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Congress Reacts: Dems Propose Gun Restrictions & Ban on ‘Threatening Language or Symbols’

Just hours after six were killed and 14 others injured in Saturday’s horrific shooting incident in Arizona, politicians 2,300 miles away in Washington, D.C. began plotting a legislative response.

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., one of Congress’ fiercest gun control advocates, is looking to strike while the iron is hot. “My staff is working on looking at the different legislation fixes that we might be able to do and we might be able to introduce as early as tomorrow,” McCarthy told Politico Sunday. Rep. McCarthy said that she plans to meeting with House Speaker John Boehner and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to see “if we can work something through” this week.

At the same time, another New York Democrat is blaming the pro-gun community for Saturday’s violent shooting. In a statement Sunday, Rep. Carolyn Maloney exclaimed that “guns kill” and that “those who glamorize gunplay or worship gun ownership do no service to humanity.”

“Democracy triumphs. The fundamental wisdom that has long distinguished our nation and has led her to greatness resides in our unwavering commitment to settle our differences with ballots, not bullets,” she said. “While it is too early to come to any conclusions about the causes or consequences of yesterday’s tragic events, it is never too late to reflect on lessons we have learned from earlier such tragedies, and take them to heart.”

While Maloney and McCarthy are focusing their efforts on restricting access to guns, Pennsylvania Rep. Robert Brady, a Democrat from Philadelphia, is proposing new limits on free speech. On Sunday, Brady told CNN that he plans to introduce a bill that would make it a crime for anyone to use language or symbols that could be perceived as threatening or violent against a federal official.

Brady told CNN Sunday that federal lawmakers and other government officials should have the same protections against rhetorical threats as the president, whose threats are monitored by the U.S. Secret Service.

“The president is a federal official,” Brady said. “You can’t do it to him; you should not be able to do it to a congressman, senator or federal judge.”

“This is not a wake up call, this is major alarms going off,” he said.

In particular, Brady says he takes specific offense to the electoral map produced by Sarah Palin’s political action committee during the 2010 midterm election which “targeted” a number of key swing districts. “You can’t put bulls eyes or crosshairs on a United States congressman or a federal official,” Brady said. “I understand this web site that had it on there is no longer in existence. Someone is feeling a little guilty.”

As we’ve reported, one Palin aide spoke out publicly Sunday about the backlash the former Alaska governor has received since Saturday’s shooting. “This is a terrible politicization of a tragedy,” Rebecca Mansour said. “We don’t know (the shooter’s) motive. It doesn’t seem like he was motivated by a political ideology. Craziness is not an ideology.”

Brady insisted he was not “pointing at any particular party,“ but stressed that politicians with opposing views should be able to ”disagree without being disagreeable.”

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  • Govtnitwit
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:12pm

    Brady you dumb ass…“perceived” is not a legal standard.

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    • GOTT-EM-MAUSER
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:47pm

      At least UNTIL some Marxist JUDGE decides that it IS. NOTHING is IMPOSSIBLE anymore in this Country.

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  • Bullion Luminary
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:12pm

    Here we go, around around down the rabbitt hole, one horrible little rotten apple spoils the rest…This man-child is getting exactly what he wants…misery and pain across america..

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  • jdawg
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:12pm

    Never letting a crisis go to waste, Dems are setting up to completely shred the Constitution.

    http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/democrat-to-introduce-bill-banning-crosshair-graphics-wake-of-az-shooting

    Today crosshair graphics, tomorrow, any speech that disagrees with Obama.

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    • Diamondback
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 11:24am

      “I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.” (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

      Just sayin’

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  • Bionicgargoyle
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:12pm

    1. Do they not realize that rocks and sticks are deadly, too. 2. What exactly will be considered a hateful sign? If you wave to one person, not another? Perhaps if you are wearing a logo of some company that sells sugary product? 3. What exactly will be dangerous language? Beck, perhaps? Teaparty Protests? For some reason I doubt those who throw paint on fur wearers or egg a republican’s car will be in that list. 4. do they have any idea how impossible all of this will be to implement AND enforce. Oh, guys not, they are all about things that look good on paper and in speeches, not things that are actually possible in reality.

    Lame regulations are what happen when you try to eliminate the human element.

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  • NickDeringer
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:11pm

    Not that facts matter, but let me refer the breathless congress creatures to a book that proves the value of a population able to defend itself

    “More Guns, Less Crime: Understanding Crime and Gun Control Laws, Third Edition (Studies in Law and Economics) ” by John R. Lott

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  • Ironmaan
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:11pm

    They could outlaw guns tomorrow and I’ll never part with any of my firearms. I will always maintain the ability to defend myself from intruder or government. I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
    http://guerillatics.com

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  • Rickfromillinois
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:11pm

    Ban guns and prohibit perceived threats? Perceived? Just what does that mean?
    Before anyone knew anything about this nut the Dems and their sheep were all over the net and tv blaming it on “right wing hate speech”. There still hasn’t been anything that indicates that this guy was influenced by what anyone was saying, but do the Dems do? They try to use this tragedy in order to ram through their left wing agenda that would not normally even get past first base. How long have these left wingers been waiting for this type of incident to try to get these abominations passed?
    Let’s go ahead and try to stomp all over both the first and second amendment. I guess when they read the Constitution the other day a whole bunch of Democrats were asleep.

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    • taebaggranny
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:03pm

      @RICKROMILLINOIS No they got up (most of them) and left..They probabaly didn’t want to hear it because then they would have to admit that they knew what was in it..

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    • diesel49
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:14am

      Hey they weren’t asleep, the a**holes aborre the CONSTITUTION and they boycotted the reading. See what slime the dems are

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  • rainy
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:11pm

    AZ Congresswoman assassination scenario has MKULTRA profile, drug & space target

    http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/az-congresswoman-assassination-scenario-has-mkultra-profile-drug-space-target

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    • Bullion Luminary
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:38pm

      Now that one make one heck of a movie!! I guess nothing is out of bounds now, huh….

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    • 7.62AirMailComeGetIt
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:54am

      Ever wonder why their stopping the pledge???????

      “I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

      Could it be it says RE PUBLIC (OOOwwww bad word-hint sarcasm )

      and they have you believe were a DEMOC RACY

      The Founding Fathers Were 100% AGAINST A DEMOC RACY

      read the Constitution and learn about it if you have any doubts

      And who’s getting the wool pulled over their eyes????????????????

      As the progressive screams NNOOOOOOO it cant be FLAG FLAG DELETE FLAG as the Truth lights up on their computer screen… no no no flag flag

      COPY & PASTE E-mail RE-POST

      Just an HONEST ?????????

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    • chickenbig
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 2:03pm

      @762…I agree, we are a republic, and the concept of Democracy and IT’S MISGIVINGS are truely centuries old…
      “ DEMOCRACY PASSES INTO DESPOTISM ”
      Plato 427 -347BC

      The founders of this nation were well read indeed.

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  • CaptainSpaulding
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:10pm

    That’s what we need: laws against guns and free speech.

    Those will protect us where all the laws failed. :)

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  • teammommy
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:09pm

    So the Dems are already trying to pass laws on a SPECULATED motive? Will target stores now have to change its logo as well? Please people! Where is personal responsibility?

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  • Race
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:08pm

    Welcome to the revolution, folks. Live free or die a slave.

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  • teammommy
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:07pm

    I cant believe this man hasnt spoken about his motives and the left are already trying to pass laws based on assumption. Wow. I guess Target stores will have to change their logo?

