Controversial New Documentary Asks: Is America Ready For a Mormon President?
- Posted on July 16, 2011 at 6:51am by
Billy Hallowell
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In his upcoming film, “A Mormon President,” director Adam Christing explores whether America is ready for a Mormon president. Christing and his team take a comprehensive look at the faith system’s history and the multitude of contemporary thoughts, opinions and controversies that often surround it. Central to the documentary is Joseph Smith, the theocrat, politician and religious leader who founded the Latter Day Saint Movement (also known as the Mormon Church).
In an interview with Deseret News, Christing explains the potential controversy associated with the film. While he personally believes his portrayal of Smith and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is fair, viewers thus far have a diversity of opinion on the matter. He explains:
“…When we screened the early version of the film in Salt Lake, non-Mormons thought it was a pro-Mormon piece. LDS attendees thought it was anti-Mormon.”
Clearly, the documentary, like any other project that has a religious or political theme, is contentious in its own right. You can watch the trailer, below, to get a better sense of the subject matter:
Christing, who attended the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (now known as The Community of Christ) as a child but who now has no allegiance to the Mormon faith, says the film aims to provide viewers with a rich, educational history. While he has been separated from the Church for years, he finds its history fascinating. In an interview with The Blaze, he explains:
“As a kid I was enamored with Joseph Smith. A few years back I started reading more and more about Mormon history. I made a mock-umentary for fun a few years back. After that, I said ‘hey I’ve got to find a way to fuse my passion for film with interest in Mormonism.’”
Thus, the concept for “A Mormon President” was born. The filmmaker first began working on the project back in 2007 during Romney’s initial bid for the presidency. While the final product was intended for television broadcast, Christing changed course, decided to collect more footage and is just now ready to release his completed work.
The film — which will be released on DVD on August 15th — will provide a historical account of Smith’s life conveyed through expert opinion and reenactments that collectively help to bring the story to life.
A separate segment will include profiles and information on former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman — two Mormons currently competing for the 2012 Republican ticket. When it comes to overall goals, Christing makes his clear:
“My main goal is to tell the Joseph Smith story in the most historically accurate way and the most entertaining way possible…”
While the film does, indeed, delve into modern — not to mention historic — critiques of the Mormon Church, Christing strikes an aura of balance. Based on screener footage that The Blaze obtained earlier this week, interview subjects include Mormons, ex-believers and historians — all of whom contribute relevant pieces to the overall puzzle.
The filmmaker tells The Blaze that he is astounded that more documentarians haven’t tackled this fascinating subject:
“Here’s a guy who had the largest standing army outside the U.S., married to 33 women, mayor of the town, ran for president. There’s just so much there.”
In the end, Christing hopes that viewers understand that “ideas have consequences.” In keeping with his stated goal of simply educating the audience, he says:
“Whether you end up embracing Smith, rejecting him, wanting to learn more — it’s a wonderful thing. This doc is almost like history come alive.”
One subject that has already emerged in 2012 campaign discussion is the sometimes fearful reluctance some have to a Mormon assuming the American presidency. The film addresses this issue and provides historical context that helps to better frame where the roots of this opposition originated. The Washington Times has more:
Christing…says public opposition to the candidacies of Mr. Romney and Mr. Huntsman has historic roots.
“Most Americans don’t know that the first U.S. presidential candidate to be assassinated was a Mormon. In fact, he was the founder of Mormonism, Joseph Smith. The Mormon prophet was murdered a few months after he announced his candidacy in 1844,” Mr. Christing says.
The end result is sure to be an intriguing experience for viewers who have an interest in both faith and politics. For more information on the film, click here.





















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hightide
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:24amNot me. That whole book of mormon is just fiction written by a con man.
Report Post »Mark Tripp
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:38amAnd your position on the Bible is?
Report Post »audiemurphy
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 12:19pmMost critics have not read the book of Mormon but they are experts on how false it is!
Report Post »Country
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 3:16pmI don’t believe you can be a Mormon and a Christian at the same time. Mormon’s have another book they live by. Christians only have one, the true word of God’s. I perfer the JKV. Jesus said, “Revelation 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book,…”
Anything else is false teaching and is a LIE!
Report Post »Country
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 3:20pmRevelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
So I rather not have a Mormon Pres. Real wisdom comes from God.
Report Post »GulfPeg
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:22amCan we stop this nonsense? We got a president that is a “wolf in sheep’s clothing”, in other words, we got a M U S L I M. I would accept a Mormon any day before a M U S L I M!.
Report Post »Pujols
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:57amThat’s easy…….. ONLY IF IT’S a DEMOCRAT.
Report Post »dquak
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:59amThe Mormon doctrine of Eternal Progression says that through hard work and obedience you can grow up to one day be a god over your own world. I think it IS important to consider whether to place a person with that believe in the most powerful position in the world today.
Report Post »indy1
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:08amAfter the Black Liberation theology of Obama I think most Americans don’t care if Mitt is a Mormon or a Shaker.
Report Post »sbleve
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:09am‘rabid’.
Report Post »mils
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:11amMormons are no different than you or I….We live in a mormon state…you folks seem to want to judge something you do not know…live in the distant past, or perhpas were excommunicated. We hear stories all the time about catholics being excommunicated and coming up with their “damn that religion” crap.
We are not momon. We have raised 5 successful children here…no horns, no tails, no plural marriagges. Just decent common values..something the rest of the nation might take heed to.
