Could TX Hunting Actually Help Save These Endangered Species?
- Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:04pm by
Liz Klimas
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The scimitar horned oryx is extinct in the wild.
According to a recent 60 Minutes report, Texas has more exotic wildlife than any place on Earth. More than 125 exotic species can be found, many of which are endangered in their native habitats. But on these animal resorts, populations seem to be thriving.
Why? They’re being hunted. While this may seem counter intuitive, hunting these animals costs a pretty penny, and much of the proceeds go to ensuring a strong population of these endangered animals for the future. Lara Logan with “60 Minutes” reports that it would cost $4,500 to kill a scimitar horned oryx — an animal considered extinct in its native habitat — $10,000 for a dama gazelle and $50,000 for a cape buffalo. In addition to bringing in revenue, Logan reports that the business employs about 14,000 people in Texas.
But, as you might expect, animal rights activists aren’t happy about this method of maintaining the population. In fact, Priscilla Feral, president of Friends of Animals, implies on the show that she would rather see the animals go extinct than live on such resorts.
Watch the clip:
It appears as if Feral will get her way to an extent. 60 Minutes reports that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service will soon begin enforcing a rule that requires a strict federal permit to hunt some of these animals on ranches, which was not required before. For Charlie Seale, who represents 5,000 exotic animal ranches as the executive director of the Exotic Wildlife Association, this means less business, less money and therefore less to contribute to maintaining a strong population of the scimitar horned oryx and two other endangered antelope to which the rule applies:
“I will say that in five years you’ll see half the numbers that you see today. And I would venture to guess in 10 years they‘ll be virtually none of ’em left,” [Seale said.]
Here is a clip sharing the pro-hunting perspective:
Seale and the hunters consider themselves conservationists. Seale says that without the money, they would not be able to support the growth of the herd population:
[...] you sacrifice one so that many more are born and raised from calves all the way up to the big trophy male or the big trophy females that we have.
Photo by Mike Kramer
On the flip side, animal activists don’t see this as an acceptable form of animal conservation. They believe that the hunts are made too easy and that the animals belong in preserves in their natural habitat. Feral said:
I don’t want to see them on hunting ranches. I don’t want to see them dismembered. I don’t want to see their value in body parts. I think it’s obscene. I don’t think you create a life to shoot it.
Here‘s more from Feral’s perspective:
When asked if she would rather the animals “not exist at all”, Feral said “not in Texas, no.”
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mattintexas
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:14pmIs it just me or does that lady look high as a kite. Maybe the feds should be looking into that instead.
Report Post »TyrannyNoMore
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:21pmWell, she kinda looked like she had been kicked in the face by a mule, but I digress.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:33pmLook, you have to eat what the animals eat. Other wise you aren’t a conservationist, crikey, you blokes don’t know shineola from boot black.
If this turns out to be ‘true’ then every state Fish and Game and the U.S. Federal Wildlife will be pleased because they have based literally trillions of tax dollars, tourist dollars, logging, mining and other laws, fees, licenses, permits, studies, forms and questionnaires have been expended in the name of science and protecting the “kings” animals is actually doing what it was expected to do.
It would be refreshing to see science actually applied and used as it should be.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 6:21pmThe rule stands:
If you want to ensure the survival of a species, make it food.
Chickens, Cows, and Pigs will never be in jeopardy of extinction. Why? Thanks to Capitalism, they’re raised and bred for food. For that matter, goats and sheep as well, for cheese and wool.
Starting with humans in the dark ages, Capitalism saves species every single time it’s employed.
Report Post »cicero1776
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 6:57pmI think I saw her on Worlds Dumbest Criminals!
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 7:07pm.
Report Post »I remember when the environmentalists were
worrying about the plight of the caribou in Alaska.
So they got rid of their natural enemy, the wolf.
Guess what? The caribou population went down.
Why? The wolves were eating the weak, sick and old animals.
Once they were allowed to breed, the herd became weaker, sicker.
Many died off.
So the wolves were re-introduced, and nature again did what it does best.
So, save the Earth, eat an environmentalist.
Dotado
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 7:16pmShe looks like your typical animal rights liberal bleeding heart. Am I missing something or are we not on the top of the food chain? The animal looks well taken care of just like most of the beef cattle in this country. He is meat for someone’s table, they all are unless they die of disease or accident and nothing gets the benefit of harvesting them. In the wild they live hard lives, die hard deaths. Here at least they have some ease to the normal life they would have had in the wild. I have no problem with these hunts any more than I have a problem with raising any meat animal for our consumption.
