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Colorado Tour Bus Crash Seriously Injures Eight From Church Group

GUNNISON, Colo. (AP) — Authorities say a tour bus has crashed on an icy central Colorado highway and eight people are seriously injured.

The Colorado State Patrol says the accident occurred about 8:20 p.m. MST Saturday on Highway 114 near Gunnison.

The patrol says the bus operated by Gotta Go Express Trail Ways was carrying 46 people when it veered off an icy snowpacked roadway and rolled onto its side.

Eight people were rushed by ambulance to a Gunnison hospital with serious injuries. The patrol says many of the other 38 people aboard had minor injuries and they were taken to the hospital by a school bus.

The tour bus was carrying a church group from Denton, Texas, to the town of Crested Butte.

No other details were immediately available.

Comments (73)

  • One_NationUnderGod
    Posted on December 20, 2010 at 1:16am

    And reading some of these comments, I would hope that the people who claim to know the same God as I, in speaking to a person who doesn’t know Him, would realize that their words, like their actions, need to be always in LOVE. Though I disagree with his view on many things, Beckisnuts has showed more intelligence and levelheadedness with his words, while the rest simply use obscenities and nonsense to make their “point”. How do we expect to be listened to, among our peers, friends, or neighbors, and taken seriously, if our language is filled, not with the truth, but with base, useless words?

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  • One_NationUnderGod
    Posted on December 20, 2010 at 12:51am

    Beckisnuts, God created the reality you live in. He has no need to prove Himself to you, as the proof for His existence is all around you. May your search for the truth, with an honest heart, lead you to Him.

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  • orchardgal
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 9:07pm

    Noticing the comments above, I would like to remind all Christians of what I was taught by my pastor in confirmation many years ago and which I have never forgotten. “Along side the church, the devil always has his chapel”

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  • SlimnRanger
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 2:10pm

    Beckisnuts i am not going to throw stones at you,you sir do have the right to your own opinion,if you don’t believe in God thats your right,but young man i promise you one day you will believe,I had a good time in Church today I for one need God in my life i pray daily for my family, my friends for this nation and for myself I am not perfect and Lord knows i am not,but if we look around we all can find fault with others if we choose to,so with that said Beckisnuts i just ask you to read the Bible attend a sprit filled Church where the true word of God is preached that jesus Christ is Lord and no matter how mad at God you may be ,I can assure you God is will to forgive you and wrap his tender arms of Mercy around you, let us that believe in God contiune to pray and worship him and you can live the life that you choose,Merry Christmas Mr Beckisnuts,I don’t hate you

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 6:39pm

      Slimranger, thanks for your last sentence. The rest is rambling and condenscending however. I supported Barry Goldwater for President when you may well have been in short pants, so it‘s safe to say I’m no young man. If your beliefs in spiritualism helps you make it through the day, that’s your business. Please don’t try to drag me into your dream world though. It‘s only human to feel more confident in one’s delusions if one believes everyone else is similarily stricken, but I’ll remain happily living in reality. There’s so much to love about life and science continues to make new discoveries which keep me on the edge of my seat. I really don’t feel the need to immerse myself in the explanations for the world created by other primates that died thousands of years ago. Thanks all the same and have a Merry Christmas as well.

      BTW, if you get a chance, do take a look at the developments underway in Cern, Switzerland at the LHC. Fascinating stuff.

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    • im4truth
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 7:24pm

      I appreciate your kind statement.
      It is a good example for the rest of us.
      Merry Christmas Slimnranger.

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  • 60yroldfemale
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:43pm

    Some of you may remember a spectacular, fiery crash a gasoline truck that badly damaged the interstate at the Golden Gate Bridge in 2007.
    Since there had been warnings about terrorists targeting bridges and using trucks as WMDs, I got curious and did a little looking.
    that same weekend (I think 29 April) there were four similar crashes involving gas trucks driving too fast and turning over and burning interstate highways. One in TX, FL, and I think PA, hard to remember the details.
    With the mind of an artist I notice patterns. It makes one wonder.

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  • TruthTalker
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:14pm

    Dear Lord, please forgive BECKISNUTS. He knows not what he does.

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 6:20pm

      You’re talking to an invisible entity that no one has seen hide nor hair of for thousands of years and you say I “know not” what I do? That’s enough to make a cat laugh.

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    • im4truth
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 7:15pm

      Beckisnuts,
      People like you always intrigue me.

      I suppose it‘s because I can’t really tell if you actually believe the things you say, or if maybe you‘re just looking for an answer about God that you’ve never heard before.

      You’re comments are somewhat conflicting, from my perspective.

