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CO Women’s Shelters Lose Federal Funding Over Mandatory Bible Studies

Mandatory Bible studies have led to the loss of federal funds for two Colorado women’s shelters. The Gospel Shelter for Women centers, which are non-profit organizations, offer assistance to individuals who are mentally ill. Additionally, they provide transitional housing for the homeless and those struggling with addiction.

(Related: Glenn Beck interviews shelter director and surprises her with $55,000 donation)

There’s nothing new about the religious elements associated with both facilities, as both Liza’s Place and Hope Home — the shelters at the center of this funding cut — have always been faith-based and open about fully embracing Christianity. KXRM-TV has more:

Apparently, the women who go through these facilities are required to participate in Bible studies as a portion of their treatment. In the past, these studies were believed to be optional, so officials allowed monies to be allocated in support of the shelters. But the revelation that participants are forced to take part in religious activities has led to a major funding loss.

Faced with a tough decision, leaders of the organization decided to keep prayer and faith in the program. Of course, the other option would be to continue accepting federal dollars, while taking faith out of the equation.

“They wanted me to get some of the Christianity out of the program, and we just couldn’t do that,” said Marilyn Vyzourek, the founder and executive director of Liza’s Place. “The meat of what we do here is the Bible studies.”

According to Vyzourek, the shelter has undergone two cuts, which constitute between $50,000 and $55,000 each year. This, she says, is about 25 percent of the overall income taken in. As a result, leaders have been forced to stop offering much-needed counseling programs, lay off an employee and give up one of the vehicles that is owned by the facility.

Bob Holmes is the executive director of Homeward Pikes Peak, the agency that helps disseminate the $1.88 million in HUD money that is allocated each year. In speaking about the decision to cut funding to the shelters, he was clear that the agency was previously confused regarding the nature of the Bible studies.

“HUD is very, very, very strict, very unequivocal, about programs have to be of a secular nature,” he said. “We talked with Marilyn, and I think she made a well-informed decision that she needed to stand up for what she believed in, and we respect that. “But to continue to fund her knowing what we know would have jeopardized our entire HUD funding.”

While Holmes says that he is a major fan of Vyzourek’s, he says he’s intent on upholding regulations. “But HUD rules are HUD rules. You always need to follow the rules that funders set up,” he reiterates.

Vyzourek, who claims to have a 60 percent success rate among the 700 women who have gone through her program, doesn’t regret the decision to choose faith over state funding. ”The reason that I’m holding fast to this is because it is the best thing for the ladies,” she said.

Below, learn more about the shelters:

Now, the center will look for other ways, via private channels, to make up for the loss of funding.

(H/T: ColoradoConnection.com)

Comments (227)

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  • ofallon
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:06am

    Pray for generous charitable donations to keep up the good work. Forget the government money.

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    • Twinspeedr
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:18am

      Please consider donating…

      http://www.gospel-home-cs.org/donate.html

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    • thegrassroots
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:32am

      What if they became affiliated with a church?

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:40am

      Although I don’t support Newt because of his stance on war. and because he recieved money from Freddy Mac , then campaigned for them and has been serving on Obama favorite Jeffry Immelt’s Healthmagination, a GE company, with Tom Daschle, that is posed to make billions from Obamacare. nevertheless.. what he says in this video shows Newts historical knowledge and what this country in times past has done to rid itself of governmental enemies..It is definitely worth the watch.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=qtjfMjjce2Y

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    • db321
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:47am

      Glen Beck just donated $55,000 to this Charity on his radio program – some talk the talk and others walk the walk. God Bless Glenn Beck.

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    • Sammye
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:04am

      Thanks for supplying the link to donate. I pray many more do.

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    • kmichaels
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:06am

      AshesToAshes still playing his retarded Saul Alinsky tactics I see. What a putz.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:33am

      @KMICHAELS Hi Michael..I am so sorry that my informative views bother you and your agenda… I merely state the facts and let the people decide for themselves..For instance..Newt has some great historical knowledge and can give insight on how this country can be turned around..as for war..we are broke and need to build up our millitary here at home in place of funding militaries around the world..A man can talk the talk but can he walk the walk.? It pays to look at his job performance and if he’s had shady business practices in the past. If memory serves me correctly..we supported Russia when they said they didn’t have the money to feed themselves..while they worked underground on their nuclear arsenal..Oh and Michaels..I would like to congratulate you on cleaning up your act..you are behaving much more honorably.

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    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:47am

      Good job, government. Tax money shouldn’t go to drivel like this.

