Conference of Mayors, Representing 1,295 U.S. Cities, Calls for Stricter Gun Laws Following Sikh Temple Shooting
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Following Sunday’s horrific shooting at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin, Michael Nutter, Philadelphia mayor and president of the U.S. Conference of Mayors, released a statement Monday and argued the tragedy signaled the need for stricter gun laws in the U.S. that would help “prevent senseless tragedies.”
The U.S. Conference of Mayors is the official “nonpartisan” organization of cities with populations greater than 30,000. There are currently 1,295 cities in the organization and each one is represented by its mayor.
It is unclear whether Nutter reached out to other mayors in the U.S. Conference of Mayors before calling for gun control on behalf of the entire organization. However, according to its website, the group has generally supported stricter gun regulations.
The Philadelphia mayor released the following statement:
“Once again our attention is focused on an inexplicable act of violence by a gunman who has killed at least six people and injured several more, including a police officer.”
“The nation’s mayors express their outrage at yet another mass shooting and send their condolences to the victims, their families, and their community. Oak Creek Mayor Steve Scaffidi is in our thoughts and prayers today as he helps his city cope with this tragedy.”
“This shooting occurred as people prepared for a morning worship service in the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek. While we don‘t yet have information about the shooter’s motives, the weapons used, or how he obtained them, we do know that once again guns have been used in a mass killing of innocent people.”
“Just 17 days have passed since the tragic shooting in Aurora. The U.S. Conference of Mayors repeats its call for reasonable changes in our gun laws and regulations that could help to prevent senseless tragedies such as the one that has shocked Oak Creek and the nation.”
Philadelphia Mayor Michael A. Nutter (Photo by Brendan Hoffman/Getty Images)
Nutter issued a very similar statement after the shooting in Aurora, Colo., where police say James Holmes, 23, opened fire at a movie theater during a midnight screening of “The Dark Knight Rises” last month.
“While questions about his motives and about how he obtained his weapons will be answered in the hours and days ahead, the fact remains that once again guns have been used in a mass killing of innocent people,” Nutter said in the statement.
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IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:13pmYes, those evil people that kill others just need stronger laws and then they will just give up and be upstanding citizens. While the innocent people that hunt or just want protection from idiots that want to kill are the ones that are really being targeted.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:30pmLook at the cities these yo-yo’s represent. Bet the ‘murder rate’ is obscene; they need to pass some ‘YOU WILL’ laws; you will own a pistol’ you will carry it at all times; you will not be a victum…..sorry for the folks that got shot; should have been packin’ instead of carring those silly ceremonial daggers.
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:32pmYou and gator are correct. No matter how many laws the libs and progressives put in place to restrict the freedoms of honest citizens, CRIMINALS by definition will still BREAK THE LAW. We don’t need more gun laws, we need more honest people out there on the street with guns to protect themselves and others PERIOD. But as usual the libs and progressives will blame this on the gun, not the criminal with the gun. The libs and progressives want nothing more than to have us all enslaved to a government and unable to defend ourselves against a criminal government, it is after all their agenda.
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:35pmWe really need to outlaw idiot mayors…….
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:39pmIts the NRA’s lax gun laws that allow the criminals to arm. the NRA preys upon the paranoia and fear of White suburban and rural communities to get these insane laws passed. In Wisconsin it is harder to get a driver’s license than to purchase a tool created for one purpose, to kill.
The 2nd Amendment is a relic of the past, of a time when muskets where the only fire arms around and there was no standing army. The NRA fanatics fail to mention the first part of the Amendment, the need for the militia to be “well regulated.” Mayor Bloomberg’s investigation has proven that the gun trade is anything but well regulated.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:47pm“The 5th Guru Arjan Dev was martyred by the Mughal ruler Jahangir on 16 May 1606 for refusing to convert to Islam. The martyrdom of Sri Guru Teg Bahadur Ji 9th Guru to protect Hindus from religious persecution, in Delhi, on 11 November 1675 AD, is another example of upholding minority religious freedom; he gave his life to protect the right of Kashmiri Hindus to practise their own religion when they were being forced to convert to Islam by Aurangzeb, the Mughal emperor at the time.”
The 10th Guru had Sikhs carry knives so that Muslims could not murder them.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:51pmAll Sikhs of good character must apply for Concealed Carry Weapons permit. The handgun is the modern equivalent of a kirpan.
