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Cops: Priest Hires Hit Man to Murder Boy Alleging Sexual Abuse

San Antonio (AP) — A Roman Catholic priest has been arrested on charges that he solicited a hit man to kill a teenager who had accused him of sexual abuse.

Authorities said John Fiala first offered the job to a neighbor, who blew the whistle and helped police arrange a sting. They said Fiala got as far as negotiating a $5,000 price for the slaying before investigators moved in.

The 52-year-old priest was arrested Thursday at his suburban Dallas home and jailed on $700,000 bond. In April, he was named in a lawsuit filed by the boy’s family, who accused Fiala of molesting the youth, including twice forcing him to have sex at gunpoint.

The abuse allegedly took place in 2007 and 2008, when Fiala was a priest at the Sacred Heart of Mary Parish in the west Texas community of Rocksprings.

The family’s lawsuit also named the Archdiocese of San Antonio and Archbishop Jose Gomez, alleging that church leadership should have known Fiala was abusive.

The suit was filed a month before Gomez was introduced as the new incoming leader of the Los Angeles Archdiocese. He is serving as an assistant to Cardinal Roger Mahony, who will retire next year. Gomez then automatically becomes archbishop.

When he learned of the murder-for-hire investigation, the boy “was terrified, and rightly so,” said Tom Rhodes, the boy’s lawyer. As far back as 2008, Fiala threatened the teen and repeatedly brandished a pistol, Rhodes said.

Fiala “began saying, ‘If you tell anyone, I’ll hurt you, I’ll hurt your family, your girlfriend,’ ” Rhodes said. “It was more than once he threatened him with a gun.”

Fiala only recently rented a place to live more than 300 miles northeast of Rocksprings, in suburban Garland, where police say he initiated the attempted contract killing.

Cops: Priest Hires Hit Man to Murder Boy Alleging Sexual Abuse

John Fiala

Rhodes said an anonymous informant who initially identified himself as a neighbor of Fiala contacted his office and said the priest had approached him about killing the accuser, who was 16 at the time and is now in his late teens. Rhodes urged the informant to contact the police, who then sent an undercover agent to meet with Fiala.

Rhodes said he had been told Fiala offered $5,000 to carry out the killing. A spokesman for the Texas Department of Public Safety said he could not confirm the amount of money that was allegedly involved.

Fiala is charged with one count of solicitation to commit capital murder and two counts of aggravated sexual assault of a child. Jail records list his attorney as Rex Gunter in Dallas, but he was in court Tuesday and did not return a call from the Associated Press.

San Antonio Archdiocese spokesman Pat Rodgers said Fiala had been removed from the public ministry, meaning he could not present himself as a priest.

Authorities removed him in October 2008, before the accusations of sexual assault emerged, because of his interference with the custodial relationship between the teen in Rocksprings and his grandmother — a case the sheriff’s office investigated. Authorities have not disclosed the nature of Fiala’s interference.

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  • mcccmar
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 1:38pm

    I am catholic, born , bred, and will be til Im dead – but our church has been very lax and far too slow in dealing with this problem – if a priests abuses you forget the cardinal – CALL THE COPS- and the priest should be on his own – no financial support from the dioces, no bail, no attorney – once these priests realized they werent protected alot of this crap would stop

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  • moonpeace
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 1:26pm

    If he is guilty, and it doesn’t look good for finding him innocent, this pervert had to be considering suicide. How could anyone go on after having done such a deed to another human being? I am an assisted suicide physician and would gladly help this man out of his pain.

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  • jcons114
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 1:08pm

    As a Catholic I’m apalled that this Priest acted this way…he is certainly a crook and a disgrace to the collar. But again I see people calling for an end to celibacy, callling Catholic beliefs crazy. If a man has true pedophilia….marriage won’t help. Be thankful people that the Church’s process for screening seminarians is stricter now than it was when this loser was ordained.

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  • Mick
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 1:08pm

    *prays*

    He will meet his judgment before the God he claims to searve.