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    • LJSinAZ82
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:12pm

      Yes Target should change their logo. It’s really offensive! I’m not walking around with a target on my shopping bag! Hopefully the government does something about this. They know what to do.

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    • 8jrts
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:27pm

      Don’t you know?? It’s now a french pronunciation….Tar-shea’

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    • exdem
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:36pm

      The feds will probably offer him less time or prison of his choice if he says it was Palin or Beck that influenced him. The left and White House is sick of Fox educating we the people and will do anything to shut it down.

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  • LJSinAZ82
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:05pm

    No surprise here. The gun is guilty.

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  • ilikai
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:05pm

    Better learn to do the goose step, socialism and lost freedom is just around the corner.

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    • snidley-whiplash
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:37pm

      Don’t let the lead spoil that great tastin goose. That SOB won‘t be steppin when I’m done!

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    • patriotforlife
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:04pm

      Have faith, we will protect your rights unto death. The right will not lose. Just who is it your afraid of? Liberals are cowards.

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  • SND97
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:05pm

    I am sorry this Lady had a tragic event in her life, and I do pray for her husband, but Ma’am? You’re not getting my guns. I have had two for 35 years and never even considered doing harm to anyone, and never will. But it is my RIGHT to have them.

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  • civilunrestnow
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:05pm

    So they want to kill our 1st and second amendment rights…Let them try…

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:17pm

      this is DOA in the house

      but now we know.

      ————
      seriously, folks, the bullshyt is getting deep right now. you have my solidarity on this.

      lets all be sane and wise.

      we can’t let one little pisswit idiot political assassin send us all into a tizzy and turmoil….

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    • oldoldtimer
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:47pm

      WWI was started by 1 anarchist nut. So why could this not be the catalist for another American Revolution that restores the Constitution to pre 1913. Before it was gutted by Wilson and the progressive Dems. Before the Fed and 2500% inflation.

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  • Ironmaan
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:04pm

    They are just a bunch of opportunists and this is another pathetic attack on the 2nd ammendment. Stay out of our lives! Stay out!
    http://guerillatics.com

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  • MrButcher
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:02pm

    There should be no BANS on any kind of language!!!

    EVER!!

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    • republitarian
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:34pm

      Ditto.

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    • taebaggranny
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:50pm

      Start E-mailing your congressperson NOW!!! Let them know what you think/feel about this new attempt to take away our guns and free speech..That includes the internet and these comment sites..The Dems are bound and determined to close down any voices from any source that doesn’t agree with their agenda…

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    • Diamondback
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:02am

      First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:

      “CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW … abridging the freedom of speech; or of the press; …”

      Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution”

      “…, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and BEAR Arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.”

      (The all cap portions are my doing to emphasize the text.)

      “Officers of the court have no immunity from liability when violating a Constitutional right and may be held personally liable for damages under 42 U S C A 1983; for they are deemed to know the law. Knowing that they will be liable for all injurious conduct creates incentive for officials to err on the side of protecting citizens Constitutional rights. Owen Vs Independence 445 US 621, 100 SCT 1398
      Main vs Thiboutot 448 US 1, 100 SCT 2502
      Hafer Vs Melo 502 US 21, (1991)

      Also, related I believe, is 18 USC Section 241 and 242.

      People generally think there are no circumstances whereby public officials (cops, FBI, ATF, TSA, DHS, judges, politicians, etc.) may be sued personally. WRONG! It is asserting lawsuits against them personally EVERY TIME they attempt some unconstitutional BS and making them pay PERSONALLY that we will force conformance to our Constitution and the rights and privileges it REQUIRES these same government officers to PROTECT.

      Just sayin’

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  • NickDeringer
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:02pm

    Power is a narcotic. Once you get hooked you’ll do anything for your next fix including exploiting the tragic deaths of these poor people.

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  • Chiefsfan216
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:02pm

    Guns dont kill people, People kill people. You can leave a gun on a table for eternity and it wont shoot

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  • dwh320
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:02pm

    The Progressives never let a good tragedy go to waste… The always use it to advance their socialist agenda.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:11pm

      its not a true “socialist agenda”

      its pure and simple tyranny.

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    • AlaskaRick
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:53pm

      Yes if they stifle our speech and get our guns that’s Tyranny!!!

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  • Anarcho Capitalist
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:01pm

    So they plan on using guns to force people with guns? I thought Force was the problem?

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    • hifi74
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:41pm

      Only when they are not the ones using it.

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    • GOTT-EM-MAUSER
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:33pm

      That sums it up in a nutshell. The ONE Truth they don’t seem to have a grasp of though; NO PLAN EVER SURVIVES FIRST CONTACT. As one operator in Rhodesia so aptly put it, “Nothing takes the Fight out of em, quite like when people start dying around them!!”

      The best laid plans of mice and MEN……………………….

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  • texanpatriot
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:00pm

    Keep your hands off my guns. The Founders knew what they were doing and let me be the first to say: ‘Guns do not kill, people do’.

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    • rainy
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:12pm

      Exactly…

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    • William_Wallace
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:15pm

      Ok, people with guns do….

       
    • NE Cowboy
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:25pm

      William, please go back to the Huffington Post. Your NOT welcome here, lol.

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    • BeingThere
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:31pm

      Sorry guys but I‘m afraid it’s bullets … unless of course you beat someone to death with the butt of your gun. Liberty or DEATH!!

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:33pm

      William_Wallace : So do people with knives or bats or ropes or drugs or Democats with white hoods and ropes – did you have a point. Being against gun ownership is about the most ignorant idea anyone could have. Next we’ll ban Cars because they kill people.

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    • GOTT-EM-MAUSER
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:37pm

      WHEN they do start grabbing guns here in Texas, they would be well advised to bring plenty of asbestos gloves, and issue them to the rearmost ranks of their Militarized Police. By the time those that are left, get to the “Grabbing” part of the exercise, the barrels are going to be hot enough to see the rifling from the outside, and they’ll need to dig through MOUNTAINS of very hot brass just to get hold of them.

      ANYTIME THEY ARE READY, “COME ON DOWN”

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:00pm

      The Supreme court has defined a constitutional right…
      ” The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.” U.S. Vs. Miller 230 F2d 486 This ruling has never been overturned and thusly the Law of the Land.

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:05pm

      Supreme Court Ruling…” The Constitution of the United States is the Supreme law of the land. Any law that is repugnant to the Constitution is null and void of law.” Marbury Vs. Madison 5 US 137

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    • Abilene
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:09pm

      I prefer to call this a Reichstag moment. We may never know who put this nut job up to this evil deed, but it seems really suspicious how quickly leftist bloggers, and leftists in the government are jumping on it to blame conservatives and constitutional rights. We can probably expect to see many more Reichstag moments before November 2012. It will be important for Americans to see through them, because they will get worse. I’m not pointing any fingers, but George Soros, William Ayers, or Cass Sundstein come to mind when I think of this event. Look for the Reichstag moments to be worse in nature as we progress toward the next election. You read it here first.

      I suppose that this is the wrong time and place to tell the government that we, in Texas, will retain our firearms as long as we border Mexico, which looks like it will be a pretty long time.

