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Controversial Cybersecurity Legislation Amended But Many Say Privacy Still a Concern

The privacy concerns voiced in recent weeks over the Cyber Intelligence Sharing Protection Act have been amended to an extent before the proposed legislation heads into a House vote at the end of this week.

(Related: CISPA: How the new cyber-security bill isn‘t SOPA but some say it’s ‘just as bad’)

The bill was drafted with Representatives Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) and Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.) as co-sponsors in an effort to help provide a legal framework for business and the government to share information about cyberattacks. But, as the Huffington Post notes, online privacy advocates and civil liberties groups stated the language about the information on consumers businesses could share was too broad.

CISPA Amended and Awaiting House Vote Friday But Groups Still Opposed Over Privacy Concerns

Rep. Mike Rogers (Photo: MikeRogers.house.gov)

One of the amendments was to restrict the government’s use of information it received from businesses to “cybersecurity, investigating and prosecuting cyber crime, protecting ‘individuals from death or serious bodily harm,’ protecting minors from child pornography, and ensuring national security.”

Of the amendments, the Center for Democracy & Technology, which was opposed to much of this legislation, said in a statement the progress was good but still not enough:

“In sum, good progress has been made. The Committee listened to our concerns and has made important privacy improvements and we applaud the Committee for doing so. However, the bill falls short because of the remaining concerns — the flow of internet data directly to the NSA and the use of information for purposes unrelated to cybersecurity. We support amendments to address these concerns. Recognizing the importance of the cybersecurity issue, in deference to the good faith efforts made by Chairman Rogers and Ranking Member Ruppersberger, and on the understanding that amendments will be considered by the House to address our concerns, we will not oppose the process moving forward in the House. We will focus on the amendments and subsequently on the Senate.”

The Huffington Post reports Rogers stating he is pleased with the amendments and that he believes it will have enough support to pass in this Friday’s House vote.

It is still not without its opponents. The Electronic Frontier Foundation maintains its discontent over the proposed legislation, calling some of the amdendments “meaningless.” It states, “the immunity exemptions and weak federal liability combine to create a bill that allows forspying on users who are unable to hold companies and the government accountable.”

Another interesting, perhaps less expected, opponent is the  American Library Association. In a statement ALA President Molly Raphael said “The ALA has long supported strong privacy protections as part of our community’s larger commitment to the First Amendment and civil liberties,” said Raphael. “We cannot stand by silently and let a federal law trump all of the federal and state laws that protect personal privacy. This is especially so when a bill like H.R. 3523 allows for an excessive amount of information that could be shared between the private sector and the government.

“We need balance between what our country must do for cybersecurity and the privacy values that we must protect,” said Raphael.

Presidential hopeful Ron Paul has also come out against CISPA, stating it would create a “big brother” culture. Listen to Paul’s thoughts on CISPA:

A White House official said earlier this week there is a need for cybersecurity legislation, but the Guardian reports as a whole, the Obama administration is opposed:

Alec Ross, a senior adviser for innovation to Hillary Clinton, reiterated the administration’s opposition to the proposals in more explicit language than previous statements from officials.

“The Obama administration opposes Cispa,” he told the Guardian. “The president has called for comprehensive cybersecurity legislation. There is absolutely a need for comprehensive cybersecurity legislation.

“[But] part of what has been communicated to congressional committees is that we want legislation to come with necessary protections for individuals.”

The bill does have widespread bipartisan support in Congress and among many businesses and tech companies. The Huffington Post notes Rogers saying there is a reason for the support it is receiving in the private sector and that’s because they “need help” and are “absolutely under siege.”

Comments (38)

  • Demosthenik
    Posted on April 27, 2012 at 3:11pm

    Oh, look. All the Blaze‘s hero’s voted for it. Whodathunk? This whole community is full of it. I‘m going to emulate the Blaze’s use of sensational all caps in every headline for this: YOUR FAVORITE PEOPLE VOTE FOR THIS CRAP. Idiots.