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    • ofallon
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:49am

      Thank God for Glenn Beck and his wife Tonya for their generosity and answered prayer as the tears well up in my eyes.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 12:06pm

      So HUD asked these women to chose between their God and money…….Guess they got their answer in short order. Government wants to be God and it’s time everyone whose believes in the Almighty to show them how insignificant Government is in the eyes of those who believe in God.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 12:06pm

      @Michaels..just one more thing..Saul Alinsky tactics : Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. A lie is the truth and the truth is The goal is a progression into communism…which Michaels…is what we are trying to prevent..you know…The New World Order..which we first heard from George Bush Sr. All of the men running right now Michael are NWO ..except for Ron Paul…why do you think that he gets no media coverage.. Didn‘t you read about Cain’s connections to the Koch’s which are supposedly his brothers by another mother? And somehow they have made money by supplying Iran with something that they needed to produce oil. If you didn’t know..Lady Bird Johnson made money off the Viet Nam war witih medical supplies, while Rockefellows made money by selling weapons to the enemies.. Really Michaels..we are for America., for Capitalism and for freedom..Don’t play into their hands man..come out of it.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 12:36pm

      It also sounds like HUD just created a law that prohibits religion….First amendment ring a bell.
      Thing is HUD give money to charitable programs(which this is a part of) to cut government funding because a small part of this program is reading and studing thye bible. IS IN FACT PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THERE OF. Basicly using government funding as a bribe to destroy the religious foundation within this non-profit orginazation. SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE NEEDS TO GET AN ATTORNEY AND THE LEADERSHIP AT hud NEEDS TO GET PINK SLIPS.

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    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 1:05pm

      Tax money should not go to support forced religious studies. Stop crying because their hand out dried up.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 1:25pm

      Tax money should not go to support forced religious studies. Stop crying because their hand out dried up
      Tax money wasn’t been used to force people to take bible studies.
      Bibles are all but free just as the time these women have is free. The tax dollars were being used for housing,clothing,food,power,heating,computers and a host of other things this charity provided.

      However tax dollars were used as a bribe to stop these women from introducing God to women who sorely needed structure and a message of love in their lives. The act of which is clearly UnConstitution as it is an attempt to PROHIBIT THE FREE EXERCISE THERE OF.

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    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 2:29pm

      They should also force them to pray to mecca then.

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 2:52pm

      This topic brought out all the NUTS. Flash a Bible Verse at these idiots and the few little grey cells that they use go spastic. Funny as hell.

      Dump Barry 2012

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    • Cerealface
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 2:56pm

      60 percent success rate among the 700 women

      That‘s a ’D’ in school.

      Or in other schools, a ‘F’

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    • kmichaels
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 3:28pm

      Again, since AshesToAshes is a very slow learner, your Saul Alinsky tactics are not any better than the typical liberal. Just because you are a libertarian does not excuse your foul and lying tactics. Now toddle off, little man.

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    • kmichaels
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 3:33pm

      [Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 1:05pm
      Tax money should not go to support forced religious studies.]

      Why? What specific law prevents it? Hell, we have forced liberal studies in public school. Why should free speech and freedom to practice religion be any different? Eh, dimwitted lying liberal troll?

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:02pm

      @encinom

      Washington’s 1789 Thanksgiving Day Proclamation:

      WHEREAS it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favour; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me “to recommend to the people of the United States a DAY OF PUBLICK THANSGIVING and PRAYER, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness:”

      Continued…

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:03pm

      Oops. My above post intended for another user.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:09pm

      @KMICHAELS It’s too bad Michaels that you choose to blindly follow something..much like a stubborn child…that will only get you into trouble..You will be crying like a baby if you get your way because you are to insolent and too lazy to investigate for yourself..If I didn’t know better..I would say that you were involved pretty heavily in their campaigns and are benefitting some way..Because you are certainly trying your best to lead people and this country down the path to their and its demise… I feel sorry for you Michaels.

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    • kmichaels
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:20pm

      [ashestoashes
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:09pm
      @KMICHAELS It’s too bad Michaels that you choose to blindly follow something..much like a stubborn child]

      Hypocrisy much? Sounds just like your typical Ron Paul nutcase follower.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:36pm

      MICHAELS I have never voted anything but Conservative my whole life..and the last election I voted for Sarh Palin…not John McCain..Had Sarah not run I would not have voted.. The Conservative Party is not what it was and they have all blended into the NWO faction..They have a plan for us Michaels…great big government..litttle bitty us.. You won’t like what happens to us..That’s why I support Ron Paul .and the Constitution..we may not ever be turned around..only if God be willing..but they are all progressives now just in Conservative and Liberal Clothing…I just want a shot at turning our country back to its roots..There’s all kinds of time to mess it all up again Michaels..but we need someone to help us now..

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    • corbecket
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:45pm

      Walk away from that government money. They should never even have considered government funding for something as important as religious teachings. As soon as the government gets you hooked with grants, you end up doing exactly as the government tells you (and they will tell you to do, and not do, a lot).

      Government funding of religious pursuits ends up being purely evil in the end. There is plenty of charitable money available for such projects, without the government control and directives. If you believe in what these people are doing, break out the checkbook. No one is stopping you.

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    • SomeRandomPerson
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:54pm

      Here’s an idea, they could have the Bible studies OPTIONAL. I have no problem at all with these programs having Bible studies, but what I do have a problem with is when they force it on people. I’ve been to a couple myself and forcing it hardly ever works. Jesus never forced his message on anyone.

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    • Wayne
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 5:21pm

      Amen, what makes me mad if it was Muslims our government would furnish them a place to pray and worship That piece of crap Muhammed.

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 5:33pm

      @colt1860
      Speeches are not law. The language of the Consttution is clear, God was written out of American law. We are a Secular NAtion, Christian’s live here, but we are a secular, democratic republic.

      Additoinally, the First Amendment, was modified by the 14th Amendment, making the 1st Amendment’s prohibtion of state religions applicable to the states also.

