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CNN Asks Past Surgeon General if She Would Smoke Legalized Pot

Mediaite’s Steve Krakauer brings us the odd exchange between CNN’s Don Lemon and former U.S. surgeon general under Pres. Bill Clinton, Joycelyn Elders. Apparently curious after Elders told the New York Times that we consume “far more dangerous drugs that are legal,” Lemon asked if Elders would smoke pot if it were legal:

Elders responds that she has never smoked marijuana in the past and that at her age (77) she doesn’t plan on starting anything new. She does, however, argue marijuana should be legal “for adults.” Too many people, she says, are being “criminalized” for “non-violent” crimes related to smoking pot, and pot has never “directly” caused anyone to die since it is not a toxic substance.

Kraukaur notes that marijuana has been a popular October topic on cable news TV. CNN has mentioned it 114 times, Fox News 81, and MSNBC 64. According to Lemon legalized pot initiatives are on the ballot in four states next month.

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  • sawman
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:31pm

    First and foremost, I am against legalizing any new recreational drugs or substances. It is probably inevitable that it will eventually be legalized. I believe, however, that it should not be legal until law enforcement is given the necessary tools to do an on-the-spot intoxication test. Employers should also be legally able to take actions against anybody working in a state of intoxication. Anybody using these substances should be made aware that their future employment priviledges are in jeopardy.

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    • IM4GOD
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 2:05pm

      Sawman,
      I suppose you sit down after a long day and have a nice glass of grape juice, or maybe a can of near-beer. People have wanted to relax after work since before Christ. Speaking of which, he didn’t exactly turn water into grape juice, did he?
      Leaving pot in it’s current illegal state, is simply saying you want to leave it in the hands of the cartels and gangs.
      Please know that I am 60 years old, and haven‘t smoked pot since I was in my 20’s (which I smoked on a daily basis) … so much for the gateway drug argument.
      As far as employers taking action .. they have always had that that right. If someone is not doing their job, you have the legal right to fire them (regardless of WHY they aren’t doing their job).
      With unemployment as high as it is, do you really think someone is going to run out to smoke some pot at work, just because it’s legal?

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  • catndahat
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:23pm

    It should be decriminalized for personal use only, bought from a legal entity–but illegal trafficking should still be a criminal offense, just as with scrip meds. Ideally most people who use will learn to garden.

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  • AmericanMomma
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:21pm

    Personally, its not for me…but for those who choose to smoke it…its their choice. Its readily available, legally or not. Just because it is illegal does not stop people from using it. I think our taxpayer dollars could be spent more wisely by going after Crystal Meth, Cocaine, Crack, Heroin, Prescription drug abusers/suppliers. These users really need rehabilitation, jail time for junkies alone really doesn’t prevent them from relapsing and re-entering jail. I think we would get “more bang for our buck”, and help break the cycle. Also, if pot legalized, it would take $ away from the drug cartels, in my opinion.

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    • Nvrforget
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:51pm

      Not only that: Pot would take money away from the cartels and put it into state coffers, as it could now be taxed!

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    • AmericanSoldier
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 3:18pm

      What the difference between Pot and hard drugs? Let them screw their life up

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  • IM4GOD
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:20pm

    What planet are these people from, that STILL believe pot is a “Gateway” drug.
    That’s like saying milk is a gateway drug to alcohol,
    I can’t believe there are still people in this day and age that still believe the crap that our government has put out there. These people much have really been touched by that old “Reefer Madness” movie that we were all FORCED to watch back in the 60′s.
    For those of you that sill think leaving pot illegal and leaving the sales in the hands of the cartels and gangs is the right thing to do, then I would love to sell you some property, just north of the north pole!

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  • temple62
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:08pm

    Such a stupid, ignorant person! And this person was surgeon general? Unbelievable but then like Obama’s presidency, this was obviously the liberal’s little experiment in “social justice”. Unbelievable in both situations, like watching The Planet of the Apes only this is for real!