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  • Harpotoo
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 9:43am

    Too late! Obummercare puts all of our medical records on the web meaning you dont own them anymore and if they are stolen/info hacked you have no recourse and no one to hold accountable! Internet privacy my arse!

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  • SquidVetOhio
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:38am

    “We need balance between what our country must do for cybersecurity and the privacy values that we must protect,”

    Uh no, you protect freedom. Let us protect ourselves on the internet. I worked in the intel world for over 10 years. There are already Intelligence Oversight laws that we are briefed on annually stating the government CAN NOT spy on an American Citizen unless they are suspected of espionage, terrorism, or some federal crime. Then they must get judicial approval. So they are backdooring it by saying “It’s private business gathering intelligence, not us.” This cannot stand. I’m writing my congressman today!

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  • DRAGONSEED
    Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:09am

    Nobody online is ‘safe’ or ‘secure’ or ‘private,’ imo, until America OUTLAWS GOOGLE‘S FRIGGIN’ SNOOPING AT EVERYTHING WE DO–including on this site. And that’s not likely to ever happen, now, is it? Too many $$$ involved–and, obviously, certain “Agencies” are benefiting from google’s ever-watchful eye and ever-sniffing nose.

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  • resme
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:15pm

    Cosponsors of cispa.
    Rep. Mark Amodei [R-NV2]
    Rep. Michele Bachmann [R-MN6]
    Rep. Dan Boren [D-OK2]
    Rep. Michael Burgess [R-TX26]
    Rep. Ken Calvert [R-CA44]
    Rep. Ben Chandler [D-KY6]
    Rep. Michael Conaway [R-TX11]
    Rep. Norman “Norm” Dicks [D-WA6]
    Rep. John “Phil” Gingrey [R-GA11]
    Rep. Luis Gutiérrez [D-IL4]
    Rep. Joe Heck [R-NV3]
    Rep. Peter “Pete” King [R-NY3]
    Rep. Adam Kinzinger [R-IL11]
    Rep. James “Jim” Langevin [D-RI2]
    Rep. Frank LoBiondo [R-NJ2]
    Rep. Michael McCaul [R-TX10]
    Rep. Jeff Miller [R-FL1]
    Rep. Sue Myrick [R-NC9]
    Rep. Devin Nunes [R-CA21]
    Rep. Mike Pompeo [R-KS4]
    Rep. Thomas Rooney [R-FL16]
    Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger [D-MD2]
    Rep. John Shimkus [R-IL19]
    Rep. Lee Terry [R-NE2]
    Rep. Michael “Mike” Thompson [D-CA1]
    Rep. Frederick “Fred” Upton [R-MI6]
    Rep. Greg Walden [R-OR2]
    Rep. Lynn Westmoreland [R-GA3]
    Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen [R-NJ11] (joined Dec 08, 2011)
    Rep. Robert Latta [R-OH5] (joined Dec 08, 2011)
    Rep. Patrick McHenry [R-NC10] (joined Dec 08, 2011)
    Rep. Ben Quayle [R-AZ3] (joined Dec 08, 2011)
    Rep. Kevin Yoder [R-KS3] (joined Dec 08, 2011)
    Rep. David “Dave” Camp [R-MI4] (joined Dec 16, 2011)
    Rep. Timothy Walberg [R-MI7] (joined Dec 16, 2011)
    Rep. Anna Eshoo [D-CA14] (joined Dec 20, 2011)
    Rep. Michael Michaud [D-ME2] (joined Dec 20, 2011)
    Rep. Mike Coffman [R-CO6] (joined Jan 18, 2012)
    Rep. Robert “Bob” Goodlatte [R-VA6] (joined Jan 18, 2012)
    Rep. David McKinley [R-WV1] (joined Jan 18, 2012)

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    • resme
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:18pm

      Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers [R-WA5] (joined Jan 18, 2012)
      Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen [R-FL18] (joined Jan 18, 2012)
      Rep. John Sullivan [R-OK1] (joined Jan 18, 2012)
      Rep. Randy Forbes [R-VA4] (joined Jan 25, 2012)
      Rep. Frank Wolf [R-VA10] (joined Jan 25, 2012)
      Rep. Darrell Issa [R-CA49] (joined Jan 31, 2012)
      Rep. Gary Miller [R-CA42] (joined Jan 31, 2012)
      Rep. Clifford “Cliff” Stearns [R-FL6] (joined Jan 31, 2012)
      Rep. Tom Cole [R-OK4] (joined Feb 01, 2012)
      Rep. Michael Turner [R-OH3] (joined Feb 01, 2012)
      Rep. Mo Brooks [R-AL5] (joined Feb 07, 2012)
      Rep. John Carter [R-TX31] (joined Feb 07, 2012)
      Rep. Vicky Hartzler [R-MO4] (joined Feb 07, 2012)
      Rep. Bill Huizenga [R-MI2] (joined Feb 07, 2012)
      Rep. Dan Benishek [R-MI1] (joined Feb 13, 2012)
      Rep. Paul Broun [R-GA10] (joined Feb 13, 2012)
      Rep. Michael Grimm [R-NY13] (joined Feb 13, 2012)
      Rep. Brett Guthrie [R-KY2] (joined Feb 13, 2012)
      Rep. Candice Miller [R-MI10] (joined Feb 13, 2012)
      Rep. Michael “Mike” Rogers [R-AL3] (joined Feb 13, 2012)
      Rep. Geoff Davis [R-KY4] (joined Feb 14, 2012)
      Rep. Doc Hastings [R-WA4] (joined Feb 14, 2012)
      Rep. Leonard Lance [R-NJ7] (joined Feb 14, 2012)
      Rep. Patrick Meehan [R-PA7] (joined Feb 14, 2012)
      Rep. Spencer Bachus [R-AL6] (joined Feb 16, 2012)
      Rep. Mary Bono Mack [R-CA45] (joined Feb 16, 2012)
      Rep. John Kline [R-MN2] (joined Feb 16, 2012)
      Rep. Pete Olson [R-TX22] (joined Feb 16, 2012)
      Rep. Aaron Schock [R-IL18] (joined Feb 16, 2012)
      Rep. William “Bill”

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    • resme
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:19pm

      Rep. William “Bill” Shuster [R-PA9] (joined Feb 16, 2012)*
      Rep. Joe Baca [D-CA43] (joined Feb 27, 2012)
      Rep. Chuck Fleischmann [R-TN3] (joined Feb 27, 2012)
      Rep. Phil Roe [R-TN1] (joined Feb 27, 2012)
      Rep. Leonard Boswell [D-IA3] (joined Feb 28, 2012)
      Rep. Kristi Noem [R-SD0] (joined Feb 28, 2012)
      Rep. Rob Wittman [R-VA1] (joined Mar 01, 2012)
      Rep. Marsha Blackburn [R-TN7] (joined Mar 05, 2012)
      Rep. Alcee Hastings [D-FL23] (joined Mar 05, 2012)
      Rep. Randy Hultgren [R-IL14] (joined Mar 05, 2012)
      Rep. Robert Hurt [R-VA5] (joined Mar 05, 2012)
      Rep. Rick Crawford [R-AR1] (joined Mar 08, 2012)
      Rep. Bill Johnson [R-OH6] (joined Mar 08, 2012)
      Rep. Adrian Smith [R-NE3] (joined Mar 08, 2012)
      Del. Madeleine Bordallo [D-GU0] (joined Mar 19, 2012)
      Rep. Trent Franks [R-AZ2] (joined Mar 19, 2012)
      Rep. Rick Larsen [D-WA2] (joined Mar 19, 2012)
      Rep. Albio Sires [D-NJ13] (joined Mar 19, 2012)
      Rep. Edolphus “Ed” Towns [D-NY10] (joined Mar 19, 2012)
      Rep. Jim Cooper [D-TN5] (joined Mar 22, 2012)
      Rep. Joseph Pitts [R-PA16] (joined Mar 22, 2012)
      Rep. Mike Ross [D-AR4] (joined Mar 22, 2012)
      Rep. Jon Runyan [R-NJ3] (joined Mar 22, 2012)
      Rep. Roscoe Bartlett [R-MD6] (joined Mar 29, 2012)
      Rep. Brian Bilbray [R-CA50] (joined Mar 29, 2012)
      Rep. Dennis Cardoza [D-CA18] (joined Mar 29, 2012)
      Rep. Jim Costa [D-CA20] (joined Mar 29, 2012)
      Rep. Morgan Griffith [R-VA9] (joined Mar 29, 2012)
      Rep. Larry Kissell [D-NC8] (joined Mar 29, 2012)
      Rep. Mike McIntyre [D-NC7] (joined

