Cops: Off-Duty ATF Agent Shot Dead While Intervening in Pharmacy Heist
- Posted on January 1, 2012 at 3:42pm by
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(AP) An off-duty federal law enforcement agent responding to a pharmacy robbery on Long Island was fatally shot along with the heist suspect, who had taken money and painkillers from the store before he was killed Saturday.
The off-duty Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agent died after being taken to a hospital with a gunshot wound, Nassau County police Lt. Kevin Smith said.
The ATF identified the fallen agent as John Capano, 51, a 23 veteran of the agency, who lived in Massapequa and was married with two children.
Rory O’Connor, assistant special agent in charge in the ATF’s New York office, said Capano was a customer at the pharmacy when he chose to intervene in the robbery and apprehend the suspect. “During the course of the struggle, John was shot,” O’Connor said.
He described Capano as a “very dedicated, aggressive agent” who, as a trained explosives expert, taught U.S. military and local forces in Afghanistan and Iraq how to do blast investigations.
“He was a veteran agent who did his job well,” O’Connor said. “Even though off-duty, he felt the need to take action in an attempt to protect the public from a known robber.”
Nassau County police said the unidentified man entered the pharmacy in Seaford and announced a robbery about 2 p.m., looking for painkillers and money. Police said that as the man was leaving the store, he was confronted by three individuals — the ATF agent, an off-duty city police officer and a retired Nassau County police officer.
Shots rang out, and the suspect was struck, the painkillers and cash dropping to the ground, Smith said. The ATF agent also was wounded.
Smith said it was not immediately clear who shot the ATF agent, or how or why the off-duty officer and retired officer arrived at the location at about the same time.
The ATF agent was taken to Nassau County Medical Center in East Meadow, where he died. The NYPD officer and retired police officer also were taken to the hospital to be treated for trauma.
Police closed off the sidewalk with tape and covered the body with a white sheet while they investigated, said Razov Felice, owner of an Italian restaurant located down the street. Felice said the area has been struggling with a growing tide of prescription drug abuse.
“There is a lot of problem in Long Island with these drugs,” Felice said. “I don’t know what people are thinking. The more people talk about these drugs, the more people are trying them.”
The shooting occurred about 30 miles west of another Long Island pharmacy where four people were gunned down by a drug addict during a robbery in June on Father’s Day.
Nationwide, armed robberies at pharmacies rose 81 percent between 2006 and 2010, from 380 to 686, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.
There have been a number of incidents in which New York-area police have fired at off-duty officers who were responding to a crime.
In March, an off-duty Metropolitan Transportation Authority police authority officer shot a Nassau County police officer who was in plainclothes and carrying a rifle. Both men were responding to a crime scene in the town of Massapequa Park.
In May, a New York Police Department officer shot and killed an off-duty colleague who was carrying a gun while chasing a suspected car thief in East Harlem.
In 2008, Westchester County police officers killed an off-duty officer from the New York suburb of Mount Vernon, N.Y. as he was intervening in a fight.
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Comments (90)
Kopfjager
Posted on January 2, 2012 at 7:21amMy comments are from my experiences in over 27 years of police work in a very violent city and having been in numerous shootouts during that time period.
#1 Unless you are/were a cop who has been in deadly force situations, you have no clue as to what you are talking about. You may have an opinion, but that is all it is.
#2 That agent had to make a decision right there. He saw the situation, probably judge the risks involved and made a decision to act. God bless him for having the guts to act when he didn’t have to. It was his decision alone to make and he made the ultimate sacrifice. I will not sit in judgement of my fallen brother.
#3 Arm chair quarter backs, go back to being the critics of the NFL. To say he should not have intervened and just been a good witness. CRAP. I don’t care if your a cop or not, that is the problem with this country, evereyone wants to let things go if it deals with any risk. I worked the streets my entire career and real street cops can not just let things go, it’s not in them and it makes them who they are.
#4 Death is an occupational hazard for real street cops. We know that there can never be a retreat on the street because the streets are worse then ever and not only are we under attack on the streets (assaults on police are up) the DOJ under Obama is also attacking cops.
God bless our cops (especially the 5 %’s) and our military and God bless the family of those fallen heros. May their sacrifice be an example to weak.
