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Congresswoman: Taxpayers Have an ‘Obligation’ to Fund Abortions

Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill., not only believes that women should be able to choose whether or not to terminate a pregnancy, but also favors a full repeal of  existing federal policy which limits taxpayer funding for abortions.  According to the Illinois Democrat, “there’s no evidence” that  increasing access to abortion services encourages people to get abortions.

CNSNews.com‘s Nichola Ballasy caught up with the congresswoman today during an event on Capitol Hill sponsored by the Center for Reproductive Freedom to ask her about call for the repeal of the Hyde Amendment.  When asked about whether access to abortion may encourage more women to take the drastic step, Rep. Schakowsky replied, “No, there’s no evidence of that around the world, where access to abortion is more available but somehow women are more inclined to get one.”

“What happens is that women who don’t have access resort, as we heard today, to very dangerous, self-inflicted kinds of things in order to end, terminate the pregnancy,” she said. “And so, you know, we go back to back alley abortions. We go back to coat hangers. And, I mean, is that what we want?”

“Women who are desperate enough to do that to themselves are going to somehow – going to try to abort that pregnancy. We don’t want to do that. We don’t want to put women at greater risk.”

Comments (254)

  • MrButcher
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 2:45am

    ok…grrr….the thought and sex police are fighting me, i see….how bout this, abortion is ugly, wrong and, yet, natural. we should make the “morning after pill” (over-the-counter) available for all women who like to screw and don’t want a pregnancy as a result. that way the fetus is expunged from the ****** prior to it actually coming in contact with the uterus and thus, no conception and no abortion. and no baby, whose brains have to be carved out and murdered….. and it ends the way unprotected sex most often does without anyones knowledge.—-soccermom2012, please respond and not report….

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  • BrightLightNCali
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 2:24am

    Is anyone really surprised by this? Most logical conservatives knew the Hyde Amendment would come under attack.

    1. Abortion is killing. Let’s stop using politically correct terms. I have children, ergo, I have been pregnant. There is no doubt in my mind that conception = life. Let’s stop allowing the “PC” terms for abortion to sway people. The terms these people use sound like something clinical, instead of the disrespectful act it is to all the babies that have been murdered and to all the mothers who regret that decision.

    2. Mothers had a choice. The choice was to A) Be abstinent OR B) Use birth control

    3. Sadly, rape happens. Morning after pill do it for you?

    Schakowsky states that some women can’t afford abortions. Huh? “Planned Infanticide,” err.. I mean Planned Parenthood, has no problem helping ANYONE obtain an abortion. Seriously. They wholeheartedly support the redistribution of death.

    This woman is asking me to go against my core values, my faith, my God. Who does she think she is?? For that matter, who do those wanting ME to pay for another woman’s abortion, think they are. Please note. Playing God NEVER ENDS WELL. BTW, don’t get me started on Margaret Sanger!

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 5:57am

      I’m with you. Once one can get past the killing, it becomes an easy decision of convenience for many people, I would guess. I don‘t approve of killing and I don’t approve of abortion, end of story.

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    • rfpzzzzz
      Posted on September 30, 2010 at 12:32pm

      Also , after taking the life of your child, often years later you might sit at a family dinner with nieces and nephews and you are reminded of the one you never got to meet who would have been with the family on that day. At least you should understand beforehand that while the body of the infant has been destroyed their memory can return for years to come.
      To use euphemisms might make the initial act easier to complete but they do no good in the future. The “why” of abortion is easy to understand but it might not end up being the easiest answer later on.

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  • jeffro314
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 2:19am

    just like fetal stem cell research – there is plenty of private and charitable money out there for these issues… no need for public money too… besides we are BROKE! Deficits! debt! we have no money to give to this!

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 2:09am

    we are so sick of these dems we could almost say okay, we’ll fund democrat abortions, cos that’s exactly what it amounts to. because WE American Christians sure do not kill our young.

    take a look, the dems keep aborting their offspring, and we will be left with…. a nation of Christian American children!!!

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    • Deutscher
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 2:39am

      I think it’s sad. I‘m not a woman so I don’t speak to their motivations, but rape and incest seem like good reasons to me.
      I gotta tell ya though the idea of using abortions to end up with “American Christians” is pretty offensive. Even as a joke. Since when did fetus’ have political affiliations?

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  • Alistair
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:56am

    It is not my place to make that decision for someone else, nor is it my place to impart judgment on those who choose to abort their child. Never the less, it is not the government’s job to make abortions more accessible to women and it is not the taxpayers responsibility to fund said abortions. People need to start taking responsibility for their actions. Pregnancy is 100% preventable through abstinence. On a more realistic level in this day and age there are also various forms of birth control available. Sex is a choice. If you choose to have sex you should be prepared to deal with the consequences of your actions. It is personal responsibility, not taxpayer responsibility that should come into play here.