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:09pm

      Supreme Court Ruling…” An unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; it affords no protection; it creates no office; it is, in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it has never been passed.” Norton Vs. Shelby County 118 U S 425

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:15pm

      Supreme Court “Constitutional provisions for the security of person and property should be liberally construed. The court is to protect against any encroachment of a Constitutionally secured liberty.” Boyd Vs. U.S. 116 U S 616

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    • P C BE DAMNED
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:22pm

      Supreme Court decision, “Officers of the court have no immunity from liability when violating a Constitutional right and may be held personally liable for damages under 42 U S C A 1983; for they are deemed to know the law. Knowing that they will be liable for all injurious conduct creates incentive for officials to err on the side of protecting citizens Constitutional rights. Owen Vs Independence 445 US 621, 100 SCT 1398
      Main vs Thiboutot 448 US 1, 100 SCT 2502
      Hafer Vs Melo 502 US 21, (1991)

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    • BlueStrat
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:25pm

      I’m all for “gun control”.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0D78JtxmqI

      You gonna believe some far-Left liberal loon, or Captain James Tiberius Kirk!?!?

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    • ataxia162
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:58pm

      The American people have always had the right to own guns. I have started a list of politicians who favor gun control at http://www.votethemouttoday.com/candidates7.html
      I need help with the list so if anyone knows more please submit them with a link to an article or something to prove it

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    • RLTW
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 12:58am

      All blazers should read “Out of the Ashes” William Johonstone, great release pulp fiction and hits the head on the gun grab.

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    • republitarian
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 3:33am

      @Bluesrat, great link! Thanks.

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    • beksma
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 3:38am

      Amen!

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    • walkwithme1966
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:42am

      Nobody is coming after your guns – I have been hearing that fear for years and it has not happened yet!! And this is not a right or left issues – stop putting the blame on the progressives – this is a problem with a very disturbed young man who probably did not understand much about the political discourse. But putting the blame on the left or right has got to stop – today – right here! http://wp.me/pYLB7-v9

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    • GOTT-EM-MAUSER
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:24pm

      WALK,

      In a wierd sort of way you’re right. This is not just a Right or Left alternative situtation. THIS IS, a FREEMEN VERSUS SLAVERS. Translation, We the People Versus the Gov-Bots of all stripes, that want the rest of us to keep on working so they don’t have to. Sorry but the Gov-Bots are mostly of the Leftist/Progressive/Marxist/Communist persuasion, but there are also a fair number of Republicans etal that are on that bandwagon. HE WHO seeks to LIMIT my GOD GIVEN RIGHT to arms in my own self defense, does so for one reason ONLY. To better exercise his CONTROL over me, to facilitate his THEIVERY of what is not his, but mine.

      We have over 20,000 various Gun Laws in this country. NONE is, was, nor ever will be INTENDED to solve the CRIME PROBLEM nor SAVE LIVES. ALL have but ONE INTENT, and that is to render the producers subserviant to the Will of the Government Masters.

      Bottom Line, there are many, many, many, folks out here that have had a belly full of the GUN LAW GARBAGE and those that continue to PUSH it. We have now reached the proverbial point known as when PUSH comes to SHOVE, this weekend was the beginning of the Second American Civil War. The PUSHERS can go right ahead and keep PUSHING, and they will ALL get something SHOVED, right where they really, really, don’t want it.

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    • chickenbig
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 12:25pm

      The left uses the 1st. ammendment to attack the 1st. and 2nd. ammendment…WTf is wrong with this picture ?

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  • fertlmind
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:59pm

    If they steal our gun rights,…the terrorist win.

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    • Lucifers Hammer
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:40pm

      Progressives are the terrorists! The left wing-nuts have been fomenting anger and hatred continually in recent months and weeks. They have been trying to get another lunatic communist like the shooter to strike. See their first reaction. Limit freedom of speech and the right to protect one’s own life….but only for civilians. They will not be effected. Just like all the elites who have armed bodyguards or carry their own handguns for protection. It is just the sheeple who must be left to slaughter at the hands of criminals.

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    • wildjoker5
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:26pm

      The lady who was shot is a 2nd right proponent, bet she still will be. Way to besmirch her legacy with using the tragedy against her to outlaw what she stood for.

      The citizen without a means to protect themselves from the government is a SLAVE. – Thomas Jefferson.

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    • Lord_Frostwind
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 3:17am

      You know what the most painfully ironic piece is, these are probably the same dumpkofs who just three years ago would say “Oh that’s always what the right says when they want to take your freedoms away.” and now, there is only the sound of silence when people suggest taking our rights away. I can’t figure out whether to laugh or cry.

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  • dwh320
    Posted on January 9, 2011 at 9:57pm

    Just another tragic event the Progressives will exploit for political gain.

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    • UNITEDWESTAND
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:02pm

      Never let a crisis go to waste.

       
    • TruthTalker
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:09pm

      And so it begins…

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    • GBMBulletsSKNRD
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:11pm

      You can take my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hand.

       
    • underdawg
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:15pm

      Notice that not only are they going after the second amendment but the first as well. Why didn’t they try to outlaw commercial airlines after 911?

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:17pm

      It sounds like he bought the gun legally, isn’t that right? To a deranged mind, who knows how he/she will twist the simplest of statements to fit the agenda rolling around in their sick minds. This is ridiculous legislation. What triggered the Kennedy assassinaions, the attempts on Nixon, Gerald Ford, and Ronald Reagan? These were twisted minds just as suicide bombers are twisted and easily manipulated by others. Pray for our country.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:18pm

      As far as symbols go, lets start with that Hope/Change symbol and the DNCs new symbol. It angers me when I see them, thus, hate imagery. Maybe McCarthy needs to talk to Piven first about her hateful rhetoric and call for violence.

      Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra  
    • shorthanded12
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:18pm

      Just like I said in an earlier post, when ever theres a tragic event the first things out of lawmakers mouth is ‘WE NEED MORE REGULATIONS AND LAWS” There pre-programed and predictable!!!!
      There doing a fine job (-) $14,000,000,000,000.00 “D E B T” way to go, more laws @ taxpayers expense.

       
    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:19pm

      Also, when is she going to target the New Black Panthers, “I hate crackers, with every Iota“ ”Kill those ******* babies” Just saying.

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    • Sam I am
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:20pm

      Cue the clowns.

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    • CYCLONE
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:21pm

      here is my symbol ..I..

       
    • dwh320
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:27pm

      All the evidence presented to the public so far shows that this nut case who shot the congresswomen was a extrema liberal who loved books like The Communist Manifesto.

      BUT DON’T ALLOW FACTS TO GET IN THE WAY !!!

      Progressive Democrats are eager to blame conservatives for the evils that the Progressive Socialist agenda has fostered and caused to prosper. But they always blame others. They never can accept the responsibility for the harm their actions and beliefs cause mankind.

      They will use it to attack the frame work of our nation and destroy liberties and rights of the American people such as free speech and the right to bare arms. They will lie and do anything to further their Progressive Socialist agenda.

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:28pm

      The depravity of the left has no limit. To use a tragedy politically is the lowest a person could possibly sink. To not understand this is a real sign of mental illness. Liberalism is after all, a mental disorder. What we need are gun laws preventing unstable liberals from owning guns. Haven’t all of the recent tragedies been committed by psychotic liberals? Seems like the guy that flew into the IRS building, the woman in Boston, FT Hood etc etc etc …

      CultureWarriors  
    • Workforit
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:28pm

      No doubt! To say nothing of a failed FBI background check… It‘s just another example to show you what the government can and CAN’T do. I had to address a five year old parking ticket when I purchased a hand gun… And this kid had misdemeanors? Not to Mention being 22… Leave it to the good old government run FBI to screw up an already unworkable gun control debacle. News flash! Americans have guns, some Americans are not stable enough to have guns and I guarantee you those Americans will always find a way to get a gun banned or not. The answer here is swift and un-yielding Justice. There a to many people that witnessed this tragedy, he said himself he planned it so why don’t we just save the taxpayers of few years of free meals and appeals attorneys fees and shut this guys lights off like tomorrow! An example of strength and unwillingness to accept this type of behavior… Don’t think about banning guns DC, think about swift justice for one of your own.