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    • resme
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:22pm

      Rep. William Owens [D-NY23] (joined Mar 29, 2012)
      Rep. Collin Peterson [D-MN7] (joined Mar 29, 2012)
      Rep. Steve Scalise [R-LA1] (joined Mar 29, 2012)
      Rep. Heath Shuler [D-NC11] (joined Mar 29, 2012)
      Rep. Steve Stivers [R-OH15] (joined Mar 29, 2012)
      Rep. Addison “Joe” Wilson [R-SC2] (joined Mar 29, 2012)
      Rep. Rob Woodall [R-GA7] (joined Mar 29, 2012)
      Rep. Steve Austria [R-OH7] (joined Apr 16, 2012)
      Rep. Henry Cuellar [D-TX28] (joined Apr 16, 2012)
      Rep. Ralph Hall [R-TX4] (joined Apr 16, 2012)
      Rep. Doug Lamborn [R-CO5] (joined Apr 16, 2012)
      Rep. Mick Mulvaney [R-SC5] (joined Apr 16, 2012)
      Rep. Howard “Buck” McKeon [R-CA25] (joined Apr 17, 2012)

      Get busy calling your local congressman, This must be stopped.

      Once again, Ron Paul is standing up for freedom.

      Thank you.

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 8:46am

      MICHELLE BACHMANN?!

      “Et tu Brute?”

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 11:22am

      SquidVetOhio
      “MICHELLE BACHMANN?! ”
      Oh Yes! Bachmann is right up there with Allen West when it time to stand up for the Constitution, Freedom and Liberties. The Heroes of the so called Conservatives.

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  • c0mm0nsense
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:49pm

    Once again it’s Ron Paul all alone out in Front Fighting for our Freedom, Liberty and the Constitution.

    May future generations look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in a moment of great crisis, stood up to their politicians, the opinion – makers, and the establishment, and saved their country. ~ Ron Paul

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    • KangarooJack
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:10pm

      Give me Rand then!

      Don’t you think there are MANY who do NOT appreciate the choices offered at the buffet??

      It’s down to ABO at this point. Don‘t you think I know our forefathers’ are rolling right now?

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  • SaintzOfAk
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:31pm

    CISPA, ACTA, PIPA, SOPA…this is all Obviously! a consolodated global push to seize control of communications. There is literally a new bill every month so far this year concerning Internet Regulation. Combine that with NDAA, Patriot Act, the new NSA Intelligence Center (Utah), TSA, DHS, FEMA…you would literally! have to be one dumb SOB to not take notice of something very sinister taking place right in front of our very eyes. I have 0!!! interest in arguing with any fool who thinks this is all conspiracy theory nonsense….OPEN YOUR GDAMN EYES SHEEP!

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    • lovenfl3
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:55pm

      Agreed, this is another attempt to seize more power and control. I could care less what Republicans support it. I am opposed to government control over our lives, no matter which side it comes from.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJC5Zw-ggrc

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    • DRAGONSEED
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:11am

      Very well said–and a nice summation of THE PROBLEM.