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  • stefooch
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 1:01pm

    I work for the Catholic Church and this makes me SICK! Meanwhile as employees and volunteers we undergo background checks and fingerprinting, follow a host of rules and regulations in the name of “Protecting Gods Children” I am proud to say we had an issue with an associate in the past, and our Pastor took prompt immediate action. Its the Bishops and Archbishops who often drop the ball and sweep things under the rug – so I’m glad to see the Archbishop named in this lawsuit. Even though they removed him prior to the lawsuit…I GUARANTEE they knew what was going on and used that excuse to remove him rather than expose (no pun intended) him.
    As for why Priest can’t marry – its an issue of Cannon Law, not Divine Law so many exceptions are made. We currently have a married Priest in our Diocese.
    http://www.disciplesnow.com/articles/10298

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  • barthom
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:55pm

    I am responding to the person who said, “Why is this not a surprised?” I am not Catholic (and I don’t think people should be Catholics), but I would be a good jury member. One must not suspect all Catholic priests of being wicked, anymore than you would like being accused if a guilty person sits next to you in church. The incidence of pastors and priests who are criminals is way less than the incidence in the general population. I would say we should be suprised when a priest is bad. There is a principle that newspapers conveniently forget in their race to entertain us, “The exception proves the rule.” You should trust a Catholic priest as most likely being a good guy, (but keep your eyes open) and let him do his job, and let him lead you to righteousness. Everyone else you meet has a higher probability of being bad.

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  • nostromo
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:35pm

    OK, I’ll pour some gas on this fire. Penn State professor Philip Jenkins wrote in his 2001 book, Pedophiles and Priests, that the number of pedophiles in the Catholic priesthood ranged from .2 to 1.7% while among Protestant ministers the numbers ranged from 2 to 3%. In a Hofstra study done in 1994 it was determined that 5% of public school teachers have sexually abused children. Look, there is no possible excuse for any of this and I am not an apologist for priests, but the problem is not celibacy, Catholicism, or any doctrinal issue. The Jehovahs Witnesses have an organization called Silent Lambs for kids abused by church figures with a membership over 5,000. This phenomenah spreads across all professions and affects all religions.

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    • Agentuntomyself
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 9:57pm

      Technically, I think a pedophile is defined as someone who preys on pre-pubescent children. If a sexual crime is committed on a child who has undergone puberty, then the perpetrator is considered a sexual predator, not a pedophile. Someone correct me if I’m wrong. So I have to wonder about those numbers – do they include priests who have abused teenaged(post-pubescent) boys, or just those under the ages of about 13?

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  • leftiesaredangerous
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:16pm

    One more thing…I wrote a blog on why Catholics drive me crazy. You may enjoy it:

    http://www.myspace.com/blog/194028640/529816663

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    • WANNABCHRISTIAN
      Posted on November 25, 2010 at 4:51pm

      I don‘t pull up websights from people I don’t know. Could you please be more specific about Catholic doctrines that are issues?

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    • WANNABCHRISTIAN
      Posted on November 25, 2010 at 5:26pm

      To leftiesaredangerous: BTW Catholicism IS Biblical truth. Where do you think the Bible came from?

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  • cykonas
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:14pm

    To say that a Priest is forced to be celebate would presume that one is forced to be a Priest. From all of the Priests that I know, and have known, there isn’t a single one who ever told me they were forced in any way. I respect the right of John 7- 18 and others who don’t care about Catholic beliefs and traditions to hold such opinions. But, at least make a cursory attempt to get the underlying facts correct, and then state them accurately.

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    • john seven eighteen
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 2:40pm

      @Cykonas

      ??? Seriously, you don’t think priests are forced to be celibate? Maybe I am not understanding your comment but of course they are forced to be celibate, it is a requirement to become a priest.

      “Clerical celibacy is the discipline by which some or all members of the clergy in certain religions are required to be unmarried. Since these religions consider sinful deliberate sexual thoughts, feelings, and behavior outside of marriage, clerical celibacy also requires abstension from these.[1] In the Latin Catholic Church, clerical celibacy is mandated for bishops and, as a general rule, for priests and for deacons who intend to become priests. In Eastern Christianity, celibacy is mandatory for all bishops and for any priest who has been ordained while unmarried or who has lost his wife.”

      Note the use of the words mandate, and mandatory!!! Again, if I am misunderstanding the intent of your post please correct me.

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  • heferwiz57
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:13pm

    I had a friend, now deceased, whose lifelong dream was to be a priest. He went into catholic seminary right out of high school. Shortly after arriving there he ran away in the middle of the night due to the rampant rape and sexual abuse inflicted upon the newbies. The priests would go from room to room and his time was soon to come.
    It took him some time to make it back home as he was out of state. When he told his parents what had happened they made him swear secrecy so as not to bring disrepute upon their beloved church.
    I met him in Bible College 30 yrs ago and even though God did great and marvelous thing for the man those early events affected him until the day he died.