      Most here on the blaze are similar to the taleban in your desire to impose a theocracy, in your case a christian theocracy, but a theocracy. There is nothing more anti-american than that.

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    • StonyBurk
      Posted on November 16, 2011 at 8:46am

      Lincoln calling from the Grave— We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of heaven….But we have forgotten God…..Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace…. too proud to pray to the God that made us. “Mar 30,1863. When any Government insists “programs must be secular– ” then our Government is preparing the koolaid for national suicide. I don’t fault the social worker who represents HUD except in that he has put his job over and above mans duty to obey God. and in that If I were starving and cold I could not ask for a secular shelter.

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  • oceandove
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:05am

    Religious studies should never be mandatory.

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    • Eliasim
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:12am

      You’re right. The problem is that people have let the nation go too far unchecked, and now people are desperate to save the American way of life, when they should have been keeping watch for the last 100 years, and seeing the coming trauma to America. Now they are in desperation mode to make women see that they make or break a nation (and they do, and that’s how important they really are). Because women have the most important role in a family because they are the only ones who can raise the children to the dad, and even the dad can not.

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    • Twinspeedr
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:15am

      When you are providing a free service you can do anything you like. If the participants are not into it, they have the option to go elsewhere for their free stuff.

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    • Quagmir
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:17am

      They arent, they can choose not to accept the help that is being given to them. They can walk out the door.

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    • garyM
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:22am

      The regulations are only mandatory should the person decide to take advantage of the other benefits. You can give someone fish to eat but if they refuse fishing lessons while you are giving them fish to eat, you should give your extra fish to someone who will learn to catch their own fish! The Bible study is only mandatory for those who go through the program. Kind of like when you get your drivers license, you agree to go by traffic rules or you eventually lose your license. Kind of like when you join the Boy Scouts, you go through the Boy Scout training or you don’t stay in. OCEANDOVE can you not reason or are you just so full of the devil that you are against anything connected to God?

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:43am

      I’m not opposed to EVERYTHING connected to god. I’m just opposed to government monies (read: my tax payer dollars) going toward the work of god’s ministers. The 1st Amendment doesn’t permit the government to do that, and if the Constitution doesn’t permit the government to do a thing, then by definition, it is forbidden to do that thing.

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    • cavyR
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:49am

      Do ****** have hollow points?

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:57am

      The Government was right in withdrawing funding if this program is going to force women to to participate in their cult. This is nothing more than another cult, like Jones town seeking to brain wash the helpless.

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    • theshortender
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:03am

      Why??

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    • kmichaels
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:06am

      They are not. Nobody forces anybody to go to these locations.

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    • thekuligs
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:13am

      Lesbian Packing Hollow Points:

      The 1st Ammendement was designed to keep the goverment from taking over the church, not what you are claiming it does.

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    • kmichaels
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:14am

      [Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:43am
      I’m not opposed to EVERYTHING connected to god. I’m just opposed to government monies (read: my tax payer dollars) going toward the work of god’s ministers. The 1st Amendment doesn’t permit the government to do that,]

      Why are liberals such retards when it comes to actually reading the 1st Amendment. Nowhere does it prohibit such activity. Sersiously, do you liberal morons always sleep through school?

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:23am

      Why are liberals such retards when it comes to actually reading the 1st Amendment. Nowhere does it prohibit such activity. Sersiously, do you liberal morons always sleep through school?
      _________________________
      The establishment clause prevents the government from funding such brainwashing actions.

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    • Bud Myers
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:28am

      Who said it was mandatory to go to this particular place to get help? If the women who go there are forced to go there by someone, then you might have a point. If those women don’t want bible studies, then they can go somewhere else.

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    • LiberalMarine
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:44am

      It’s not that it is mandatory for someone to go there, if they are receiving government money they should not have mandatory bible studies. It’s actually really simple.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:59am

      The 1st Ammendement was designed to keep the goverment from taking over the church, not what you are claiming it does.

      Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibit the free exercise there of.
      The Constitution never said a state can‘t have an offical Religion it says CONGRESS can’t use it’s power to promote or obolish a religion. Seperation of CHURCH AND STATE doesn’t exist in the Constitution. Time for God’s children to rise up against secular demons and drive them back under the rock from which they came.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 12:32pm

      Smithclar,

      By the same logic, you have no federally protected right to free exercise either, not to mention free speech or free assembly, if a state wants to abridge these rights. All of these rights fall under the “Congress shall make no law…” clause.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 1:11pm

      Our Country was founded under the Constitution..under the laws of God the Father and His Son Yeshuah’s Laws.. if people raised their children in God fearing homes and under His laws..can you imagine the awesome people that we would have in this country? Twelve step program members enlist the help of God to eliminate their addictions…death row inmates find comfort when they find God in prison.. Eliminate God and you have high crime and a decadent lifestyle..Too bad for the ones who didn’t get a Christian upbringing and are turned out into lthe world defenseless. never having known love or the beauty of living their life in God’s graces with the prospect of life eternal..a place much better than here. As long as there is life. there is hope.. just believe that Jesus/Yeshua is the only begottten Son of God..that He died for your sins and the sins of the world. and that he rose the third day.. read the New Testament and obey God’s commands, repent,,(turn away form your sins) and ask forgiveness.. It is so worth it.