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    • silveracer44
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:31pm

      This provides the ‘opportunity’ to:
      - Further divide the left and right by the state controlled media
      - ‘Justify’ moving the TSA to ‘soft targets’ as reported a couple weeks ago
      - End Sarah Palin’s candidacy before it begins because of how it has been spun
      - Enact gun-grabbing laws
      - Demonize speech opposing the establishment
      - Enact ‘Internet ID’s’ through regulation as reported by Fox News and others.

      An eye witness to the shooting reported it was all over in about 8 – 10 seconds. In that time he shot 20 people.

      Out of those 20 six died. These were well placed shots considering the amount of time before he started to reload (and was taken down). Especially considering how quickly the crowd would try to scatter after the first one or two shots fired. At least one of the victims was shot multiple times (reportedly 4 times) meaning that leaves 27 rounds remaining for the other 19 victims. He was reportedly using a 9 mm glock with an extended clip of 31 rounds. That‘s some damn good shooting especially if that was his first ’real life’ experience firing at people.

      In only 10 seconds:
      - 31 shots fired
      - 20 victims hit, 6 fatally hit

      Yet he never served in the military and was rejected by the Army for service.

      Also, why was this guy‘s facebook and myspace ’taken down’ as soon his name was released? Yet not his youtube?? Speaking of youtube, I’m a little bit surprise no videos of this taken by a cell phone or something have surfaced yet.

      And apparently the cleared the 2nd man earlier today – the ‘person of interest.’ Did anyone hear the details on that? Did they report that they identified who he was? Or why he was a person of interest? Or if they even talked to him? Or any other reason they would ‘clear’ his name?

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    • booger71
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:37pm

      “worship gun ownership do no service to humanity.”

      I guess she doesn’t care for the Bill of Rights

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    • butchcoolidge
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:38pm

      Thank God the house is in the hands of 2nd amendment friends, or they would be coming for them tomorrow.

       
    • FlatFoot
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:38pm

      Politics, n: {Poli “many” + tics “blood-sucking parasites”}

      Democrats have defined politics as the art of looking for trouble, finding it (whether it exists or not), diagnosing it completely incorrectly, and then applying the entirely wrong remedy. They‘ll use this tragedy to punish everyone in this country for the act of a sole deranged lunatic and seize upon the voracity of that sole deranged lunatic’s actions to even further disregard the US Constitution as some archaic writings of ancient men, and to clench their stranglehold on us ever tighter.

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    • hifi74
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:38pm

      If these pass how soon will it be before it is considered hateful and a crime because you voice your displeasure and disagreement with a government official? Is no one asking these questions?

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:40pm

      So if I drew a cartoon of Mr Brady standing and a pig flying over him dropping a load of crap labled Brady bill(as I figure that is what his bill is).
      Would that be a threat?
      Who would make that call?
      Lastly- Would the makers of the Democrats target map for Bush qualify or is it only for Sara Palin?

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    • *************************
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:46pm

      “Congress Reacts: Dems Propose Gun Restrictions & Ban on ‘Threatening Language or Symbols’”

      THERE IT IS, PEOPLE. (Notice there is no Constitutional authority to do ANY of this. And, in fact, the Constitution is AGAINST these “solutions”.)

      The Left in the ground foment violence and, if none happens from their political opponents, they provide it themselves. That’s called BOTTOM UP.
      Then The Left in government offer their emergency solution for it. That’s called TOP DOWN.
      (cue “The Sting” music)

      HEDLEY LAMARR: “Maybe I could turn this thing into my advantage … if I could find a sheriff who so offends the citizens of Rock Ridge that his very appearance would drive them out of town.”
      HEDLEY LAMARR [looking into space, in the direction of the audience]: “But where would I find such a man?”
      HEDLEY LAMARR [looking at the audience]: “Why am I asking you?
      -Blazing Saddles

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:47pm

      Does this mean that they would be in favor of restrictions on Muslims flying?

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    • silveracer44
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:48pm

      Also, why was the Representative‘s youtube account subscribed to the shooter’s? It was one of only two subscriptions her account was subscribed to.

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    • Evil_24E
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:48pm

      This is just what the progressives have been praying for. It seems custom made for their cause.
      They will try and use every angle to fit the agenda, while shedding crocodile tears at the true tragadey here.

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    • AlaskaRick
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:50pm

      Typical……..

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    • click4cheapandeasyweb
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:55pm

      “Rep. Carolyn Maloney exclaimed that “guns kill” and that “those who glamorize gunplay or worship gun ownership do no service to humanity.”

      Washington D.C. has the toughest gun laws in the entire country. Last week 7 people were gunned down to their deaths in that anti-gun city. Yearly, D.C. comes somewhere in the top 5 of “most gun homicides” American cities. It’s darn near impossible for a law-abidng citizen to own a gun in D.C. unless you are FBI, CIA, SS, POLICE, etc. But criminals own multiple firearms. Go figure!?

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    • USAMama
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 10:59pm

      @ HIFI74: My thoughts exactly, who determines what’s “offensive” or “threatening”? Remember that congressman who attacked the student physically simply for asking him if he supported Obamas agenda? What if the conressman said he felt “threatend” by that student? What about Pelosi whipping up fake tears over the “rhetoric” reminding her of the ‘60’s? That’s all it would take to get people arrested!

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    • gedunk
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:15pm

      the Leftists are trying the best they can to lay the groundwork for gun control AND for ways to get rid of FOX News and Limbaugh. They cannot impose Socialism while Americans have guns.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:22pm

      Just wanted to mention that Geraldo had the sheriff from Pima County on his program this evening and when he introduced him, he introduced him as the “Sheriff of Pima County and Somewhat Controversial Officer in Charge”…Controversial, REALLY? GUESS HE MUST H AVE GOTTEN THE MESSAGE! He is a disgrace…it is frightening to know that someone can live to be as old as that man is (in his 70′s) and hasn’t a lick of common sense! Just so you know, Pima County was one of two very instrumental districts responsible for “Legalizing ”Medical“ Marijuana” in this state…making an embarrassment of our once great state…I believe that it speaks VOLUMES about those who also keep electing this idiot into office…

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    • Kaen
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:30pm

      Oh yeah…and I’m afraid of the Socialist/Marxist/Democrat pigs in this country and the effect they are having on our freedom…can we please pass ledgislation to ban them as well?

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    • oldoldtimer
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:33pm

      The Dems and Obama are going to use this as an excuse to take guns and to control the internet. Muller_FBI is already blaming it on the freedom of the internet and calling for restrictions. MSM across the beoard is blaming evry one byt the far left for the madness of one person. If you think the Patriot Act was a power grab just watch the outcome of this.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:36pm

      Yes, this is an old chain mail. But it expresses my thoughts pretty well.

      Why I Carry a Gun

      My old grandpa said to me son,‘ there comes a time in every man’s life
      when he stops bustin‘ knuckles and starts bustin’ caps and usually it’s
      when he becomes too old to take an ass whoopin’.
      I don’t carry a gun to kill people.
      I carry a gun to keep from being killed.