ALSO,…WE NOW HAVE A BPOS IN OFFICE….YOU CAN NOT GET ANY LOWER THAN THAT! Electicing someone with good values, backgorund etc would be a change…if you like the Mormon candidate…VOTE FOR THEM…
Report Post »LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:15amWas america ready for a ignorant socialist community agitator for predident?
Report Post »Stuck_in_CA
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:16amA Mormon?!?! How ’bout a WOMAN?
Report Post »The guys have totally SCREWED things up!
watchmany2k
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:19amThe way I look at it is: the issue at hand is exorcising the evil we have in power now,
that is hell bent on destruction of the country, the economy and our way of life.
Using Christ’s example of casting out demons, the apostles having said they admonished exorcists “not of their party”, Christ said, “if they are not against me, they are for me.”
So regardless of denominational differences, if they claim a belief in Christ, that is good enough for me, the difference between my denomination and theirs, they can take up with Christ himself.
The battle is the expulsion of evil.
look at the numbers we have if we just stand together, (based on 2003 #’s) :
1. Roman Catholic Church: 67.2 million.
2. Southern Baptist Convention: 16.4 million.
3. United Methodist Church: 8.2 million.
4. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: 5.5 million.
5. Church of God in Christ: 5.4 million.
6. National Baptist Convention USA: 5 million.
7. Evangelical Lutheran Church in America: 4.9 million.
8. National Baptist Convention of America: 3.5 million.
9. Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.): 3.2 million.
10. Assemblies of God: 2.7 million.
‘Nuff Said.
Report Post »And like the difficult exorcisim of the boy with the dumb demon
“this one can only be expelled with fasting & prayer”
Then ya say “LEAVE”
- Get it ?
John 3:16
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:23amWhy do you ask Michele Bachmann is not morman. Besides there are some good mormans and any of them would be better than Dimbo Obama the skinny muslim with his fat bottom big mouth wife Moo Moo.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:44amReally, could it get any worse than what we have now?
Report Post »watchmany2k
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:47amThats 122 million, out of 300 million population
ALMOST HALF !
Not all of them voting age,
but then again, the voter turn out is not ALL of the elegible voters.
80% of the people believe the debt ceiling should not be raised.
I wonder how many believe what is coming out of washington IS Evil ?
The left is trying to divide us into factions.
That’s why we need to resist that effort, divided we fall.
UNITED we stand.
The 40 days pledge does indeed strengthen and unites us.
I may not agree 100% with Glenn on everything, so WHAT ?
I agree that we need to restore the constitution, and purge washington.
THEY see us as a MAJOR threat, or else there would not be paid trolls here,
media taking up EVERY divisive meme, and vicious attacks on anyone whe stands against them.
LOL, there’s yer sign…..
Report Post »We Shall Overcome…. !
2012
ashestoashes
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:56amMy thoughts exactly…except Romney wouldn’t be my pick because the man is a “global warming” advocate. Can’t see much difference between him and the dems…kind of like McCain.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 10:37amNo denominational affiliation
Thomas Jefferson
Report Post »Abraham Lincoln
Andrew Johnson
Ulysses Grant
Rutherford Hayes
Barack Obama
LibertyGoddess
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 11:14am1. Evangelicals will always be sensitive about any other religion. They would not pick any other candidate that was not their brand of Christianity.
2. By their fruits, ye shall know them. I believe Mitt is an honorable man. Harry Reid, not so much. I am not looking for a person of my religion, I am look for a person who is honorable. His marriage, his belief in God, his dealings. That’s the important part.
3. If a person has a problem with a Mormon president in this great land of freedom. Then you should pull all their members from the military, burn down all their humanitarian centers, quarantine all their homes, prevent their kids from going to public schools, because in the end, they are just as capable of running this country and enjoying the freedoms as Evangelicals.
4. This resistance from the Evangelicals will go down in history against them. I have already lost respect for them. I can’t stand to be in the same room with them. I will probably vote for anyone who is not Evangelical. They brought this upon themselves. They have this same animosity towards the Dems and they have tainted our political arena with this “I’m holier than you” attitude. Knock it off Evangelicals.
Report Post »the hawk
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 11:23am“God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man,
Report Post »THAT line is BS…….tHE trinity is BS……
JUSUS” THE KINGDOM OF GOD CAN NOT BE FOUND IN ANY BUILDING OF WOOD,STONE
OR GOLD&SILVER , THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITH;IN YOU!
We keep this up eliminating everyone because of their Religion ,and not only will we be left with a godless president ,but a godless country !
Cynic-clinic
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 11:41amNo matter how they try to paint the Mormons and thei beliefs, that religion has NEVER advocated killing people who didn’t belive the way they do, as the Muslims do IN WRITING (the Queran).
Denigrating Mormons is just one more step by the secular Marxists to wipe out ALL christian beliefs so that the last hope is the all powerful GOVERNMENT–which is the real enemy , not the savior.
Report Post »manny5717
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 12:32pmwhy not a mormon?…the moronic left and stupid brain dead minorities elected a muslim who is an enemy of America. I’ll take any Mormon before any muslim pig!
Report Post »NeoFan
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 12:53pmHere is a list of Joyfulmoms leaders, Just google some of them for the truth that she is selling.