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  • Traveller Lee
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:08pm

    If the Catholic church changed it’s position on allowing priests to marry (women that is), they would get more normal men applying for the priesthood which would dramatically decrease the number of molestations.

    For the first 1200 years of the Catholic church’s existence, priests, bishops and 39 popes were married.
    They changed this because the church found out it could get more property and $, if the priests didn’t have families to inherit their estates.

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    • pennswoods
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 3:41pm

      Correct. When is Rome going to wake up and give us a married priesthood once again? Byzantine Rite Catholics (Eastern Catholics in union with Rome) are allowed a married priesthood. However, like the Eastern Orthodox, their bishops must be unmarried. Most Orthodox and Eastern Rite Catholic bishops are chosen from abbots or monks in monasteries. Here where I live in Western Pennsylvania, we have a Latin Rite Catholic Church on one street and a block away at a Byzantine Eastern Rite Catholic Church has married priests servng their parish and they do an excellent job and seem to have no problems with sex scandals. In England and in the Scandinavian countries married Protestant clergy who have converted to the Roman Catholic Church have been allowed to be reordained as Roman Catholic priests and stay married.

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    • WANNABCHRISTIAN
      Posted on November 26, 2010 at 1:15pm

      Married men CAN become priests, unmarried priests cannot. There are many married priests in the Catholic church. It‘s just that you don’t hear much about them. Most of them were already ministers of a different faith but converted to Catholicism. Upon their conversion, they were granted the right to become priests. But as St. Paul says, if you are going to do the work of Jesus, being unmarried is better because you can give 100% to the work of Jesus. Paraphrasing) Being married is not going to stop this awful plague that infests this earth. Only the Holy Spirit can. And since Satan and his cohorts are alive and walking this planet to corrupt as many people as he can, “for his time is short”, the Holy Spirit has His work cut out for him. Remember, not all of us will enter into the kingdom. There will be goats and there will be lambs and Jesus will judge all of us in time.

      As far as women priests, that is something the Church cannot change. It is not a Church law. The only thing the Church can change is Church law. ie not eating meat on Fridays. Jesus had 12 apostles. They were all men. Jesus was a man. Since the priests are acting in “persona Christi”, women cannot be priests. So to al women out there who cannot accept this, I will pray for you. Jesus gave His apostles the power to act and do the things Jesus did in His name. The apostles in turn passed that power on to other men and they to others, etc. That is why the Church is called One, Holy & “Apostolic.” Besides, (just a thought) women are getting just as bad in molesting children. No, my friend. We all have got to give our lives to Jesus and turn this amoral country, not to mention the whole world, around and live His commandments. If all of us obeyed the 1st commandment to perfection, there would be no need for the other nine.

      I hope I was of some help. I know this article is old news by now and this probably won’t be seen but I had to get it off my chest anyway. To my brother/sister in Christ I say you, God bless you and good luck in your spiritual journey.

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  • debfromohio
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:00pm

    This started with the ordination of homosexual priests – the obvious fact that no one will speak about – not sure of the statistics but I believe more than 95% of these incidents are homosexual. Marriage will not stop it. Where is the media on that point? Crickets chirping. But awards are given to Roman Polanski – hypocrisy anyone? Of course the girl in that case was thirteen after all. The church did strip this priest of his collar prior to the incident and should have done that all along – no question the bishops who swept other abuses under the rug should also be stripped of their collars – I have my own sins to answer for but I’d not want to be in their shoes on judgement day.

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  • dkhartman
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:59am

    lock him up and throw away the key. this is disgusting. may God help this boy through the tragedy that came upon him and help him find peace and comfort through everything.

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  • ArmyWifeNiz
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:41am

    The blame on this does not fall on the Catholic Church’s requirement for celebacy. This man is obviously a criminal, and it is sad that he is a Priest too. Our Catholic Priests aren’t allowed to marry because they must give their all to their flock. It is for them to walk like Christ walked, and Catholics do believe that Jesus was unmarried. I don’t expect non practicing Catholics and Non Catholics to understand the teaching behind this practice, but it does have a beautiful teaching behind it. We cannot judge all of our Priests based on the actions of a few, especially this nutjob.