      I don’t carry a gun to scare people.
      I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.

      I don‘t carry a gun because I’m paranoid.
      I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.

      I don‘t carry a gun because I’m evil.
      I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the
      world.

      I don’t carry a gun because I hate the government.
      I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.

      I don‘t carry a gun because I’m angry.
      I carry a gun so that I don’t have to spend the rest of my life hating
      myself for failing to be prepared.

      I don’t carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.
      I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and
      not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.

      I don‘t carry a gun because I’m a cowboy.
      I carry a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a
      cowboy.

      I don’t carry a gun to make me feel like a man.
      I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the
      ones they love.

      I don’t carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
      I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am
      inadequate.

      I don’t carry a gun because I love it.
      I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful
      to me.

      Police Protection is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves.
      Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the
      crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.

      Personally, I carry a gun because I’m too young to die and too old to
      take an ass whoopin’.

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    • oldoldtimer
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:38pm

      They will use this to gut free speech from the constitution. Once they control the internet free speech is dead. You already know all you get from MSM is the progressive propaganda. They will blame this on any one that opposes their agenda.

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    • Mikeyyy
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:42pm

      Wow, never let a tragedy go to waste so that you can further your control on the masses!!

      if they can control these three things, they can control the masses, and stay in power:
      1. Gun Control
      2. First Amendment to brain wash with their own propaganda – Net Neutrality is a crucial issue
      3. Religion

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    • SHASTADIANE1
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:45pm

      The “person of interest” they were showing from the survelience video was a cab driver, who had just happened to come into the store about the same time…he was there to get change. A least this is what was reported on Fox News.

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:45pm

      Don’t think we need to fear about our guns…

      Just ask GBMBulletsSKNRD… “You can take my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hand”

      .but…I believe the “hate police” will see to it that they circumvent Congress altogether…I‘d bet we don’t even get so much as a “nudge” on the free speech issue…more like a “TOP DOWN”, “gotcha” type event!

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:52pm

      “Democracy triumphs.”

      We are not a Democracy, but a Republic.

      “The fundamental wisdom that has long distinguished our nation and has led her to greatness resides in our unwavering commitment to settle our differences with ballots, not bullets,”

      The fundamental wisdom in settling our differences with ballot boxes is based on our elected officials’ commitment to the Constitution. We do not elect rulers, but representatives who must take an oath to the Constitution. The Constitution is the supreme law of the land, not the government or the courts.

      When elected officials break their oath to the constitution, it is the elected officials who have abandoned the rule of law. And when the Executive Branch believes they must enforce laws which are unConstitutional, then it is they who are foregoing the ballot box.

      “While it is too early to come to any conclusions about the causes or consequences of yesterday’s tragic events, it is never too late to reflect on lessons we have learned from earlier such tragedies, and take them to heart.”

      If it’s never too late to reflect on lessons we have learned from earlier, then let us learn from the past tragedies of Socialist, Marixist, and Communist regimes, in which hundreds of thousands have died in the name of “collectivism”.

      The Second Amendment applies. If you try to take my freedom of speech, I’ll kill you.

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:52pm

      come to the woods in florida and get mine……not

       
    • Rational Man
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:53pm

      “Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence.”
      George Washington.

      “Arms in the hands of individual citizens may be used at individual discretion…in private self-defense.”
      John Adams, A Defense of the Constitutions (1787-88).

      “The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.”
      Samuel Adams, during Massachusetts’ U.S. Constitution Ratification Convention (1788).

      “The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation…(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.”
      James Madison, The Federalist #46.

      “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”
      Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution (1776), Jefferson Papers 344 (J. Boyd, ed. 1950).

      “The great object is, that every man be armed…Everyone who is able may have a gun…”
      Patrick Henry, 3 Elliott Debates 386.

      “Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them.”
      Thomas Paine, Thoughts on Defensive War (1775).

      “Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.”
      Patrick Henry, during Virginia’s ratification convention (1788).

      “To disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them…”
      George Mason, 3 Elliott Debates (on the Constitution) 380.

      “The right of having and using arms for self-preservation and defense is justly called the primary law of nature, so it is not, neither can it be in fact, taken away by the law of society.”
      Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England.

      “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America can not enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States.”
      Noah Webster, An Examination Into the Leading Principals of the Federal Constitution (1787).

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    • Christs_Patriot
      Posted on January 9, 2011 at 11:55pm

      This response from the left is as predicable at the next tick of the clock. IF ANY representatives in D.C. had ANY BACKBONE they would be saying something like this “We need to encourage more law abiding citizens to arm themselves to defend all against madmen like this!” Think about it, if law abiding Americans were allowed to exercise their rights to keep and bear arms even on airliners (with proper low velocity ammo of course) wouldn’t that solve the “problem” we are sacrificing our rights to overcome? IF we applied and embraced our rights rather than surrendering them we would all be better off over night. OH SORRY…I was thinking like a free individual there for a minute…

       
    • Tea Party Conservatism
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 12:04am

      Progressive socialist Democratic mindset:

      Threatening Language = United States Constitution
      Threatening Symbol = United States Flag
      Gun Restrictions = all your firearms, none of ours

      The assassin got off over 30 rounds and was in the process of loading another clip. Had properly armed citizens been nearby, he wouldn’t have even dared to brandish a weapon.

      It’s really not that we think Progressive socialist Democrats will actually behave like Hitler if freedom loving Americans are ever foolish enough to surrender their Constitutional right to bare arms; we think you will act like your heroes Stalin and Mao, who each had far more innocent people killed than ever Hitler did.

      “In matters of power let no more be heard of the confidence in man but bind them down from mischief by the chains of the constitution.” Thomas Jefferson

      “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln

      Why Obama is ineligible – regardless of his birthplace
      By Leo C. Donofrio, Esq.
      http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134881

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    • Quad-rip-legic
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 12:14am

      Term limits, term limits, term limits! I wonder which politician will be first to demand a pope mobile. Just remember that a lot of these jackass politicians are just trying to stir people up and escalate the situation. They lash out at the innocent because they have pacified most of the population into following their lead. Sheepeople need to put down the Kool-Aid, take off the blinders and wake the hell up! I know it’s virtually impossible, but do your best not to get angry or depressed to the point that you’re not thinking clearly. Wake up and wake up as many Sheepeople as you can then get wise to their ways and replaces many as we can during each election.

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    • joseph Fawcett
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 12:17am

      I say give everyone guns and maybe this would not have happened at all.

      http://www.josephfawcettart.com please pray for my brother who is dying, had a massive heart attack and contracted H1N1, Thanks!

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    • Jsh1284
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 12:19am

      Here’s how I feel aout gun control!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHWd62DCzZU – by the great HICKOK45!

      This is supreme BS. They won‘t be taking my guns while I’m breathing, that’s for sure! I purchased my firearms legally, went through a background check via the FBI and also went through a county background check for my CCW license. If that isn’t enough, I don’t know what is!

      Alas, they can’t truly control us until they take our guns completely. Once they do, we’re completely screwed in the rear. Then, this country is no longer a republic. In such a scenario we are now a dictatorship ..

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    • BMartin1776
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 2:05am

      Just as myself and countless others have warned “all they need is an event to lock the country down” this could very well be it! Point the finger of blame at the left like Jones and Piven they were calling for this and demand they take responsibility. This is not a reason to go after guns, gun owners etc this should be the time to go after those calling for violence!