The kirpan is a ceremonial sword or dagger carried by Sikhs. It is a religious commandment given by Guru Gobind Singh (the tenth Guru of Sikhism)
The kirpan has both a physical function, as a defensive weapon, as well as a symbolic function. Physically it is an instrument of “ahimsa” or non-violence. The principle of ahimsa is to actively prevent violence; the kirpan is a tool to be used to prevent violence from being done to a defenseless person when all other means to do so have failed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan
The 5th Guru Arjan Dev was martyred by the Mughal ruler Jahangir on 16 May 1606 for refusing to convert to Islam. The martyrdom of Sri Guru Teg Bahadur Ji 9th Guru to protect Hindus from religious persecution, in Delhi, on 11 November 1675 AD, is another example of upholding minority religious freedom; he gave his life to protect the right of Kashmiri Hindus to practise their own religion when they were being forced to convert to Islam by Aurangzeb, the Mughal emperor at the time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikh#History
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:52pmTHEY don’t speak for my state of Arizona! They should shut up and sit down…we all know who it is that THEY SERVE! And it isn’t WE THE PEOPLE!
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:57pmEncinom, what an idiot. The NRA hasn’t passed a single law. According to the Federalist papers, you know, the pamphlet that was printed up explaining the U.S. Constitution when it was being voted on for ratification, the main reason for the 2nd amendment was so that citizens could protect themselves from a tyrannical Federal government and so that they could protect their homes and families. Last year the USSC ruled that citizens have the RIGHT to own firearms. As for the amendment being outdated and the founding Fathers couldn’t imagine rapid fire weapons, DaVinci worked on a machine gun, Ben Franklin worked on a machine gun, and Thomas Jefferson worked on a machine gun. They had a pretty good idea that someday there would be rapid fire weapons. They couldn’t have foreseen anything like radio, tv, or the internet. Yet idiots such as yourself can post moronic thoughts for the whole world to see.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:02pmencinom
The 2nd Amendement is a relic?
How about the 1st amendment or the 4th?
Consider this. We have the 2nd Amendment (circa ~ 1783). Before that the Sikhs were commanded to have Kirpans (personal defense knife) centuries earlier. This happened in different lands in different eras. It points out the fact the more things change the more they remain the same.
People must be arm & protect themselves.
The Gabby Giffords shooting was stopped by a person who was a grandma. A grandma wrestled with Loughner & won. These shootings are worse because people are waiting for the police. More people should be like that grandmother.
Report Post »Warcauser
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:04pm” The 2nd Amendment is a relic of the past, of a time when muskets where the only fire arms around and there was no standing army.” Something tells me you haven’t heard of the old saying “tried and true,” Encinom.
Report Post »SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:06pm@ ENCINOM…..”On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invent against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.”
Thomas Jefferson letter to Justice William Johnson, June 12, 1823
Many millions of United States Citizens believe that the Second Amendment ONLY refers to each State’s power to form militias. This is simply not the case. The Second Amendment does indeed refer to the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right.
When the Second Amendment was written, there wasn’t any National Guard. The People were the National Guard. In fact, the National Guard did not exist for another 116 years.
Private Firearm ownership is a guarantee against the breaching or transgression of all the other rights reserved to the People. Private and free gun ownership is a guard against any possible tyranny or dictatorships. The Founding Fathers knew what they meant and meant what they wrote.
The Founding Fathers clearly did not believe that limiting lawful access to firearms by law-abiding, honest and upright citizens of good moral character would either diminish crime, nor be constitutional.
thank you……
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:13pm-ENCINOM
“The 2nd Amendment is a relic of the past, of a time when muskets where the only fire arms around and there was no standing army.”
This speaks to how you truly do not understand the constitution, the purpose of the bill of rights, or the intent behind the 2nd amendment.
Report Post »Alky
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:13pmIf it was made a law that everyone must have a 9 mm in their night table, home invasions would end immediately.
Report Post »A gun-free zone is the most dangerous place on earth.
objectivetruth
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:16pm@enciom
Report Post »Whatever are we going to do with you?We send you to school and all you can do is well you know the rest.
First off the NRA isn’t crazy nor fear mongering.There is a very real agenda to disarm we the people.Its necessary for total overthrow and control of the massesLook back through history you will see that I’m right.As to your comment of a militia.Just who do you think the militia consists of?Do you seriously think its only those who are in uniform and or those signed on the dotted line-employed by the state of feds military?No its every man women and child that believes in the constitution and who is willing to fight and die for it.We are the last line of defense if and when all else fails.I nor many others will allow you or anyone else to upsurp our responsibilities.
As to the irresponsibility of regulation.Wrong again.Your first mistake was citing bloombat.He along with the rest of the irresponsible lazy troglydite despots create the irresponsibility themselves.They are in fact in violation of the american constitution.They have disallowed the majority of their citizens to purchase guns.It sends them out of state.They in essence commit treason then blame other states for their own crimes.They pander to weaklings of mind and body.Those for whom the real truth is too hard of a pill to swallow.Those who in fact have taken a very drunken gulp of the koolaid
The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:23pmIf the 2nd ammendment only applies to arms fashioned during the drafting of the constitution, then the 1st ammendment also only refers to avenues of speech that were around during that time period as well.