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    • TakeBackAmerica
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:05pm

      Where does it says that in the BIBLE?

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    • TakeBackAmerica
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:09pm

      There is nothing special about a ‘priest’, he is no different that any other man. Goes for the pope as well. All of this is unbiblical. We are ALL preists, and therefore, since marriage is encouraged in scripture, marriage is good for ANY man of God, period. This practice was invented by corrupt church leaders who couldn’t control thier sexual desires.

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    • ArmyWifeNiz
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:39pm

      Actually, the Catholic Church is Tradition AND Faith teachings. In the Catholic Faith, only a Priest can preform the rite of Transubstansiation (spelling is wrong) which turns the bread into the Host. So yes, Priests ARE special in the Catholic Faith.

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    • ArmyWifeNiz
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:41pm

      Like I said, Takebackamerica, I don‘t expect non Catholics that haven’t gone through RCIA to understand this.

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    • TakeBackAmerica
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:59pm

      And again, that is all huey, made up by the corrupt leaders and the sheep then drink the kool-aid. Transubstantiation is a hoax. Perpetuated in order to give the ‘priests’ special power and authority where they have none (I know, the misinterpretation of the ‘keys to the kingdom’ scripture!) And FYI, I went through the RCC through communion. Just read up and studied enough bible, commentaries, writings,etc. to see through the RCC smokescreen. I pray you do the same.

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    • john seven eighteen
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 2:27pm

      @Armywife

      If it‘s not the Catholic church’s celibacy requirement at fault, then why is child molestation not a problem in other denominations? I, too, went through all the Catholic schooling, CCD, private Catholic school, etc. so I feel I am very qualified to comment on this. Priests are human, humans were given desires by God (who gave us everything) and it is unnatural to require anyone to repress these urges for an entire lifetime. Some can do it, many cannot. Please read my posts above. You don‘t have to agree but you can’t continue hiding behind Catholic doctrine when this molestation problem is only prevalent in the Catholic faith.

      BTW, I understand the whole celibacy thing, and being married to the church, I just don’t agree with it. And I still haven‘t had anyone give me a good reason why women couldn’t be just as effective priests as men. It‘s good ’ol boy tradition mentality and it is sadly out of date. If we truly are equal, then women should be just as effective at spreading the word of God as men.

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    • ArmyWifeNiz
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 2:45pm

      I have Faith in my Faith. You are free to believe how you choose. I love my Catholic faith, have Faith in it’s teachings. Your badmouthing it isn’t going to change my opinion or the millions of Catholics out there.

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    • john seven eighteen
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 3:07pm

      @Armywife

      Please don’t mis-understand my post. I, in no way, meant what I wrote to you to sound disrespectful or as badmouthing. I just didn’t understand your reasoning and thought you might expound on it, but it sounds like you will stick to your beliefs no matter what I or anyone else say so I’ll leave it at that. I certainly respect your faith, like I said I was raised Catholic as well, but I have come to realize (in my opinion, of course) that many of the Catholic beliefs are dated or just out of touch today.

      Again, I apologize if came across harshly.

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    • caitlynsdad
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 3:24pm

      @ArmyWife
      As a convert to Catholicism, I know how right you are, in that there were many topics I realized how badly Protestants are misinformed on only as I went through RCIA–priestly celibacy being one, which is actually a matter of discipline rather than doctrine but has its basis in St. Paul’s words that a man who is married thinks primarily about how to please his wife and a man who is not married primarily about how to please the Lord (1 Corinthians 7:32-33).

      @ John 7:18
      You are incorrect that child molestation is not a problem in other denominations, where clergy are permitted to marry. For documentation on this see http://www.fisheaters.com/clergysexabuse.html. It’s just that when priests misbehave in this way, it gets media attention which lends the false impression (1) that it’s an exclusively Catholic problem; (2) that it’s more frequent than it really is. This is not a question of celibacy, but a question of sin.

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    • TakeBackAmerica
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 4:12pm

      ArmyWifeNiz:
      Your badmouthing it isn’t going to change my opinion or the millions of Catholics out there.

      You are correct. But GOD can!