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  • FANGS
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 12:52pm

    60yroldfemale, I‘m glad to see you’re thinking out of the box. You are Right. With the southern border tunnels wide open because of obama. America likely has thousands of terrorists living here.Please dont hide, We’ll need you and your gun when the —-hits the fan. Merry Christmas.

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  • 60yroldfemale
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 12:41pm

    Am I the only one who notices that there have been a lot of bus crashes involving church groups. Chartered bus lines. I hope that
    groups who will be traveling on chartered buses are vetting the drivers.
    It would be easy for someone who wishes evil intent to turn a bus into a suicide act.
    Don’t accept drivers without some kind of profiling. Just do some reading about the fate of Christians in Islamic countries. this is a dangerous world we live in and we can’t go around with blinders on.
    I now will hide from the incoming.

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 12:47pm

      60yroldfem, you’ve made an interesting point and it seems to me to be worth delving into. Thanks for sharing your comments.

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    • missionarydad
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:11pm

      60yroldfemale, I do think that you have a valid point. In today’s post 911 world we do need to be vigilant and always watching our backs. I think that the sheer number of church group bus accidents for the most part happen because there are so many of good Christian Americans out doing the work of the Lord that just by the great numbers that are on the road traveling to do Heavenly Fathers work that there are going to be a lot of accidents. I appreciate your prospective because some of them may have very well been intentional. With the extent that these Muslim extremists will go to kill Americans we should not rule anything out. You have certainly gained a lot of insight and wisdom in your 60 years. God Bless the families and those who were aboard that bus may they recover quickly and be richly blessed for the good works they did and intended to do with the trip they were on that ended so tragically, but praise be to Our Heavenly Father as it could have been much worse.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:21pm

      I’ve noticed the bus accidents of church groups for years and have pondered on what it means. Maybe the group hires the cheapest bus, with lowest paid driver? Who knows? Go Greyhound.

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    • frgough
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 10:39am

      Perhaps that is because most people chartering buses are church groups. Correlation vs. causation.

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  • thomas
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 12:18pm

    Jesus uses different people in different ways. All of your comments are of interest. Anyone who is willing to forgive someone else for doing them wrong is following the ways of Jesus. When accidents happen, Jesus is watching, where these people traveling somewhere to spread word of the love of Jesus? If they were not, were they on a mission from Jesus or not?

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  • zman173rd
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 11:44am

    Born and rasied in Colorado, I traveled from Montrose to Gunnisson all the time. My second favorite fishing spot was Spring Creek up by the Crested Butte turnoff. Hiway 114 is the pass from Saguache to Gunnison comming from the south and it could get tricky in winter. But YESSsssss. We all loved the Texans. Bought our land and treated us like hired help. Till the Californians started showing up. Then the Texans weren’t so bad afterall.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:09pm

      Zman, you’re right about that. I have ties to Texas & California and believe me Colorado people hate
      both places. Why? Have never been able to figure it out. Funny how most obituaries I read, the people either came from Texas or have relatives in Texas, so go figure. I’ve lived in Colorado many years and have always resented how hateful they treat Texans, and in last 30 years the Californians. The Calif.’s came here in masses in mid-80′s to buy up cheap houses when we went broke with oil shale. But, I digress, let’s be kinder to those who were injured, 114 can be a bad road.

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  • mtnclimberjim
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 11:38am

    Dear BECKISNUTS
    Your addiction to pornography is affecting your life and others in a negative way, please pray with your wife and beg the Lords mercy.
    Merry Christmas

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 12:45pm

      Your comments illustrate who you are as an individual and have no effect on me o any kind. Well, yes they do in a small way. I feel pity for you. Off you go.

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  • zman173rd
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 11:29am

    @ beckisnuts. There is no God? That’s why we all die someday? That’s why there is war? C’mon, you can do better than that. Anything gets you going that isn’t part of your agenda. Why are people in inner cities going hungry if folks like you can and should completly supportthem ? Why does Oprah make millions and only give away to her audience and live in $40 mil mansions? Why is the sun still shining down on your sorry cybaby a$$? Only God knows.

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 12:43pm

      zman, your post made no sense at all. I can’t even give you a nice try.

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    • zman173rd
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 11:46am

      Fist off don’t B.S us here, We KNOW you’re no conservative. That‘s why you don’t undrerstand the simple things in life. shut the pie holeand think about how your own ilk complain about how the rich don’t give enough. I hear about all those rich dems hwo say they wouldn’t mind paying more taxes. Well what’s stopping you?! The government will take ANYTHING you want to contribute. there is no law that prevent you, the Gorical, or any other rich person from “donating’ whatever tey want to the cause to better the downtrodden. Problem is they’ll run out of money and will be at the feed troughs just like all the other lazy bastards. for GOD, you’re a nonbiliever, you t put God as a distractin for everything else you believe in. So whebn you say God didn’t save the bus form turning over, well now, it‘s God’s fault. Pathetic bait and switch. But others are right about you: “move along move along. there’s nothing to see here.”