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 2:10pm

      ashestoashes
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 1:11pm
      Our Country was founded under the Constitution..under the laws of God the Father and His Son Yeshuah’s Laws..
      _________________________________
      God and his illegitimate son have nothing to do with the founding of ths nation. We are a secular nation founded on logic and reason, the principals of the Age of Enlightenment. The Founders wrote god out of the government, he has no role in our laws.

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    • smithclar3nc3
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 3:03pm

      By the same logic, you have no federally protected right to free exercise either, not to mention free speech or free assembly, if a state wants to abridge these rights. All of these rights fall under the “Congress shall make no law…” clause

      No even close just because a state declares an offical religion doesn’t make it my religion. That constitutional protected right however there’s nothing to stop a state government from believe in Christianity and to state as much by having the 10 commandments in the court house. Or offers bible studies in state run schools. If the people of the State disagree with that then they can voted on it. And create the state religious policies as they see fit. What you don’t do is use a one size fits all ruling from a court of life time appointed ideologs with agendas.
      The Constitution clearly Removes all issues of Religion out of the hands of the Federal Government and the tenth amendment clearly requires that all powers not given to Congress revert back to the States and the people.
      I say let the states and the people of the states do what the Constitution intended and live free from Government.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 3:14pm

      @ENCINOM..Actually..the men who wrote the Constitution were Christians..and they intended for this nation to be under the laws of God..Not everyone calling themselves a Christian..knows what it means to be one..but regardless..this countries laws were founded on the laws of the Bible. That is how we distinguish right from wrong..God’s laws are written upon the hearts of His children..but sadly not upon the ones who are not. The good news is that anyone can become His child…love to you Encinom.

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    • kmichaels
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 3:31pm

      [encinom
      The establishment clause prevents the government from funding such brainwashing actions.]

      The establishment clause prevents the government from funding any liberal action, anywhere. Just as valid of a claim as idiot Encinom’s claim above.

      Funny how these liberal dolts can’t actually explain how this clause comes into effect. They say that it does, but always fail if ever attempting to actually explain how. Heck, the wording is pretty clear and says nothing close to what the lying liberals think it says.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 3:32pm

      @ENCINOM I see what you were saying about they wrote God out of the Constitution.. Our forefathers escaped England to escape the tenacles of the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church..They did write the Constitution under the Laws of God..but the religions divided up into predominately Protestant religions ..To be a Christian ENCINOM means that you have accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior..confessing your sins only to Him..Invite Him to come and live in your heart..and you will be set free from sin and live life to a beautiful fullness. Knock and the door shall be opened., seek and you shall find…ask and it shall be given you…

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 3:57pm

      The first Amendment was against the Congress, our federal Government, from being the HEAD (Think Pope and Bishop) of any established Religion, e.g. Quakers, Methodist, Presbyterians, etc. The American People did not want the federal Government to adopt a REGULATED system of Religion like that of Great Britain’s Church of England wherein the Monarch was the HEAD (and overseer) of the Nation’s established and sanctioned CHURCH. The founders did not want the General government to regulate the activities and beliefs of THEIR CONGREGATIONS.

      The first Amendment NEVER was intended to prohibit or restrict Religious EXPRESSION in public or Government.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:04pm

      @encinom We are a Christian Nation.

      Washington’s 1789 Thanksgiving Day Proclamation:

      WHEREAS it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favour; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me “to recommend to the people of the United States a DAY OF PUBLICK THANSGIVING and PRAYER, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness:”

      Continued…

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:05pm

      …Continued.

      NOW THEREFORE, I do recommend and assign THURSDAY, the TWENTY-SIXTH DAY of NOVEMBER next, to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to their becoming a nation; for the signal and manifold mercies and the favorable interpositions of His providence in the course and conclusion of the late war; for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty which we have since enjoyed;– for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enable to establish Constitutions of government for our sasety and happiness, and particularly the national one now lately instituted;– for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge;– and, in general, for all the great and various favours which He has been pleased to confer upon us.

      And also, that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech Him to pardon our national and other transgressions;

      Continued…

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:05pm

      …Continued.

      – to enable us all, whether in publick or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually; to render our National Government a blessing to all the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed; to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us); and to bless them with good governments, peace, and concord; to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and us; and, generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.

      GIVEN under my hand, at the city of New-York, the third day of October, in the year of our Lord, one thousand seven hundred and eighty-nine.

      (signed) G. Washington

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:10pm

      @ENCINOM While encamped on the banks of a river, Washington was approached by Delaware Indian chiefs who desired that their youth be trained in American schools. In Washington’s response, he first told them that “Congress… will look on them as on their own children.” That is, we would train their children as if they were our own. He then commended the chiefs for their decision:

      “You do well to wish to learn our arts and our ways of life and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. These will make you a greater and happier people than you are. Congress will do everything they can to assist you in this wise intention.” [4]

      According to George Washington, what students would learn in American schools “above all” was “the religion of Jesus Christ.”

      [4] George Washington’s Speech to Delaware Indian Chiefs on May 12, 1779, in John C. Fitzpatrick, editor, The Writings of George Washington, Vol. XV (Washinton: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1932), p. 55.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:13pm

      @ENCINOM Washington’s 1796 Farewell Address, written by Alexander Hamilton and revised by himself.