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    • john seven eighteen
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 4:13pm

      @CaitlynsDad

      Bad wording on my part. I shouldn’t have implied that this problem was only on the Catholic church, but that it is magnified in the catholic church by the media. Also, I agree that it is a question of sin, of course, but that does not preclude it from being a problem of celibacy at all. And I should make it clear that I am not saying that all of the molestations are a result of celibacy. I am stating that a large part, if not a majority of, these molestations would cease if the church would embrace marriage for priests, NOT that marriage itself will stop someone from molesting a child, but because by accepting marriage into the Catholic doctrine it would no longer provide a place for these priests to hide. The church would have no reason to continue to protect them.

      I also have a real problem with those who say it is a gay problem, because that would imply that all gay people want to molest children. Of course that is not the truth. Pedophilia is a condition (for lack of a better term) in and of itself altogether separate from homosexuality and heterosexuality. If a person is likely to commit such a crime against a child they will do it whether or not they or gay or straight, married or unmarried. Priests are no different, but to say all pedophilic priests are gay is denying the true problem. I refer again to long-term prisoners. After so long even many heterosexual prisoners turn to “weaker” prisoners to find their satisfaction. It doesn’t make them gay, it makes them opportunists, albeit it in a very negative way.

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    • TakeBackAmerica
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 4:35pm

      I just don‘t see under whose authority the RCC can prohibit ’priests’ from getting married. Again, it is not biblical. Jesus, nor Paul, nor anything in the Old testament that I’m aware of prohibited marriage. So, a bunch of human, error prone guys decide to prohibit it, and that’s that?

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    • caitlynsdad
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 5:00pm

      @TBA
      Same authority of any other church to determine the rules that govern its clergy. As for the biblical basis, you could try 1 Corinthians 7:32-33 or Matt. 19:12. I know these have disputed interpretations, but the Catholic Church didn’t pull priestly celibacy out of thin air. I think I‘ve said elsewhere that it’s always been a matter of discipline rather than doctrine, and so in theory it could be changed–except that the Catholic Church has always believed there are good reasons for the discipline.

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    • WANNABCHRISTIAN
      Posted on November 25, 2010 at 4:43pm

      To takebackamerica: What you don’t know about the Catholic faith and the Bible is huge. Go back to school.

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  • BurntHills
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:41am

    one look at the preist and you know he’s a democrat.

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  • Mikee T
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:31am

    That’s just what we need…….another priest lending more credibility to left wing wackos that christians / catholics are evil……… This is one of the reasons I broke away from the Catholic church…unfortunately….

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    • WANNABCHRISTIAN
      Posted on November 26, 2010 at 12:18pm

      To Mikee T: Please read my post to Disabledvit above. I pray it will give you something to think about. God bless you.

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  • dkhartman
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:31am

    yeah, you know how the Bible says to smite the people who do anything against you…

    So he’s just following what his religion………….

    OH WAIT, thats right, nope..

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  • Disabledvet
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:31am

    The likes of these priest is the reason I left the Catholic Church. I worship at a new church.

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    • WANNABCHRISTIAN
      Posted on November 26, 2010 at 12:03pm

      To Disabledvet: I suspect that was not the only reason you left Jesus’ church. But, I may be wrong. Wouldn’t be the first time, as in all of us. I just want to remind you that even Jesus had a traitor in his closest circle. Jesus’ church is HOLY, not the people in it. Yes, even priests are people and are subject to sin just like the rest of us. But if there was a traitor in Jesus’ midst, there will be a traitor in his church. The way I see it, you don’t leave Peter because of Judas. I also suspect that you do not truly know the Catholic faith or you would never have left. Where else are you going to find the true presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist. Obviously, you do not believe that or you would never have left. I will pray for your return home. We are all “Prodical Sons” and our home is with Jesus in heaven. May Jesus bring us all home someday. God bless you.

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  • john seven eighteen
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:30am

    I don‘t give a rat’s fat @$$ about Catholic tradition and belief; this would all stop if priests were allowed to marry. After all, wasn’t it God who gave man sexual desire along with every other emotion and sense? So how can they expect men to live their entire lives repressing the urges? I know many do it successfully but many cannot. It’s just not right. It makes no sense to think that a married man cannot be as effective a priest as an unmarried man (or woman for that matter).

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    • dkhartman
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:34am

      You are entirely right. My pastor and his wife are both amazing leaders.

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    • dontbotherme
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:36am

      Child molesters do not stop molesting children if they are married. Your argument is moot.

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    • APatriotFirst
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:39am

      Being married would not solve anything. Check the % of BOYS that are priest molested against the % of girls. These priests are pedophiles. Marriage and being allowed to have sex WILL NOT STOP THEM!

