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Congress Still Finding Ways to Pass Earmarks Despite Ban — Here’s How (And a List)

Citizens Against Government Waste Congressional Pig Book Report 2012The government watchdog group Citizens Against Government Waste (CAWG) has released the 21st edition of its Congressional Pig Book (an in-depth examination of pork-barrel spending) and it has some good news and some bad news.

The good news is that since the House voluntarily imposed a ban on pork-barrel spending in 2010 (the Senate in 2011), the number of earmarks has plummeted by 98.3 percent (from 9,129 to 152) and the cost has decreased by 80 percent (from $16.5 billion to $3.3 billion).

Wait. Although those numbers are good — quite good, actually — why isn’t the decrease in both the number and cost of earmarks 100 percent? We thought there was a voluntary moratorium on pork-barrel spending.

That’s where the bad news comes in.

“Congress has figured out ways to stuff earmarks into spending by calling them different names,” CAWG president Tom Schatz explains, according to CBS News.

The CAWG report explains one of the problems with the self-imposed moratorium:

The supposed lack of earmarks resulted in a completely opaque process. Since earmarks were deemed to be non-existent, there were no names of legislators, no information on where and why the money will be spent, and no list or chart of earmarks in the appropriations bills or reports.

Earmarks were scattered throughout the legislative and report language, requiring substantial detective work to unearth each project. While the lower number and cost of earmarks is a vast improvement over prior years, transparency and accountability have regressed immeasurably.

“The transparency is much more difficult and it will be hard to see where, exactly, the money is being spent as it goes out the door,” Schatz said.

“Since they‘re technically not called ’earmarks‘ under Congress’ definition, Congress doesn’t have to disclose details — including who requested the money to be spent,” he adds.

According to the CAWG report, anything that satisfies at least two the following criteria is considered an earmark:

  • Requested by only one chamber of Congress
  • Not specifically authorized
  • Not competitively awarded
  • Not requested by the president
  • Greatly exceeds the president‘s budget request or the previous year’s funding
  • Not the subject of congressional hearings
  • Serves only a local or special interest

And these are some of the projects CAWG found that violate the moratorium:

  • $120 million to the military to research alternative energy.
  • $255 million to upgrade the Army’s M1 Abrams tanks.
  • $14 million for hydropower construction (the report believes this earmark is meant to benefit New York based on Sen. Chuck Schumer [D-NY] past involvement in hydropower earmarks).
  • $10 million for the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal Dispersal Barrier.
  • $48 million for the National Domestic Preparedness Consortium.
  • $3.4 million for national fish hatchery system operations.
  • $15 million for Rural Hospital Flexibility Grants (Flex) through the Department of Health and Human Services.
  • $5 million for abstinence education.
  • $5.8 million for the East-West Center in Hawaii meant to improve relations among Pacific nations. The center‘s recent projects include an endowment to honor President Obama’s mother.

“Because a moratorium is not a permanent ban on earmarks, a bipartisan group of senators is proposing such a ban,” Schatz said. “Since that effort has been rejected so far, it is reasonable to conclude that a majority of senators would like to restore earmarks.”

“Such a decision would bring back a deceptive practice that encourages backroom deal-making, vote swapping, and other political gamesmanship. It would also reverse the substantial progress that has been made in reducing the number and cost of earmarks and outrage the vast majority of taxpayers who continue to oppose any earmarks,” he added.

Read the full report here (via Scbibd and CBS News):
2012 Pig Book

This article has been updated.

Comments (65)

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  • ianmc002
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 5:28pm

    Half the story…

    Earmarks 101:

    First and least significant…earmarks are a way for our Congressmen to represent their constituents by getting ‘tax dollars’ back to them. In other words…they are doing what they were ELECTED to do.
    Secondly and most importantly earmarks are not all bad. Earmarks=TRANSPARENCY (for the money). Cutting earmarks will NOT cut spending/debt one IOTA; THAT money still gets SPENT regardless of the earmark outcome. IF an earmark is NOT placed in the bill, THAT money gets spent by the executive branch (i.e. OBAMA) with NO disclosure/transparency.
    So…if there were no earmarks then there would be NO transparency for that money, and THAT money still gets SPENT. The money that would have gone to the ‘earmark’ instead goes to the executive branch (i.e. Obama) and the executive branch would spend this money however it/he see’s fit without DISCLOSURE. By earmarking and then voting against the bill Ron represents his constituents and at the same time is making the money TRANSPARENT.
    AGAIN…If those bills are NOT earmarked, the money is still SPENT (with NO transparency by the executive branch). By earmarking the bills you are making the money TRANSPARENT.
    Ron Paul has NEVER voted for an earmark.
    Cutting the number of earmarks does NOT cut spending. Earmarks account for roughly 1% of federal spending FYI.
    It makes sense to earmark the alloted funds and KEEP transparency vs NOT earmark and still spend the money with NO transpar