Aimee Semple McPherson
Report Post »Lonnie Frisbee
Marjoe Gortner
Billy James Hargis
Jim & Tammy Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart
Peter Popoff
Morris Cerullo
Mike Warnke
Robert Tilton
W. V. Grant
Bob Moorehead
Roy Clements
John Paulk
Paul Crouch
Douglas Goodman
Kent Hovind
Ted Haggard
Paul Barnes
Lonnie Latham
Gilbert Deya
Richard Roberts
Benny Hinn
Earl Paulk
Coy Privette
Thomas Wesley Weeks, III
Michael Reid
Joe Barron
Hank Hanegraaff
Todd Bentley
George Alan Rekers
Eddie L. Long
Vaughn Reeves
Stephen Green
Albert Odulele
sputnik
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 12:57pm@Dquak I’m sure some of your beliefs look like believing in a flying spaghetti monsters to others… I don’t know when the last time we elected an official to start a crusade. Obama‘s beliefs of salvation is much farther from what the majority believes than Romney’s beliefs. The presidency is about politics; not what form of God you believe in.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 5:43pmDoes anyone else here find the ordering of comment making no sense at all? It’s like there is a different pattern for different posts, and sometimes within the same post.
Report Post »Axiom
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 6:11pmI said if it came down to Obama and Mitt ,Obama would get my vote and i have a distaste for Liberalism more than anyone you may know. But never ever will it come close to the distaste i have for Mormonism . Glenn you seem to be a history buff i enjoy your show and your books but Mormonism? In 12 step programs they call God as you understand him and you say your in recovery
so hammering you on Mormonism would not be wise. Stick to the facts and tv books and internet stay away from (Mormonism dealing with siver and gold). Try Christ God all mighty.But be ye not called Rabbi: FOR ONE IS YOUR MASTER, EVEN (CHRIST) and all ye brethren. Matt 23:8. (There is absolutely no system of theology of doctrine to be found in the bible): it simply is not there. But as with most mormons they cant see the light so they will never get the new light bulb in. On this topic.
Peace to all, AX
Report Post »jackbauer2012
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:50pmUpdate: As of 2011, the LDS church has over 13 million members
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 12:14amOh oh oh, let me answer this one…
America is ready for a Mormon President as long as it’s NOT Mitt Romney!
http://www.allenwestforpresident.us
Report Post »agameofthrones
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 1:13amI don’t think Mitt is running as a “Mormon” candidate. He is a republican running for president who happens to be a Mormon. Since when do we judge a candidate by what church he goes to? Bill Clinton was supposedly a mainstream Christian. He lived his beliefs really well, didn’t he? If you would help your country to be stronger and you are a Christian, then why not stand together with other Christians, even if you have some theological differences. We are much stronger together than we are apart. The important thing here is to come together on common values and beliefs. The most common value we all have is wanting to see our country regain its greatness again and to be protected from those who would destroy it, whether foreigners or Americans who want to toss out our Constitution in favor of some new socialism. Please stop squabbling about who loves Jesus best. The important thing is that He loves us. We should try to love one another and serve one another. Let’s stand together and take our country back.
Report Post »Luckywon
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 1:17amJoyful mom. Please stop attacking me. By attacking my faith so ignorantly, you are attacking me, and all of your fellow Blazers who happen to be Mormon. There are quite a few of us actually. You don’t know me. You don’t know my faith. You make false assumptions in your attacks and it is really quite hurtful that a fellow Christian would stoop to such lows out of hatred. Yes, Hatred. Joyful seems like such a misnomer for you.
Report Post »DmrNDrt
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 8:05am@joyfulmom – We agree completely on one thing; Salvation can only come through Jesus Christ! And yet the Lord still tells us in John 14:5 “If ye love me, keep my commandments.” And in Matthew 5:16 “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.” Why? Because, while He offers Salvation to those that will accept it, He also offers Exaltation to those that will demonstrate by their works that they will live his teachings and become one with Him and the Father (see John 17:20-23)
Also, have you never read Psalm 82:6 “I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.”
And FYI, I’ve openly studied any and all anti-Mormon literature for nearly 50 years now, many that make an even better case than Chip Thompson and I’m still a firm believer! So, I doubt your movie will sway Glen. But, just imagine the great work you and Chip Thompson could do if you focused the same amount of time and resources on actually bringing people to Christ that you do attacking the Mormon’s religion and faith, a religion who’s foremost belief is the divine nature and saving / atoning mission of Jesus Christ!
The Lord was right; …by their fruits ye shall know them!!
Report Post »teddie888
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 3:18pmBetter than the blk Muslim we have now
Report Post »beebacksoon
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 6:10pmGULFPEG: I’d rather have ANYONE of ANY religion than the radical muslim now in office.
Report Post »togrotten
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 9:21pmThose of you so concerned with the Mormon doctrine of man becoming gods should read history from earlier than the 1800′s.
St. Athanasius, an early Christian father that was a part of the first Council of Nicea said the following:
“The Son of God became man so that we might become God.”
He’s not the only one. It is a very common doctrine that was taught in the early church, but seems to have disappeared over time. Does that make it a doctrine that is wrong? You decide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divinization_%28Christian%29
Report Post »The Noodle Fish
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 9:55pmMuslim is now a dirty word in this country? Pathetic. Pathetic religious bigotry. I’m amazed by how hateful some of my own fellow libertarians and conservatives are. I’d be happy with either a Mormon (except Romney or Huntsman *mini puke*) or a Muslim, as long as they stood by the constitution and did their job effectively.