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    • dkhartman
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:49am

      Oh yeah you know a man who is married and/or aloud to have sex is JUST as likely to molest a child as a man who isn’t married and is NOT aloud to ever have sex. That makes sense.
      I‘m pretty sure it’s been proven that young boys are less likely to report a rape than girls. That actually makes more sense than assuming that many priests just HAPPEN to be pedophiles.

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    • Hoosier Daddy
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:50am

      There is no inherent right to become a priest. If you cannot live up to the standards, find another vocation. One’s inability to sacrifice is no reason to dilute the commitment of others who can. This is not a condemnation of Protestant pastors who marry, but please don’t suggest that the way to “improve” the Catholic Church is to make it more Protestant. Also, marriage doesn’t cure pedophilia. So far it appears that nothing does. Find them, lock them up and forget they ever existed.

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    • dkhartman
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:56am

      Unless they aren‘t Christians and just became a priest so they’d be a less likely suspect for rape/pediphilia

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    • TakeBackAmerica
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:59am

      the way to improve the catholic church is to make it more CHRISTIAN and preach the true gospel, not the one the corrupt leaders made up.

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    • john seven eighteen
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:13pm

      For all of you who like to chastise because it makes you feel superior: Priests are no different than laymen in the sense that they will develop feelings of affection or even lust for those who they spend the most time around. Priests spend much, much more time with young men and boys because of all-boy Catholic schools (like I went to, BTW) which are taught primarily by priests and brothers, as apposed to all girl Catholic schools being taught more by nuns and laywomen. Also, most alter boys are male (hence the moniker) and there are many activities in which priests are around boys much more than girls. There are also reports of priests molesting girls but the fact is that there are not as many opportunities for them to molest girls.

      As far as making the Catholic faith more Protestant, you are extremely narrow-minded if you truly believe allowing priests to marry would magically make them start preaching more of a protestant sermon.

      And yes, if a man is a pedophile it will not matter if he is a married priest, unmarried priest or layman, he will still molest children. I just didn’t think I had to explain that concept here on the Blaze, but I will try to be more mindful of the limits of some of the readers here.

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:20pm

      Most of the molestations are man on BOY, that makes these rogue priests gay, gay marraige is not allowed. Your point would only be valid if the crimes were committed against females. these animals are gay pedophiles who use the church to get into a position of trust with these kids and thier families so they can have access to thier victims.

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    • PatriotMomof5
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 1:30pm

      A pediophile is just that, a pediophile. Marriage makes NO difference. And yes, the media paints the Catholic Church and it’s priests horribly. A few disgusting human beings do not represent the religion. The teachings of Catholicism is deep an spiritual. Lefties are afraid of us Catholics, they can’t control us. Our belief in God is too strong.

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    • john seven eighteen
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 2:14pm

      Okay, let me go at this from a different angle. I said that if priests were allowed to marry this problem would stop. Many of you claim that it has nothing to do with marriage because these priests are pedophiles and are probably joining the church solely to practice their craft, so to speak, because they could hide behind the Catholic “shield”. But if priests were allowed to marry that shield would be, for all intents and purposes, gone, and they wouldn’t be able to hide out under Catholicism any more. Also, you can’t possibly think that all of these priests are gay just because they molested a child. Many times it is merely a crime of opportunity. They can take advantage of young children, even teenagers in some cases, because of their position of being priests and having the youngsters’ trust, where they would never be able to pull it off with adults. I already stated the huge difference in how often they are around young boys compared to how often they are around young girls; the opportunity is there and they take advantage of it.

      Do you honestly think all prisoners who “take advantage of” other weaker prisoners are gay? Of course not, many are married and have never had a homosexual thought before being imprisoned, yet after being locked away for so long the only ones available to them to satisfy their urges are other male inmates. This is documented and proven many times over. The priests are doing exactly the same thing.

      Would allowing priests to marry render this vile practice of molestation extinct? Of course not, people are people but reports of this type would become the exception rather than the rule. That was my whole point.

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  • felina g
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:21am

    That`s going to leave a mark.

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  • untameable-kate
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:20am

    This is disgusting. The priest is clearly not only a filthy child predator but insane as well. Who the heck in thier right mind goes and asks the neighbor to kill someone they have raped? What an animal.