Report Post »Bluefish49
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 7:40pmHmmmm…..wonder what one of those long horned rascels would taste like on my smoker.
Report Post »Parnell3rd
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 11:16pmHigher than a Geogia Pine!
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 5:47amFeral? As in “feral cat”? REALLY?
Feral said, “Not in Texas. No.” (she did not want these animals to exist)
So, she is self-appointed dictator of where on earth they should and should not exist.
(also sounds like she wants to TAKE their animals and return them to some place SHE thinks they belong. Problem is, they are not protected there. They are hunted to extinction. Here they are BRED and PROTECTED and a LIMITED number are allowed to be hunted)
Well, Ms. Genius… without these ranchers it sounds like they would already be extinct.
Report Post »Why else would the ranchers feed and water the animals? Why would they pay for fence construction and maintenance? The answer? They would NOT.
So, without ranchers who BREED the animals, they wouldn’t exist for you to whine about.
So they raise 30 and kill 2. Sounds to me like we are 28 ahead !
Perhaps you should get on their side IF – and that is a REALLY BIG “IF” your true motive is to “preserve the species”. However, if your motive is self-gratification, if it is a justification for your own existence, if it is a justification for decades of mooching millions of taxpayer dollars to justify your decades of moochim millions of dollars in order to justify decades of mooching milliions of taxpayer dollars, in order to justify…
linda1010
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 7:04amCan you say “free market”?
Report Post »jaylew
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:23pmThat “Feral” woman is the kind and sort of person who would feed a pet dog or pet cat vegetables….and try to make a predominantly carnivorous species live as a certified “vegan”. As if their 6 foot intestinal system was geared for digesting wheat or carrots or barley. I am of the opinion that most of these type of people who advocate so ferociously for animals…..could care less about the dead infant carcasses on the partial birth abortion table. I love animals….and I have many many kinds and sorts in my house or outside living in enclosures like millionaires…i have box turtles that were run over by cars and I patched and repaired their broken shells with fiberglass cloth and nursed them back to life itself. But I also love animals because they are delicious. I really will never understand how some of these PETA and other animal rights people can utter with a straight and honest face…how they would prefer an animal species be extinct….than be raised in a humane fashion on a ranch in Texas. Perhaps they really do hate George W. Bush that much….and it’s Texas that really bothers them. As a person who grew up just outside Houston Texas…a mecca of oil production, NASA, a chemical and petrochemical wonder of the world….I wonder why and where this “Feral” woman was when Michael Jackson had his own backyard zoo? Oooops since it wasn’t in Texas…it must be okay. I think ******** actually hate Texas that much…I KNOW they hate human beings that much.
Report Post »jaylew
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:31pmapparently lib—–t—ards is censored here…..c’mon Blaze seriously….you ruined my post and the thought I put into it by pretending to be offended over the silly word l—ib—-tar—rd. C’mon Beck you say things far more offensive during your morning radio show…seriously you just sort of p-iss-ed me 0ff.
Report Post »TyrannyNoMore
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:13pmI watched this on 60 Minutes last night. On display for all to see, was a perfect example of what happens when one, brain dead activist gets an activist judge on their side. All logic is thrown out the window in the name of political correctness.
The numbers don’t lie. The animals in question were saved by greedy capitalists. Their numbers INCREASE every year, due to the same evil capitalists. These facts were all stipulated to, by all other witnesses interviewed in the segment that aired last night. The woman activist trying to shut all this down said, “I would rather see the animals go extinct, than see any of them shot.” WHAT??? Are you friggin kidding me? So, let me get this right. This lunatic would rather be known, for being solely responsible for the extinction of several species, rather than allowing their preservation, through the application of sound capitalist principles. To quote the bible: In the last days, good will be called evil and evil will be called good.
To 60 Minute’s credit, they were actually pretty even handed on this piece.
Report Post »Dan_o
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:26pmI’m not a hunter, but live in Texas. It’s common knowledge thinning the heard is healthy for a species. Otherwise, uncontrolled rise in competing populations cause starvation, infringement on others territory, over-running and endangering other species, etc.
Libs could care less about quality of life. They want to “take care of” wild-life the same way they “take care of” ghettos and poor people. Personally, I’d rather be shot.