      Take the gloves off the game is over. The battle lines are now being drawn it is becoming clear this battle we are in is just one within a war against the radicals. Bring it to their front door through http://www.savingtherepublic.com

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 2:11am

      Idiot Democrats. They are our biggest and most dangerous threat.

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    • CatB
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 2:49am

      So out of RESPECT the House delays the vote on repeal of Obamacare .. and then the DEMS Want to nulifiy the 1st and 2nd ammendments ? Where is their RESPECT for the dead and injured!

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    • IVillageIdiot
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 3:48am

      This is going to “backfire” (assuming the intent is honest, which is doubtful), if they get this law or one like that being proposed, where “threatening language” or “symbology” is outlawed, THREE brand new problems are going to occur.

      #1. (the worst item) Those with the problem (a real problem) may learn NOT TO SAY ANYTHING….. then,… we’ll HAVE NO IDEA WHO THEY ARE?!?!?!?!?! Apparently a great many people KNEW this guy was a problem, or was going to be a problem at some point. AT LEAST YOU KNEW…… image if you were in this guy’s algebra class, you KNEW he had a screw loose, you had a chance to watching him, stay clear of him, you might have a chance to take another class, or just leave when he showed up… HELLO?!?!?!? But you’d of had a chance… BECAUSE YOU KNEW! What happens if you create a law that this type learns to keep quite and to fade in to stay out of trouble UNTIL ONE DAY HE EXPLODES???? You NEVER had a chance! In a way, YOU WANT THEM TO SAY WHAT’S ON THEIR MINDS…. so YOU can hear and judge. This law will backfire for sure, it’s ill-founded if it’s an honest effort.

      If it’s NOT HONEST, as I suspect…. Reason #2 and #3 also apply.

      #2. The various flags Lefty doesn’t like, the Gadsden, the US Flag, the Bonnie Blue, the Reb Battle flag, the Christian flag, and ANYTHING ELSE THEY DON’T LIKE…. will be use to persecute those who fly them…. FOR THE PURPOSE OF PERSECUTING THEM…. (no doubt)!!!!. Thusly, creating NEW violence and yet more carnage. They’ll be Ok with that of course, as those confronting and those defending are BOTH groups they despise and would love to see come to harm and resultant reductions.

      #3. Both definitions will NO DOUBT creep, and become larger over time engulfing innocents that Lefty would like to target in the future. Just like all the previous efforts (Endangered Specie, etc, etc, etc) in this regard, it will sound oh-so-reasonable to start with, but over time it will morph and be used for nefarious ends. Symbols and language we don’t even use at this moment, once they understand WHO… is using them, will eventually be targeted in order to muzzle and target those selected for reduction and muzzling. It’ll become a new and fertile ground for their scheming!

      THIS… is a really, really, really…. bad idea….

      -IVI

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 4:28am

      Ban free speech & guns because one of the elite got shot. Where is their outrage when Americans are killed by illegals?!?!? Their Libturd reaction was to come up with the Dream Act……..

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    • River0
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 6:28am

      This happened because of the invasion of illegals. Arizona’s – and the feds’ – lack of diligence regarding the border allowed this psychotic creep to walk around loose because so many resources were going to illegals. A decade or two ago, Loughner would have been hospitalized for his own protection.

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    • ButchP
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 6:52am

      They describe him as a “pot smoking loner”, will they go after pot and loners with the same enthusiasm?

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    • Dont Drink Cool Aid
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 6:57am

      And once everyone realizes that guns don’t kill, it’s people that kill, then the rhetoric will stop. It’s tragic to think that everyone in the country will suffer for one lunatics actions. Which begs the questions: where were the parents? why didn’t the school/teachers take compassionate action to help “the children?” Deep down, i believe we and especailly the liberals know, this guy was they type of person easily maniuplated by radicals.

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    • byehlik
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 7:01am

      So, the gun grab begins. Predictable. Be Prepaired!

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    • chazman
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:21am

      We must deal with a pack of jackasses … one day it will end.

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    • Marcobob69
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:23am

      Better stow your guns and ammo away cause that is the next thing the FEDS will be regulating!! UNITEDWESTAND has got it right, “Never let a crisis go to waste”, and you better believe the progressives will be in high gear on this “crisis”! If you think for a moment the rhetoric will ease up from the left, you have been living with your head in the sand for the last two years. Just listen to the stuff coming from the lame stream media and you will understand what I mean. I applaud the coverage of this tragedy on Saturday, but all day Sunday too? Must be the rest of the news in the world stopped because of this story, I didn’t hear any other stories or items on ANY of the news outlets. I feel for the parents of the little Green girl, but did they really have to interview them less the 24 hours after the shooting? I personally could have waited a few days to hear from them, or any other victims family members.

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    • Wiz001
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:25am

      This would not have been so tragic had it been a conserative politician… I say that because there would have been severaL guns in the croud and the shooter would have been tackeled after one shot instead of the chicken liberals hiding.. I just saw an interview with a young man who was in the Walgreens store when he hear gun shotts.. He is a CCW (carry conceled wepons) member and instead of hiding he went charging out to see if he could help.. He did not go gun in hand but 1 assesed the situation and then took action like we are trained to do.. It is not the wepon that kills it is the person behind it and if MORE peop-le were trained properly this would be a thing of the past..EDUCATION is the kry to solving any problem NOT MORE STUPID LAWS TO HAVE BROKEN!!!!!!! I NEVER leave home with out it!!!

      God Bless Our Troops…

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    • Highland
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:33am

      Never let a crisis go to waste, and no matter what, clamp down even tighter on the First and Second Amendments.

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    • walkwithme1966
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:39am

      Stop it – the Progressives are not going to do anything – this is not a right or a left issue unless you make it into one. http://wp.me/pYLB7-v9

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:46am

      More cheap shots from the Dems. They want to ban guns and be able to “interpret” anything negative said by anyone as a threat against them. That way they can live in their own little delusional world without ever hearing anything negative said about them. Somehow that sounds to me like a dictatorship in the style of Chavez.

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:49am

      Throw the rascals out! http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • heavyduty
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:58am

      If we are not to make this tragedy political then why are the Dems always politicizing it? You don’t hear the Republicans spouting about gun control. But all the left media does is talk about the political views. All this is a man that didn’t like the ideas of Giffords agenda. Hopefully something good will come out of this, and its not gun control.

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    • SHOESHINEBOY
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:58am

      So..to answer the actions of one who is acting on fears that Government is using mind control by forcing more Governemt Contorl, and restrictions..

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    • suttonea76
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:03am

      Gee, I feel my knee jerking right now…oops, that’s a liberal saying guns kill people and that we need to have even more useless legislation. Soon liberals will be saying that cops should only carry whistles and use stern, harsh language to stop law breakers. These are the same idiots who will arrest you for killing a bald eagle but will defend your right to abort your baby.

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    • easyed598
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:07am

      Ban on strong Rhetoric??- Perhaps we should start with the President–Where’s that toxic rhetoric coming from? Let’s not make a false pretense of balance: it’s coming, overwhelmingly, from the right,” Krugman asserts. Oh, really? How about the Democrat President? At various times during his Administration, Barack Obama has said the following:

      If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun. – June 2008.

      I want you to go out and talk to your neighbors… I want you to argue with them, get in their faces. – September 2008.

      I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry. I’m angry. – March 2009.