Report Post »Archstone
Posted on January 2, 2012 at 8:54amHear them cry out if an off-duty offcer does not intervene. Incidentally, there is no such thing as an off-duty officer, as seen here. Officers know each day may be their last, as they head out to protect the upstanding citizens and the dirtbags alike. Overworked and horribly underpaid, I say.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on January 2, 2012 at 10:59am“…An off-duty federal law enforcement agent responding to a pharmacy robbery…”
Report Post »Since when is an ATF agent responsible for responding to robbery calls, especially when ‘off duty’? He was sticking his nose in where it had no business.
Wolf
Posted on January 2, 2012 at 11:02am“…Unless you are/were a cop …” blah blah blah- typical Only One response. If someone isn‘t or wasn’t an Only One, then they’re not worthy of carrying a weapon or interferring in such situations.
Report Post »What BS- typical, though.
Viet Vet
Posted on January 2, 2012 at 3:39amI see the cop hating Libertarians are out. Another of the many traits they share with the left.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on January 3, 2012 at 6:29amViet Vet
Report Post »Sounds to me like you might be one of those bad cops that follow the code of protecting your own when they are wrong. That is why people have lost respect for cops in general. Weed out the bad cops if you want the respect back the force once had.
Wolf
Posted on January 3, 2012 at 10:43amI don’t hate cops- hell, if not for cops my doughnut shops would go bankrupt.
Report Post »jeffshepard007
Posted on January 2, 2012 at 1:08amUntil any of you are confronted with this type of situation, you have absolutely zero business saying what you would or would not do at all. I have been in this situation, and came out ok. I got lucky. Try having a gun stuck to your face, and your money or your life demanded from you. Then and only then are you allowed to get on here and talk negatively about what this brave man sacrificed and died for. SHAME on any of you who have disgraced this man for doing nothing but what he was sworn to do, which none of you will ever understand, because you have never taken that oath, thankfully so.
Report Post »Viet Vet
Posted on January 2, 2012 at 3:31amThis version is poorly written. Leaves out a whole bunch of information that is known. It’s possible that one of the other two officers (off-duty and retired) who came across the street from the retired officers establishment may have ended up shooting the ATF agent. Either accidentally or not knowing who was who. But the investigation will determine how he died. Too bad he only wounded the perp with the first shot at the door.
Report Post »Cabreramiggs
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 11:59pmArm the citizens and take the guns away from the cops…at least in California.
Report Post »Blazeanswerman
Posted on January 2, 2012 at 1:09amI agree. Arm the “Law abiding” citizens which will make these low life’s think again. It is a sad horrible day to hear of a federal law enforcement agent being gunned down but it’s more of a horrible story to hear that we are not allow to enter most establishments due to the “no gun in these premises” signs being posted outside of Banks, Jewelry stores, Drug stores, and liquor stores. I would think that criminals read the sign and laugh then rob, wound, or kill. How tragic has our society become.
Report Post »SilentReader
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 10:47pmTragic. My condolences go to his family and children. RIP John Capano.
Report Post »Doctor Nordo
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 10:43pmYet so many misguided people denounce Ron Paul for his desire to federally decriminalize drugs. Wake up people! Unless you outlaw ever single drug, including ones that are legal (both precription and OTC), people who want to get high will find a way. And even if you do make them all illegal people will STILL invent new ways to get high.
Report Post »Bob DD
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 8:35pm*******SHOOTING SCENES CAN BE DANGEROUS TO ALL INVOLVED***********
As a former Police Sgt.,Deputy Sheriff, and special state police officer, I’ve encountered armed individuals in dangerous situations. As “Chips1” says, ” You have a weapon and responding officers don’t know you from Adam.”
You may be well intentioned trying to stop an assailant from shooting someone, by pulling your weapon, but be unfortunate to have another armed person or an off-duty police officer shoot you. In one department off-duty officers, who chose to intervene, are advised to yell loudly “Police Officer, drop the gun,” two times. Makes sense, so you don’t get shot by some-one else.
Also, KNOW THE LAW IN YOUR JURISDICTION. Know when you can shoot, and when you can’t. Apollo18 mentions a RPh going to jail for life for an improper response to an armed robbery in his store.