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 2:38amYou mean Republican.. Democrats are the devils spawn…
Report Post »HankScram
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 11:35pmMark Twain read the book of mormon. Here is a small part of what he thought:
The book seems to be merely a prosy detail of imaginary history, with the Old Testament for a model; followed by a tedious plagiarism of the New Testament. The author labored to give his words and phrases the quaint, old-fashioned sound and structure of our King James’s translation of the Scriptures; and the result is a mongrel–half modern glibness, and half ancient simplicity and gravity. The latter is awkward and constrained; the former natural, but grotesque by the contrast. Whenever he found his speech growing too modern–which was about every sentence or two—he ladled in a few such Scriptural phrases as “exceeding sore,“ ”and it came to pass,” etc., and made things satisfactory again. “And it came to pass” was his pet. If he had left that out, his Bible would have been only a pamphlet.
Report Post »HankScram
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 11:42pmWATCHMANY2K
you have your stats wrong on the mormon church membership. they say its 14 million, but they count everyone who ever signed up and every kid who was baptized at age 8. most people leave after they sign up. Its probably because of the internet – any curious members can research the history of the mormon church. Once they do that, its out the door.
See, the mormon church hides its history. even members on the blaze have no idea of their own church’s history. people post historical facts about the church and mormons respond saying its anti-mormon rhetoric. Why? Because they don’t know its true. They never hear it in church. But with the internet its easy to find joseph smith, brigham young and others own writings – you don’t need to go further than their own words. Book of Abraham scrolls, kinderhook plates, sermons by mormon prophets that used to be part of the church’s official scripture but have been removed . . . for obvious reasons.
Go do your own research, unless you don’t want to make waves. That’s why its one of the quickest shrinking religions. membership is more like 4 million. just ask any mormon how many are supposedly in their ward – and how many actually really go to church. self-reporting in census in brazil, phillipines, etc. is about 20% of what church claims. Why? They leave sometime after joining when they find out its a fraud. its a dying religion.
Report Post »joyfulmom
Posted on July 19, 2011 at 8:06amI see a lot of false teachers on your list….most I never heard of.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:22amMany of the Jews, especially Nehemiah and Ezra, were initiates of the Masonic mysteries. They directed all the Masons within the midst of the Jews to make the journey from babylon to Jerusalem with their swords by their sides and trowels in their hands.
Report Post »http://www.christian-restoration.com/fmasonry/hiram.htm
tower7femacamp
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:39amHarry Reid is a MORMON
and won what I call a questionable election in Nevada
Diebold And The Mormon Mason Handshake
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AltWritersFiles/message/5547
http://www.sltrib.com/faith/ci_13629152
Report Post »Jack2011
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:00amHarry Reid won because at the last minute they pulled voter shenanigans like not having to give a photo ID in the polling station,e tc. Illegal aliens voted for him in droves.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 10:01amThanks for this info Fema….I held nothing against Romney for being a Mormon.. he is way too liberal.for me….but Reid being a Mormon…now I like him even less.
Report Post »joel228
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 12:41amSpeaking as a Mormon, Harry Reid is an embarasment.
Report Post »NotFooled
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 2:04amI would be fine with a Mormon. Just as I would a Jewish or Protestant one, as long as it is not their church that calls the shots in our government. JFK Jr caught so much heat for being a Catholic. As a Catholic myself I have a big problem with the beliefs of Mormons, but as an American I believe that they should be able to serve our Nation without prejudice. Our different faiths are personal communion with the all might. Our loyalties should be with each other and our Nation.
“One Nation under God”
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:20amExcept for Moslems, I don‘t much care about a President’s religion. Nixon was a Quaker (Society of Friends).
And what’s all this stink about Mormons lately? I don’t grasp any of it. While I don’t follow the Mormon faith, I can’t find a thing to say against them. Why are MSM iberals so ‘fearful’ of them?
Report Post »Bot
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:26amLiberals are afraid of Mormons because they, similar to Evangelicals, have a moral compass in their lives, and are not swayed by Political Correctness. A notable exception, however, is Harry Reid.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:29am@Bot
Harry Reid seems an ‘exception’ even among strains of virus.
Report Post »mils
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:13amBOT
Report Post »good comment.
People need a level head .
ccr
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:22amIMO, many of those that oppose Mormons are supposedly “religious” Americans who SAY they love the Constitution YET they totally disrespect Article 6! The DO apply a religious test for office! Where overt or covert, there ARE religious bigots against Mormons. And they come from the right.
Of course, there are bigots on the left, but I think using religion to “buy” votes is WRONG & no better than any disgust those religious right find with the “left”.
Many employers specifically look/hire Mormons because of their honesty/moral character. (There are ALWAYS exceptions to that moral/honest…..I’ve known some…….but that is a general trait.)
For Romney, ask yourself: 1) Does he LEAD like a preacher when Governor? 2) Did he LEAD like a preacher when turning around the economic situation of the Olympics? 3) Did he LEAD like a preacher when running Bain? (altho since that is private, that is less than a problem, I would think)
If he did not, look at his RECORD of EXPERIENCE. I KNOW he is NOT perfect, but I don’t think GLENN BECK is perfect either! His holier than thou attacks on Romney I dislike and observe how GB gives “passes” to the records of others more easily supported by Beck’s “FreedomWorks.