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  • Bad Thunder
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:54am

    BECKISNUTS is nuts…………the devil made me say it

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  • mtnclimberjim
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:02am

    When I lived in CO, we would always give TX drivers a wide safety zone. They drive like idiots. Now I’ll be chewed out from Texans, but sorry just stating the facts that I have seen for myself. Hope everyone heals. Prayers.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:28am

      I agree. When our son was in school in a remote part of TX we drove out to visit on several occaisions. I think because TX is flat for the most part, and wide open, drivers are used to “bookin” because no matter how fast I drove someone passed me. Prayers go out for a speedy recovery for all.

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    • SlimnRanger
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:55pm

      lol to funny Mtnclimber i am in okla. and as much as i love texas and Texans they do drive liek idiots well maybe not all of them but they are use to driving faster in Texas and it’s just habbit forming to drive faster elsewhere until a highway patrol pulls them over, but i guess i shouldn‘t have used the word idiot i reckon that wasn’t nice i am sorry Texas

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  • BeckIsNuts
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:01am

    Why did God allow a church bus to crash?

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    • PA PATRIOT
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:16am

      God did not allow it, he kept all of them from being killed.

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:36am

      You fundamentalists are a slippery lot. It’s amusing to see you only interpret the world through your superstitious beliefs. How convenient that is. God gets the credit the credit when things go your way, but when they don’t, he gets off scott free every time. Very amusing. And delusional as well. BTW, shouldn’t you be at church this morning?

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    • PA PATRIOT
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:39am

      You will meet God.

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    • Rogue
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 11:07am

      @Beck – you call out Kate above for he comment, then when posting your own view this is what you come up with? Its easy to see exacyly who the hateful hypocrit is. Calling people out for not being Christian-like, yet insulting all Christians based on your percieved stereotype of them? You sir, are a tool.

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 11:18am

      Why did God give you a mouth? Was it so you could be an annoying little troll/progressive who can demonstrate his absolute lack of intelligence? It appears so!

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    • ZOMBIE JESUS LOVES ME
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 11:46am

      If you meet God, BECKISNUTS, just say…

      Wow. I see that are real. I am sorry, but living within the insane, evil, often corrupt, minutia filled world blinded me to your actually existence. Now I see.

      So, I believe in you God. May I now go to heaven and spend eternity with you?

      No? Hell you say?

      Not very merciful are you, *****?

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    • PA PATRIOT
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 12:04pm

      @ ZOMBIE JESUS LOVES ME
      The question is not if, It is when?

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 12:35pm

      PAPATRIOT, don’t be so arrogant as to speak for your supreme being. You remind me of Glenn Beck when you do that. Enjoy your fantasy world. I’ll enjoy reality.

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:08pm

      Man, I sure could fertilize alot of garden with the crap you athiests spew. You know that if you are right then when you die you get nothing, no heaven, no hell, nothing. This probably has alot to do with your nasty demeanor, since you have nothing to look forward to but rotting in the ground. That would be enough to sour anyone. Christians on the other hand can look forward to eternity in peace and happiness with their divine Father in Heaven. I understand why you are bitter, I don’t understand why you insist everyone else live in misery with you. Misery loves company I guess. Merry Christmas and God bless (even if you don’t want it).

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    • PA PATRIOT
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:37pm

      I am confident that you will understand when the time arrives.
      I have witnessed the presence of God many times in my life.
      Say what you want, I am at peace.

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    • NeoFan
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:39pm

      @LickingBecksNuts Why did god allow pedophiles and people like you to be born and not aborted?
      I guess the righteous need evil to challenge them and test them.

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 3:34pm

      Thank you neofan. You’ve just illustrated how vile and ignorant you are.

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 3:38pm

      My goodeness. All of these “pious” souls here spewing unholy venom because the don‘t agree with another’s perspective. Interesting.

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    • PA PATRIOT
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 4:08pm

      @Beckisnuts
      “Unholy venom” I said only, that I was at peace with my relationship with God and that sometime in our lives we will all meet God. Sounds harmless to me. Perhaps it is someone else you may be referring to. Perhaps it is you? Enjoying reality?

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 6:41pm

      PAPAT – you get a pass on the venom naturally. And reality never disappoints. You should try it.