Report Post »Bluefish49
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 6:07pmAgreed….her idiotic ideal is to send them all back to there native countries where between the corrupt game wardens and the poachers will have them extict within a year.
Report Post »another pucker
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 7:30pm@tyranny
We should remember her name and make sure our children do also so when these animal are extinct she gets full credit!
@dan
Report Post »It is also practice in hunting to try to ensure the survival of the fittest by allowing the weaker of the species to be taken this then ensures that with breeding the animal is bred with the strongest genes.
1TrueOne55
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 8:58pmThat is why extinction happens is that the population gets bigger than its environment/region can support. With targeted hunting this proves you can keep the animals alive and prosper, just the way God wanted it.
Just remember that she is part of the “Evolutionary” crowd of Animal Rights Activists, they cry out an agenda that actually saves the species but it is not them that is doing the saving and they are “T”’d off about the fact that managing herds with limited hunting is against their belief system. That is what happens when you kill off the natural predation when humanity justifies it for human survival.
Report Post »M 4 Colt
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 10:47pmWhen my father use to hunt during his tour of duty in Germany in the late 50′s, the only game the game warden would allow him to take were the sick and weak, that way only the fit and strong were allowed to bread. Doing it this way insured a strong jean pool and strong offspring, but bleeding heart liberals will never understand this.
Report Post »GoodStuff
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:12pmI’m moving to Texas.
Report Post »Taxpayer550
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:09pmPut some liberals out on the range. We’ll gladly hunt them instead!
Report Post »freethinking
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 6:04pmEver seen “Hunting For Bambi” ?
Report Post »thx1138v2
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 9:38pm@FreeThinking: I’ve been hunting for 45 years and I have yet to shoot a roll of celluloid film. Does this problem you have distinguishing between an animated cartoon film and real life present any serious problems in your daily life?
Report Post »Docrow
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:00pmHow about these city liberal people go fix their own messed up cities and leave us country boys and our country life alone!!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:53pmAround here, the city yuppies are flocking to the country, then complaining that the farms stink. There isn‘t a woods I used to hunt in as a child that doesn’t have a trendy home in the middle of it.
Report Post »Geo0248
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:57pmlet me get this straight. This “woman” is against killing an animal or two in an effort to preserve the species.[okay, okay, someboday makes a buck on it, big deal]
Report Post »She would rather see it go extinct than lose a few to hunting in an effort to gain hundreds or thousands?
Then how would she rationalize abortion doctors making a buck on exterminating an unborn human?
They hunt for the thrill of the kill, the doctors kill in the hunt of for making a buck.
THX-1138
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:52pm” I don’t think you create a life to shoot it.”
I wonder how she feels about Abortion “Rights”.
(These people are really hard to take sometimes.)
Report Post »GPS-Tech
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:05pmThe left is always hyppocritical.
Report Post »Fight for America82
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:12pmExactly, they’re just pathetic hypocrites that all need to get the hell out of the United States as West would say!! I’m getting so sick of these pieces of garbage butting into everyones lives! And whats with the feds!? More regulations? It’s time the people of this country stand up to the federal government and say enough is enough!! They’re trying to shut down a bunch of roads in the national forests around where I live, and I WONT ABIDE by their bs road laws anymore!! Right me a ticket it’s going in the trash!
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:30pmTypical non hunting lefty thinking with her estrogen…
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 8:07pmThere is no question how she feels about abortion right- and it‘s too bad her mother didn’t feel the same way and abort her. Or change to muslim cult and butcher her at birth for not being a male child.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:51pmOn the flip side, animal activists don’t see this as an acceptable form of animal conservation. They believe that the hunts are made too easy and that the animals belong in preserves in their natural habitat. Feral said:
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Mr Feral feel free to purchase some of these Animals to be repopulated back into their Natural Habitat.
Of Course you will need to hire people to protect your investment against Hunter and sickness. Och thats going to cost a lot with little chance of success. I guess you knew that, that‘s why it’s cheeper for you to just flap your gums and then get back on the Money Donation circuit.
Comeandtakeit
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:51pmRemember when the longhorn cattle almost went extinct, or the ranch chicken, or the farm hog??? Oh year that’s right, they’re not extinct. Because there is an incentive to having them breed and make more. The only reason there has been a strong resurgence of American Bison??? They’re hunted again. This idiot “Feral” has just caused the extinction of those three type of antelope because of her “court” action. Congratulations Liberal idiots everywhere.