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    • SaintzOfAk
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 3:19am

      I wouldn‘t say something like this if i wasn’t certain in my heart and gut about it. I believe if we see another 4 years of Obama, there will be widespread violence across this country. Call it Revolution, call it what you want, but this is what they are anticipating by such laws as NDAA. This entire world is about to head into a manufactured darkness like we’ve never experienced B4, and these power hungry psychopaths will stop at nothing at this point to achieve total control. This is a F***** WAR, and it’s about Damn! time we start treating it like one in our civic duties as Americans. I can tell you one thing 4 sure. The fact that a large shareholder in the “FOREIGN” private company counting our votes this election happens to be Darth Soros, makes the hair on my back stand straight up. As a grown man i must admit, for the 1st time in my adult life i’m genuinely frightened…White as a sheet, but mad as hell and ready to fight.

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  • ProbIemSoIver
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:21pm

    This is the BOTTOM LINE !!!!

    Article IV of the Bill of Rights states:

    “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses and papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall NOT BE VIOLATED, and NO WARRANTS shall issue, but upon PROBABLE CAUSE, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly descibing the place to be searched, and or persons or things to be seized”

    Any Official that violates their oath to uphold the Constitution, are treasonist enemies of the American people.

    I DON”T CARE about a VOTE in the House, Senate, or a decision from the oval office.

    I DON‘T CARE if the Global Elite’s Federal Reserve PRIVATE Bank aquired the Corporation of the United States of America.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlCs7u1ihws

    I don’t Acknowledge ANY of these clowns as having ANY AUTHORITY over me !!!!!

    The founding fathers HATED democracy !!!!

    They said NO ONE can VOTE on ANYTHING when it came to my Constitutonal Rights !!!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RewUP-Fdhqk

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  • endgamer
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:05pm

    Write congress about CISPA here https://wfc2.wiredforchange.com/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8444

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  • groundzero
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:02pm

    STOP passing NEW laws and CUT THE DEBT @SSHOLE

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  • Mutiny
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:58pm

    This bill is one more in a long line of freedom stealing bills. I doubt it will pass, but eventually one like it will. I mean up until 5 months ago none of us thought our government could kill us or indefinitely detain us but they can now.

    Of the three presidential candidates left two of them supported the NDAA.

    Wake up, there is still time to save this country.

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  • Mr. Oshawott
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:52pm

    The “Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection” Act – An upgraded version of the “Stop Online Policy” and “Protect IP” Acts. This privacy-invading bill will literally allow the government and pivate companies to have unwarranted access to your e-mails and text messages so that they’ll be able to arbitrarily prevent them from reaching their destinations, all in the name of “combating cyber-terrorism.” This is yet another another attack towards the First Amendment right of free speech in the case of the Internet.

    Source: https://wfc2.wiredforchange.com/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8444

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    • DRAGONSEED
      Posted on April 26, 2012 at 12:15am

      You said “This privacy-invading bill will literally allow the government and pivate companies to have unwarranted access to your e-mails and text messages…”

      Don’t you think they are already doing all that? From all appearances, this is already being done, and these kinds of sweeping legislations are basically to codify (and extend) practices already in place. Seems like there was something involving AT&T and privacy in the recent past along these lines…

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  • Mutiny
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:48pm

    Ron Paul is right again.

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  • recoveringneocon
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:42pm

    Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference. Government cannot create a world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in such a fictional place. Only a totalitarian society would even claim absolute safety as a worthy ideal, because it would require total state control over its citizens’ lives. Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons.

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  • spirited
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:41pm

    Leave the First Amendment alone

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  • babylonvi
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:40pm

    They don’t care what you serfs think. The Nobility(Republican, Neocon,, Democrat, CBC, Progressives, etc. answer to higher authority, the Globalist Banker Elite, the UN, NATO, the NWO, etc. To them, you are just “Carbon Based Life Forms Infesting the Earth”( – paraphrase V GER). Is it possible to create a truly independent party not controlled by the NWO?

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:01pm

      You have been down the rabbit hole. It is an incredible journey, isn’t it?

      The Banksters have won the real life monopoly game, own everything, and won’t let us start over.
      They want us to quit, for good.

      The Great culling has begun.

      You obviously know they want 1 billion (initially 500 million) on the planet to enslave literally, and not just financially.
      1 billion is “sustainable” and Controllable.