Former police officers who chose to get involved may consider yelling out “Retired Police,“ or ”Former Police,” to alert off-duty officers or other armed citizens who you are. Otherwise, inadvertently, it could be open-season on you. It may be wise to carry proof of retirement or former police status, so you can substantiate it on scene. Current officers may consider the possibility of an assailant using a ruse to trick them.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 9:00pmAll very good points Bob.Thanks for your service and advice.
Report Post »Fight for America82
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 10:28pmUhhhh no you’re wrong. Maybe cops shouldn’t be so quick to shoot someone just because they have a gun. They‘re idiots and most of them can’t even shoot a pistol for crap. I thought police were only supposed to shoot suspects that were shooting at them or have threatened their lives. I don’t see how a cop could just walk up and start shooting people without even knowing whats going on. I think it‘s because 90 percent of the believe that they’re the only ones that should have guns so they go in blazing away just because they see a firearm. It’s stupid. If I was there I would have stepped in with my pistol and I’m not a cop.They going to gun me down? The morons need to stay calm and assess the situation before they start blazing away at random people. It’s unfortunate that this happens as often as it does especially when these dummies are usually firing a hundred rounds and only hitting a target 5 times.
Report Post »texasfireguy
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 11:02pmEveryone is an expert, an armchair expert. It is real easy to look at things from your couch and criticize. Until you have been in a high pressure, dangerous situation you shouldn’t speak about something that you have no idea about.
Report Post »gvblaze
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 11:06pmSo, Bob, what you’re saying is that police are so eager to shoot someone with a gun and they are so terrified that they cannot take the time to discern who the bad guys are?
I mean, you didn’t say to words, exactly, but that’s really what you said. In essence you’re telling me, as a weapons carrying private citizen, that in an armed encounter, my biggest danger is the police, is that right? Of course, its a little known statistic, most gun deaths are cause by the police, not private citizens.
Well, thats just wonderful. It just proves my point: cops aren’t there to enforce the law, they are they for statist control, revenue enhancement and other hidden agendas. This revelation you’ve given us only days after the courts have said its OK to limit hiring based on an IQ test. Too smart and a cop might actually realize he’s violating his oath, the constitution and your common law rights.
Wonderful. This does not make me want to trust police for ANYTHING.
I’ve been told before: Don’t talk to the police. Only, now I’ve learned what to say. I say, “Under Common Law, I do not consent and a waive the benefits.” And, if you shoot me I will sue, civilly, the chain of command until I have ruined all of you all the way to the top! You trigger happy psychopaths have no place in this society. Cops used to be respected in the community, now they are feared. Shame on you. All of you!
Report Post »texasfireguy
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 11:20pmSo GV, are they supposed to stop and politely ask the gun wielding individuals on the scene who they are and what their intentions are? “excuse me sir, please don’t point that gun at me”. Here’s a simple solution, if a cop orders you to do something, do it! ‘Put down the gun’ seems pretty simple doesn’t it? If you have a problem with what they did or are doing, deal with it afterwards.
Report Post »Your distrust of the police sounds like paranoia to me. Or someone who is doing stuff they aren’t supposed to do. It has nothing to do with civil rights or liberties. You can try and hide behind it, but I’m not buying it.
gvblaze
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 11:26pmFireguy, thats not what BOB is saying. Certainly if you’re in a situation and police come on the scene and demand I lower my weapon, I would. However, “Otherwise, inadvertently, it could be open-season on you.“ sound sort of like ”Trigger Happy” to me.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on January 2, 2012 at 9:17am@texasfireguy
You saying we all should shutup and listen to you, that knows it all.
Report Post »CulperGang
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 8:30pmThis is afterall said and done is a tragedy. RIP. A message to Oathkeepers:
http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/10355-oath-keepers-launches-effort-to-recall-members-of-congress
keep up the good work, sheriff mack and sheriff arapio. YOU are true patriots.
Report Post »whiskeyrunner
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 7:35pmOne less to worry about!
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 7:52pmCallous, cold and cowardly Whiskey…
Report Post »texasfireguy
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 8:42pmReal classy whiskey.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 9:35pmI just can’t believe one of the ATF would even attempt to stop an Obama supporter from picking up his meds.