      “Of all the dispositions and habits, which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of Men and Citizens. The mere Politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connexions with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked, Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice? And let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect, that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.It is substantially true, that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government. The rule, indeed, extends with more or less force to every species of free government. Who, that is a sincere friend to it, can look with indifference upon attempts to shake the foundation of the fabric?”

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:20pm

      @encinom March 6, 1776, General Washington issued at Cambridge the following order:

      “Thursday, the 7th instant, being set apart by the honorable the Legislature of this Province as a day of fasting, prayer, and humiliation, “to implore the Lord and Giver of all victory to pardon our manifold sins and wickedness, and that it would please Him to bless the Continental arms with His divine favor and protection,” all officers and soldiers are strictly enjoined to pay all due reverence and attention on that day to the sacred duties to the Lord of hosts for His mercies already received, and for those blessings which our holiness and uprightness of life can alone encourage us to hope through His mercy to obtain.”

      In 1854 the House Judiciary Committee said, “in this age, there is no substitute for Christianity…That was the religion of the founders of the republic, and they expected it to remain the religion of their descendants.”

      “Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged.” – Northwest Ordinance 1789

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  • aquablue
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:05am

    What if you needed to go to a Woman’s shelter and this was the only shelter around.and you weren’t a scripture reader?
    That would su@!

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    • oceandove
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:09am

      Exactly.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:14am

      Start your own secular shelter if you’re such a concerned citizen.

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    • CulperGang
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:15am

      I am sure you can sit it out….duh!!! you think those ladies will say, “Get the hell out??” these are Christians….THEY RESPECT YOUR WISHES unlike liberal dregs who want to tell everybody what to do and what not to do.
      This is a CHRISITAN country. Love it or leave it.

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    • JRook
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:19am

      This is the point of course. Only the individual can determine that evangelism is of any service or use to them. Helping them with conditions is actually more of a selfish act. Particularly the targeting of women who are down on their luck. Always a good target for the “true” followers.

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    • USAF_Vet
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:23am

      Then maybe you should examine your life and figure out that the ONLY way to escape the misery, squalor and pain of this life is by and through Jesus Christ.

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    • Fantastic Four
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:37am

      Your hate for the Bible and Christianity leads you to hate anyone making an effort to help those fellow Americans in need. Morality is almost dead and you ask yourself what has happened to our country? No moral from politicians no morals from Coprporations and no morals from men and no morals from women, so tell me how is this Nations youth gonna survive. Aquablue you may be a good person with a big heart and really want to help your fellow man without religion and thats OK too, but what happens after your gone? Kids that don’t have a moral guideline like some kids do today, what gonna stop them from killing, raping , murder and the list is endless. Now imagine these same kids without a moral compass take control of this Nation? Just so you know TYRANNY will know a new face of what man is really capable of.

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    • TheVoice1
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:39am

      religious studies should not be mandatory in religious shelters…. are you nuts!!!! These are gospel centers and the recovery is based on Biblical studies… dah…. the comments about it should never be used are coming from those that have never been there…

      Now these ladies can go occupy, do their drugs, enjoy the rapes, deaths and the streets that put them in Jail to begin with and go back down the tubes that will take them back to jail…. kissing their futures good bye once again. Thank God for shelters like this. Why don’t you atheists have any shelters out there? Cutting your nose off to spite your face… brilliant troll move. Stand Strong America

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    • TheVoice1
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:46am

      Fantastic Four

      Well said……

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    • momsense
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:22am

      Why are Libs so afraid of religion? They almost have spasms when religion is mentioned. Is it just because Comm unism is anti religion and that is their philosophy or does it truly terrify terrify them because it makes than aware of just how phony some of their beliefs are?

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    • Cerealface
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:55am

      I started a secular shelter, Turns out it was a polygamy camp

      A O! Lol.

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    • PubliusPencilman
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 12:36pm

      “Why are Libs so afraid of religion? They almost have spasms when religion is mentioned.”

      Way to miss the point! You see, you Blazers are so concerned about your tax dollars, yet people like you don’t seem to understand that someone like me does not want his/her tax dollars going towards propagating a religion that he/she does not believe in or support. Many here complain about their tax dollars going towards welfare, but you profess complete puzzlement over the fact that I don’t want MY tax dollars to go towards spreading YOUR gospel!

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    • RLTW
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 1:21pm

      The liberal attack on religion is equivalent to the destruction of modern man’s history, since Christianity has had such a hand in molding the morality, and foundation of this country.

      The mission of the left is to kill history, killing the Almighty is just the means to an end for them.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 2:42pm

      That woud be one of the best opportunities that you could ever have..and especially if you took advantage of it and advanced your mind and grew in spirit and came to know your Creator.

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    • kmichaels
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 3:57pm

      [aquablue
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:05am
      What if you needed to go to a Woman’s shelter and this was the only shelter around.and you weren’t a scripture reader?
      That would su@!]

      What if you were bleeding to death and the only hospital around was run by Catholics? I give, what if? How bad would that really be?

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 5:03pm

      @PubliusPencilman March 6, 1776, General Washington issued at Cambridge the following order:

      “Thursday, the 7th instant, being set apart by the honorable the Legislature of this Province as a day of fasting, prayer, and humiliation, “to implore the Lord and Giver of all victory to pardon our manifold sins and wickedness, and that it would please Him to bless the Continental arms with His divine favor and protection,” all officers and soldiers are strictly enjoined to pay all due reverence and attention on that day to the sacred duties to the Lord of hosts for His mercies already received, and for those blessings which our holiness and uprightness of life can alone encourage us to hope through His mercy to obtain.”