Accordingly, your speech on the internet and all other electronic devices is not protected since these inventions did not exist before September 17 1787.
The government will be at your house by 4pm. Do not resist. Enjoy the rest of your day.
ikambor
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:27pmthose shooters are shooting the wrong people
Report Post »IsThereADifference
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:33pmWell there are 1295 mayors who want stricter gun laws. In that case screw the constitution and our second amendment rights. No big deal. The constitution means jack **** to the sludge who call themselves Americans these days. The jerk off’s on the right want to elect Romney who signed an assault weapons ban into law in Massachusetts. The jerk off’s on the Left are playing the same games they always have.
The U.S.A. is NOTHING without the Constitution and The Bill of Rights but that isn’t stopping us from destroying them. American’s are a bunch of progressive Socialists who make me sick.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:44pm@Rickfromillinois How many tyrants has the 2nd Amendment stopped? The listed of its innocent victims is miles long, from clock towers in Texas, to a school and movie theater in Colorado to a temple in Wisconsin, to countless city streets. Paranoid fantasies of FEMA camps and other BS the NRA, Beck and other fringe opinion makers feed the gun nuts is nothing more than poison responsible for the deaths of innocent Americans.
Report Post »Maji
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:47pmMoncine,(enicnom)
It’s more of “lax voting laws”. Like the ones that allow places of Chicago where
they have more people voting than are alive and legal too !
When the U.S. Prez”s is selling guns to make a political point!
Where a liberal (SOCIALIST) administration is uses IRS as method of punishment instead
of securing funds to run the government!
Not filling “Inspector General” positions to prevent proper oversight of rogue liberal run government.
Not putting forth a federal budget.
Report Post »I think liberals are “Out-dated! Not the 2nd amd.
Just to name a few.
mikem1969
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:47pmI see encinijerk the worthless one is out on troll duty again.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:52pmWait, this guy just had a hand gun and James Holmes had an “assault rifle” that jammed by the way, but the liberals just have to jack this thing up and see what they can get out of it. Pretty soon we will hear from the President wanting to ban guns just like he did after the Colorado movie theater shooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojKjhX5lzuI
These people are pathetic.
Report Post »hard.right
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:03pmencinom. the nra doesn’t make laws, in fact, they lobby against laws. you are ill informed about how government works or the purpose of this particular PAC. it’s purpose is to prevent ANY law regarding gun regulations. therefore, by definition, your position is stupid.
second, you can argue that the 2A is antiquated, perfectly legit argument. but a couple of things regarding your position that are completely incorrect. read up on the wording of the 2A and the Federalist and Anti Federalist thought process that went into it. The need for a militia REQUIRED that everybody had guns. it has NOTHING to do w/ a militia being the source of guns. you are backward on that. second, standing army, the entire concept goes against the entire bill of rights. if you are going down that route, then the standing army antiquates the rest of the 1st 10 amendments. the point was that there SHOULD NOT BE a standing army, volunteer or otherwise. go read about it, again you are backwards.
you can argue your point all day, but don’t use the origins and underlying reasoning for the Constitution. you are neither educated enough on it, nor do you understand what little you have attempted to defend your position with. just argue against it. push for an amendment to negate the 2A if you like, but don‘t pretend you know what you are talking about regarding it’s original intent and meaning, you are 180 degrees the wrong direction there.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:06pm@Encidope,
Lets go through this again and I’ll make it as simple as possible. Sad as it may be, in the past 10 years a total of 300 people or less have died of these similar tragedies. Like I said, sad it is….
However, in the past 100 years when firearms were confiscated almost 250,000,000 innocent people have been killed.
Break it down, when the government controls guns 2,500,000 people on average die per year.
When we are FREE to own guns, 30 people average per year are killed.
And this is what you defend? This is why the 2A should NEVER be tampered with! Yes, it really is that simple…
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:07pmecinom…..educate yourself. “Well regulated” at the time the Bill of Rights was penned meant that you should be well practiced with your weapon. Not the typical regulation you are in love with. As for you question “How many tyrants has the second amendment stopped?”………ALL of them…….