      If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, “We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,” if they don’t see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it’s gonna be harder, and that’s why I think it’s so important that people focus on November 2. – October 2010.

      So none of that rhetoric contributes to the “climate of hate?” How about Florida Democrat Alan Grayson condemning his opponent as a “religious fanatic” and calling him “Taliban Dan Webster?” What about when Democrat James Clyburn of South Carolina falsely accused Tea Party members of hurling racial epithets at him? Do you suppose the heavily deployed Democrat meme of insinuating voters were stupid for acting against them in the midterm elections might have generated some anger?

      Shall we step into the minor leagues, and talk about New Hampshire state house candidate Keith Halloran, who responded to the plane crash that killed Alaska Senator Ted Stevens by wishing Sarah Palin was on board? Another New Hampshire Democrat, Timothy Horrigan, was forced to quit the state legislature for saying “A dead Palin would be more dangerous than a live one” and “if she was dead, she couldn’t commit any more gaffes.” If that’s not good enough, we could take a step back into the fetid swamps of Bush hatred, when liberals actually made movies about assassinating him.

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    • Docrow
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:08am

      @ GBMBULLETSSKNRD

      ditto!

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    • happyboy
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:13am

      GUN RESTRICTIONS? ISN’t THIS SOMETHING DEMOCRATS WOULD PROPOSE WHILE THE BODIES ARE STILL WARM.

      The Democrats planned and carried out this Safeway Massecure. Instead of demanding an investigation, these Marxist Democrats want to tear up our Constitution. We will not fall for their assasination tricks anymore. Democrats must be investigated concerning this assasination and others that they have benifited from.

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    • pscully17
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:44am

      If we lose our right to possess a gun, we lose democracy!! Look around the world, what kind of oppressive totalitarian governments rule societies without guns? Kim Jong il, Armedinjad, Chavez, Castro– if we lose guns, we lose our free speech! the only thing left that is protecting our freedom of speech, our ability to think, to challenge, to innovate, to be FREE is our gun!! The left wing radicals IN POWER, will push the violence when they try to force gunlaws! they are not thinking rationally when they try to do this. Just read the READERS COMMENTS after the shooting atricles on the NY times and the Huffington post– you tell me who the vitriolic insane faction of this country are.

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    • SLEUTH
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:49am

      FLIP FLOPPING HIPPOCRITES, the left,MSM
      read for youself
      Journalists urged caution after Ft. Hood, now race to blame Palin after Arizona shootings

      http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/01/journalists-urged-caution-after-ft-hood-now-race-blame-palin-afte

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    • Manny NC
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 10:08am

      For anyone that does not know, Mexico has GUN CONTROL, and please read the news…
      Only the bad guys have them.
      Please do not take them away from WE THE PEOPLE

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    • Reagan/DeMint.disciple
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 10:13am

      Course if they are serious.. You know who is going straight to jail ? Van Jones, J.Wright, AL not so Sharpton , Francis Fox Piven and hubby, Malik Shabazz and the crazed white baby killer guy , I can go on and on but you get the point… I think they better rethink this, because there is a lot more hate speech coming from the left then there EVER was from the right..

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    • Sevens
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 10:21am

      Its another Knee Jerk reaction from the lefty’s and those ignorant to think that guns are the problem.. Oh and wait the first the thing communists/socialist want is to remove our 2ond amendment so that we will be easier to manage us like cattle. Then only they (police, feds, controll freaks and the like) will have the guns.Don’t fall for it and even if the Govt passed laws to take away our guns it is our duty to fight against this. Anyway, take away my guns and you take away protections for your freedom of speech. It is my opinion that those who want our guns want to destroy our country and they should be the ones watched carefully and countered when they speak.
      I would like to see more commentary from the middle right when these freaks from the middle left speak against our constitution. They should be the ones who are belittled not those who advocate keeping our rights in check. Got a problem with my post email me at Sevenators7@gmail.com

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    • ilovethiscountry
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 10:30am

      Yes never let a crisis go to waste. If you can’t put sites on a map(crosshairs are sites), Then you can’t say we have our sites set on taking ———- in 2012.” Our speech will get so restrictive that we will not be able to open our mouths. As for more gun control, although he was so crazy, he was able to plan well. He would have had no trouble getting ahold of an illegan weapon.

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    • StonyBurk
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:02am

      Send the mere politician a copy of the speech given by a Patriot Robert Charles Winthrop(1809-1894 ) given in Boston May 28,1849 The Bible or the Bayonet.”Glenn Beck would do well to read the excerpt pp701-702 notes 217& 218 Americas’ God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations. on air. What Winthrop said there reflects what Noah Webster wrote in his Translation of the Bible,1833 see pp679-680 same work. congress /indeed our entire government has willfully divorced itself from the Foundational Principles of Religion (Christianity) and Morality. The Dec.6 Congressional Prayer Caucus letter to President Obama suggesting he violated such could have cited President Washington Sept.19,1796 ,or the Northwest Ordinance, As fundamental law naming those same principles as necessary for good government. They could have cited the sermon by Elizer Goodrich May 10,1787 (see Ellis Sandoz Political Sermons of the American Founding Era 1730- 1805 vol.I p.915.Point is our government is now divorced from the foundations and the political house is unsafe.
      All they have now is the Bayonet. ANd heartfelt but meaningless cries for less vitriol.

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    • FreeMan5771
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:20am

      I agree with HAPPYBOY.

      Shot in the head and still alive? CNN and MSNBC full of “experts” claiming how this is possible. Now the Democrats want to take our guns and abolish free speech while Gifford is recovering in a “medically induced coma.” Hmmm. Sounds like this was planned by the Global Elitists.

      I bet in a month or two, Gifford will be all over CNN and MSNBC calling for gun bans and an end to “hateful speech” against public officials. See, the rest of the plan is to create enough chaos that they declare martial law in the USA and then turn on the Socialist / Communist NWO that has been coming. They know that almost everyone completely disagrees with it and does not want this for the U.S. They fear for their lives. They know their lives will all be in jeopardy if they try to finalize this plan with an armed citizenry.

      So, this was all about “the ends justifying the means.” Those means in this case is making hate speech illegal and getting your guns as an added bonus.. In other words they want it to where you can‘t speak out against the government and that you can’t have guns. Then Gifford, and those like her, can fly on private planes all around the world high fiving each other about how they duped the stupid morons of the world with this climate change crap.

      Is there climate change? Sort of? Started in 1993 when they turned on HAARP Project in Alaska. I would love to see all climate data on record through 1992 and compare it to all climate data from 1993 forward. The global elite have spent trillions to dupe us into accepting our own slavery. NEVER.

      The NWO will not work. You can’t just co-opt the Freemasons and think you can “bridge the divide” between the Muslim and Western worlds. Its not working out so well in Europe and it will work even less well in the US. The Pope isn’t some divine entity that can bring it all together either. It simply will not work.

      A 9-year-old girl was killed Sunday. All for something that will not work. Do not fall for this. Everything is planned. All that’s left is an excuse to call for martial law in the US and then there will be a dozen National Guard storming your houses to get your guns…remember Katrina and New Orleans. It was a test run. They did it, and they will do it again. If you shoot one coming for your guns, the other eleven will kill you on the spot. This is what it is coming to. Congress will all be locked safely away or at a climate summit somewhere while this is going on. Denver perhaps?