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    • Liberalismsamentaldisorder
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 5:35pm

      This is why there was such bi-partisan (should be a dirty word) support for banning “earmarks”. Now, it’s all hidden. Another jobbing of the American people well done.

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    • ianmc002
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 5:49pm

      Time2 you are such an idiot. At least do a little research next time will ya?

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 6:14pm

      Again IAN because you didn’t get it the first TIME_

      Paul’s strategy of stuffing legislation with earmarks that benefit his constituents and thus his reelection, and then vote against the overall bill knowing full well it will pass over his objections so he can claim to have opposed all the spending in the first place is nothing more than the same old same old game from a guy who say’s he a principled Washington outsider. This principled outsider (fraud) wanted to have it both ways me thinks eh? Principled my arse, just a slick game the system move from a BIG Gub’ment guy who whines about everybody else.

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    • ianmc002
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 6:41pm

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      Clearly you did not LISTEN Time. He is FORCED to pick one or the other. No earmarks or earmarks Time? Very, very simple. I also stated that yes maybe Paul knows the bills will pass anyways and is using it to his advantage. WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO DO TIME? To earmark or NOT to earmark? Paul is simply picking the lesser of two evils he is being FORCED to choose from. 4th sentence…very, VERY simple.

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    • ianmc002
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 6:44pm

      For the record idiot I LISTENED to you (Posted on April 17, 2012 at 5:22pm). Please feel free to go over my past responses. HELLO!!! Now try LISTENING to me.

      PICK ONE MORON! earmark? no earmark?

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    • rto
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 9:47pm

      Earmarks are the same thing a bribery, you vote for mine and I’ll vote for yours. It needs to STOP to bring back some kind of sanity to government. Down size the Fed and the money can stay in the state and not have the Fed take 75% of it like they do with the education money. You have to do away with all corruption, just 1% or not, decay is decay and the Fed is 1% us into bankruptcy.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 9:52pm

      Time_2, I just want to ask you if you think we are still a government of the people, by the people and for the people? If not, do you think that Obama and his administration are the sole perpetrator of this shift from our free society? In another post, you said that Paul was treasonous. That is a very strong accusation and should be thought out before being said. I believe that treason is when you subvert the Constitution, when you have given an oath to protect and defend it as a public official. Treason defined:
      trea·son [tree-zuhn] noun
      1. the offense of acting to overthrow one’s government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
      2. a violation of allegiance to one‘s sovereign or to one’s state.
      3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.
      If Paul were to turn his back on his constituents and not try to get their tax money back to their district, he would be committing an act of treason toward the people that elected him. He does the best job he can for them, but he still refuses to put his yes vote on any bill that is unconstitutional, a yes vote, on any bill that is unconstitutional, would be a type of treason.
      Once again you show that you have no clue as to what you say. See my post below.

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    • abbygirl1994
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:04am

      This is about these corrupt men and women making themselves richer while the rest of us suffer! We need to vote everyone of these creeps out of office that are nothing more than thugs! And then we need watchdogs to make sure these people never ever do another earmark! They are our employees and they have been helping themselves to our cash register in more ways than one! Vote em out!

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    • Tyler520
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 10:42am

      Ron Paul received more earmark spending than any other GOP state rep in 2011 – in fact, he was 1 of only 4 to request them.

      Your argument is completely bunk, and a pathetic excuse to disregard your savior’s hypocrisy

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    • kaydeebeau
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 1:21pm

      Ian is correct….. The language has been confused – earmarks are not the same as pork barrel spending (though some earmarks can turn into pork)

      It’s like this – you have a monthly budget of $1000. You earmark $100 for utilities, $100 for food…..pork would be $100 for your psychic to have a new tattoo done by your son the newly licensed tattoo artist while drinking champagne by the pool in your back yard

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 7:02pm

      @ianmc002,

      “Half the story…”

      THANK YOU!