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  • The_Big_Z
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:50pm

    Ugh. Who teaches these people to speak? Marijuana users are not being “criminalized.” To criminalize a person means to treat an innocent person as a criminal (i.e. I am criminalizing Ms. Elders for her abuse of the English language). To criminalize an act is to make it illegal. Possession of marijuana cannot be criminalized, as it is already a crime. Marijuana users cannot be criminalized, because they are truly guilty of breaking an actual law. Ms. Elders’ intellectually vacant tactic of trying to portray criminals as victims cheapens her argument.

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  • nkawtg
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:28pm

    Sure, legalize dope and let’s see how incredibly stupid America gets.
    Let’s keep the proletariat…I mean the population as docile as a lamb.
    They will do anything to keep those who advocate legalized drugs in office once they’re hooked.

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    • NoName22
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:14pm

      NKTAWG

      Will you smoke if it becomes legal? Sounds like you won’t. Guess what, stupid person A just lost their job, perhaps you and others will be around to take it, since you’re not stupid.

      To think everyone is just gonna get dumb and do nothing is absolutely naive and ludicrous. I‘m not saying addiction won’t become an issue or anything, but there are those who will seek and capitalize on the opportunities. That’s America.

      You watch way to much mainstream media. Drugs & Alcohol. WTF is the difference? None.

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  • Ziplock
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:27pm

    Pot makes you stupid. I guess you can argue that it is not a crime to be stupid…but that is stupid. If they pass these laws, they should not complain about college students that fail their classes, or an increase in people on welfare, or employers that fire workers for smoking pot on or off the job.

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    • Tightie Rightie
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:39pm

      Here’s the problem Ziplock. In a free society people are allowed to be stupid. For the sake of arguement, let’s imagine a world where Wash. DC is not the arbiter of all things. People would be allowed to smoke pot and be stupid. Employers would be allowed to drug test and fire such stupid people. There’s no unemployment or welfare to pay people who are stupid so they run out of cash to purchase drugs. So they invade your house to rob you and you’re allowed to shoot stupid people who do so. Thus endeth one more stupid person and you‘re allowed to enjoy freedom in a country that’s not a nanny to any special interest. Hmm… staring to think I may be more libertarian than right-wing.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 2:11pm

      C’mon in Tightie, the water is warm!!!!

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    • AmericanPatriot01
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 3:07pm

      No, your ok there Tighty, DON”T DRINK THE KOOL-AID!!!!
      We see the logic in the principal of less government controls and natural consequence in most situations.
      Progressives see it as a way to rebel against the machine.

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    • Rapunzel
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:32pm

      No it doesn’t. That is a stupid remark…please note how I refrained from calling you stupid.

      My SAT scores were in the 97th percentile back in 1976, and my IQ tested at 136 a few years ago. I don’t call that stupid, do you?

      Now excuse me while I fire one up…

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  • Hugh Williams
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:18pm

    I finally agree with her, she is correct about this.

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  • sorebird
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:15pm

    No reason whatsoever that the federal government has the authority to stop an individual from smoking or growing pot.

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  • Tightie Rightie
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:05pm

    Frankly, the reach of the federal government SHOULD end at the beginning of my property line. Works good in theory at any rate.

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  • DaddyKev
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:02pm

    Will there be less drug smuggling by those evil drug gangs at the border if it were legalized? People could grow their own without any risk of going to jail. BTW I see nothing wrong for a hard working man or woman smoking pot on the weekend after a hard week of work to unwind.

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  • RalphWaldoPanza
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:58am

    The noise in her head–bong bong bong.

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  • Amerigo Vespucci
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:39am

    To follow her logic:
    “and pot has never “directly” caused anyone to die since it is not a toxic substance”
    Since we can directly tie animal fat to obesity, and people die of obesity all the time, we should make the consumption of animal fat illegal.

    A mind is a terrible think to waste…

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    • Rapunzel
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 6:39pm

      That’s actually a very progressive goal. Although they don’t want to outlaw animal fat because of the danger to humans, but rather due to the danger methane gas emissions to the earth.

      Please use real logic the next time. The fact that pot is not toxic is quite valid and an argument in its favor, whereas consumption of animal fat is only a minor factor in obesity (lack of exercise of course is the primary factor).

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  • NoName22
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:39am

    Listen to your Elder(s). She knows whats up.

    Genesis 1:11-12 (KJ)
    “11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
    12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.”