Report Post »hard.right
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:16pmencinom, what lives has any gun law saved? mag limits, full auto weapons, short barrelled rifles, outright gun bans. you use the texas tower as an example. aurora had laws preventing everything that guy did, he transported weapons in his car, open carried them into the theater, all illegal actions. laws don’t stop crazy.
you need to take a logic course, your making straw man and other informal fallacies and logical fallacies in every point you make. nonsense nonsense nonsense. you need to simply argue your point, you believe in gun bans, whether they do anything or not, and that’s what you want to see happen w/ the laws. you have no data or any proof that your position is any better or more effective than pro 2A folks.
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:36pm“…[R]epeats its call for reasonable changes in our gun laws and regulations that could help to prevent senseless tragedies.”
Gun resrictionsARE NTtheanswer nor are guns the problem.
It is the entertainment industry that glorifes violence and offers untold gory murder and mayhem in living color that prompts these mentally disturbed people to copy what they see at the movies and on T.V., plus they glorify the use of drugs, both of which were unequivocally the main reasons most of these shooters acted out their fantasies.
Guns have always been in this society in greater abundance percentagewise than they are now, but it was very rare to have a shooting like the ones we have seen in recent times.
Would it make the gun grabbing freaks who hold Hollywood blameless any happier if killings were done from here on out with a crossbow?
Report Post »oinia
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:47pmStrict gun laws make a place more dangerous because….
the only people who will abide by gun laws are law-abiding citizens.
Reality is the greatest obstacle to the liberal-progressive mind.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:48pmENCIDIOT/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO..can you tell you me how lax the gun laws were for FAST AND FURIOUS?
Report Post »CMDR6
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:10pmencinom, based on your POS logic, then we can say that the 1st amend is a relic because they never could have imagined a duffus like you being able to print words on the internet, or some blathering idiot like Maher talking on a TV, or Pres. Odumba speaking to the “world”. So maybe we do away with the constitution and all of the bill of rights and we stab people who say something we don’t like???? you are too much, too much BS…..
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:30pmIt was a shame Bloomburg, or Nutter wasn’t there visiting the temple. One of their armed bodyguards could have shot this guy before he killed the rest of those people. Come Nov. 1st here in Oklahoma we go to open carry. I saw in our local paper that getting into a carry class and getting a permit is up from 2 months to 5 months due to shortage and backlog of licenes and personal in the licensing office at the state capital.
Report Post »Rickfromillinois
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 3:52pmEncinom asked “How many tyrants has the 2nd Amendment stopped?”. I suppose one answer could be “so far, all of them”. Another answer could be “How many burglars have been prevented from breaking into homes by locked doors? Just because no one can say for sure doesn’t mean that it is a good idea to leave your door unlocked at night.” The 2nd amendment was put into the Constitution to protect citizens from a tyrannical government and so that citizens have the means to protect themselves. Your “reasoning”, if one can call it that, seems to be that there hasn’t been any tyrants so far so it is no longer needed. Never mind that the 2nd amendment may have been preventing some would be tyrants from assuming too much power, what are we supposed to do if once all firearms are removed and a tyrant takes over? It would be too late then to bring back the 2nd amendment. I suggest that before you go onto the web and display your ignorance and lack of understanding the the Constitution, you actually read the Federalist’s papers.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:17pmHow did Austrailia’s gun control work out for them? It’s according to whom you ask..Us Gov says A okay..Crime down..Austrailia begs to differ. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGaDAThOHhA
“Once the New World Order is established..many people will die..but it will be a better world for those who survive.” Henry Kissinger
From Paul Harvey
In 1929 the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
· In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
· Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill, and others, who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
· China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
· Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
· Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
· Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million “educated” people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Report Post »normbal
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 4:50pm“Shall not be infringed” is a hell of a lot more specific than “emanations and penumbras” of a “right to privacy” the SCOTUS said allowed for murdering unborn children in 1972 in Roe v. Wade.
What makes us UNSAFE is these selfsame mayors who DO infringe on our rights.
It is no coincidence that the areas of the country with the highest violent crime rate have the highest rates of “gun control,” and in general are areas controlled by the democrats.
We don’t need fewer guns, we need more and in more hands, until anyone even remotely contemplating the use of force against another will realize this will simply be suicide.
Report Post »naed5048
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 6:42pmSimple reply…CHICAGO……sctict gun controll has done wonders for that city…The debate was settled 221 years ago when the bill of rights was signed…….No furthe debates needed
Report Post »txdave22
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 6:58pmWe’ve tried it with weak laws, many people have died. Maybe we should try stronger laws on automatic firearms and finding the idiots who might use them faster. But we should also kick the IMMORALS OUT!
RNC says NOTHING about adultery, whoremongering, breaking of COMMANDMENTS of sitting US pub senator. YOUR TAX DOLLARS paying his salary/benefits. HYPOCRISY or has adultery become the norm in the GOP, unworthy of comment?