Report Post »gvblaze
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 11:18pmThis is callous even in light of “aggressive” ATF agents that violate common and constitutional law while also approving gun sales to Mexican drug cartels so the weapons can come back accross the border to kill Americans to prove a point: Can’t trust the general public with guns. (When its actually the police you can’t trust with guns.)
I mean, this is like three stooges trying to take down a thief. Jackboot ineptitude?
Regardless, Larry, Mo and Curly all had FAMILIES. Yes, one less to worry about, but, I bet the kids and grandkids won’t think about it that way. There will be tears on pillows for these guys. Professionally they are rats that need cleaned from the corncrib of life. I want to see them fired for violating the oath they’ve taken, not fired upon. This is an embarrassing way to go.
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on January 2, 2012 at 7:59amLets review….A man robs a drug store with a fake gun. 911 is called and the first 3 LEO that show up are off duty or retired. Two of the off duty, retired, cops kill both the ATF agent and the man with a plastic gun.
Report Post »OK all you cops out there, with these facts you are all about defending the cops. The only mistakes made here are made by the cops……of which none were supposed to be there.
So, apparently in this city, all retired cops, off duty cops, and off duty federal officers carry police radios, and are much faster to respond than the real on duty cops.
If you go for this crock, you will go for anything you are told.
jakartaman
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 6:09pmI am a concealed gun carrier
Report Post »I would not pull my weapon unless there was imminent danger of myself or family member being hurt.
If there is a robbery – I would just let them go – money is only money.
After saying that as we all know every situation is different and things happen very quickly.
However much much better to have a weapon and not use it than to need a weapon and not have one.
SgtB
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 6:25pmMoney is only money huh…
Well, I guess that makes you one of the majority of people who fail to realize that your money is a representation of a portion of your life that once stolen cannot be regained. If someone tries to rob me, I will undoubtedly pull the trigger and take all of their life for their encroachment upon mine. Theft is one step from slavery. Would you so lightly let someone enslave you or anyone for that matter?
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 6:49pmSGTB, I completely agree… If more thieves were shot, there would be less theives, one way or another.
Jakartaman, I to carry, always. I would not willy nilly intervene, unless human life was at stake or MY Stuff… However, I am not a officer of the law, this barve man was, and he was doing his job, which is 24/7. God Bless him and his family, he is a hero in my eyes!
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges07
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 7:21pmIf I was the cynical type, I’d say this stinks of a “hit” … and it would make me wonder if the target was set up at a known haunt. Some background on the dead ATF agent would help … was he privy to “embarrassing” information or corruption (ATF has been in the news lately)? More background on the other players would help … were they “problem cops”?
Strings are being pulled. Enjoy the puppet show people.
Report Post »2theADDLED
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 7:26pmOokspay
I agree with your views give Police back their authority.
Military standards
Step 1 Call Halt
Step 2 Call Halt & Fire one shot
Step 3 Shoot to mame or kill
Make Hollywood show the real results of disobeying police authority.
Report Post »AirtechJr
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 7:51pmJakartaman,
Well said.
Of course instances like this will only embolden Bloomberg more. ANY use of a firearm for self defense is immoral, unless you are of the elite. If you look at the FBI statistics, cop on cop friendly fire negligent discharges are included in the gun crime numbers.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 8:01pm@2THEADDLED… Whoa easy there Bubba, I m not saying that the police should have more power to just blast away at thieves. I am saying that I SHOULD! Most LE are true heroes and great guys, but many will abuse any increase in power and authority. I am actually a pseudo vigilante, there would be way less crime.
Report Post »Mountain Dew
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 9:15pm@SGTB and OOKSAY And you’re obviously of that mindless minority that talks big until they take a bullet for foolish and stupid reasons. People are stressed to not fight for material things(general rule not universal, of course there are exceptions. I don’t personally believe a heist of a pharmacy that undoubtly has insurance qualifies) because even if you have superior weaponry and skills things can still easily go bad for you once violence erupts. But a couple of ultimate bada$$s like you don’t need to worry about that.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 9:31pm@Mountain Dew, I am not a bad a$$, but you should see my weapons!, I am tired of criminals and a justice system that does not dispense justice… Steal from me and use a weapon, I will shoot you, until you stop moving! You will not steal again! Dew what you gotta dew…
Report Post »texasoysterman
Posted on January 2, 2012 at 6:29am@2THEADDLED
When I went through MP training more than 30 yrs ago, it was pretty simple.
