make any sense for us to open the door for them.
This wont turn out good for the US & our long term ally.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:15pmI think you missed the logical point there–
Report Post »If the MB has been banned and shut out of what passes for Egyptian politics for 56 years, what makes you think that they will go away if shut out of the transition and future democratic government? What makes you think that the position of victimized opposition won’t just make the MB stronger, as it has for the past half-century?
suzpenn
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:31amHaven‘t heard the Secretary of State comment on Soros’ recent statements that Israel is the obstacle to peace in the Middle East. Think you could keep your ‘Uncle George’ on a short leash, Hillary? Then when he helps throw such a lavish wedding for your daughter how could you say anything bad about old ‘Uncle George’!
norbit
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:29amThey’re PARTYING at the White House Today!
Don’t TRUST these people at all. This guy in the White House LIES about Everything!!!
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:28am.
Report Post »Well of course not. When Hill puts on a Burqua to negotiate they think she’s HOT!
So
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:35amThe Obama Administration won’t oppose a terrorist take over. Who’s surprised.
Report Post »parmajohn
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:38amBurqua’s were made for women like Hillary Michelle-my Belle and nancy P
Report Post »nptden
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:43amWhat about the ‘free and fair elections’ in China, Russia, Iran?..must they do that NOW also?..DUH..
Report Post »Oh I forgot they are the NWO people… Love the way Hillary supports all the ‘hate speech’ from Iran against Israel…..Guess these demands only apply to countries that are targeted by the dream team for ‘total transformation’?
GeauxAlready
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:46am.
Report Post »I fully expect to see Ali the ************ from the Cario Riots, at the White House to preform his Ritual Camel Charge and Head Whoooooping, and a mock Stoning demonstration on the South Lawn at Halftime.
79USMC83
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:46amThe “Speech Giver” KNEW all along about Egypt and this is exactly what he wants to happen in the Middle East !!! Why did he give that I APOLOGIZE for America Sermon in Cairo in the first place ????
Social Justice and Sharia Law are he same thing in the eyes of a ONE PARTY rule society !!!! It is funny that when a Presidential campaign is on the Horizon that things get changed by EVENTS !! Health-Care,Economy and unemployment are now are being replaced by Foreign Policy problems!!!
Who do you think the MUSLIM countries want to see as OUR next President, Barry Hussein Obama or a CONSERVATIVE !!!!
Global Economy,Global Warming,Global Justice and Global SHARIA Law is what the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD stand for also !!!
Look at their English website and notice the sickle and hammer communist ad !!
http://www.ikhwanweb.com/articles.php?pid=92
TERM LIMITS NOW !!
FAIR TAX NOW !!
CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS UNITE !!
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:48amMUST READ: White House Insider: Obama is Clueless. Totally Clueless
Report Post »http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-obama-is-clueless-totally-clueless/
WAR PIGS CRAWLING
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:58am- “U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton says the Obama administration will withhold judgment on the decision by Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood to engage in dialogue with the embattled government of President Hosni Mubarak.” -
The Obama administration has a track record of waiting to see what happens and then spinning that that is what their position was all along.
Xcori8r
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:01amIt does look like they knew all along, in fact we might well have kicked it off. The military head, Enan, has support in the Muslim Brotherhood, and he just happened to be in the US when all the fun in Egypt started. It might not be all that bad in the long run if (a big if) the US played its cards right. This kind of high stakes poker is right up Hillary’s alley. See my post below.
walkwithme1966
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:07am@SO – Muslim Brotherhood are not terrorists – get your facts straight – stop listening to Beck
http://wp.me/pYLB7-Am
Cobra Blue
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:07amOf course the US want opppose talks between Egypt and the Mooslem Brohood (MB). Obama and the MB are birds of a feather i.e. Mooslem…Same reason he has been supporting the protestors. They all hang together. This up rising is by design and Obama is the front man for Soros making sure everything is handled correctly from the US point of view….which is a liberal progressive point of view. Same with Hillary. She was a pupil of Saul Alinsky in college. She has worked tirelessly her whole life for events like this…..The main stream media will dutifully praise Obama and Hillary’s handling of this event. Why! Again..it has Mooslem written all over it.