      If we were following the Constitution, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.

      Under our current NON-CONSTITUTIONAL policy, the Executive Branch is the automatic allocator of appropriated funds; even though the Constitution says that it’s Congress who is supposed to allocate funds.

      So, the CLOSEST thing to doing what the Constitution says – apart from kicking out all the Marxists and educating the People as to what the Constitution says – is for Congress to go ahead and earmark (aka “allocate” – it does not mean to “stuff into”) the money that is being requested SO THAT THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH DOESN’T GET TO USE THE TREASURY AS A SLUSH FUND (any more than it already is, that is).

      If the Appropriations Bills amount to a waste of the people’s money, then vote against it – BUT THE REQUESTED FUNDS MUST STILL BE EARMARKED, IN CASE IT PASSES.

      On a related note, all funds which do get appropriated, and which have already been allocated to the states, should be kept by those states; Because if the states return the money, the Executive Branch will use it as a slush fund.

      This is why Ron Paul will fight to keep even that money which has been allocated for use as subsidies, which he opposes.

      See here.

      Earmarks Don’t Add Up
      http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul513.html

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  • Liberalismsamentaldisorder
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 5:13pm

    Our government is corrupt? Stunning.

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    • MAMMY_NUNN
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 7:12pm

      Yes who woulda thunk they would continue to do it in the open they are addicts they can’t help themselves but we can fire them all.

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    • USA-Ron
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 10:21pm

      I wish that each and every American could say

      the words said by Donald Trump, as needed ………………….

      “You’re Fired” to our Governments elected officials …….

      President
      Vice President
      Secretary of State
      Senators
      Representatives
      Governors
      State Congress
      *** Anyone that were Elected/Hired by us, Americans

      they are like “bed bugs” they get in there, can’t get them out, as needed

      we should remember the actual “Boston Tea Party” slogan …………..

      ‘No Taxation With No Representation”

      Sad to Say …………. (never happen)

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  • IndyNWguy
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 4:02pm

    This is funny. We don‘t like it when our politicians are honest with us about how they’re wasting our money. Makes sense. So our politicians tell us they won’t do it for a while. In the meantime they work to come up with new ways to hide how they’re spending our money?

    Sorry all, but RP has it absolutely right on the earmark issue.

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    • turkey13
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 4:53pm

      More reason to have term limits! The government needs to fire all 200 of the lawyers working to screw the public. All laws need to be written by a non-lawyer with a provision that all loopholes are null and void. It’s like the 2000 + page Health Care law that was written to hide and deceive and most lawyers couldn’t even understand it. I could have covered the basics in about 10 to 15 pages.

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  • nothinghere
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 3:56pm

    i figured if o‘bama’s mother was famous,or deserveing enough for a government endowment i would have seen her boi.in these postings somewhere, i think i read some of it somewhere and i‘m sure an endowment was’nt in order,but i did’nt think her son was noble-peace prize winning material either, maybe iit’s just me.

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  • USPATRIOT101
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 3:38pm

    An endowment to honor baracks mother?!?!?!? What the hell this this commy hippie ever do for this country?!?!?! She gave us barack, that should be considered a crime.

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  • heavyduty
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 3:35pm

    The only way they will stop the pork barrel spending is when they have to use their own money instead of ours.

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  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 3:32pm

    Congress is made up of a bunch of trash. We have let our government get away with so much they think we all are just complete idiots. They rule against the wishes of the people but for the benefit of their pocketbooks. Those who complain about them are called ‘fanatics, rightwingers, trouble-makers, or people who just do not understand’. What have we wrought? We are going to have to ,one day , take a que from our forefathers and rebel against this tyranny. THis group of self-proclaimed demi-gods are not our kings nor our dictators. They work for us and it is time they get that message.

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  • Scott15sb
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 3:09pm

    Where is the “Change” we were promised?!?!

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  • RebelYell1862
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 3:07pm

    gsjskkdhhj

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  • huey6367
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 3:01pm

    And you expected less? I hope you understand the dismal approval ratings of Congress.