Attacks on religious items will come from the right & the left. When it comes from the Religious Right……..I find it even more disturbing!! THEY should understand and live their religion better….as they “profess”. This film
Report Post »Look4DBigPicture
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 11:12amGood assessment, BOT. Too many libs have no moral compass, nor do they understand people who do. Soros will fund any shallow evil organization that demonizes people who have a belief in something greater than themselves. Non-believers think they are superior and see us as fools, but we know God is supreme and people are all equal and in our country, free to believe as we wish.
Mormons come in all different ‘flavors’, just as other religions (some radical/some moderate). Most sane people of the 21st century are no longer staunch followers of a book, but are followers of a spiritual God connection for their guidance to become a better man or woman. Although there are still radicals in our country, most religions in America focus on love, acceptance, and forgiveness. Everything else is superfluous.
Report Post »tketterer
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 11:48amCan’t find anything wrong? It is flat out false prophecy, fraud. Read An american fraud; one lawyers case agains mormonism by kay burningham and educate yourself.
Report Post »Utahcatholic
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 12:25pm@Upstate NY,
You don’t grasp it because you live in NY not in Utah. I am a former easterner relocated to Utah 2 years ago. While I find the LDS people very nice, helpful, wholesome(mostly), commited, non-threatening……..they are also exculsionary, shunning(if you’re not one of them), clannish to a fault, cultlike, controlling(utah lawmaking, liquor laws…WOW), if you don’t drink or use caffeine….fine, but don‘t pass laws telling me I can’t or shouldn’t.
I could not vote for Romney or Huntsman(although his son went to a Catholic high school) and I’ve met him. The ONLY TRUE BEST candidate is Ron Paul, can he win or even get the nomination? I don’t realistically think so.
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 3:17pmMormons are good people who follow a moral code we can all admire, but I’d have a lot of trouble voting for one. I don’t just want a President who’s good, I want one who’s smart. It would rub me the wrong way to vote for someone who claims to believe in a religion that’s based on a scripture that is obviously a fraud made up by a con man. The Bible may contain much that’s exaggerated, but at least we can prove that some of it is true. There really were such people as Hebrews and Egyptians and Romans and Babylonians, and the existence of some of the specific individuals can be independently verified. The Book of Mormon is entirely a work of fantasy from beginning to end. Not one person or place in it has any more basis in reality than those in The Lord of the Rings. And it’s not even well written. The style is just an inferior pastiche of the King James Bible – a not very well-educated guy’s idea of what a Bible was supposed to sound like. Why would a book that’s supposed to be the revealed word of God read like a cheesy imitation of a specific translation of the Bible from two-hundred years earlier?
Report Post »jcannon98188
Posted on July 18, 2011 at 3:50amTruthfully, anti-Mormon rhetoric has been the same since the founding of our faith. People have preached hate against the Mormon faith because if it is true, it presents a very real threat to the current power structure in the Christian faith. They have to attack us, because if the Mormon faith is right, then theirs is wrong.
Report Post »Jack2011
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:18amMy God, this site is SLOW in posting comments with web-links.
I also suspect that anything critical of mormons is being CENSURED from this website.
I will continue waiting to see if my links and short comment post.
Report Post »jordy2010
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 11:09am@ Jack2011
Boo hoo, boo hoo, boo hoo………..and it’s spelled ”censored”
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 3:35pmThat’s because jokers in the past have posted links to irrelevant commercial advertising, obscene materials, and scholarly-sounding but flagrantly false treatises from crackpot pseudo-historians full of provable misinformation.
Report Post »momsense
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:15amWhy should this man’s religion even be a problem? We have no religious test for any office thanks to the foresight of the founders.This shouldbe a non-issue, and the only people using it are those who fear Godly Christian people who actually practice their beliefs, and not the Marxist infiltrated churches.
Report Post »eubanksray
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:14amAbsolutely….If glenn beck were president
Report Post »freedomweiner
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:07amI don`t consider the politicians running Mormons. They are Regressives.
Report Post »Gypsy123
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:06amIt is not the religion it is the person and their ability to lead in a decent way
Report Post »The Catbird
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:03amWhen I’m voting for president, I’m part of a “Pastoral search committee”. And as its been said earlier, we have a crypto-muslim(and/or atheist) president so an LDS POTUS is a bit anticlimactic.
Report Post »0dysseus
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:58amNo big deal in the U S of A. We’ve even had a Catholic president.
Report Post »pazzo242
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:13am“We’ve even had a Catholic president.” Oh that’s a classy remark. My thought is we have a Muslin Communist right now so what’s wrong with a Mormon….I’ll take that anyday over a Muslim.
Report Post »MrsMomAZ
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 4:22pmI remember the huge outcry when John F. Kennedy was campaigning for POTUS. The media and his opponents warned of Rome dictating the policies of the United States as the Holy Roman Empire did for centuries in the past. Kennedy overcame religious opposition from both parties to win the election. Those fears of the Pope dictating policy to the President were baseless. Unfortunately, as Glenn has pointed out numerous times, there are always the men in the shadows to which he may be obligated to. Fabian Socialists, Skull & Bones etc. Those affiliations need to be brought into the light of day. If the LDS or Catholic churches controlled their members actions neither Reid or Pelosi would be the members of their churches today. Disagree with Mitt Romney on his record, platform and use the questions about the Constitution as a litmus test but don’t be fooled into voting against him as a viable candidate based on his membership in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. BTW, I find it very interesting that the makers of the above film chose an ACTOR that looks much more like ROMNEY THAN JOSEPH SMITH.
Report Post »cece959
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:57amWhy not…we were apparently ready for a Communist president.