Report Post »DSN397
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:10amSo do I. I don’t have to look at her except thru that little slit. I expect Hillary doesn’t want to offend any of them over there by wearing make up, but man she looks like nine miles of bad road.
Report Post »Sheepdog911
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:21amSo, once a radical islamic group is in charge of Egypt, how much more money will we pump in there? Guaranteed it will will increase.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:23amWell I know my wife will never wear a Burqua…It would make it to hard to get to her glock…
Report Post »fertlmind
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:30amObamma is a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Report Post »Hillary doesn’t want to be STONED for speaking out against them.
Palin has more balls than both of them.
Also,…
Israel should blast Iran NOW. Decapitate them with a massive, conventional, cruise missle attack,….
They can’t wait until Egypt falls under control of the Muslim Brotherhood
They should wreck Irans nuclear infrastructure,and other strategic targets like airfields, communications, and power generation facillities.
One quickm massive, attack,…and then stop. Then threaten to respond to anyone who retalliates with nukes. Call their bluff.
Before it’s too late.
Or soon there will be no Israel…
Because Obamma wants them dead and has 2 more years to make it happen.
He will destroy ALL our friends
He hates America
Because he is a Muslim
Cemoto78
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:33amHillary is about as far over her head being the secretary of state as Obama is as being president. These clowns are all flying by the seat of their pants and really think they now whats best for other countries. Why don’t we let Egypt and these other countries figure it out for themselves and concentrate on our OWN country.
Report Post »It’s time the United States gives up the position of the worlds policeman and let someone else take that over at their peril and economical demise. Time for America to get out of the United Nations as this is the most corrupt organization known to man. Lets pull all our troops back from overseas and use them to secure our borders, etc.
It’s no wonder all these countries look at us as being so arrogant, the first thing you ever hear on news reports is some government lackey saying how we don’t want this group or another to be in charge of their own country. If these people want freedom and democracy they will figure it out. Once the smoke clears we can see if they are a viable government to deal with.
I’m a little upset that my hard earned tax money is being used to prop up dictators around the globe.
AzDebi
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:36amALERT ALERT ALERT: Get this….
Jano says “Everyone entering the Super Bowl To Get a Pat Down” drudgereport.com
As part of the increased security surrounding the Super Bowl, NFL and federal authorities are limiting what fans can bring to Cowboys Stadium.
Everyone entering the stadium must pass through a magnatometer, such as those used at airports, and get a patdown as part of the screening process. The majority of fans will enter through checkpoints on the east side of Cowboys Stadium.
Small bags are allowed, but will be searched, and jackets will be X-rayed.
Not allowed
Items fans can’t bring into Cowboys Stadium:
Weapons, mace/pepper spray, fireworks
Camcorders, tripods, camera cases and binocular cases
Umbrellas, strollers
Grills, tents, poles, sticks
Banners, noisemakers, horns, beach balls, Frisbees, laser lights and pointers
Containers of any type, coolers of any size, backpacks
Bottles, cans, hairspray
Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/02/04/2824781/routine-items-not-allowed-at-cowboys.html#ixzz1DBntoKoK
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:41am“Saboteurs attack Egypt gas pipeline to Jordan”…OMG
Report Post »drudgereport.com
hifi74
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:45amWalkwithme, are you high? They aren’t a terrorist organization? Woman you need to re-screw your head on. You need to take stock of reality again, not a terrorist organization!!!! They are the group from which Hamas comes from, oooooh right liberal nut-jobs like you think they are a force for good!! OK you like them so much you can go there and get the hell out of my Country, cause I’ll be damned if I am going to let kooks like you ruin MY country for MY kids.
Report Post »SnapTie
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:50amhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2664849/posts With a little help from my friends.
Report Post »G.W. Dobbs
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:54am“Won’t oppose”? HA! Obama is ENCOURAGING having the Brotherhood to join any talks. Obama will SEE to it that Shiara Law is in effect in Egypt IF HE CAN, that his Muslim Brothers dictate and that America PAYS them but is intentionally debased, all the while bowing and scraping and apologizing for being free and capitalistic. But Obama PROMISES “CHANGE”. Only we NOW know, what kind of change he wants.