We’ve heard no CARDINALS, ARCHBISHOPS, PASTORS AND LEADERS OF THE MORMON CHURCH CONDEMN————-WHOREMONGERING AND BREAKING OF THE LAW AND THE COMMANDMENTS???————————–Bill O’Reilly: ‘I Don’t Think Vitter Should Be There. Absolutely Not’
Report Post »————-By Judd Legum on Jun 17, 2011 at 11:10 am
Yesterday, Anthony Weiner resigned a few days after admitting he sent lewd messages to women he made over the internet. ———————————-Weiner’s announcement came after pressure from Leader Nancy Pelosi, DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, and President Obama. Nevertheless, top Republicans criticized Democrats for “protecting” Weiner.
————————–1,432 days ago, Sen. David Vitter admitted to being a regular customer of a prostitution service. ——————–(An activity that is, incidentally, illegal).—————– Days after his admission he was welcomed back with open arms by the Republican party.
——————Thus far, the Republican leadership has not been pressed to expla
urnokid
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 7:46pmhave you noticed that after something like the shooting, the liberal nuts want to take the guns away from the people that didn’t do it?
Report Post »Wolfgang the Gray
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 8:46pmIsn’t Mayor Bloomberg a big hat in that organization? Mayors have room to talk since they can have police bodyguards with them whenever they want. Same as the “leaders” in Washington, they have the Secret Servicing watching over them 24/7. It is easy for them to cry out for gun bans and such. If Obama goes for his gun ban, that may well be the spark that lights the fuse.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:04pmThe reason for second amendment= Hussain
Report Post »EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
yougottabekidding
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:09pmTo continue
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen-year period.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
It’s more and more obvious that Barack Obama is preparing to DECLARE MARTIAL LAW — we MUST STOP HIM NOW!
Report Post »Any question in your mind how smart the founders were?
rackandroll
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:12pmCDC stats on mental illness in the U.S. indicate we are lucky that in a nation of 300 million we don’t have a hundred of these mass killings per day. our kids are on ritalin, adderall, and we use more prescription anxiety/depression drugs than most of the rest of the world combined and still most people that require treatment do not receive it. our economy’s being destroy by our leaders, our young people have no jobs and the POTUS is trying to instigate a class war. We are not done yet, I truly believe it is going to make the middle east look like a tea party before everything gets straightened out.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 9:21pmencinom
Report Post »Under EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 where do you think you will be?????
Sheriff Goober
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:23amencinom
Plenty of tyrants have been stopped by having guns, the latest was the shooter that turned the gun on himsef, or cops shot him. Holmes will be stopped too, once he faces the death penalty.
The death penalty works wonders at stopping killers. Every person who has been executed has never come back to kill anybody else.
so yes the death penalty has a 100% deterrance in stopping killers.
No need to outlaw guns, just apply much more use of the death penalty. Give them a year once they are sentenced, then put the killers to death.
Charles Starkweather
Report Post »was put to death within a couple months in Nebraska Electric chair for killing 11 people.
He was 17 years old when he died in the chair.
So increase executions, and make it swift.
That will send the murder rate down almost to 0
SquidVetOhio
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:53am@ENCINOM
“The 2nd Amendment is a relic of the past’
Well, then so is the 1st Amendment. So shut up. See how that works when we pick and choose wich part of the Constitution we want?
Report Post »historyguy48
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:01amEncinom, it’s a shame that you are blind. Perhaps surgery can correct this problem, or perhaps a home invasion might finally allow you to see the light, when the police and ambulance show up only ten minutes after you and your family are shot by those nice fellows wearing masks (no they aren’t Batman).
Report Post »Since you don’t, or can’t, understand the truth you will become a conservative only when you learn the truth the hard way.
This could happen before the end of this year. Wait and see!
Benjamin Jarvis
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 6:17pm@ Encinom
“In Wisconsin it is harder to get a driver’s license than to purchase a tool created for one purpose, to kill.”
I’m from Wisconsin. This is a complete lie. It’s so much harder to get a gun…Unless of course you know a CRIMINAL who’s willing to sell you a gun, or a drivers license for that matter.
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 7:28amEncinom-
Report Post »You are just a moron. Bad people would get guns regardless of the law, and if no guns were around they would use knives, bats, steel pipes, propane tanks set on fire, etc.. People have been murdering other people since the beginning, no law will ever change that.
gator51
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:12pmThis is an unfortunate event but nothing compared to what seems to always happen when a government decides to disarm its citizens. Usually genocide! We need more good people carrying.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:34pmAgreed – and it is proof of the moral bankruptcy of those who want to disarm the nation for their own holding and aquisition of power. For when a people fear the government a tyranny results, when a government fears the people, then liberty is maintained.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:43pmThe 10th Sikh leader said all Sikhs males should carry knives so they would not become victims of Muslim aggression.