      “The General hopes and trusts that every officer and man will endeavor to live and act as becomes a Christian soldier defending the dearest rights and liberties of his country.” General Order, (9 July 1776) George Washington Papers at the Library of Congress, 1741-1799: Series 3g Varick Transcripts

      Thanks be to the Almighty God, our Creator and grantor of Life and Liberty, that OUR TAX DOLLARS were well spent to promote and advance moral virtues and great Christian principles while in the administration and leadership of our great President George Washington. Duty to God and Country at its best. So well, did the General set the righteous precedent in his Inauguration when taking his Constitutional Oath by stating, “So help me God”.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 5:19pm

      “Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government.” – James Madison

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  • garyM
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:05am

    I was ok with FAITH-BASED INITIATIVES under a real American president but we know you can’t have such a thing under a foreign president. Best thing to do is do away with any federal funding to any private or non-profit organization, including NPR radio. The church or any other Christian group should not put themselves under any government ruling. They knew when they accepted the money that it had strings attached, the church does not need any strings attached to anything but Jesus and His Word. Christians should always fund such things themselves so they don’t have to deal with ignorance!

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:23am

      agree but at the same time lets say there was a homosexual only shelter to help get you medical care and secular education and lobbying group for you to enter gay marraige while living at shelter, my tax dollars would be shelled out for it without my consent. the double standard I think is the biggest problem. our government gives huge amounts to those who wish to destroy whether it be foreign countries or commies here, yet tear down any Christian organization. It is sickening

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  • Rajabear1
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:01am

    This is the precise reason why charities and churches should never have taken any type of government benefits in the first place. They have become completely dependent on them. When I hear of churches being afraid to speak out for truth because they might loose their tax exempt status, I get so angry and wonder why the hell don’t they DROP the status and bite the bullet. Did they ever once think if they did, their congregation could grow because truth is being spoken? Because we have allowed our government to influence our charities and our churches with the tax codes, which in turn raises our personal taxes which we otherwise could give to causes of our choice, now they use it as a weapon to force these entities to submit to their agendas. End grants and tax breaks. We must start to bite the bullet ourselves and give to the causes we really believe in as individuals. We must be the ones to petition our places of worship and charities to stop any type of government support and use our own time to help increase their cash flow or it will never stop. Our messages will continue to be edited by the government.

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    • TheVoice1
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:43am

      God has already taken care of this non’sence
      Glen Beck just donated $55,000 to this Charity on his radio program – some talk the talk and others walk the walk. As well as many on the site here….. God Bless Glenn Beck and each and every one that answered this call.

      Stand Strong America

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  • CulperGang
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:59am

    That is not the FEDS $$$$$$ it is the TAXPAYERS. And WE SAY…it stays open!! The politicians in DC with their social engineering has got to go. Paul will downsize DC!!! that is what we need DC cut by 75%!!!! and a total tax of disbanding the IRS and the Federal Reserve. Paul will do that.

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    • RavenGlenn
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 5:14pm

      Actually, as a tax payer, I say no.

      I don’t want my tax dollars going to fun bible studies anymore than you would want your tax dollars going to fund Quran studies or Atheist studies(whatever those would be).

      An in reply to some others, rather than directly towards you:

      To anyone that says that it‘s a free service and if you don’t like it, don’t go…that’s not the point. It’s NOT a free service. Taxpayer dollars were funding it. Do you people not understand that? It’s no different than government healthcare. Oh it’s free!…well other than the billions of dollars of taxpayer money…

      /sigh

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  • hauschild
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:59am

    Yet if these shelters housed illegals, crack addicts or any other illegitimate persons, the funding would continue.

    Another classic from the dumbfounded left.

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:57am

    Just another reason for STATES to keep their own TAX DOLLARS. WHY should the Feds dole it out to organizations THEY approve of? It’s freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. WE SHOULD CHOSE WHERE WE SPEND OUR OWN MONEY! IF a Christian shelter in my STATE needs some support from tax dollars and they take the BURDEN off of our WELFARE system then that’s a GOOD thing. BUTT OUT FEDS…..

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:02am

      there is also a lause in the First Amendment that prevents the government from supporting any religion. Tax dollars going to brainwashing the women with manditory bible classes is a violation of the establishment clause

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    • Constitutional Cowboy
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:19am

      @encinom Your athiest bias and total ignorance are showing thru. Well done!!!

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    • TheVoice1
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:26am

      encinom

      another blithering idiot….and it says in the constitution…. read it actually read it troll dip….

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    • kmichaels
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:06pm

      [encinom
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:02am
      there is also a lause in the First Amendment that prevents the government from supporting any religion.]

      There is also a clause in the First Amendment that says people can be arrested for being gay and liberal. This is a hard one though, because it is unclear if you can be gay and conservative. We’ve got our crack liberal team working on it, trying to decode it.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 5:09pm

      @encinom OUR TAX DOLLARS at work during the founding of this Christian Nation.