Report Post »Promotefreedom
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:56amI think that Barry is taking orders from the NWO elites. Their agenda is to form four Socialist blocks:
1. North American (US, Canada, Mexico, adding South America after Chavez is eliminated)
2. European
3. Asian
4. Middle East
4b. P u t i n’s regime fits in there somewhere. I don’t recall.
Then these are to be joined under a socialist world governance.
So, Barry is just following orders to help the Muslim Brotherhood get going on their Middle East Caliphate.
Does anyone else think WWIII will quickly erupt if this Caliphate is formed?
READ THIS detailed report by experts for the US government about Sharia The Threat To America:
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/upload/wysiwyg/article%20pdfs/Shariah%20-%20The%20Threat%20to%20America%20(Team%20B%20Report)%2009142010.pdf
Report Post »jacobstroubles
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:00amWell….sure they’ll be happy to lay down some snizzle in deir jihad crib, and rap it up with da moozlim bro-hood. Maybe shoot sum hoops wit da pres? Just saying
Why would anybody think any differently?
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:08am@Stuck_in_CA:
Priceless…absolutely Priceless! What’s even scarier is if we “knew” even half of what’s really going on up there, we’d all require some kind of sedation! I keep sayin’ that EVERYONE in the WH and Congress should be subject to random drug testing…I’m so not kidding!
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:42amOh, I see Hillary is back. I guess she is back from her trip to Yemen shining the shoes of Muslims. Well Hillary back to work, them Muslim brotherhood animals needs their shoes shined too and in good Bama fashion you better polish them with the American flag.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:56amHillary, you are one dog ugly broad … you’ll be even uglier when you are forced to wear a burqua!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 11:47amAll right. Perhaps we should have a real conversation about common sense and diplomacy, since none of you seem to have learned the lessons of the last half-century. The fact is that with all his apocalyptic conspiracy theories, Beck has nothing to say about what the US should do in Egypt. Now, let’s examine the possibilities for the U.S.
1) The U.S. supports Mubarak, he stays in office. By doing so, the U.S. angers the average secular Egyptians, and further radicalizes the Muslim Brotherhood, who the have proof that the entire West is against them. Egyptians flock to the MB as the only credible opposition to Mubarak. In a few years Mubarak either makes good on his promise for elections, he dies, or another uprising topples him. As the only still credible opposition group, the MB gains power and takes revenge on the U.S. for its refusal to back the Egyptian people by closing the Suez Canal.
2) The U.S. does nothing. Whether Mubarak is toppled this time or not, the outcome is more or less the same as above. The Egyptian people feel betrayed, and the MB’s stock rises.
3) The U.S. aids the transition but refuses to deal with the MB. Shut out of the political process, the MB has absolutely no reason to moderate its rhetoric and has a valid case for being victimized and silenced by western “imperial” powers. Again, the MB’s stock rises, and it is then in a position to overthrow whatever democratic government is set up once the U.S. turns its attention elsewhere.
4) The U.S. aids in the transition, talks with the MB and makes sure it is represented. There can be any number of outcomes here, but regardless of what happens, the U.S. has taken away the MB’s greatest weapons: its claim to be the victimized and oppressed opposition. By aiding in the transition, the U.S. gains leverage and goodwill with the new government and the people of Egypt. As many analysist have suggested, if the MB does gain power in democratic elections, the possibility is strong that the imperative to govern with moderate it as a party. You may say, what about Hamas? The fact is, Hamas has benefited hugely from being the vicitm of the seige on Gaza, and the political forces within the Palestinian territories have been radicalized for decades. There is no comparable situation in Egypt.
So there you go. This is a commonsense assessment. You are all free to disagree if you like.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 12:09pm“The United States, she says, along with the people of Egypt want so see an orderly transition that leads to free and fair elections.”
The Muslim Brotherhood are terrorists. Don’t negotiate with them. They are against freedom and fair elections.
Report Post »oriondma05
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 12:53pmWoah woah woah.. What’s this burqua talk? Hillary is very handsome.
Report Post »DonaldH
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:22pmof course the Obama Admin won’t oppose the take over by “The Muslim Brotherhood’,, but i can’t believe people like hillary is selling us out,, knowing full well which ones of us are going to be slaughtered in the NWO….. The time is almost past for us to act to preserve ourselves…
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:26pmImagine that, the terrorist in chief and the terrorist liberals and progressives supportting terrorists. The time has come to kick these anti-american pieces of crap out for treason and conspiracy to commit terrorism by way of supporting terrorist groups.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:28pmAre we supposed to be surprised by this? … do you not think that Obama administration had some hand in all this to begin with? .. Weaken America and watch the world go to h e l l .