    Pharmaceutical companies are the biggest obstacle to legalization. Anyone here ever been hungover or sick (cold, fever) and burned one? You feel a hell of a lot better, FASTER, than from popping pills. And it helps you eat, which is what you need to do to heal up. Tylenol, Motrin, they affect your liver and kidneys……..synthetic substances, whereas marijuana hurts your lungs (if you smoke it that is, you can eat it).

    It is absolutely hypocritical to have cigarettes with rat poison and formeldihyde (however you spell it) and alcohol, which is physically addictive, causes TONS of domestic violence……and say a naturally occuring plant is worse.

    Either ban them all (which we know doesnt work) or legalize (which will work.)

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    • moriarty70
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:50am

      I’m with you except for the one point about alcohol. It doesn’t cause domestic violence, an ******* would beat his wife/children with or without the booze.

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    • Inuyasha
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:14pm

      Legalize and regulate. Let personal freedom be just that, personal freedom. If what you do is bad for you, you will reap those consequences. Either way, it‘s none of the government’s business. Besides, I would much rather be around someone who is stoned than drunk, they are much more bearable.

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    • Star Spangled
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:13pm

      Native Americans used it as medicine for lots of things .
      And Elders is right about people who smoke pot are not more violent , they just chill and giggle a lot from what I’ve seen .

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  • Nukenik
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:36am

    My advice? Buy stock in Frito Lay.

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    • john seven eighteen
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:04pm

      LOL, that may be practical advice!

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    • AmericanPatriot01
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 2:45pm

      yea doritos and twinkies!!!!!! Pretty much anything salty or sweet snack foods. Oh and head shops that sell the paraphinalia. I also can see coffee and tea shops like they have in Amsterdam.

      There will still be laws and regulations in place where you will have to test clean to work in certain fields for safety reasons. People get fired all the time for coming to work drunk or drinking on the job, pot would be the same way.

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  • Amerigo Vespucci
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:36am

    So, to follow her logic:

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  • apmurray
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:34am

    We need to legalize it and tax it and quit spending millions of dollars trying to eradicate it. I saw a documentary and there are DEA agents in California flying around in helicopters 12 hour a day 6 days a week trying to find illegal pot farms in national parks. I don’t know much about helicopters, but I know they are not cheap to fly, plus there’s about 5 people per helicopter that probably make a pretty good salary. When they do find the farms and destroy the marijuana, the criminals are only out about $10,000 in startup cost. I don’t see how we can win if we are spending so much more money than the criminals; we will go bankrupt before they do.

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    • Ken
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 2:03pm

      You “are” kidding, right?

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    • walkwithme1966
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 7:23am

      I saw that documentary also – growing the stuff right in the national parks – unbelievable!

      Sacred Text

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  • cruisemates
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:34am

    I agree the de-criminalizing marijuana makes a lot of sense. Mandatory drug sentencing laws have people busted for mere pot serving 25 years in prison. YOU are paying for that. I do believe pot is a gateway drug, but make it a large fine, payable by community service if you don’t have the money.

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    • walkwithme1966
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:08pm

      It is not a gateway drug – I know plenty of people that smoke pot and have never gone on to other drugs. Alcohol is the worst drug – alcoholism is a raging disease and the number of people killed by drivers who are drunk is staggering. It would also go a long way to stopping the Mexican drug gangs from peddling pot in this country. http://wp.me/pYLB7-gd

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    • M31Sailor
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:19pm

      Walk
      This will be a perfect way to crack down on the Illegals bringing in drugs across the Mex-American border. We can give them a Muling under the influence test “ MUI Test”, Then can we send these Illegals back?? No ,,i didn’t thik you would go for this either.

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    • Hugh Williams
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:21pm

      I agree with WALKWITHME1966…. Pray for me. lol

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    • NoName22
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:23pm

      Gateway drug is propaganda. How many people drink before they smoke??????????????

      Is alcohol a gateway drug?????????????? Are cigarettes a gateway drug???????????????

      Total propaganda.

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    • ilovethiscountry
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:41pm

      The worst gateway drug is nicotine. It is extremely addicting. We little to keep people from smoking, and I don’t think we should. We tax it and make lots of money. Nicotine is more dangerous to ones health than smoking marjuana.