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  • dontbotherme
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:20am

    Take this ex-priest, lock him up & throw away the keys. He is a criminal who will never be rehabilitated.

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    • BurntHills
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:48am

      he’s a pedophile/gay who crept into the Catholic church specifically for the opportunities it presents. the Church can’t know who the deviates are until they strike.

      SAME goes for it’s NUNS and lay teachers. how many of US have survived 1950s-1960s parochial school terrorism by the elderly deviate nuns and women lay teachers.
      as our elderly father once said about one of us brought home from school who was severly beaten by a teacher, ”THAT is why they call her a LAY teacher.”… she would not have been allowed to continue that “corporal punishment” in public schools.

      one thing about 1950s-1960s parochial school kids, WE are family-oriented and can read and write PROPERLY and we know every single patriotic song AND our real American History… the old East European nuns were adamant you knew WHY America and OUR AMERICAN MILITARY was so GREAT.

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  • DimmuBorgir
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:18am

    ok all the anti-christians. here’s another opportunity to paint all christians as evil.

    you know the way you say we do to all muslims.

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    • APatriotFirst
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:31am

      Dimmu, is people like you that makes me leave this site. Not all priests are crap. But those that are, nevr get put down by the good guys, now do they? Instead, it all gets hidden away. A good honest god loving priest would be leading against this guy and those like him.
      Not all priests are bad, Nor are all muslims terrorists. And I don’t need to be a cristian to know that.

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    • RobertCA
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:41am

      I’m a Christian & I wanna see this pervert in jail .

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    • BurntHills
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:50am

      we are Catholics and we want to see this pedophile/gay guy ROT in jail. we don’t care what kind of deviate he is, he should be branded with “SHORTEYES” in prison.

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 1:11pm

      You guys ever notice that a pedophile rapists’ job or religion is never mentioned by the media unless the crime was committed by a priest? This is the left trying to imply an epidemic where there is none. There are thousands of priests who worship quietly and guide thier flocks with honor but the media wants it to seem like all priests are like this.

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    • DimmuBorgir
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 1:49pm

      @APATRIOTFIRST

      people like me? I wasn’t aware that you knew me personally. so go screw yourself buddy,

      @KATE

      you got my point. Obviously this guy broke the law and should get his due punishment. I was pointing out the fact that non-christians and especially athiests always use the “see how evil christians are” whenever something like this happens.

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  • sjohn70037
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:17am

    Shame on the Catholic Church for not putting these creeps in jail. They‘ll just send him off to another parish like they’ve done for decades. Shame!

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    • HippoNips
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:31am

      The Catholic Church can NOT put anyone in jail.
      He was out on bond and the friggin church doesn’t set bond either

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    • untameable-kate
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:32am

      I bet they don’t, this pig is going to jail. The church is far more likely to excommunicate these priests now that it is getting a reputation for having these animals in thier ranks.

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    • HippoNips
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:42am

      Read the article. to the end. He was stripped of the cloth for interfering in the custodial case of the teen BEFORE the teen alledged any sexual abuse.
      NO church in the US can arrest anyone, or put them in jail or keep them there. They have no authority whatsoever.
      It they tried , you’d be here screaming theocracy.

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  • Bad Thunder
    Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:17am

    Why is this not a surprise?

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    • leftiesaredangerous
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:36am

      The Catholic Church has been far to slow and far too sloppy in righting these terrible wrongs. All this even after they covered it up for decades.

      The Catholic Church also has some major doctrinal issues that if not set right, you can expect more wrongs.

      As for this guy, he needs to go away for life and the Cardinal needs to be charged as an accessary to the crime(s).

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    • TakeBackAmerica
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 11:56am

      Lefties: I had a major debate on the blaze with an apologist on Catholic doctrine, we got nowhere, they use distorted reasoning and out of context logic to support their views, but I agree with all your points. He never addressed the priest abuse issue as well. When they finally admit that the Church has moved away from the true gospel they will stop the bleeding, not until then.

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    • leftiesaredangerous
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:09pm

      TakebackAmerica,

      I agree totally. I have listened to some of the best Catholic apologists defend many of their traditions and bad doctrine. Their arguments are weak and a huge stretch if not down right embarrassing.