Report Post »AZpatriotmama
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:37pmStuck_in_CA:
Thanks for the link! Funny, in a scary sort of way!
Question is, why would the administration have to call a special strategy meeting about countering the new ‘eligibility requirements law’ in a few states (including mine) meant to go into effect by 2012? Think that says anything about our prez’s eligibility? Their comment/relief that it may only be in effect in states that Obama lost in 2008 isn’t telling is it? Gee, what are they afraid of?
I love the fact that they are considering using the ‘racist’ tactic. Here in Arizona we’ve already been painted as racist for our immigration law, even though most of the LEGAL immigrants agree with the law! Haven’t they got anything new in their box of cheap tricks? How about calling us ‘birthers’ …oh, yeah, that didn’t work, the movement’s just getting stronger. Ummm…how about ‘patriots’?
Report Post »theCREATORisGOD
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 1:52pmDid the WH get the memo that the brotherhood called for Egyptians to be prepared for a war with Israel? Unbelievable.
Hope they are all having a good time at their super bowl party today that us tax payers are paying for!!!
Report Post »Highland
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 2:42pmHillary likes to cozy up to terrorists now and again.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 5:12pmNo? No one wants to actually discuss this issue rationally? I am curious how you folks think things should be handled, since everyone is quite quick to attack.
Report Post »Lucy Larue
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 5:38pmGeauxalready,
Amen! A burqa is very slimming to the hips and thighs.
But does not the photo of Hillary(enemy fire in Bosnia) say it all? She looks like the proverbial deer in the headlights! She is the poster child for the ineptness of this entire Administration!
And where is “JIMMAH” Obama in all of this? Did he cancel his Super Bowl party? Don’t know.
Please God be with the brave Egyptian People. They do not deserve a repeat of Iran 30 years ago.
It terrifys me that the United States of America has to rely on “JIMMAH” Obama and his substandard minions to respond to what is happening. How can our current administration stand for freedom and democracy in Egypt when they are doing everything they can to stamp out out freedom and democracy in the United States of America?!
Report Post »AZpatriotmama
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 6:45pm@PubliusPencilman
You forgot this one:
5) The US keeps it mouth shut publicly and works behind the scenes. It trains future leaders (a shadow government) who will govern the troubled country from behind the curtain. Then it creates the ‘perfect storm’ (inflation of food and energy prices, for instance) to bring the people to a boiling point. The next step would be to organize protests. When the peaceful protests are large enough, it sends in a group of thugs to rile things up (chaos). The violence and chaos escalates, putting pressure on (nudges) the current government to step down. The confusion, uncertainty and desire for order and the basic necessities of life (food and safety!) create a void for the new pre-trained shadow government to step in. It manipulates the ‘elections’ to place a popular front man in as the ‘leader’, but he answers directly to the shadow government.
The template is a common one – the result, however, is determined by the desire of the people who trained and placed the shadow government in power. In the US, that desire reflects the administration in power at the time. Was the desire to stabilize an unstable portion of the world? To give freedom to an oppressed country? To oppress a free country? Or to ‘change the world’?
It could result in a favorable change, or a disastrous one.
…just food for thought
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 7:45pmAZPatriot,
Sorry, I didn’t forget that one. It just doesn’t pass the plausability test. The U.S. trained a shadow government? For Egypt? And then engineered a global food and energy crisis in order to anger average Egyptians into rioting? Now think about that for a second… just ponder it. The U.S. controls both the anti-Mubarak and pro-Mubarak protestors in order to get them to fight each other? And all in the interests of stability? Really? And the U.S. will create this huge conspiracy and just expect no one to notice a shadow government?
This is not a “common” template. I have no idea where you get that idea. Frankly, it’s complete idiocy–but I suppose that if you refuse to believe that people in the Arab world want freedom just like everyone else, you have to make up crazy bullpoop like this. But please–if you have any particular proof to back this up, I would love to hear it.