Report Post »Bot
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:29amOnly people watching Fox News knew that we had a socialist, anti-American, Marxist, and Communist running for president. Any others influenced by the MSM thought they were getting “Hope and Change”.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:55amcan we be free to openly discus different religions here ?
Report Post »DonaldH
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:54amLet me see now, to live in a country whose leader is influenced by the religious teaching of Joseph Smith or someone named Muhammad,, give me a micro second to think about this one!!! Ummm, I’m gonna keep my head and go with the guy named Joseph…….
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:01amYes why not? .. we have this guy now ….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M
I think a Mormon would be a GOOD STEP up!
TEA!
Report Post »booger71
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:49amI lived in the “Mormon Country” of Idaho and Wyoming for 2.5 years. What I found was a group of people that worked hard, generous, and wanted to raise their families in peace. They went out of their way to be helpful and inclusive, and did not look down upon me for being non-Mormon. They have some skeletons in their closets (Joseph Smith), but doesn’t Protestants and Catholics have them too?
Report Post »freedomweiner
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:11amThese aren`t the Mormons we grew up with. They are politicians.
Report Post »SonOfThunder
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:46amIf Romney is the nominee, I am voting for him even though he is not a christian and a heathen. As long as he is biblically moral, of good character and integrity, he will be miles better the cry baby-in-chief.
Mormonism is certainly a cult by definition and many are deceived in the LDS church. To claim that Jesus was the brother of Lucifer and not God makes mormonism a cult. Mormons do not believe in the Trinity. That makes you not a Christian. When you have the wrong Jesus, you have the wrong salvation. Sorry my mormons friends, you ought to study the only book that is the Word of God, the Bible. The Book of Mormon is the work of a false prophet Joseph Smith.
Jesus said “Beware of false prophets” (Matthew 7:15) and the Apostle John warned that “many false prophets are gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1).
Deuteronomy 18:20-22
20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.” 21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.
Here is one example of many of Smith false prophecies:
Report Post »Joseph Smith – A city shall be built, New Jerusalem [State of Missouri], in which a temple shall be reared in this generation — Doct
tower7femacamp
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:02amI Honestly believe that Politics and religion should
NEVER mix.
I do not even want the Govt to issue marriage certificates
Report Post »Why do we give govt the power to sanctify a union between
2 people ?
Lux
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:14amI knew it wouldn’t take long for the anti-mormon bigots to appear. I’ll be prayen for you buddy.
Report Post »BettyO
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:01amMormon… The Church of Jesus “Christ” of Latter-day Saints. Jesus Christ teachings is the cornerstone. To say they are not “Christian” is a fallacy.
Report Post »joodgy-woodgy puddin -n- pie
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:32amI just had to take issue with the whole trinity thing you are espousing. The trinity doctrine that you are clinging to is not in the Bible. It cannot be found anywhere in the Bible. It is a man made doctrine. It comes from the Niceen Creed. The Niceen Creed came about because a man, in about the year 300 A.D., was preaching that God and Jesus were separate people. The ruling theological leaders could not tollerate a divergance from their rule as this man was gaining a significant following.
So the Niceen Creed was concieved and the man was tried and martyred for blasphamy.
I have read the entire New Testament and most of the Old Testament, and nowhere have I read about the “Trinity.”
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 11:58amJoodgyWoodgy.. Better read your scriptures again!
Luke 3:22
22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
Report Post »bpete
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 12:53pmMormons may not be mainstream Christians, but they follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and accept Him as God and Savior.
The Trinity concept, as Pie mentioned, is not a Biblical concept, but man-made.
The Mormon belief of the Godhead – a unified counsel of separate beings – contradicts/upholds the words of the Bible every bit as much as the mainstream belief of the Trinity. Jesus praying to / talking to God can be explained with both concepts. The Mormon Godhead easily explains it as two separate beings in communication with each other. The mainstream Trinity explains it as a Christian mystery, one that cannot be understood by someone who is less than Divine, but a Divine God can be three distinct and coexistent persons and still one God.
Mormons may be wrong, Son, but you are certainly wrong. And Mormons are simply non-traditional Christians.
Report Post »DGeezy11
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 4:55pmABBYGIRL1994 – Did you just seriously quote a scripture (Luke 3:22) to prove the trinity, that is funny because that verse is used to disprove the trinity. Lets break it down, 1.No where does it say the word trinity in it, nor is that word found anywhere in the KJV of the bible. 2. This verse is in relation to Jesus being baptized so it is showing the Holy Spirit came as a dove (there is one place) Jesus is in the water (there is two places) and God’s voice comes from heaven saying “Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased”(there is three different places, not to mention the fact that if the trinity was true that would mean that Jesus would be saying he was proud of himself. Which is pride, which would mean He wasn’t perfect). They are three separate and distinct beings, God has the form of a man, it would be hard to be created in the image of a shape shifting blob. I know you are going to say well He is God, he can do what ever he wants to do, and that my friend is not a strong argument, that is a cop out.
Report Post »joel228
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 12:33amSonofthunder, Moses told the tribes of Israel they would go to a land of milk and honey. Instead they wandered in the wilderness for 40 years and only a couple of that generation made it to the promised land. Does that make Moses a false prophet? Does that invalidate the word of God to those people? I’ll grant that you could argue over what makes a prophesy verses a promise but either one can be based on the actions, faith and obedience of the people. The prophet Jonah that was swallowed by a big fish later told the people of Nineveh that they would be destroyed because of their iniquity. He then waited and waited and was disappointed that it did not happen. He then got another lesson from the Lord when he showed more compassion for a tree than people.