      “The Hon. Continental Congress having been pleased to allow a Chaplain to each Regiment, with the pay of Thirty-three Dollars and one third pr month — The Colonels or commanding officers of each regiment are directed to procure Chaplains accordingly; persons of good Characters and exemplary lives — To see that all inferior officers and soldiers pay them a suitable respect and attend carefully upon religious exercises. The blessing and protection of Heaven are at all times necessary but especially so in times of public distress and danger — The General hopes and trusts, that every officer and man, will endeavour so to live, and act, as becomes a Christian Soldier defending the dearest Rights and Liberties of his country.” – General Orders, (July 9, 1776) George Washington Papers at the Library of Congress, 1741-1799: Series 3g Varick Transcripts

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 5:10pm

      @encinom

      “The Commander in Chief directs that divine Service be performed every Sunday at 11 oClock in those Brigades to which there are Chaplains; those which have none to attend the places of worship nearest to them. It is expected that Officers of all Ranks will by their attendence set an Example to their men. While we are zealously performing the duties of good Citizens and soldiers we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of Religion. To the distinguished Character of Patriot, it should be our highest Glory to add the more distinguished Character of Christian. The signal Instances of providential Goodness which we have experienced and which have now almost crowned our labours with complete Success, demand from us in a peculiar manner the warmest returns of Gratitude and Piety to the Supreme Author of all Good.” – General Orders (May 2, 1778); published in Writings of George Washington (1932), Vol.XI, pp. 342-343

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 5:11pm

      @encinom Our CONGRESS at work with out tax dollars during the early years of this Christian Nation.

      “My ears hear with pleasure the other matters you mention. Congress will be glad to hear them too. You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. These will make you a greater and happier people than you are. Congress will do every thing they can to assist you in this wise intention; and to tie the knot of friendship and union so fast, that nothing shall ever be able to loose it.” – George Washington speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs (May 12, 1779); published in The Writings of George Washington (1932), Vol.XV, p. 55

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 5:18pm

      *Our CONGRESS at work with OUR tax dollars during the early years of this Christian Nation.

      Notice how these same founding fathers and early American Citizens elected to Office were NOT violating the First Amendment. Religious Liberty and Expression in Public and Government was favored and encouraged. I think they understood best the meaning and intentions of our Bill of Rights.

      “Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government.” – James Madison

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  • Nancy in VA
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:57am

    I’ve sent them a donation too! I agree let’s step up to the plate and show our support for the stand this shelter has taken to KEEP the BIBLE STUDIES!!!!!!!!!!

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  • xabw468
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:57am

    see

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  • JLGunner
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:55am

    Whats happened to my country……

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  • Kitsune
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:54am

    They‘d get extra funding for mandatory Qu’ran studies, though!

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  • cemerius
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:53am

    What about Bible studies in prisons? Need to keep those souls from being saved too! Go forth demons in athiest’s clothing and reap your magic!!! Revelations seem more and more a reality as the days pass…….

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  • LibertyGoddess
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:52am

    Well said 13th Imam, well said.

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  • Living2Bworthy
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:51am

    I pray that brothers and sisters in Christ step up and send as much as each can. Let the world know that as these women stand up for Christ, God will replace the HUD money they lost 100-fold.

    I am inspired by their conviction. May Christ have the Glory!

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    • David11
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:54am

      Get a life and put the book down already

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    • TheVoice1
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:21am

      Living2Bworthy
      Well said… we picked up the book and really have a life… unlike the little troll david11 attempting to spew his troll’oligy
      Stand Strong America

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  • Hephzibah
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:46am

    “The Gospel Shelter for Women Centers”–Doesn’t that imply there will be something included about the Bible? This is ridiculous. I know, let’s go to “The Smoking Room” and then sue because they are smoking in there. Oh, wait, I forgot…they’ve already done that. Next are they going to be trying to close down churches because the Bible is taught? Yes.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:44am

    Here is a link to her site: http://www.gospel-home-cs.org/
    The Christian community should step up to the plate and make up the difference.
    I have sent $20 to her through her web site. Step up to the plate Blazers and support a woamna who chose The Gospel over money! Lets hit them with a money BOMB!

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    • CulperGang
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:10am

      I bomb DC with my tax $$$$$ through no choice of my own. I want them to use it prudently NOT on harassing US citizens! So now you want me to send money to fight against DC??? Hell NO! Fight DC instead by REMOVING and DOWSIZING DC. All you conservatives sit on your butts and whine and allow this “Abomination” in DC to exist as opposed to taking to the street. At least those so called “losers of the OW…were out there” letting DC know that 99% is not happy with the 1% and changes have to be made or “THEY WILL TEAR THE MOTHER DOWN.” You people just sit and while while DC gives it to you, up the pooper shooter.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:16am

      Read much? I don’t want you to send money to fight D.C. I want you to send money to this shelter to spread the Gospel. If you don’t want to, then don’t.

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  • Tea Party Animal
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:38am

    I’m sending them a donation today. Let’s show that when you stand up for what is RIGHT, God will provide. Who needs federal money anyway?

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:46am

      Ditto here. They are trying to do the best for their community; and as usual the Fed’s are cracking down more and more on religious groups and events.

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    • Living2Bworthy
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:48am

      Ditto … I pray as many who hear this story contribute as much as they can … let the world see that when we choose Christ over money, God provides abundantly ! May the ladies get so many donations that it dwarfs the HUD money they were getting.