Report Post »exdem
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:22pmAt least the Egyptians will know they are voting for a Muslim BEFORE their elections.
Report Post »AZpatriotmama
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:38pmPubliusPencilman;
Wow. I’m sorry. I mistook you for an educated person. The template has been used, in one form or another, throughout history.
I’ll break down your questions:
“The U.S. trained a shadow government?” Yes. They have in the past and continue to do so.
“For Egypt?” It certainly fits the pattern.
“And then engineered a global food and energy crisis in order to anger average Egyptians into rioting?” Manipulation of the GLOBAL economy, not just Egypt. And it wasn’t necessarily the US.
“The U.S. controls both the anti-Mubarak and pro-Mubarak protestors in order to get them to fight each other?” Yes. That’s the easy part. Peaceful protests are organize through the internet. When the crowds are at their peak, the thugs are sent in to stir up the violence. If the police and/or military stand down (sound familiar) the violence and chaos escalate.
“And all in the interests of stability?” That was only one of the options I mentioned. I believe the others were: To give freedom to an oppressed country; To oppress a free country; or to ‘change the world’.
“And the U.S. will create this huge conspiracy and just expect no one to notice a shadow government?” Wow. I‘m going to pretend you didn’t ask that.
As for the proof, if you would spend as much time researching as you do denigrating people on this website, you wouldn’t have asked me those silly questions.
By the way, do you see your hypocrisy in your post? Let me quote you:
“No? No one wants to actually discuss this issue rationally? I am curious how you folks think things should be handled, since everyone is quite quick to attack”.
Now let me quote your comment to my post:
“This is not a “common” template. I have no idea where you get that idea. Frankly, it’s complete idiocy–but I suppose that if you refuse to believe that people in the Arab world want freedom just like everyone else, you have to make up crazy bullpoop like this. But please–if you have any particular proof to back this up, I would love to hear it.”
And here’s how you begin your reply to Xcori8r:
“What stupidity is this?”
Did you click on the link he provided? Of course not. It’s obvious. If you did you‘d have a better grasp on what’s happening in the world. I don‘t think you’re stupid, just uninformed. If you’re going to post on conservative websites and want to be taken seriously, do your homework first.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 10:24pmThanks AZ, but I am well familiar with the need for research. I also know that research does NOT mean you believe everything you read.
I did read that article, and there are a few things to say about it. First of all–your evidence is an opinion column from India? Let’s look at what seems to be “evidence” of a US conspiracy:
“It is clear from the US diplomatic messages revealed by the Wikileaks that the movement was put on course in the year 2007/2008. A secret diplomatic despatch sent on 30 December 2008 by US Ambassador to Egypt, mentions about secret plans for regime change before elections in September 2011.
It is also clear that there were extensive preparations by the April 6 Youth Movement in creating and mobilising 70,000 members of the social network. Wikileaks also indicate the US officials pressurised the Egyptian government to release a large number of dissidents.”
The problem is, that first paragraph implies that the U.S. started the ball rolling on these “secret plans.” However, take a look at that document yourself:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8289698/Egypt-protests-secret-US-document-discloses-support-for-protesters.html
The young dissident, identified only with x’s, did attend a youth conference in New York, and does suggest to the ambassador that there will be a protest movement, but the ambassador is skeptical:
“He alleged that several opposition parties and movements have accepted an unwritten plan for democratic transition by 2011; we are doubtful of this claim.”
As far as the U.S. “pressurizing” (?) Egypt to release dissidents–leaked cables do show the U.S. had been critical of the Egyptian government’s handling of political dissent, but there is NOTHING to suggest that there is any connection between pressure to release political prisoners and the recent riots.
Without these little pieces of “evidence,” the only other thing here is his assertion that it is not a coincidence that Sami Hafez Enan was in the U.S. when the riots broke out. However, he offers no proof to suggest it was anything other than a coincidence.
So there is a bit of research for you. Reading your post, I am struck by the fact that most of your answers to my questions are simply yes.. yes… yes.. with no actual information. Care to elaborate?
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 12:40amI have wracked my brain tonight trying to think of a single instance when barry has made an actual, Presidential descicion about ANYTHING the last two years, and i have come up with nothing. After a week and a half of this “thing’ happenning in Egypt and in Yemen, he made a statement….what….after 5 to 7 days after the fact?