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  • RobertCA
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:53am

    You wanna be pro choice & @ the same time ask the tax payers to pay for it ??????
    Nah not on my watch .

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    • Devil in Arkansas
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 10:58am

      At the same time, I really don‘t want to pay for all the children of those who are receiving a Gov’t handout, either. If a mother chooses to carry to term but decides not to give the child up for adoption, I don’t want my tax$$ spent to keep ANOTHER generation on the dole. There HAS to be some middle ground for the taxpayer.

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    • pinkcadlac
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:26pm

      DEVIL IN ARKANSAS
      Yes, as the bumper sticker goes… “CAN‘T FEED ’EM, DON‘T BREED ’EM”

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  • CoFX
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:50am

    It’s like any other medical service that is fully funded – when you get any proceedure for free, there is no personal responsibility involved. I would think that some women ( not the smartest women for sure) will ultimately use free abortions as a form of birth control. At the very least, the people involved should have some sort of financial obligation so that it isn’t abused over and over again. There has got to be some sort of deterrence involved, even if it is simply monetary.

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    • wingedwolf
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 9:07am

      Reluctantly, I have to testify that you are right. Back when roe/v/wade was decided I remember women whom I knew who did use abortion as birth control. I questioned one such person, because I knew she had had several abortions, and asked why she didn’t just use “the pill.” She told me, (I’m translating ebonics and paraphrasing) “I’m too busy to go do all that, (she was on welfare) going to the doctor, sitting there in that office and waiting, getting my clothes off and all that, going to the drug store and waiting in line for the script to get filled, get up every day and take a stupid pill. If I gits pregnant, I just goes to the women’s health and gits it taken care of.” When I asked (I wasn’t at all wise about welfare, food stamps, medicaid, etc.I was 16 and lived in a fairly affluent suburb of Pittsburgh, PA) how in the world she could even AFFORD to do that, as I knew the cost of an abortion was $350.00, and she didn’t have a job, she told me, “oh, my welfare pays for that, it don‘t cost me nuthin’.” Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case.

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  • RoyHowell
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:46am

    View this video about abortions. ( safe and non-graphic )
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOljzwNVGNY
    Everyone should hear and see this video.

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  • MAJ_Dave
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:42am

    I would love to see a discussion between Shakowsky and this abortion survivor:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPF1FhCMPuQ

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    • RoyHowell
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:47am

      YES, I agree. EVERYONE needs to see this video.

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 6:35am

      Gianna is a remarkable young woman. Watch the video. I saw her many mnay years ago when she was still suffering from the effects of the abotion attempt on her life. She looks like her body is healing now! How cool is that?!

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  • pamela kay
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:42am

    If women choose to not use protection why is any one else responsible ? This makes no sense. These women who want the right to make decisions because it is their body have to pay the consquences for not protecting their own body in the first place. I personally could never have an abortion. To me every child is truly a gift from God that he intrusts in us to love and care for. If they want to offer the morning after pill to be covered, I could accept that more. The real problem is so many women are to irresponsible and lazy to even do that. If they at least sought the abortion in its very early stages that would be one thing, but so often they wait until the little baby is developing. Most of us have seen songrams. You can actually see their tiny hands and feet. I just don’t under-stand how anyone could feel that they had the right to take that life. Regardless the individual is responsible not any one else.I don’t want that guilt because I would be helping to pay for them. Maybe have an additional charge added onto their own policies that they will have to pay for it themselves and not the tax-payers. Then the blood would be on their hands and not on ours. It’s just giving a free pass to be careless and selfish. The best option is of course safe sex if not then adoption. Some of the fathers may want to raise the babies or perhaps the grand-parents or siblings. The tax-payers should in no way have to cover the costs.

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  • puck30
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:41am

    Oh and a great job by Nichola Ballasy on the interview, he just gave her the shovel and let her dig the hole.

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  • NoMarxist
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:41am

    I’m completely on board with aborting 4th term progressive babies.

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    • Marcobob69
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 7:58am

      I agree with NOMARXIST! Term limits are a must. I believe it’s up to the woman if she wants to have an abortion, she will ultimately have to face God on Judgement Day, but the option to put the baby up for adoption is always there. There are many young couples that cannot have children themselves that are DYING to adopt.

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  • puck30
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:38am

    As Venus Flytrap would say…………..SAY WHAT?

    This Dem has to be in a safe seat in Illinois.

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  • carol m
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:32am

    OK lets butt out of the woman’s business and not fund it. I am not a proponet of abortion but I would rather women have the right to do it in a doctors office rather than in back alleys. That does not mean that I want to fund it. It called growing up if you can make a decision to have sex, then you can make a decision to either take birth control (and with all the methods now there really should be no reason for an abortion) or you can have an abortion and figure out a way to pay for it.