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 12:38amI have confidence in those good ol’ Texas boys to get this overturned. Ms Feral kind of resembles a “feral hog” if you ask me….
Report Post »neiman1
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:48pmYou don’t create a life to hunt and kill it ??? I would love to know her position on embryonic tissue research.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:53pmPlease don’t do that, you’ll create a Brain Freeze
Report Post »eaglesview
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:46pmTypical liberal crap. Let them go extinct versus living on the ranches in Tx. Let’s just cut off our nose to spite our face. Dumba– !.
Report Post »drago
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:46pmWhat i dont want to see, is that buttass ugly face of yours lady…….
Report Post »armed-in-texas
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:45pmLou…Stay in the city….youre obviously clueless….
Report Post »If the federal law passes, I hope the endangered animals perish…
TyrannyNoMore
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:24pmIt did pass ! That was the bad news at the end of the segment. Now, it has to be repealed.
Report Post »paleoman
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:45pmNext hunting season down here is OWS (occupy wall street) starts Feb. 3 ends when they are exstint, not good to eat, very dirty & carry deases kind of like rats.
Report Post »mrsalvage2
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:44pmFeral is only Right in that Texas should not be the only Place where they thrive.
Some should be produced to be returned to their natural habitat.
if that is not possible, then it is clear that they are, technically extinct in the natural sense of the word. (No longer found in their natual habitat) Then they are merely property.
So where will we find them?
In a Zoo some place where they cannot populate much. Some place the Feral Woman never goes because she is Feral, with her thoughts which are completely Feral from Logic.
So, an advanced Zoo that does genetic culling for the sake of engineering a Herd or Herds is not acceptable?
Unless this Ranch has not attempted to grow a herd or pairs to be reintroduced, Feral has a point. True Conservation has to be reaching for that goal.
if the Ranch can prove that they are reaching for that Goal and will have subjects for reintroduction in a reasonable time relative to life/reproductive cycles, then leave them alone.
Report Post »thorkyl
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:01pmOnly one problem with this thinking…
The gooberment MUST stay out of it, let the game ranches do it on their own.
These ranches spend a fortune on breeding stock and care so that Big game hunters can hunt, without depleting the ones in the wild
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:41pmIf you want to preserve and then add to something : Give it Value and let people buy and sell it
Report Post »Listen_then_think
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:41pmThat animal rights activists “plan” is actually satans plan. If he can’t have it, or be top dog, or be happy, then everyone has to die and be miserable too. So therefore animal rights activists who would rather see the species disappear forever, are satans minions. And less importantly they are just plain stupid and lack any common sense.
Report Post »Powerslave
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 1:49amActually, it’s people like you who encourage this type of activity who are Satanic. There‘s no place for canned hunting in today’s civilized world and no place for those who condone it, either.
Report Post »jimster
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 2:40pmwe raise trout to fish for, we raise ducks to shoot, it is called sport and these animals would not exist if it were not for the hunters as they are the ones that make sure there is something to hunt
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:31pmRather see them go extinct? I just don’t understand.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:41pmThey’re Liberals. If you understood them, there would be something wrong with you.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:45pmWhat a relief! I am normal.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:49pmWonder if Feral has ever seen an animal killed and shredded from horn to hoof by lions or hyenas.
Report Post »Conkuur
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:05pmI’m with Seeker!
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:25pmI know I certainly would NOT want that Feral woman’s head as a trophy on my wall.
Report Post »caleejr
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:24pmto vegetarians: my food poops on your food.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:54pmAnd my food appreciates that.
Report Post »branchl
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:55pmThat needs to be a bumper sticker. That is awesome. I think i may just get me one. I am cooking up some red meat as we speak, ya
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:59pmOr maybe one for my side: “My Food Doesn’t Poop”
Report Post »downhillmike
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:51pmI guess that’s why it tastes like crap!
Report Post »downhillmike
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:53pmSo I guess that’s why your food tastes like poop.
Report Post »geomann
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 6:24pmYou can tell what an animal is supposed to eat by looking at it’s teeth. What kind of teeth do humans have?
Report Post »ShirouZhiwu
Posted on February 2, 2012 at 8:21pmI went vegetarian for a while, got fat and nearly got diabetes. I’ll stick to meat thank you.
Report Post »Compound
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:21pmLib‘s would find it just fine to hunt human fetus’s
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:19pmIs an animal rights person really named Feral?