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    • Hollywood
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 3:13pm

      Thw whole system is just so corrupt. So many of these REPS of the people have absolutely NO consciences, Schumer being but one example. The people in his district, voted him in, and therefore have culpability too! The U.S.A. gubamint is now a den of thieves, just about totally corrupt, without remorse, w/o conscience. THEY will be judged harshly by GOD. The U.S.A. is no longer a shining light on a hill, but a murder factory for 50 million babies[less the 1% aborted for therapeutic reasons?] God is Judging the U.S.,and other so called enlightened “Christian”, developed nations.

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  • freedomcatcher
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 2:37pm

    They are experts at changing definitions to suit their purposes, pretty much the same with all their legislative gyrations and legal games. A rose by any other name still has thorns. By the way I have noticed that the blaze is strangely silent on another story, If I missed it somehow, forgive me, but why nothing on the passport revocation bill ?

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  • fatjack
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 2:29pm

    Oh we love our pork, give me more, give us more pork. Look what’s taking place to our good friends in Michigan.

    Michigan government unleashes armed raids on small pig farmers, forces farmer to shoot all his own pigs

    http://www.naturalnews.com/035585_Michigan_farms_raids.html

    Shame on them.

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  • 83plus
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 2:27pm

    A ‘voluntary moratorium’ how many actually followed that to the letter.

    Just have the president pass a mandatory moratorium on any and all, he did it to to domestic oil drilling. Like that will happen, I think the stimulus bill had over 9,000.

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  • Jenny Lind
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 2:25pm

    OK, here I go- military tank upgrade, Ok with that. Fish deal, OK with that. Don‘t know if any of you know but in the 1800’s a plan to save salmon on the river in Sacramento, when the dam went in, is very successfull and has done real good for fish and people. I also had the opportunity from water abatement in Lancaster, Ca, to get free mosquito fish, which is a blessing to farmers and cattlemen alike. This group does good work for everyday stuff to sport fishing, I like these folks a lot. Domestic preparedness, my question, who is getting prepared and for what? BIG question mark there. Money for rual hospital stuff, I am OK with that. If you live in the boonies it’s a matter of life and death-however, want to know how it will be spent.. Abstinance is counter terrorism as far as I am concerned, the rest is BS, with all capitols, especially the Hawiian thing. Mickgringo-you are a hoot!

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  • JohnTwoFeathers
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:55pm

    Endowment to honor Oschmuckos mother? WTF are they gonna do? Honoring a woman that had her son come to America to schlep an education on a FOREIGN VISA with a false identity then declare himself a citizen after all. Honoring a crooks mother is not on anybodys agenda. Next will be a statue of Uncle Omar looking like Ho Che Min coming out of his liquor store right next to Martin Luther. OI VEA

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    • mickgringo
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 2:04pm

      Beautifully put, JTF…. You are a shining example worthy of recognition by the Little Lebowski’s Urban Achievers Foundation… BTW.. any word on where I left my black russian? Dude’s getting thirsty again…

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    • Jenny Lind
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 2:11pm

      Fun reading, thanks!

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  • cessna152
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:33pm

    *****$48 million for National Domestic Preparedness Consortium.*****
    _________________________________________________________________

    Obama’s brown shirts? I really am tired and completely fed up with this….

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    • INOGAWD
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:57pm

      $48 million for National Domestic Preparedness Consortium. ????
      Will this Program BUY me a Gun ?? Preparedness !!! HMMM !!

      This could be put towards Border Security…Obama won’t do that..
      Dump this corrupt Administration in November !!

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    • Jenny Lind
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 2:12pm

      Preparedness for whom and what?

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  • desertspeaks
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:31pm

    Our government has no equal when it comes to wasting STOLEN money! Taxes are theft!!! When you take money, against the will of producer and give it to parasites who have neither earned it nor deserve it, you have legalized theft, but theft non the less. Putting a pretty bow on it “calling it public good” doesn’t change the fact of theft!

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:24pm

    More political bribery and cronism; any non congress member who tried this would be in jail so fast their heads would be spinning for years.

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  • youdidthis
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:23pm

    Pilots For 9/11 Truth Presents “9/11 INTERCEPTED” – (Full Film) MUST WATCH!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhdppHwUJ9k&feature=related

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  • Tom K
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:21pm

    Congress, “ because we have always done it this way ”. Taxpayers/Voters,”Congress, you’re Fired” !