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 6:30am

      You still cannot get past this…Abortion is the MURDER of a child. Wake up!!! Murder is Ok with you? No wonder our Nation has fallen into the hands of the Marxist. It‘s weak willed people like you that won’t make a stand!! Get a spine!

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    • Bringonnov
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 3:35pm

      Well said Dustyluv. Someone please step up and content that abortion is not murder…….you can’t. People talk about a women’s right to choose and those folks do not step up for the one who has no voice.

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  • pinkcadlac
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:31am

    I had to stop the video at about 40 seconds, after she said“It is the ONLY ”health procedure” that is pulled out and excluded…
    Really?
    I remember when I was TRYING to get pregnant, and my health coverage would NOT cover any of the procedures my husband and I wanted. The irony.
    Interesting too,that she refers to an abortion as a “health procedure”. Bottom line , I do not want to fund an abortion for anyone.

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    • reg
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 9:18pm

      Abortion is not a “health procedure”, it is a “death procedure”.

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  • lightening1952
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:25am

    I have several relatives that live in Illinois, and for the life of me cannot get them involved in their state politics even though I spell it out for them as much as they allow. Pathetic that they just don’t give a damn.

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  • staythecourse
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:24am

    Why not address the issue of rape of women inthe military as opposed to seeing the solution as being approval of abortions. And yes, abortion is murder. Just because the Supreme Court has ruled it a right doesn’t make it a right nor does it make it right. We forget that the constitution speaks of “LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness”. We keep forgetting about that “life” clause. We do need to revise the debate of abortion and the hyde amendment, not to do away with the hyde amendment but to recognize abortion for what it is…murder.

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    • spikebu
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 3:57am

      You don’t need to revise a debate. You NEED to renew your faith in God. There is no debate. We all know abortion is wrong. Put your faith in God. He’ll make all things right. Rest in His love.

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  • bikerr
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:22am

    If a women wants to kill a baby She should use her own money and not tax dollars(no matter what the circumstances) “the one who lays pays”

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  • El Guapo 14
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:22am

    What planet is this woman on……..ifi she wants other people to pay for a strangers abortion, she should give her checking account info to all abortion clinics and pay for it her self……..remember “spread the wealth”…but since she is a progressive she means other peoples money……..what a joke……..are voters in Ill. listing?

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  • Bunk
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:19am

    Well said RACE!

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  • Race
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:10am

    What can you say? The woman’s an idiot.

    I choose the third option on the abortion issue. It’s none of my damn business. It‘s not the government’s business. It’s between the woman, her family, her doctor, and her god if she has one.

    If everyone would just butt out of other folks business the country would be WAY better off.

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    • KC CS Tour KING
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:38am

      Solid Reasoning!!! Don’t forget her own pocketbook though…

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    • AmericanPatriot01
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:42am

      Just like any choice, The individual will have to face God wether they believe in him or not. But even the angels are not allowed to interfere with free will. Why would man be so vein as to think that they should have power over another person’s free will.

      I don’t condone abortions because my relationship with God is strong enough that I know that it is wrong. I would councel any woman wanting to get an abortion on the religious implications and the spiritual damage she will face if she were to proceed with killing a child. Might even try to convince her that an adoption option would be preferable. But, that is just what I would do. She shouldn’t be forced, encouraged or restricted by some overreaching government agency.

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    • RAB
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 2:01am

      RACE, should people just back off when a mom runs a car into a lake with her kids straped in, or how about when she finds out her 3yr. old is mentaly ill,why not pull the cord on a premie with a med. condition that’ll takes care& $ for years,? suck there brains out in birth canal, burn it todeath in the womb with saline? It’s not about you or me. God gives life at conception and as americans we should believe everyone has a right to life regardless of age!

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    • kontrarian
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 2:38am

      Rab, you are so right. No one should have the “choice” to murder.

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    • spikebu
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 3:18am

      Exactly! You cannot legislate morality! Well said, race.

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    • spikebu
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 3:41am

      Rab and Kontra. I believe abortion is a sin. I believe lying, stealing and murder are also sins. Since the wages of sin is death, which sin is worse?

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    • AmericanSoldier88
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 8:19am

      ABSOLUTELY, leave me alone and I leave you alone, unless you ask for my help.

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    • Bringonnov
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 3:29pm

      SPIKEBU, your arguement doesn’t work. Stealing and murder are illegal. Currently abortion isn’t. Would you argue that stealing should be legal, since we should not legislate morality?

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    • thomas
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 8:41pm

      @american … so far i like and agree with your way of thinking… keep up the good work and thank you.

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  • Cowboy
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:06am

    Add your comments

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  • needanotherReagan
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:05am

    The taxpayers have an obligation to vote her out of office.