Report Post »This only confirms my opinion that he is nothing but a mouthpiece for those who are REALLY in charge, and not only does HE not know, but those pulling his lower-jaw-strings don’t know either.
THE FIRST order of business for ou 112th Congress is to have him impeached, and his whole administration removed and hold a special election for replacement. And I know this idea is radical and dangerous, but special circumstances call for special solutions.
First, we petition our Governers to collect and copy/paste the Declaration of Independence to the White house, and if 3/4ths of them comply, we then have the numbers for a Constitutional Congress as prescribed by the Constitution. In this Declaration, we ask, by our Governors, that the Obama administration step down, and call for a special election, with the Speaker of the House (John Boehner) as acting President until the elections are over. In this time, the President Pro Tem shall have NO POWERS except given to him by majority vote of the House, and he shall act (latin for “right now”) only in times of extreme emergency with a special vote iven on the floor of the House granting that decision (kinda like a cop asking at 3 AM for a judge to give him the power of warrent).
I really see no other way, given that this President is in total brainlock on important global descisions, and with not only his Country, but the entire WORLD looking to him for leadership, he fails. Over. And Over. And over.
My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 1:28amhifi74
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 9:45am
Walkwithme, are you high? They aren’t a terrorist organization? Woman you need to re-screw your head on. You need to take stock of reality again, not a terrorist organization!!!! They are the group from which Hamas comes from, oooooh right liberal nut-jobs like you think they are a force for good!! OK you like them so much you can go there and get the hell out of my Country, cause I’ll be damned if I am going to let kooks like you ruin MY country for MY kids.
And I’LL BE DAMNED if i let YOU be more militant on here than i AM!!!!
Report Post »LOL, glad to see another ‘target of the huff-pos” besides me on here…..the more of us we are, the more Big Sis has to deploy her workforce to spy on “angry regular Americans”, and the less spy sattalites and UAVs around my house I have to deal with!
Thanks!
My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 1:30amI am a Marine.
79USMC83
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:46am
The “Speech Giver” KNEW all along about Egypt and this is exactly what he wants to happen in the Middle East !!! Why did he give that I APOLOGIZE for America Sermon in Cairo in the first place ????
Social Justice and Sharia Law are he same thing in the eyes of a ONE PARTY rule society !!!! It is funny that when a Presidential campaign is on the Horizon that things get changed by EVENTS !! Health-Care,Economy and unemployment are now are being replaced by Foreign Policy problems!!!
Who do you think the MUSLIM countries want to see as OUR next President, Barry Hussein Obama or a CONSERVATIVE !!!!
Global Economy,Global Warming,Global Justice and Global SHARIA Law is what the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD stand for also !!!
Look at their English website and notice the sickle and hammer communist ad !!
http://www.ikhwanweb.com/articles.php?pid=92
TERM LIMITS NOW !!
FAIR TAX NOW !!
CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS UNITE !!
Call me at 765-546-3265. Now, my Brother.
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 1:42amStuck_in_CA
Posted on February 6, 2011 at 8:48am
MUST READ: White House Insider: Obama is Clueless. Totally Clueless
http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-obama-is-clueless-totally-clueless/
I just read the whole thing, and all I could say the whole time was “Oh My God” over and over. If this is true….then i must repost what I posted on another story….
Report Post »Acxtually, i posted on THIS story. Go figure, but I will be copying/pasting on every damn story the blaze throws at me. Write you Senator, write you Congressman copying and pasting this post.
For Love and fear for your Country, re-write this!
My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 12:40am
I have wracked my brain tonight trying to think of a single instance when barry has made an actual, Presidential descicion about ANYTHING the last two years, and i have come up with nothing. After a week and a half of this “thing’ happenning in Egypt and in Yemen, he made a statement….what….after 5 to 7 days after the fact?
This only confirms my opinion that he is nothing but a mouthpiece for those who are REALLY in charge, and not only does HE not know, but those pulling his lower-jaw-strings don’t know either.
THE FIRST order of business for ou 112th Congress is to have him impeached, and his whole administration removed and hold a special election for replacement. And I know this idea is radical and dangerous, but special circumstances call for special solutions.