Make a quick assessment of the situation. Identify yourself. Shout appropriate commands.
These were our firing orders:
Draw your weapon only if you intend to fire.
Fire your weapon only if you intend to kill.
No warning shots. No shooting to wound.
I’m sure the training has changed somewhat.
Report Post »sgtstubbs
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 6:05pmOff duty LEO’s have to advise the suspect to halt and drop the gun, because they are still a LEO and have to use the power to arrest. A person who is not a LEO can just spray lead, because all the are required is to feel threatened. Much easier for a citizen to do a little curbside justice.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 5:48pmOff subject but they are just talking about a park ranger being shot at Mt Ranier
Report Post »Zeke48
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 5:46pmIt’s fine to own a gun, but it to know when you don’t have to use it!
Report Post »RightThinking1
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 6:02pm@Zeke
Report Post »You are *very* correct. I sure hope it doesn’t turn out that one of the other law enforcement people caused the gunshot wound. In the heat of the moment, when everyone is in civilian clothes, and unknown to each other, it can be very difficult to know who are the bad guys, and who are the good guys.
chips1
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 5:12pmRule #1. Never get involve when off duty because you have no communications with the dispatcher. You have a weapon and responding officers don’t know you from Adam. Be a good witness. I hope it wasn‘t one of Obama’s weapons.
Report Post »mathews2113
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 5:02pmAnd ron paul wants to legalize drugs. So more people can get hooked on drugs legally.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 5:13pmYup!!
Report Post »salvawhoray
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 5:42pmYou don’t understand what he means, that your problem.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 6:36pmYou are conflating legalizing with moralizing. First off, how many druggies were wandering the streets in 1906 looking for stores and people to rob when you could walk into any corner drugstore and buy any drug or medication that your heart desired and that the purveyor of the establishment would sell? The simple answer is few to none because it is easier to work to feed yourself without fear of criminal prosecution than it is to face a jury of your peers for murder. However, there will always be a criminal aspect of any society that will not go away, so no solution is 100%.
In light of the fact that the U.S. has >1% of its’ population behind bars and holds 25% of the world’s jailed population while only having about 5% of the world’s population, we should start to rethink our strategies. And I say this not because I think other countries criminal justice systems are better, but because our system is creating criminals out of people and fueling criminal industries which has led to the formation of the large mexican drug cartels that feel they can come into the US and kidnap our citizens or just outright kill them.
And on the flip side, we have created a nearly totalitarian police state that is so engrained with the belief that anyone who has a connection to drugs is a criminal that deserves to die, that a Marine cannot even attempt to save his own family from a violent home invasion without being shot >50 times in his own home.
RIP Sgt Jose Guerena / USMC
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoSteenkinBadges07
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 7:11pmmathews2113 – “And ron paul wants to legalize drugs. So more people can get hooked on drugs legally.”
Wrong. NOTHING of itself is “illegal”, unless government declares it “illegal”. And government IS NOT CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED to fool around with medicines. The U.S. Constitution very severely LIMITS government activity to very few areas.
This whole “war on drugs” (that they never seem to win) is just a police-state ploy for an ever more powerful civilian “standing army” that the Founders warned against.
Report Post »gvblaze
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 11:41pmSo, in effect, the illegalization of the little brown bottles REALLY just institutionalized the addiction. Hmm. Yeah! We can collect taxes on that! Which proves Ron Paul’s point: you’re just giving rights over to the state and/or corporatists so they can make money on it while killing grandpa.
Sure sounds better to me! How about you?
Report Post »Slice_Of_Life
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 5:02pmSadly, another tragic loss within the law enforcement community as we mourn the death of yet another one of our brothers in blue. May God Bless Agent John Capano’s family, law enforcement family and many friends as they sadly deal with their tragic loss. Rest in Peace my brother LEO. Rejoice in Heaven, my friend, for we, your brothers and sisters in arms, will continue to fight the good fight here on Earth until it is our time and we are reunited with you in God’s Kingdom. 10-7 End of Watch 12/31/2011.