Well lets update that. All Sikhs who are of good character should apply for a CCW.
If you don’t, you are not a true Sikh.
Report Post »mrunner
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:11pm212 murders in Philly 2012 YTD. Over half of the cases are open. Vast majority of the ones “solved” involved perps who had been arrested more than 6 times prior to the murder. Sounds like a failure of the mayor to address the root cause in his city. Once he fixes his city- I may listen to his advice on this issue.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:41pmGuns brought down south, legally along I-95 are sent to Philly, NYC, etc. It is the Southern States that care more about appeasing the NRA than they do American citizens that is the root cause of the gun violence.
Report Post »eagle2715
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:15pmThe fact that criminals can buy guns and legal residents can’t is a problem for the cities, not Virginia… Virginia is it‘s own sovereign state and the fact that the big cities have idiotic unconstitutional laws has no bearing on how Virginia should write it’s laws….
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:15pmencinom
The more jobs; the less violence. Learn it, Love it or Leave.
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:30pm@enciom
Report Post »No its the fact that we will not be ruled by a tyranical new york mayor with grandiose delusions of being our supreme leader.It isn’t the southern states fault there.Its the big city d>>ks who violate the US constitution.Not all of those guns that are found actually are used in crimes.SImply owning one if lord bloombat decrees you shouldn’t is a crime there.It isn’t where its purchased.See in the southern states you actually have to commit a crime of magnitude to lose your rights of carrying.I know the concept of responsibility is something you and those who think like you can’t handle.
Though your post does remind me its time to start a petition to remove bloombat.Hes an endangerment to his citizens and for that matter to all citizens.He is in violation of the second amendment.He has in fact done so in a conspiritorial manner, that if he were acting in his personal capacity ,he would have been indicted tried and executed long ago.However he is acting in his official capacity.Which means that only secession may be asked, rather than a trial.Although impechment is still possible.
AvengerK
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:46pmHonestly ENCIDIOT..I don’t think even you believe the garbage you just tried to sell.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:47pmENCIDIOT..how lax where the guns laws for FAST AND FURIOUS?
Report Post »kpeters59
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:10pmPlease, please, please! Let the Mayor of Houston be on the list.
That way it will be easier to vote her out next time.
Report Post »johnVMFA122
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:10pmHow about criminal control instead… use a firearm to commit a crime and you get 25 years without parole. Injure someone and you get life… kill and you get death handed down in 90 days or less from the end of your trial. That’s GUN CONTROL!
Report Post »Blazebanned
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:17pmAmen John.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:41pmI’d also like to see every new firearm fired and the bullets individual ballistics recorded in a database. I’d also like to see every pre-owned firearm fired as well (before the transaction is completed) and the bullets individual ballistics recorded as well. In the case of pre-owned weapons, they’d also be checked (before the transaction was complete) to see if it had been used in any crimes. The same with all barrels you buy separately.
In a number of years, any crime involving a shooting should be an easy matter of tracing the firearms history right up to the newest owner. Except in the case of shotguns, and possibly .22′s.
Other than stolen weapons, this would be a big help I think. It would be a step towards “gun control” that really does not infringe on anyones rights.
And wouldn’t everyone want to know (before they are the new owner) if the weapon had been used in a crime?
Report Post »TheEDGE
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:49pmNo, no, no! That would still leave their true enemy armed. Government‘s only solution in the end is to take all guns and to SHOOT anyone who doesn’t comply. It’s “Give up your guns or die.”
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:44pmBefore you jump on that bandwagon remember that the innocent sometimes are convicted as well.If it were clear cut that might work.However it won‘t for one simple fact They would complain about those cases where it isn’t.Second off it isn’t always clear in supposedly clear cut cases.If you disblelieve me google the innocence project.You may just see things in a whole new light.
Report Post »To second poster
While what you propose has some validity.There is a major problem with it.It is in fact backdoor control of the worst type if misused.Could you truly trust all of those ballistic records in the hands of someone?Someone who may have an agenda,been bought off,personal vendetta.All you need do is google the forensics scandals of the past to know its possible.Please don’t tell me that background checks will solve the problem, we know they won’t.Look at how many terrorists and criminals work in our government.
scuffy
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 1:37amI’m with you and no more five or six or seven appeals either !!!!!!!
Report Post »KevINtampa
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:09pmPretty big birth pang right now, can anyone else feel it?