      This country needs to hold together until January 2013 when we can get more like minded individuals into congress and hopefully a Ronald Reagan type as our president. The left will do anything and say anything to get you to lash out now. Their plan now will be to stir up the violence so enough elected Republicans will be scared enough to go along with gun bans and limitations on speech. That likely will not happen so they will use regulatory measures, using the FCC to regulate what is said on television and posted to the Internet, and Homeland Security will act like the KGB Agents did and just declare you a terrorist and threat to the government if you dare say the wrong thing about a “federal employee.”

      Now is the time to let everyone know what is going on in any way you can. Do not resort to violence. I hope and prey this country holds together for another two years without being further damaged.

      If the Republicans waiver on any of these things, including the border issues again, its time to just form a third party that is strong and forget about the D‘s and R’s altogether. Maybe we can hi-jack the Republicans like the progressives hijacked the Democrats. Maybe we can bring forward some of our own and call them Republicans. “Progressive-Lite” is still Progressive and America does not want the NWO that is being progressed toward.

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    • 1minuteman
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:49am

      absolutely right. they look for things like this to push their agenda. its hard to take over a country unless you disarm it first.

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    • 7.62AirMailComeGetIt
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:52am

      You Think You Know?
      FOUNDING FATHERS WERE AGAINST DEMOCRACY

      The Founding Fathers Were Against Democracy Because It Was Really Anarchy In Disguise; They Chose System of Governmental Control.

      When the United States was born, the Founding Fathers were adamantly against democracy and sought to establish a republic. Their goal was to create a nation that would be strong, upstanding and committed to a fair deal for its entire population.

      They were even in many respects opposed to democracy as the following quote attests. ‘A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51 percent of the people may take away the rights of the other 49. ‘

      – Thomas Jefferson, third President of the United States, author of the Bill of Rights.

      The Founding Fathers looked high and wide for the most reasonable system to put in place for the new country that was to become the United States.

      But they found in history only reasons to avoid democracy, at least in its literal sense, as one of the worst forms of government ever to be attempted. It is for this reason that the United States Constitution does not refer to a democracy.

      What it does say is that the United States should guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government.

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    • Dandylyon
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 12:03pm

      This is how only 22% of a country take it over,Disarm the people trash the constatution and remove free speech.What do you do??Stand around and wait for it to happen I guess.OR Unite,Demonstrate and Recall.We still have the right to recall and impeach but won‘t if we just stand around with our mouth’s open in awwwww at what 22% of the population is doing to America.
      I have always wondered what it would take for the other78% to take back this country peacefully while we still can,but it seem’s to me there is nothing at this point….sad!

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    • 7.62AirMailComeGetIt
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 12:33pm

      LIBERAL / PROGRESSIVE —– MIND FRAME

      Blame, lie, lie some more, blame again, and if that does not work play the race card

      your all the same

      Hate FACTS….. TRUTH to you is like ACID. FLAG ALL TRUTH…

      FACTS to a PROGRESSIVE are like COMMON SENSE they want NO PART OF IT

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    • NeoFan
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 3:42pm

      The best protection we can give to our public servants is to do everything we can to reduce their value as targets of the angry and insane. This can be accomplished by returning to the constitution and making our federal government small and powerless over anything other than what it was originally intended to control. We the people must work to reduce the size of the federal government by no less than 98% through legislation by our elected representatives. If the fed only controls the border, patents, defense and a few other basic needs then public servants will cease to be a target for those that would do them harm.

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    • UPSETVET
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 5:19pm

      The Gun ban and or control activist are crawling out from under the rocks. Everytime a shooting happens it’s the same old story, “Ban all guns in America”. The only problem with this is the Constitution, so I guess the first thing that needs to be done by the liberal, progressive, communists
      is to ban the Constitution or just ignore it. That’s what the present administration has been doing for the past two years. Obama believes it’s an “ incomplete document ” and that it’s “ outdated” . He took an oath to obey and protect the Constitution that he has so diligently tried to destroy. He should be tried for treason or be impeached.

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    • Blazergirl
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 5:29pm

      Question? If we were no longer able to bear arms would that mean that our armed forces, police officers,national guard no longer carry fire arms? You can’t protect anyone from mentally ill people. Look at what happened with the police officer‘s kid who took his father’s gun and went on a rampage at his high school. What’s next? Sharp knives? Axes? Fire? Acid? There are a lot of disturbed people out there. Has anyone heard of the 18th amendment? Prohabition. Do you really believe there will never be any guns out there? The black market has always exsisted. Do you really think you can stop people from saying anything bad about any particular group? Really? Forget the government. How are WE suppose to protect ourselves? Words can be just as damaging as guns. How are you suppose to protect yourself if someone maliciously accuses you of saying/doing something against the government? McCarthy falsely accused people of being communist. He ruined lives. Will they take away our “innocent before proven guilty”? Isn’t this what they do in China? Cuba? Soviet Union?Venizulia? God help us all!!!

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    • happyboy
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 7:06pm

      DEMOCRATS MASSECURE 18 PEOPLE AND THEN OFFER A FASHIST SOLUTiON.

      How can these dangerous Democrats get away with their deniel that they are not Fashist? Think of what a wounderful place America would be without Democrats-Marxist?

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    • BlueknightUSA
      Posted on January 10, 2011 at 10:41pm

      Because one one crazed idiot the rest of us will suffer. Any new restrictions will only affect law abiding gun owners…as the current ones do. The left will not let this opportunity pass…“never let a good crisis go to waste”.
      The Obama Admin and the progressives have been dreaming of a scenario like this…they must be wetting themselves.

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    • EP46
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 8:01am

      The AMERICAN FLAG is the only symbol we need….but they allow it to be burned.
      How about instead or worrying about ‘symbols’ you PROTECT MY FLAG

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    • KICKILLEGALSOUT
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 8:11am

      So are they going to ban cars for all the car crash deaths that happen? Are they going to ban Toyota for all the deaths the runaway cars caused?

      Hypocrites!

      You see the problem is that the person doing the shooting was the wrong person. Had it been a Muslim we would have tried to understand the stress he faced in normal life and blamed society for not welcoming him and find a way to put a nice candy coating on the pile of garbage!

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    • mrdbcooper
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 10:08am

      the gun shows will be wall to wall this weekend…it happens every time

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    • chickenbig
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 12:03pm

      @DWH320
      Good show, I agree completely. Everyone please notice that the left has ONLY ONE purpose for firearms, and that is to intimidate and control the population and all that goes with that rut.
      The communist-socialist-progressives like guns for their purpose, mostly to kill their opposition. It appears to this writer that the above mentioned bastards would attempt to restrict OUR 1st. and 2nd ammendment rights in one bite, but not THEIRS. If push comes to shove always remember the protocol…Give Them The Ammunition first.!

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    • happyboy
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 2:53pm

      WITHIN AN HOUR OF MASSECURE REPORTS, DEMOCRATS IN THE WHITE HOUSE HAD PULLED THE FOLDERS OUT OF THEIR CABINETS OUTLINING THEIR ATTACK ON THE GOP.

      The trail that leads back to the White House is being sweept clean because there isn’t any investigation. Where did the Safeway Assasin obtain the $2000 to purchase his Glock in November? Teachers and professors who knew the assasin feared being near him for their lives, yet the Sheriff‘s Office didn’t have a record on him that would prevent this killer from obtaining a firearm.

      This was a planned assasination to help Obama re-capture his polling data after the Nov. disaster.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on January 11, 2011 at 6:40pm

      Good let’s Ban the Pyramid and eye of Horus
      http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Illuminati/dc.htm

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