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    • TakeBackAmerica
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:26pm

      Here is a link to our debate. Enjoy! :)

      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/fight-for-orthodoxy-catholic-bloggers-monitor-marxist-influence/comment-page-1/#comments

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    • leftiesaredangerous
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:27pm

      One more thing…I wrote a blog on why Catholics drive me crazy. You may enjoy it:

      http://www.myspace.com/blog/194028640/529816663

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    • sub veteran
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 12:34pm

      Why are people on this blog acting in an unchristian manner toward Catholics. This is the kind of hatred anger and fighting Glenn warned us about. The man was defrocked and no longer a priest.. He is a pedophile and marriage doesn’t make a difference. He need to be locked up and throw away the key. He will find his real hell as a know pedophile in prison.

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    • leftiesaredangerous
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 1:04pm

      Subveteren.

      First offf, while I like Glenn Beck, he’s not my God, my leader or my mentor.

      I would be more concerned with your comments than mine. You have just lined up with the liberals to call anyone who disagrees with you (or the Catholics in this case) being hateful and whatever.

      I grew up Catholic, my parents are Catholic, most my bothers and sisters claim to be Catholic. I love them…and I disagree with them vehemently – I have a biblical world view, they a Catholic/cultural world view.

      So please, stop with the false accusations and get a clue on Catholicism vs biblical truth.

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    • caitlynsdad
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 2:18pm

      @TBA
      So good to see you back! You’ll admit, I hope, that this story has nothing to do with Catholic doctrine, but about the behavior of a particular priest? (For the record, assuming the accuracy of the story, the priest should be defrocked and excommunicated, and at a minimum imprisoned for life.) You’ll also admit, I hope, that the prior story in which we debated had nothing to do with the priestly abuse question, but about Marxist influence within the Catholic Church–and our debate centered around such issues as the Church’s teachings about Mary. You’ll also admit, I hope, that clergy misbehavior is to be found in all churches, not just the Roman Catholic Church–so that it has nothing to do with preistly celibacy but instead with sin (sorry, I can’t remember whether it was you who brought up that point or someone else)?

      If you can admit these points, then I will admit that the Catholic Church has been far too slow in addressing the misbehavior of priests on a wide variety of subjects–not just the sexual abuse question. But that has to do with human sin, not with the truth or falsehood of Catholic teachings.

      @SubVeteran
      You are absolutely right. Everytime I see a story here on The Blaze about the Pope, or a priest, or something regarding Catholicism, I take a quick glance at the comments because invariably there will be people using it as a springboard to attack Catholicism in general, rather than talk about the particular subject in question.

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    • jzs
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 2:34pm

      Which are worse, Catholics or Muslims? I can’t decide. And what about those other religions, what with their worshiping of a false God. If the 25% of the world that is Christian killed the other 75%, we would finally have Heaven on Earth.

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    • caitlynsdad
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 2:45pm

      @JZS
      Thank you for reminding me why there are words like “buffoon” in the dictionary.

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    • TakeBackAmerica
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 4:07pm

      Hey Caitlynsdad: LOL, to your response this post and your response to JZS! Yes, you are correct sir! What I was refering to was that I did mention the abuse in one of my posts on that thread and you did not address it, that was all. Hope you are well and have a blessed Thanksgiving!

      ArmyWifeNiz
      Your badmouthing it isn’t going to change my opinion or the millions of Catholics out there.
      You are correct. But GOD can!

      Lefties: Your story sounds alot like mine, except I grew up as an adoptee whose parents were nominal Catholics, then in my 30′s with both parents dead, found my biological family, who also are nominal Catholics (expect my mother, who is a ‘devout’ Catholic, whatever that means!) My biological brother is 10 years younger than me and we are close, he lives about 30 miles from me and we keep in touch. We have been debating this for over 10 years now, and he is beginning to see the light!

      There is hope, just keep ‘speaking the truth in love’. I need to be constantly reminded of that!

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    • caitlynsdad
      Posted on November 24, 2010 at 4:49pm

      @TBA
      LOL, I think I remember you mentioning the priestly abuse on the other thread and that I didn‘t address it because I didn’t want to open up another can of worms when we were already going at it over infant baptism and Mary.

      “Devout Catholic” means a Catholic who accepts all the teachings of the Church, regularly attends Mass, goes to confession, is involved in his or her parish, etc. Someone whose Catholicism is at the center of their life. They are to be distinguished from what I, in my more mischievous moments, refer to as CINOs or “pretend Catholics.”

      Hope you have a safe and blessed Thanksgiving too.

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