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    • im4truth
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 7:01pm

      Why do we always ask that question?

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    • frgough
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 10:35am

      So, you set up an ethical case in a situation where death is the end of existence. You then impose that case in a situation where death is simply a change in state. Then, ignoring the fact that your ethical situation is now completely meaningless, you declare God to be an unethical being. This is the level of critical thinking common among atheists.

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  • Taquoshi
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 9:49am

    All those involved and their families are in my prayers.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:23am

      Agreed. Sad to have these events happen anytime, but especially during the holidays. Prayers go out to all.

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    • im4truth
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 7:00pm

      Amen.

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    • missionarydad
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:48pm

      Kate, I was not in any way cutting them any slack for their actions I was more showing what a monster their leader is and that those under Phelps were abused terribly and beaten into submission. There was only one incident where he was beaten 300 times with an axe handle like stick but he was pretty much beaten daily, he was a very tough kid and extremely strong willed and what I was pointing out and probably need to clarify is that while I do not excuse hence my words they are despicable people, Fred Phelps made them that way and what a sorry excuse of a human being he is if you or I had been brainwashed and by misfortune had one of the most evilest people on the planet as our father who daily preached that kind of hate we probably would need some serious intervention to get our heads on straight and not turn out like him. Just like Barack Obama who was raised and surrounded by people with such extreme political views and I as much as I dislike our President as president I can understand how he turned out the way he did. I do not excuse his actions and I strongly disagree with him.

      I also vehemently disagree with WBC but Fred Phelps molded them to be who they are. Just like those Muslim extremist take young boys and turn them into suicide bombers, individually they are very accountable for what they do before God but I will tell you Fred Phelps is 100 times more responsible for what is going on than they are just like those terrorist leaders are every bit as guilty as those suicide bombers and Charles Manson carried a much higher degree of guilt than those who carried out the murders. The reason I thought it was over the line what you said is those WBC idiots are so brainwashed they are to be pitied as they are so pitiful. I may be wrong but they are so hateful and despicable sorry excuses for human beings that I actually feel sorry for them but Fred Phelps deserves a lot worse than being on a crashed bus he should be beaten and humiliated like he did those kids.

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  • untameable-kate
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 9:48am

    Too bad the church members were not from the WBC. I hope everyone is alright.

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:03am

      Not a very Christian comment to make is it?

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    • PatriotsCause
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:03am

      The group from WBC were to have been in a small town in Alabama yesterday (18 Dec) to protest at the funeral of US Army Staff Sgt. Stacy A. Green who died Dec. 10 while conducting combat operations in Afghanistan but thankfully they never showed up.

      http://www2.oanow.com/news/2010/dec/18/westboro-baptist-church-no-show-military-funeral-ar-1239911/

      Our thoughts and prayers out to those from this wreck, may the see a quick recovery.

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    • PatriotsCause
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:20am

      Correction, that should be US Marine Staff Sgt. Stacy A. Green. My apologies.

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:21am

      BeckIsNuts
      Nope it sure wasn’t, but those animals don’t inspire much Christian charity out of me. Not much of your business anyways whether I’m being very Christian or not, that is between me and my Lord.

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:40am

      Oh but it is my business untameable kate. You made your hate-filled comment in a public forum and it’s my right and duty to point out what a hypocrit you are. Obviously your faith doesn’t run as deeply as you think it does.

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 10:57am

      Hate filled?? Nobody got killed and I said I hope everyone is OK, so if you call that hate filled I’m not sure where you stand. You and your leftie buddies spew nothing but hate and lies so seems like the pot calling the kettle black. You have no ground to comment on another persons faith, you are just trying to dig at me and guess what?? You just give me something to do for a couple of minutes. Kind of like picking up dog poop in the back yard.

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    • PA PATRIOT
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 11:07am

      @Untimeable-Kate,
      Awesome, comeback!
      Arlen Specter, “Act like a lady” NOT !!!
      Beckisnuts Let us hear you now!

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 11:16am

      I was in that snow storm yesterday…nasty one, had to chain up going across the Rockies. Glad nobody was killed.

      As for the Westboro Bastards, I’m not a christian…I would have much preferred it was them, and the bus had rolled down the mountainside!

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    • missionarydad
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 12:28pm

      That is way over the line. I find the Westboro Church very very despicable but I put most of the blame right at the feet of Fred Phelps and he will get his on Judgement day for sure.