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    • Republic Under God
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:01pm

      Also, I think the stigma they stick on pot is so strong, when people finally disregard the warnings and see what a big deal it is NOT, it then brings into question all the harder drugs which have a legitimate stigma associated with them.
      Legalizing pot would actually advance the war on drugs (a waste of $hundreds of billions $ so far).

      1) We could reinvest resources that currently look for pot into hunting down more serious substances
      2) You take away the best tool dealers have to break people into the drug black-market\

      Honestly I don’t know why we invest so much money in cracking down on drugs period when, the actual CRACKING DOWN make sit lucrative and therefore appealing. Drug prices would drop drastically, and consequently their profitability. Let people make their choices. If they choose to ruin their lives and minds with the drugs, so be it. The only group I could argue needs any protection unter the law are the children. This is because I understand the role drugs can play as a tool to dismantle our society.

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    • Republic Under God
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:17pm

      Forgot to include the beginning of the above post: And edit out allt he typoes but I think you all can manage:

      Cruisemates, I think the only reason pot is a gateway drug is because it is illegal. If it was legalized, the people who smoke it would- like those who drink – not really be exposing themselves to the drug black market. The fact is most people who sell pot also sell other more dangerous items (including the danger of a heftier prison sentence i.e. 1 extacy tablet = manslaughter). The ice was already broken with pot and the constant contact with the black market (as required to purchase this illegal item) constantly exposes the purchaser to these various much more dangerous substances.

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    • Paradigmm
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:31pm

      Saying marijuana is a gateway to harder drug is like saying milk is a gateway to beer. The only reason it has been perceived as a gateway is because in many cases in order to get it, you have to go to the same dealers that deal in harder drugs. Dealers know that marijuana is not addictive and people can stop whenever they choose, but getting off crack or heroin is another story. So why wouldn’t a dealer try to push the harder more addictive drugs, keeps them coming back for more.

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    • Rapunzel
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:35pm

      Cruise – Republic has it right: Pot is not a gateway drug, but it is sold in a gateway market. At some point in the dealer chain, there’s going to be someone who supplies other drugs aside from pot and who naturally wants to market those products as well.

      I believe that as all plants were created by God and given to man, they should be legal to grow, sell and use in their natural state. However I do support the regulation of synthesized drugs.

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    • JGP
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 2:44pm

      I’ve recently started changing my mind about the legalization of pot since I live in South Texas close to these friggin cartel idiots. But I also know that pot isn’t the only contraband creating the violence. Our multi-millionaire celebs have got to have their blow.

      People (their character) have abused alchohol when it was illegal or legal. The same happens with pot. We’ve got to make it socially unacceptable (by peer presure, not from federal laws) to be publicly intoxicated, smoking cigarettes (I think there’s less smokers now?), and walking around glass eyed stoned.

      Other than that, if people choose to f*** up, they need to suffer the consequences.

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    • AmericanPatriot01
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 2:53pm

      Hugh – I know, right? I am still in shock that i agree with something walkwmd posted. Maybe, there is hope for the progressives after all. Can’t wait till he gets his eyes opened to the way he has been manipulated and indoctrinated by the progressive agenda.

      I think for us this issue just represents our desire for less govt control in all aspects of life.
      For him, I think he just likes to get high. I may be wrong. He might just be trying to piss someone off, LOL.

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    • AmericanSoldier
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 3:07pm

      The only reason it can be considered a “gateway drug” is because you have to go to an illegal drug dealer who will up sell you to something more expensive.

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  • Rogue
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:28am

    I’m guessing her and Bubba had it around the office during briefings, but they never inhaled.

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  • Highland
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:27am

    Dr. Elders always seemed to be under the influence of some mind-altering drug. Eric Clapner!!