Joseph Smith later received a revelation as to why those people were denied building the New Jerusalem (sec 124). It will still happen and probably after great distress in this nation. I always say keep one eye on Jerusalem and the other on Jackson County Missouri. It may or may not be in my lifetime but things are starting to accelerate. Joseph Smith accurately predicted the civil war. Read Section D&C sec 87 http://lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/87?lang=eng. That section also talks about a full end of all nations when Christ comes.
Report Post »If you read the New Testament it sounds like all the Apostles thought the second coming would be in their lifetimes. Even some purported words of Jesus sounds that way.
joel228
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 12:48amAs to Mormons believing that Jesus and Satan are brothers, by what definition do you make that claim? It’s a tired old argument that takes things grossly out of context.
But I have another question for you. Is God the creator of all things? If so he must have created Satan. Why do you believe that a perfect and just God would create something so evil or evil even in the least degree (like all of us)? If you can answer that maybe there would be some hope in educating you about the relationship of Jesus and Satan (and all of humanity).
Report Post »dleoburns
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 10:45amWhat definition ( cult )? How do you define Christian? Where are your references?
Report Post »dleoburns
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 11:32amLucifer is called “son of the morning” in Isaiah 14:12 ( Authorized King James Version ). What does that title mean?
Report Post »mallen15
Posted on July 21, 2011 at 12:57amMan perverted Christ’s teaching, the restored gospel corrected it. The book of Mormon ask for its readers to pray to God with real intent whether these things are true, and if you do with faith, the Holy Ghost will make it known to you. So I guess giving someone a chance to find out for their self, instead of shoving it down their throats is a sign of a “Cult”. when will the persecution end
Report Post »Living In NYC
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:45amRight now we have communist / marxist racist leading our country…The right Morman would be ok…I supported Mitt in 2008..but he is not the right man for the job in 2012.
We need a conservative President that meets the values of our country not some one who is in it for a party and I don’t mean a third party…The future President could be a democrat or republican as long as he/she is a true conserative!
Our next President must understands American Exceptionalism, American History and the Amercian Spirit which is Free Will not Government Oppression!
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:48amI don‘t care about a man’s religion as long as the Bilderbergs
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/bilderberg-behind-rick-perry-2012-run.html
tower7femacamp
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:54amI predicted the media would use Mitts faith to disqualify him
He will have to deal with the curse of the Blacks that was part of the
Report Post »Mormon belief in the past.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon132.html
SlimnRanger
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:57am@ Living In NYC,very well said,i have no fault really with the Mormans,i just don‘t want Romney or Huntsman in the White House not because of their religious beliefs but because they are both true RINO’s
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:41amAMERICA NEEDS a real CHRISTIAN leader in OUR HOUSE!
What we do not need is what we have: a traitorous b****** (true!), communist, marxist, socialist, godless, arrogant heathen who hates AMERICA in OUR HOUSE, even as a busboy, much less the pretender in chief.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:04amlike the Bohemian Grovers ?
all hail Molech the God of Abortion
Report Post »tranymike
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:35amwe will have to try that some other time sorry mormons 2012 is for ron paul and the tea party
Report Post »joodgy-woodgy puddin -n- pie
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:47amThis is one Mormon who agrees. Not because of his faith but because of his POLICIES!!!
Report Post »Lux
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:34amThat is exactly what this country needs, A righteous God fearing leader in the white house.
Report Post »blackcatrun
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:34amDont have a problem with morons in office……. just have a problem Mitt Romney. Not his faith but his political stands the guys a walking wind sock. A bowl of jello. Obama had the same type of campain about his coler.
Report Post »Political opertunist wants his name in bright lights and history books.
No thanks I will pass on voting for that mormon Mitt at this time. I wish Mitt luck in other endevers just not his bid to run the nation.
bpete
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 1:03pmI have a problem with morons in office, even if you don’t.
Report Post »We don’t need any more like Pelosi, Reid, and Obama. :)
Susie
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:31amSome of the actions of Romney and Hunstman – (and Harry Reid for that matter), would in my opinion, not show a compatibility with what I’ve learned of Mormon Doctrine. Additionally, it is so hard to believe that the Mormon Church will get a fair shake. That might be an historical first !!!!!!
Report Post »So far the mainstream media seems to be hands-off the subject, but that’s only because these two candidates are not seen as a serious threat to their beloved Progressivism, like say someone like Glenn Beck would be.
joel228
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 11:59pmUnfortunately that is very true. I might entertain Romney if he is the republican candidate but for Huntsman I would have to do another McCann thing and hope I can at least vote for the VP (Palin).
Report Post »tketterer
Posted on July 17, 2011 at 4:18pmWaa Waa we mormons are so persecuted. We didn’t massacre anyone at mountain meadows, we didn’t wreak havoc in Missouri, Jo Jo Smith didn’t destroy the press or burn the building of the critical newspaper in nauvoo and run away until emma called him back. Boo frickin hoo you have no idea of your cults history.