      I recently read some of the history of that Westboro Church as I could not begin to understand how a family cult group could be so centered in hate as many of them look like all American youth other than what they do and are actually very accomplished, and my conclusion from all the research I done is that Fred Phelps is such a controlling Monster that his children have been completely brainwashed and totally used and groomed by him. He had a son Nate who saw through his deceit and manipulation from an early age and was beat so badly on a daily basis sometimes with over 300 strokes with an axe handle as hard as his that old devil could swing it. He had enough of a will that he left on 12:01am on his 18th Birthday never to return. The rest are so under this guys control that they either cannot muster the courage to leave or have been so brainwashed into this since childbirth. The local authorities tried to intervene and put him away for Child torture but this guy is like the #1 trouble maker in the U.S. and the authorities backed down from prosecuting him concluding he would cause them so much trouble they were scared of him. I am not excusing their despicable behavior in anyway but Fred Phelps deserves most all of the blame for what they do as he has made the others into the despicable people they are. It is a very tragic story and only the very strongest Nate and one other brother have left that I saw, and Nate is physically damaged for life because he always tried to stand up to him and had a childhood of hell beyond description.

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 12:40pm

      Missionarydad, I find the WBC just another example of the insane evil that is done by people who feel they have the backing of god. This is what concerns me about Beck. He’s already sending messages of impending armageddon out over the air waves. As a conservative, I agree with some of his political views, but overall he’s having a very negative effect on people in this country.

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    • independentvoteril
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:22pm

      BeckIsNuts… Do we watch the SAME Glenn Beck??? I THOUGHT conservatives where much smarter than to think that Glenn was promoting a impending Armageddon..What Glenn does is show you how for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.. something our POLITICIANS haven’t figured out yet..while EVERYTHING he is saying will not come to pass he IS pointing out what COULD.. and it’s NOT Armageddon.. I would be MORE worried about those currently in power and what they KNOW and won’t tell the people so people can prepare.. I use to drive my husband nuts with my need to stock up on things like food.. HOWEVER.. to many people where he works have been telling him the same thing.. NOW he thinks I smart..LOL.. right down to the fact we have pilots on our range just in case the electric goes out WE can still cook and by cutting off the rest of the house KEEP WARM..

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:28pm

      Interesting story on the WBC group. Understandable how the group listens to the “leader” kinda like the many others who were and are brainwashed thinking they are following God. If they wise up, they would know the difference and the warnings given in the bible about “who” to follow. I think of Jim Jones, and the Latter day saints, who marry their young to old men and have multiple wives. Sick!

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:33pm

      Missionarydad, We are all responsible for our own actions. I have seen these ‘people’ shout filthy hate filled slogans at the funerals of our fallen sons and I can’t cut them any slack. You want to blame their leader, but could YOU have been led to commit these acts? There is something deeply flawed with these monsters, before they come in contact with this hate-monger, before he begins directing their hate. Over the line you say, maybe, but I’ll stand by it.

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    • squeaker
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 1:57pm

      Missionarydad “”beat so badly on a daily basis sometimes with over 300 strokes with an axe handle as hard as his that old devil could swing it.”"

      Really…??? —- 300 strokes… Daily… As HARD as he could swing it……????? ——
      … I would seriously question what I was reading with this kind of statement…!

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 2:09pm

      Squeeker, Good point. I would think a couple of hits “as hard as his that old devil could swing it” would have hospitalized a kid.

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    • Sledgehammer
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 2:19pm

      To: Kate give them hell, Kate!
      To Beckisnuts: I freely admit I’m a flawed man, my question to is not who you think you are? Rather, What is it you want? Use small words and keep it short, if you can help yourself.

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    • squeaker
      Posted on December 19, 2010 at 2:54pm

      UNTAMEABLE-KATE “”"Too bad the church members were not from the WBC.”"”

      The mortal side of me says: “Right On Kate…. I’m with ya on this” —-
      The Christian side of me says: “Right On Kate…. I’m with ya on this too…” —– The WBC is pure evil… but you say, How Un-Christian of me to say this….. Well, I don’t wish well on Satan or ask for his salvation or forgiveness from GOD either……… The WBC folks are just EVIL and I don’t wish them well…they are akin to terrorists….. That’s just my opinion.

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 12:00pm

      simple sledgehammer. I would like people to think for themselves rather than accept what others spoon feed them.

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 20, 2010 at 12:08pm

      frgough, congratulations. You have succeeded in torturing language and logic in just 4 sentences. The only part of a person that survives death is its DNA. And that’s only if you had children. That is scientific fact. Any conjecture beyond that is superstition. Facts are facts.

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  • BeckIsNuts
    Posted on December 19, 2010 at 6:22pm

    That’s a rather bad sugesstion akmikeus. I’m not of the liberal persuasion.

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