Report Post »Firesaber
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:06pmDon‘t buy into the Left’s argument. There is no way to protect against a crazy killing people. If they argue for assault weapons bans, criminals will only use a 12 gauge instead. If all guns were eventually outlawed, they would either get the guns illegally or learn how to make IEDs, leaving us at the mercy of criminals and a government run amok. Read 2084!
Report Post »Flag-Man
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:14pmLike has been said before.
Report Post »If Guns Are Outlawed
Only Owtlaws Will Have Guns
Semper Fi
HorseCrazy
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:21pmyes the crooks will always have guns and the left will always hide behind those with guns in times of trouble. I have a lot of firearms and this may be shocking but my “assault” rifle has never hurt anyone and neither have my other guns. just stupid God help those families affected by gun crime but I have to say hijacking airplanes was illegal but it didn’t stop the terrorists on 9/11 nor have we outlawed airplanes.
Report Post »Glenn is my hero
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:04pmHence the need for more concealed carry permits!!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:10pmExactly .. more LEGAL guns .. less crime.. it has been proven time and again .. look at Chicago and their strict gun control laws. Criminals don’t care about gun laws.
Report Post »jcldwl
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:11pmYou should also add that once people obtain their permit then they should carry. I know too many people that got their permit but still don’t carry. Doesn’t make sense to me. My Motto is….”Glock…never leave home without it.”
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:27pmor no permits at all and let people own what they want.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:43pmRight, cause more guns is the answer, more people who should be allowed to look at a gun, should now have nearly unlimited access to them.
Report Post »brother_ed
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:44pm@INDY
That’s crazy talk!!
Next thing you know you’ll want to let people eat what they want, decide if they want to wear a seat belt or wear a helmet. I’m sure you would let people pick the schools they want their kids to go to, or (heaven forbid) whether a business can allow smoking at it’s establishment!
You can have your liberty – I’ll take my security, thank you very much!!
(sarcasm off)
Report Post »resme
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:54pmWhy concealed carry? open carry it’s legal without a permit.
Report Post »Just_Us2
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:46pmAn illegal act that caused loss of life was ended by a gun. Happens all the time. I guess some would rather have dozens or hundreds shot rather than a few.
I Obama’s children were at that church or at the movie theater in Aurora, the shooters would have died under a hail of bullets before they got off one shot. That is why we have the secret service armed with guns and not pepper spray.
Less guns = more death = Mexico
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:59pmYeah I’m all for open carry.Its how we always did it.One of the reasons someone with a cc permit may not use it is that it conflicts with there real beliefs of open carry.It also may have been issued in connection with their job.By not carrying off clock ,there is no doubt that if anything happens it is in their personal capacity ,rather than employers capacity.
Report Post »Oh and as far as felons with guns.I think removing someones right to arm permanently in all but a few cases[types of crime] is draconian and useless.I mean think about it would you rather have a reformed felon with a gun or enciom armed with anything?Based on his dribble his accuracy with any weapon would be zero.Hes the type that accidently would hurt you with a toothpick and then claim you should be disarmed due to his criminal assault of you.
AvengerK
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:04pmI’m sure Rahm Emanuel is the Mayor we all want to speak to about reducing gun violence. He’s sure got the answsers. (sarcsam off).
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:02pmhow about gun control on the military and goverment instead. it seems there the ones that misuse them more than anyone else. Gun control leads to gun confiscation which leads to gulags or concentration camps remember that, we have FEMA camps for that use as well.
Report Post »Apple Bite
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:08pmNot sure if you’re trying to get a rise out of me, or make me pity your self worthlessness….
Report Post »DamocleAurelius
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:09pmDid you forget to take your meds again, indiv?
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:20pmlook like we got some gun control communists here.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:23pmgo ahead and vote romney you gun control communists.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:31pmThe Communist have taken over the Democrat Party,The Liberals have taken over The Republican Party.
Report Post »Both Parties together have set us up for a Dictator. We have all been sheep.
eagle2715
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:17pmWho’s gona come take all your guns, and then come take you to and keep you in the FEMA camp?
None of the cops I know or service members I served will do it….
Report Post »The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:27pmNot unless they are all nationalized. Your local homeboy cop won’t comply, but some Washington peacekeeper sent from D.C. might do so.
Report Post »elderbat
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:57am…..HUH?????? Gun control on Holder & Co. yes. But on the MILITARY??? I have ancestors who have fought and/or died for freedom from the Revolutionary War forward. Back up and regroup!
Report Post »randy
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:00pmIt is unclear whether Nutter reached out to other mayors in the U.S. Conference of Mayors before calling for gun control on behalf of the entire organization.
Perfectly clear to me.
Report Post »He represents all the crumbling heII hole cities who have elected democratic mayors.
nattybrooks
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:00pmnever seen a law stop a bullet and what good would more laws do? laws are not followed or enforced every single day from the top down. be vigilante, be prepared, be safe.