Report Post »noline
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:30amA Mormon is as good as anyone but Mitt Romney. Nope no way. Unfortunately I can foresee that it’s gonna be Romney/Huntsman
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:59amBy the 1840s, however, Smith and several of the most prominent Mormons had become Freemasons, and founded a lodge in Nauvoo, Illinois in March 1842. Soon after joining Freemasonry, Smith introduced a new temple “Endowment” ceremony including a number of symbolic elements that were essentially identical with their analogues within Freemasonry. Smith remained a Freemason until his death; however, later Mormon leaders distanced themselves from Freemasonry. In modern times, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), the predominant Mormon organization, holds no position for or against the compatibility of Masonry with LDS Church doctrine.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:05amA significant numbers of leaders in the early Latter Day Saint movement were Masons prior to their involvement in the movement. Notable examples include Brigham Young, Heber C. Kimball, John C. Bennett, Hyrum Smith and Joseph Smith, Sr.
In the early 1840s a Masonic Lodge was formed by LDS Church members who were Freemasons. Joseph Smith, Jr. and his brother Hyrum became members of the newly formed Nauvoo lodge. It appears that John C. Bennett had a particularly strong influence in the spread of Freemasonry, and soon over 1,500 Mormon men in the city of Nauvoo were practicing Masons. LDS historian Reed Durham writes:
“By 1840, John Cook Bennett, a former active leader in Masonry had arrived in Commerce and rapidly exerted his persuasive leadership in all facets of the Church, including Mormon Masonry. … Joseph and Sidney [Rigdon] were inducted into formal Masonry … on the same day…“ being made ”Masons on Sight” by the Illinois Grandmaster.(”Is There No Help for the Widow’s Son?” by Dr. Reed C. Durham, Jr., as printed in “Joseph Smith and Masonry: No Help for the Widow’s Son”, Martin Pub. Co., Nauvoo, Ill., 1980, p. 17.) (This freed Joseph from having to complete the ritual and memorization necessary to work one’s way through the first three degrees.) Making one “A Mason on Sight” is generally reserved as an honor and is a rarity in occurrence.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 8:17amAfter receiving instruction in the proper communication of the substitute for the Master’s Word, the candidate is then instructed in regards to the Grand Hailing Sign of Distress. It is given by raising both hands toward heaven, with each arm forming the angle of a square, or a 90 degree angle. The arms are then lowered in three distinct motions to the sides. In other words, ending with both arms in the natural downward position, such as when one is standing at
“Furthermore, I do promise and swear that I will not give the Grand Hailing Sign of Distress of a Master Mason, except for the benefit of the Craft while at work or for the instruction of a Brother, unless I am in real distress; and should I see the sign given, or hear the word spoken, I will hasten to the relief of the person so giving it.”
The candidate is additionally instructed, however, that if he is in a place where the sign could not be seen, he is to utter a substitute for the sign: “O Lord, my God, is there no help for the Widow’s Son?” He is additionally advised that the sign and these words are never to be given together.
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joel228
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 11:55pmA significant number of this country’s founding fathers were Freemasons. What do you have against an organization that promotes high morals and values?
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Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:25amI don’t care for either of the Mormon candidates because they are too liberal. Their religion is not an issue to me at all.
Report Post »Obama Bin Lying
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:34amWhy does religion have to play a part in it? A black guy (christian) is ruining the country. No one seemed to care that he was in experienced, that he hated America, that he sat in the pews for 20 years while Rev. Wright spread his hatred and racism. They voted him in anyway.
That article is nothing but a leftist smear and fear campaign to ruin Romney’s chances.
Report Post »mickrussom
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:04amWhy not, we have a communist crypto-Muslim african in the POTUS chair.
Report Post »poppinbeaners
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:14amMy thoughts exactly!
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:20amYeah, after what we have now I think only a literal pod person could be worse.
Report Post »DGeezy11
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:23amThe Mormons are never in debt, they run their finances quite well so I don’t see why not. It would be better then the joke for president we have now…
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:57amthe mormons also are prevalent in the CIA
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DGeezy11
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 4:33pmTOWER7FEMACAMP – If you are going to discuss a religion why don’t you discuss one you know. I can tell by what you are posting you are clearly not LDS so why do you think you can possible discuss their beliefs? I am a member and most of what you are posting is inaccurate, misleading, or writings from angry excommunicated members that are obviously going to show the LDS church in a bad light. Discuss whatever religion you are, and let the LDS members discuss what their religion believes. Thank you
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 9:59pmDGEE please correct any errors I have made, that is how we grow and learn
Report Post »but so far I see no exact detail as to which part of Mormon religion I am wrong on.
Just telling me I don’t know proves nothing.
HankScram
Posted on July 19, 2011 at 12:07amthe mormon prophets are worse the Jeremiah Wright. Mormon church preached racism until 1978 when its tax-exempt status was in jeopardy. Here is the kicker. The mormon church has not even apologized or admitted it was wrong to exclude blacks from the priesthood. Seriously, you can’t even get a mormon to say it was wrong, let alone to apologize for it. At least Obama said Wright was wrong. Obama has shown himself to be much more of a Christian than the mormon church. Most members are okay, but they just don’t know the truth about the mormon church. Wish they would do their research like Glen says. Many do research it – then they leave. That’s why membership is really more like 4 million instead of the 14 million they claim. Another example of moral dishonesty – the mormon church can’t own up to the fact that people are leaving in droves. Blame the internet – information is power.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 7:59amThe Mormon Church does not recognize plural marriage. You are WAY behind the times. Those who do practive plural marriage are outside of the mainstream Mormons.
Report Post »gramma b
Posted on July 16, 2011 at 12:06pmMormons don’t practice polygamy. But, at least polygamy makes biological sense. Gay “marriage” is just sick and wrong.
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