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  • slr4528
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:31pm

    So Obama thinks this current bill is not good enough because we need “comprehensive” cybersecurity legislation? Is that right? I get really nervous and scared when Obama says we need “comprehensive” cybersecurity legislation.

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  • tharpdevenport
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:30pm

    I warned The Blaze about this, after reading the whole Bill, which isn’t that long. But long enough. It’s been a month since I read it, but as I recall:

    They get to decide who can access this information.
    You have no right to sue them, know why they are after you, or even whom they are.
    The powers are braod and ambiguous, leaving scary power in the hands on left-wing politicians and lawmakers.

    And while it was aimed at threats to national security, specifically online ones, when you have a Vice President calling us terrorists; the DOS making reports, videos and comments how white religious people are terrorists and not everybody else; that Congressman (or woman — I forget whom) who said we are terrorists; or a GOP candidate, the Ronulan, saying our military are “occupiers”, and so forth, and so forth, just what constitues a person as a threat to online security? We’re not gonna get to see the rules after all.

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    • Mr. Oshawott
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:45pm

      @TharPDavenport

      “The powers are broad and ambiguous, leaving scary power in the hands of left-wing politicians and lawmakers.”

      In case you’ve forgotten, it wasn’t just a Democrat that sponsored this bill – Mike Rogers, the REPUBLICAN, helped Dutch Ruppersberger (the Democrat) in drafting this speech-censoring bill; hence, this means that the right-wing politicians will have just as much access to these ambiguous powers as the left-wing politicians have. In summarization, this ISN’T a Left vs. Right, Democrat vs. Republican issue. It’s a LIBERTY vs. TYRANNY issue. Until people start understanding this, they’ll always wonder about how the government has gotten out of control with its excessive un-Constitutional power, even when the answer is already right in front of them.

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    • tharpdevenport
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 11:47pm

      Indeed, it was cosonposed by 72 Republicans, and 16 Democrats. Special mention goes to the following Republicans who warned against SOPA, but yet voted for this:

      Paul Broun (GA, district 10)
      Rodney Frelinghuysen (NJ, district 11)

      This is not a full list, just came up while looking up information.

      Lyberty & tyranny issue aside,if we hadn’t had a Clinton and Obama administration, and — frankly — a George W. Bush aadministration, that had Democrat houses that abused our liberty further and further, paying homage to Wilson and F.D.R. more than they could have hoped for, out main problem would be just “liberty” via idiotic establishement Republicans, spending our money but at a far, far slower pace. I’ll take defending for our liberty from Congressmen that occassionally listen, over fighting tryrany from a mixture of -isms that don’t listen to and insults us, call us racist, terrorists, etc.

      We understand well, most of us, but under a spra-nationalist Marxist semi dictator Golfer-in-cheif with conrad Democrat Congressmen swaying them, we have worry still over the Democrat party, which had changed mores and beliefs — meaning it won’t matter for a long while who runs as a Democrat. See the enemy, identify it, and achieve victory — over them. Not emmulate our fearless vacationer-in-cheif and refuse to name it or deal with it.

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  • KangarooJack
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:18pm

    Yes, we staved off 1984 for awhile, but the ManorXXXAnimal Farm is coming to bloom.

    What a nice thought though-a GOP and a DEM sponsoring a bill to protect Privacy Rights…who woulda thunk it???

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    • recoveringneocon
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:39pm

      If two parties with two sets of bad ideas cooperate, the result is not good policy, but policy that is extremely bad.

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  • THXll38
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:17pm

    The American people have to understand that they are not limited to 2 parties.

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  • barber2
    Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:06pm

    Have never worried about needing protection from the federal government until this administration. The executive orders, the unions mobs, the DOJ, the IRS, the Occupiers. This is one Big Brother crew like something out of a bad science fiction movie. 1984…just running a little late…

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    • Tigress1
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:15pm

      Same here. We are living in creepy times.

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    • momrules
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 9:18pm

      I’ve said before and paraphrasing Michelle Obama……….For the first time in my life I am afraid of my government. Hell of a thing isn’t it?

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