Report Post »thetruthlives
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:59am2nd Amendment……….
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:45pmis a relic of the past, of a time when muskets were the only firearms. Also the 2nd Amendment demands a well regulated militia, Mayor Bloomberg’s investigation has proven that the gun trade is anything but well regulated.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:12pmencinom – why is it that you lefties always take things to an extreme. Do you lack common sense? There are plenty of nuts out there that do mass shootings and they have nothing to do with the everyday person who keeps a gun for PROTECTION. If you believe its a relic of the past, you must be oblivious to all that is happening today that makes protection from criminals and from government more necessary than ever. And who is asking for unlimited access to guns? Just extreme on your part.
Report Post »objectivetruth
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:22pm@encinom
Report Post »If its a relic then why waste time commenting on it?Why try an force those unbelievers on your side?Because you know its not a relic and it scares you.Please by all means do share with us as to why gun owners are such a threat to you?Why their right and responsibility is so detrimental to your well being?Just because you wish to roll up in a ball and die if attacked ,why do you think everyone else wants that?So many questions, so little time or answers from you, as of yet
AvengerK
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:50pmA relic of the past ENCIDIOT?
Report Post »Was FAST AND FURIOUS a relic of the past also?
Sheriff Goober
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:48amencinom
wait till somebody tries to put a bullet in your head, you won’t thnk 2nd A is obsolete then, I can absolutely guarantee that, lest you don’t care of your own life, which it seems you do not.
Report Post »70S_KIDS_FIGHTING_SOCIALISM
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:58amThese are the same segregationist dividing America and claiming anyone who disagrees with them as radical hate mongers. They are the ones that are creating this environment of divide and hate.
Report Post »TEA PARTY UNTOUCHABLES!!!!!!!!!!!!
watersRpeople
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:56amYeah but if you take people’s guns, then another nation will be drawn up against America. But since I know you’re working to prevent that from happening – then another world will be drawn up against yours.
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:08pmBut I know that‘s why you’re working on a big laser beam. But they have bigger guns.
Report Post »watersRpeople
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:20pmDoes Ehola, and Eholabah ring a bell?
Report Post »normalmom
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:53amStricter gun laws will do nothing but hurt and limit the legal citizen. It will not fix the problem only give criminals free reign of terror and theft on us.
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:52amGun bans increase violent crime. Why do these mayors want to put their city’s residents in danger?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:47pmSo that they can pass MORE LAWS and control the people. Look at nanny Bloomberg .. now he is worried about BREAST FEEDING as opposed to bottle .. this guy has SERIOUS mental problems .. notice that he is obsessed by what is put in the mouth!
Report Post »bigbear_awake
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:51amCRIMINALS WILL have GUNS and GET THEM
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:49amPh, wow! How convenient!
mayors, your collective and individual backsides aren’t worth a hill of beans….mixing metaphors, but so are they.
Report Post »oinia
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:49amA conference of 50 million law-abiding, patriotic American citizens has been meeting for the last 3 years to restore Constitutional authority and strip our federal, state, and local governments of illegitimate violations of individual liberty and private property rights.
It’s called the Tea Party, the largest voting bloc in the world. We run this country from now on, Mayors, Senators, and Czars. Get used to it.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:51pmThe Tea ****** party is nothing more than a fringe collection of racist, under-educated home school drop outs, bible quoting bigots and other relics of the John Birch Society.
Report Post »eternal_vigilance
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:49amI think the mayors need to worry about their budgets and local city ordinances and keep their noses out of state and federal laws. They’re letting the alliances with the UN via Agenda 21 go to their heads.
Report Post »Mike Westfall No Hiding
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:48am“Nutter” His last name says it all.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:48amYes, it should be a strict law, that everyone carries a gun………..PERIOD.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:07pmRomney wouldnt like that. He think gun laws keep us safe.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:47amThe progressives are doing their best to disarm the citizens. Remember that Romney supports gun control also.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:03pmway more so than even Obama on that.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 12:25pmya ya blah blah so what are you going to vote for obama? seriously neither candidate is great we all get that but not voting or doing a write in like so many idiots will be doing is just a vote for obama. once in office romney is controlled by the RNC who is bought and paid for by the NRA, he will follow the NRA money which is why everyone should open up and get their lifetime NRA memberships if they haven’t already
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:45amLet the cities ban guns, fewer and fewer people will be willing to work there, fewer will visit there, crime will increase, tax base will decrease, standard of living will drop. We need to implement policies to get people back in the small towns anyway, mega cities do little but produce pollution and waste resources.
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