Agent Capano was at the pharmacy picking up cancer related medication for his elderly father, who is a retired NYPD detective. The elder Capano and family are also grieving the loss of Agent Capano’s mother who passed away approximately two weeks ago after losing a hard fought battle with breast cancer. (TBL)
“The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are as bold as a lion.”
—Proverbs 28:1
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Report Post »SgtB
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 6:39pmHe was an ATF agent. While I believe that his death is tragic, I see it as being no more tragic than any other death. And the fact that he was an ATF agent means that he dedicated his life to allowing our national government to encroach upon the rights of the citizens of this nation. While he may have been a great man to know and had his heart in the right place, his employment tells a different story.
Report Post »gvblaze
Posted on January 2, 2012 at 12:08am“Otherwise, inadvertently, it could be open-season on you.“
“The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are as bold as a lion.”
—Proverbs 28:1
Sounds like it could be open season on those righteous lions. Everyone needs to wake up. Cops are not your friends. They do deter crime somewhat but when an emergency arises, they are not your friend and they will kill you like a dog if they suspect you have a weapon. Its happened too many times. They‘ll murder your pets and they’ll murder your children and they’ll murder you. …and they’ll serve no time. The tin badge shields them from responsibility.
While we like to delude ourselves into thinking increased police presence deters crime, did you know that more crimes-in-progress are stopped by armed civilians that by police by several magnitudes? Now, who do you want protecting you? Cops who may or may not be honorable or have hidden agendas or the REAL reason crime isn’t higher than it is, the armed private citizen?
Armed citizens are the real enforcers empowered by Common Law and Constitutional Law, not the police. We are the constitutional militia, like it or not, that have responsibility to protect this country. The police are born from an unConstitutional desire for greater central control.
…being necessary for the security of a free state… And, I’m telling you right now, crime certainly threatens the security of a free state. So, who is constitutionally authorized? You. Not co
Report Post »Utahcatholic
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 4:54pmCondolences to the family of the agent. God be with you.
My son is in law enforcement and he always carries when he is off duty. I fear him getting involved with a perp when he is off duty and then shot by an on duty or other off duty cops who just see him with a weapon then act themselves. I would bet that the agent was shot by one of the off duty cops.
Report Post »NeoKong
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 4:50pmHas anyone noticed that of the four policemen who have been shot in this report that three of them were shot by other cops….?
Report Post »stillapatriot
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 5:07pmNEOKONG This is what I was referring to in my post “Can anyone say ”DEPARTED”
Think With Me
Report Post »stillapatriot
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 4:33pmGod be with the surviving family and kin of this man; may they remember the good of his life adn that this good lives on in each of them and all he helped for the better.
Report Post »Taxpayer550
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 4:32pmIn a pharmacy where there are usually security cameras everywhere, there is no reason why the on-duty pharmacist shouldn’t have a legal firearm handy.
Report Post »apollo18
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 5:41pmI’m all for concealed-carry rights. Get yourself armed AND trained, please. CONTACT LOCAL LAW-ENFORCEMENT! Set up an appointment, in your store (whatever), with the “Crime Prevention Bureau”, or whatever they call it. Invite the Officer/deputy to visit, do a survey, answer all your questions, get an idea of current trends in your neighborhood. Then discuss the DO‘s and DO NOT’s !!! You’ll only get one chance if, God forbid, it ever happens to you. (Remember last year, another RPh was sentenced to life in prison, for an improper response to an armed robbery in his store. The consequences are the biggest you will ever face in your entire life. If they’re are misinterpreted, you will stop being the “victim” and become the “villain”, in the blink of an eye. Contact your attorney. Get his advice. The insurance agent that handles your business coverage.