Report Post »Red Bubba
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 6:03pmWe have a real problem with feral hogs down here in Texas, as you can see.
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 6:30pmyup – the feral hogs in Texas are a huge problem (just got my Stag 6.8 set up as my new hog rifle), and being that this ‘lady’, Ms Feral seems to have an affinity for preserving such beast … I would suggest she come waller around with them for a few months …she may even get a big hairy boy freind out of the deal …
Report Post »paleoman
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:16pmI kill deer & turkey for food each and every year. We don’t buy that doped up cow meat. Wild hog is pretty tasty too.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:55pmIt is funny that the very same Fish and Game has put an open season on feral hogs
Report Post »Chet Hempstead
Posted on January 31, 2012 at 6:45amWell, that brings up the one question I had that really was never answered in the show. I don’t believe in killing anything that you’re not going to eat, so I want to know – does a scimitar horned oryx taste good?
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:11pmTo bad we cant get Tasers and hunt animal rights activist.Guess next we will have to print ballots in Llama and Spotted owl so they can vote along beside the Illegal Aliens.
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:17pmWhat the idiot, city dwelling liberals fail to realize, is that hunters and fisherman are the best advocates for game animals on the planet, because they have a vested interest in seeing that these animals are always around, and are increased in numbers as much as possible. The animal rights activists, would rather see a species destroyed, than have any other group succeed in a task that they fail at miserably. For a group that supposedly cares so much, letting their seething jealousy unhinge them is both dishonest and hypocritical.
Report Post »let us prey
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:27pmHere are the numbers, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the International Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies, and other public sources:
** $746 million — Annual amount of money spent by hunters in the United States on licenses and public land access fees alone. Sportsmen’s licensing revenues account for more than half of all funding for state natural resource agenciesHere are the numbers, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the International Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies, and other public sources:
** $746 million — Annual amount of money spent by hunters in the United States on licenses and public land access fees alone. Sportsmen’s licensing revenues account for more than half of all funding for state natural resource agencies
** $300 million — Additional monies contributed to wildlife conservation every year by the more than 10,000 private hunting-advocate organizations, like the National Wild Turkey Federation, Ducks Unlimited, and the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation
** $4.2 billion — Amount of money sportsmen have contributed to conservation through a 10% federal excise taxes on firearms, ammunition, and
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:37pmI would believe that a majority of citiots think that food comes from grocery stores. They would rather that these animals spend a life being cooped up in a cage and dying of a disease with no freedom at all.
Report Post »DrFrost
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:41pm@TXPILOT
These people have never been for managed animal conservation. They don’t want hunting done by humans in any form for any reason.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:57pm@DrFrost
We‘ll have to ask ’em again about two weeks after the EMP attacks…
Report Post »TyrannyNoMore
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 5:16pm@ TX pilot…..You nailed it exactly !
Report Post »LouC57
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:08pmMy spousal unit says the same thing about hunting…I don’t mind hunting, however, taking the “big trophy” animal out of the gene pool has NEVER made a lick of sense to me. And it never will.
Remember this mantra: never hunt that animal which mates for life, lest a pox fall upon thy house.
Report Post »paleoman
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:21pmA big trophy animal has been sowing his genes for 4 or more years before he is taken out, its not Bambi.
Report Post »Gary S
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:25pm—well — guess foolowing your mantra, OWS must be on the target list.
Report Post »freethought
Posted on January 30, 2012 at 4:49pmIt sounds non-sensical, but taking Elephant hunting in Africa as an example: Adult bull elephants that are past their prime for breeding purposes are often agressive , especiallly toward younger bulls. They drive younger bulls away from breeding groups of females while at the same time not contributing to the re-population of the species.
This can result in a dip in population. Old, past-prime or non-breeding bulls are often the largest and carry the most ivory (not always) and they are specifically targeted for that combination of reasons. The cost of an elephant hunt is in the tens of thousands of dollars, the permits are few and well controlled and the meat can provide protien for a local villiage for over a month. From hide to meat to bones nothing is wasted. The proceeds also contribute to the pay of local rangers who deal daily with the poaching problem.
An ethical hunter will pass up a 3 year old, 10 point white tail in favor of a 5 yr old eight point. It is still a trophy. You are looking for a mature representation of the species, not necessarily the heaviets ivory or most ‘points’.
Just my two cents.
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