      I am inspired by their conviction!

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    • David11
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:56am

      I to agree with you, we absolutely need to shut these shelters down. Shelters like this are really harming people by taking them away from reality.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:13am

      Already did! I can’t wait to see the follow up story where she trippled the money lost from the Feds in one day!

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    • CulperGang
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:13am

      Federal $$$$$$$$$$$$$ is YOUR $$$$$$$$$$$$$…..oy vey.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 10:20am

      Read the story CulperGang, you obviously haven’t yet.

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    • TheVoice1
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:02am

      David11
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:56am

      I to agree with you, we absolutely need to shut these shelters down. Shelters like this are really harming people by taking them away from reality.
      __________________

      Harming them by taking them away from reality!!!!!! Each of them shared their reality on the clip of drugs, abuse, jail…and these shelters are taking them away from that and you say it is harming them!!!! Blithering idiot… I am sure you have “experience” in helping people to stay in that reality…..

      Why don’t you put up your own “cling to your reality idiot” shelter and let us know what the results are there….. oh yeah you are right there are several of these already in operation, they are called crack houses…. Oh nurse…oh nurse… David11 needs his meds now….. lol

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  • commie_LOVER
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:38am

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

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    • your sensei
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:21am

      Nobody’s prohibiting their ability to study the Bible. they just don’t get federal money if they do it. Their choice. I’m sure the righteous among us will step up and save this facility, unless you’ve already sent all your money to the serial sexual harasser we all love and know as Herb Cain. If so, well, I guess the women will just have to suffer in silence.

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    • kmichaels
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:17pm

      [your senseless liberal troll
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:21am
      Nobody’s prohibiting their ability to study the Bible. they just don’t get federal money if they do it. Their choice. I’m sure the righteous among us will step up and save this facility, unless you’ve already sent all your money to the serial sexual harasser we all love and know as Bill Clinton. If so, well, I guess the women will just have to suffer in silence.]

      Why don’t they get federal money is the debate, you dimwitted troll.

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    • your sensei
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 8:25pm

      Kmichaels . . It’s self evident, and in your case self-defeating . . . it’s the law. That’s the “why” you so desperately seek. Now that you know, you got three choices . . . obey it, change it or ignore it. We know the shelter’s choice. And the consequence. Self evident.

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  • MarketsClear
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:36am

    Good, the constitution doesn’t allow for federal funding to be given to them in the first place, and absolutely not to promote a religious agenda. Charity should be voluntary. Not forcibly redistributed through taxation.

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    • Dahart
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:45am

      Agreed!

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    • kmichaels
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:12am

      You are a moron. Either that or a liar. Or both. Show me where in the constitution that it prohibits giving money to them, any more than it prohibits giving money to anybody.

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    • faires
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:42am

      Market clear___how ironic, the Feds won’t support and pull monies for a private shelter promoting bible study thats also providing food and shelter__But they sure as hell support abortion clinics __don’t they??__Idiots!

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  • capitalismrocks
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:34am

    Interesting how there was no hesitation for pulling federal funding for bible study, but you couldn’t stop federal funding for planned parenthood no matter what, how ironic!

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    • JRook
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:39am

      “They wanted me to get some of the Christianity out of the program, and we just couldn’t do that,”
      You missed the point one empowers women to make their own reproductive choices. In this case it is about the bible studies being mandatory. Helping the women should be their first priority, not evangelism.

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    • David11
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:57am

      Planned Parenthood is much more important than this to the general public.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:07am

      It’s much more important to fund the genocide being committed against black unborn babies, if you’re the Federal government.

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  • 13th Imam
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:31am

    Just tell Barry and his merry band of DEMOCRAT Thieves that these women are assembling solar panels, at twice the cost of China’s (GE). Tell Barry that after the likes of John Corzine get their 453 million dollar cut, that half will be donated to Barry’s “Screw American Taxpayers(The 53%) Four More Years” reelection tour. Then roll out Barry’s prayer rug and place his koran on it.

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    • LibertyGoddess
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:53am

      Well said, 13th Imam, well said.

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    • David11
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:58am

      This was actually George Bush’s idea but never implemented during his term. If you do some research you will find that several republicans have pushed for this.

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    • TheVoice1
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:39am

      David11

      “It was Bush’s fault” ha ha ha….whew son! Your troll ass is hanging in the wind…. lol ha ha oh man is this rich!!!! Bush enacted faith based initiatives …. “It was Bush’s fault” lol we have ourselves a demorat garbage spewing troll off his meds folks …..

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  • Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:30am

    God forbid these women be given any hope…

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    • V-MAN MACE
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:35am

      I worship Yeshua Ha Moshiach.

      Stop proselytizing these women just because they’re needy. Stop taking advantage of their situation to advance your religious goals.

      Foul.

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    • encinom
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:03am

      The issue is that the women have their chioce to remove, they were forced to be brainwashed with the Bible BS.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on November 14, 2011 at 4:31pm

      I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. II Timothy 4:1-5

      And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good? But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled; But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing. I Peter 3:13-17

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  • Grasshopper42
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:29am

    Jehovah Jireh

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  • lukerw
    Posted on November 14, 2011 at 9:23am

    Step up Colorado… what do you guys believe in?

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