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  • HKS
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:21pm

    They are politicians, right? Neither Hell nor High Water is going to stop politicians from getting theirs.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:42pm

      How did it become that… being a Politician… gives the Right to Lie, Steal, and ignore Morals?

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  • youdidthis
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:19pm

    9/11 pilots say “NO WAY”!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5zvCdD9D1A&feature=related

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    • mickgringo
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:47pm

      Back to your mom’s basement, conspiracy nerd. Have seen better editing with the “Blair Witch Project” than what I saw with the links you posted. Do me a favor and bring me a black russian.. light on the ice and heavy on the russian. Conspiracy videos make The Dude thirsty….

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:57pm

      YOU. Is a notorious Ron Paul fanatic. YOU likes to end his posts if you happen to not like his comrade with FU and STFU. Isn’t that right YOU? Lol. I personally think YOU is actually Jesse Ventura. After getting smacked by a Navy SEAL, he’s became even more loopy.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 10:54pm

      Time_2, there you go again speaking without knowing what you say. I do not think he is a Paul supporter, I am a Paul supporter and I do not agree with him.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on April 18, 2012 at 9:06am

      LEFT. I’ve dealt with YOU on a number of occassions. Believe me… he is a Paul supporter.

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:03pm

    not surprised

    they play these tricks in ALL bills they pass

    why do you think a military funding bill has non military items in it ……………cause they know they can force it to be passed

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    • db321
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:13pm

      $5.8 million for the East-West Center in Hawaii meant to improve relations among Pacific nations. The center‘s recent projects include an endowment to honor President Obama’s mother.

      This is the second Ear Mark from Obama to Hawaii for covering up his Birth Certificate.

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:13pm

      the military fuel research earmark was because the navy has be forced to buy biofuel from the government to keep the bio subsidizes going………..they pay a lot more for the fuel although they have plenty of fuel already………….see the irony……the government gives money to bio research……..forces the nave to buy it AND it all gets paid for by US

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  • lukerw
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:56pm

    I am not against EarMarks that tell Obama how to spend money… as opposed to whatever. But, I am opposed to EarMarks that go only to a State or City for a “Project”! What part of “United States” cannot be understood?

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  • marine249
    Posted on April 17, 2012 at 12:51pm

    This make me as happy as a pig in sh++

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:08pm

      Where‘s the Big Gub’ment libertarian… Mr “I voted for it, before I voted against it” on this issue?

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 1:10pm

      Comment NOT directed at you MARINE, just glommed onto you post by accident. lol.

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    • ianmc002
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 3:41pm

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      You do understand the ‘principal’ of the earmark don’t ya? I doubt it. Earmarks should have been left alone. We need ALL of our Congressmen to write them in and turn around to vote against it like Dr. Paul does. There is a GREAT reason for it…just like amendment 318. Wana get educated?

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 4:45pm

      Paul’s strategy of stuffing legislation with earmarks that benefit his constituents and thus his reelection, and then vote against the overall bill knowing full well it will pass over his objections so he can claim to have opposed all the spending in the first place is nothing more than the same old same old game from a guy who say’s he a principled Washington outsider. This principled outsider (fraud) wanted to have it both ways me thinks eh? Principled my arse. Big Gub’ment game playing unprincipled libertarian insider more like it IMO.

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    • ianmc002
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 5:22pm

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      So Paul has TWO (2) options genius. Got it? Either you write in the Earmark, or you don’t. Pick one.

      Paul is picking the lesser of two evils that he is FORCED to choose from. I will not doubt what you are stating ‘Paul knowing that the bills will likely pass, even though he votes against them’, however…PICK ONE! Refer to the first sentence.

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    • ianmc002
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 5:35pm

      TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12

      I gotta tell ya Time I’m absolutely shocked that once again you have no clue on a subject yet refuse to close your gullet. Shocked I tell ya. Maybe a little research will reveal why Dr. Paul earmarks…ooops, I already listed it for you moron. HELLO!!!

      Please don‘t comment on something unless your ’halfway’ educated on it.

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    • West Coast Patriot
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 6:02pm

      Time_2, There you go again, speaking of things you know nothing about. You just say the same old things over and over again. Nobody pays attention to your ramblings anymore, you know that don’t you? Sometimes people are called idiots on here that really do not deserve it out of frustration, but you are a different story altogether, you really are an idiot. lmao.

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