Report Post »One other thing: Consider installing a “salley-port” type exit at your main exit, with video coverage. Idea being that someone would exit through the first set of doors and be inside a bullet-resistant compartment before exiting a second set of doors. Many pawn shops have a similar arrangement. But get the best advice from a VERY EXPERIENCED crime-prevention officer, that knows your area. Base your decisions on well established practices and current expectations to protect as many as possible. Professionals are predictable, amateurs are not. And Hope is not a plan. This may pay off with insurance p
Darla_K
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 6:19pmAnd armed security. :)
Report Post »wildbill_b
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 10:11pmAnyone who wants to “conceal” should not have a weapon. States can regulate “concealed carry”. The reason being to prevent recently freed slaves from carrying hidden weapons. Simple matter of History, which is no longer taught. They utterly lack the ability to regulate open carry in any of the 50 states. The Constitution is clear on this matter. NO LAW SHALL BE MADE REGARDING OPEN CARRY. I often wonder why it is so hard for people to understand plain English. I suppose it is their fear being used in propaganda against them in the style of Edward Bernay’s.
Report Post »AMERICA4EVER
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 4:21pmWe all know who is the problem. I could repeat this on half of the stories on The Blaze.
Report Post »ShamanWorld
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 4:31pmGet over yourself. Haven’t you noticed the WHITE people butchering kids and killing their families daily?
Report Post »AMERICA4EVER
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 4:49pmSHAMANWORLDT
Report Post »This crap is happening every minute of the day. Sorry if the truth hurts.
AMERICA4EVER
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 5:01pmI will refer you to this link: http://www.radford.edu/~junnever/bw.ht
Report Post »RightThinking1
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 6:07pmOh. You mean like this guy?
Report Post »http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2011312080079
ShamanWorld
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 6:49pmWhat about earlier in 2011 in Long Island, NY a WHITE man looking to rob the pharmacy PAINKILLERS, killed 3 innocent people(including clerk) even though they didn’t even resist. He killed them even though he got the drugs. A 19 year old female pharmacist, 70 year old man and 40 year old woman shot dead just for being at the Pharmacy. Remember that? More whites are killing for PAINKILLERS and overdosing on them than any other group that is a fact. Crime is not exclusive to blacks,and chances are this suspect in Long Island isn’t black. Legal drugs are becoming more of a problem than illegal non man made drugs.
Report Post »Ultracurmudgeon
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 4:05pmI salute these heroic public servants! When a community does not allow concealed carry the assumption is that only bad guys have guns. If law abiding persons are armed then the bad guys will be less likely to commit such deeds. I support concealed carry laws nationwide! Definition of gun control… “Hit your target” & exercise your 2nd ammendment RIGHTS!
Report Post »Krazy_Kreepy_Ketchup
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 4:02pmMy heart goes out to the family of the agent.
No need to minimize his death with the politics of the second amendment or the fact that an ATF agent was shot in a state with gun laws that are so strict, it is worse than Europe.
R.I.P. man
Report Post »macpappy
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 3:56pmSo, not sure who shot the Fed? Does this sound fishy to anyone besides me? A sad deal no matter what the facts are, but i sure am interested in the facts on this one. 3 off duty cops arrive before anyone else and are part of a complicated shooting. I’ll bet the perp is dead, twice.
Report Post »Krazy_Kreepy_Ketchup
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 4:03pmNo doubt the perp is at the bottom of Oyster Bay.
Report Post »KEA
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 4:12pmMy thought exactly. Off duty cop and retired cop show up at the same time??????????????
I wonder if they knew this perp was going to do this job?
How ironic in one of the strictest gun states in the country the crooks are still killing people and we the people are not allowed to defend ourselves.
Report Post »stillapatriot
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 4:17pmCan anyone say “DEPARTED”
stillapatriot
Report Post »Think With Me
neverending
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 4:28pmLike I said before these stories are becoming all too common and they all stink to high heaven – cannot help but believe these are all ties to the most corrupt attorney general holder – God help us all!
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 3:53pmGet ready everyone, because as our economy crashes down in it’s Obama inspired death spiral, crime is going to do nothing but go way way up. If you don’t own a gun and know how to use it, then I suggest you obtain one, because as the old saying goes “when seconds count, the police are only minutes away”….
Report Post »neverending
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 4:29pmAmen and amen to that.
Report Post »BOMUSTGO
Posted on January 1, 2012 at 5:06pmA gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone!
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