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  • AMERICANCITIZEN
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:04am

    I personally don’t agree with abortion, but I feel the choice is up to the individual women.
    I sure don’t think I should pay for someone else to have an abortion.

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    • lightening1952
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:23am

      I’m with you….I don’t condone abortion, but agree it is the right of every woman to decide on her own. But I do not want to pay for it and don‘t feel it’s the our problem. Let the woman and man involved pay that on their own.

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 6:25am

      So killing babies is now a choice? Gee what a really stupid idea when you think about it.
      Roe V Wade needs to be repealed. If you then want to kill your baby, you get to go to jail where you can’t kill anymore…

      Abortion is murder stupid.

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    • firstHat
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 7:29am

      OK, my attitude is one that puts me where no one likes me. I think that we need to think of abortion as murder in self defense. It should be that rare and that seriously considered. There are times when it may be necessary, but those times are rare and need to be very very carefully thought through.

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    • AmericanSoldier88
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 8:18am

      Absolutely, It should be up to the woman. Roe v Wade rather you agree or not merely states that the government should not decide what a woman can do with her body. I don’t agree with abortion unless it was absolutely necessary to save the mothers life. But I don’t want any government making that choice for me or my wife and I think that society has no place in that choice as well.

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    • wingedwolf
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 8:46am

      If you can’t trust someone with a choice, why on Earth would you trust them with a baby?

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    • baldwin4freedom
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 8:52am

      As far as I am concerned, this is not a federal issue. It is a state issue. Abortion is equivalent to murder. If a state wants to make a law outlawing abortion, then so be it. If a state chooses to make it legal, then let nature take its course. The proof will be in the outcome of the states society.

      Look what has happened since Roe v. Wade. I know a few girls who have gotten more than one abortion in highschool and after. It has been legalized as a form of birth control.

      Making this okay nationwide is horrific. What is even worse than that is forcing those of us that do not agree to be accomplices to this deed by funding it!

      Yes, I will agree that some will get an abortion somewhere, that is human nature.

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    • chatom
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 8:55am

      I wish someone could explain how abortion is legal and not murder but if someone kills a pregnant woman they are charged with TWO deaths. And also Pro Choicers please tell me when life begins, is there a particular day or week. If something is growing, its alive. I’ve also always wondered how libs can be so Pro Choice but adamantly against the death penalty. It just defies reason.

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    • MoreCowbell
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 9:18am

      “I personally don’t agree with abortion, but I feel the choice is up to the individual women.”
      This argument baffles me…let’s insert another topic in place of the heinous, appalling crime of murder that abortion is:

      I personally don’t agree with rape but I feel that rape is up to the individual rapist.
      I personally don’t agree with pedophillia, but I feel the choice is up to the individual pedophile.

      Why is it ok to be so “ok” with a woman having the right to decide to kill her baby? Location of the baby, whether it’s in the womb or out, does not make a difference on whether it is a human being? Why are we still allowing “mothers” to choose to kill them?
      Think about it.

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    • carrera
      Posted on September 29, 2010 at 10:01am

      For those of you who believe it is a woman’s choice to have an abortion I ask you this, Let’s take two different woman who are both 30 weeks pregnant, and they are both 32 years old. They both have the same doctor, let’s call him Dr. Depraved. The first woman, Rachel M. decides she does not want to be “punished” with a baby. She visits Dr. Depraved, he deliberately delivers the baby breach, inserts a surgical scissor into the base of the baby‘s neck and terminates her baby’s life. Rachel M. goes home. Immediately after, Dr. Depraved cleans up and heads over to see Mary, the second woman. She desperately wants her baby but goes into labor early, her baby with medical intervention can be delivered and live a productive life. Dr. Depraved delivers the baby, within one second of delivery, while the baby is crying it’s first breath, Dr. Depraved grabs a cloth and suffocates the baby. Dr. Depraved is charged with first degree murder. In just one second,because the baby took it’s first breath, determines a woman’s right to choose and murder. I mean this sincerely, how do you possibly reconcile your beliefs?

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    • Two_Kids_Dad
      Posted on September 30, 2010 at 12:58am

      Does the father of the developing fetus get a say in the matter? If not, he shouldn’t have to pay child support for the babies that are born. If so, he should have veto power and be able to get custody of any of his progeny that are born if the mother tries to abort the baby at any time during her pregnancy.

      Rights and responsibilities must be equal.

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    • Mattangels00
      Posted on September 30, 2010 at 11:40am

      Really Winged? A bumper sticker line that when analyzed doesn’t even make sense? Really? How about “No Justice No Peace” or maybe you could have said, “Visualize World Peace?” Really? In essence you said, “How can you trust me to raise a child if you can‘t trust that I won’t kill it?” Just think a little before you post.

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  • Cowboy
    Posted on September 29, 2010 at 1:04am

    How many points is a fetus worth on the Emmanuel scale?

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