First, we petition our Governers to collect and copy/paste the Declaration of Independence to the White house, and if 3/4ths of them comply, we then have the numbers for a Constitutional Congress as prescribed by the Constitution. In this Declaration, we ask, by our Governors, that the Obama administration step down, and call for a special election, with the Speaker of the House (John Boehner) as acting President until the elections are over. In this time, the President Pro Tem shall have NO POWERS except given to him by majority vote of the House, and he shall act (latin for “right now”) only in times of extreme emergency with a special vote iven on the floor of the House granting that decision (kinda like a cop asking at 3 AM for a judge to give him the power of warrent).
I really see no other way, given that this President is in total brainlock on important global descisions, and with not only his Country, but the entire WORLD looking to him for leadership, he fails. Over. And Over. And over.
My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 1:46amPubliusPencilman
Report Post »I disagree, and refuse to give your arguement an ear. Now shut your pathetic hole, as your mouth spews nothing but propaganda against America and her security.
That is all I have to say to you.
My Sacred Honor
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 2:01amPubliusPencilman
Report Post »i have read your arguements against AZPATRIOT MOM and i must ask only one question to you. You answer will determine a LOT.
What if you are wrong, and the story is right? What, if anything, do you have in your arsenol to defend what is yours and what you love? Anything? Do you have any plan at all, or are you relying on “status quo’ to carry you along to your retirement years?
So again I ask, “what then?”
What then?
Do you have a plan as you watch your family die from starvation? Do you have a plan to defend yourself from home invaders? Do you have ANY plan in case you are wrong? If so, I’d LOVE to hear it, but I suspect you are biting at the worm your lib/propagandists are feeding you on the tip of a hook that “all is well, nothing for you to see here/carry on with your wonderful day”
If this is true, and i pray that it is because this is an arguement you can be dissuaded from, then run. Run fast and run swift, and find someone….ANYONE who can help you to turn away from this madness thinking, and can turn your eyes directly into the light of truth, and I PRAY that you see that truth and seek it every day in your life!
Time is short, and growing shorter by the second. You MUST find the truth and be free, or be a slave for all eternity.
AZpatriotmama
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 2:18amPubliusPencilman:
First of all, what I offered you was a template for orchestrated regime change as “food for thought”. And the template applies to more current events than just the ones in Egypt.
I really don’t feel the need to give you proof of anything or do your research for you. I’ll give you a couple of places to start and a couple of tips, and then you can do the research, plug the facts into the template and decide for yourself.
For proof of the existence of similar templates used in the past, you have to research history.
For proof that the US has orchestrated regime change in the past, research US history.
Try searching “manipulation of the global economy” and see where that takes you. If you end up at a conservative website (unfortunately most left leaning sites are spinning the truth these days), don’t just write it all off, research the facts. You might also try searching “George Soros manipulation of the global economy”.
Speaking of Mr. Soros, did you know of the connection between him, El Baradei and the Muslim Brotherhood? Research.
Did you know that MB members/leaders were appointed to positions in the current administration? Research.
Try searching “Days of Rage”. You‘ll find that it’s not just the name of the protests in Egypt, it‘s the name of Bill Ayers’ 1969 protests. Coincidence? Maybe – maybe not. Now search “Bill Ayers Egypt”.
If you want to have some real fun, search “shadow government”.
When you have proof that the Egypt protests were NOT orchestrated, let me know.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 6:35amAZ,
Report Post »Haha. Exactly the response I expected. You can keep your “tips.” You simply don’t want to engage in a reasonable argument, and instead you fall back on the kind of unsubstantiated trash that clogs the internet. I’ll say again, don’t believe everything you read.
AZpatriotmama
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 12:34pmPubliusPencilman:
…and if you don’t read, you’ll never learn anything.
I take back what I said earlier. You ARE stupid and WILL ALWAYS BE uninformed.
If you want to close your mind on the real events of the world, go back to your left-wing echo chamber sites. They’re a great pacifier for people who are afraid of the real world.
I’m done.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on February 7, 2011 at 1:30pmCall me crazy, but isn’t Hillary looking drunk in most of her news clips lately?
Report Post »Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on February 8, 2011 at 4:28amI didn’t want to add much except to say that John McCain should just join the Democratic party.
Report Post »He is sure acting like one