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    • EYESWIDEOPEN13
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:33pm

      Don’t you see… That is the plan. Legalize pot. Please, really… no one has committed a crime while under the influence?? How would we know for sure? Read the Communist plan that GB highlighted on his show a few months ago. This is all part of the plan. If we have a bunch of dope smoking burnouts, (legally), they will be easy to influence. As a side note, ask a meth addict what the last drug was they used before they moved to meth. Chances are, it was pot. This I know from family experience. Pot is a gateway drug and by the government endorsing it, more people (younger) will use it, and of course pay the taxes. If the government says it’s legal, then of course it isn’t bad for me! Then will come the lawsuits…cigarette industry ring a bell??? If they are so bad for you, why in God’s name are they still on the market and legal?? MONEY fools. It is all about money and control. Of course, then the government would buy the pot from Mexico legally, and the drug running would stop, right. Yeah and I have a beautiful beachfront property in Mexico I can sell you real cheap.

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  • theninthplanet
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:24am

    They’ll crack down on pot, because its a federal law, but not on immigration, because its racist.

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    • thesixfour
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:33am

      Amazing point. The hypocrisy is full to the brim.

      Holder also already said they would prosecute to the full extent of federal law for anyone selling, possessing, or smoking pot, even with the passage of Prop 19.

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    • snowleopard3200
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:40am

      Interesting Mr Obama says he will not crack down on the california pot laws just a few months ago, now they have done an apperant 180 on the subject.

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    • Ellie
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:20pm

      It’s ironic as well since a key reason pot was made illegal was so law enforcement would be able to arrest and deport Mexicans while the white folks kept enjoying their laudanum (opium) and cocaine laced snuff.

      Three things more addictive and deadly then pot:

      1. Air – Nitrogen+Oxygen: 5 Minutes without it equals certain death. When taken in compressed form can result in Nitrogen Narcosis (like at the dentist) continue to increase your intake and Oxygen poisoning kicks in causing you to “rust” internally. Death within a few minutes.

      2. Water – a few days without equals certain death. Drink too much in too short a time without letting it out and you die from water poisoning in a matter of hours.

      3. Sunlight – Needed for proper nutrition, warmth, and food production. Two days in the desert sun without water or shade equals death.

      There is no known toxicity level for THC & CBDs (active chemicals in pot). Research on CBDs that has only been possible under the medical MJ laws have shown that CBDs are naturally produced by the human brain as a necessary component in _completing_ a thought. Now MJ is used as an effective treatment for ADHD, OCD, Alcohol, and Cigarette addiction as well as dozens of other conditions where the legal treatments bring with them tons of often deadly side effects.

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    • AmericanPatriot01
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 2:24pm

      It also is used as a treatment for Glocoma, Cancer, MS. PTSD and other anxiety related disorders.

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    • AmericanPatriot01
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 2:29pm

      IT seems to me that mr obama will do just about anything to offend and alienate the american people. If they are for it he will attack it, if they are against it he will support and promote it. Makes me sick to think he is in countrol of our country.

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  • M31Sailor
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:22am

    Elders : No
    I sold it
    I hired some college kid named Barry to sell Coke and Pot to his fellow students at Haaaaaaaavad

    Both of us did quite well, Great thing Capitalism

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  • Da Vinci
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:22am

    So the past surgeon general is promoting smoking?

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    • sweetbees
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:50am

      I guess since they can’t control it…legalize it! Still doesn’t make it right!!!

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    • angrymob
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 12:58pm

      **sigh**

      I don’t want this to pass in CA.

      Marijuana not a toxic substance? It alters your state of mind – that can’t be a good thing!

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    • Paradigmm
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:17pm

      I don’t believe it to be a matter of whether it’s harmful to your body or not. For the record, alcohol, cigarettes and prescription drugs are far more dangerous. It’s a matter of constitutional rights. If I smoke pot in the privacy of my own home and my actions hurt no one nor does it infringe on another’s rights, what right does anyone else have to tell me I shouldn’t do it? Are we not a republic? In a Republic it doesn’t matter what 99% of the people think, that 1% can do what they see fit as long as it does not infringe on others, or am I wrong?

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    • DimmuBorgir
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:39pm

      I think it should be legal. In the perody film “Super High Me” a doctor was asked his position. He said he would never advise someone to burn any leaves and inhale them, but that he did see advantages to marijuana being used for medical reasons. I’m kinda in that group. Obviously there are risks to inhaling anything that’s burned. Then again, I smoke all the time ;)

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    • Nvrforget
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:41pm

      Angrymob, what is your opinion on alcohol? It alters your state of mind and is totally legal to buy, own and use.

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    • Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 2:07pm

      So is mind altering the point where you get to start telling people what they can put in their bodies? Do you feel similarly about caffine, nicotine, alcohol, herbal suplements, MAOI’s, etc? Or, is it just chemicals that you have associated a stigma with?

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    • SOFLARIDER
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 2:42pm

      Angrymob, hard exercise alters your mind. Should we outlaw it?

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    • angrymob
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 2:56pm

      You guys have a point…I think one my uncles would faint dead away if they outlawed beer! :)))

      Anyways, I think CA’s gonna pass this law, but I in no way think it will help the hole CA’s gotten itself into. Our politicians here in CA are some of the most irresponsible…whether it legalizes or not – short of a miracle we’re sunk as a state!

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    • angrymob
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 3:08pm

      BUT I still don’t want this legalized.

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    • Nvrforget
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 4:05pm

      Angrymob, would you elaborate on your point? You have every right to your opinion, of course, but I’d like to understand your reasons.

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 12:37am

      ROTHBARDIAN_IN_THE_CLEVE
      love ya man but win will you learn that your dealing with the judeo neocon christian right on this site? Despite what old beck says he is no where near a libertarian, objectovist, or lockest. Jest the age old statist right.

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    • angrymob
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 1:52am

      @ Nvrforget

      Yes, I’ll clarify my reason for not wanting pot legalized: legalizing marijuana will open the doors to other more serious drugs being legalized in time. Not for it now; not for it EVER!

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    • Sam I am
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 11:35pm

      It’s for the children.

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  • We Are Not Alone
    Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:20am

    MUST SEE:

    WE THE PEOPLE youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVAhr4hZDJE

    Makes you proud to be an American ♥

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    • pajamash
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 11:37am

      The democratic party = The party that says yes to every single thing under the sun.

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    • SpawnofThomasJefferson
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:09pm

      ~ “If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my poscket, what business is it of mine” — TJ

      ALL politicians need to get the hell out of our lives. No matter the party.

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:24pm

      She said privately; I’d smoke it, but not inhale :-)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ3OxZhXKQ0

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    • IM4GOD
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 1:29pm

      We Are Not Alone … Thank you for that link, it made me think of my father that faught in WWII for me and you, and made me think of how our current government (both sides) are trying really hard to destroy everything that our soldiers have died for!

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    • Ken
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 2:09pm

      Amen to that (the video, I mean)!!!

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    • AmericanPatriot01
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 2:18pm

      Get the gov’t out of my life. End prohibition of marijuana, tax it, regulate it, and treat it like alcohol. We will save billions of dollars we currently spend on enforcement and incarceration of non- violent offender possession offenders. No one has ever overdosed or died from smoking pot. Pot does not induce violent or criminal behavior. Benjamin Franklin was an avid smoker. It was one of George Washinton’s primary crops due to the versatility of the plant itself. It was a major resource for the textile industry.

      So, Save billions yearly and increase our GDP and tax revenues in the same action, makes sense to me.

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    • american1st
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 2:29pm

      i have to side with the libertarians on this one, legalize it, tax it, and regulate it, prohibition is a failure and a violation of rights, I don’t smoke and have nothing to gain from it, its just the right thing to do…

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    • youngwitty
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 4:43pm

      Yes to everything but guns. Boy isn’t that wierd?

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    • NoName22
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 4:57pm

      While they are at it, get opium legal (not heroin or morphine) but opium. The coca leaf should be allowed as well (not cocaine.) These are NATURALLY OCCURING plants. They were put on this earth by it’s creator.

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    • Auto Otto
      Posted on October 18, 2010 at 8:07pm

      PAJAMASH
      The Democrats do say no they say no to the 1, 2, 10 , 11 , 22 Amendments out right in the closet they don’t like all 27

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on October 19, 2010 at 12:33am

      AMERICAN1ST
      Hell ya! legalize it. But for the love of god don’t tax it or regulate it. Are your really calling for taxes and regulation? Read a book on economics. then check out some stuff on political philosophy.

      Don’t come back with the age old question ether. Yes i would legalize meth.

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